[Dev] Hellfire, Maverick Damage Buff
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
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As it should be
now playing against apache will be impossible
@@qvad8078ahaha, apaches can’t do nothing against aircraft
@@qvad8078 Wow stop complaining. yall got the pantsir S1 and 2S38 which got a massive buff. One time that USA gets a buff you all russia mains start wanting a buff too.
@@qvad8078 The Apache is the worst top tier helicopter. If you can't handle an Apache, I have bad news for you - you have dementia.
@@Virgan1209Cap
Finally. It was always so bizzare that the one of the best anti tank Air launched Missile, couldnt one tap tanks. Mavericks are absolutely massive, so seeing one being stopped by a Kontakt 1 was such a meme
Actually the Maverick was fine until Gaijin decided that air launched missiles shouldn't overpressure for some reason, which meant that the 51 kg warhead of the AGM-65 meant nothing when it produced no fragmentation or overpressure, just a HEAT jet.
@@PineCone227_ it was always hilarious that a 51kg HEAT jet somehow doesnt absolutely shatter the armour or overpressure the crew. but a 50-25kg bomb dropped from biplanes would send the tanks turret to space.
@@sniperh2o325 Yea, I just recently got the F-16C and the amount of times I have hit a FlaRakRad or Pantsir with these missiles just for them to do absolutely nothing is wild
Yesterday 3 direct hits with HF114 to a pantsir, no damage, next match, 2 direct hits and nothing, only a mirror.
Did they truly increased the damage?
@@AndreuBCN this is on the dev server. if this happened on live server than no, not yet
You guys are so silly… This buff just means that the next update will introduce a Russian AA even better than the Pantsir.
There are plenty of possible SPAA for russian tech tree ;)
Buk, Osa, C-300 (the one modification with a radar and missiles on one unit), Cube, Luchnik, Sosna and also something that i, maybe, forgot.
Idk which one can be "better than pantsir" and in what variable. Buk, Cube and C-300 has far greater range of work but they also can't work against targets that are in 1, 2 or 3 km. Luchnik and Osa are strela alternatives with different rockets, Sosna is a short-range overpowered strela that can work both against air and land.
Wont realy matter for helis they are always in range for any SPAA, if the heli pilot is good enough no SPAA will reach it
But i'm waiting for Tor-M2 for russia.
@@n1coR just not true, a stormer hvm can easily kill a heli in spawn
there quite literally isnt a better SPAA than the pantsir. Nato simply doesnt have any equivalent SPAA as they rely more on immobile SAM sites with better AA capabilities but would be impossible to add to War Thunder
War Thunder Players: it’s still not accurate enough here’s some classified documents on the Hellfire missile to prove that I’m right.
HAHHAHA
That's despite whole game is not realistic
I am really curious, have you even played with Mavericks and Hellfires? You wouldn't be saying this if you actually did. They were horrible to use, only getting Hit marks and not killing anything.
A welcome (and historically accurate) buff for the Hellfires. Not being able to kill Russian MBTs with a Hellfire straight to the side, all while destroying the entire ammorack was incredibly frustrating.
As for the Mavericks, they were on a whole different level of ridiculous ...
ERA still eats tandem charges tho
TBH all heli AGMS suck postpen-wise. IN fact, I find hellfires having the best post pen for quite while now. Vikhrs are even more garbage after all the nerfs and if you play top tier you notice ka-52 are rare nowadays. At least with hellfire, you can fire multiple at once.
First hellfires where shit, change in project lead made them powerful.
@@wilberforce6991the entire point of tandem charges was to overcome ERA...
Ok, now they just have to do the same for ATGMs on tanks and HEATFS rounds.
but first, it's time to fix the "totally a bug" of ATGMs launching then dropping as if they had to launch at a 45' angle to be able to go far enough to not burn the launcher with its booster engine.
Again.
that will take another 5 years...
good proposal, the reason to up BR Cold War HEAT exchange for more damage
not fun to play as and play against currently
These are like 50 KG shaped charges bro, your ATGM should not perform the same way
@@Jacksonflax the hellfire has a warhead of about 9kg, it's 3 times more than, for example, a konkur.
As you know, blast radious is not linear, so Helfire should do about 1.5 times the damage of a konkur.
It does not.
You mean the anti-tank missiles designed and operated specifically for this purpose can actually do their job now? Honestly quite incredible.
Can you see any *target destoyed* from here? What has *target destoyed* given us?
We're going to start over from scratch. That's what AGM V2 is for.
