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Tiny benefit of rune shard is it does something basically nothing else in the game does - it can reveal the Ultra Secret room if it's within the radius But that's very rarely useful
One thing that I like about cracked key and soul of Cain is that carrying them is basically blue map in a card form because you now know exactly where the secret rooms are due to the walls not giving the viable red room outline
I cant explain how annoyed i am that both soul of the forgotten and soul of jacob and esau are so simular like for jacob and esau makes sence but for the forgotten? Like they could have made it you get the bone club for 7.5 sec or you can leave your body like he does with the soul with ctrl or give him the t forgotten body to throw one time or for one room like its boring that its a copy paste from jacob and esau and on that topic that soul is also kinda boring bc there is an item for that straw man, soul of jacob and esau could be like a one dash of dark esau from your poaition to the furthest part of the room and he cant damage you but does the damage to the enemies
Soul pf Laz is basically a Damocles failsafe if you don't have any other revive items. Also it actually allows suicide king to be useful, if you have polydactyl or smth
How they could buff some of the runes: Hagalaz - Open secret and super secret rooms in the same room. Berkano - Permacharms some enemies in the room, like the enemies from PokeGo (Tarot cloth allows all enemies to be affected) Dagaz - Doubles soul heart gain if it does clear a curse. Also disables Cursed eye teleports for the floor. Rune Shard - Show what the shard is going to do. It could be replaced with shard versions of each rune instead of just a generic shard. Tarot card allows the normal rune effect to happen. Soul of Maggy - Also has Hypercoagulation effect for its duration. Soul of Judas - Damage bonus lasts for the floor. Soul of Lazarus - When reviving from this rune, gain red creep for the floor. While holding this rune, items that grant more pickup slots become more common in shops and treasure rooms (unless you have one already). Soul of Eden - Add the D12 effect to be funny. Soul of the Keeper - Increase the minimum to 3 pennies (unless you're the keepers, in which case the minimum is still 1) Soul of Bethany - Create 3 wisps on each wisp ring. The random properties each wisp is limited to the kind of wisps that spawn in that ring only.
Probably a useful note of soul of J+E; if he rolls into any items that drop stuff on getting them (eg squeezy) he'll instantly drop those pickups. Popping the soul when youve got a lot of items usually results in a ton of free pickups; mainly hearts and trinkets. So even if you dont wanna use it for bosses to avoid getting screwed by him getting dr fetus or something, its pretty damn good for that.
I'd say the only one I disagree is Soul of Laz, there are enough of instances where revive will be useful, especially on certain characters or certain items, so I would've bump it up to 2/5, and it would be fair since all soul stones, runes and rune-adjacent items are useful enough so you are always happy to see at least one of those.
I swore the rune shard got me a crawl space a few times on my 2nd dead god file (I only found out about the existence of them on that file cause it's newer, and I ended up using rune shards a lot because I'm holding off on unlocking the mid runes). I have awful memory so maybe I'm mistaking it for a blank rune I used in the past, but I swore I've used a rune shard on an irregular space (normal methods to find crawl space) and it worked. I'll have to retest it --- On another note, I think putting soul of ??? as a 0 in non combat isn't quite true, because having access to bombs is useful in general I think, def agree it's underrated for sure
I feel like some runes need a note about how good it is as one specific character, if it's significantly better. Cracked Key and Soul of Laz are two items that are so good on (T.) Lost. Cracked Key for getting Inner Child as an Extra Life, and Soul of Laz for more of the same.
the reason i always hesitated using soul of J&E is because 60% of the time it out right crashed the game still to this day have the fear it will crash me but always use it as Esau very VERY often drops consumables
Funny suggestion I have but honestly might be useful for newer players would be an active item tier list for the Greed modes, or honestly Greed mode specific tier lists in general, it’s something most Isaac players don’t like playing but it’s very necessary for crucial unlocks like Holy Mantle or some of the reverse tarot cards!
Random thought: imagine a Challenge run where you're forced to play as Jacob and Esau, and upon entering an un-cleared room, Jacob is forced to use Soul of Jacob and Esau, and normal Esau is forced to use Soul of the Forgotten. Just imagine having to play as one player controlling _four_ characters every room. (also no item rooms, and any damage any of the four take counts against Devil/Angel chance)
Soul of Lilith is always such a cool sight when I find it in runs... and nearly every single time it has disappointed me, Bumbo, Forever Alone, BBF... freakin BOB'S BRAIN AS TAINTED LOST. I have yet to receive a Q4 from that Soul, yet I keep using it.
