I watched the video without and I had no idea what was going on, I’ve never flown, don’t watch, movies and haven’t played a sim game. Glad this was here to help me understand the entire situation.
Can you imagine how frustrating this must have been for Samir down on the ground? Literally every missile he fired missed. I bet he was screaming, "hacker!" at his monitor.
@@thedigitalrealm7155 During that operation 2 F-16s were shot down. Major Jeffery “Tico” Tice. Was Stroke 4. He ejected and was held as a POW for 46 days. (Might be longer or shorter I’m not sure). The other air craft that was shot down was Captain Harry “Mike” Roberts. He also is alive ejected and was captured as a POW. Both were alive and no one died that day (other than the Iraqis).
@@Krystalmyth yes only two air craft were shot down. Both ejected and you can see Stroke 4’s interview of him being a POW and talks a little about The other pilot that was shot down during the same mission.
@@giovannigiorgio3211 "I thought that's what we were talking about." You're absolutely right. I've been ignoring that for a couple months but I'll comment on it now. I made my comment to point out the "main character syndrome" in yours. That's all. You could have been a part of that 1% silently but you wanted attention. That's why I made my comment to point out that you're not the main character and you've only actually put in 1% of the work. Edit: I'm usually an asshole from the shadows but narcissism really rustles my jimmies, y'know?
Was just thinking that. Like have a picture in picture where you can see both the video and the 3D video of it at the same time so we can see exactly what's going on and where.
Former USAF crew chief and Desert Shield/Storm veteran here. Just to clarify, we -did- have LGBs back then. I was in the 421st AMU of the 421st TFS (flying block-40 C/Ds) which was part of the 388 TFW and we flew out of UAE for the duration. Love your channel and love what you do, keep up the great work!
That’s awesome. I’m a current viper crew chief at nellis and learned that my jet was deployed to desert storm and operation Iraqi freedom. It’s crazy to think it may have been a part of this sorority
Hey, I actually met one of the pilots on this flight. I used to work with his son and met him at a birthday party. It was Stroke 4 I think, as he went down over Baghdad itself. Ejected successfully, survived the war as a POW.
@Mover: The chaff/flare dispenser had a malfunction. He didn't know it until he started jabbing the CMS switch. Apparently he was jabbing it the entire time he was defending but nothing was released.
Would that prevent Bitching Betty from calling out "chaff/flare"? Is she triggered by the CMS switch or by actual dispensing? questions, questions... :D
@@kainhall Negative. You're thinking of having it in "semi" mode where it says COUNTER if you get a launch. chaff/flare is sounded when pilot commands CMS release.
No, 7 times. He jettisoned he's tanks and barely made it back to base! That was he's lucky day, as they say in my local dialect after a death defying feat, "genda olye nkoko yo" literally translated as go and eat your chicken!
I was curious what happened to stroke 4. He said his plane was lost, but said nothing about the pilot. I was hoping he got out, and recovered by allies, and worst case was a POW that came home. The PTSD from being a POW, and the flight will haunt him forever.
@@mattlane2282 This was back during Desert Storm. I was a kid at that point. So I don't know why? Sadam Husain was not playing nice with other countries and their oil?
@@ElkStirrinTheHoney My point here was, after seeing how the US has been lately... really... the entire world should hate us... he did nothing to us directly... yet we were over there bombing them... if you look at what all our "enemies" have done... the entire world has every reason to invade and bomb the USA...
He was doing a great job managing his energy without going to burner. Had to try to keep it above 300 IAS while maneuvering to bleed the missiles and try to keep it above the flak coverage. Deserved every bit of that DFC.
This is an aspect that really stood out for me. You could tell (for obvious reasons) he was under a lot of duress, but was collected enough to still not look at the entire situation through a straw. Had he panicked, and still evaded the missles, he very well could have ran out of fuel and another aircraft lost, possibly another POW. This is what I feel was the final push to DFC status. He did exceptional. Dude was a stud that day.
The real hard thing is keeping track of the missiles and launch sites so you actually know where you are in relation to them and when you have to do the evasive manoeuvres.
There's a video of an A10 providing close air support that rivals the intensity, you can hear the panic and gunfire on the ground while the FAC is calling the gun runs.
I remember watching Desert Storm on the news every night. The amount of firepower coming out of Baghdad at night was absolutely insane. That green & black screen became a common sight. So did the accurate missile strikes on targets. That was crazy to watch as a 10 yr old kid.
This is why practicing is soooo important. Imagine how many touch and goes he had to do to be this level of proficiency...it reflects great credit upon himself and the United States Air Force
I know it’s would be hard to do but I would love to see a animated version of the whole situation just to see how he evaded the missiles and how close they were to him.
Don’t know if its his mic or my tv but he sounds like he’s sitting in my living room talking to me. Great video btw, he has a great ability to describe what we’re seeing.
@@anotherarmchairhistorian2831 Ehhh, they can handle a lot more than a human can. We run those things with safety parameters that are pretty conservative.
Was there two F16s lost? What happened to the other pilot? I recall the Iraqis displaying two RAF pilots who were captured on TV, they looked in bad shape.
@@tlevans62 Here You go the whole bloody thing compiled by Col Whitcomb: media.defense.gov/2017/Apr/05/2001727299/-1/-1/0/B_0102_WHITCOMB_COMBAT_SEARCH_RESCUE.PDF
@@lizardb8694 Gonna see if kindle or amazon has that book ty for sharing. Have you read the B-52 diaries? some amazing books of guys flying BUFFs in Nam.
Holy cow, I am not an airman at all but this is soooooo stressful. This pilot is amazing, and I have so much respect for anyone that has the balls to do this.
They did have LGBs during ODS, they were used on the F-117. They also had datalink, JTIDS, which was used on the F-15. I'm not sure if Link-16 was fully implemented at that time but it was developed in the early 80's.
@@CWLemoine Litening pods fielded for Blk 30 approx 2000. These jets were pre-SCU1; equipped with original factory software. No mode-selectable bullseye, only 20 steerpoints. Units developed High Altitude High Release attacks (HARB) after deploying to the desert in 1990. That was the "45 high" attack he described. HARB/HADB became the standard attack for most viper squadrons until every unit was equipped with targeting pods. The chaff/flare dispense button was on the interior wall outboard of the throttle- ALE-40/ALR-69. It's still there, I think its a "stop program" function now. Another dispense switch was added on the outside wall that moves up/down for additional program functions.
@@CWLemoine SCU-3 or 4; SADL deployed to units pre-GPS so occasionally INS drift would cause your wingman to display on the wrong side of the formation.
Good info! My first Block 25 (B-course) was a SCU 5.1 jet with no SADL. HST had SCU 6 and I left at SCU-7.1. Always hated HARBs. Did old Vipers not have a CMS switch on the stick? I flew with the ALQ-213 primarily.
I appreciate your break down videos. Even as a young kid I was a military nut and aviation was my favorite part about the military. I never became a pilot(although I did go Marine Corps Infantry) so to learn the terminology and understand whats actually happening is awesome. It helps put some perspective into what is going on. Much appreciated and look forward to more videos like this!
The 6 SAMs locked onto Stroke 3 because his huge balls made of steel have a large RCS and light up on the radar like a christmas tree I can barely hold my own at 1g and this guy is pulling 6gs. Balls. Of. Steel
Good God Mover...you're the gift that keeps on giving. Had one of the guys from the 614th TFS join my old guard wing years ago following the war (yeah, the first gulf war...I'm old)...he brought this vid and briefed us on it as we were converting from RF-4s to KC-135s and still had a building full of Phantom drivers...even us intel guys were on the edge of our seats in disbelief. I can still remember him saying "He was out of altitude, out of airspeed and almost out of options." One of the countless memeable debriefs I was blessed to sit in on.
I watched this several years ago and the part that sticks with me, which I didn't hear in your play by play, was him saying _Stroke 3 defending...again_ . He seemed to be so "essay" that he could make such a remark while flying for his life. Outstanding flying!
It’s very interesting to me that they were using MK-84s. In November of 92, I was in weapons maintenance training. By November of 94, they were using GBU-10s (also 2000 lbs) and 12s (500lbs). Technology moves fast! Great video!
I remember seeing this video years ago; even then watching it was hair-raising. After learning Maj Tullia dodged all those SAMs without chaff/flares AND in MIL power? Holy shit.
Another fun little fact: The newest air-to-air active radar BVRAAM from MBDA, the Meteor. This missile really does light it's engine for a very long time and chase you down. Even if you break lock, it has so much ΔV that it will return to the place it first found you and Charlie around looking for you. If it finds you, it begins the case all over again, until it finally runs out of fuel! Scary stuff, scary missile.
Or have a SM-6 come down at your from the edge of space and the usaf is currently testing it air launch. Also you’re repeating propaganda because you don’t know any better.
as a huge fan of the F16 (it being my favorite jet since I was a kid) I love hearing your insights into the aircraft and learning things I otherwise would never know.
This is really cool to watch and listen to. Coincidentally, the Fighter Pilot Podcast just interviewed the F15 pilot credited with three kills, two of which were during Desert Storm during the same few days as this took place. Really cool to hear two different stories I’m from the same area during the same few days. He’d be a cool guy to hear you interview as well.
That was intense. I'm glad you narrated, made sense of it all. One of the FEW times I didn't mind the "jibber jabber". Kudo's to the crew who maintains this jet, performed flawlessly.
What do you mean “watch it without you talking?” The only reason I watch is to hear you talk me through this kind of stuff!!! This was super heavy and I appreciate you breaking it down for those who may otherwise not know what was going on in that cockpit! Amazing!
@@sgddfgfghfgh because trolls are assholes that don’t get enough attention in life, therefore become jerk offs when they have a keyboard in front of them. Is it not obvious to you? No. Not likely.
Mover, that is a great video that words cannot define. It meant a lot to me as my father flew an RF-4C Phantom in Vietnam. He once dodged 23 SAMs over his target. Yes, he came home after flying over 100 missions.
Great work as always, Mover, Intensity at its finest. I was stationed at 613AMU, Torrejon AB Spain during this time. The 614th deployed to Doha around 25 Aug 1990. Unfortunately my unit was tasked to stay 'not deploy as to support for the 2 deployed units (612 Amu deployed to incirik AB Turkey). This combat encounter happened during the first daylight raid into Bagdad during the Desert Storm. They lost 2 F-16s in same mission, resulting in 2 POW's, Capt Robert's, and Major Tice... Our sister unit 612th AMU also lost 1 F-16 during combat flying out of Turkey. After releasing bomb it detonated fragging out his own jet. As aircraft were lost we continue to send replacement jets. Lots of. Great stories came of desert storm...... Wash 401st FW/ 613 AMU / Crew Chief
To be honest I suspect he may have hit the switch accidentally. I say this because the moment the tone of the Sidewinder becomes audible he switches it back to Nav. The air to air mode is used independently of the dogfight mode. That mode he was in was for guns exclusively if I recall correctly.