Btw, so far Vikhrs created more spalling despite having far smaller warhead. That's how it was for years. Make of that what you will.
Cap
Pretty sure they didn’t unless you got proof of this
Nah he's right vikhrs slay. @@theallmightyego6756
For what it's worth, I played a game a couple weeks ago where a teammate (Z-11W) and I (Ka-50) fired no less than 10 ATGMs between us (I checked in replay) into a Strv-122b and couldn't manage to kill him before the game ended.
I rarely ever get one hit kills with Vikhrs on MBTs. On light vehicles, however, it will reliably one hit kill.
Skill issue@@tomfahey2823
Looks like a beefy nato buff for once.
"for once"
lmao
@@Andrey_Gysevyeah for once.
Russia constantly gets buffs left and right, new OP premium vehicles for the past two and a half years.
Finally US mains get the proper reload time for Abrams and Mavericks and Hellfires are actually dangerous and you Russia mains are loosing your minds xD.
@@kentoncompton3009honestly I wanted for the Abrams was for them to fix the dam turret ring its raised up higher than it is in real life and is missing a good chunk of armored that would protect it from auto cannons
@kentoncompton3009 >buff left and right
Just like it was at moment when phantom or abrams was introduced and killed everything? Just like when mig-29 got nerfed fm, and then shitbox smt came in along superoverpowered f-16c? It's like when f-15c gets 8 long range ARHM and su-27sm gets slightly less shitty fm than su-27? Or when a-10 plays GRB with guided missiles at 10.0 and su-25 only can use it's armament at 2-3 times shorter distance?
@@raketny_hvost F-16C, gripens, mirages etc with high quality targeting pods with thermals that are extremely hard to counter from ground: *cricket noise*
USSR tree getting the first ever aircraft with thermals (still Su-25 FM): ohnooooo russian bias again op vehicles buff america!!!!!!!111
And thats aside from the fact that USSR tree gets 1.5 competitive top tier MBTs while, say, Japan gets 2 and Sweden gets 3. yet somehow its always russian bias for the average folk.
Now they need to make top down attack missiles a top down attack to make them work properly
-Pars and Spikes "what about me?"
I honestly don't think that the Ki-148 I-Go needs a spalling buff, lmfaoo
We take it tho
keep seeing "buff" "nerf"
When it comes to that change: it's less about buff/nerf and more about getting shit right, finally ATGM will act as anti-TANK guided missiles.
now... where's my fix for ground ATGM Gaijin ?? 🗿
Because ground is not suffering enough
I remember in top tier SB battles. I had a face off (literally) with a T90M and since my ammo was destroyed (i was with the M1A1) my last round destroyed his cannon breach and the commander.
However i tracked him with my 12.7's and the guy tanked 3 hellfire missiles on its side turret.
Good to see they're finally fixing them.
Especially for AJ37 and AJS37 that for some reason were forgotten and didn't get their br lowered.
I only hope that they will fix 9M120 Ataka as well.
Had an extremely bizarre battle with Sweden mi-28, and still can't understand was it a bug or not.
Bt-7 and BTR-152 Took 3 ATGMs frontally and survived with ease. Shilka 2, Leopard 2, all survived.
Only t-72 was Oneshot cause autoloader, you know.
In the next battle something similar, but i also hit Ka-50 twice.
ZERO Damage, didn't even get assist.
I haven't played it for some time but I've never seen such a bad damage with any other guided munition, hell even mavericks and Hellfires damaged consistently.
Hell, Ataka's were Annihilating helis, rightfully so, and now....Gayjin, what the hell?
Вроде как, пару месяцев назад, у кумулятивных снарядов и ракет отключили урон давлением.
Раньше Т-55АМ (донатный) с помощью своих ПТУРов мог спокойно избыточным давлением уничтожать 2A4 и M1A1 стреляя им буквально под башню.
Недавно данную механику "отключили" и все виды ракет перестали наносить урон давлением. Чесно говоря, такого лютого кринжа, когда Тайп 90 выдерживает 4 атаки в крышу, а после еще 2-3 пуска с 64D от моего соседа - такого еще не встречал.
You need to hit the turret's cheeks ERA with the DEV ATGMS. In the DEV comparison, you're only hitting the UFP.
doesnt matter it still kills both turret crew and OHKs
meanwhile PARS3LR on germany top helicopter have not been mentioned at all
guess it(and the launch platform) will be suck still for a long time
they finally remembered that top tier russian tanks aren't immune to AT missiles
The Hellfire redemption arc is almost complete
Diapason as background ost, man it's going to be a nice video
2:51 Attack the D point
On one hand i feel that the missile should be more realistic but on the other hand CAS really doesn't need to be stronger
i just want a buff for my L-Umtas missile and the Umtas Missile (IR) on the T129 ATAK
Thats good, now Spikes should also see a little buff coz these MFs do fuck all damage
Damage is one thing. They should consider hitting the tank first lol
spikes are only 150ish mm wide, they did not see the buff, only the 5 missiles listed in the video got buffed
And PARS-3s
@@Serkay64 yeh atleast a bit of a buff wuld be nice .. stoped using the UHT cuz hitting a tank with 6-8 pars just to get a kill is just not worth it such a waste of spawn points even light tanks keep surving 3+ pars some times :(
@@molstad182 yeye i meant that they should do something for PARS and SPIKES as well. It takes more than 4 of these missiles to kill a Pantsir or an ITO. (Considering they probably shot at least another 4 missile you wasted all 8missiles for 1 spaa.)
They removed the capability to over pressure kill stuff.
awesome, back to helis being completely and utterly op
In reality: a missile hits a three-story building and completely levels it.
In the game: a rocket hits a tank and makes a water drop sound.
It was necessary to increase the damage to missiles long ago, instead of indifferently watching the suffering of players for many years.
it doesnt thou, the only possible single ordance able to that much damage is a earthquake bomb
How tf cas mains suffer?
@@datcheesecakeboi6745 There are many videos of Hellfire in the Middle East on the positions of terrorists, there the explosion from the missile is really big, that in a certain situation can collapse a three-storey building, of course this does not happen often, but the explosion is impressive, and we have in the game is not a missile, but a New Year's firecracker.
@@datcheesecakeboi6745you severely underestimate the power of explosives
So they finally will explain the horrendous spawn cost now they could also remove spawncost from regular belts on some aircraft
They should give more spalls and overpressure to other HE shells and ATGM's , bombs and Cumulative ammunitions , bcs sometimes you just getting laughs about damage
Now they just need to fix the flight path of top attack ATGMs so they don't fall onto the ground in front of the target.
Ah so i see, CAS was not powerful enough? You would think that they would at some point stop buffing the thing that can kill tanks with impunity, unless someone wants to degrade they own match quality by jumping in an AA and maybe being able to fight the CAS.
The Ki-148 getting a buff alongside the Hellfire.. why?
I'm not complaining, but it's just so random lol
Snail decided to go with missile diameter/caliber, with threshold being 170mm or so?
Had to use 2 hellfires against an ozelot the other day.
Finally, now I can properly use my newly unlocked AHS 😊😊
Would like to see a little buff to the pars 3 too tbh
Holy shit the first time ever that gaijin actually updates something and the update is good.
Let's hope it's not the same situation as with Abrams SEPv2 when its side armor got buffed on dev but on the release it stayed the same.
I am sure that Gaijin is so glad that you approve
Holy shit a buff for the funny 2.3 missile
We just need a ground only mode
Can the tiger uht have the same spall like the hell fire ? the spike is just a joke you have 8 of them and need to hope that even 2 or 3 hits and even if they hit you still need to hope they damage it or with a big chunck of luck you destroy the target .
Now if only they can make the TOW2B do more than simply soak its entire round into a MG
TOW-2B is already completely braindead to use and infuriating to fight, why on earth should it be made even better? I genuinely felt bad for my enemies when used them and i hate facing them.
If anything they should be nerfed so that absolutely no one uses them, they were a mistake to add in the first place. Nobody should be able to completely negate cover like that
Missiles on the dev server also seem to track better
5KD isnt enough on helis thanks for the buff xD
I hit a Type 93 with a 65a and only got a critical hit. Apparently hitting a humvee with a giant AGM doesn’t delete it lmao
매버릭 나온지가 몇년인데 ㅋㅋㅋ 드디어 매버릭 최종 방어병기 대공기총 무력화 가능한가
It only took them 999999999 years to fix.
How kind of them, the developers of this non-biased game.
Maybe we will one day be able to miss with a NATO AGM and deal splash damage, like a certain non-NATO country can.
0:43 classic hitting ammo, charges even, blacking them out and no explosion. (Only on Russian tanks)
Back to the buff. Nah something isn’t right, Gaijin has never ever made a NATO round/ATGM/etc spall this hard I’m in complete disbelief that they’re modeling autoloaders to be damaged, finally putting an 11.3 premium for Russia nerfing their top tier teams, and seemingly buffing only NATO ATGMs. This is unheard of and I’m scared of what they could possibly be planning to add to Russia to make them OP again in the future
Ive survived a direct hit on my somua turret by an atgm, felt bad for living.
아아,,,, 모두가 상처받는 세계의 완성이다..
OK waiting for the same for Ground to Air ammunition against aircraft. Like, If they can one shot me from 5kms, I need to be able to do the same without my rocket exploding next to it and scratching a decal
Finally they're fixing the Hellfires and Mavericks! I was always a surprise to get a kill with those on first hit, with Littlebird I would usually get 1 kill with 4 Hellfire launches, that is if am lucky and they track properly.
they arent fixing them they are buffing them, the hellfires ingame just suck irl
What about spikes and the uht ones?
they still didn't fix the lock wobbling
does this change affect the agm on the swiss hunter?
Now they just need to adjust hellfires so that they actually hit the roof of tanks and not the front plate.
곧 올라올 공지: 매버릭의 파편 및 폭압이 과도하게 좋은 버그를 고쳤습니다!
other ATGMs need buff as well.
I remember directly hitting a Wiesel 1A2 with a hellfire and only killing the driver…
Deeper spalling. Giggity.
I just dont understand why US apaches dont get the other varients of hellfires, like the agm 114L and 114R which the L varient being the whole reason why the ah 64D exists
it is kinda mind boggling that T-55AM in Air Realistic Battle can tank my AGM-65D from A-10
Wait, did they buff the L-UMTAS for the T129 as well then?
If only spikes got this buff instead of getting a hit notification or just tickling the breach😅
Damn i liked tanking them with moderna but i think its good they are buffed
Imagine they fixed the clunky and buggy Pantsir radar with this as well
@zenturion7 What about PARS?
wish they buffed the AKD-9 as well, the thing is so painful to use against SPAAs
finally!, even in sim battles i would hit a dinky ass M113 with a 65D and i would be lucky if it gets the tracks, mavericks are gigantic missiles they are suppost to annihilate anything they hit
2 hellfires in imp Chaparral crew and -2 only loooool
Ps btw will they do something with aa missiles? Hits on helis are annoying
AGM maverick lover was here *
Still not enough overpressure penetration - Maverics wont overpressure most paper spaa'a with less than 20mm armour while having 15+kg of explosive. Like hellfire with 8kg of explosive can not overpressure crew less than 2 meters away in literall tin can of a pantsir.
Can you test spike missiles as well? Those pinprickers suck balls.
PARS는 뭐 없나..? 스파이크들도 데미지 엄청 약하던데..
Heli PVE is very weird rn my PARS 3 can rarely oneshot even a stupid 106mm AT Gun with just 2 crew????
the stupid "fix"
once 9M17 (I'm one for heli) can overpressure ZSU-23-4
for a week now I have had to aim for ammo specifically
Wait, what about the AKD-9s
Cas is now going to be even more unbearable
Now we need patriot and s300
Need a buff for pars too😢
Does this also apply to the rb 75 ?
Finally
When for pars 3lr
Hope they fix the Spikes
If only they could somehow fix ground vehicle spike, so that 6 missiles don’t fail to kill an individual haha
Pars 3lr and Spikes ???
as if CAS wasnt strong enough already, greaaaaaaaaat
Top tier CAS was mainly op because of guided bombs, now there is just going to be more diversity of planes you see, with the same potential to kill you
should also change the l-umptas damage
Current ly hellfire in live servers seems to be dud. it's kill with kinetic like losat, and that kinda suck when it acts like a guided bomb instead of a proper missile
I mean, it's barely hit a static target at 6km, overpressure not working, IoG guidances not working ,and the flight time is like 40 seconds while the pantsir can turn you into fireball in 6-8 sec🎉
Also, you don't hit moving target
wowers
We are doomed.
So Mav and hellfire from start bugged 😂, gj gaijin
WHAT ABOUT THE L-UMTAS?!
It's 160mm, so it's not included. Rather unfortunate...
PARS 3 LR BUFF WHEN?
They should add this to PARS 3LR that thing is inconsistent with the damage rn
수십키로짜리 폭약이 터지는데 heat이어도 너무 비정상적이었지...
what about PARS?
wait what about pars
지금 현재 지대공미사일들 경장갑차량 공격할 때 보니깐 무슨 레이저 마냥 뚫고지나가면서 파편 안만들던데;;;
장갑으로 다 씹는 무적전차 이제 하나 패치해주네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 어휴