Black Rune can definitely trigger from Blank Rune. At least through using Clear Rune. Because I had a run with 4 items in the secret room, and I was using Clear Rune over and over with Habit, and then all the items got deleted and I got stats and flies :/
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac It looks like that's the text from the fandom wiki, but without the icons. There's a "not in Repentance" icon in the middle of that sentence on the fandom wiki itself, although since it's an icon it doesn't appear to have transferred over. Blank Rune USED TO not have Black Rune, but this was changed in Repentance.
Personally, I’d weigh combat categories lower then usefulness in non-combat scenarios. Most combats are just temporary buffs, but getting something from a non-combat resource usually stays with you. For example, the sacrifice room from soul of the forgotten might spawn items. Those items will be there for the rest of the runs. The stats from black rune will stay with you forever. The pickups that you got from jera will stay with you until you spend them for something else. However, if you use smth like soul of Azazel or soul of Eve for combat for a fight, they’ll expire. You just got temporary help instead of permanent help
I think Soul of ??? Should get a point for non-combat. The bombs can be useful, sort of like a The Tower card you have more control over. That's usually what I use it for. Get a tinted rock or a secret room and save myself a bomb
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaacu actually misread the wiki it used to not use black rune but in repentance they made it so it can which makes it risky to try to use it as perthro
I'm sorry, but is that fucking Kirby's Epic Yarn music at 17:02????? I was just enjoying the video and then I got hit with raw fucking fire, thank you for this.
One extremely niche thing the rune shard does that has actually came up in my one of my newb runs is show the ultra secret room if you roll Ansuz. I am a newb to Isaac but I don't know if anything else can reveal the ultra secret room.
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Soul of Isaac isn't necessarily better than Perthro or Dice Shard in exactly 2 use cases: As Tainted Isaac or with Glitched Crown/Isaac's birthright, using a standard reroll will reroll all options (so with Tainted Isaac/Isaac's birthright, you get 2 new options, with Glitched Crown, you get 5.) However, with Soul of Isaac, you only get 1 additional item.
You probably were already told this but blank rune definitely uses black rune. I was going for an R key two items in a super secret room use blank rune uses black rune I'll never forget that.
tbh I think ranking soul of lilith over the reroll runes is wrong. I agree it belongs in the top tier but I think getting a reroll is on average better than getting a random familiar. There are just too many familiars like Brother Bobby that are just "meh" for me to rank soul of lilith that Highly. Still, the floor on both types of runes are so high I understand the argument for it being the best rune.
Ehwaz ranking seems to high. The average Crawlspace has a pretty bad item, if you're lucky it has black market which is actually worth something. But the average yera even early in the game has more impact.
You put Soul of Apollyon at a 0 for non combat scenarios, but I gotta disagree. There is a mod that makes the announcer say "Soullyon of Apollyon" upon using it, which makes me giggle every time, so that's at least a 4/5 in a non combat situation.
WHAT. BLANK RUNE NEVER CAN BE BLACK RUNE?!?! there have been like 10 instances in my life where I could have used it and gotten some crazy random item like a sacred heart. Gg edmund
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Why is Berkano out of order?
i loved it when matt said its ranking c̶a̶r̶d̶s runes time and ranked them all over the place
I loved that part too ngl
I love it when commenters repeat the same meme from 3 years ago in every video ever made! It’s so funny!!!!
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@@EvolvedDinosaur that's my favorite part
My lore for Rune Shard existing is that some players only unlocked the good runes like Jera and Pethro so that this play is no longer viable.
i'm pretty sure thats exactly what it was lmao (i was part of the problem)
… I don’t think I like your tone.
Tiny benefit of rune shard is it does something basically nothing else in the game does - it can reveal the Ultra Secret room if it's within the radius
But that's very rarely useful
The best part of black rune is that you can still get stats from voiding actives
so very tru .. unless its shot speed >:(
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaacwhich it always is
me with 5.4 shot speed and 18 luck playing apolyon (i have 4.5 damage)
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaacme when shot speed when I'm desperate for dmg/tears:
FUUUUUUU-
@@Yayo30007 truly the best time to be alive
honorable mention to the one thing soul of laz can do, it helps with tainted lost since its basically an extra life which is a godsend for T. Lost
soul of laz+plan c=how to oneshot delirium
@@valenpfeiffer5199you know you can kill delirium with plan c by using pause right?