We did have LGBs in the 90s. We've had them since Vietnam, actually. In fact, we had the world's first laser guided bomb, the BOLT-117. The Paveway was/is more accurate though (20 feet CEP vs 75 feet for the BOLT). Even had TV guided bombs like the Walleye back then. One thing to also note is I noticed at one point, he was doing only 1.1G before pulling 5.1 three seconds later. I can't even imagine going from feeling like weighting like you normally do to then weighing 510% of that just seconds later. It's also worth noting he did pull a mere .2Gs for half a second at one point. So within less than 5 minutes, he's experienced what it feels like to weigh 500% his weight and 20% his weight. On a less extreme note, many times he goes from .3 or .4 to 2.3+ within seconds. Must be one hell of a feeling.
Every time I watch this video it's just astonishing how taxing this must've been for the pilot. I literally can't imagine it. • Flying a jet in 3 dimensions is nothing like driving a car so he has to think about that. • He can't catch a break from all the missile launches so he has to think about that. • He's got to calculate where he's going so he leaves himself enough altitude amd airspace to maneuver, so he's got to think about those things _and also consider future thoughts he might need to have in another half a minute_ . • He's got to avoid anti-aircraft shrapnel below him. • He's got to listen to and trust his co-pilot and think about what he's saying. He's got to be physically fit enough to do these maneuvers because he's not just in a moving chair, it takes real physical strength to do these maneuvers. He's also hitting 5 and 6 G's so he's got to strictly control his breathing on top of everything else. • He's actively listening to his radio.. • He's actively responding and communicating via radio. • Probably 100 other things I can't even discern because this is so far outside of my life experience. This guy's doing like 10 different things at once, and if he screws up any one thing there's a good chance it could kill both himself and his co-pilot. I can barely manage to go to the bathroom and text at the same time without dropping my phone in my own piss...
I was just south of there on the border, as a grunt in the 82nd. It was pretty nerve wracking at times with all the explosions and aircraft flying right over our heads.
@@poliferroso2 tracking is my first thought. If you are burning through fuel in full afterburner you have likely very little reaction time also. In my sims (I know wannabe pilot) I stay in Dogfight until the primary radar locks on. In the Falcon a gunfight at close range with cannon and Sidewinders is my choice
With that flash, it looks more like something with a muzzle brake (That thing on the end of the barrel with holes on the sides), so it's probably a 122mm D-25T converted into a flak gun
@@Sandalphon36 1: No need to explain what a muzzle break is. 2: A singular flash that large in that shape is most certainly not a flac gun, even if it is a 122mm.
@@AhHereWeGo In most cases you are right with that second point, but the D-25T is a tank gun with 2 piece ammo, so it takes upwards of 20 seconds to reload (About that first point, you would be surprised about how many people don't know what a muzzle brake is).
I've known about the exertion of countering the G-Forces to remain conscious, etc. but watching this really brings it home. Makes me think that DCS and other air combat sims should have a stamina bar for the pilot. :)
I could be wrong about this but I'm fairly certain it means the pilot flying the stroke 8 aircraft temporarily lost situational awareness. Basically "flying blind". Not literally of course, but simply has lost situational awareness with regard to the rest of the flight's position, altitude, heading, etc. Hope that answers your question.
It's the opposite of "visual". It means that you have no visual of friendly units. It can be specific to one aircraft or flight, or be used in a general sense regarding friendly forces AFAIK.
Man, hearing from him would be awesome. I was in 8th grade when this happened and that whole war was crazy to me. I remember seeing the CNN footage of the skies over Baghdad. This is a testament to not only how capable the Viper is but our men and women who fly to keep us safe
Keep you safe in Iraq? I understand having military and invading other nations. I hate it when people are brainwashed into believing it is to defend the Americans. The Iraqis in 1991 were even capable of launching missiles at US.
Thanks for the video I've watched this multiple times. My heart races every single time I get right into that cockpit and that man must love life more than most others know cuz he fought for all of it. It's so impressive
You see his "Fuel" warning come into the hud pretty early in as an example he was suprised he got the plane home. I'm a nobody arm chair pilot but have had a few "I don't know if getting it back" moments and feel proud but this guy is legend.
I just looked them up, they both spent about 48 days in captivity and then were returned home. Major Jeffery Scott Trice and Captain Harry "Mike" Roberts. Both studs and both are real American heroes.
The book Wings of Fury details it pretty well. Basically they were already good at killing MiG23s and got the opportunity to do it for real when they fired on the Tomcats
"i will post a link if you wana watch it without the gibber gabber" sir, we are here for the gibber gabber
Right!
I understood like 10% of what was said watching the original. WAY more intense with the explanation.
@@itsdalton yeah it’s so much more intense when you actually get an explanation of what’s going on
I watched the video without and I had no idea what was going on, I’ve never flown, don’t watch, movies and haven’t played a sim game. Glad this was here to help me understand the entire situation.
Can verify.
I can’t begin to imagine how much adrenaline was going through his system and how high his heart rate was through all that. What a boss.
300 bpm
@@pjswag2118 enough to keep the pilot awake in high G?
@@Joshua_N-A yes
I think his blood got replaced with pure drenaline
as soon as you hear the missile incoming alert its life or death for any wrong move you make here.
Can you imagine how frustrating this must have been for Samir down on the ground? Literally every missile he fired missed. I bet he was screaming, "hacker!" at his monitor.
As the F-16 pilot flew outside contested airspace, he types in all chat:
"EZ"
Had slow internet
Samir and his buddies brought down two f-16's - not bad.
probably muttering to himself 'damn, shoulda went with the newer models they were all talking about...i guess you get what you pay for...ha!
Samir your breaking the SAM
When he screamed "OH SHIT" you could feel him fighting for his life.
Yeah I hated that part lol 😨
Yeah that wasn't comfortable viewing. And screaming 'stroke 4 status' fearing his wingman had died
@@thedigitalrealm7155 So emotional... :c Was his wingman okay?
@@thedigitalrealm7155 During that operation 2 F-16s were shot down. Major Jeffery “Tico” Tice. Was Stroke 4. He ejected and was held as a POW for 46 days. (Might be longer or shorter I’m not sure). The other air craft that was shot down was Captain Harry “Mike” Roberts. He also is alive ejected and was captured as a POW. Both were alive and no one died that day (other than the Iraqis).
@@Krystalmyth yes only two air craft were shot down. Both ejected and you can see Stroke 4’s interview of him being a POW and talks a little about The other pilot that was shot down during the same mission.
When your DCS mission suddenly turns into Ace Combat.
lmao
Unsung War intensifies
MISSILE! MISSILE!
in ace 4 shattered skies comms 😂
AWACS: _"Attention all planes; ELIMINATE GLATISANT!"_
Well, I find the thought of a telegraph pole coming at me at over a thousand miles an hour simply terrifying.
A telephone pole coming at you at 5 mph is terrifying, 1000 mph is involuntary release of the bowels.
@@Dee-nonamnamrson8718 Especially if its packed with explosives and guided
Uhm actually... The SA-2 got up to Mach 3.5 ~2,685 mph.
@@andyjacobs7010
So... 2.685 times more terrifying then. Yep, still not keen.
This was a feat 99% of players couldn’t accomplish in DCS, much less IRL. What amazing piloting.
@@giovannigiorgio3211 Nice, now throw in 7 minutes of constant high G's.
@@giovannigiorgio3211 based
And he mistakenly thought he had chaff/flares
@@LilWatercup his friend pushed down on his spine to simulate it 😂
@@giovannigiorgio3211 "I thought that's what we were talking about."
You're absolutely right. I've been ignoring that for a couple months but I'll comment on it now.
I made my comment to point out the "main character syndrome" in yours. That's all. You could have been a part of that 1% silently but you wanted attention. That's why I made my comment to point out that you're not the main character and you've only actually put in 1% of the work.
Edit: I'm usually an asshole from the shadows but narcissism really rustles my jimmies, y'know?
I would love to see a 3d recreation of this, I wonder how much location data we have on this
Is this an official "Learn to code" moment?
There's Latitude/Longitude information at some points on the HUD.
The strike on the refinery will be recorded.
@@TheCarlsuching To be sure, saying "learn to code" is cheaper than doing free work for someone else.
If someone does this, link it back here in the comments
Was just thinking that. Like have a picture in picture where you can see both the video and the 3D video of it at the same time so we can see exactly what's going on and where.
Former USAF crew chief and Desert Shield/Storm veteran here. Just to clarify, we -did- have LGBs back then. I was in the 421st AMU of the 421st TFS (flying block-40 C/Ds) which was part of the 388 TFW and we flew out of UAE for the duration. Love your channel and love what you do, keep up the great work!
How inclusive! So how many gay pilots did you have?
:D
@@psychepeteschannel5500 laser guided bombs. Not talking about the alphabet people
@@psychepeteschannel5500 That explains why they started calling them GBUs.
@@psychepeteschannel5500 😆
That’s awesome. I’m a current viper crew chief at nellis and learned that my jet was deployed to desert storm and operation Iraqi freedom. It’s crazy to think it may have been a part of this sorority
11:30 First enemy missile
15:02 Stroke 4 (wingman) gets shot
15:29 release fuel tanks
15:31 missile trail
15:54 missile trail
15:58 missile trail
16:10 missile trail
16:24 "Oh sh*t!" Missile close call
16:50 "Six Gs and a half"
17:48 another missile
Did you catch whether Stroke 4 was safely recovered or was his fate later published? His name? Rank?
@@JackMonaghanWAMO Stroke 4 parachuted and was held POW. He lived but endured torture.
Name: Jeffery Tice
Rank: Major
@@malgorzatakawken thanks man
The 6.4 G is actually when he drops the bomb
Thanks dude.
Probably one of the most intense moments a pilot in a fighter plane. Avoiding 6 SAMs and live to tell the tale. Now, that's an ace right there.
And yet... that does not meet the simple definition of an ace.
@@andyjacobs7010 a ace has to beat 5 or 6 other pilots in battle
He JUST recently retired with Southwest Airlines last year. A very good man.
If you think Stroke 3 had a bad day, imagine missing 6 SAMs.
Being married is still worse
@@Wolf_3125 😅 You regret it?
@@Daniel-ld7xs I've read too many horror stories so I'm avoiding it.
@@Wolf_3125 It's honestly pretty great.
@@Daniel-ld7xs This guy knows nothing.
"Tower, i'm too heavy for landing, need to get rid of the excess 10 tons of balls i'm carrying"
"Strike 3 you're cleared to proceed. Dump it where no civilians nearby, over."
That’s one way to turn an F-16 into a crop duster. Those Iraqis are gonna have some fertile soil after that one.
Lmfao
That is so overused.
@@mmabagaindoesn’t make it any less true
Hey, I actually met one of the pilots on this flight. I used to work with his son and met him at a birthday party. It was Stroke 4 I think, as he went down over Baghdad itself. Ejected successfully, survived the war as a POW.
Thank God 🙏
@Mover: The chaff/flare dispenser had a malfunction. He didn't know it until he started jabbing the CMS switch. Apparently he was jabbing it the entire time he was defending but nothing was released.
Lol absolute worst time for that.
Would that prevent Bitching Betty from calling out "chaff/flare"? Is she triggered by the CMS switch or by actual dispensing? questions, questions... :D
@@marijandumancic4259 iirc, betty is triggered by the RWR.....
.
when it detects a launch, it says CHAFF FLAIR!
@@kainhall Negative. You're thinking of having it in "semi" mode where it says COUNTER if you get a launch. chaff/flare is sounded when pilot commands CMS release.
@@marijandumancic4259 Not sure what sort of malfunction it was, just read a 1 line thing about it saying that it was a malfunction.
I watched that footage many times, was so glad to see you explaining it.
Agreed. It helps a lot to have those insights.
Wow! That was intense! He essentially escaped death six times. Kudos to that fighter pilot!
No, 7 times. He jettisoned he's tanks and barely made it back to base! That was he's lucky day, as they say in my local dialect after a death defying feat, "genda olye nkoko yo" literally translated as go and eat your chicken!
a smart person would have just ejected instead of going through this shit....
Death or capture.
Born in 1980, with a military airbase next to my city. I grew up watching f-16's take of and land. They are so friggin beautiful
Yeah they are. Love the Viper.
And they still are!
Thankfully the pilot of stroke 4 survived the war as a POW and came home.
I was curious what happened to stroke 4. He said his plane was lost, but said nothing about the pilot. I was hoping he got out, and recovered by allies, and worst case was a POW that came home. The PTSD from being a POW, and the flight will haunt him forever.
A second Fighting Falcon was lost after this sortie. After the driver became a POW, does anybody know what happened?
They were dropping bombs in someone else country... how would you feel if bombs were being dropped in yours? What reason did we have to be there?
@@mattlane2282 This was back during Desert Storm. I was a kid at that point. So I don't know why? Sadam Husain was not playing nice with other countries and their oil?
@@ElkStirrinTheHoney My point here was, after seeing how the US has been lately... really... the entire world should hate us... he did nothing to us directly... yet we were over there bombing them... if you look at what all our "enemies" have done... the entire world has every reason to invade and bomb the USA...
He was doing a great job managing his energy without going to burner. Had to try to keep it above 300 IAS while maneuvering to bleed the missiles and try to keep it above the flak coverage. Deserved every bit of that DFC.
This is an aspect that really stood out for me. You could tell (for obvious reasons) he was under a lot of duress, but was collected enough to still not look at the entire situation through a straw. Had he panicked, and still evaded the missles, he very well could have ran out of fuel and another aircraft lost, possibly another POW. This is what I feel was the final push to DFC status. He did exceptional. Dude was a stud that day.
You think he used a keyboard or a joystick?
Thats exactly how I would have done it in my F16.
@@yourhandlehere1 Neither...I think the aircraft was effectively wired into him, and not the other way around.
@@harrymallory7963 yeah......ok Harry..
Man, this is not easy even in DCS without G forces. Most intense video I ever seen.
Also "Stroke 4, status!" almost made me cry.
The real hard thing is keeping track of the missiles and launch sites so you actually know where you are in relation to them and when you have to do the evasive manoeuvres.
There's a video of an A10 providing close air support that rivals the intensity, you can hear the panic and gunfire on the ground while the FAC is calling the gun runs.
@@ananthropomorphictalkinggo6641 do you have a link?
@@ananthropomorphictalkinggo6641 link?
Same on the "Stroke 4, status!" part. Almost made even worse when a little later you hear them say "Stroke 4 hit, no chute."
I've been waiting on this one....probably the best video out there for fighter pilots to break down
Man, I would really love to see the outside the cockpit, like what the plane is doing in the air. Incredible!
Let's set a morning alarm that sound something like
"MISSILE MISSILE MISSILE"
YEETER INBOUND
As an ace combat fan that would probably wake me up but also give me ptsd.
@@madmalkavian3857 You don’t have PTSD from a video game...please
@@mike406 it's a joke. Chill.
i actually have had the RWR alarms from this video as my meeting alarms for the last 6 years
I'm sitting here watching this in my comfortable chair, drinking a coke..and my butt was clenched tighter than a snare drum watching that.
Copypasta
I remember watching Desert Storm on the news every night. The amount of firepower coming out of Baghdad at night was absolutely insane. That green & black screen became a common sight. So did the accurate missile strikes on targets. That was crazy to watch as a 10 yr old kid.
This is why practicing is soooo important. Imagine how many touch and goes he had to do to be this level of proficiency...it reflects great credit upon himself and the United States Air Force
I know it’s would be hard to do but I would love to see a animated version of the whole situation just to see how he evaded the missiles and how close they were to him.
I bet someone's working on it now.
it's out there. they added his movements at fighter weapons training
Don’t know if its his mic or my tv but he sounds like he’s sitting in my living room talking to me. Great video btw, he has a great ability to describe what we’re seeing.
You have a nice couch. 🤷♂️😂
LMMFAO He must be using an Astatic mic . . . . Probably a D-104 Lollipop :)
I'm exhausted just watching him fly. I bet he was sore for a week.
Oh you know it! He was pushing that airframe to the very edge.
Were you tightening your legs and belly?
@@andrewt.5567 I about leaned over the arm of my chair trying to roll and dodge them bastards. I feel like I just had a cardio workout.
I'm already almost passing out from the Gs by watching
@@anotherarmchairhistorian2831 Ehhh, they can handle a lot more than a human can. We run those things with safety parameters that are pretty conservative.
That was pretty intense.
Mover you’re making me feel old, the mission date is the same day month and year I joined the Army (Australian Army 19/1/91)
Thanks for your service 👍
Thank you for your service sir 👊
Thanks for posting...I was part of CSAR force to recover Stroke 65...unfortunately he was captured by when we got there...sorry Tico, but we tried!
Was there two F16s lost? What happened to the other pilot? I recall the Iraqis displaying two RAF pilots who were captured on TV, they looked in bad shape.
@@tlevans62 Here You go the whole bloody thing compiled by Col Whitcomb:
media.defense.gov/2017/Apr/05/2001727299/-1/-1/0/B_0102_WHITCOMB_COMBAT_SEARCH_RESCUE.PDF
@@lizardb8694 Gonna see if kindle or amazon has that book ty for sharing. Have you read the B-52 diaries? some amazing books of guys flying BUFFs in Nam.
Shot down buy sa3 sam (s125)
Complete admiration at the skill of this pilot and the backup from his wingman, this is when your training pays of.
I asked Maj Tullia to speak at our commissioning ceremony back in 2019; awesome dude!
Imagine the adrenaline overload after hearing the first missile launch warning
Holy cow, I am not an airman at all but this is soooooo stressful. This pilot is amazing, and I have so much respect for anyone that has the balls to do this.
This guy obviously had the Chappy pre-flight recording and Queen playing in his headphones.
Wait, so that movie isn’t real?
I'm still trying to figure out when was he executing aileron rolls...
@@bessarion1771 aileron, aileroff, whatever it takes.
And he definitely practiced dropping bombs through billboard sized sheets of wood for targets. That’s how the best were trained back then apparently.
@@CrippledMerc Of course they did! Every movie in the 1980's says so, so it must be true!!!
That was most definitely a Twisted Sister kind of operation.
That was the quickest 25 minutes I ever experienced, so engaging.
I can just imagine his superior yelling at him for half an hour for not using countermeasures.
Nah it was the dive angle on his attack run.
So they found his countermeasures had not worked like they where supposed to, he did all this without CM
They did have LGBs during ODS, they were used on the F-117. They also had datalink, JTIDS, which was used on the F-15. I'm not sure if Link-16 was fully implemented at that time but it was developed in the early 80's.
I don't think the F-16s started using them until after. Maybe the Block 40s, but the Block 25/30 didn't get LANTIRN pods until the late 90s.
And they definitely didn't have datalink. The Block 30 didn't get that (SADL) until SCU-6 IIRC (in the 2000s)
@@CWLemoine Litening pods fielded for Blk 30 approx 2000. These jets were pre-SCU1; equipped with original factory software. No mode-selectable bullseye, only 20 steerpoints. Units developed High Altitude High Release attacks (HARB) after deploying to the desert in 1990. That was the "45 high" attack he described. HARB/HADB became the standard attack for most viper squadrons until every unit was equipped with targeting pods. The chaff/flare dispense button was on the interior wall outboard of the throttle- ALE-40/ALR-69. It's still there, I think its a "stop program" function now. Another dispense switch was added on the outside wall that moves up/down for additional program functions.
@@CWLemoine SCU-3 or 4; SADL deployed to units pre-GPS so occasionally INS drift would cause your wingman to display on the wrong side of the formation.
Good info! My first Block 25 (B-course) was a SCU 5.1 jet with no SADL. HST had SCU 6 and I left at SCU-7.1. Always hated HARBs. Did old Vipers not have a CMS switch on the stick? I flew with the ALQ-213 primarily.
That is really intense Mover, he was really blessed that day. Thank you for sharing and Happy Holidays.
If that cat had 9 lives, he just used 6 of them up.
8 of 9
@@dragonslayerornstein387 Great tv show!
@@warrmr Oh yeah, which one?
OH WOW YOU ARE SO GOOD AT MAFF!!!
That little tinge of sadness in his voice in the beginning sequence. "Strike-4, Status?!?". Giving me chills
I appreciate your break down videos. Even as a young kid I was a military nut and aviation was my favorite part about the military. I never became a pilot(although I did go Marine Corps Infantry) so to learn the terminology and understand whats actually happening is awesome. It helps put some perspective into what is going on. Much appreciated and look forward to more videos like this!
The 6 SAMs locked onto Stroke 3 because his huge balls made of steel have a large RCS and light up on the radar like a christmas tree
I can barely hold my own at 1g and this guy is pulling 6gs. Balls. Of. Steel
1g is literally normal earth gravity that we experience every second
@@SERGEANTDlCK yeah, my point exactly
@@tamaslapsanszki8744 was it a joke?
@@SERGEANTDlCK more like a sad realization of my physical shape
That 1g joke was hilarious. I too am having trouble holding my own against such forces in my rec league.
Grim Reaper: I will claim you today son!
Tullia: Come at me!
"not today!" :)
Good God Mover...you're the gift that keeps on giving. Had one of the guys from the 614th TFS join my old guard wing years ago following the war (yeah, the first gulf war...I'm old)...he brought this vid and briefed us on it as we were converting from RF-4s to KC-135s and still had a building full of Phantom drivers...even us intel guys were on the edge of our seats in disbelief. I can still remember him saying "He was out of altitude, out of airspeed and almost out of options." One of the countless memeable debriefs I was blessed to sit in on.
I watched this several years ago and the part that sticks with me, which I didn't hear in your play by play, was him saying _Stroke 3 defending...again_ . He seemed to be so "essay" that he could make such a remark while flying for his life. Outstanding flying!
It’s very interesting to me that they were using MK-84s. In November of 92, I was in weapons maintenance training. By November of 94, they were using GBU-10s (also 2000 lbs) and 12s (500lbs). Technology moves fast! Great video!
And nowadays the GBU-53 is just ridiculous. Unbelievable precision.
I remember seeing this video years ago; even then watching it was hair-raising. After learning Maj Tullia dodged all those SAMs without chaff/flares AND in MIL power? Holy shit.
Another fun little fact:
The newest air-to-air active radar BVRAAM from MBDA, the Meteor.
This missile really does light it's engine for a very long time and chase you down.
Even if you break lock, it has so much ΔV that it will return to the place it first found you and Charlie around looking for you.
If it finds you, it begins the case all over again, until it finally runs out of fuel!
Scary stuff, scary missile.
bro it has 150km of range wtf that shit gon be chasing you to hell
Or have a SM-6 come down at your from the edge of space and the usaf is currently testing it air launch. Also you’re repeating propaganda because you don’t know any better.
as a huge fan of the F16 (it being my favorite jet since I was a kid) I love hearing your insights into the aircraft and learning things I otherwise would never know.
That pilots composure throughout was absolutely incredible!!!!
Thank you for this. I remember watching this video years ago, and you never forget hearing the fear in his voice. Great breakdown of events!
" ohhhhh shit!" I just imagine him starting that middle down thinking this is the one that gets him.
You can actually hear him say that in the Battlefield 3 opening. It’s in the background noise right before the dubstep drop.
Two things
1. This guy should get 6 free beers every week.
2. If it was me my bunghole would still be holding onto that seat... Today!😳
This is really cool to watch and listen to. Coincidentally, the Fighter Pilot Podcast just interviewed the F15 pilot credited with three kills, two of which were during Desert Storm during the same few days as this took place. Really cool to hear two different stories I’m from the same area during the same few days. He’d be a cool guy to hear you interview as well.
That was intense. I'm glad you narrated, made sense of it all. One of the FEW times I didn't mind the "jibber jabber". Kudo's to the crew who maintains this jet, performed flawlessly.
What do you mean “watch it without you talking?” The only reason I watch is to hear you talk me through this kind of stuff!!! This was super heavy and I appreciate you breaking it down for those who may otherwise not know what was going on in that cockpit! Amazing!
definitely need to track him down, would be one hell of an interview
He got shot down and is a pow to this day
@@sgddfgfghfgh Stroke 4? Was released as the Iraqi army was defeated. This guy is still around somewhere. Would love to hear him tell his story.
@@sgddfgfghfgh you’re the reason the internet often sucks...
@@kentgregory3299 why
@@sgddfgfghfgh because trolls are assholes that don’t get enough attention in life, therefore become jerk offs when they have a keyboard in front of them. Is it not obvious to you? No. Not likely.
Every fighter pilot is simultaneously slightly jealous and very glad they didn’t have to overcome a situation like this.
This was on The Operations Room channel the other day, worth a look as it covers a few other events from other conflicts and operations
That channel rocks
Just found out about it. Love the Desert Storm- The Air War. Amazing job.
Just watching this made my heart rate go up, that was truly amazing.
Mover, that is a great video that words cannot define. It meant a lot to me as my father flew an RF-4C Phantom in Vietnam. He once dodged 23 SAMs over his target. Yes, he came home after flying over 100 missions.
Great work as always, Mover,
Intensity at its finest. I was stationed at 613AMU, Torrejon AB Spain during this time. The 614th deployed to Doha around 25 Aug 1990. Unfortunately my unit was tasked to stay 'not deploy as to support for the 2 deployed units (612 Amu deployed to incirik AB Turkey).
This combat encounter happened during the first daylight raid into Bagdad during the Desert Storm. They lost 2 F-16s in same mission, resulting in 2 POW's, Capt Robert's, and Major Tice...
Our sister unit 612th AMU also lost 1 F-16 during combat flying out of Turkey. After releasing bomb it detonated fragging out his own jet. As aircraft were lost we continue to send replacement jets.
Lots of. Great stories came of desert storm......
Wash
401st FW/ 613 AMU / Crew Chief
How long does it take for the SAMs to reach their potenial target,, how long does the pilot have to react in order not to be smoke??
4 seconds according to what i read
11:55 I've read that description somewhere.
Telephone pole it's a well known SA 2 nickname, don't know when it first appeared but it was common to call it that in Vietnam.
Id love to see a digital rendition of this. This is crazy!
That channel RENZIC... he is a sim creator... does all sorts of crazy stuff suggesred by his subs
Nothing but respect for all you guys flying and fighting for our side! This shows you how badass these guys are.
The breath, absolutely amazing. Bog rats on Hornet used to come home with saturated flight suits like they just got out of a swimming pool.
Any idea why he would have switched to dogfight mode at the end there, when there was never a threat from other aircraft?
It probably triggers the air to air radar which he used to find his buddies.
Yup engaging Dogfight mode automatically changes radar to ACM mode
Thanks!
To be honest I suspect he may have hit the switch accidentally. I say this because the moment the tone of the Sidewinder becomes audible he switches it back to Nav. The air to air mode is used independently of the dogfight mode. That mode he was in was for guns exclusively if I recall correctly.
maybe just by accident while playing the throttle, dogfight / MRM override is on there
We did have LGBs in the 90s. We've had them since Vietnam, actually. In fact, we had the world's first laser guided bomb, the BOLT-117. The Paveway was/is more accurate though (20 feet CEP vs 75 feet for the BOLT). Even had TV guided bombs like the Walleye back then.
One thing to also note is I noticed at one point, he was doing only 1.1G before pulling 5.1 three seconds later. I can't even imagine going from feeling like weighting like you normally do to then weighing 510% of that just seconds later. It's also worth noting he did pull a mere .2Gs for half a second at one point. So within less than 5 minutes, he's experienced what it feels like to weigh 500% his weight and 20% his weight. On a less extreme note, many times he goes from .3 or .4 to 2.3+ within seconds. Must be one hell of a feeling.
Every time I watch this video it's just astonishing how taxing this must've been for the pilot. I literally can't imagine it.
• Flying a jet in 3 dimensions is nothing like driving a car so he has to think about that.
• He can't catch a break from all the missile launches so he has to think about that.
• He's got to calculate where he's going so he leaves himself enough altitude amd airspace to maneuver, so he's got to think about those things _and also consider future thoughts he might need to have in another half a minute_ .
• He's got to avoid anti-aircraft shrapnel below him.
• He's got to listen to and trust his co-pilot and think about what he's saying. He's got to be physically fit enough to do these maneuvers because he's not just in a moving chair, it takes real physical strength to do these maneuvers. He's also hitting 5 and 6 G's so he's got to strictly control his breathing on top of everything else.
• He's actively listening to his radio..
• He's actively responding and communicating via radio.
• Probably 100 other things I can't even discern because this is so far outside of my life experience.
This guy's doing like 10 different things at once, and if he screws up any one thing there's a good chance it could kill both himself and his co-pilot.
I can barely manage to go to the bathroom and text at the same time without dropping my phone in my own piss...
Single seat. No co-pilot. 👍
Add to that he just watched and heard his wingman get blown to bits.
I was just south of there on the border, as a grunt in the 82nd. It was pretty nerve wracking at times with all the explosions and aircraft flying right over our heads.
Absolute legend. Perfect example of the connection man can have with a machine.
In dogfight mode, what is the snaking line on the screen?
Bullet path. If all you have left is guns it basically shows you the track of your bullets.
@@HazDaGeek OK, so it simulates what tracers would look like. Just maneuver to get it to line up with your target.
@@carabela125 Yep. Even it simulators it's a big plus. %-)
And why was he at dogfight mode? I just didn't get it... Was he going after something? Thanks
@@poliferroso2 tracking is my first thought. If you are burning through fuel in full afterburner you have likely very little reaction time also. In my sims (I know wannabe pilot) I stay in Dogfight until the primary radar locks on. In the Falcon a gunfight at close range with cannon and Sidewinders is my choice
13:24 I think we see the impact of the jettisoned tanks/bombs to the lower right
With that flash, it looks more like something with a muzzle brake (That thing on the end of the barrel with holes on the sides), so it's probably a 122mm D-25T converted into a flak gun
@@Sandalphon36 1: No need to explain what a muzzle break is.
2: A singular flash that large in that shape is most certainly not a flac gun, even if it is a 122mm.
@@AhHereWeGo In most cases you are right with that second point, but the D-25T is a tank gun with 2 piece ammo, so it takes upwards of 20 seconds to reload (About that first point, you would be surprised about how many people don't know what a muzzle brake is).
Mover have you ever experienced anything like this or even close to this during your military career?
What recent war had anything like this? US has been doing asymmetric fights of late.
Great breakdown c dubs. Always wanted to fly F-16s.
Sir without you explaining this I would never fully understand this video...thanks..
Incredible footage. Quite a bad scenario to be in when your flares fail 😂
Yea cant even imagine
Except those missiles were radar-guided to be able to lock on to him at that altitude..chaff failed to though
Worse is if he is in a single seater....cant even use the backseater as a flare.
I've known about the exertion of countering the G-Forces to remain conscious, etc. but watching this really brings it home. Makes me think that DCS and other air combat sims should have a stamina bar for the pilot. :)
Mover, I heard at one point “Stroke 8 blind”, what did that mean? Thanks
I could be wrong about this but I'm fairly certain it means the pilot flying the stroke 8 aircraft temporarily lost situational awareness. Basically "flying blind". Not literally of course, but simply has lost situational awareness with regard to the rest of the flight's position, altitude, heading, etc. Hope that answers your question.
It's the opposite of "visual". It means that you have no visual of friendly units. It can be specific to one aircraft or flight, or be used in a general sense regarding friendly forces AFAIK.
That he had 8 strokes and lost his eyesight? 🤣
That was immense. Props the pilot
Imagine trying to out maneuver a missile at 200 knots... an absolute legend that man is.
Mover, do you any info on the recent loss of Capt. 'Hawk' Jones and his Viper from Wis. 115th F/W?
Man, hearing from him would be awesome. I was in 8th grade when this happened and that whole war was crazy to me. I remember seeing the CNN footage of the skies over Baghdad. This is a testament to not only how capable the Viper is but our men and women who fly to keep us safe
Keep you safe in Iraq?
I understand having military and invading other nations. I hate it when people are brainwashed into believing it is to defend the Americans. The Iraqis in 1991 were even capable of launching missiles at US.
CW go over the footage of the migs vs the f14s
A favorite of mine for many years.
"I don't have a fucking tone!"
@@CakePrincessCelestia fooken toneeeeee
I believe he covered that already
Your commentary is why we’re here.
Augmenter is a G.E. term for afterburner (Pratt & Whitney). Mover, are you going to do a video series on the Wisconsin ANG Block 30 F-16 that crashed?
Even looking at the altimeter on the right tells me just how unbelievably difficult this must've been to do.
Damn that was intense. Amazed that he didn't black out pulling all those high g maneuvers.
Damn! You can hear him breathing like he's doing a sprint. Impressive.
He must in order not to G lock and pass out.
Thanks for the video I've watched this multiple times. My heart races every single time I get right into that cockpit and that man must love life more than most others know cuz he fought for all of it. It's so impressive
You see his "Fuel" warning come into the hud pretty early in as an example he was suprised he got the plane home.
I'm a nobody arm chair pilot but have had a few "I don't know if getting it back" moments and feel proud but this guy is legend.
Great video! Do we know what happened to the two who were shot down?
I just looked them up, they both spent about 48 days in captivity and then were returned home. Major Jeffery Scott Trice and Captain Harry "Mike" Roberts. Both studs and both are real American heroes.
@@benjigault9043 Thanks for the reply
How is he identifying the missiles? Visual or radar signature or what?
Rwr
Radar warning receiver
Would love to see your breakdown of the f-14 shoot down of the two Libyan mig-23s
Gulf of Sidra.
The book Wings of Fury details it pretty well. Basically they were already good at killing MiG23s and got the opportunity to do it for real when they fired on the Tomcats
Its great having you tell us what the heck is happening, I wouldn't have understood it otherwise.
Thanks for the pilot viewpoint / explanation. 30 years on this pilot's steely determination is still mightily impressive.