Because this story ended well, I really appreciate this. Would love for you to do more hud footage analysis. It would be helpful if you could give more details to help the average civilian commerical pilot understand his military brethren. Those chopper crews that rescued hammer 34 are great.
BADASS FREAKING MAN. His story literally sounds like it could be a mission in a video game. Or a movie. He deserves his story to be told. Just think, somewhere out in the rural fields of Serbia. Is General Goldfein's Barretta in the dirt.
Man it is complicated, 100 miles in that heel means alot,. How l saw his engine failed over Serbia, But he glided west. To Bosnia, Tuzla city, where are Bosnian Muslim majority so he was safe and saved. If he was little more concentrated and turn stick to the north west and if it was day he would succeed to land in Croatia Airport. Heroic and professional he was. U have The movie "Behind enemies lines" how l saw all thrue,
My weapons crew loaded and launched General Goldfein's F-16 that night "The Flagship." To find out he had been shot down spread quickly in the squadron and everyone on our shift refused to go home until he was found and returned home. He literally landed in a C130 recovery and rescue aircraft, exited and hugged his wife, waved at his unit and others out on the flight line, and went to the flight doctor to get checked. He was cleared and returned back to duty the next day and flew all over again... He embodies the definition of American heroism. I'm proud to have served with him, my armed forces brethren, and foreign allies.
Great story.. Another great documentary is the DHL A300 Shootdown out of Baghdad (controls shot, hydraulics gone and managed to land only with differential thrust). I think Nat Geographic did a full story on it
I was deployed to Cervia AB for the Kosovo Campaign. The first flight that landed after combat started was one of the best memories I have from my time in service. The C models landed and were on the taxiway to their ramp and we came outside of the HAS and saw AIM-7s and AIM-120s missing from rails. We found out later that three MIGS hade been shot down that night by 493 FS.
Clear text UHF war! Right after OAF ended some European amateur radio guy/gal uploaded dozens of audio files of the war. This shootdown was one of them! I downloaded a couple of them. I used to play them for our new co-pilots so they could get an idea of what the comms were like in fight.
What a start to a morning, rescue a future leader of the whole Air Force and then be like "so uh, looks like the chopper took a few good ones, shit lets get some chow" A whole bunch of badasses were made that day.
Hey Mover, Serbia here. Love your chanel. Was wondering why was his artificial horizon on HUD so offset to the left? Was that from very strong wind? Where do you think the got hit? Must've been quite far away blast not to be registered on footage. I know he was dragging an AN/ALE-50 decoy. Was that hit, but some debris ended up in turbine as well? Thx
wow thank you for decoding what they said accurately! this is better than the GR video on the topic in this aspect, although i can't really blame them for their lack of real aviation background... just a more of an entertainment kind of video from them
From the article: "The cockpit recording, which Goldfein confirmed was his, was recovered by the Serbs in the wreckage of his jet and has since made its way onto RUclips."
There were at least a couple of other successful rescues during that conflict. The ones I am familiar with include Basher 52 (Scott O'Grady) and Vega 31 (Dale Zelco). The latter was a highly experienced F-117 driver and I can just imagine how badly the bad guys wanted him. I remember that evening distinctly, being glued to CNN and hoping they'd get that guy out safe. Yes, the Aerospace Rescue & Recovery folks are the most unsung bad-asses in the AF. I had a chance to meet one of the dudes from the NYANG who was involved in the "Perfect Storm" rescue back in 1991, and who ultimately had to be rescued themselves after being forced to ditch their helo at night in hellacious sea conditions. Their stones are big and made of the finest brass.
Scott was shot down during war in Bosnia not in Serbia. Also that sentence "how badly bad guys wanted him". So bad guy is someone who defends his own country from terrorists and NATO. You are perfect example of people who trust propaganda created by media such as BBC, CNN etc
@@bijeliorao4800 No, I am just a US citizen who, like the citizens of most countries, supports the folks in my nation's military when they are in harm's way. Therefore, by definition, anyone who is trying to kill or capture them are the "bad guys", at least while conflict is in progress. Afterward, it is entirely possible that some can be friends. Hey, Ltc. Zelco, the F-117 driver who was shot down, has since become friends with Zoltan Dani, the fellow who led the anti-aircraft battery that shot down his aircraft. I know of another situation in which the roles were reversed and a USAF F-4 pilot who shot down a Vietnamese Mig pilot during that war have since found each other and become friends. Read B/G Cherry's book "My Enemy, My Friend." All 4 of these gentleman are glad that none of them were killed in their wartime encounters.
@@kevinmadore1794 except that in this case you should have in mind that our army had orders to enable safe extract of your pilots so that your other concerned US citizens wouldnt bomb civilian targets in retaliation, again. I get your love of fairytales, but the fact is that no one was looking for the guy, I even heard that the police was send to stop local civilians from searching the pilot.
And I would really like to ask you to imagine being a friend to the pilot of a foreign contry that dropped a fucking cluster bomb on the city center (hitting a hospital amongst other), after the "conflict" had finished. Your "good guys" were animals whatever the side you take.
Imagine being in a jet that could blow at any time , your going down , you have enemy guns Positions all around and you know your going to have to eject and please god they find you before the enemy do , so scary but this guy almost sounds like he’s bored 😂 honestly my respect to all of you is just so amazing
Hello, CWLemoinie. Would you be interested in record of air conversation of Su-34 avoiding Patriot SAM missiles on Ukraine? If yes, may i hope your help on correct translation of that record?
WHY did the pilot's 9 mm Beretta hand gun GO MISSING during ejection?? Most fighter jets today have a take-down AR (M4) carbine in the seat. WHY did his ejection seat have a TRAINING PARACHUTE? Seems that those who prepared this seat need to be demoted. Do the preparers sign their names to the seat labels?
There used to be a really intense video of an F-16 going down during the Gulf war.. I remember it because there was some dude doing weird poetry over the footage and radio comms. Anyone seen it and can link ??
@@petemitchell9996 well Serbia never tried to capture/kill American pilots but you cant choose where will your missile hit,it was a radar guided missile
No doubt they were listening. Heck I have a transceiver in my car that can get on Airforce S&R frequencies. Well I say that but I mean back years ago. I don't think they use the HF bands much anymore. My father once got his ass chewed for being on a military channel. Thinking it was in between the 50 or 60 meter band.
Imagine being in a jet that could blow at any time , your going down , you have enemy guns Positions all around and you know your going to have to eject and please god they find you before the enemy do , so scary but this guy almost sounds like he’s bored 😂 honestly my respect to all of you is just so amazing
After the war they found the canopy in the backyard of a local guy. He had found it and used it to make a dogshelter. The local museum at Belgrade airport managed to convince the guy to donate it, but in return they had to build his dog a new shelter(which they did) The canopy, along with a predator drone, are now on public display. If you ever manage to go to the museum don't have the coffee. I managed to ditch mine but a cactus lost its life in the process.
What's crazy, is my second commander was his wingman and talked about how terrified he was during the situation. Then later in my career, I worked with one of the rescue crew members who picked him up. Said Goldfein was as calm and collected as anyone was when they picked him up, and obviously was grateful. Still buys all of them a 5th every year on the anniversary. He's a good dude.
Didn't they attack Libya next; turning one of the richest and most developed countries in Africa into a lawless hell hole, ruled by militant gangs, who run slave markets and trafficking?! Didn't millions of migrants from Africa then pour into Europe, mostly transiting via Libya?
Reminds me of my boss' evasion in North Vietnam after ejecting from his F-4D, and evading for 23 days before being rescued (front seater didn't make it). He only talked about it once. Said he never left any food on his plate after that. Roger Locher. A fine man and a great boss. He was PACAF/SE when I worked for him.
@@ShopperPlug Radios work off radio waves, if anyone is determined enough they could find the right channel and listen to anything being transferred over radio waves.
@@IzmGunner01 No that’s horse crap my friend. Read my original comment carefully again. I said how can the enemy hear the US military’s communication if it was a secure communication. You probably don’t know the vast complexity radio wave communication really is. It is not just a simple “radio wave” as what a 7 years old is taught in school. You have your typical analog waves and the new digital radio waves. With the digital radio waves, it behaves like analog radio waves but has some serious complex math and algorithm implemented to send and receive digital logic communication between two parties using analog radio waves. With digital logic implementation, the communication can be encrypted and secure, which means no one would know jack shit in the radio channel the US military is communicating. You need to crack or decrypt the digital logic encryption in order to understand the radio wave communication. It’s not easy. Only a smart person who knows these specific details of history events like these can answer the question if the communication was secure or what not. The pilot seemed hella paranoid or it’s just a good habit to say as little information as possible because end of the day… Russians hackers really knows how to crack and hack things. I would be horrified if the communication was not a secure communication…
Commentary on the hud video of the F16 that avoided 6 SAM launches on inbound and egress to target on 1991/01/19 during the beginning of the Iraq war would be a great video as well.
"Stroke-3 Flight" First Gulf-War, Package Q Airstrike. SAMs hit one F-16 just as the last bombs were striking the oil refinery. As the flight egressed Baghdad, evading SAMs, another missile impacted near another F-16. Both aircraft were lost, but their pilots survived the war as POWs. One of the two lost aircraft managed to fly for 150 miles on the return route after taking an SA-3 missile just south of Baghdad, before the engine quit.[1] In all, the participants in the wild ride over the capital counted twenty SAMs in the air; one pilot dodged no fewer than six. Many of the F-16 aircraft sustained major or minor damage, but stayed airworthy.
Just don't forget it that Serbs saved 500 US airmen in WW2 from Nazis and that Serbs fought and defend western Europe 500 years against evil from the east, please read the history and then judge the oldest European nation, we are old defenders of christianity, big respect to the US pilots.
Thanks for the clarification of the video. I first saw this back in 2000 in a museum installation in Novi Sad where you could watch the video while sitting in the actual ejection seat from the airplane that was shot down. The seat is still on display, now in the aviation museum in Belgrade, along with pieces of the F-117, Tomahawks and a full size wooden MiG-29 decoy.
Didn’t know this. A lot of people also do not know that their SAM operators were among the best. Fingers was my Ops Group Commander (O-6) at Mtn Home AFB. He was again my boss a few years later as AFCENT/CC. Great dude! I had the pleasure of hearing his story in person a few times.
Dani Zoltan actually became friends with the pilot he shot down after the war. He has a bakery in a small village close to Belgrade. And a piece of the F-117 is displayed in an aviation musem in Belgrade. :) And he is actually hungarian. Born and raised in Serbia. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_F-117A_shootdown
There is good interveiws with the serb commander and he was an extrememly well sorted guy, constantly moving position, lots of training for his boys, very good outfit. Its fantastic that the 2 "enemies" meet after and had no anamosity towards each other
It seems crazy that the Cobras were around that long! When you started flying them, were they almost brand new? (as you can tell I'm not a pilot but) as a kid I always loved the Cobras.
With that coolness after getting hit, he must have played that scenario over in his mind thousands of times. He knew exactly what to check over and what to do based on what functionality he had. Great story. Much better outcome than many of the shoot downs during Vietnam.
The tragedy of bravery being spent on misplaced struggles... what a shame this was an illegal and immoral war they were sent to fight in. Anyone gonna talk abou that?
What are you talking about, Serbia committed the biggest genocide in Europe since the Holocaust. You should really rethink your own morality if you think we should have let them continue.
@@gregorymaupin6388 forrestal didn't have F18 Legacies until the early 90s and i think all those carriers are all retired now except for the Carl Vinson
Was lucky enough to hear him speak at my college right after he became CSAF: "and yeah, I'm on of those guys that has more takeoffs than landings..." wild story and everyone in it was professional as hell. Great speaker and great dude in person.
@@prissymommylife6402 its the AWACS controller ‘Magic’ talking to Hammer. Magic is asking for the equivalent of an electronic ping (here I am!) from Hammer for Magic to identify Hammer’s location.
He was very lucky that night because second rocket missed him by a mile. Rocket have tracking problem, witch was resolved later that May (not rocket but SNR-125 guidance radar)...But still he has steel nerves....
I have the FLIR video and audio from the lead MH-53M on the rescue. The lead aircraft commander retired a few years back as an O-6 (also was my old squadron commander) and the co-pilot on lead is now a 1-star and former 1st Special Operations Wing commander. I have some good buddies that were on that rescue that night, both on MH-53s and the MH-60G. Pave Low Leads
Wow C.W...this brought me back. I was TDY filling a gap for Intel Ops at the 510th FS...I took the call from the CAOC asking for Hammer's SAR Card...I had to repeat twice that it wasn't our jet (Hammer was with the 'Nickle' 555th FS). It was a surreal experience to be involved in bringing someone back...never forget it. There were a couple of other 'funny' things that happened that will never make it into any article but it was just an incredible time to be there.
Excellent video, especially coming from a former viper pilot, Mover, do you think you can do the HUD footage of Stroke 3 dodging 6 SAM’s during the gulf war?
Love that he stayed calm, and right to the end had his eye on staying alive, following protocol and knowing that the US and UK, we don't leave people behind. Just as an aside, maybe do a breakdown of the Russian pilot shot down over Syria who once surrounded by isis blew himself up with a grenade, rather than end up in a snuff video. That was also worthy.
How is it that nobody asks what were they doing in Serbia or Iraq, on the other side of the world? Who gives you the right to attack other ppl so far away without knowing anything about them?
I am stationed at Moody AFB, the base where the rescue group that came after him is stationed, and I got to meet him on a pass through to see the PJs. You don't know gratitude until you see that kinda gratitude
Sounds like the Air Force picked the right man to promote. From what Ive read hes one of the most respected officers in the air force in recent memory.
You should also be aware that serbian dudes on opposite side also had nerves of steel.:-) It is not easy to fight world's remaining superpower with product of 60s, okay they had also AN/TPS-70, 63 as early warning radars, but you got the point. Keep the good work C.W. :-)
The SAM commander who shot down the F-117 had his men practice shutting down and moving their sites in two minutes to minimize the time they could be shot at by HARMs. He dismissed anyone who he thought couldn't handle the pressure of being targeted. There were also the MiG-29 pilots who sortied without functioning RWRs, including one who was seconds away from getting a missile off before his plane was hit. A few desperate pilots who took off in trainers to try to disrupt raids against their hometowns. The Serbs were definitely more motivated than the Iraqis. It did help that Serbia is mountainous and the weather wasn't very good for much of the campaign.
@@RsRj-qd2cg The SAM commander who shot down the F117 was the same one who shot down this F16: Zoltan Dani. Indeed he trained his team to pack and move in half the standard time reqmt, but it wasn’t 2 minutes, it was sg like half an hour, if I remember well. The SA-3 is not a self-mobile platform, so that would be impossble. He also used many false transmitters to lure HARMs away from the real target. He was a very clever guy indeed - a baker btw in civil life, not even a professional soldier but a reservist, who continued his civil profession after the war...
"Vega 31" and "Tuna" ( code name's of both F117 pilot's) , the Charlie Heylain said that he believes that sistem who hit them was S-300 not S-3 Goa, cause he believe that S-3 Goa could not hit F117 stelt like that easy....🤭👍, If Yugoslavia (today Serbia) in that time was have S-300, they would shoot down all of the US airplanes 100% ...
I forgot to mention; his brother “Goldy” is a good dude also. I know him from my days working as a defense contractor as we were at the company and had mutual flying buddies. Goldy and I had a talk one day about leadership. As smart as he was, and with quite an exceptional career himself, he really praised his brother Fingers a lot during that discussion. IOW, he was secure enough in who he was to heap large helpings of praise on his brother. Not many people can do that sincerely from what I’ve seen, but it came very easy or natural for him to do it for his brother. Their parents did a good job raising them to instill the many positive character traits they both exhibited. - Ronbo
I ja brate, 16-17 godina. Medvedja na granici sa kosovom.....inače cela porodica je živela na kosovu....mamicu im Kako vole da glume heroje a nepričaju Kako su bolnice i vozove gadjali.....
@@defamationlaw when English and USA started with bombing of Germany in WW2 there was saying: Who sows wind will harvest storm. After four years of bloody war when Serbian forces bombarded Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Hercegovina, and Kosovo what Serbian government expected? Nobel prize for peace?
Being friends with one member of the crew of the unit that shot him down (the same guys shot down F-117) I know the other part of this story as well. Both stories are quite thrilling.
@@Aboleo80 Serbia is not a big country so most are probably true. I didn't meet any of that crew, but I remember seeing a fireball in the sky when F117 was shot down.
F-16 was shoot down with late 60 Neva air defence sistem ,F-117 Nighthawk also (some adjustments was done) Sorry we didn't know it was invisible ! Best greets from Serbia .
I was in the 555FS when this happened, Dave Goldfein was our commander, one of the best squadron commanders I ever had. We were all sick to our stomachs when he got shot down.
Can you please also break down Lt Col Zelko's(the F-117 pilot) shootdown and rescue, if possible? We the viewers would love to hear your insights on that event since you covered General Goldfein's(he was my wing CC at one time when he was an F-117 pilot) shootdown during the same conflict. Thank you.
I wish I had seen this before I met General Goldfein earlier this year. Not only is he cool under pressure but surprisingly cool when confronted with jokes about being a member of the more takeoffs than landings club.
Fingers was the best CC I ever worked for. I was a young E5 and an Avionics tech back then...I was also the ECM/RTWS guy...my heart sank when I heard the news when I got to shift that morning...only to be relieved when they told me “oh but we picked him up...he’s back now” great CC was an even better CSAF.
The story goes that when he got back to Aviano, the flight surgeon wanted to evaluate him. He told him that he only had x amount of time to examine him because he was going in to crew rest and was ready to start flying the next day.
Somewhere on RUclips there's an interview with a Serbian officer who was tasked with capturing the pilot. I've always found it interesting to hear what the other side has to say.
A great story indeed! And one that we in AF Rescue are very proud of! (Gen. Goldfein (Ret) was quite happy with his Rescue forces as well for the remainder of his career!). ;)
I really enjoy the insight you give with translating the jargon. I had seen this HUD before but dang!! it really adds a level of reality when you break it down and explain what we are actually seeing and hearing.
It's easy to act heroic when you got superior planes with superior weapons and you outnumber your enemy by 30 to 1. Yugoslavian air force had MIG-s which were ready for a remont years ago but couldn't do it due to sanctions. They were flying without radars, radio communication, aso. To get up and fight the whole NATO, that is where you need balls of steel.
Fun fact: The pilot survived and proceeded to change his name to Owen Wilson for safety reasons. He then pursued a Hollywood acting career and eventually landed a role in a 2001 movie called "Behind Enemy Lines" in which he got to play himself.
The spicy part of the story is that Goldfein's F-16 was a part of a USAF special search party intended to find and destroy the battery that downed F-117 several days before. They were trained and armed for counter-SAM warfare. They didn't find the SAM battery, but...well...the SAM found them.
I am from Serbia and I was mobilized in that unfortunate 1999. On the night of May 2, I was at VOST (VISUAL SURVEILLANCE OF THE FIELD). That night, I was sitting on a meadow with a radio station and personal weapons (AK 48 and a BERETA F 22 pistol) and watching the sky over Serbia. We were not allowed to turn on the radars and use any technique because we were weaker against you both militarily and technically. I also know a man who was in charge of the air defense that night and who was responsible for shooting down f 16. That night we knew your every move, the pilot who landed on Serbian soil, as well as the units you sent on a rescue mission. The military did not want to look for your pilot or in any way stop your rescue operation. We even ensured that you entered our territory safely and pulled out your pilot. That was our policy then, so that they would not resent you even more and so that they would not shoot at our civilian targets, because you also knew how to do that. That pilot was searched by ordinary people that night with hunting rifles, and whoever had what, about thirty people from that nearby village were looking for him with civilian vehicles through the night. The army was ordered to intercept civilians and not allow them to interfere in your action in any way. So much from me. I just want to say that it wasn't all as "cool" as the gentleman wants to portray. It is also heard in the voice of the pilot who was brought down that he did not care at all and that he was scared, which is completely normal, understandable and simply human (if it were not otherwise normal) he still fell into the then "enemy territory". I want you to know that by any chance it was ordered that night, I'm sure none of your soldiers would return home alive. Thank GOD, so even then there were people who had enough understanding not to deepen the conflict that you started and to kill each other as soon as possible. Do you know that that year was the most beautiful spring in the last 100 years, know that for many of us that spring did not exist that year. There were many civilian casualties that year and much innocent blood was shed. It was, it passed and it never happened again. Let us never forget the innocent victims who lost their lives that beautiful spring (such as Mila, who was only 3 years old), without being involved in any segment in that insane killing and savagery. I wish you all all the best and may there be peace in the future !!!
Dont ruin their story lol. They like to make fairytales and movies later on based on them. The army command was affraid of the retaliatory attack on the civilian targets (a method that this criminal organization has already done several times before whenever they were hit). Our guys shot down the god damn F-16 and they think the army couldnt destroy several helicopters..our brothers on the other side of Drina though..probably would have strap the pilot to a radar:)
Yep, we also had orders to let them pick up pilots. Once it was very close since they were going straight to our position. I was in 12. brigade arj pvo near Beska. And I dont wish them all the best but all the worst, since I know how cowardly they behaved targeting civilians when they couldnt find us, and I say COWARDS because they didnt fly lower to find us...it is much easier to shot civilian target than to engage in real fight. bitches.
@@bbeelluuttaakk lol, straping pilots or any military man was really shocking when it happened ... i wonder if there are stories of those poor men anywhere on internet? ... i cant remeber now were they members of peacekeeping mission or regular army ?
Great reply. But western propaganda in making savages of us. Of course we could down any of their helicopters. We shot down F117, and maybe two more F117, but they fell somewhere else and we shot B2. And they think we could not shoot down helicopters. I served in 126. brigade, but haven't been in war because i was born few years earliers, but i have honour to serve with people who were there and who told me what was happening and what our men did to fight against whole Europe and US. Many things they told me was never said anywhere in media because west forbids that. And radars they used back in that days are still operational and still work good and of course we still see every exercise and everything that surrounding NATO countries are doing. 🇷🇸
@@charlieharper2529 a pilot by himself and unarmed against an entire battalion in Siberia and you still say their weaker. Wow you must think awful highly of that man. He is a hero but I really don’t think the odds were on his side.
@@badbatch974 he wasnt fighting alone, he had US military and NATO behind him. Serbia has 7 million people and was blocked by its neighbors for 10 years.
@@charlieharper2529 did you watch the video? The whole of the USAF and nato did not crash their planes and have to escape from behind enemy lines. It was one man, by himself. Unless you think that’s an easy task? I really don’t care where your from or what side you you prefer. I still say he’s a hero and if you doubt that your wrong.
article i "believe" mover is referencing.... www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2019/06/19/start-finding-me-boys-inside-the-rescue-of-lt-col-dave-goldfein/
Dude’s All “We Don’t Kill Pilots” Meanwhile He’s Ejecting Into Enemy Territory Literally For Being Shot Down In An Attempt To Indeed “Kill The Pilot” 🧐🥴
from a F-16 to throwing rocks like a caveman, what a night.
Who did he throw rocks at? I thought he got rescued.
@@RsRj-qd2cg @10:23 he had to throw rocks at an animal
If I remember right, he went and flew a combat mission again the next day or something like that. Didn't want the shoot down to rattle the squadron.
@@Panzerfaust-zu7pq Being Serbia, probably a bear or wolf
Wildman of the region......call em woodboogers in GA
"That others may live" is, without a doubt, the most badass motto ever used by any military unit ever.
The coast guard's old unofficial "you have to go out, but you don't have to come back" is kinda up there as well imo
@@radoToy As someone who's served in the Coast Guard, Really appreciate you mentioning
That one and Acknowledging it.
"Semper Paratus"
Because this story ended well, I really appreciate this. Would love for you to do more hud footage analysis. It would be helpful if you could give more details to help the average civilian commerical pilot understand his military brethren.
Those chopper crews that rescued hammer 34 are great.
BADASS FREAKING MAN. His story literally sounds like it could be a mission in a video game. Or a movie. He deserves his story to be told. Just think, somewhere out in the rural fields of Serbia. Is General Goldfein's Barretta in the dirt.
Man it is complicated, 100 miles in that heel means alot,. How l saw his engine failed over Serbia, But he glided west. To Bosnia, Tuzla city, where are Bosnian Muslim majority so he was safe and saved. If he was little more concentrated and turn stick to the north west and if it was day he would succeed to land in Croatia Airport. Heroic and professional he was.
U have The movie "Behind enemies lines" how l saw all thrue,
My weapons crew loaded and launched General Goldfein's F-16 that night "The Flagship." To find out he had been shot down spread quickly in the squadron and everyone on our shift refused to go home until he was found and returned home. He literally landed in a C130 recovery and rescue aircraft, exited and hugged his wife, waved at his unit and others out on the flight line, and went to the flight doctor to get checked. He was cleared and returned back to duty the next day and flew all over again... He embodies the definition of American heroism. I'm proud to have served with him, my armed forces brethren, and foreign allies.
Great story.. Another great documentary is the DHL A300 Shootdown out of Baghdad (controls shot, hydraulics gone and managed to land only with differential thrust). I think Nat Geographic did a full story on it
Incredible story, very chilling words when you understand the situation, wow! Nerves of steel paid off followed by a great rescue. Thanks Mover.
"start finding me boys"
dude that give me chills👌
Pilot after ejecting: "Alright, evade just like training."
Also pilot while floating down: ::Looks up:: Alrighty then...
I just poured a shot for this dude, nothing but respect
Calm cool and collected. You guys are all warriors what a terrifying but awesome story thanks for shining light on it!
I was deployed to Cervia AB for the Kosovo Campaign. The first flight that landed after combat started was one of the best memories I have from my time in service. The C models landed and were on the taxiway to their ramp and we came outside of the HAS and saw AIM-7s and AIM-120s missing from rails. We found out later that three MIGS hade been shot down that night by 493 FS.
Clear text UHF war! Right after OAF ended some European amateur radio guy/gal uploaded dozens of audio files of the war. This shootdown was one of them! I downloaded a couple of them. I used to play them for our new co-pilots so they could get an idea of what the comms were like in fight.
Very cool. Thanks for this mover. Makes a guy appreciate not having to be in war
He had that training chute packed for a reason, to show off the size of his cajones.
You did forget one...BRASS NUTS, the size of bowling balls! My salute to you and COS Fingers. Well done
What a start to a morning, rescue a future leader of the whole Air Force and then be like "so uh, looks like the chopper took a few good ones, shit lets get some chow" A whole bunch of badasses were made that day.
Best video or review. Thank you. Please do more
Hey Mover, Serbia here. Love your chanel. Was wondering why was his artificial horizon on HUD so offset to the left? Was that from very strong wind?
Where do you think the got hit? Must've been quite far away blast not to be registered on footage. I know he was dragging an AN/ALE-50 decoy. Was that hit, but some debris ended up in turbine as well?
Thx
wow thank you for decoding what they said accurately! this is better than the GR video on the topic in this aspect, although i can't really blame them for their lack of real aviation background... just a more of an entertainment kind of video from them
How'd the HUD tape get back into US hands? Recovered by SAR? Genuinely curious
From the article: "The cockpit recording, which Goldfein confirmed was his, was recovered by the Serbs in the wreckage of his jet and has since made its way onto RUclips."
@@stormingdemon Thanks!
@@stormingdemon Thankfully he didn't end up on RUclips (which didn't exist at that time).
@@cassiespencer6134 or worse yet, liveleak.
There were at least a couple of other successful rescues during that conflict. The ones I am familiar with include Basher 52 (Scott O'Grady) and Vega 31 (Dale Zelco). The latter was a highly experienced F-117 driver and I can just imagine how badly the bad guys wanted him. I remember that evening distinctly, being glued to CNN and hoping they'd get that guy out safe. Yes, the Aerospace Rescue & Recovery folks are the most unsung bad-asses in the AF. I had a chance to meet one of the dudes from the NYANG who was involved in the "Perfect Storm" rescue back in 1991, and who ultimately had to be rescued themselves after being forced to ditch their helo at night in hellacious sea conditions. Their stones are big and made of the finest brass.
Scott was shot down during war in Bosnia not in Serbia. Also that sentence "how badly bad guys wanted him". So bad guy is someone who defends his own country from terrorists and NATO. You are perfect example of people who trust propaganda created by media such as BBC, CNN etc
@@bijeliorao4800 No, I am just a US citizen who, like the citizens of most countries, supports the folks in my nation's military when they are in harm's way. Therefore, by definition, anyone who is trying to kill or capture them are the "bad guys", at least while conflict is in progress. Afterward, it is entirely possible that some can be friends. Hey, Ltc. Zelco, the F-117 driver who was shot down, has since become friends with Zoltan Dani, the fellow who led the anti-aircraft battery that shot down his aircraft. I know of another situation in which the roles were reversed and a USAF F-4 pilot who shot down a Vietnamese Mig pilot during that war have since found each other and become friends. Read B/G Cherry's book "My Enemy, My Friend." All 4 of these gentleman are glad that none of them were killed in their wartime encounters.
@@kevinmadore1794 except that in this case you should have in mind that our army had orders to enable safe extract of your pilots so that your other concerned US citizens wouldnt bomb civilian targets in retaliation, again. I get your love of fairytales, but the fact is that no one was looking for the guy, I even heard that the police was send to stop local civilians from searching the pilot.
And I would really like to ask you to imagine being a friend to the pilot of a foreign contry that dropped a fucking cluster bomb on the city center (hitting a hospital amongst other), after the "conflict" had finished. Your "good guys" were animals whatever the side you take.
@@bbeelluuttaakk It's amazing how brainwashed they are isn't it. Stalin would be envious.
Imagine being in a jet that could blow at any time , your going down , you have enemy guns Positions all around and you know your going to have to eject and please god they find you before the enemy do , so scary but this guy almost sounds like he’s bored 😂 honestly my respect to all of you is just so amazing
Mover, loved this. Thanks. Go Air Force! (20 year Avionics guy) PP for 40 years. N-6395T EAB.
Hello, CWLemoinie. Would you be interested in record of air conversation of Su-34 avoiding Patriot SAM missiles on Ukraine? If yes, may i hope your help on correct translation of that record?
WHY did the pilot's 9 mm Beretta hand gun GO MISSING during ejection?? Most fighter jets today have a take-down AR (M4) carbine in the seat.
WHY did his ejection seat have a TRAINING PARACHUTE?
Seems that those who prepared this seat need to be demoted. Do the preparers sign their names to the seat labels?
Danish Air Force has a long video with a pilot who had to eject after a gear failure on takeoff.
Great Story! Huge Balls.
Dude you got 35 minute long commercials, do you choose these?
No.
I hear the choppers hovering...
I think at 1:30 he D/L'd stpt 41 to hammer 3 because you hear the D/L sound
At that time a F16AM J063 from the royal Dutch Airforce shoot down a mig29.
There used to be a really intense video of an F-16 going down during the Gulf war.. I remember it because there was some dude doing weird poetry over the footage and radio comms. Anyone seen it and can link ??
This is like a CoD mission
Totally badass
That was good.
"Don't say my position again". Chilling words, knowing you are going to be on the ground fighting for your very survival in just moments.
It's Serbia, they didn't kill any pilots who ejected. (unless you mean landing in the middle of nowhere)
@@monkegames6133 the only pilot that got killed is I belive the one that got hit by a SAM directly in the cockpit
We don't kill pilots don't worry. We're not savages as shown by the CNN during the war.
@@petemitchell9996 well Serbia never tried to capture/kill American pilots but you cant choose where will your missile hit,it was a radar guided missile
No doubt they were listening. Heck I have a transceiver in my car that can get on Airforce S&R frequencies. Well I say that but I mean back years ago. I don't think they use the HF bands much anymore. My father once got his ass chewed for being on a military channel. Thinking it was in between the 50 or 60 meter band.
Imagine being in a jet that could blow at any time , your going down , you have enemy guns Positions all around and you know your going to have to eject and please god they find you before the enemy do , so scary but this guy almost sounds like he’s bored 😂 honestly my respect to all of you is just so amazing
After the war they found the canopy in the backyard of a local guy. He had found it and used it to make a dogshelter.
The local museum at Belgrade airport managed to convince the guy to donate it, but in return they had to build his dog a new shelter(which they did)
The canopy, along with a predator drone, are now on public display.
If you ever manage to go to the museum don't have the coffee. I managed to ditch mine but a cactus lost its life in the process.
The cactus died so others may know not to drink the coffee at Belgrade airport
Murderer! What did that poor cactus ever do to you?
Lol
I had no idea Predator MQ-1 were around in the 90's.. first I saw/heard of them was Afghan
Thanks for the info 👍❤
imagine being a dog living in a jet canopy
Do a breakdown of an f16 pilot evading 6 SAMs from 1991
That'd be awesome.
Or even some Vipers in the Storm video footage there is out there.
Without Chaff / ECM..
Here's the vid: ruclips.net/video/2uh4yMAx2UA/видео.html
Took the words RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH... 😉😂
I would love to hear a breakdown of the BENJY 53 incident from 17 Feb 1991 over Iraq.
My testosterone levels increased by 33% from listening to this story.
Testosterone, is a wonderful drug when performing under stress!
33% from 0% it’s a start at least!
@@SnackBar762 maybe one day you’ll get up to 33%
more like cortisole
@@TheDa6781 😂
What's crazy, is my second commander was his wingman and talked about how terrified he was during the situation. Then later in my career, I worked with one of the rescue crew members who picked him up. Said Goldfein was as calm and collected as anyone was when they picked him up, and obviously was grateful. Still buys all of them a 5th every year on the anniversary. He's a good dude.
Gen Fingers Goldfein is a badass and incredible leader that got the Air Force back on the right track. Nicely done, Mover!
@Juha Bach what are you talking about?
@@Deuce_Dufresne Juha Bach is a douche, he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Didn't they attack Libya next; turning one of the richest and most developed countries in Africa into a lawless hell hole, ruled by militant gangs, who run slave markets and trafficking?!
Didn't millions of migrants from Africa then pour into Europe, mostly transiting via Libya?
@@tropickman it was Mark Welsh III
@@tropickman refugees came to Europe from Syria
Reminds me of my boss' evasion in North Vietnam after ejecting from his F-4D, and evading for 23 days before being rescued (front seater didn't make it). He only talked about it once. Said he never left any food on his plate after that. Roger Locher. A fine man and a great boss. He was PACAF/SE when I worked for him.
Lodge didn't make it. I know the sad story.
Oyster Flight
did the pilot not have time to eject or did they lose their life later on when evading?
@@abandonedaccount123 i think the g forces made it impossible for him to reach the ejection handles
@@pontiacGXPfan oh, rip :(
He had to glide down because those giant balls outweighed the available thrust.
😂
😂
I learned this is ground school
And the ice in his veins were freezing up the A/C systems.
Big balls to bomb third world country without any serious fire power
Definitely has to be scary being hit with a missile. My job in the Navy was anti-ship missile defense so I definitely wanted to be good at it
R2-D2?
@@mjl1966y EW but was good buddies with the FC's
@@MartinGarcia-ok5hb birds away salvo size 2!
@@raandyy right on!
Yeah, not as scary as being bombed though.
Pilot: “Stop saying my position”
Enemy: “damn”
(Bright orange and white parachute appears)
Enemy: “He had us in the first half, I’m not gonna lie”
It was 2am, they didn't see a thing
@@redonsundays they could still see it that’s why they sent a search party to try and find him and capture him
I don’t understand how the enemy could hear the US military’s radio communication. Was it not a secure communication?
@@ShopperPlug Radios work off radio waves, if anyone is determined enough they could find the right channel and listen to anything being transferred over radio waves.
@@IzmGunner01 No that’s horse crap my friend. Read my original comment carefully again. I said how can the enemy hear the US military’s communication if it was a secure communication. You probably don’t know the vast complexity radio wave communication really is. It is not just a simple “radio wave” as what a 7 years old is taught in school. You have your typical analog waves and the new digital radio waves. With the digital radio waves, it behaves like analog radio waves but has some serious complex math and algorithm implemented to send and receive digital logic communication between two parties using analog radio waves. With digital logic implementation, the communication can be encrypted and secure, which means no one would know jack shit in the radio channel the US military is communicating. You need to crack or decrypt the digital logic encryption in order to understand the radio wave communication. It’s not easy. Only a smart person who knows these specific details of history events like these can answer the question if the communication was secure or what not. The pilot seemed hella paranoid or it’s just a good habit to say as little information as possible because end of the day… Russians hackers really knows how to crack and hack things. I would be horrified if the communication was not a secure communication…
Commentary on the hud video of the F16 that avoided 6 SAM launches on inbound and egress to target on 1991/01/19 during the beginning of the Iraq war would be a great video as well.
"Stroke-3 Flight" First Gulf-War, Package Q Airstrike.
SAMs hit one F-16 just as the last bombs were striking the oil refinery. As the flight egressed Baghdad, evading SAMs, another missile impacted near another F-16. Both aircraft were lost, but their pilots survived the war as POWs. One of the two lost aircraft managed to fly for 150 miles on the return route after taking an SA-3 missile just south of Baghdad, before the engine quit.[1] In all, the participants in the wild ride over the capital counted twenty SAMs in the air; one pilot dodged no fewer than six. Many of the F-16 aircraft sustained major or minor damage, but stayed airworthy.
Just don't forget it that Serbs saved 500 US airmen in WW2 from Nazis and that Serbs fought and defend western Europe 500 years against evil from the east, please read the history and then judge the oldest European nation, we are old defenders of christianity, big respect to the US pilots.
Thanks for the clarification of the video. I first saw this back in 2000 in a museum installation in Novi Sad where you could watch the video while sitting in the actual ejection seat from the airplane that was shot down. The seat is still on display, now in the aviation museum in Belgrade, along with pieces of the F-117, Tomahawks and a full size wooden MiG-29 decoy.
Fun fact, the same SAM battery shot down F-117, same commander Zoltan Dani
Didn’t know this. A lot of people also do not know that their SAM operators were among the best. Fingers was my Ops Group Commander (O-6) at Mtn Home AFB. He was again my boss a few years later as AFCENT/CC. Great dude! I had the pleasure of hearing his story in person a few times.
Dani Zoltan actually became friends with the pilot he shot down after the war. He has a bakery in a small village close to Belgrade. And a piece of the F-117 is displayed in an aviation musem in Belgrade. :)
And he is actually hungarian. Born and raised in Serbia.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_F-117A_shootdown
That's interesting to hear, and I think its always cool to hear that they met up after the war.
There is good interveiws with the serb commander and he was an extrememly well sorted guy, constantly moving position, lots of training for his boys, very good outfit. Its fantastic that the 2 "enemies" meet after and had no anamosity towards each other
Zoltan Dani did a very careful selection for his crew. A lot of soldiers failed at the stress test.
What a fucking badass...
"Start finding me boys" and "I'm a glider now"
How did his plane even take off with the weight of his massive balls of steel
We gave your pilot back...
Brings back memories of radio chatter between aircraft when I flew Cobra gunships in Vietnam...very similar scenarios.
That's awesome. I can't begin to imagine how stressful that job would be.
It seems crazy that the Cobras were around that long! When you started flying them, were they almost brand new? (as you can tell I'm not a pilot but) as a kid I always loved the Cobras.
With that coolness after getting hit, he must have played that scenario over in his mind thousands of times. He knew exactly what to check over and what to do based on what functionality he had. Great story. Much better outcome than many of the shoot downs during Vietnam.
The tragedy of bravery being spent on misplaced struggles... what a shame this was an illegal and immoral war they were sent to fight in. Anyone gonna talk abou that?
What are you talking about, Serbia committed the biggest genocide in Europe since the Holocaust. You should really rethink your own morality if you think we should have let them continue.
3 months before I was born, and yet I'm here filling out my RAF application. That's surreal.
good luck
Good luck!
@@Anuj-2 @eidwsatan Thank you!
You got this ❤️
Go get em and keep us informed
I’ve seen three ejections on or near my aircraft carrier, my hat is off to those who fly fighters.
Thank you for your service👍
To be clear I observed firsthand an ejection of a KA-6 Intruder ejection on the catapult.
What carrier were you on?
@@pontiacGXPfan Forrestal, Lexington and the Carl Vincent
@@gregorymaupin6388 forrestal didn't have F18 Legacies until the early 90s and i think all those carriers are all retired now except for the Carl Vinson
Was lucky enough to hear him speak at my college right after he became CSAF: "and yeah, I'm on of those guys that has more takeoffs than landings..." wild story and everyone in it was professional as hell. Great speaker and great dude in person.
Even the guys who shot him down! They also did a great job! Greetings from Serbia
“Hammer this is Magic, can you give me Flash?” Probably the coolest sounding line
😎👌🏽 What Does It Mean?
@@prissymommylife6402 its the AWACS controller ‘Magic’ talking to Hammer. Magic is asking for the equivalent of an electronic ping (here I am!) from Hammer for Magic to identify Hammer’s location.
AZ Stang Wow! I Really Appreciate Your Explanation. Thank You So Much! 😘🙏🏽
The “PJ’s” to the rescue. Outstanding job all around.
Flash is for him to enable his mode 4 transponder. On the E-3 his position on the screen flashes
He was very lucky that night because second rocket missed him by a mile. Rocket have tracking problem, witch was resolved later that May (not rocket but SNR-125 guidance radar)...But still he has steel nerves....
That's why s-125 always shoot two missiles. There is no option to shoot only one. Chances are 75-90% to hit with one, but with 2 it's almost 100%.
I have the FLIR video and audio from the lead MH-53M on the rescue. The lead aircraft commander retired a few years back as an O-6 (also was my old squadron commander) and the co-pilot on lead is now a 1-star and former 1st Special Operations Wing commander. I have some good buddies that were on that rescue that night, both on MH-53s and the MH-60G. Pave Low Leads
That would be cool if we could get Dave Goldfein to do an interview with you.
"Oh yes", that would be great!
I'm assuming, if he became chief of staff. He wasn't exactly the rebel they portrayed him as in the movies?
@@ernielarkin4793 That film was terrible.
Wow C.W...this brought me back. I was TDY filling a gap for Intel Ops at the 510th FS...I took the call from the CAOC asking for Hammer's SAR Card...I had to repeat twice that it wasn't our jet (Hammer was with the 'Nickle' 555th FS). It was a surreal experience to be involved in bringing someone back...never forget it. There were a couple of other 'funny' things that happened that will never make it into any article but it was just an incredible time to be there.
Excellent video, especially coming from a former viper pilot,
Mover, do you think you can do the HUD footage of Stroke 3 dodging 6 SAM’s during the gulf war?
Man that video scares me. What a terrifying situation
Apparently his countermeasures were broken too, shot at 6 times and he got out with his skill alone.
@@olivialambert4124 he was later shot down
@@SeekerHead not on that sortie he wasn’t
Love that he stayed calm, and right to the end had his eye on staying alive, following protocol and knowing that the US and UK, we don't leave people behind.
Just as an aside, maybe do a breakdown of the Russian pilot shot down over Syria who once surrounded by isis blew himself up with a grenade, rather than end up in a snuff video. That was also worthy.
Weird....I thought the pilots name was Owen Wilson....
Bro, I just laughed so hard at this comment. If only more people know of Behind Enemy Lines, and how it was pulled from actual events.
Cant confuse bad assery and propaganda.
Plus Owen Wilson was a WSO in the back so her wasn’t doing jack shit in the airplane lol
I'm a glider boys and start finding me boys. The amount of calmness that man had after a hostile area missle strike was just insane.
yeah, he says that in a tone like hes just buying coffee at a damned cafeteria or something. Cohones extraordinaire.
How is it that nobody asks what were they doing in Serbia or Iraq, on the other side of the world? Who gives you the right to attack other ppl so far away without knowing anything about them?
They are hiding their crimes
they were doing what serbia was doing in kosovo and what iraq was doing in kuwait. rings any bells?
"Lt. Col Goldfein" is a weird thing to hear when you know that he was saved by your rescue group and became "General Goldfein" the CSAF
I love how he still stays in close contact with the PJs and crew that saved him.
I am stationed at Moody AFB, the base where the rescue group that came after him is stationed, and I got to meet him on a pass through to see the PJs. You don't know gratitude until you see that kinda gratitude
Sounds like the Air Force picked the right man to promote. From what Ive read hes one of the most respected officers in the air force in recent memory.
You should also be aware that serbian dudes on opposite side also had nerves of steel.:-) It is not easy to fight world's remaining superpower with product of 60s, okay they had also AN/TPS-70, 63 as early warning radars, but you got the point. Keep the good work C.W. :-)
The more I learn about what actually happened there... the more I’m convinced we fought against the wrong people.
The SAM commander who shot down the F-117 had his men practice shutting down and moving their sites in two minutes to minimize the time they could be shot at by HARMs. He dismissed anyone who he thought couldn't handle the pressure of being targeted.
There were also the MiG-29 pilots who sortied without functioning RWRs, including one who was seconds away from getting a missile off before his plane was hit. A few desperate pilots who took off in trainers to try to disrupt raids against their hometowns. The Serbs were definitely more motivated than the Iraqis. It did help that Serbia is mountainous and the weather wasn't very good for much of the campaign.
250th AD enters chat. xD
@@RsRj-qd2cg The SAM commander who shot down the F117 was the same one who shot down this F16: Zoltan Dani. Indeed he trained his team to pack and move in half the standard time reqmt, but it wasn’t 2 minutes, it was sg like half an hour, if I remember well. The SA-3 is not a self-mobile platform, so that would be impossble. He also used many false transmitters to lure HARMs away from the real target. He was a very clever guy indeed - a baker btw in civil life, not even a professional soldier but a reservist, who continued his civil profession after the war...
@@ThomasCallahanJr We were hoping that one day America is going to see what they had done in Serbia... Thank you for your nice words.
Stupid question: Aren't the comms encrypted? (Referring to Hammer 34 requesting that they should stop talking about his position)
would you bet your life on it being encrypted?
Why do you worry about your house getting robbed? Don’t you have locks?
Most of the comms are encrypted. Important flight data of course. There are many things our (Serbian) SAM operators couldn't understand.
What if someone unintentionally transmits on 123.45. That ain't encrypted.
As a prior service Army commo guy, I was wondering the same thing. We changed COMSEC regularly in Iraq. Not sure what things were like in 99 though.
"Vega 31" and "Tuna" ( code name's of both F117 pilot's) , the Charlie Heylain said that he believes that sistem who hit them was S-300 not S-3 Goa, cause he believe that S-3 Goa could not hit F117 stelt like that easy....🤭👍, If Yugoslavia (today Serbia) in that time was have S-300, they would shoot down all of the US airplanes 100% ...
I forgot to mention; his brother “Goldy” is a good dude also. I know him from my days working as a defense contractor as we were at the company and had mutual flying buddies. Goldy and I had a talk one day about leadership. As smart as he was, and with quite an exceptional career himself, he really praised his brother Fingers a lot during that discussion. IOW, he was secure enough in who he was to heap large helpings of praise on his brother. Not many people can do that sincerely from what I’ve seen, but it came very easy or natural for him to do it for his brother. Their parents did a good job raising them to instill the many positive character traits they both exhibited. - Ronbo
When that happend I was 14 years old 10km from that willge in small city obrenovac.. I lookd planes and aaa shooting from my balcony...
I ja brate, 16-17 godina. Medvedja na granici sa kosovom.....inače cela porodica je živela na kosovu....mamicu im Kako vole da glume heroje a nepričaju Kako su bolnice i vozove gadjali.....
@@scuderia747bhp Srbska vojska je četiri godine razarala bolnice u Hrvatskoj. Pogledaj bolnice u Vukovaru i Pakracu npr.
@@VladimirTironi war is bad. Horrible horrible
@@defamationlaw when English and USA started with bombing of Germany in WW2 there was saying: Who sows wind will harvest storm. After four years of bloody war when Serbian forces bombarded Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Hercegovina, and Kosovo what Serbian government expected? Nobel prize for peace?
@@VladimirTironi You will get nobel price for toxic lies,enjoy your misery!
Being friends with one member of the crew of the unit that shot him down (the same guys shot down F-117) I know the other part of this story as well. Both stories are quite thrilling.
Would be glad to hear it :)
What’s the story
He’s lying like a bitch
I swear every Serb on RUclips claims they a friends with someone from the crew 🙄
@@Aboleo80 Serbia is not a big country so most are probably true. I didn't meet any of that crew, but I remember seeing a fireball in the sky when F117 was shot down.
I remember reading Scott O'Grady's "Basher Five-Two" book as a kid. Truly amazing stories.
@Scott Graham I read Lone Survivor that Navy SEAL book that was an amazing true life story
I think the Scott O'Grady extraction was the one he was referring to as not following protocol,
The book sounds a little different than the reality.
F-16 was shoot down with late 60 Neva air defence sistem ,F-117 Nighthawk also (some adjustments was done)
Sorry we didn't know it was invisible !
Best greets from Serbia .
Hell yeah fuck nato 🤟
117 is first gen and out dated stealth.
@@testy462 not in 1999
I was in the 555FS when this happened, Dave Goldfein was our commander, one of the best squadron commanders I ever had. We were all sick to our stomachs when he got shot down.
Was he injured?
so impressive how calm he stays!
surreality and adrenaline the ultimate combination
Can you please also break down Lt Col Zelko's(the F-117 pilot) shootdown and rescue, if possible? We the viewers would love to hear your insights on that event since you covered General Goldfein's(he was my wing CC at one time when he was an F-117 pilot) shootdown during the same conflict. Thank you.
I wish I had seen this before I met General Goldfein earlier this year. Not only is he cool under pressure but surprisingly cool when confronted with jokes about being a member of the more takeoffs than landings club.
Fingers was the best CC I ever worked for. I was a young E5 and an Avionics tech back then...I was also the ECM/RTWS guy...my heart sank when I heard the news when I got to shift that morning...only to be relieved when they told me “oh but we picked him up...he’s back now” great CC was an even better CSAF.
Was he injured at all?
Start Finding me Boys.. "I wanna be Chief of Staff..." The missing part of that RT call
And, plus, all of the pilots are captured from Serbian Army and realised after alive...
The story goes that when he got back to Aviano, the flight surgeon wanted to evaluate him. He told him that he only had x amount of time to examine him because he was going in to crew rest and was ready to start flying the next day.
He can't flying the day if he ejects from an aircraft. There is a waiting period involved for safety reasons
@@GeeBee909 not necessarily during contingency operations. I know a guy, personally who flew a day after ejecting while we were in Afghanistan.
Somewhere on RUclips there's an interview with a Serbian officer who was tasked with capturing the pilot. I've always found it interesting to hear what the other side has to say.
Can you give me link?
"Start finding me boys" and "Let's roll" should be carved in granite at the entrance to the BAMF hall of fame.
A great story indeed! And one that we in AF Rescue are very proud of! (Gen. Goldfein (Ret) was quite happy with his Rescue forces as well for the remainder of his career!). ;)
Much respect to you sir, and all who ride or drive the jolly greens!
"Magic" is the call sign for either the NATO or UK AWACS. Since it wasn't a British accent, probably the former. They were not GCI.
I really enjoy the insight you give with translating the jargon. I had seen this HUD before but dang!! it really adds a level of reality when you break it down and explain what we are actually seeing and hearing.
It's easy to act heroic when you got superior planes with superior weapons and you outnumber your enemy by 30 to 1. Yugoslavian air force had MIG-s which were ready for a remont years ago but couldn't do it due to sanctions. They were flying without radars, radio communication, aso. To get up and fight the whole NATO, that is where you need balls of steel.
You-go what? Sounds Europoor 2 me 🇺🇲😎
@@randykitchleburger2780 It's easy fighting with best technology against people who didn't have anything
Have some more 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Fun fact: The pilot survived and proceeded to change his name to Owen Wilson for safety reasons. He then pursued a Hollywood acting career and eventually landed a role in a 2001 movie called "Behind Enemy Lines" in which he got to play himself.
The spicy part of the story is that Goldfein's F-16 was a part of a USAF special search party intended to find and destroy the battery that downed F-117 several days before.
They were trained and armed for counter-SAM warfare. They didn't find the SAM battery, but...well...the SAM found them.
I am from Serbia and I was mobilized in that unfortunate 1999. On the night of May 2, I was at VOST (VISUAL SURVEILLANCE OF THE FIELD). That night, I was sitting on a meadow with a radio station and personal weapons (AK 48 and a BERETA F 22 pistol) and watching the sky over Serbia. We were not allowed to turn on the radars and use any technique because we were weaker against you both militarily and technically. I also know a man who was in charge of the air defense that night and who was responsible for shooting down f 16. That night we knew your every move, the pilot who landed on Serbian soil, as well as the units you sent on a rescue mission. The military did not want to look for your pilot or in any way stop your rescue operation. We even ensured that you entered our territory safely and pulled out your pilot. That was our policy then, so that they would not resent you even more and so that they would not shoot at our civilian targets, because you also knew how to do that. That pilot was searched by ordinary people that night with hunting rifles, and whoever had what, about thirty people from that nearby village were looking for him with civilian vehicles through the night. The army was ordered to intercept civilians and not allow them to interfere in your action in any way. So much from me. I just want to say that it wasn't all as "cool" as the gentleman wants to portray. It is also heard in the voice of the pilot who was brought down that he did not care at all and that he was scared, which is completely normal, understandable and simply human (if it were not otherwise normal) he still fell into the then "enemy territory". I want you to know that by any chance it was ordered that night, I'm sure none of your soldiers would return home alive. Thank GOD, so even then there were people who had enough understanding not to deepen the conflict that you started and to kill each other as soon as possible. Do you know that that year was the most beautiful spring in the last 100 years, know that for many of us that spring did not exist that year. There were many civilian casualties that year and much innocent blood was shed. It was, it passed and it never happened again. Let us never forget the innocent victims who lost their lives that beautiful spring (such as Mila, who was only 3 years old), without being involved in any segment in that insane killing and savagery. I wish you all all the best and may there be peace in the future !!!
Dont ruin their story lol. They like to make fairytales and movies later on based on them. The army command was affraid of the retaliatory attack on the civilian targets (a method that this criminal organization has already done several times before whenever they were hit). Our guys shot down the god damn F-16 and they think the army couldnt destroy several helicopters..our brothers on the other side of Drina though..probably would have strap the pilot to a radar:)
Yep, we also had orders to let them pick up pilots. Once it was very close since they were going straight to our position. I was in 12. brigade arj pvo near Beska. And I dont wish them all the best but all the worst, since I know how cowardly they behaved targeting civilians when they couldnt find us, and I say COWARDS because they didnt fly lower to find us...it is much easier to shot civilian target than to engage in real fight. bitches.
@@bbeelluuttaakk lol, straping pilots or any military man was really shocking when it happened ... i wonder if there are stories of those poor men anywhere on internet? ... i cant remeber now were they members of peacekeeping mission or regular army ?
That's one hell of a reply
Great reply. But western propaganda in making savages of us. Of course we could down any of their helicopters. We shot down F117, and maybe two more F117, but they fell somewhere else and we shot B2. And they think we could not shoot down helicopters. I served in 126. brigade, but haven't been in war because i was born few years earliers, but i have honour to serve with people who were there and who told me what was happening and what our men did to fight against whole Europe and US. Many things they told me was never said anywhere in media because west forbids that. And radars they used back in that days are still operational and still work good and of course we still see every exercise and everything that surrounding NATO countries are doing. 🇷🇸
Do not fuck against serbia ...
They have Russian Raidar Systems .. like the
S-400 ;-)
Pozdrav iz Srbije !
Two gold stars to represent his two brass balls he flys with.
it doesnt take big balls to fight weaker opponent. Actually, its cowards job.
@@charlieharper2529 a pilot by himself and unarmed against an entire battalion in Siberia and you still say their weaker. Wow you must think awful highly of that man. He is a hero but I really don’t think the odds were on his side.
@@badbatch974 in Siberia?
@@badbatch974 he wasnt fighting alone, he had US military and NATO behind him. Serbia has 7 million people and was blocked by its neighbors for 10 years.
@@charlieharper2529 did you watch the video? The whole of the USAF and nato did not crash their planes and have to escape from behind enemy lines. It was one man, by himself. Unless you think that’s an easy task? I really don’t care where your from or what side you you prefer. I still say he’s a hero and if you doubt that your wrong.
article i "believe" mover is referencing....
www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2019/06/19/start-finding-me-boys-inside-the-rescue-of-lt-col-dave-goldfein/
Dude’s All “We Don’t Kill Pilots” Meanwhile He’s Ejecting Into Enemy Territory Literally For Being Shot Down In An Attempt To Indeed “Kill The Pilot” 🧐🥴