@@JUSTaMAFFIN thats cheating
Plan C can't kill Delirium @@valenpfeiffer5199
@@valenpfeiffer5199 delirium telefragging me is also cheating fuck that boss
One thing that I like about cracked key and soul of Cain is that carrying them is basically blue map in a card form because you now know exactly where the secret rooms are due to the walls not giving the viable red room outline
For soul of Samson you put it at 0 for non enemy rooms but I've used the rune specifically for the bone swing on pickups a ton.
I cant explain how annoyed i am that both soul of the forgotten and soul of jacob and esau are so simular like for jacob and esau makes sence but for the forgotten? Like they could have made it you get the bone club for 7.5 sec or you can leave your body like he does with the soul with ctrl or give him the t forgotten body to throw one time or for one room like its boring that its a copy paste from jacob and esau and on that topic that soul is also kinda boring bc there is an item for that straw man, soul of jacob and esau could be like a one dash of dark esau from your poaition to the furthest part of the room and he cant damage you but does the damage to the enemies
Soul pf Laz is basically a Damocles failsafe if you don't have any other revive items. Also it actually allows suicide king to be useful, if you have polydactyl or smth
How they could buff some of the runes:
Hagalaz - Open secret and super secret rooms in the same room.
Berkano - Permacharms some enemies in the room, like the enemies from PokeGo (Tarot cloth allows all enemies to be affected)
Dagaz - Doubles soul heart gain if it does clear a curse. Also disables Cursed eye teleports for the floor.
Rune Shard - Show what the shard is going to do. It could be replaced with shard versions of each rune instead of just a generic shard. Tarot card allows the normal rune effect to happen.
Soul of Maggy - Also has Hypercoagulation effect for its duration.
Soul of Judas - Damage bonus lasts for the floor.
Soul of Lazarus - When reviving from this rune, gain red creep for the floor. While holding this rune, items that grant more pickup slots become more common in shops and treasure rooms (unless you have one already).
Soul of Eden - Add the D12 effect to be funny.
Soul of the Keeper - Increase the minimum to 3 pennies (unless you're the keepers, in which case the minimum is still 1)
Soul of Bethany - Create 3 wisps on each wisp ring. The random properties each wisp is limited to the kind of wisps that spawn in that ring only.
Probably a useful note of soul of J+E; if he rolls into any items that drop stuff on getting them (eg squeezy) he'll instantly drop those pickups. Popping the soul when youve got a lot of items usually results in a ton of free pickups; mainly hearts and trinkets. So even if you dont wanna use it for bosses to avoid getting screwed by him getting dr fetus or something, its pretty damn good for that.
I'd say the only one I disagree is Soul of Laz, there are enough of instances where revive will be useful, especially on certain characters or certain items, so I would've bump it up to 2/5, and it would be fair since all soul stones, runes and rune-adjacent items are useful enough so you are always happy to see at least one of those.
I swore the rune shard got me a crawl space a few times on my 2nd dead god file (I only found out about the existence of them on that file cause it's newer, and I ended up using rune shards a lot because I'm holding off on unlocking the mid runes). I have awful memory so maybe I'm mistaking it for a blank rune I used in the past, but I swore I've used a rune shard on an irregular space (normal methods to find crawl space) and it worked. I'll have to retest it
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On another note, I think putting soul of ??? as a 0 in non combat isn't quite true, because having access to bombs is useful in general I think, def agree it's underrated for sure
technically… you can open secret rooms and break tinted rocks with soul of blue baby so it shouldn’t be a 0 for non-combat
heck you're right i forgor
pretty much exclusively what i use it for, its basically a delayed explosive diarrhea pill, great when you dont have bombs
Something that Ansuz does that the world and sun dont do is reveal the super secret room.
And ultra secret!!
I feel like some runes need a note about how good it is as one specific character, if it's significantly better. Cracked Key and Soul of Laz are two items that are so good on (T.) Lost. Cracked Key for getting Inner Child as an Extra Life, and Soul of Laz for more of the same.
the reason i always hesitated using soul of J&E is because 60% of the time it out right crashed the game
still to this day have the fear it will crash me but always use it as Esau very VERY often drops consumables
Rune shard can spawn crawlspace trapdoors, you just gotta stand on a floor decoration like ethwaz or we need to go deeper
Funny suggestion I have but honestly might be useful for newer players would be an active item tier list for the Greed modes, or honestly Greed mode specific tier lists in general, it’s something most Isaac players don’t like playing but it’s very necessary for crucial unlocks like Holy Mantle or some of the reverse tarot cards!
Mmm sprinkler
amazing video, but also why is berkano so out of place?
