Western chip sanctions guaranteed to fail as thousands of top Chinese scientists return home
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- China is now a scientific superpower, and now leads the United States and the European Union in several key measures of scholarship and research output.
Much of China's top research and scientific talent are also headed back to China, and bringing with them deep, specialized industry knowledge in dozens of fields.
Western export curbs on critical technologies and tools for semiconductor manufacturing have ironically chased much top Chinese talent away from Silicon Valley and Europe, back to China. By closing off customers for their products, they concluded they are better off, instead, returning to China and doing business here, with Chinese partners and Chinese customers.
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You just got to laugh at the stupidity of American politicians.
Lying on a rail track to stop a train. NICE.
Information is widely shared quickly at the speed of light, whatever sanctions simply don't work in this digital era! 😊
Believe me, even back in the later 70's, graduate students I had met from Taiwan and Hong Kong were more than ready to return to China upon receiving their advanced degrees. It can only intensify when the present US imperious behavior. They have also seen how Japan were put to the sword in the late 70's.
The track of "intellectual/knowledge capital," representing the center of gravity of global economy, eastwards had been given expression early in the 2000's be a LSE professor Danny Quah, now at Nanyang Tech University in S'pore. It wasn't heeded by the West I suppose.
Marco Rubio is crying.
Free speech, free market, human rights, democracy. People all over the world are now sceptic and making fun of these words thanks to the U.S.
Chinese elites had been laughing at these concepts back in 1900s when the so call "democracies" robbing China... not a bit bought into that bull crap.
The American Empire has never believed in any of those things. The American Fascist Superstate is the real power.
it would seem that us is land of talk only
The US have singlehandedly turned the word "communism" and/or "socialism" into the more desirable & beautiful one over democracy !🤣
😂 Those words are now better associated with any other country than the u$a ?!😅
Salute to Chinese talent and brain power. We are proud of you. China Powering ASIA and the WORLD 🌍 💪💪💪👏👏👏
Heaven help the world.
Funny that nobody in Asia thinks that way of China.
@@yo2trader539 历史与地缘政治上的天然恐惧，没有任何国家希望自己周边出现一个强国。除非他已经强大起来。在中国有句古话：成为强者的路上总是充满坎坷.不会一帆风水的，
Remember when back then Japan was rising super quick as a economical and technological powerhouse and the US perceived it as a threat to its dominance? When Japan was (and still is) a close strategical partner, people in the US started boycotting Japanese cars and in some cases going as far as committing hate crimes (see Vincent Chin) and then officially the US started a trade war against Japan, an ally power, to curb its growth. The US is all about free trade until when it doesn't suit America, that's when boycott and tariffs sweep in.
and the dumb and dumber us ally japan was led like a docile lamb to the slaughter
@@TeohLieongChuanBanzai!? Banzai. They are testing the water to remilitarize again, away from the Americans?!
The Americans don't consider Japan an ally: they consider it a vassal.
It's up to the Japanese to become independent or remain a vassal. And I don't see any signs of independence. Good luck.
“Uncle Sanctions” is encouraging Motherland, China to remain disciplined, diligent, decisive & determined to prepared for the u$a’s sanctions & prepared for more dangerous storms coming ahead from the u$a.
BLESS MOTHERLAND, CHINA 10,000 YEARS & TEAM MOTHERLAND, CHINA ALL THE WAY AND BEYOND FOREVER!👍🙏🇨🇳🙂🐲🐼☯️☮️🌏‼️
The rest of their victims are wayting besides China to their move.
US leads in Lies on Democracy and Liberty. Soon we'll be liberated.
"uncle sanctions" 😂
love China
Every thing that is done to America will come back to you in spades.
To be brutally honest, China is not lacking of talents at home, their educational system produces 5 million STEM graduates a year, the competition is fierce. And the overseas returnees are no longer favoured like before, they still have to compete with graduates at home. The Chinese tech companies select the best of the best.
Before China had no advanced labs and high tech companies. So if you have an advanced degree you have to stay in the west to apply your knowledge. Not anymore.
The American dream is going down the toilet.
A nation must build its own country, not build another country that actually wants to destroy their nation-state..
It's not only about well equipped labs, it's about life environment and infrastructure too. Today to live in the SF bay area, to raise kids there - is just pure insanity
moreover most of these Chinese scientists have been treated very badly in the West for the past 10 years.
Those who return to China are never going to go to the West again.
US chips, software and aeroplanes were so high tech and advance! yea because they were made by Chinese.
companies will go where the market is! If the US gov doesn't allow people to sell to China, founders will move to China and create business there. Fatal mistake for Silicon Valley.
they won't do that because they will have their US citizenship revoked.
Most of them are chinese anyway.
Very dum azz mistake.
As Spengler (David P. Goldman) pointed out in Asia Times many years ago, trying to maintain dominance over China via blocking maneuvers (e.g. cutting off access to knowledge/intellectual property, blocking access to microchips and natural resources, sanctions, etc.) is a losing strategy that will never be successful. As anyone who has completed against the Chinese in academia or business knows very well, the Chinese as a people are extremely intelligent, resourceful, hard working and entrepreneurial. They will figure out a way around any impediment that the US may place in their way.
Intel and AMD can no longer make cutting edge microchips anymore (TSMC of Taiwan has to make the most advanced microchips for them.); Boeing can no longer produce top quality aircraft anymore (the MBAs with spreadsheets have wrecked the place) and the US has to rely upon China for pharmaceutical manufacturing.
This ridiculous situation is unsustainable. The United States is slowly imploding in real time before our eyes. A war over Taiwan would be the Coup de grace.
no war,
@@LokeKS
Tell that to Biden, his cabal of neocons and the Deep State. They are all trying to provoke wars: First Ukraine, then Palestine/Israel and next Taiwan.
China has risen because the west going through a turmoil. We are hijacked by stupid ideologies. But the west is waking up.
I agree. It's increasingly likely USA will try to "Push Chinas' buttons" to provoke a war that USA "needs" to Reset" their issues?
China? May well simply not respond, but instead play "The long game".... Defend only where required and let the US actions be exposed.
The recent reports of cutting edge microchips from the Chinese mainland suggest that Taiwan may not be be as important strategically as it once was?
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The danger?
Just as the US needs a "Statesman" (/"Person") in charge, they seem to have no such person available......
💯✅️💯✅️
To be brutally honest, China is not lacking of talents at home, their educational system produces 5 million STEM graduates a year, the competition is fierce. And the overseas returnees are no longer favoured like before, they still have to compete with graduates at home. The Chinese tech companies select the best of the best.
Most times, those that went overseas to study are those that couldn't make the grade to the local universities.😅
@@tkh2944 There are those but also those from China's top universities who went to the West for a postgraduate degree or PhDs.
There is a huge difference between grads and experienced scientists and engineers who have been working in the their field for decades.
@@felixsu375 You need grads before you can have your scientists & engineers. You need seeds before you can even talk of the harvest ! 😜
@@felixsu375 Many of the experienced scientists are either Chinese or foreign nationals. And they don't even necessary have to be Chinese nationals. Immigrants are composed of 45% silicon work force. And many of them are first or second generation immigrants. China build spaceships. And they didn't have anyone in the field before.
The fundamental issue is that the people making US policy are stuck in a cold war mindset and unwilling - or possibly incapable - of realizing that the world has changed. They also seem to have this assumption that the world is strictly zero sum and that hence for the US to do well everyone else has to suffer.
True, the future globalization will never feel like being hijacked by the largest trade partner who took more than a year just to agree on buying more agriculture😊 so the gaps in deficit will get reduced. Win win approach wouldn't it
That is the mindset of Joe Biden. He thinks that US is as powerful as during the cold war when countries like China were dirt poor. Biden (and those advising him) actually believed that Russia was at the same level of development as the 90s. That is why he believed that Russia economy would collapse like a deck of cards when maximum sanctions were applied.
This is in fact what US foreign policy is all about. There is some basis in it. But they have made serious mistakes.
Look, this cold war has had some elements to do with petrodollar cancellation. Funny when some would conveniently skip it, that it's okey for Moslem to politicize but not the dollar central bank's defense nor 100% tariffs for stabilizing the money supply.
That is why SMO was started and will be taking place for a while to keep them preoccupied and hold fast to the cold war mentality. They have to spend resources on military needs and goals with no end in sight.
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History moves forward. What was once the American dream is now the Chinese dream.
Unlike the Americans, the Chinese are more pragmatic and don't dream but work hard and smart and make things happen much faster than the US led collective West
@@yaoliang1580 There is no such thing as a Chinese dream.
@@mischa1880 yes, bcos the Chinese are pragmatic and results oriented.
@@mischa1880Chinese destiny of the Dragon
Haven't you seen the move Horrible Bosses? That was made 10 years ago.
You just got to laugh at the stupidity of American politicians.
But it is the US plebs that vote same smart well paid politicians in year after year like good little indoctrinated dufuses.
History repeats but fools are still being fools, that's what they are.
They are Racists, as a collective, what can one say?!
They are Boomers who haven't adapted to present day conditions.
they are not so stupid. their salaries and positions depend on satifying investors. the class of investors may think they can hold back the tide, for awhile, and that is good enough.
mind you, published politicians appear to be genuinely stupid
The comparison between the US and the Chinese economic and technology advancement is like comparing the American railroads and the Chinese high speed trains ….
You just got to laugh at the stupidity of American politicians.
Sharings without taking side. Honest and brutal at times. I respect your sincerity. ❤
Today's podcast is excellent and brutally honest.. stupid America.
It's because they have a very old president and one very dum. They should have kept Obama and Bush. I miss them.
@@univera1111Obama is running the show he is the puppetmaster, Biden is the puppet.
@@univera1111 your insane
@@susuileamura
Compare the two of them to the alternatives today. Barack Obama was an excellent convincing liar. He was polished, articulate, and lazy.
George W. Bush by comparison was an alcoholic and an idiot, although it's hard to tell which came first.😅
Hard work is rewarded in China.
Even the Chinese Communist Party is a true meritocracy. Look at state industries with the best employees being promoted regardless of sex. There was an interesting video by Lee Barrett about a woman who works for Shanghai street cleaning unit. She showed how good she was and now manages a large team, including her husband.
@@davidlazarus67 China is a country where academic achievements and hard work is highly valued regardless gender and ethnicity, and Mao promoted women's rights with the famous saying, ''women hold up half of the sky''. There is true equality for women in the Chinese society and it is easily observed when you visit China.
@@davidlazarus67 they suppose to have female equal rights and same pay sex salary, and worst no one is allowed to vote cause it don't exist in china.
@@Faye_Liu I fully expect that to be the case. So many examples of women rising to the top of their ranks. Women engineers and women scientists. The recent example of an 80 year old woman scientist developing a memory storage chip that uses far less energy and actually learns. It is a leading technology for AI and is being utilised in various areas.
@@davidlazarus67 Amazing story, thanks for sharing ; )
Your videos are such a massive dose of relief for me from the relentless barrage of mind control propaganda spewing out from American news outlets.
The U.S. and EU are very adept at propaganda and right now they are demonizing Russia and China at full blast.
Hang in there -- even a lot U.S. and EU citizens don't believe the nonsense coming from our governments and media. I don't believe a word of it.😂
America, not the greatest country in the world. Wake up Americans!!
The American dream became the American nightmare - the dream to desire today is the Chinese dream !😊
Wake up Americans !!
still the greatest country in the world for talking only
Tens of Thousands Indians are said to be waiting for US embassy visa approval and waiting time can take as long as 6 months to a year.
America, the one and only *_great collection of super-duper hubris_* !
Hope the majority of the Americans will never wake up and keep dreaming so that they will decline faster.
Any immigrants, including some native born Americans, whom have been raised, educated (especially the highly educated) with excellent analytical skills realized that Western Democracy is a pseudo democracy; democracy only please the mass to make themselves feel better of outcome , as we all know, none of the choice can rarely help improves the lives of regular people; often , they made it worse for regular citizens. The real benefit of these pseudo democracy always help improve the lives of the ultra rich and politicians.
It is the realization of the pseudo democracy that people are looking for better alternatives elsewhere!
The true native born Americans know how terrible "democracy" treated them.
democracy don't exist buddy, it's only in western media matrix world that everyday western people believe in, voting this and that, and see nothing changing in last 75yrs, but still hoping and forcing themselves to believe it is true.
Well said
i recommend actual democracy, but that appears too hard for homo sapiens
Basic education in the US have not seen any updates and improvements in the first place
China is not a country is a civilization that has existed for thousands of year. And still exist
You call that existing? They just outbreed their deathrate.
It is still a country.
@@CrucesNomad1You are so idiotic.😂😂😂Don't you go and investigate why the population of the United States has stagnated for so many years? There are so many people immigrating to the United States every year from all over the world, and Your government's keep shouting all day about so many illegal immigrants. It is said that the number of illegal entries every day remains high. Where have all those extra people gone? Could it be that the population born plus the immigrant population is not more than the number of deaths? (Don't mention the emigrant population, because you claim that you are the country with the least emigrant population in the world.)
Low trust societies are not exactly civilized.
@@CrucesNomad1 We managed to stay united under one culture, one language, one government for 2000 years. Europe is still a bag of potatoes today.
Your altitude is exactly the reason why these scientists had to come back.
Malaysia just announced its decision to join BRICS, what does Singapore do ?
It is plain and clear. SG condemned RU and sanctioned them. SG welcomes AUKUS unclear SAABs in its naval base. SG hosts YOU ESS naval vessels - Despite being a signatory to the ASEAN Zone of Peace and Neutrality (ZOPFAN treaty) and UNCLEAR FREE Zone and a key member of ASEAN. Not surprisingly, this causes greater tensions in Asia and it is a catalyst for disunity in ASEAN. SG just a few days ago, signed the joint communique in the YOU CRANE Peace shambolic conference in which Russia is not even invited. There is no question at all that SG is no longer neutral. It has picked a side even though ASEAN is supposedly neutral. Perhaps it is drunk on the billions of USD in FDI from the YOU ESS. Too much to lose.
@@bhtansg Singapore military is very US biased, in terms of weapons, equipment as well as training for it's officers and soldiers. 'Decoupling' with US will leave them high and dry.
@@bhtansgIt's too tiny and they have developed a dependency on us & 1sraeli weaponry. You do know us weaponry have a kill switch to prevent use against their friends ?😅
SG plays both ways...wise position
What would happen if Malaysia's application gets turned down? Loss of face?
It is very interesting to see the plot at 1:31, the Americans are dominant in publishing papers in bio-science, I guess it is funded by big pharmacies, does USA has the world most healthy populations? Nope, the opposite. Chinese has a saying: use the money on the blade of the knife, I guess Americans is using the money on the decorations of the knife, while the knife itself is very dull.
Over 10,000 semiconductor engineers left TSMC to join SMIC in recent years.
USA is now FUBAR.
Isn't that overcapacity 😅😅 yellen grandma !!
The Chinese chip fabs are now on a par with TSMC’s best generation of chips, and have a hole class of optical computers that are leagues ahead of anything in the west.
@@davidlazarus67 Do they know how to spell? You misspelled "hole" which should be "whole" there's 2 different spellings. Is that Chinese scholarship? LOL
@@butmunchasshow about you take the time to dispute the facts he put out ?
That could easily be a typo or even his spell check changing the word on him
@@butmunchass 1 typ0, s0 wat, chill out man! i got mie degree with amerika scholarshit. u beter learn 中文.
I think more Chinese scientists and engineers that work in the semiconductor industries in the West should return to China to develop China's semiconductor industry.
Why help countries that don't like China or Chinese people in general. Working for Western companies has limitations, you have something called the glass ceiling. There is no such a thing in China for Chinese people working for Chinese companies and corporations.
all traitors
I am very familiar with OPC. For many years, it involves lots of mathematics. But, recently, machine learning (ML) makes it far easier. When ML is used, all previous inventions around OPC are not as important. With the strength in AI, China poises a stronger position to develop more advanced OPC for its semiconductor lithography process without needing reinventing the wheels.
do you any article to read on it?
Kevin's subcribers at 30.8k just a few days ago. Today is already at 35.2K.👍
And YT will remove a couple of thousand here and there. It should not matter, though. What is seen cannot be unseen.
Your content is awesome..
Please keep up your posts!! 🙏
What people don't understand is that the rich, the resourceful, the talented and the able they won't be tied down to any governments. They come to you when they feel they are welcomed and valued
Word.
If I were still in the force, I would have moved to China, too, and escape united slums of America.
Yes, the US and EU are mostly focusing on DEI, affirmative action, ESG, no bail, women’s sports, LGBT instead of meritocracy and scientific progress.
Yes. The west is definitely in a vicious cycle. I really don’t see any way out now.
Sodem and Gomorrah is happening to them. Sorry this is what you get for top sin.
Chinese invented most of technologies in Silicon valley.Think about it. How many STEM graduate in the US other than Chiense? Indian can do only software.
At the beginning of the chip making, the pioneers are 40% of Chinese scientists, engineers and university professors mainly from UC Berkeley and Stanford around Silicon Valley. You are right, there were a lot of Indian graduate students in Berkeley but all in software...
Do software and bragging.
China has the abundance of talented STEM workers and graduates which facilitates growth in the innovation of high tech industry.
American exceptionalism is over. But they are intent on military confrontation rather then work together.
by the way Kev.. even the Indians are leaving the US and going to Shenzhen.. judging by the amount of Curry house proliferating in that city..
Indians goes to the place with wealth. If the Indians are moving you guys are deep down n gutter in Silicon Valley!!
Wow great news , hope India learns from China 🎉🎉
They better be washing their hands and not serving some house special Bumbay Aloo!
Thanks for the info
these are the smart ones, can't beat them join them, i guess they can take what they learn to india.
In the U.S. we should continue playing music and dancing like some on the Titanic did.
Certainly not seeing much advancement in consumer computing products.
They are definitely rearranging deck chairs as the ship is sinking.
😅🤣🤣🤣
Too be fair some people probably figured if the ship was going to sink there was nothing they could do about it
@@DW-op7ly That’s possible, but any rational person will try and mitigate the impact on them. They may find alternative employment or become a whistleblower.
The question should ask if a career chinese software engineer in flordia wants to buy a house but can not because of a discriminate law against an H1b visa. And could not get us green card. Would that talent stay in the US, move to California, or go back to China?
There is something far worse than not being able to buy a house. You risk getting accused of a crime even without evidence.
It is sure an eye-opener to see a lot of top scientists moving to China to do their work because that is where the opportunity is. Wow, who would have predicted it.
Not Biden, or Trump or any idiot in the White House before that.
Racist ppl in the west don’t value Asian people’s talent or contributions either, they only see the Chinese Americans as a small cog in their machine. They don’t see the fact that it’s these cogs that’s making the machine run smoothly.
@@thinkingtoomuch7974everyone predicted it but they didn't listen. Any child knew this would happen. Well I don't give a F. I'm on the receiving end I need a Chinese car, a Chinese wife and a Chinese phone.
An even greater "Clash of Civilizations" in the thesis by Samual p Huntinton is occuring again right before our eyes. The "War on Terror" where Western civilization battled the Islamic Civilization and which was won by the West using weapons of war can never be replicated against the PRC (China) in so far as the battle for ascencion to be the World Superpower in military, economy, ideologies or religion etc are concerned.
The only thing sustaining the Western civilization in these battles is the immense wealth accumulated over the centuries thru various means (monetary, debts, robbing and manipulating resources, emigration of human capital expertise, industrial might etc) are now dwindling and shrinking rapidly thru even more wars created and more debts incurred and probably would Bankrupt the Western World in about another decade.
Its a slow and agonizing transition unless the Western World wake up, change course, promote economic and world trade, compete without sanctions and arbitrary laws and rules etc to survive and continue thriving thru the 21st Century for its people and society.
WESTERN “CIVILISATION” IS AN OXYMORON! Western governments prey on other nations and people to destroy, invade and plunder their resources to finance their development and “civilisation”! They haven’t got over their barbaric behaviour even in the 21st Century! Africa has been a victim of barbaric Western plunderers for centuries! Finally they are waking up! US proxy war in Ukraine against Russia is about invading and plundering the rich resources of Russia!
Back to its roots
Blood is thicker than water
True patriots
It wasn’t always like that here in the United States. The past several years, many Asian Americans were scapegoated, assaulted, insulted etc. and so generally have felt unwelcome.
@@albertkuan596
Sinophobia , white Supremacist
Well and it all about loyalty, this why banning china is pointless because any technology Taiwan has excess to mainland will always get it with ease , half of the whole island is loyal to mainland for a starter, Taiwan is literally the Chinas Trojan horse 🤷♂️🤔
@@nathanolson3135 You forgot the ethnic Chinese in SE Asia.
@@nathanolson3135excellent point... When the west demonises the Chinese ethnicity, those in Taiwan won't like it and will identify with their fellow ethnic Chinese.... The western politicians are absolute fools, including many of the populations in Europe, they are not blameless either.
Obama hit China's solar panel with a 240 percent tariffs in 2012 . Today China supply over 80 percent of the world's solar panel and many US solar panel manufacturers were shut down due to losses and protectionism.
These updates are welcomed...Amazing 🎉
It’s the raven and the hawk again. The raven American sits on the eagle Chinese back and pecks on the eagle’s neck. The eagle doesnt waste time by responding or fight the raven. It just climb higher and the raven fades away out of breath
Know yourself and understand your enemy
If you want to know how well these Western politicians are performing with their constant "talk shows", look no further than the Comedian in Ukraine.
Relatively new subscriber here, I really appreciate your reporting. China is fascinating in many ways. As a remote worker I've always had the idea of trying to live and work there, but seeing many of the propaganda coming from the west its hard to tell whats what. I may have to just go see for myself.
Seeing is believing
Fascinating and positive news.
Just imagine...if they tried a collaborative approach...true they must swallow their pride and change their world view...you know what....after thinking about it..I think it would be impossible....due to their pride...8(
It’s such a shame, America and Europe had a great collaboration with China. China done the manufacturing of western designed hardware, now with these crazy tariffs and isolationist politics, China has said OK, we will develop designs and manufacture them on the equipment we have so successfully created. We will also work with the BRICs nations and the non-aligned and make a World that doesn’t need the West. It’s going to be a very painful lesson for the Old World when they realise we cannot compete with Eastern infrastructure. (And by the Old World, I mean Western politicians because so many citizens can see it and cannot get their voices heard).
More like arrogance, hubris and thinly veiled racism, things the West truly excels at.
Do you want your next generation to be famous on YT or Tik Tok or whatever….’I can’t breathe!’ or go out in steel helmet and bullet proof vest? Or bashed up just because of your skin colour?
The data presented by the economist is misleading. It is counting the home nation of the university publishing the paper. It is not counting home nation of the scientist who are publishing their work. I can tell this mistake by looking at molecular biology and biology&biochemistry. Chinese citizens are the predominant scientist in this field within the US. So the US is only leading, because the economist is not counting the origins of the authors on the paper and likely that the paper is born from a collaboration of several labs in several universities. The lead lab is often in the US, but the other labs in the collaboration are often from China.
Scientists have their integrity. Otherwise, they would not have made this far. When a person is trained in US, he/she is loyal to his/her employer with all intellectual properties. There might be a few cases of stealing technologies. But, they are not the norm. The reason that many Chinese scientists return to China is because of opportunities. US's sanction against China creates tremendous opportunities in China which previously had no reason to exist, (why developed technologies which you can buy?).
I would imagine there is racism and the fact these Chinese nationals are seen as a spies in western countries that factor into the equation as well
The anti China & the RACISM rhetoric has got outta hand & increased hate crimes towards Chinese or ASIAN with oriental looking face..regardless if they’re Americans born Chinese of several generations .. being targeted as SPIES or selling Technology data/secrets... you CANNOT blame them going where they are wanted... American Companies not hiring them in the name of National Security.. what choice do they have apart from ‘returning’ back to China..
U 5 of A is going to fall further behind in TECHNOLOGY & other important Sectors..
Reap what you’re sowing.... gonna get a lot worse IMO..🤔
Hey at least you’ve still got the KARDASHIAN’S... the WOKE, Gender Fluid& PRO-NOUNS... etc 😉
i am assuming you are chinese american
Wholesale discriminations against ethnic Chinese scientists is a major factor - why work for any company that is suspicious of you!
@@AllMySoaps4040 it is becomming very risky , some of them are being prosecuted
and most are looked at with deep suspicion
In the last three companies I worked (before retiring) all top scientists and researchers were Chinese.These companies were developing software for imagining.Imagine if thousands of Chinese scientists and engineers who are working overseas went back to China.They could boost China’s tech industry.
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Glad to hear that Chinese scientists are coming back to China. The tide has turned.
The Chinese scientists better be returning back home or else they will face even more discrimination.
Overseas chinese though, 华侨 架橋, they’ll have it even worse if things escalate.
The way america is heading is gonna surprise no one. It is a one way street down the abyssssss. Sayonara
President putin tells President Xi if they bre💥akup Chi🐲na, Rus🐻sa is next.
President Xi also tells President Putin, if Ru🐻ssa bre💥akup, Chi🐲na is next.
So why not we work together.
Clearly the only way.
China and Russia face the same fate from the west they better work together ,here comes "No limit relationship"
Imposing sanctions will only alienate you further
The incredible thing is if I make a comment on western tech channels about these advances they simply don’t believe it.
Because the western governments have turned most of their people into ostriches ? Can only *_hear_* their politicians self serving agendas & narratives but can't see themselves.😅
Worse, you are attacked relentlessly. So rude. You can't even state facts. Happy to have you here!
At the end of the Qing Dynasty, the Chinese were unwilling to believe that other countries had more advanced technology. More than a dozen countries invaded China.
@@davidbosak7503 Worst, your messages will *_be disappeared_*_ !_
Western media lies are so powerful and widespread. It will be when it's too late to turn the situation around that recognition of reality comes. Which in a way is a good thing for those outside the small yard.
Any serious guy in china or even a serious government can see this as an opportunity
Don't worry, millions of Indian scientists will go to USA, for example the Boeing
With a fake degree and many ended up as taxi drivers. Many in NY city.
@@hengongchua6250 What is wrong with hiring taxi drivers to design airplanes ?
@@verypleasantguy Nothing really... transportation is transportation..
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A matter of time the USA regime finds fault with India and Indians IF India develops like China! That also IF the Banana Republic of America has not collapsed!
"people who invented it can go to an airport" should be an economic term 😂
Fabulous information! Thank you and God Bless China.
Why are there more chinese talents leaving for China than Indian talents leaving for India?
That has been the case for a longtime now
Chinese use to dominate Silicon Valley
Now the Indians have the numbers
but the China is where the latest tech is these days
Same can’t be said for India in most parts
Chinese come back for the safety and cleanliness of China. Indians escape India for the relatively cleaner and safer America.
Ask Palki ?
Really？I see Indians in every countries but not sure they are talents or not.
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Spot on Kevin.
The lament would be appropriate if West Europeans had the first claim to intelligence. India and China got left behind because they were shackled by rigid socio-political structures. Not because they were dumb. Indians easily win spelling bee competition, besting the native speakers by mastering a foreign tongue. They run many US corporations and have moved into politically powerful positions. The Chinese win maths competitions with ease and are the bosses in tech manufacturers. AMD & Nvidia to name some. The century of subjugation is gone and they will not let the same mistake happen twice. So don't feel so bad about the balance being corrected. A world with a powerful China and resurgent India is a better world. Kinder, progressive and more peaceful
The US government has been behaving everything they said they are against, I.e., freedom of trade, market capitalism, etc…
How does the wheel spin? For so many years, the Americans took all the brains and geniuses from almost every country in the world, whether it was through scholarships or the offer of good salary and conditions, And the time has come for other countries to do the same especially the Chinese who are returning to their homeland.
Someone is making 1950s cowboy movies while the audience demands matrix revamped edition
Those politicians who largely failed STEM courses miserably are happily making laws and policies regarding national STEM fields.
Now you get answers.
These Chinese scientists who are leaving silicon valley they are the jewels of the industry. They are talented, meritorious. Of course they don't want to play along the dirty games that our Washington politicians are playing. Washington's career politicians ... one thing for sure they don't have and that is Merit.
That Chinese students should have gone to U.S. universities to take advantage of them should come as no surprise seeing as to HOW many U.S. institutions such as hospitals, railways, anti-slavery schemes, and schools including UNIVERSITIES like Yale and Harvard were founded or have benefited from the American proceeds gleaned from U.S. merchants' participation in the opium trade in China.
Eminently respected and wealthy U.S. Americans like Warren Delano Jr., grand daddy of U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt dealt in the opium trade and amassed huge fortunes, as well as John Jacob Astor a smuggler on the drug who became the U.S. first multi-millionaire, Thomas Handasyd Perkins uncle of John Murray Forbes of the Forbes Family who also dealt in the opium trade.
So, one may say that the Chinese were getting a bit of the repayment back by being able to attend U.S. schools and universities. Karma, perhaps?
1:40 Surprised to see the big gap in Space Science papers between China and the west. Base on actual progress in space programs China seems to be way ahead, instead of way behind as shown in the chart.
My guess would be China scientists are not publishing their findings since they are excluded from the International Space Program anyway, but instead focus on actually doing the stuff to deliver.
Similarly I'm surprised to see the gaps in medical and biotech, which is also a key investment area in China. Maybe the system in China and the West are not as integrated, so that the cross reference of research papers are not as high as in IT related fields.
The real reason is that in the field of space science, it was previously Chinese state-owned enterprises that were doing this work, and they tend to publish papers in Chinese rather than in English. As for medicine, Chinese researchers actually prefer to publish papers in English, but Chinese medical research is indeed very backward, so there are not enough high-quality papers.
Something similar happened 100 years ago. Then the movie business was starting in the US, tech companies created barriers to new movie companies. So what they did was to move to California where they would be independent of New York (where technology was at the time). This is how Hollywood was started.
Specifically the New York media bosses tried to lock out upstarts including some Jewish talents... Who moved to Hollywood. How many movies made in the 20th century in New York vs Hollywood? TV shows?
The US theory is that Chinese can only copy. They speak racism as some sort of science discovery🤣🤣
USA was designed as a racist state from day one. Mexico was founded on a genocide. Canada was neither but copied these traits from its bad neighbours in 1860s-90s. By 1920s it was racist and it's scientists were writing racist "studies" just like USA.
are we talkin about China or Chinese , because these two are different ?
"If China willing to pay, then someone will supply it."
Tell that to Jensen Huang of NVidia. LOL!
There is another angle. Rarely heard that talents of Japanese Americans or Indian Americans eager to move back to work in Japan or India
I am a chinese phd candidate majoring in robotics studying in the US, graduating next year. It is extremely difficult for me to get an acceptable job here in the US, I am not talking about super high-paid job, but just a relatively acceptable job for an average STEM phD, the opportunities are extremely scarce and I feel like the US government doesn't want us here. There are way more opportunities in china for the same positions now. The threshold and challenge for us getting a visa and greencard is going up every single year, the US is pushing us back to China, if you american guys wonder why your country is losing in technology, blame your government who refuses to give a visa or greencard to the foreign phds while letting those illegal immigrants pouring into your country at the same time. Now for the same STEM phd position, the payment from China is getting closer and closer to the US while the living cost is probably 1/4 or 1/5 of the US, thus making more and more chinese phds chose to go back to China.
A lot of U.S. citizens don't care for what our government is doing either but we have a corrupt oligarchy and our so-called democracy is a facade. As an American, I see "our" government as the main threat to peace and development in the world. Very impressed by the rise of China in science and technology. Especially enjoying the Chinese space program after they were snubbed by the U.S. Congress and banned from the ISS in 2011. Good luck in your career.
watching from Singapore, returning to motherland and contributing to the ecenomy will be the wise, the long term gain will be huge....good luck
Hope that after you graduate, you will have seriously decided whether to stay or go back to your ancestral homeland. If you take the second option, I hope that you will also have a command of putonghua (common language mandarin) which will make your application as well as life a whole lot smoother, easier and most certainly, enjoyable. Whichever the case, wishing you all the very best in your endeavors and future.
the fact is China is able to produce 7nm chips now and China is working on 5nm to improve efficiency rate.
I think the Huawei Pura 70 is already using 5nm chips. The upcoming Huawei mate 70 will definitely be.
And chiplet, analog, photon, quantum, spintronics tech all matter more than transistor size.
Antichina propaganda has flamed racial discrimination against Chinese Americans, hence this is another factor that pushed many of them to go to China for career growth (bamboo ceiling was another factor)
It is not just Chinese engineers and scientists going to China.
Brain drain!
As the US and Europe fall into austere economic times, many jobs will be lost and crime will soar. On top of a recession, the governments huge deficits will increase inflation making worker’s purchasing power shrink. Out of control government deficit spending will ultimately not only dethrone the dollar on the world stage, but will also drive many experts to leave for greener pastures
China seems to be doing well in all the tech fields. The only place where the USA is still leading is in them medical, medicine, and molecular biology fields. USA medicine may be the best, but also leads the world in high cost.
USA leads in space science because they had a space station for a long time. Now that China has their own space station they can now catch up on the space sciences.
'Wake-Up Call': China Leads in 37 Out of 44 Critical Technology Sectors, Says Report authorThe Wire Staff
Mar 09, 2023 The Australian Strategic Policy Institute has pointed out that only seven of the 44 technologies analysed by its report are currently led by a democratic country, 'and that country in all instances is the US.'
TheWire
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It is said that this is a faux pas used to scare the Anglo American world into hating Chinese more.
@@DW-op7lyChina is more democratic than anything in the West..... what is meant is democratic as the idea of British led governance of yore😅😅
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Usually when I vote?
I vote for the politician and party I think will do the least damage until the next election
I remember the jokes we used to make 15 years ago about the research projects at US West Coast universities. In 80% of the cases, there was always a brilliant, hard-working Chinese scientist/student working on the complex topics and a leisure-oriented US fellow whose name also had to appear on the paper.
lol
Makes perfect sense, that is what learning is about. Learning by experience is a dear school..... better to learn from history, not the manicured versions taught by the Colonialists but the history coded in the DNA. 😊
We tried to send donations to this man, but he directed us to a charity for an African country. I think this channel is very effective for Westerners to reflect on their country's foreign policy.
Long live the Russian, Chinese, Iranian and N Korean Alliances. Stay strong and fight strong
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I have thought about it and it's crazy to see the US & it's allied countries going crazy about the Chinese dominance Green Energy Sector. US & allies had the same Dominance in Chip Production Sector and they decided to sanction their biggest chip consumer (China). China could have done the same with EV's and Solar energy production but they decided to take full monopoly over the markets, it's bringing huge benefits to the Chinese economy.
Now the same US & allies are sanctioning themselves to trade tariffs against the Chinese Green Energy Sector. Which is though not yet visible killing their economy.
My question is why are modern days politicians so dumb 🤔🤔🤔🤔.
When the US imposed sanctions, it woke up China and many other countries. Technology is not magic; it’s only a matter of time before China catches up, given its large population and the high number of geniuses it produces. With positive motivation, China has demonstrated how quickly it can achieve significant advancements. Sanctions are merely short-term hurdles. The US is thinking in terms of the 1980s, but today, recovery and improvement can occur within a year or two.
The Chinese market is too big to dismiss- companies will go to where they can capture market share. That’s basic capitalism “free market”. Thank you for giving details of how companies will follow the market demand.
Informative and interesting 🤔
"China is willing to pay, then someone will supply it."
That only count for research paper written in English.
I see and hear your frustrations on poorly made decisions