Military movies: 'This is Delta 62 on approach path, vector 192, object nearing velocity match mach 2. System match unknown.' Real life: 'Ha ha, look at that thing dude!'.
I saw a video interview of one of the pilots (he is retired now) and he said the most pilot thing ever- "I don't know what it is, but I want to fly it." LMAO
it’s just training to keep fly hours up to date. pilots a lot of the times are kids out of college. when i was deployed i debriefed a pilot after flying over Syria and he was blasting Rob Zombie in the cockpit.
Some of the formalities get thrown out so that info can get communicated in its simplest form. When you're calling in an air strike to a vehicle moving at supersonic speeds or just very fast you dont have time to say "Sir Goodmorning Sir" plus those pilots are peers and most likely friends.
Usually, the correct answer with stuff like this is almost universally the boring one as well. Some previously unknown weather or atmospheric phenomena (or possibly a known one), sensor error, crud obscuring the sensor, etc. If there is a super-advanced alien race out there, we probably give ourselves too much credit in that aliens would find us interesting and want to visit/check us out. (In the same way you don't stop to greet and study every ant colony you come across on a walk.)
I've been flying general aviation airplanes for 50 years and more. Yeah, I'm old but I soloed at 16 before I could drive a car back in 1968. I never saw a UFO while flying in all those years. But as a sober eagle-eyed teenager while stargazing one clear evening I saw a "star" zig-zag up the sky moving and stopping on a dime before it faded out. The zig-zagging lasted for about a minute before it got dimmer and dimmer. Back in those days, we didn't have many satellites in orbit. We hadn't even been to the moon yet. Satellites don't zig-zag and stop, they go in arcs across the sky. I don't know what it was, but I can guess it wasn't one of ours.
And when I can, I just call it what it is: a fucking SAUCER. I have thousands..... tommynikon.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Them/G0000wFa8xMPT8hw/I0000nK72oNhhfv8
It's amazing how, down through the decades, these UFOs are always just at the very fringe of then-current tech. So, they used to be disks seen by eye far in the distance, then they were grainy photos taken at extreme distance. Now, the UFOs have become so sneaky that they are at the extreme sensitivity of advanced fighter jets. It's amazing how they keep up with our tech so we can never quite pin them down. Real smart, them aliens.
Your sarcasm is warranted but their is a reason in that behaviour, they simply don't want to reveal too much because they know the result of each of their actions as they know the future, right now they're only giving us the material that would satisfy those who believe and keep everyone else guessing so to not cause widespread delirium.
Jets aren't faster than the used to be , they can travel further at speed but fighting is done at a lower speed , so no point having a jet so much faster than others , which is annoying I just want us flying out of the atmosphere at 22000 mph with selfies
8:45 - the closure speed (Vc) is a function of both the target's speed/heading as well the Hornet's speed/heading. So a closure speed of 210 knots does not mean the target object is "going really fast." It simply means the angles and speed component of BOTH objects has a closure speed of +210 knots. This closure speed is consistent with a bird/duck flying at around 30 knots.
Someone also once pointed out that he is looking down onto the UAP so that might also cause some level of visual confusion due to displacement I think?
Also, the jet itself has 25k feet altitude (4.7miles), watching an object 35 degrees below flying at the distance of 3.4 miles away from the jet. Yet people claim the object in the video is flying close to the water. I wonder how people passed school if they skipped trigonometry.
Yeah i saw that same thunderfoot video where he also claimed to have seen obvious flapping wings on that "go fast" object. I assume because he wanted it to be a duck so badly that his brain created wings out of nothing. By the way, what kind of duck has a lower body temperature than ocean water?
Critical thinking, intelligent diagnosis, and common sense, how refreshing! It's great to hear someone say that they don't know instead of making up some nonsense. Thumbs up!
Great breakdown, but what's even more interesting is Mover goes from, kind, fun-loving, and relaxed to LOCKED IN and stone faced as soon as he's watching footage. You can tell this man was NOT PLAYING AROUND when he was active duty. So cool! Thank you so much for your service btw!
My father is almost 80 y.o now. I was talking to him about UFO's one day and he told me about an incident that occurred when he was 9 y.o. It was a hot afternoon in Sirohi Village, Rajasthan, India, he was flying a kite when he saw a light ball coming down at an incredible pace. My Father pointed towards it and yelled "what's that?" in our native language to his peers and as soon as he did that it went into the sky at the same incredible pace it was descending earlier. All this happened in a second or two. My father is a doctor by profession with the least interest in aviation, military, aerospace, extraterrestrial, etc. So this account of him holds great significance for me. What boggles my mind is the fact that Bob Lazar on the JR podcast described the flight characteristic of a spaceship/aircraft he worked upon in Area 51 and it is exactly the same as the one described by my father. Many other people over the internet who have sighted UFO's also describe their flight path as having the exact same pattern. Shooting down from the sky and then shooting back up. A RUclipsr psychologist also analyzed that podcast and came to the verdict that Bob Lazar was not lying according to psychological principles. To conclude all I want to say is that craft shown in this video is 100% true. Moreover, chances are it is existing since the 1950s. If they are extraterrestrial then I don't fear them because they could have taken out mankind a long time ago. If it is military technology then it's the world's best-kept secret and why it wouldn't be one? When you got a craft so advance that enemy can never see it or have any clue about it, which can move in the air without any limitation of gravity. What kind of moron will disclose any information about it? At present time, as few as 5 of these crafts can have a significant impact on any kind of conflict, and this assumption is just based on its flight characteristics very few people may know what other technologies it might have.
It's very difficult to know what to do with such radical new information... I am always thankful that I don't believe in God because otherwise I would have to try to become a priest! If I start to believe Aliens are here, what do I do?? Carry on as usual? My mother tells me a story about two colleges of hers, very down to earth people. They were walking to work one day when something huge and all lit up suddenly descended rapidly out of the sky to just above the tree line near them, and then shot off again. And that's it. They lived their lives as before, except they kept reccounting the story to anyone who would listen.
One thing I've learned from using "FLiR" as an infantryman, is that anything can look like anything sometimes. Using the AN PAS13s back in 05 was great. It was an absolute game changer at night. But man, when you're riding in the back of a 7 ton waiting to get hit, or standing post using them to scan the area, things look funky sometimes. It's like that scary dude in the dark you know is there, then when you turn the light on its a coat rack. Is that a T-72 over there past that berm? Or is it a pile of dirt and rubble with a pipe sticking out?
Right. On the ground there can be countless things that you pick up. But in the air, its a whole other story. There should not be large 40ft objects up there defying the laws of aviation. Moreover, these objects were spotted by air to air radar, ground to air radar, FLIR cameras and visual contact. These were not just funky looking objects. They were very likely objects of extraterrestrial origin
@@plr2473 Why do you jump straight from what we know to the least likely explanation? Literally any terrestrial explanation is more likely than that this is an alien object. Start with 'unknown aircraft' and work your way down.
@@WG-tt6hk Then jesus christ yes it was a good thing you were never in the military. You don't just start blazing just because you don't know what it. You probably shouldn't even own a weapon. Discretion my dude.
How do you explain a clearly hot object being boxed? Isn't the whole purpose of a Flir in its precise ability to detect infrared? if so, how can you explain the hot object that was seen moving at tremendous speeds? (faster than the flir can slew)
@@b3at2 actually if you’re an actual alien believer like me, you would already know for a fact that the tic tac craft and the triangular (they’re known as wedge shaped) craft are indeed USA gravitic tech.
Not necessarily, Cruise missiles operate by gliding at subsonic speed. I don't think it's a cruise missile, but it's certainly a plausible explanation in this case.
@@brankomilicevic6904 the entire lifetime of a missile is in the range of seconds. The rocket motor is firing long enough to be visible. And the air friction makes the body of the missile heat up and shine on thermal imaging.
I saw a UFO over our US Air Force base in the autumn of 1964. I worked in Base Operations at James Connally Air Force Base which was near Waco, Texas. Our office was a 24/7 operation and that night I had the midnight shift (11pm to 7am). So I got my normal 9 hours of sleep, stopped by the chow hall for a late dinner and left at about 10:45pm to walk a couple blocks to the control tower (our offices were on the ground floor). The route I was taking toward the control tower took me down the main road which is wide enough for parade formations to march. The road was lined on either side by various single-story office buildings. It was a quiet October evening and no flights were scheduled that evening, so the area was *very* quiet. Suddenly, something up in the air to my left caught my attention. It was some sort of craft that was making absolutely no sound at all as it slowly moved from my left to my right. The shape was tubular (think generally of a submarine but without a conning tower). It had no on-board lights of its own like all aircraft have but the surface material (whatever it was) was reflecting the various lights of the base: streets, runways, taxiways, offices, barracks, etc. As it moved I could see that the surface was not at all uniformly smooth but instead rippled periodically as though there was some sort of internal framework that had external surface plates attached by rivets, screws, welds, glue, who knows what. I could not tell what size it was since I had never seen one of these before and there was nothing near it from which to get an idea of scale, but I had the *feeling* that it was quite large. And, no, it was not the Goodyear Blimp or anything else because (1) blimps don't fly cross country at night and (2) blimp engines make a lot of noise, and (3) no aircraft are allowed to fly over an Air Force base without permission. It moved slowly until the buildings on my right cut off my view. I quickly ran the remaining couple hundred yards to my office then picked up the hot phone to the radar building. When they answered, they told me that since no aircraft were known to be in the area that no one was watching the radar screens, and in fact, everyone was playing a game of poker! And for the same reason, since there were no flights in the area, no one up in the control tower was looking out the windows until I called them, too. Plus, the path of the unknown craft was not over the flight line, but instead, while parallel to the flight line was above and a bit behind the control tower so even if someone was looking out toward the runways, they probably would not have seen the craft moving above and behind them. Of course, when I alerted everyone, they looked around with radar and binoculars but no one else saw anything. The next morning when I got back to my barracks, I was still very excited so told my two roommates about what I saw. One of them worked nights at WACO radio as a disk jockey and that night when he went on the air, he broke the news. Oh, boy did the poop hit the propeller! I was called on the carpet by the base commander for telling the news media that the Air Force reported seeing a UFO! I just told him what I saw and what happened as I've outlined here. A couple days later several officers and civilians from Washington, DC flew in to interview me. I told them the same thing and after a while it all sort of died down. Eventually, the base was closed and I was transferred to Japan to work in the Far East Command Post at Tachikawa Air Force Base out west of Tokyo. Terry Thomas US Air Force Veteran Atlanta, Georgia USA
@@joeg5414 Cool beans! You guys probably had real computers for flight following. We did it all with Teletype machines. Once a flight plan was filed, we would use the Teletype to send the information to Fort Worth Center and they would track the flight and also notify the destination field. The reverse worked for us... when a flight was coming our way, we would get a Teletype message then use chalk to write the flight info on the board until it arrived. We had several civilians who worked with us in Base Ops. When I arrived, I found out that they really wanted to be at home with their wives and family and hated working the 11pm to 7am shift. So I would swap with them which freed up my days. That free time allowed me to go to college at Baylor University in downtown Waco to study photojournalism. I also created photographs for the base newspaper. I won the President Lyndon Johnson Award for Military Photojournalism in 1965 which created a bit of a dustup because I wasn't actually a military photojournalist, I worked in Base Ops While I was stationed at James Connally AFB in '64 and '65, our main mission was to turn out navigators to send to Vietnam. I often wonder how many of those fine young men made it back... most I hope. JCAFB also featured a runway capable of handling Air Force One so in later years (long after I left) when either of the Bush Presidents wanted to fly to their ranches, they had to fly in then switch to other aircraft for the final leg of the flight. I never experienced anything like that but I bet all concerned were uptight on those days. LOL! I was transferred to Tachikawa when the Vietnam War was heating up and *thought* I was going to be working at Base Ops there. Actually, I found out I was assigned to the Far East Command Post which handled everything going from the states to the Far East, mostly by the Great Circle route. A lot of stuff in and out of McCord in Seattle and also Travis in California. The flights would eventually end up in the Philippine Islands at Clark AFB then the personnel and cargo would be sent to where they were needed for the war. Once established at Tachi in January '66, I let the command newspaper (The Kanto Plainsman) know that I would be available for photojournalism assignments any time I was off duty. They were thrilled and the guys in the Photo Lab didn't care one bit because they were told they had to be photojournalists with 4x5" Speed Graphics and flashbulbs! Meanwhile, I had purchased a 35mm Nikon kit in Texas and bought more Nikon gear as soon as I got to Japan. So I had motor drives, wide angle and zoom lenses so could handle sports and editorial photography quite well. I must have because I won several Pentagon awards for photojournalism during my two years there. 50+ years later and I'm still working as a photographer. Good times... Later, Terry
My UFO story from when I was in the US Navy 2000-2004 On Jul 4, 2003, I was on a Destroyer doing a UNITAS around Central/South America (~50mi off the coast of Ecuador IIRC). We had a "fantail party" to celebrate the 4th with BBQ and music, and they even shot some starburst rounds out of the 5" cannons for "fireworks" at dusk. Almost immediately after the starburst rounds, people were hanging out for the BBQ, and five of us were standing next to each other just shooting the sh|t; and I noticed an extremely bright light similar to Venus, or a landing light on an aircraft, ~15 degrees above the horizon. It didn't look like it was moving; but it was hard to tell in the open ocean, and I had no reference for range/altitude. After several minutes, the light was still in the same area, and I started to wonder if it was our helo (which was out doing exercises) coming in for landing. Then at around twilight, we started wrapping up the party and I took one last look, and even asked my shipmates what they thought it could be, since the helo would have landed by that time. Then, almost on queue as we were looking/talking about it, it shot straight up at a speed I've never seen and faded out, all within a second. We all looked at each other saying/thinking "WTF??" as we couldn't explain what it could have been. It definitely wasn't an manned aircraft, as the G forces and load would have made it disintegrate going from zero to many hundreds of mph in a fraction of a second. Although I do lean towards a drone of some sort; at the speed it was moving there should have been a sonic boom, and I'm pretty sure it went out of the atmosphere at the rate it was moving; but it was silence. To this day I can't explain it, and my friends that witnessed it never wanted to talk about it.
They’ve found a way to manipulate gravity, which is how they are able to move so fast without fear of G forces, sonic booms, airframe destruction, etc. It’s the only real explanation if you think about it. Even if some other planet had some crazy propulsion system that could move aircraft at those speeds, you’d still have the G forces and noise while moving through the air. Whichever country figures out how to manipulate gravity first, their military will dominate and be essentially untouchable
Youre not alone man, myself too seen one around the vicinity of my installation it dropped altitude rapidly. It had the brilliance of a bright blue hovering star. For 60 seconds it outshined every star in the sky. Then it shifted to a white brilliance and shot off into space like a bullet. This happened in October 2012 at fort Campbell. We have a dark history of them turning on our nukes in our bunkers from up high.
@@wooski9022 who is they? the only private entity working on developing technology and physics to harness the negative energy from the vaccum of space is earthtech international. We haven't cracked gravity.. The DIRDS (Defense intelligence reference documents) produced in AATIP by the DIA for the Pentagon support its not ours. We havent got a way yet to harness the negative energy in the polarizable vaccum of space. Were close though, that last test to harness it from the Casamir effect took place in 2018 by Hal Puthoff at earthtech international. The journal publishing stated it failed. He is one of the Pentagons AATIP advisors and also the President/CEO of Earthtech International. His chief science advisor is Dr Eric Davis who wrote 5 of the 38 DIRDS produced for the Pentagon. Those DIRDS are published on the Earthtech Internationals website for anyone to receive. However spinning superconductor test were done in 1999 by NASA according to a paper Hal Puthoff wrote. Test results revealed a reduction of mass and gravity. If all else id believe based on sciece publishings ive seen and read, we have weight reduction technology utilizing craft with spinning superconductors. However the latter does not, unless highly classified. Steve Justice and Hal Puthoff are working on building craft using space time metric engineering for TTSA from reverse engineered UFO debris. A CRADA was signed with the Army to test those materials in 2019 made news everywhere. The NYT is also currently producing a huge article to reference a Government UFO crash retrieval program where we have material and (potentially) bodies. Im being serious on that, hang tight. I can't disclose further information in that area. It will be a surprise for all.
@@Theduckwebcomics There likely are aliens out there. With how many planets and stars there are, it would be more surprising if there weren't any with intelligent life. However, the government definitely isn't sitting on evidence of their existence. The only way aliens could have already had interactions with earth is in the sense of them doing things that can't ever be verified as true. A good example would probably be the Grinning Man stories. No one could ever definitively prove those stories, because they don't damage anything, and only show themselves to isolated individuals. There also some stories which seem like examples of aliens having the same type of shitty coworkers we all have known, which I would love to be true just for how hilarious it would be
@@thenickfoxx there's so much batshit flying around it's pretty much a joke in itself. Also don't forget about the Amazon and Siberian fires. And the Great Barrier Reef's mass bleaching. Then the bloody hurricanes and typhoons. It'd suck if one appeared outta nowhere in the middle of this pandemic eh.
When you see a contrail in the sky you often can't see the plane but that doesn't mean u don't know what it is. When it could easily be a balloon, drone, bird whatever u don't really call it a ufo just because u couldn't see the object clearly. Pretty sure that's what he means. Pilots would see ufo's on every flight by the standard your suggesting. The Cool World's channel did a great breakdown on what we're seeing in these videos and exactly why they behave the way they do. It's basically perspective, camera artifacts and spatial disorientation by the pilot. Perspective can make all kinds of mundane things seem unusual at first glance.
The problem is the speed these objects are moving at....the object moving across the water is going at a incredible speed... which makes his argument of a drone ridiculous and same with the object in the sky moving at insane speeds and a very odd shape...this can't be easily explained and is interesting...
@@darrendawson1339 What makes you think that the objects are moving fast? If it's because it just looks like they are then you should know that humans beings can't judge speed without knowing several other factors and even then only with training. The jets are moving fast. The objects are not moving fast, its a well understood and well documented optical illusion. One of the objects was nearly stationary, the pilot was disoriented and didn't realize he was just flying a big circle around a very slow moving object. He thought it was mirroring his moves, he was wrong. The rotating diamond one is likely the heat plume from a very far away jet. The rotation is cause by the gimbal lock on his imaging pod. The distance is the reason it only showed up on flir and not radar as it was out of range. You should really watch the CoolWorlds video on this. It literally explains every feature with mundane explanations. Things that are absolutely proven to happen. Or I guess it could be aliens that some how got here and somehow have magic tech that we can't even guess how could realistically work. Or secret aircraft, because if the military has happened on some kind of physics breaking technology they would keep it secret. Yeah they just want to give our adversaries a chance to catch up and develop the same tech so we'll be in a fair fight. And who wants to revolutionize technology, energy production, transportation anyway? Thats way over rated.. Does that really sound likely? I know it would be cool if it was aliens but it's just not. And we should be happy because if it was they don't have good intentions and basically control the laws of physics. Also if there are 2 technological civilizations living close enough in space and time to contact each other then that would almost certainly mean that intelligence is everywhere. And likely has been for a very very long time. Why do we not see any evidence of that? It should be painted across the night sky and buried in our geologic record from all the visits that should have happened. Aliens flying around our skies, occasionally crashing and molesting our cows and country folk just makes so many different kinds of no sense. That's actually a good thing.
@@allineedis1mike81 there is video of the two pilots who talk about the object GO FAST because of the amazing speed it was traveling...it was incredible work to even get the object in it's camera's and the pilot who is retired now and was one of the top in his field explain how he was able to circle to get a glimpse of the tic tac shaped object...he explained how it knew they were there and took a hard bank to the right leaving them in complete awe of the speed in which it was traveling...these men were veterans and highly skilled...listen to the voice audio of the pilot he was amazed by what they seen...I'm not suggesting they were aliens and Ethier were the fighter pilots...very interesting video none the less...
@@gwills9337 I don't understand why people always assume ocean water is freezing cold. Google "ocean temperatures" and you will see that ocean temps range from 28-86 degrees F (-2 to 30 degrees C).
@@shanejohns7901 yeah and the thrust of a missile is hundreds of degrees, so whats your point, and off the socal coast the water is pretty cold, ive surfed it year round
They were talking about the newer navy videos on the Today show, which is big for this topic. I'm predicting the UFO report in July will make the Nightly News and more. Nobody will care until they show the good stuff though.
There's a pretty good story on Joe Rogan's podcast from Cmdr David Fravor, retired Navy fighter pilot. He ran into one of these back in 2004 and just recalls the event. Highly recommend the watch.
The third clip here (the clearest) was Fravor's incident, you can also hear his voice on the soundtrack. But I agree here with CW Lemoine, looking at just these videos, ignoring the sound track or whatever else has been said elsewhere, it ain't much to go on. Just aerial contacts of unknown size, mostly just an IR signal and, in the case of two of the three clips here, no ranging data, so we don't know what size, how far and hence how fast. Also, looking at the apparent speed of the objects against the background (of either water or sky) tells you little about the absolute velocity of the object because what you're seeing is a moving line-of-sight between a moving F18 and a distant object it's tracking.
Cmdr is a bullshit artist. He mentions on many occasions that he likes to mess with people when it comes to aliens and UFO. As for this video it is clearly a bug/ insect on the camera lens. Looks like a cricket.
Have you seen the interview with Alex Dietrich? She was flying in the F/A18 SH behind David Flavor, and she has stated she did not see or agree with Favors' claims. Alex completely debunks his UFO sightings. Here is a link: ruclips.net/video/uwZU6RiTEAw/видео.html
12:11 "nothing all that special about it" lol except for the other pilot who saw it from another plane, who watched it do radical moves for 5 minutes, then disapearing in front of his eyes and it relocated 60 miles in a few seconds. He later said on fox news "I am of the opinion it was not of this world"
For the first video, the missile/drone explanations make no sense. Tell me how you can move at 210 knots without a heat signature? It was cooler than the surroundings...
Except if it is an anomaly, which is the most likely explanation, then it didn't actually do that, that is his interpretation of what he saw and what the system recorded. What if it was a bug squashed into the front of the pod? When it disappeared off to the left it was just the bug getting flicked off? If the ranging was off then everything else was off too. Speed, size, motion it all depends on accurate ranging.
@@Celtic_Thylacine woah buddy i think you may be onto something... you should definately write to Raytheon and tell them them their systems are rubbish 😆😆 while you are at it may as well write to Cmdr David Fravor and tell him he is an idiot too😆😆
@@blarghinatelazer9394 Update: My misunderstanding; I thought you were referring to the OP about a CIA/UFO conspiracy. I think you're pretty blind if you cannot see the questions around 911. There is near universal consensus among physics folk that what happened on 911 is impossible if you accept the "official" narrative. Doesn't mean anyone knows what really happened, only means that you need to be a pretty trusting or gullible person to continue accepting the official story. We need to keep pushing until we find the truth. ------------------ (original post) Right? Kind of like "Coronavirus is a secret weapon"... only it doesn't actually kill anything any more than the common flu. Everyone wants a conspiracy.
@AIG Yeah... funny how some folks get really angry when other people question official narratives. 911 is extremely difficult for these folks; cognitive dissonance is painful and the easiest solution is to simply lash out at whoever is causing the discomfort.
john smith it’s from another plane not the man on the Joe Rogan podcast, he was the one chasing it with his wingman. If eyes could record video imagine what we would see
@john smith The 2004 Nimitz flir video was taken AFTER David Fravor's encounter with a different plane of ONE of the radar signatures observed by U.S. spy radar onboard the Princeton and Nimitz. However, all 4 airmen claim to visually observed the object with their own eyes on that incident
You can't: the pilot will always believe he saw what he believed he saw. The Russian pilot who shot down the Korean airliner swears to this day he saw a radar dish on the roof. He honesty believed he saw it before he pulled the trigger. Having that conversation now makes no difference to anyone.
David Fravor was one of the pilots who encountered it. If you search him here in YT there’s several interviews where he explains his point of view on what happened that day.
Your voice is hushed while the pilots’ voices are super loud. The video is this almost painful to listen to although helps to understand more detail on the screens.
Have you seen the interview with Alex Dietrich? She was flying in the F/A18 SH behind David Flavor, and she has stated she did not see or agree with Favors' claims. Alex completely debunks his UFO sightings. Here is a link: ruclips.net/video/uwZU6RiTEAw/видео.html
At 13:45 note that the entire image shakes each time the object begins to rotate. This indicates to me the apparent rotation is actually something to do with the tracking telescope, not the object itself. I suspect it's something like the turret ball is approaching a physical stop or limit and has to reorient to maintain track, causing the overexposed and bloomed image (elongated due to some asymmetry in the imaging system) to rotate.
I seem to remember there being somewhat of a tradition of classified equipment of our own being used to mess with our own people. Such as the Test pilot of the Bell P-59 Airacomet wearing a gorilla costume and getting a kick out of bomber and P-40 pilots reporting a propellerless aircraft with a hairy man in the cockpit. I think there is even stories of the F-117 test pilots giving people a peak before speeding off which gave rise to all the “diamond shape” ufo sightings in the 80’s. It might be a Air Force drone dicking around with the navy.
It makes some sense if you think about it. Wanna find out just how difficult your experimental craft is to find? Run it by some of your own army/airforce/navy, see what, if anything, they find.
"I think there is even stories of the F-117 test pilots giving people a peak before speeding off which gave rise to all the “diamond shape” ufo sightings in the 80’s." Exactly!! As a kid i always look up the shape and details of the UFO's... if you see pictures of the 50's, a UFO with tec of that decade,etc. Now, Smartphones kill them haha. But probably should look like the space ships of "arrival".
@@monolithofwoe4366 Unless I'm misinterpreting something the v_c is the relative speed. The Hornet is flying at >400 kt so most of those 240 mph are because of that. If you do the trigonometry you'll get a speed of 60 kt for the bird, which is fast but perfectly achievable with a tailwind of ~30 kt which is quite typical for 12000 feet.
To everyone- The display has an option to select how a target is displayed. Look at the bottom of the display, just left of center and look for "BLK" or "WHT" before deciding whether the target is hot or cold. The overall relative brightness can also be adjusted.
He said the object was going fast because it had a closure rate of around 200 knots, but never took into account the airspeed of the fighter heading towards it at a viewing angle of 45 degrees... sheesh.
That is one easy way to figure out what it is :D Either DARPA would come whining about having their toy destroyed, some guys complaining about a missing airliner or GA aircraft. :D
The explanation of the different IR modes and operation of the pods was really interesting and helpful. There was another video being circulated with these that showed triangular lights over a bay. This one was debunked by someone with knowledge that the shutter on that particular camera was triangular and when the shutter is partially closed it has the effect of forming light patterns into triangles and the video was actually just a commercial aircraft at night.
Not only that, they identified the specific airline and flight # of the "lights" in the "Triangle UFO Video." But, no-one seems to interested in that, they just want believe... I get it, but after decades of the same poor quality of evidence I think the verdict is pretty clear.
My dad was in the Air Force as a traffic controller in the mid 50s at Sweetwater Air Station in Texas and had told me a few stories of arranging intercepts on UFOs. He would say, “it’s always interesting that the Target would only let the F86s get so close, then they would speed away at high speed”
@@williamwilson6499 Everything is a story when you aren't there. This includes, for you, apparently, the entire world around you that you can't be present in. We are intelligent beings (some of us) and can use our judicial analysis to comb through patterns and evidence and find things that stand out. But some of us are the type of people who have the answer to begin with--they start from an absolute premise (there are no ufos, ObViOsLy) and dismiss all data contradicting their premise.
The first one kinda seems like a training device. The guy was so happy when he locked onto it and not worried at all that it might be a threat. Like, "YAY I passed the test!"
@@ralphholiman7401 kinda hard to get pilots to be afraid of things like that, especially when the most exciting thing they see is water. The radar techs also tracked it at 33,000mph in the ship, from 2 completely different radars. 0-max speed instant acceleration and could stop instantly. Watch The Nimitz encounter documentary
@@SJ-wj8zz I just don't think on duty military pilots get giddy when they see unidentified vehicles which could potentially be enemy weapons. Especially ones that apparently completely outclass their own vessel. They would be very nervous.
He also spoke on the Fighter Pilot Podcast, which is a more technical view into the encounter. I highly recommend checking it out! ruclips.net/video/dvfRRgFHSRE/видео.html
@@anthonyc5039 I think the point was more so that we're still in the dark on these things as the only source we have is the AT FLIR footage, thus leaving this unidentified for us.
@@vukpsodorov5446 that doesn't make sense , these are not unidentified objects they aircrafts intelligentaly manouvering specificly and that's the real question who made them and where did they come from
Fun note from someone who launches weather balloons. They can fly to 100,000ft + MSLP. They expand with height so they can be large. Very neat to hear you have seen them flying.
Everyone thinks I'm crazy when I talk about it, but I think David Icke has gotten a lot of stuff right. Those things flying in the sky are just us, a part of a vast empire that stretches across the stars. Some of us live in the dirt wondering why we are here, and others live lavishly in the comfort of societies we'll never understand, flying and driving vehicles that even our brightest minds couldn't reverse engineer. The only thing to fear is fear itself.
@@cdcarias95 No it doesn't. Only to those who want to believe.. "THEY DEPLATFORMED HIM HE MUST BE RIGHT!" is a leap of logic that demands that the person doing the leap has already made up their minds about what is and what is not real. David Icke is an adept charlatan and probably not fully right in the head. Also, he didn't get deplatformed, he broke the youtube rules, enough people have had their fill of his bullshit, a lot of conspiracy nuts got sorted out about the same time as Icke did. RUclips essentially just found a good time to do a culling of lunatics. Alex Jones was the first to get shafted, then there were more who followed. I'm not personally in favor of youtube banning folks. But I have no issues with seeing why. It's not because he was right, it was because his presence is poison for the platform. No platform owner wants lunatics to be amongst the bigger contributors. These types of cullings make the believers believe harder, but that's just how it goes. Alex Jones wasn't more correct just cause he got thrown off the platform. He just outstayed his welcome, and RUclips saw their chance to kick him off once all the conspiracy nuts started turning towards terrorism and insane acts of lunacy.
After spending around 23 looking at the phenomenon, I'll say this... 99% of what we see, that's deemed "unidentified", is man made. There are varying degrees or layers of the populace who can go from either not knowing a 737, if it's right in front of them; all the way to individuals who are trained in aircraft recognition. Most people get things completely wrong. After that, mistakes can be made by others as well. However, some things (still within that 99%), are not recognizable to 99% of us. The U.S., in particular, has spent untold billions on black projects and dark aircraft, since the mid 1950's. Things have gotten more exotic and "odd", as time has progressed. And yes, those who "test" these crafts, do intentionally fly them over or through certain areas, to test their visual or electronic footprint. "Area 51" (official designation: Air Force Flight Test Center, Detachment 3) gets more funding per year, than most militaries in the world. So yes, 99% of what we see, are things being tested for future usages. Technologies that are, or would seem, 20-30 years ahead of where we currently are.
Give away would be its turn radius, if its pulling some insane G's, its unmanned. Wonder if there's a way for their aircraft to scan for the datalink.. jam it and see what the "UFO" does :D
I believe we've created some prototype platforms that are intentionally loaded with jamming, counter jamming, and various sorts of electronic counter measures (while making the craft non-stealth), in order to thoroughly test experimental the electronics/avionics. Thus getting "intentionally" intercepted. This might be one of these types of drones/UAV, etc.
The Sentinel RQ 170 drone made its debut around 2007 ... I wonder if these aerial anomalies were a precursor to that platform, and smaller versions of drones were being tested. I'm likely to believe it is definitely skunkworks type aircraft highly classified.
Wasn't that the tac video? He saw what we are seeing and he thought it was a lot closer than it really was. You have an actual fighter pilot, not a debunker, saying that it's nothing but a heat source. Mick West, who is a debunked, concluded that the object was not necessarily rotating, just the heat source, which is exactly what this pilot is saying. I find it interesting.
What I find just as interesting as the tic tac itself was the massive thing he and others saw just under the water where these tic tacs were operating. Something the size of a 737 just under the surface and we don't know what it is? Sounds like a potential national security threat to me..
When he said "it's rotating" he meant the actual object in the video. It's sort of shaped like an umbrella and the top moves from straight up to the left as it rotates. I'm not familiar with IR mode but I'm not sure how the heat signature would change the shape of the object.
@@freezingmoon75 Its not the heat thats rotating, its the lens. Have you seen cameras producing collideascope effects when looking at lights at night? Same thing.
Mick West and the Cool Worlds channel did a great breakdown on these. Just be careful in the comments section. People get a little uh... emotional about this topic.
Yes, the videos are entirely explainable... The gimbal is the most obvious, as the claim is made that the "object" (I agree w the hypothesis that this Black IR image of some kind of aircraft from behind and that the blob is the heat signature) just happens to rotate at the same time the gimbal rotates in order to keep tracking the target as he's coming out of a bank... I am not a fan of coincidences.
@@sonicextem3 Well, to me, it makes more sense than "Aliens" (not that you're claiming that, not starting a fight!) ... People, including experts, make mistakes all the time (I value expertise, but also know that experts are human). The thing to remember in the gimbal video is that the pilot did not have eyes on the target, he was looking at the video (well, his readouts) as the "object" was at the outside range of the FLIR... But, I think it's a mistake to try and explain eye witness testimony anyway as it's a starting place for any investigation, not really good evidence on its own.
@@christophercousins184Yea I got you. I worded my comment kinda rudely so I'm sorry about that. You are correct, that right now all we have are those videos and pilots testimonies. But I still believe that Fravor saw a real vehicle, that broke our known laws of physics, and which was spotted on radar on multiple systems, and in his own words "something not from this world". But I understand that we all make mistakes, even the best do. I hope the global pressure manages to push pentagon to release more data, so we can solve this mystery..
My grandpa was a military pilot and then a captain for United till he retired . He is the most serious no bs straight edge person Iv ever seen in my life he doesn’t swear or drink. And since I was pretty young I remember him telling me about him seeing a UFO . Like a light fly up to the left side of the plane and and then around it to the other side and fly off . He doesn’t say it’s an alien or anything but it always blew my mind with that coming from him .
"They're in IR mode, so it may not be rotating, but the heat source is". Whoa, that introduces interesting possibilities. That is the first time I've heard that observation.
Then please explain which Earth nation has made the historical break thru of all time and solved the Grand unified theory of relativity to counter act Gravity and mass inertia to make an aerial craft that can travel 28,000 ft in .75 seconds and come to a complete stop 50 feet above the ocean - As recorded by the USS Princeton guided missile cruiser in the USS Nimitz battle group in 2004 = I will wait
@@spookyninja4098 Don't worry yourself about the close minded people on this planet, concerned only about when the next lame phone is coming out. Some people will never be capable to comprehend the big picture.
Are you a sad- or a happy clown??? These sensors are the Creme de la Creme of the USNavy and US Airforce. You missed the fact that these clips have been recorded by state of the art weapon systems.
@@jerome1lm it’s what the flying saucer type craft actually are... you have internal combustion craft (planes/rockets) and you have electro-magnetic gravitic craft (flying saucers)...
Hey Mover you should look up Cmdr David Fravor. One of the pilots in his squadron took the 2nd video you showed, and he had an up close visual encounter with it the same day. Interviews available on fighter pilot podcast and Joe Rogan. He doesn't sound like a kook at all, he definitely saw something... different.
@@neonpop80 dude . best comment I've seen on ufos . narrow minded people are the reason this world is screwed up . ufos are called angles in the bible .. And if this went to court. . i witness testimony alone it would be an open and closed case .. Just goes to show people are in denial . too afraid to (handle the truth.) Maybe the government is right to keep it from the public .. It's obvious the majority are still not ready . and would lose their minds if made to face reality . and probably the reason our interplanetary friend. Doesn't reveal their selves .
Greetings from Brazil. Great video. You got something that´s hard to find on internet today...Objectivity. I like the way you got straight to the point.
This video is really hard to find. I stumbled upon it once and then couldn't find it again. Luckily I linked it in a recent comment. It's probably because it's a year old, but also almost every other video is just sensationalizing it.
No responsible investigator ever said UAPs are extraterrestrial, but every investigator has said that just because an object is unknown doesn't mean it's extraterrestrial. Someone isn't listening.
Hello Pilot! I have seen UFO in my life for 5-6 times of which 1 occasion was 100% UFO spotting. I am in to aviation, space technology, and science. The one thst is 100% sure was the orange star like light hanging in the sky, changing dynamics. I called in my brother(he is a pilot) and told him: look i think that's a ufo. He replied: really? I couldn't tell of 8t was 3km high or 15km high. It was just hanging and had orange color. But what happened next was fascinating. (The sky was clear midsummer night. I know how planets and ISS look like) . The light got dimmer, to almost barely visible, then got 2x brighter than it was originally, then got dimmer than it was originally, and within a blink of an eye, it just warp drived away in to space like a shooting stsr would do towards the earth. We were left speechless shouting whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?! :) space is too big to be kept by humans only. Sorry guys
I was in Argentina in the 90s when Mirage interceptors were dispatched on the Federal capital. And yes, it was a cylindrical craft. Some think it was Russian, some think it was an UFO. Sadly, sovereignty violations are always covered because means the fighter pilots can stop it.
Here's your fucking confirmation.....and this fucker was directly over MY neighborhood. 60+ sightings. #Believer tommynikon.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Them/G0000wFa8xMPT8hw/I0000nK72oNhhfv8
GodzillaGamer 49 how could it possibly be confirmed to be aliens in the first place? We don’t know if aliens even exist let alone what their craft looks like. Or maybe they do know. Regardless aliens can’t be dismissed especially since they can’t identify what kind of air craft it is
Years ago when I was active on the Skeptics forum we analyzed the footage and with certain confidence found which targeting system it was - Raytheon __some_code. We read how internals was, how the "arm" with sensor moves and it was on a "gimbal." And we drew a couple of maps to look at angles at which target was and flight path - trying to chase so one map looked like half circle. Like Mover said they were trying to get behind. And with some reasoning, we concluded that targeting system's arm was probably at the angle at which gimbal held the arm and the arm would need to rotate to reacquire the target. So this was the reason it looks like it just "accelerate" and disappears. No actually "arm" started rotating because it was at it's maximum angle. How did we knew that? It was described from previous Raytheon system - there were "blown out" schematics and it was obvious camera cannot "look" at every angle freely. If anyone is interested enough I could find a link. (It was a collaboration of people from every expertise and of course people outside the USA, like me. So forgive my grammar and maybe my autocorrect.)
Perfect; you're a skeptic. Tell you what, skippy, "analyze" this, then get back to me. TELL me your "theory". And then I'll tell you the real world experiences. Here's but one, directly over my neighborhood. tommynikon.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Them/G0000wFa8xMPT8hw/I0000nK72oNhhfv8 TELL me, what you "think". I eat skeptics- of most things, for breakfast.
@@nickdial8528 The eyewitness accounts saw something that they interpret as instantaneous movement. Now think of a firefly on a dark night. How can it instantaneously travel almost one hundred meters? It doesn't. Given the right conditions, multiple objects may synchronize so that a single object seems to be moving at impossible speed.
When someone says that these videos are something ordinary or mundane they are ignoring all of the accompanying information and eyewitness testimony. They're calling the thousands, if not millions, of witnesses either ignorant or liars.
9:37 fun fact... thermal imaging is not a magic tmeperature gauge - there are factor that influence it like reflective surfaces - although what's reflective depends on wavelength but if you look at a reflective blank metal surface with a thermal camera you're going to get less information about it's temperature than what's well... relectd in it also if you look up at the clear sky with a thermal camera and you don't look irectly into the sun even on a warm day it looks really cold so basically if you see a piece of tinfoil from above with a termal camera on a summer day with clear skies there's a 99% chance it will look really cold even if it's actually a bit warmer than it's environment
I've used them a few times doing work in the concrete field (of all things lol), to look for voids in CMU walls etc. The one we had was sensitive enough to see someone's footprints on concrete on a very hot day. It could also, on the same day detect the warm air left by a human hand as it was passed in front of the lens. It could absolutely detect fractions of a degree. I know early military equipment maybe wasn't as sensitive but I've seen videos of people discussing this and later models are at least as sensitive as the gear I was using around 2000-2002. So I have to think that even if things like what you're talking about are a problem that the gear is capable of at least displaying it when you zoom out a bit and that the crews would be trained for such visual artifacts. That's why we get some pretty solid visual tracks here IMO despite some fuzzy footage on the older gear.
It also means that you'll see an aircraft's tailpipes, but not it's fuselage when looking in IR. That to me rather easily explains the second and third clips.
@kim Dier You can see what appears to be an exhaust plume, but have no idea what kind of aircraft is generating it. Fighter planes have radar, but you typically don't go active unless you have reason to. The simple reason is that the radar signal will broadcast your direction to any passive sets at a greater range than it generates a useful return to your own set.
@kim Dier We have no reason to think the object accelerated out of view. All we see is that the camera stopped tracking, which is a common thing. Go watch a whole bunch of CAS videos. At some point you'll find one where the camera loses tracking for a moment. It's really nothing special. The object that was "skimming the ocean" was in fact not skimming the ocean. It's an optical illusion. If you think about it logically, the object appears to be very cold. What can appear very cold? A low power aircraft or an animal that is flying high. Low power aircraft and animals fly slow. So, that's already a hint that it wasn't flying fast. What would make it appear to fly fast? Being high up in the air with a distant background behind the object. Look up parallax effect. In short, objects that are close to the background will appear to move slower. Objects that are far away from the background (closer to the camera) will appear to move faster. It's just an optical illusion. The pilots are excited for the same reason people watching these videos are excited. They don't understand what's going on.
One of the only simple explanations I can imagine that could possibly account for all these details would be these things are extremely advanced aerial drones that some govt has been secretly testing. That’s kind of unbelievable, but not much more unbelievable than assuming it’s from an extraterrestrial, off-planet source.
graydon woods - Id be inclined to agree with you if they didn’t defy all known physics. These pilots have witnessed these things stopping on a dime, making impossible maneuvers and straight up vanishing in thin air while simultaneously appearing miles away. If any human organization actually has such technology, they could easily take over the entire world. Creating artificial gravity around a craft is light years beyond our capabilities. It would change EVERYTHING. I’ve seen similar craft with my own eyes in Palm Springs one night. There were 5 of them and judging by the distance from the mountain they were at least as large as a bus. They were all shining a single spotlight on the mountain near the bottom, then within maybe two seconds they all lined up and shot up and over the mountain and disappeared. No sound, no other lights. I could see them well because it was a bright moon and I swear to God there is no known aerial craft that can move that quickly. That mountain, Mt San Jacinto I think, is nearly 11,000 ft. They flew from almost the ground to over the top peak within a couple seconds! With zero sound and no visible exhaust. It was a quiet night and I was in a parking lot pretty close to the mountain. Maybe they were enormous drones with insane, secret tech, but that seems unlikely. Then again, ETs aren’t too likely either. Then again again...
@graydon woods it was colder than the 60-70° ocean below it and it moved extremely fast. Judging by fravor's eye witness account it also accelerated very impossible by todays standards. It should have given off some heat if it was made with human knowledge of physics.
I'm open minded as to what these could be but the problem that I have with the secret government tech explanation is that the exact same sighting descriptions have been reported for pretty much 60 or 70 years so are we saying our governments have had this tech for that length of time? Maybe 20 years is feasible but not 60 years. Unless of course the original sightings way back then were ET and the multitude of sightings we see today are our back engineered objects.
Was looking for a breakdown of these videos. Was not disappointed. Thank you sir, highly appreciated, finally I understand the contents of the videos 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Lt. Commander Fravor’s interview is very telling. To say they didn’t know what it was, is a cop-out. When you add everything up from the radar signatures to the pilot reports, it forms a complete picture. Without those details, you can only speculate.
What makes these videos unique is listening to the pilots testimony into these events. The one video that you said was a drone doesn't make sense because the pilots could only see it in IR which was why the crew was so excited to catch it on the camera because they couldn't see it with the naked eye.
i agree with you! I am baffled at why C.W is brushing all these credible witnesses (pilots) and calling them drones.. when we are also dealing with trained observers here, who were actually in the air chasing these things at the time. i trust their testimonies a whole lot more than a monday morning quarterback.
I love your sane logic. If we don't know what it is, it only means that we don't know what it is. Some people believe that not knowing means knowing though.
Well not knowing what it is is an embarrassment. Because if the US Navy and military is the best in the world with the best tools and technology; they should know what it is. Do you see the problem here? Pfft!
Not exactly true. He saw the object with others but it was the team that went up after them who took the footage which confirmed the earlier teams visual sighting of the craft. Either way he should 100% interview him and let's see him tell fravor another country has technology that means crafts can go from 10,000 feet to a foot above sea level in 1 second and also be a physical object that radar has contact with 😯
@@chriss8562 without the radar data to confirm that, it's just speculation. Maybe they have that on record and we'll see it in July. I hope we do see more data than just these IR recordings to help confirm the eyewitness accounts either way, because the IR shoes nothing remarkable.
@@Mike_C-79 I've a feeling congress might get to hear/see the full facts but realisticly there are gonna be so many classified files that they can't/won't share with the public which I suppose is understandable really.
@@notsillyone why would the bird be colder than water? Also, do we know where was this filmed, I mean geographically, so we can know what water temperature is?
@@stefanjasovic2311 Because it's flying in cold air. I'm sure the details of each of them is available somewhere, but I seem to remember at least 2, if not all 3 were in California
My UFO story comes from an event that I observed while driving at night near Las Vegas. I saw a bright moving object (that I thought was a satellite) make what appeared to be an abrupt 90-degree change in course without slowing down or taking a curved path of any kind. The light then rapidly accelerated out of view at a speed that I have not observed in any way before or since. Obviously my point of view and range from the object would influence what I saw. Also, being that I was close to both Nellis AFB and Groom Lake I have always had my doubts about what exactly it was, but it was crazy!
Wtf.... you literally saw the exact same thing i did back in 1998. What color light? The one i saw was a fuzzy blue. When it accelerated it crossed 2/3 of the sky in under 4 seconds. Three of us saw it from where we were kinda illegally camping on saddleback mountain in Orange County, ca.
@@LBCAndrew I've heard stories from fighter pilots about pulling UFO pranks on campers at night. When they were on night training missions they could see camp fires through their NV goggles from dozens of miles away. They would basically sneak up on them at high speeds, pull power to idle so they cant hear it, then when they got to the camp fire they pull up to a vertical and turn the after burners on for 3 seconds and disappear again.
@@natepm6589 That is not how UAP's work and people are not that stupid. If you see a UAP you will know it especially if they go under water and fly again which is little talked about. Congress had a hearing this year on UAP's. They are very real and they are not American technology nor foreign technology.
@@warfarenotwarfair5655 I’m not dismissing any ideas you might have. I’m just referring to this individuals experience and suggesting they may have experienced a fighter pilot prank. That’s all.
What type of fuel will such a drone need to be flying the middle of the ocean with sustained high speed. No fuel tanks, no heat source. Whatever it is , its not normal technology.
UFOs are either one of two things. Skunks from the US or another nation, or straight supernatural stuff. I do not believe aliens exist so I do not think the UFOs are extraterrestrial.
@@jnx4803 but here's the thing the navy was tracking this 'object' for days.. so unless it's a tomahawk that can fly around for days.. it's not a missile nor a drone.
@@surrealsupercell7217 "I do not bellive ailens exist" is a pretty naive assertion. I'm not gonna get into the obvious about the size of the universe and even the galaxy to start explaining why that's a pretty wrong assumption but at BEST for your argument's sake they're just rare and hard to find. It is entirelly 100% scientifically and physically possible that hidden/hard to find Von Neumann probes exist in the Solar System or that an Extrarerrestrial Civilization has visited this world in the past. But it's also a fact that it would most certainly be *extreemely difficult* to find evidence given how old this planet is. We've only been a space capable species for little over what 70 years? You cant expect these things to be solved overnight or espescially within our lifetime sadly.
Yeah, at what altitude? Basically the ratio of `fastest aircraft at that altitude` : 10,000 knots, is the same ratio as 'my expertise' : 'CW Lemoine expertise' and explains why -content- analysis like his doesn't impress me. edit: strikethrough & replacement
whatever tf it was that boi was zooming, and no human would be able to stand travelling that fast so that UFO either had an out of this world being flying it, or it was remote controlled by something else, or maybe even self flying🤔
@@brownepstein5536 Speed isn't an issue for humans, it's the acceleration i.e. the change of speed over time that is incompatible with biological life at those levels (from 0 to 19000kph in less than a second)
The 1st video the pilot states he was vectored there to check out what the radar people (yes that's the correct MOS) were seeing on radar. It was at high altitude then low, moving at various speeds. They had seen it previously on radar before. I would've appreciated your comments / opinion while listening to the pilots comments as they watched it. I've watched several interviews with that pilot and it's interesting to say the least.
Dont you think that anything that is observed only through instruments like radar to do physically impossible things but never with the naked eye or on video, that it is most likely an error in the instrument be it soft or hardware? I meen their argument litteraly is: we have seen the numbers on the radar say it is at this altitude and a second later a totally different altitude. ALIENS.
@@sambal777 Bro, they also saw it visually. They visually saw it accelerate so fast that it was gone from sight in a few seconds towards the horizon. What do you think where visual description comes from, especially two "L" shaped appendages on the bottom of the Tic-Tac? They saw them on radar, FLIR, visually. Multiple sensors from multiple platforms were involved, and, when the objects were first starting to appear on radar, they first thought on the radar ship that they were getting ghost tracks, after recalibrating the radar the returns only got sharper.
Radar is not definitive, that's why we scramble jets to follow up. And I know people don't like this, but pilot sightings are not reliable forms of evidence. Pilot error happens all the time and is an accepted fact except when it comes to UAP sightings for some reason. The only real evidence we have of these "encounters" are the videos and that is what needs to be examined. Testimony is useful when one can compare it to whatever tangible evidence one can gather to either support that testimony or undermine it.
The 1st video was a missile seeker test. They were testing the missile as well as anyone's ability to track it. The plane wasn't told what they were intercepting because the test was to see if they could find and track it. All the new missile/drone swarm stuff entering service... well, that's what you are looking at.
Great video, Mover. If you don't know what something is, then you don't know what something is. No amount of speculation will make that thing what you THINK it is, until more information or evidence of that very SAME THING can prove otherwise. Why people just love to presume aliens because of one pilot's opinion when it could be a multitude of things is what baffles me the most.
The simple fact that the object is cooler than the sea water below it to me is the best evidence that it could in fact be extraterrestrial. I use FLIR systems every day for work (HVAC troubleshooting) and being that the thermal display is set to black hot the propulsion systems should be clearly evident if it was a drone or missile. A Missile would leave an obvious heat trail behind it and a drones propellers would show up as black circles or a straight thin black line. Not to mention the heat signature from the motors but that could be hidden from thermal with insulation. I don’t think the military would bother trying to insulate the engine housings to avoid thermal detection being that the craft stands out like a sore thumb due to how cold it operates. I don’t see how it could possibly be colder than the water being that it’s in direct sunlight which would build enough heat for the thermal to detect. I think a drone of some sort is the best candidate other than a hyper dimensional phase changing extraterrestrial space craft 👽👽😉😂 That footage is by far the strongest evidence for possible unknown technologies
Just to clarify, the idea of us being the only ones isn't arrogant, it's just basic probability. But we have to get outside the notion of one universe and one plane of reality. These things didn't 'travel' here by any means we could conceive of. They may not even exist in any form we can conceive of.
Military movies: 'This is Delta 62 on approach path, vector 192, object nearing velocity match mach 2. System match unknown.'
Real life: 'Ha ha, look at that thing dude!'.
Total bullshit scam. Like everything else.
@@terryhigson434 hey terry, baby, if you thought movies were depicting real life then you deserve to be deceived.
Hahaha. In movies, they even remember those grid reference without referring to a map too!
@@flintsky7706 ?
@@terryhigson434 he's saying that films are indeed "scams" and aren't meant to be taken as a realistic reference
I saw a video interview of one of the pilots (he is retired now) and he said the most pilot thing ever- "I don't know what it is, but I want to fly it." LMAO
Man, that Is good! Some people are born to fly.
Hell yeah I'd love to take that thing for a spin
@TOTAL RESISTANCE Yes, I believe so.
Lieutenant Fravor has a really good interview on Joe Rogan's podcast.
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I love how military officers on a mission call each other "bro" and "dude" lol
it’s just training to keep fly hours up to date. pilots a lot of the times are kids out of college. when i was deployed i debriefed a pilot after flying over Syria and he was blasting Rob Zombie in the cockpit.
Some of the formalities get thrown out so that info can get communicated in its simplest form. When you're calling in an air strike to a vehicle moving at supersonic speeds or just very fast you dont have time to say "Sir Goodmorning Sir" plus those pilots are peers and most likely friends.
In the 60's they used to call each other "babe". See the moon strange music video
U would
@@ghguevara "more human than human"?
Sad that the term “unidentified flying object” has to be defined because so many people instantly think/assume it means flying saucer/alien craft.
It has to be renamed because people figured out that it is just that and the last thing this government wants is the truth.
That’s because they perform intelligent manoeuvres that humans can only dream of.
Well maybe some of them move to fast. And high G force can kill human if move that fast
Usually, the correct answer with stuff like this is almost universally the boring one as well. Some previously unknown weather or atmospheric phenomena (or possibly a known one), sensor error, crud obscuring the sensor, etc.
If there is a super-advanced alien race out there, we probably give ourselves too much credit in that aliens would find us interesting and want to visit/check us out. (In the same way you don't stop to greet and study every ant colony you come across on a walk.)
@@KennyTheB LMFAO Are you kidding me? If I was an alien I would love to watch the shit show that is "Earth"
"Anything can be a UFO if you are exceptionally bad at identifying things."
There was a UK policeman that went to identify a strange light. It turned out to be the moon.
I've been flying general aviation airplanes for 50 years and more. Yeah, I'm old but I soloed at 16 before I could drive a car back in 1968. I never saw a UFO while flying in all those years. But as a sober eagle-eyed teenager while stargazing one clear evening I saw a "star" zig-zag up the sky moving and stopping on a dime before it faded out. The zig-zagging lasted for about a minute before it got dimmer and dimmer. Back in those days, we didn't have many satellites in orbit. We hadn't even been to the moon yet. Satellites don't zig-zag and stop, they go in arcs across the sky. I don't know what it was, but I can guess it wasn't one of ours.
orlock20 I’ve always been suspicious of that thing...
And when I can, I just call it what it is: a fucking SAUCER. I have thousands.....
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SO these NAVY pilots are exceptionally bad at identifying things?? is that what you are saying?? lol
its that manhole cover we shot off in the 50s at mach 204 finally coming back to earth
It got vaporised on the way up
It's searching for it's homeworld xD
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I thought it would be faster
😂
It's amazing how, down through the decades, these UFOs are always just at the very fringe of then-current tech. So, they used to be disks seen by eye far in the distance, then they were grainy photos taken at extreme distance. Now, the UFOs have become so sneaky that they are at the extreme sensitivity of advanced fighter jets. It's amazing how they keep up with our tech so we can never quite pin them down. Real smart, them aliens.
@J Rod r/woosh
@@SebastianWoodard Did J Rod flee in embarrassment.
Your sarcasm is warranted but their is a reason in that behaviour, they simply don't want to reveal too much because they know the result of each of their actions as they know the future, right now they're only giving us the material that would satisfy those who believe and keep everyone else guessing so to not cause widespread delirium.
Always at the fringe of current tech? Uhhhh....no.
Jets aren't faster than the used to be , they can travel further at speed but fighting is done at a lower speed , so no point having a jet so much faster than others , which is annoying I just want us flying out of the atmosphere at 22000 mph with selfies
8:45 - the closure speed (Vc) is a function of both the target's speed/heading as well the Hornet's speed/heading. So a closure speed of 210 knots does not mean the target object is "going really fast." It simply means the angles and speed component of BOTH objects has a closure speed of +210 knots.
This closure speed is consistent with a bird/duck flying at around 30 knots.
Someone also once pointed out that he is looking down onto the UAP so that might also cause some level of visual confusion due to displacement I think?
Also, the jet itself has 25k feet altitude (4.7miles), watching an object 35 degrees below flying at the distance of 3.4 miles away from the jet. Yet people claim the object in the video is flying close to the water. I wonder how people passed school if they skipped trigonometry.
Did you discover this yourself or did you copy and paste it from a Thunderfoot video?
Yeah i saw that same thunderfoot video where he also claimed to have seen obvious flapping wings on that "go fast" object. I assume because he wanted it to be a duck so badly that his brain created wings out of nothing.
By the way, what kind of duck has a lower body temperature than ocean water?
And suddenly all the numbers on the HUD make sense to me.
Same,u learn something new everyday
Yet it isn’t the hud
Go try the F/A-18C in Digital Combat Simulator and you'll learn a lot more.
@@olafurmikaelsson4794 bro what is it called then?
SIDHANT JASROTIA what we’re seeing here is the targeting pod. The HUD is up on top of the instrument panel eye level looking forward.
8:06 did you just acknowledge a WSO was doing a good job? Oh God these are truly the end of the times.
*these
@@randompheidoleminor3011 whoops, true. My bad.
Dogs and cats living together!
See? WSOs aren’t _totally_ useless...
@@Name-ps9fx they make good flares
“Here comes the Air Force with those new round planes”
Just because it looks roundish on fuzzy camera doesn't mean it is round.
Leslie Nielsen 😂
"new"..... The Nazi's had built prototypes of flying saucers.
its a quote from scary movie 3
@@mayhemassault Thank you for getting my reference 👍🏼
Critical thinking, intelligent diagnosis, and common sense, how refreshing! It's great to hear someone say that they don't know instead of making up some nonsense. Thumbs up!
Pilots: **Sees a UFO**
Also the pilots: aAHaEAeaAHAEeaaeheaeaaeehaaeeaAEAHaHEhahe
🤣🤣🤣👍😎
Omg.! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
aha ha ha
Haha
OOHHHHH GOOOT IIITTT!!!!
It’s just the boys over at DARPA playing with their new toys.
@Jim cola 3,836.35 MPH looks fast from any direction
@@ericprothero6080 I wasnt referring to other craft in history only this one!
@@ericprothero6080 Name one, and provide it in its original language.
Eric Prothero wow man it was a joke
@@reggiecactus2810 dude must be a chem trail sniffing flat earther 🤔
Great breakdown, but what's even more interesting is Mover goes from, kind, fun-loving, and relaxed to LOCKED IN and stone faced as soon as he's watching footage. You can tell this man was NOT PLAYING AROUND when he was active duty. So cool! Thank you so much for your service btw!
My father is almost 80 y.o now. I was talking to him about UFO's one day and he told me about an incident that occurred when he was 9 y.o. It was a hot afternoon in Sirohi Village, Rajasthan, India, he was flying a kite when he saw a light ball coming down at an incredible pace. My Father pointed towards it and yelled "what's that?" in our native language to his peers and as soon as he did that it went into the sky at the same incredible pace it was descending earlier. All this happened in a second or two.
My father is a doctor by profession with the least interest in aviation, military, aerospace, extraterrestrial, etc. So this account of him holds great significance for me. What boggles my mind is the fact that Bob Lazar on the JR podcast described the flight characteristic of a spaceship/aircraft he worked upon in Area 51 and it is exactly the same as the one described by my father.
Many other people over the internet who have sighted UFO's also describe their flight path as having the exact same pattern. Shooting down from the sky and then shooting back up. A RUclipsr psychologist also analyzed that podcast and came to the verdict that Bob Lazar was not lying according to psychological principles.
To conclude all I want to say is that craft shown in this video is 100% true. Moreover, chances are it is existing since the 1950s.
If they are extraterrestrial then I don't fear them because they could have taken out mankind a long time ago. If it is military technology then it's the world's best-kept secret and why it wouldn't be one? When you got a craft so advance that enemy can never see it or have any clue about it, which can move in the air without any limitation of gravity. What kind of moron will disclose any information about it? At present time, as few as 5 of these crafts can have a significant impact on any kind of conflict, and this assumption is just based on its flight characteristics very few people may know what other technologies it might have.
It's very difficult to know what to do with such radical new information... I am always thankful that I don't believe in God because otherwise I would have to try to become a priest! If I start to believe Aliens are here, what do I do?? Carry on as usual? My mother tells me a story about two colleges of hers, very down to earth people. They were walking to work one day when something huge and all lit up suddenly descended rapidly out of the sky to just above the tree line near them, and then shot off again. And that's it. They lived their lives as before, except they kept reccounting the story to anyone who would listen.
imagine if there was a sticker on the back of it saying "made in china"
Jimmy Recard wouldnt b suprised tbh
Sunamer Z but they did even though it was only like 1 i think
It would be spraying Coronavirus if it was
Damn I knew it !
@Sunamer Z build*
One thing I've learned from using "FLiR" as an infantryman, is that anything can look like anything sometimes. Using the AN PAS13s back in 05 was great. It was an absolute game changer at night. But man, when you're riding in the back of a 7 ton waiting to get hit, or standing post using them to scan the area, things look funky sometimes. It's like that scary dude in the dark you know is there, then when you turn the light on its a coat rack. Is that a T-72 over there past that berm? Or is it a pile of dirt and rubble with a pipe sticking out?
Right. On the ground there can be countless things that you pick up. But in the air, its a whole other story. There should not be large 40ft objects up there defying the laws of aviation. Moreover, these objects were spotted by air to air radar, ground to air radar, FLIR cameras and visual contact. These were not just funky looking objects. They were very likely objects of extraterrestrial origin
@@plr2473 Why do you jump straight from what we know to the least likely explanation? Literally any terrestrial explanation is more likely than that this is an alien object. Start with 'unknown aircraft' and work your way down.
They are using this whole alien thing to prepare for project blue beam
@@WG-tt6hk Then jesus christ yes it was a good thing you were never in the military. You don't just start blazing just because you don't know what it. You probably shouldn't even own a weapon. Discretion my dude.
How do you explain a clearly hot object being boxed? Isn't the whole purpose of a Flir in its precise ability to detect infrared? if so, how can you explain the hot object that was seen moving at tremendous speeds? (faster than the flir can slew)
The “ Skipper “ gave the perfect Military answer . “ It is above his pay grade and he does not know” best answer you can give. 😂😂😂
Right, Just because we don’t know what this is doesn’t mean its aliens .
@@b3at2 actually if you’re an actual alien believer like me, you would already know for a fact that the tic tac craft and the triangular (they’re known as wedge shaped) craft are indeed USA gravitic tech.
@@addamriley5452 Which pilots are using this tech thats using over 10 machs?
@@addamriley5452 And a 'fact' ok please sources 🤘
10:12 Wouldn't the missile show a large exhaust plume on the opposite side it's traveling?
Not necessarily, Cruise missiles operate by gliding at subsonic speed. I don't think it's a cruise missile, but it's certainly a plausible explanation in this case.
If its a regular rocket engine missile the "plume" is very short lasting since the engine burns only a few seconds after launch.
Depends what techs out there.
@@brankomilicevic6904 the entire lifetime of a missile is in the range of seconds. The rocket motor is firing long enough to be visible. And the air friction makes the body of the missile heat up and shine on thermal imaging.
I mean, most missiles tend to burn then glide
I saw a UFO over our US Air Force base in the autumn of 1964.
I worked in Base Operations at James Connally Air Force Base which was near Waco, Texas. Our office was a 24/7 operation and that night I had the midnight shift (11pm to 7am). So I got my normal 9 hours of sleep, stopped by the chow hall for a late dinner and left at about 10:45pm to walk a couple blocks to the control tower (our offices were on the ground floor).
The route I was taking toward the control tower took me down the main road which is wide enough for parade formations to march. The road was lined on either side by various single-story office buildings. It was a quiet October evening and no flights were scheduled that evening, so the area was *very* quiet.
Suddenly, something up in the air to my left caught my attention. It was some sort of craft that was making absolutely no sound at all as it slowly moved from my left to my right. The shape was tubular (think generally of a submarine but without a conning tower). It had no on-board lights of its own like all aircraft have but the surface material (whatever it was) was reflecting the various lights of the base: streets, runways, taxiways, offices, barracks, etc. As it moved I could see that the surface was not at all uniformly smooth but instead rippled periodically as though there was some sort of internal framework that had external surface plates attached by rivets, screws, welds, glue, who knows what.
I could not tell what size it was since I had never seen one of these before and there was nothing near it from which to get an idea of scale, but I had the *feeling* that it was quite large. And, no, it was not the Goodyear Blimp or anything else because (1) blimps don't fly cross country at night and (2) blimp engines make a lot of noise, and (3) no aircraft are allowed to fly over an Air Force base without permission. It moved slowly until the buildings on my right cut off my view.
I quickly ran the remaining couple hundred yards to my office then picked up the hot phone to the radar building. When they answered, they told me that since no aircraft were known to be in the area that no one was watching the radar screens, and in fact, everyone was playing a game of poker! And for the same reason, since there were no flights in the area, no one up in the control tower was looking out the windows until I called them, too. Plus, the path of the unknown craft was not over the flight line, but instead, while parallel to the flight line was above and a bit behind the control tower so even if someone was looking out toward the runways, they probably would not have seen the craft moving above and behind them. Of course, when I alerted everyone, they looked around with radar and binoculars but no one else saw anything.
The next morning when I got back to my barracks, I was still very excited so told my two roommates about what I saw. One of them worked nights at WACO radio as a disk jockey and that night when he went on the air, he broke the news. Oh, boy did the poop hit the propeller! I was called on the carpet by the base commander for telling the news media that the Air Force reported seeing a UFO! I just told him what I saw and what happened as I've outlined here. A couple days later several officers and civilians from Washington, DC flew in to interview me. I told them the same thing and after a while it all sort of died down. Eventually, the base was closed and I was transferred to Japan to work in the Far East Command Post at Tachikawa Air Force Base out west of Tokyo.
Terry Thomas
US Air Force Veteran
Atlanta, Georgia USA
@@mattb6095
Visually, yes, that could have happened. But that night, no construction was going on.
Very interesting, thanks for posting that.
Sounds very mysterious
Nice, a fellow base ops guy! I worked in base ops (now airfield management) from 2001-2005 at Cannon AFB.
@@joeg5414 Cool beans! You guys probably had real computers for flight following. We did it all with Teletype machines. Once a flight plan was filed, we would use the Teletype to send the information to Fort Worth Center and they would track the flight and also notify the destination field. The reverse worked for us... when a flight was coming our way, we would get a Teletype message then use chalk to write the flight info on the board until it arrived.
We had several civilians who worked with us in Base Ops. When I arrived, I found out that they really wanted to be at home with their wives and family and hated working the 11pm to 7am shift. So I would swap with them which freed up my days. That free time allowed me to go to college at Baylor University in downtown Waco to study photojournalism. I also created photographs for the base newspaper. I won the President Lyndon Johnson Award for Military Photojournalism in 1965 which created a bit of a dustup because I wasn't actually a military photojournalist, I worked in Base Ops
While I was stationed at James Connally AFB in '64 and '65, our main mission was to turn out navigators to send to Vietnam. I often wonder how many of those fine young men made it back... most I hope.
JCAFB also featured a runway capable of handling Air Force One so in later years (long after I left) when either of the Bush Presidents wanted to fly to their ranches, they had to fly in then switch to other aircraft for the final leg of the flight. I never experienced anything like that but I bet all concerned were uptight on those days. LOL!
I was transferred to Tachikawa when the Vietnam War was heating up and *thought* I was going to be working at Base Ops there. Actually, I found out I was assigned to the Far East Command Post which handled everything going from the states to the Far East, mostly by the Great Circle route. A lot of stuff in and out of McCord in Seattle and also Travis in California. The flights would eventually end up in the Philippine Islands at Clark AFB then the personnel and cargo would be sent to where they were needed for the war.
Once established at Tachi in January '66, I let the command newspaper (The Kanto Plainsman) know that I would be available for photojournalism assignments any time I was off duty. They were thrilled and the guys in the Photo Lab didn't care one bit because they were told they had to be photojournalists with 4x5" Speed Graphics and flashbulbs! Meanwhile, I had purchased a 35mm Nikon kit in Texas and bought more Nikon gear as soon as I got to Japan. So I had motor drives, wide angle and zoom lenses so could handle sports and editorial photography quite well. I must have because I won several Pentagon awards for photojournalism during my two years there.
50+ years later and I'm still working as a photographer.
Good times...
Later,
Terry
My UFO story from when I was in the US Navy 2000-2004
On Jul 4, 2003, I was on a Destroyer doing a UNITAS around Central/South America (~50mi off the coast of Ecuador IIRC). We had a "fantail party" to celebrate the 4th with BBQ and music, and they even shot some starburst rounds out of the 5" cannons for "fireworks" at dusk. Almost immediately after the starburst rounds, people were hanging out for the BBQ, and five of us were standing next to each other just shooting the sh|t; and I noticed an extremely bright light similar to Venus, or a landing light on an aircraft, ~15 degrees above the horizon. It didn't look like it was moving; but it was hard to tell in the open ocean, and I had no reference for range/altitude.
After several minutes, the light was still in the same area, and I started to wonder if it was our helo (which was out doing exercises) coming in for landing. Then at around twilight, we started wrapping up the party and I took one last look, and even asked my shipmates what they thought it could be, since the helo would have landed by that time. Then, almost on queue as we were looking/talking about it, it shot straight up at a speed I've never seen and faded out, all within a second.
We all looked at each other saying/thinking "WTF??" as we couldn't explain what it could have been. It definitely wasn't an manned aircraft, as the G forces and load would have made it disintegrate going from zero to many hundreds of mph in a fraction of a second. Although I do lean towards a drone of some sort; at the speed it was moving there should have been a sonic boom, and I'm pretty sure it went out of the atmosphere at the rate it was moving; but it was silence. To this day I can't explain it, and my friends that witnessed it never wanted to talk about it.
They’ve found a way to manipulate gravity, which is how they are able to move so fast without fear of G forces, sonic booms, airframe destruction, etc. It’s the only real explanation if you think about it. Even if some other planet had some crazy propulsion system that could move aircraft at those speeds, you’d still have the G forces and noise while moving through the air. Whichever country figures out how to manipulate gravity first, their military will dominate and be essentially untouchable
Youre not alone man, myself too seen one around the vicinity of my installation it dropped altitude rapidly. It had the brilliance of a bright blue hovering star. For 60 seconds it outshined every star in the sky. Then it shifted to a white brilliance and shot off into space like a bullet. This happened in October 2012 at fort Campbell. We have a dark history of them turning on our nukes in our bunkers from up high.
@@wooski9022 who is they? the only private entity working on developing technology and physics to harness the negative energy from the vaccum of space is earthtech international. We haven't cracked gravity.. The DIRDS (Defense intelligence reference documents) produced in AATIP by the DIA for the Pentagon support its not ours. We havent got a way yet to harness the negative energy in the polarizable vaccum of space. Were close though, that last test to harness it from the Casamir effect took place in 2018 by Hal Puthoff at earthtech international. The journal publishing stated it failed. He is one of the Pentagons AATIP advisors and also the President/CEO of Earthtech International. His chief science advisor is Dr Eric Davis who wrote 5 of the 38 DIRDS produced for the Pentagon. Those DIRDS are published on the Earthtech Internationals website for anyone to receive.
However spinning superconductor test were done in 1999 by NASA according to a paper Hal Puthoff wrote. Test results revealed a reduction of mass and gravity.
If all else id believe based on sciece publishings ive seen and read, we have weight reduction technology utilizing craft with spinning superconductors. However the latter does not, unless highly classified. Steve Justice and Hal Puthoff are working on building craft using space time metric engineering for TTSA from reverse engineered UFO debris. A CRADA was signed with the Army to test those materials in 2019 made news everywhere.
The NYT is also currently producing a huge article to reference a Government UFO crash retrieval program where we have material and (potentially) bodies. Im being serious on that, hang tight. I can't disclose further information in that area. It will be a surprise for all.
Tim Speer I’d like to see that!
Dude, I've seen this exact thing but differnet environment
It’s just the mods, keeping tab on our simulation.
HIt the server restart plzz -Humans to Mods
It's just our neighbors stopping by to take a dip in our pool and fill up their gas tanks.
The mods have totally lost control if thats true...or they went to 4chan to recruit mods🙈
they would be simulated too
Nope.
Next you should comment on the interviews with the pilots who came forward
Next you should accept that there aren't any aliens and you're being silly 😂
@@Theduckwebcomics There likely are aliens out there. With how many planets and stars there are, it would be more surprising if there weren't any with intelligent life. However, the government definitely isn't sitting on evidence of their existence. The only way aliens could have already had interactions with earth is in the sense of them doing things that can't ever be verified as true. A good example would probably be the Grinning Man stories. No one could ever definitively prove those stories, because they don't damage anything, and only show themselves to isolated individuals. There also some stories which seem like examples of aliens having the same type of shitty coworkers we all have known, which I would love to be true just for how hilarious it would be
Aliens, corona and asian hornets....2020 is becoming more and more like a movie😂
Cj Yùng don’t forget about Australia on fire 😂
Cj Yùng +US-Iran and US-China tensions
@@Kevin_the_minion8 wouldn't really consider that funny
@@thenickfoxx there's so much batshit flying around it's pretty much a joke in itself.
Also don't forget about the Amazon and Siberian fires. And the Great Barrier Reef's mass bleaching. Then the bloody hurricanes and typhoons. It'd suck if one appeared outta nowhere in the middle of this pandemic eh.
unknown There are always tensions between countries. It’s pretty common eh.
_' I've never seen a UFO , but I saw something didn't know what it was !!! '_
Thanks for explaining the flight display screen
That is an Unidentified Flying Object in another words a UFO!
When you see a contrail in the sky you often can't see the plane but that doesn't mean u don't know what it is. When it could easily be a balloon, drone, bird whatever u don't really call it a ufo just because u couldn't see the object clearly. Pretty sure that's what he means. Pilots would see ufo's on every flight by the standard your suggesting. The Cool World's channel did a great breakdown on what we're seeing in these videos and exactly why they behave the way they do. It's basically perspective, camera artifacts and spatial disorientation by the pilot. Perspective can make all kinds of mundane things seem unusual at first glance.
The problem is the speed these objects are moving at....the object moving across the water is going at a incredible speed... which makes his argument of a drone ridiculous and same with the object in the sky moving at insane speeds and a very odd shape...this can't be easily explained and is interesting...
@@darrendawson1339 What makes you think that the objects are moving fast? If it's because it just looks like they are then you should know that humans beings can't judge speed without knowing several other factors and even then only with training. The jets are moving fast. The objects are not moving fast, its a well understood and well documented optical illusion. One of the objects was nearly stationary, the pilot was disoriented and didn't realize he was just flying a big circle around a very slow moving object. He thought it was mirroring his moves, he was wrong. The rotating diamond one is likely the heat plume from a very far away jet. The rotation is cause by the gimbal lock on his imaging pod. The distance is the reason it only showed up on flir and not radar as it was out of range. You should really watch the CoolWorlds video on this. It literally explains every feature with mundane explanations. Things that are absolutely proven to happen. Or I guess it could be aliens that some how got here and somehow have magic tech that we can't even guess how could realistically work. Or secret aircraft, because if the military has happened on some kind of physics breaking technology they would keep it secret. Yeah they just want to give our adversaries a chance to catch up and develop the same tech so we'll be in a fair fight. And who wants to revolutionize technology, energy production, transportation anyway? Thats way over rated.. Does that really sound likely? I know it would be cool if it was aliens but it's just not. And we should be happy because if it was they don't have good intentions and basically control the laws of physics. Also if there are 2 technological civilizations living close enough in space and time to contact each other then that would almost certainly mean that intelligence is everywhere. And likely has been for a very very long time. Why do we not see any evidence of that? It should be painted across the night sky and buried in our geologic record from all the visits that should have happened. Aliens flying around our skies, occasionally crashing and molesting our cows and country folk just makes so many different kinds of no sense. That's actually a good thing.
@@allineedis1mike81 there is video of the two pilots who talk about the object GO FAST because of the amazing speed it was traveling...it was incredible work to even get the object in it's camera's and the pilot who is retired now and was one of the top in his field explain how he was able to circle to get a glimpse of the tic tac shaped object...he explained how it knew they were there and took a hard bank to the right leaving them in complete awe of the speed in which it was traveling...these men were veterans and highly skilled...listen to the voice audio of the pilot he was amazed by what they seen...I'm not suggesting they were aliens and Ethier were the fighter pilots...very interesting video none the less...
“That’s interesting i’ts colder than the ocean...... it’s probably a missile” ??????
Could be exceptionally warm water too.
@@shanejohns7901 yes missile hot water /smh
@@gwills9337 I don't understand why people always assume ocean water is freezing cold. Google "ocean temperatures" and you will see that ocean temps range from 28-86 degrees F (-2 to 30 degrees C).
@@shanejohns7901 yeah and the thrust of a missile is hundreds of degrees, so whats your point, and off the socal coast the water is pretty cold, ive surfed it year round
@@mainsource8030 So glad we have you here to point out the obvious. (blocked)
When these videos were first released, they got less press coverage than Tom Brady's football air pressure.
They were talking about the newer navy videos on the Today show, which is big for this topic. I'm predicting the UFO report in July will make the Nightly News and more. Nobody will care until they show the good stuff though.
Because a drone / balloon isn't all that interesting.
But luckily we have morons in abundance who ate it right up.
There's a pretty good story on Joe Rogan's podcast from Cmdr David Fravor, retired Navy fighter pilot. He ran into one of these back in 2004 and just recalls the event. Highly recommend the watch.
Yup. Watch that interview and tell us what you think
The third clip here (the clearest) was Fravor's incident, you can also hear his voice on the soundtrack. But I agree here with CW Lemoine, looking at just these videos, ignoring the sound track or whatever else has been said elsewhere, it ain't much to go on. Just aerial contacts of unknown size, mostly just an IR signal and, in the case of two of the three clips here, no ranging data, so we don't know what size, how far and hence how fast. Also, looking at the apparent speed of the objects against the background (of either water or sky) tells you little about the absolute velocity of the object because what you're seeing is a moving line-of-sight between a moving F18 and a distant object it's tracking.
Yea, I think he described how they originally saw it too. He should def check it out.
Yes, watch Rogan podcast with Cmdr David Fravor.
Cmdr is a bullshit artist. He mentions on many occasions that he likes to mess with people when it comes to aliens and UFO.
As for this video it is clearly a bug/ insect on the camera lens. Looks like a cricket.
Mover: I’ve never seen a UFO “whilst flying”... 🤔
Thats something a under cover alien would say......
Sounds sus
not every pilot is lucky to meet one , same as saying not every hunter has experienced a sasquatch sighting
@@jamesjdm are we calling an emergency meeting?
Because he was the one flying it
Can you do a follow up with information from the pilots etc on 60minutes about this?
You can tell he did that video just bc he was asked too many times so I don't think he even cares to do a follow up on this. Not his kind of thing.
Have you seen the interview with Alex Dietrich? She was flying in the F/A18 SH behind David Flavor, and she has stated she did not see or agree with Favors' claims. Alex completely debunks his UFO sightings. Here is a link: ruclips.net/video/uwZU6RiTEAw/видео.html
12:11 "nothing all that special about it" lol except for the other pilot who saw it from another plane, who watched it do radical moves for 5 minutes, then disapearing in front of his eyes and it relocated 60 miles in a few seconds. He later said on fox news "I am of the opinion it was not of this world"
For the first video, the missile/drone explanations make no sense. Tell me how you can move at 210 knots without a heat signature? It was cooler than the surroundings...
This dude literally flew the same aircraft they were using, gave plenty of explanations. I don’t think it’s ET at all.
He sounds jelly.
Except if it is an anomaly, which is the most likely explanation, then it didn't actually do that, that is his interpretation of what he saw and what the system recorded. What if it was a bug squashed into the front of the pod? When it disappeared off to the left it was just the bug getting flicked off? If the ranging was off then everything else was off too. Speed, size, motion it all depends on accurate ranging.
@@Celtic_Thylacine woah buddy i think you may be onto something... you should definately write to Raytheon and tell them them their systems are rubbish 😆😆 while you are at it may as well write to Cmdr David Fravor and tell him he is an idiot too😆😆
He didn’t disclose the paid promotion from the CIA
@Scouts Honor If you actually believe either of these things you're referring to, please leave.
@@blarghinatelazer9394
Update: My misunderstanding; I thought you were referring to the OP about a CIA/UFO conspiracy. I think you're pretty blind if you cannot see the questions around 911. There is near universal consensus among physics folk that what happened on 911 is impossible if you accept the "official" narrative. Doesn't mean anyone knows what really happened, only means that you need to be a pretty trusting or gullible person to continue accepting the official story. We need to keep pushing until we find the truth.
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Right? Kind of like "Coronavirus is a secret weapon"... only it doesn't actually kill anything any more than the common flu. Everyone wants a conspiracy.
@CoDGplays Shut the fuck up you idiot.
@AIG Yeah... funny how some folks get really angry when other people question official narratives. 911 is extremely difficult for these folks; cognitive dissonance is painful and the easiest solution is to simply lash out at whoever is causing the discomfort.
There's a full interview of the exact navy pilot who encountered this on the Joe Rogan's show.. Search for Cmdr. David Fravor interview
john smith it’s from another plane not the man on the Joe Rogan podcast, he was the one chasing it with his wingman. If eyes could record video imagine what we would see
There’s also interviews with personnel involved on the ships.
He also works for the academy to the stars which is BS alien foundation
@john smith The 2004 Nimitz flir video was taken AFTER David Fravor's encounter with a different plane of ONE of the radar signatures observed by U.S. spy radar onboard the Princeton and Nimitz.
However, all 4 airmen claim to visually observed the object with their own eyes on that incident
Id' love to see an interview with @C.W. Lemoine and David Fravor
Would love to see you have a face to face discussion with the pilots who witnessed this.
You can't: the pilot will always believe he saw what he believed he saw. The Russian pilot who shot down the Korean airliner swears to this day he saw a radar dish on the roof. He honesty believed he saw it before he pulled the trigger. Having that conversation now makes no difference to anyone.
David Fravor was one of the pilots who encountered it. If you search him here in YT there’s several interviews where he explains his point of view on what happened that day.
Fravor wasn’t alone, there were four witnesses all together and two of them came forward to talk about it. Watch the 60 minutes episode. It’s great.
Your voice is hushed while the pilots’ voices are super loud. The video is this almost painful to listen to although helps to understand more detail on the screens.
Have you seen the interview with Alex Dietrich? She was flying in the F/A18 SH behind David Flavor, and she has stated she did not see or agree with Favors' claims. Alex completely debunks his UFO sightings. Here is a link: ruclips.net/video/uwZU6RiTEAw/видео.html
At 13:45 note that the entire image shakes each time the object begins to rotate. This indicates to me the apparent rotation is actually something to do with the tracking telescope, not the object itself. I suspect it's something like the turret ball is approaching a physical stop or limit and has to reorient to maintain track, causing the overexposed and bloomed image (elongated due to some asymmetry in the imaging system) to rotate.
I seem to remember there being somewhat of a tradition of classified equipment of our own being used to mess with our own people.
Such as the Test pilot of the Bell P-59 Airacomet wearing a gorilla costume and getting a kick out of bomber and P-40 pilots reporting a propellerless aircraft with a hairy man in the cockpit.
I think there is even stories of the F-117 test pilots giving people a peak before speeding off
which gave rise to all the “diamond shape” ufo sightings in the 80’s.
It might be a Air Force drone dicking around with the navy.
I Know I Would (TM) ;-)
It makes some sense if you think about it.
Wanna find out just how difficult your experimental craft is to find? Run it by some of your own army/airforce/navy, see what, if anything, they find.
D'oh. Teach me to read through the comments before posting. I just posted about Jack Woolams and his gorilla outfit...
At that speed without thrusters is intriguing. I don't know any technology at that level or even close.
"I think there is even stories of the F-117 test pilots giving people a peak before speeding off which gave rise to all the “diamond shape” ufo sightings in the 80’s."
Exactly!! As a kid i always look up the shape and details of the UFO's... if you see pictures of the 50's, a UFO with tec of that decade,etc. Now, Smartphones kill them haha. But probably should look like the space ships of "arrival".
10:10 when you say 'not a large object', what is large? a bus, car, airbus 380, aircraft carrier, jetski??
More like a big bird... Like a Duck.
@@IronFreee When is the last time you saw a duck fly over 240 mph?
@@monolithofwoe4366 *drone/rocket
@@monolithofwoe4366 Unless I'm misinterpreting something the v_c is the relative speed. The Hornet is flying at >400 kt so most of those 240 mph are because of that. If you do the trigonometry you'll get a speed of 60 kt for the bird, which is fast but perfectly achievable with a tailwind of ~30 kt which is quite typical for 12000 feet.
@@monolithofwoe4366 Its closing speed. If the Hornet is doing 240 mph towards the duck the duck could be standing still and still show 240mph.
To everyone- The display has an option to select how a target is displayed. Look at the bottom of the display, just left of center and look for "BLK" or "WHT" before deciding whether the target is hot or cold. The overall relative brightness can also be adjusted.
1) It's a balloon that looks like it's going fast because the jet is going fast
2/3) It's a plane
and what they definitely aren't, are aliens lmao
the real answer is its a goose, theres better videos that actually break it down and prove it 100%
This exactly.
@@futurefox635 a Goose without wings hmmk
He said the object was going fast because it had a closure rate of around 200 knots, but never took into account the airspeed of the fighter heading towards it at a viewing angle of 45 degrees... sheesh.
Lemione trying to not break his non-disclosure agreement:
aafnohu 69 I can’t tell are you being sarcastic or you are you that stupid?
He doesn't want the MIBs showing up at his house.
There's also an interesting interview with one of the involved pilots: ruclips.net/video/Eco2s3-0zsQ/видео.html
madvillain3000 thanks for the link gonna watch
Pensions matter!
WIHZO: Wooohoo! Found him! OMG!
PILOT: Roger, weapons ready. Engaging. Fox 2.
LMAO
*WSO
That is one easy way to figure out what it is :D
Either DARPA would come whining about having their toy destroyed, some guys complaining about a missing airliner or GA aircraft. :D
Good luck with a Fox-2 heater. that thing is COLD. it's glowing White on a BLACK-HOT mode lol
*Ripper 2-1 this is 2-5 engaging hostile.
Nice to see a pilot who isn't involved in the UFO circus talk about this.
The explanation of the different IR modes and operation of the pods was really interesting and helpful. There was another video being circulated with these that showed triangular lights over a bay. This one was debunked by someone with knowledge that the shutter on that particular camera was triangular and when the shutter is partially closed it has the effect of forming light patterns into triangles and the video was actually just a commercial aircraft at night.
Not only that, they identified the specific airline and flight # of the "lights" in the "Triangle UFO Video." But, no-one seems to interested in that, they just want believe... I get it, but after decades of the same poor quality of evidence I think the verdict is pretty clear.
8:06 - did Mover just say "a WSO did a pretty good job?"
Nicolae Ionescu YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST... HE DID!!!
That's one WSO that won't be used as the last flare.
Matt Boggs is that the Yellow & Black stripped countermeasures lever???
@@GhostWatcher2024 Yeah I'm pretty sure he was talking about the pilot
" There's a starman, waiting in the sky. "
" he'd like to come and meet us, but he think he blow our mind .. "
Really? But I thought you didn't know what time it was, and the lights were low - ow - ow?
@@Declan-pg8cg i think ur culture is poor my friend aha
@@Ad___Astra What? What has that got to do with my comment?
@@Declan-pg8cg precisely, I did not understand the purpose of your comment either eh eh
There's a starman waiting in the sky
He's told us not to blow it
Cause he knows it's all worthwhile
My dad was in the Air Force as a traffic controller in the mid 50s at Sweetwater Air Station in Texas and had told me a few stories of arranging intercepts on UFOs. He would say, “it’s always interesting that the Target would only let the F86s get so close, then they would speed away at high speed”
Yes...he told you stories.
@@williamwilson6499 the man never told a “story” or a lie in his life...
@@williamwilson6499 Everything is a story when you aren't there. This includes, for you, apparently, the entire world around you that you can't be present in. We are intelligent beings (some of us) and can use our judicial analysis to comb through patterns and evidence and find things that stand out. But some of us are the type of people who have the answer to begin with--they start from an absolute premise (there are no ufos, ObViOsLy) and dismiss all data contradicting their premise.
The first one kinda seems like a training device. The guy was so happy when he locked onto it and not worried at all that it might be a threat. Like, "YAY I passed the test!"
They didn't sound scared or afraid of it, that's for sure.
@@ralphholiman7401 kinda hard to get pilots to be afraid of things like that, especially when the most exciting thing they see is water. The radar techs also tracked it at 33,000mph in the ship, from 2 completely different radars. 0-max speed instant acceleration and could stop instantly. Watch The Nimitz encounter documentary
Didn’t u hear him saying “wtf is that?” and the explanation by lemoine why the guy was excited?
@@SJ-wj8zz I just don't think on duty military pilots get giddy when they see unidentified vehicles which could potentially be enemy weapons. Especially ones that apparently completely outclass their own vessel. They would be very nervous.
@@robarmstrong5404 ,0 - 33,000 mph, instantly. Wouldn't that be the biggest part of the story if it was true?
The pilot from the Nimitz Encounter actually spoke on JRE
He also spoke on the Fighter Pilot Podcast, which is a more technical view into the encounter. I highly recommend checking it out!
ruclips.net/video/dvfRRgFHSRE/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/Eco2s3-0zsQ/видео.html
Which episode #?
ruclips.net/video/Eco2s3-0zsQ/видео.html #1361
Roger Barraud 1361
Good wrap up, the AT FLIR is also the worst pod currently fielded in terms of image clarity for what it’s worth.
@@anthonyc5039 I think the point was more so that we're still in the dark on these things as the only source we have is the AT FLIR footage, thus leaving this unidentified for us.
Deuce Dufresne
According to the guys involved with these sightings, the original video was much clearer. It’s been blurred a bit.
@@vukpsodorov5446 that doesn't make sense , these are not unidentified objects they aircrafts intelligentaly manouvering specificly and that's the real question who made them and where did they come from
Fun note from someone who launches weather balloons. They can fly to 100,000ft + MSLP. They expand with height so they can be large. Very neat to hear you have seen them flying.
Makes me think about the late admiral Byrd and what he said he discovered in Antarctic and highjump
He definitely saw something
@@gucciraccoon1612 Yep, mountains, icebergs and penguins.
Everyone thinks I'm crazy when I talk about it, but I think David Icke has gotten a lot of stuff right. Those things flying in the sky are just us, a part of a vast empire that stretches across the stars. Some of us live in the dirt wondering why we are here, and others live lavishly in the comfort of societies we'll never understand, flying and driving vehicles that even our brightest minds couldn't reverse engineer.
The only thing to fear is fear itself.
@@colonelgutsy2177 deplatforming someone proves their point even more
@@cdcarias95 No it doesn't. Only to those who want to believe.. "THEY DEPLATFORMED HIM HE MUST BE RIGHT!" is a leap of logic that demands that the person doing the leap has already made up their minds about what is and what is not real. David Icke is an adept charlatan and probably not fully right in the head.
Also, he didn't get deplatformed, he broke the youtube rules, enough people have had their fill of his bullshit, a lot of conspiracy nuts got sorted out about the same time as Icke did. RUclips essentially just found a good time to do a culling of lunatics. Alex Jones was the first to get shafted, then there were more who followed.
I'm not personally in favor of youtube banning folks. But I have no issues with seeing why. It's not because he was right, it was because his presence is poison for the platform. No platform owner wants lunatics to be amongst the bigger contributors. These types of cullings make the believers believe harder, but that's just how it goes.
Alex Jones wasn't more correct just cause he got thrown off the platform. He just outstayed his welcome, and RUclips saw their chance to kick him off once all the conspiracy nuts started turning towards terrorism and insane acts of lunacy.
4:30 "A little blurry" Must have been Bigfoots plane.
That's what you get when you try to record video on a 🥔
@Penumbra Same with my Bigfoot photos. The man is always trying to keep secrets.
After spending around 23 looking at the phenomenon, I'll say this...
99% of what we see, that's deemed "unidentified", is man made. There are varying degrees or layers of the populace who can go from either not knowing a 737, if it's right in front of them; all the way to individuals who are trained in aircraft recognition. Most people get things completely wrong. After that, mistakes can be made by others as well. However, some things (still within that 99%), are not recognizable to 99% of us. The U.S., in particular, has spent untold billions on black projects and dark aircraft, since the mid 1950's. Things have gotten more exotic and "odd", as time has progressed. And yes, those who "test" these crafts, do intentionally fly them over or through certain areas, to test their visual or electronic footprint. "Area 51" (official designation: Air Force Flight Test Center, Detachment 3) gets more funding per year, than most militaries in the world. So yes, 99% of what we see, are things being tested for future usages. Technologies that are, or would seem, 20-30 years ahead of where we currently are.
The low flying one is most probably a bird. ruclips.net/video/mfhAC2YiYHs/видео.html
tl;dr
Give away would be its turn radius, if its pulling some insane G's, its unmanned. Wonder if there's a way for their aircraft to scan for the datalink.. jam it and see what the "UFO" does :D
I believe we've created some prototype platforms that are intentionally loaded with jamming, counter jamming, and various sorts of electronic counter measures (while making the craft non-stealth), in order to thoroughly test experimental the electronics/avionics. Thus getting "intentionally" intercepted.
This might be one of these types of drones/UAV, etc.
The smaller target (the one with the water in the background) might be a Boeing Insitu Scaneagle. Or a similar variant.
The Sentinel RQ 170 drone made its debut around 2007 ... I wonder if these aerial anomalies were a precursor to that platform, and smaller versions of drones were being tested. I'm likely to believe it is definitely skunkworks type aircraft highly classified.
Show me a drone that can go under water and then fly again.
You should check out the "Nimitz incident" and what Commander David Fravor has to say about it. That incident really stands out in my opinion
Wasn't that the tac video? He saw what we are seeing and he thought it was a lot closer than it really was. You have an actual fighter pilot, not a debunker, saying that it's nothing but a heat source. Mick West, who is a debunked, concluded that the object was not necessarily rotating, just the heat source, which is exactly what this pilot is saying. I find it interesting.
What I find just as interesting as the tic tac itself was the massive thing he and others saw just under the water where these tic tacs were operating. Something the size of a 737 just under the surface and we don't know what it is? Sounds like a potential national security threat to me..
Fravor is full of baloney. He’s making bank and celebrity by appealing to suckers.
@@williamwilson6499 it should be noted that he is the only one claiming that his UFO is extraterrestrial.
Mick West debunks the vid and Fravor’s take on it.
10:14 It was me running from my responsibilities
"oh my gosh!" These pilots are so polite.
Officers and gentlemen. 'Nuff said...
They are liars
@@honeysucklecat what makes you say that?
Lol no. They know everything is being recorded.
@@teutonalex so you know about the gravitic craft too yeah?
When he said "it's rotating" he meant the actual object in the video. It's sort of shaped like an umbrella and the top moves from straight up to the left as it rotates. I'm not familiar with IR mode but I'm not sure how the heat signature would change the shape of the object.
They had visual on it in addition to the pod. They saw it rotating, unless they are lying lol.
The heat signature is what we see.
Dude! U are not seeing the object... U are seeing the heat coming put of it
@@mjesticbeats7097 so why is the heat coming off it rotating? Is that the propulsion system?
@@freezingmoon75 Its not the heat thats rotating, its the lens. Have you seen cameras producing collideascope effects when looking at lights at night? Same thing.
Mick West and the Cool Worlds channel did a great breakdown on these. Just be careful in the comments section. People get a little uh... emotional about this topic.
Yes, the videos are entirely explainable... The gimbal is the most obvious, as the claim is made that the "object" (I agree w the hypothesis that this Black IR image of some kind of aircraft from behind and that the blob is the heat signature) just happens to rotate at the same time the gimbal rotates in order to keep tracking the target as he's coming out of a bank... I am not a fan of coincidences.
@@crazycontraptions1249 Some folks get very angry at debunkers.
Yea top gun pilot and his crewmates can't identify basic airplane.. Makes sense.
@@sonicextem3 Well, to me, it makes more sense than "Aliens" (not that you're claiming that, not starting a fight!) ... People, including experts, make mistakes all the time (I value expertise, but also know that experts are human). The thing to remember in the gimbal video is that the pilot did not have eyes on the target, he was looking at the video (well, his readouts) as the "object" was at the outside range of the FLIR... But, I think it's a mistake to try and explain eye witness testimony anyway as it's a starting place for any investigation, not really good evidence on its own.
@@christophercousins184Yea I got you. I worded my comment kinda rudely so I'm sorry about that. You are correct, that right now all we have are those videos and pilots testimonies. But I still believe that Fravor saw a real vehicle, that broke our known laws of physics, and which was spotted on radar on multiple systems, and in his own words "something not from this world". But I understand that we all make mistakes, even the best do. I hope the global pressure manages to push pentagon to release more data, so we can solve this mystery..
Always wondered how fighter jets record things. Love the fact that you explained the technical side of it.
There are much higher quality versions of these videos somewhere, or at least there should be if they didn't disappear.
My grandpa was a military pilot and then a captain for United till he retired . He is the most serious no bs straight edge person Iv ever seen in my life he doesn’t swear or drink. And since I was pretty young I remember him telling me about him seeing a UFO . Like a light fly up to the left side of the plane and and then around it to the other side and fly off . He doesn’t say it’s an alien or anything but it always blew my mind with that coming from him .
"They're in IR mode, so it may not be rotating, but the heat source is".
Whoa, that introduces interesting possibilities. That is the first time I've heard that observation.
The good old grainy and blurry "UFO" footage. Never fails to to be inconclusive every time
Well that goes without saying, because if it was conclusive, it wouldn't be an "Unidentified Flying Object" anymore.
@@mattboggs6304 I saw non grainy footage of it several months ago. Conclusion, its as unidentifiable as it gets.. It's a Tic-Tac ..
Then please explain which Earth nation has made the historical break thru of all time and solved the Grand unified theory of relativity to counter act Gravity and mass inertia to make an aerial craft that can travel 28,000 ft in .75 seconds and come to a complete stop 50 feet above the ocean - As recorded by the USS Princeton guided missile cruiser in the USS Nimitz battle group in 2004 = I will wait
@@spookyninja4098 Don't worry yourself about the close minded people on this planet, concerned only about when the next lame phone is coming out. Some people will never be capable to comprehend the big picture.
There's a ufo! Quickly use the worst camera you have!
@willl 88 FLIR cameras are amazing what are you talking about.
Are you a sad- or a happy clown??? These sensors are the Creme de la Creme of the USNavy and US Airforce. You missed the fact that these clips have been recorded by state of the art weapon systems.
It’s not a camera it’s a sensor
A few miles out traveling at a few hundred knots? That's a pretty good view.
Yeah, they are going to release the full quality of their imaging technology.
At this point, if aliens showed up and kidnapped me, I'd call it a rescue mission.
lmao good one
Being navy seeing this stuff was a common occurrence always fun to see
You mean seeing gravitic craft is common or people reporting them is common
@@addamriley5452 what is a gravitic craft?
@@jerome1lm it’s what the flying saucer type craft actually are... you have internal combustion craft (planes/rockets) and you have electro-magnetic gravitic craft (flying saucers)...
13:22 thats the floating one
@@bradygodsil5077 check found and explained in youtube
Awesome breakdown of the FLIR HUD makes it easy to understand what's going on thanks!
Hey Mover you should look up Cmdr David Fravor. One of the pilots in his squadron took the 2nd video you showed, and he had an up close visual encounter with it the same day. Interviews available on fighter pilot podcast and Joe Rogan. He doesn't sound like a kook at all, he definitely saw something... different.
neonpop80 It’s fucking fighter exhaust under FLIR grow up
@@smalliesmalls9601 That was my guess. The last clip, they look to be chasing each other around in a circle.
@@neonpop80 Fuck no we are not. Nobody from the Pentagon has said they are not from this world. Stop being stupid.
@@neonpop80 dude . best comment I've seen on ufos . narrow minded people are the reason this world is screwed up . ufos are called angles in the bible .. And if this went to court. . i witness testimony alone it would be an open and closed case ..
Just goes to show people are in denial . too afraid to (handle the truth.) Maybe the government is right to keep it from the public .. It's obvious the majority are still not ready . and would lose their minds if made to face reality . and probably the reason our interplanetary friend. Doesn't reveal their selves .
Greetings from Brazil. Great video. You got something that´s hard to find on internet today...Objectivity. I like the way you got straight to the point.
This video is really hard to find. I stumbled upon it once and then couldn't find it again. Luckily I linked it in a recent comment. It's probably because it's a year old, but also almost every other video is just sensationalizing it.
No responsible investigator ever said UAPs are extraterrestrial, but every investigator has said that just because an object is unknown doesn't mean it's extraterrestrial. Someone isn't listening.
Hello Pilot! I have seen UFO in my life for 5-6 times of which 1 occasion was 100% UFO spotting. I am in to aviation, space technology, and science. The one thst is 100% sure was the orange star like light hanging in the sky, changing dynamics. I called in my brother(he is a pilot) and told him: look i think that's a ufo. He replied: really? I couldn't tell of 8t was 3km high or 15km high. It was just hanging and had orange color. But what happened next was fascinating. (The sky was clear midsummer night. I know how planets and ISS look like) . The light got dimmer, to almost barely visible, then got 2x brighter than it was originally, then got dimmer than it was originally, and within a blink of an eye, it just warp drived away in to space like a shooting stsr would do towards the earth. We were left speechless shouting whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?! :) space is too big to be kept by humans only. Sorry guys
I was in Argentina in the 90s when Mirage interceptors were dispatched on the Federal capital.
And yes, it was a cylindrical craft. Some think it was Russian, some think it was an UFO. Sadly, sovereignty violations are always covered because means the fighter pilots can stop it.
It almost looks like a bug walking across a camera lens.
Such a refreshing and honest take, sir.
Thank you for your service
Emphasis on “unidentified”.. these arent confirmed to be an alien it’s just an Unidentified Flying Object.
Here's your fucking confirmation.....and this fucker was directly over MY neighborhood. 60+ sightings. #Believer
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GodzillaGamer 49 how could it possibly be confirmed to be aliens in the first place? We don’t know if aliens even exist let alone what their craft looks like. Or maybe they do know. Regardless aliens can’t be dismissed especially since they can’t identify what kind of air craft it is
@@tommynikon2283 Ah yes more blurry images of SOMETHING moving. How exactly does that confirm it's aliens?
Yeah! Meybe it's an space x satellite (it's not)
Years ago when I was active on the Skeptics forum we analyzed the footage and with certain confidence found which targeting system it was - Raytheon __some_code. We read how internals was, how the "arm" with sensor moves and it was on a "gimbal." And we drew a couple of maps to look at angles at which target was and flight path - trying to chase so one map looked like half circle. Like Mover said they were trying to get behind. And with some reasoning, we concluded that targeting system's arm was probably at the angle at which gimbal held the arm and the arm would need to rotate to reacquire the target. So this was the reason it looks like it just "accelerate" and disappears. No actually "arm" started rotating because it was at it's maximum angle. How did we knew that? It was described from previous Raytheon system - there were "blown out" schematics and it was obvious camera cannot "look" at every angle freely. If anyone is interested enough I could find a link.
(It was a collaboration of people from every expertise and of course people outside the USA, like me. So forgive my grammar and maybe my autocorrect.)
Perfect; you're a skeptic. Tell you what, skippy, "analyze" this, then get back to me. TELL me your "theory". And then I'll tell you the real world experiences.
Here's but one, directly over my neighborhood. tommynikon.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Them/G0000wFa8xMPT8hw/I0000nK72oNhhfv8
TELL me, what you "think". I eat skeptics- of most things, for breakfast.
Yes, gimbal lock is a thing. But when someone that wants to believe sees a light in the sky, it's aliens.
ruclips.net/video/Eco2s3-0zsQ/видео.html
@@nickdial8528 The eyewitness accounts saw something that they interpret as instantaneous movement. Now think of a firefly on a dark night. How can it instantaneously travel almost one hundred meters? It doesn't. Given the right conditions, multiple objects may synchronize so that a single object seems to be moving at impossible speed.
"And no, I've never seen a UFO while flying" and that's his story and he is sticking to it!
When someone says that these videos are something ordinary or mundane they are ignoring all of the accompanying information and eyewitness testimony. They're calling the thousands, if not millions, of witnesses either ignorant or liars.
Or just mistaken. As with gods, faeries, ghosts, leprechauns, unicorns, mermaids, big foot, etc etc etc
9:37
fun fact... thermal imaging is not a magic tmeperature gauge - there are factor that influence it like reflective surfaces - although what's reflective depends on wavelength
but if you look at a reflective blank metal surface with a thermal camera you're going to get less information about it's temperature than what's well... relectd in it
also if you look up at the clear sky with a thermal camera and you don't look irectly into the sun even on a warm day it looks really cold
so basically if you see a piece of tinfoil from above with a termal camera on a summer day with clear skies there's a 99% chance it will look really cold even if it's actually a bit warmer than it's environment
I've used them a few times doing work in the concrete field (of all things lol), to look for voids in CMU walls etc. The one we had was sensitive enough to see someone's footprints on concrete on a very hot day. It could also, on the same day detect the warm air left by a human hand as it was passed in front of the lens. It could absolutely detect fractions of a degree.
I know early military equipment maybe wasn't as sensitive but I've seen videos of people discussing this and later models are at least as sensitive as the gear I was using around 2000-2002. So I have to think that even if things like what you're talking about are a problem that the gear is capable of at least displaying it when you zoom out a bit and that the crews would be trained for such visual artifacts. That's why we get some pretty solid visual tracks here IMO despite some fuzzy footage on the older gear.
It also means that you'll see an aircraft's tailpipes, but not it's fuselage when looking in IR. That to me rather easily explains the second and third clips.
@kim Dier In the first clip, the F-18F radar was being jammed
@kim Dier You can see what appears to be an exhaust plume, but have no idea what kind of aircraft is generating it. Fighter planes have radar, but you typically don't go active unless you have reason to. The simple reason is that the radar signal will broadcast your direction to any passive sets at a greater range than it generates a useful return to your own set.
@kim Dier We have no reason to think the object accelerated out of view. All we see is that the camera stopped tracking, which is a common thing. Go watch a whole bunch of CAS videos. At some point you'll find one where the camera loses tracking for a moment. It's really nothing special.
The object that was "skimming the ocean" was in fact not skimming the ocean. It's an optical illusion. If you think about it logically, the object appears to be very cold. What can appear very cold? A low power aircraft or an animal that is flying high. Low power aircraft and animals fly slow. So, that's already a hint that it wasn't flying fast. What would make it appear to fly fast? Being high up in the air with a distant background behind the object. Look up parallax effect. In short, objects that are close to the background will appear to move slower. Objects that are far away from the background (closer to the camera) will appear to move faster. It's just an optical illusion.
The pilots are excited for the same reason people watching these videos are excited. They don't understand what's going on.
One of the only simple explanations I can imagine that could possibly account for all these details would be these things are extremely advanced aerial drones that some govt has been secretly testing. That’s kind of unbelievable, but not much more unbelievable than assuming it’s from an extraterrestrial, off-planet source.
if its a drone, how is it cooler than the water?
graydon woods - Id be inclined to agree with you if they didn’t defy all known physics. These pilots have witnessed these things stopping on a dime, making impossible maneuvers and straight up vanishing in thin air while simultaneously appearing miles away. If any human organization actually has such technology, they could easily take over the entire world. Creating artificial gravity around a craft is light years beyond our capabilities. It would change EVERYTHING. I’ve seen similar craft with my own eyes in Palm Springs one night. There were 5 of them and judging by the distance from the mountain they were at least as large as a bus. They were all shining a single spotlight on the mountain near the bottom, then within maybe two seconds they all lined up and shot up and over the mountain and disappeared. No sound, no other lights. I could see them well because it was a bright moon and I swear to God there is no known aerial craft that can move that quickly. That mountain, Mt San Jacinto I think, is nearly 11,000 ft. They flew from almost the ground to over the top peak within a couple seconds! With zero sound and no visible exhaust. It was a quiet night and I was in a parking lot pretty close to the mountain. Maybe they were enormous drones with insane, secret tech, but that seems unlikely. Then again, ETs aren’t too likely either. Then again again...
@graydon woods it was colder than the 60-70° ocean below it and it moved extremely fast. Judging by fravor's eye witness account it also accelerated very impossible by todays standards. It should have given off some heat if it was made with human knowledge of physics.
No plume, propulsion source?
I'm open minded as to what these could be but the problem that I have with the secret government tech explanation is that the exact same sighting descriptions have been reported for pretty much 60 or 70 years so are we saying our governments have had this tech for that length of time? Maybe 20 years is feasible but not 60 years. Unless of course the original sightings way back then were ET and the multitude of sightings we see today are our back engineered objects.
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Lt. Commander Fravor’s interview is very telling. To say they didn’t know what it was, is a cop-out. When you add everything up from the radar signatures to the pilot reports, it forms a complete picture. Without those details, you can only speculate.
It's breaking down the DOD videos, not investigating the entire incident. Says it right in the title.
What makes these videos unique is listening to the pilots testimony into these events. The one video that you said was a drone doesn't make sense because the pilots could only see it in IR which was why the crew was so excited to catch it on the camera because they couldn't see it with the naked eye.
i agree with you! I am baffled at why C.W is brushing all these credible witnesses (pilots) and calling them drones.. when we are also dealing with trained observers here, who were actually in the air chasing these things at the time. i trust their testimonies a whole lot more than a monday morning quarterback.
I love your sane logic. If we don't know what it is, it only means that we don't know what it is. Some people believe that not knowing means knowing though.
Well not knowing what it is is an embarrassment. Because if the US Navy and military is the best in the world with the best tools and technology; they should know what it is. Do you see the problem here? Pfft!
@@freddyferrillo9704 exactly lol. the fact that the PENTAGON doesn't know what it is should absolutely ALARM you.
@@jackbrink9898 What makes you think that the pentagon does not know what it is?
Would love to see you interview Cmdr David Fraver about his experience.
He is one of the Navy pilots that took some of these.
Not exactly true. He saw the object with others but it was the team that went up after them who took the footage which confirmed the earlier teams visual sighting of the craft. Either way he should 100% interview him and let's see him tell fravor another country has technology that means crafts can go from 10,000 feet to a foot above sea level in 1 second and also be a physical object that radar has contact with 😯
@@chriss8562 without the radar data to confirm that, it's just speculation. Maybe they have that on record and we'll see it in July. I hope we do see more data than just these IR recordings to help confirm the eyewitness accounts either way, because the IR shoes nothing remarkable.
@@Mike_C-79 I've a feeling congress might get to hear/see the full facts but realisticly there are gonna be so many classified files that they can't/won't share with the public which I suppose is understandable really.
Good analysis, thanks for giving us your fighter pilot view on this.
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The weirdest part to me is that the one object was cooler than the ocean while going super fast. Kinda counter-intuitive
Search for RUclipsr thunderf00t, he has a good explanation, most likely just a bird flying at about 2km above the water which explains why irs cold
@@notsillyone why would the bird be colder than water? Also, do we know where was this filmed, I mean geographically, so we can know what water temperature is?
that got me too..
@@stefanjasovic2311 Because it's flying in cold air. I'm sure the details of each of them is available somewhere, but I seem to remember at least 2, if not all 3 were in California
@@notsillyone A bird? Made of ice? Not flapping it's wings just shooting across the water? He even said it's going pretty fast.
My UFO story comes from an event that I observed while driving at night near Las Vegas. I saw a bright moving object (that I thought was a satellite) make what appeared to be an abrupt 90-degree change in course without slowing down or taking a curved path of any kind. The light then rapidly accelerated out of view at a speed that I have not observed in any way before or since. Obviously my point of view and range from the object would influence what I saw. Also, being that I was close to both Nellis AFB and Groom Lake I have always had my doubts about what exactly it was, but it was crazy!
Wtf.... you literally saw the exact same thing i did back in 1998. What color light? The one i saw was a fuzzy blue. When it accelerated it crossed 2/3 of the sky in under 4 seconds. Three of us saw it from where we were kinda illegally camping on saddleback mountain in Orange County, ca.
@@LBCAndrew I've heard stories from fighter pilots about pulling UFO pranks on campers at night. When they were on night training missions they could see camp fires through their NV goggles from dozens of miles away. They would basically sneak up on them at high speeds, pull power to idle so they cant hear it, then when they got to the camp fire they pull up to a vertical and turn the after burners on for 3 seconds and disappear again.
@@natepm6589 That is not how UAP's work and people are not that stupid. If you see a UAP you will know it especially if they go under water and fly again which is little talked about. Congress had a hearing this year on UAP's. They are very real and they are not American technology nor foreign technology.
@@warfarenotwarfair5655 I’m not dismissing any ideas you might have. I’m just referring to this individuals experience and suggesting they may have experienced a fighter pilot prank. That’s all.
I love that the Pentagon releases these videos, and even confirms that they are "non-terrestrial vehicles", and people are like "it's drones".
Where was the statement from pentagon saying "non-terrestrial vehicles"?
What type of fuel will such a drone need to be flying the middle of the ocean with sustained high speed. No fuel tanks, no heat source. Whatever it is , its not normal technology.
UFOs are either one of two things. Skunks from the US or another nation, or straight supernatural stuff. I do not believe aliens exist so I do not think the UFOs are extraterrestrial.
Unexplained ones that is. other UFOs are like birds or aircraft.
@@jnx4803 but here's the thing the navy was tracking this 'object' for days.. so unless it's a tomahawk that can fly around for days.. it's not a missile nor a drone.
@@jnx4803 Skin friction will heat it to be hotter than the surrounding water for both Tomahawks and railgun projectiles
@@surrealsupercell7217 "I do not bellive ailens exist" is a pretty naive assertion.
I'm not gonna get into the obvious about the size of the universe and even the galaxy to start explaining why that's a pretty wrong assumption but at BEST for your argument's sake they're just rare and hard to find.
It is entirelly 100% scientifically and physically possible that hidden/hard to find Von Neumann probes exist in the Solar System or that an Extrarerrestrial Civilization has visited this world in the past. But it's also a fact that it would most certainly be *extreemely difficult* to find evidence given how old this planet is. We've only been a space capable species for little over what 70 years? You cant expect these things to be solved overnight or espescially within our lifetime sadly.
Pilot: “this thing is moving at 10,000knots
Cw lemoine: “ that’s decently fast , not overly impressive to draw my attention.
Yeah, at what altitude? Basically the ratio of `fastest aircraft at that altitude` : 10,000 knots, is the same ratio as 'my expertise' : 'CW Lemoine expertise' and explains why -content- analysis like his doesn't impress me. edit: strikethrough & replacement
@@hailtothechief7080 80 thousand feet, down to 20 thousand feet and they also appeared at just above sea level.
10000 knots is near 19000 kmh... and the fastest aircraft known to man had a top speed of 7200 kmh. pfft
whatever tf it was that boi was zooming, and no human would be able to stand travelling that fast so that UFO either had an out of this world being flying it, or it was remote controlled by something else, or maybe even self flying🤔
@@brownepstein5536 Speed isn't an issue for humans, it's the acceleration i.e. the change of speed over time that is incompatible with biological life at those levels (from 0 to 19000kph in less than a second)
The 1st video the pilot states he was vectored there to check out what the radar people (yes that's the correct MOS) were seeing on radar. It was at high altitude then low, moving at various speeds. They had seen it previously on radar before. I would've appreciated your comments / opinion while listening to the pilots comments as they watched it. I've watched several interviews with that pilot and it's interesting to say the least.
Dont you think that anything that is observed only through instruments like radar to do physically impossible things but never with the naked eye or on video, that it is most likely an error in the instrument be it soft or hardware? I meen their argument litteraly is: we have seen the numbers on the radar say it is at this altitude and a second later a totally different altitude. ALIENS.
@@sambal777 Bro, they also saw it visually. They visually saw it accelerate so fast that it was gone from sight in a few seconds towards the horizon. What do you think where visual description comes from, especially two "L" shaped appendages on the bottom of the Tic-Tac? They saw them on radar, FLIR, visually. Multiple sensors from multiple platforms were involved, and, when the objects were first starting to appear on radar, they first thought on the radar ship that they were getting ghost tracks, after recalibrating the radar the returns only got sharper.
First one is navy. So it’s rare, not MOS. 😉☺️
Radar is not definitive, that's why we scramble jets to follow up. And I know people don't like this, but pilot sightings are not reliable forms of evidence. Pilot error happens all the time and is an accepted fact except when it comes to UAP sightings for some reason. The only real evidence we have of these "encounters" are the videos and that is what needs to be examined. Testimony is useful when one can compare it to whatever tangible evidence one can gather to either support that testimony or undermine it.
The 1st video was a missile seeker test. They were testing the missile as well as anyone's ability to track it. The plane wasn't told what they were intercepting because the test was to see if they could find and track it. All the new missile/drone swarm stuff entering service... well, that's what you are looking at.
Great video, Mover. If you don't know what something is, then you don't know what something is. No amount of speculation will make that thing what you THINK it is, until more information or evidence of that very SAME THING can prove otherwise. Why people just love to presume aliens because of one pilot's opinion when it could be a multitude of things is what baffles me the most.
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@@huntforandrew yes
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U means aliens.
@@jamescarter8311 Noooo, it means little green men from another planet
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The simple fact that the object is cooler than the sea water below it to me is the best evidence that it could in fact be extraterrestrial. I use FLIR systems every day for work (HVAC troubleshooting) and being that the thermal display is set to black hot the propulsion systems should be clearly evident if it was a drone or missile. A Missile would leave an obvious heat trail behind it and a drones propellers would show up as black circles or a straight thin black line. Not to mention the heat signature from the motors but that could be hidden from thermal with insulation. I don’t think the military would bother trying to insulate the engine housings to avoid thermal detection being that the craft stands out like a sore thumb due to how cold it operates. I don’t see how it could possibly be colder than the water being that it’s in direct sunlight which would build enough heat for the thermal to detect. I think a drone of some sort is the best candidate other than a hyper dimensional phase changing extraterrestrial space craft 👽👽😉😂
That footage is by far the strongest evidence for possible unknown technologies
Just to clarify, the idea of us being the only ones isn't arrogant, it's just basic probability. But we have to get outside the notion of one universe and one plane of reality. These things didn't 'travel' here by any means we could conceive of. They may not even exist in any form we can conceive of.
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