My bad I put it way too low, it's top 3 at least tbh
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaacno like berkano’s placement in the video jumps ahead past most of the runes and then goes back 😂
Random thought: imagine a Challenge run where you're forced to play as Jacob and Esau, and upon entering an un-cleared room, Jacob is forced to use Soul of Jacob and Esau, and normal Esau is forced to use Soul of the Forgotten.
Just imagine having to play as one player controlling _four_ characters every room. (also no item rooms, and any damage any of the four take counts against Devil/Angel chance)
Soul of Lilith is always such a cool sight when I find it in runs... and nearly every single time it has disappointed me, Bumbo, Forever Alone, BBF... freakin BOB'S BRAIN AS TAINTED LOST.
I have yet to receive a Q4 from that Soul, yet I keep using it.
Forever alone is a good familiar?
@@ladygeneveve3805 Since wheeen?
Black Rune can definitely trigger from Blank Rune. At least through using Clear Rune. Because I had a run with 4 items in the secret room, and I was using Clear Rune over and over with Habit, and then all the items got deleted and I got stats and flies :/
yeaaa i think my source of info may be incorrect on that lol
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac It looks like that's the text from the fandom wiki, but without the icons. There's a "not in Repentance" icon in the middle of that sentence on the fandom wiki itself, although since it's an icon it doesn't appear to have transferred over.
Blank Rune USED TO not have Black Rune, but this was changed in Repentance.
@@misirtere9836 yeah, and that's important lol
Personally, I’d weigh combat categories lower then usefulness in non-combat scenarios.
Most combats are just temporary buffs, but getting something from a non-combat resource usually stays with you.
For example, the sacrifice room from soul of the forgotten might spawn items. Those items will be there for the rest of the runs.
The stats from black rune will stay with you forever. The pickups that you got from jera will stay with you until you spend them for something else.
However, if you use smth like soul of Azazel or soul of Eve for combat for a fight, they’ll expire. You just got temporary help instead of permanent help
I think Soul of ??? Should get a point for non-combat. The bombs can be useful, sort of like a The Tower card you have more control over. That's usually what I use it for. Get a tinted rock or a secret room and save myself a bomb
What do you mean it excludes black rune? when i use blank rune it sometimes procs black rune too.
the wiki do be saying the wildest things sometimes
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaacu actually misread the wiki it used to not use black rune but in repentance they made it so it can which makes it risky to try to use it as perthro
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac the wiki does specify that's not a thing in repentance :)
I'm sorry, but is that fucking Kirby's Epic Yarn music at 17:02????? I was just enjoying the video and then I got hit with raw fucking fire, thank you for this.
Soul of Magdalene is great for Tainted Bethany, since it means more stored charges for items.
Also, Soul of Lazarus can be used with Plan C to kill Delirium. Suicide King can also be used with it if you have polydactyly
One extremely niche thing the rune shard does that has actually came up in my one of my newb runs is show the ultra secret room if you roll Ansuz.
I am a newb to Isaac but I don't know if anything else can reveal the ultra secret room.
cracked orb reveals ulltra secret
23:50 ever heard of Tainted Lost?
Ranking enemies could be a cool idea. Ive Been thinking that since it showed up in the poll.
i agree! That would be very cool! There are a looooot of enemies but i like a challenge :)
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaacyou could split it into a part series, maybe by floor perhaps.
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I got PSYFLY from a soul of lillith yesterday. Best soul rune ever
Rune shard CAN actually spawn crawspaces, its why i actually use it
Jera when…
Blank card
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Restock (not machine, item)
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Shops
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coin and battery on ground
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Free win
The soul of Lazarus placement is actually crazy.
Getting Ehwaz on the rune shard can still make a crawlspace when you're above a floor decoration.
Love the intro and the *rune* replacements
Love to see Soul of Lazarus when you have Damocles
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mostly good but I believe most of the normal room clear soul stones must be dropped a tier (forgotten apollyon samson especially)
yeaaa you're probably not wrong lul
Soul of Isaac isn't necessarily better than Perthro or Dice Shard in exactly 2 use cases:
As Tainted Isaac or with Glitched Crown/Isaac's birthright, using a standard reroll will reroll all options (so with Tainted Isaac/Isaac's birthright, you get 2 new options, with Glitched Crown, you get 5.) However, with Soul of Isaac, you only get 1 additional item.
What character rune you unlock first? Mine was soul of Apollyon, also the Apollyons are the my first and second all marks.
I'd say soul of ??? would be at least a 1 in non combat because you could use it destroy rocks, pots, open secret rooms, destroy dono, etc
soul of laz in bottom tier is blasphemy my brother
blank rune can become black rune, learned this the hard way when i balled too hard and turned my 4 perthros and 2 soul of isaacs into flies
one step closer to the item ranking. Surely thats gonna come right ?
eventually i promise :)
How’d you know this is exactly what I wanted to watch at this very moment which is an hour after upload
so, just so you know, rune shards can spawn crawlspaces, I did it several times, just so you know.
Soul of laz can be used for damocles or devil deals i think it should be at 4th tier
You probably were already told this but blank rune definitely uses black rune. I was going for an R key two items in a super secret room use blank rune uses black rune I'll never forget that.
For the soul of Lazarus it completely negates Damocles downside
That's not how you use those tier colors.
Btw, berserk melee atack bounces enemy bullets away
Good ranking, now how would you rank soul stones based off taste?
Souls of Isaac and Eden look like they'd be the best
@thinkublu I want to try Soul of Bethany, looks like a gummy with liquid candy in it
Soul of laz is great for the losts, especially tainted lost, because he pretty much can't have more lives
soul of laz only gets picked up as the lost/t lost or if i have Damocles
That soul heart from dagaz is worth a lot more in repentance. Plus dont get hit.
Soul of Laz can save your ass from Damocles. Good stuff
yo whats the music in the background i like it
tbh I think ranking soul of lilith over the reroll runes is wrong. I agree it belongs in the top tier but I think getting a reroll is on average better than getting a random familiar. There are just too many familiars like Brother Bobby that are just "meh" for me to rank soul of lilith that Highly. Still, the floor on both types of runes are so high I understand the argument for it being the best rune.
Lovin the Kirby's Epic Yarn music :)
you can get crawl spaces with ruin shard
Blank rune CAN do black rune and rune shard CAN creat crawlspaces
classic matt video where matt matts mattingly
Ehwaz ranking seems to high.
The average Crawlspace has a pretty bad item, if you're lucky it has black market which is actually worth something.
But the average yera even early in the game has more impact.
You sure rune shard can't spawn a crawlspace? I remember spawning crawlspaces with rune shards
Rune shard can spawn crawl spaces, done it for me many timw
rune shard is for if you have less than like 3 runes unlocked
Samson should be higher because the sword deflects bullets
cracked key 5 cuz most ppl prob use it to unlock tainted characters :3
Okay, hear me out, hagalaz rune is amazing if you can obtain a cards against humanity card
I think Berkano was somehow placed early in the vid, but otherwise nice vid
oh shit idk what i did lmao oops
these ranking videos are so good
Not even MENTIONING the freakin’ LOST, and especially T.LOST, when talking about Soul of Laz??? Wut????
rune shard can make crawlspaces actually
can you do a music tierlist
Como que Aegis no es top tier????
Why is no one talking about berkano being out of order
Every time I use blank rune it keeps using black run 😢 (I’m pretty sure he is wrong that it doesn’t use black rune, it always does it for me)
You put Soul of Apollyon at a 0 for non combat scenarios, but I gotta disagree.
There is a mod that makes the announcer say "Soullyon of Apollyon" upon using it, which makes me giggle every time, so that's at least a 4/5 in a non combat situation.
You should rank the characters
they gotta make Hagalaz destroy them stone enemies
Blank rune does copy black rune effect
no webcam Matt? :sadplum:
WHAT. BLANK RUNE NEVER CAN BE BLACK RUNE?!?!
there have been like 10 instances in my life where I could have used it and gotten some crazy random item like a sacred heart. Gg edmund
Blank rune can become a black rune in repentance, Matt misread wiki little bit.
@@avezebra7022 oh lol ok ok
Me when I be Clearning a room
me when you're clearing a room
Soul of ??? Should have one non combat usefulness, it spawns bombs dawg
Can u rank tha flin stones
Me waiting for him to rank every item in the game
it'll haaaaaappen .. you just gotta sub to know when
but soul of laz + tlost or lost even
I swear blank rune includes black rune
Soul of samson max 3/5 the mele atack its just bad xp never used it cuz its not worthed
R U N E S
*PS. And soul stones
6:19 al- WHAT
Aljiz
you put the best rune in the game - algiz in 4???
ye :) im controversial like that
I like soul of blue baby
Cool video, jera is a 5 though.
How in the hell is ehwaz better than jera
crawlspaces are free items (most of the time) and jera is only really super pog when taken to the chest or dark room
Free crawspace
Why not use jera on ehwaz so you can spawn 2 crawlspaces?@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac