I have done 2000 trouble free miles in mine in the last 3 weeks. 6 hrs in it today no problems, no squeeks, no rattles, no problems. The only problem is parties expecting a BMW X5 in the way it drives, it is a 4x4 not a car on stilts. This is a vehicle that feels like it can drive through and over as opposed to around. It will sit at 80 mph all day. If you have tools you can actually take it apart in 5 minutes, unlike so many of the competitors. Something that I will be keeping for a looong time.
Thanks Joe. I had but released a reservation on one of these. I did the Arizona test drive (about five minutes in low range up and down a modest trail) and the cool factor on these is through the roof. But there were too many unknowns for me to go through with it: 1. I didn't love it enough to sell my 17 LC200 for; 2. No dealer in PHX, nearest in So Cal, 300 miles away; 3. New manufacture reliability risk; 4. No limit on potential dealer pricing markups; 5. Highway mileage 14mpg; 6. Other than cool factor, not as good of overall off-roader as a Wrangler or Bronco because of dealers, support, history, etc.; 7. It was good, but not great in the test drive, the Ineos staff seemed as dodgy as other manufacturers'. One thing on the test drive event, they left the Grenadiers running for the 30-60 minutes between the 5 minute test drives. For cooling? For batteries? Whatever it was, it didn't feel right.
The test drive vehicles were prototypes. Engines remained on all day because each had to be manually programmed/managed properly at startup and shutdown.
"Fieldstream"...."Grenaidier"....how about getting the names right. Bit hard to take your review seriously when you can't even get the names and model correct.
These have got to have a better reliability rating than a Land Rover.. those have such a poor track record. I'm pretty sure most BMW dealerships are going to be able to service these. Can't be that difficult.
Been following INEOS for a few years now. Glad to see they got this BEAST up and running for release here in the States. Nice to have an alternative European SUV thats not over 100k👍
Super cool but you gotta pay to play up here in the GR8 White North fully loaded is $117 800.80 as always Thanks Lori for making Joe look like a class act.
I've been enjoying the Ineos videos on Harry's garage. It looks legit, including how the back doors open old school (like an Isuzu Trooper). And great to see that buttons are coming back. Btw, the off road screen shows Attitude, not Altitude. Great to see Ineos has made its way over here. Big kudos for getting this on your channel.
Can’t wait to get mine. Put the reservation very early. Some folks have pulled back their reservations because of what they call unknowns. But when I saw the preproduction units built like a damn tank and felt that familiar steering of a true solid axle front end, it was EXACTLY what I was looking for. No need to go crazy with aftermarket gear to make the loaded up from the factory Trialmaster (definitely with the safari roof windows) provide some serious capability off-road. The other issue that perplexes me are the negative comments about that BMW 58 engine. It’s tuned for torque and not blown out for horsepower. That engine has some of the best core mechanical reliability ratings of any six out there. This thing is gonna last a good long time, no doubt. 👍🏻😎👍🏻
Everything was an unknown since this is a brand new manufacturer. People who cancelled reservations because of unknowns were probably never going to buy one anyways.
@@Fedgery007, I tend to agree with you. They were probably just waiting for some justification in the reviews to turn them away from spending the money. But there is no doubt the additional cost overruns made the choice for some. Just wasn’t out of the realm of reality for me so I’m still rubbing my hands in anticipation of getting my grubby mits on that thing and beating the pants off of it. Well, in a matter of speaking, lol. 😎😎😎
Dealerships coming to multiple locations in North America so you all gotta drive this thing before talking about it. I had chance to drive this both on & off road in two different countries and ride was surprisingly good. Extremely well built making no squeaking noise anywhere from the vehicle when off roading even the vehicle had high mileage on it after being used as test vehicle. (This vehicle was built in Mercedes factory). Think about Tesla making noise on highway driving 😂😂 Reliable B57 & B58 engine was a good choice!!
Never thought I'd say this, because I love technology in vehicles. The more futuristic the interior looks the better I like it. But, I absolutely love the interior of this Ineos. They did a fantastic job making it look fun to be in and operate all of the buttons and switches. It just looks like it can take a beating and keep on ticking. I would easily pick this over any Land Rover or Mercedes.
I've been on their website and built one up. They can get real expensive. Wish the diesel was available like in Europe though. Waiting for your ride and drive video now.
Hm, I own an Ineos Grenadier Fieldmaster (22/23 initial / original series ) in Germany since about 3 weeks. 763kms on Odometer. Grenadier is by far an OffRoader and less a SUV. Or- if an SUV what they where in the beginning. - An Offroader with some comfort and a bit of paved road capability. It is a lot of fun driving it - even with recirculating ball steering, No mirrors in Sunshades, no lights for the lady to review the make up, no coathooks. No lane assist, no electronic reminder and instructor telling me do this do that. Driving it is entirely MY responsibility. There are a lot of journalists looking at it from a road car and offroad mimic SUV perspective. - If you purchase a Grenadier be aware - this is a true dino saur. A loing distance overlanding offroader, meant to go well on unpaved corrugated tracks but not a rock cat like a Wrangler but paved road capable. Fun with every mile. But know exactly if you want this..
Ineos Grenadier is NOT shitty SUV, it's OFF-ROAD car and with this in mind it was developed! Most of SUVs doesn't have locked differentials, reduction gears etc. SUV is a vehicle to make groceries and travel with family of four.
I was given an opportunity to test drive one of these a couple of weeks back in Pasadena California and loved it! It’s a fantastic driving experience and perfectly designed for the vehicles intended use.
Hey Joe. It it one more SUV that costs too much money and does not give potential buyers enough luxury of the items that parking lot queens use! I will stay with the 2024 Jeep Wrangler Mohave. Keep up the excellent reviews. Thanks to Lori for the fantastic camera work. Not an easy feat to do.
This is the story I received from a friend in Romania: They are looking like Land Rover Defender but they are not cheap at all. A very rich English guy (a bear maker or something) was so sad when the old Defender version has been retreated as he went to Land Rover and asked them to sell the old Defender's production line in order to let him to continue to make Defender. They refused his offer and he was so determined to make a Defender looking car as he made his own 4x4 company. What you see has a BMW 3.0 diesel engine, an automatic gear box made by ZF, a Magna Steyr (one of the most famous European parts and car maker - Mercedes G Klass is made by them) 4x4 system. The price is much bigger than the old Defender's price used to be.
This vehicle needs a driver side gauge cluster. I'd hate having to constantly look side ways to the central infotainment cluster to check my speed and every thing else. This vehicle should also give you the option to disengage four wheel drive when not needed, to decrease wear and tear on drivetrain as oppose to full time 4 wheel drive that it is equipped with.
@@Fedgery007 So in your opinion, Jeep Wrangler and the Toyota 4Runners are grocery getters because the have the capability to have their 4x4 system turned off? Give your head a shake. The grocery getters are, in fact, the ones that have permanent all wheel drive on not real 4x4s.. Ignorance is bliss eh Fedgery007?
Beaten to death the last couple of years - current owners will tell you it is a non-event. Like driving a Mini or flying an aircraft - takes 5 min to get used to it.
They have been testing this for years in deserts and the Outback and it is very reliable as far as the testing show,it is built very tough solid axles and solid suspension , I want one
Looks like a combination of several vehicles. I really dig it. For the price I'd take this over a lot of other brands. Thanks for the review and info 👍🏼
I saw Lori's reflection while you were showing the rear exterior and it occurred to me the hard work and skill that is involved. Great job, Lori! (I hope that's the correct spelling of her name.)
I wish car manufacturers would stop using gloss black interior trim. I have an AMG E53 Cabriolet, first car I've owned with gloss black trim, and I don't like the gloss black. It scratches sooo easily!
It is a really cool vehicle, i went to a drive event in California. I liked that they had one tilted up on a ramp so we could see underneath it at the drive event, it really has some beefy stuff underneath it seems like they used some high quality/spec components BUT some of the overseas reviews from people, it seems like it needs some fine tuning between features flat out not working, interior bits coming apart, warning lights mysteriously coming on with no codes, parking sensors beeping all the time etc. So there are known bugs to sort thru but then there are the unknowns of it just being a new vehicle and the lack of support. I live in Southern California and there are two dealers but they are both about 80 miles from my home. I had a 2016 BMW I bought brand new and it was broken all the time. There is a BMW dealer about 15 miles from my house AND they provided loan vehicles and it was still very frustrating to be bringing it in all the time. I have no idea what the service experience will be like with one of these. If it breaks under warranty will I have to deal with getting it 80 miles to a dealer and then getting myself back home? Will I be without any vehicle 80 miles from home? There are a whole lot of question marks around the ineos Grenadier. Kudos to them for effort, but for over $80,000 the way I would spec it, I would hope for a great customer experience and from what I can tell it doesn’t seem that great with the roll out up to now. $80,000+ is a lot of money, if they fold up tomorrow, what are we left with? Also I wouldn’t call it “luxury” by any means, the engine is perfect for a work/utility vehicle but “luxury” to me is excess, there is no excess of power on this thing. To me “luxury” is having rear seat air conditioning and power seats. This has none of that. So I don’t know where “luxury” would be used on this.
I think this will be my next vehicle. I’m just wondering if it’s a BMW powertrain can we get theses serviced at BMW that would make or break this deal for me because it seems like the dealerships are very spread out and not very easily accessible for service.
" Well looky what we have here boys. Im Wrangler, and these are my buds Bronco and Defender, and we hear you the new kid on the block. Well all we can say is.....Hang tough." - Ford Bronco, Jeep Wrangler, and Rover Defender
This will be in a whole different class than an American made vehicle. I wanted a Bronco Raptor till I borrowed my friend’s for a few days. Now I no longer want one. I love G wagons, love Defenders, and love the B58 BMW engine. This vehicle will make most people very happy.
@Fedgery007 I don't care if I'm getting groceries, off-roading, racing, or driving the damn get away vehicle, I better get some automatic seats if I'm paying over 80k
No gauge cluster is a deal breaker on such an old-school looking, rugged offroad vehicle. Also, this vehicle with the BMW turbo inline 6 is fairly underpowered for such a massive vehicle, especially at this price point. Would rather get a GX.
I'm almost sold but it doesn't have a driver cluster i prefer watching my own gauge rather than on the center infotainment. Also it is expensive bronco and wrangler are more capable offroad cheaper to repair too.
Well you can buy a 70k bronco with a plastic automatic transmission drain pan. And have a wrecker bring you home while waiting 2 months for a drain pan.
Really cool I love these vehicles. What did you think? Did you know about the little horn button that's for pedestrians red button on the steering wheel on the right hand side? It's a different horn than the normal horn. It's for pedestrians or people on bicycles. It's not as loud. Kinda cool. Rare hats also has a full down table on some of the options. Where the spare tire is on the inside there's a table that folds down.
I just got back from a 2600 mile round trip to Seattle and back to LA in my 2012 Wrangler Rubicon. Almost 12 years old. 96K on the clock. It has solid axles, body on frame, lockers, disconnecting sway bar etc. On regular gas, not super, I averaged 21 mpg over the trip. This new Ineos - body on frame, solid axles etc just like my Wrangler. But the Ineos averages 14mpg on super! It is not more capable off road - less ground clearance, no disconnecting sway bar, and worse on road - slower, 14mpg, really sluggish steering. Basically Ineos has released a dinosaur. A very cool looking dinosaur. Once the novelty factor has worn off, so will the interest. Just wait for the comparison tests against the new LandCruiser/GX, Bronco, latest Wrangler.
Love the look, do not like the center Tablet style gauge at all, even though Recaro is a name brand seat they usually don't feel comfortable to me after a while, they seriously need electronic lumbar and adjustments up and down like others of this caliber especially for long range driving. Most people will never go seriously off road in these so creature comforts are a necessity. I also thing the steering wheel should be just as adjustable for shorter people, IDK just my opinion.
@@RaitisRides I'm certainly not knocking it. It's seems like a cross between a Gelandewagen and a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. It'll be interesting how a new player breaks into the market. And I fully support new start-ups.
I’m not feeling that dashboard setup or lack of it but beside that it’s a great truck but it’s the economy all about the economy at 8 % interest buying a new vehicle right now is a tough pill to swallow
Great vehicle but I am definitely not in favor of absence of normal speedo meter in front of the driver. Too much information on infotainment in the centre. That makes it feel small even though it is a good size.
I thought it was pronounced grenader , maybe just because that sounds cooler and I think most Americans will accidentally call it that, but they look cool and can’t wait to see one in person
I have done 2000 trouble free miles in mine in the last 3 weeks. 6 hrs in it today no problems, no squeeks, no rattles, no problems. The only problem is parties expecting a BMW X5 in the way it drives, it is a 4x4 not a car on stilts. This is a vehicle that feels like it can drive through and over as opposed to around. It will sit at 80 mph all day. If you have tools you can actually take it apart in 5 minutes, unlike so many of the competitors. Something that I will be keeping for a looong time.
Can you keep us updated plz
Likewise, would love to keep hearing updates on this
I would certainly hope a vehicle would go 2000 miles without issue. I personally trust the longetivity of that engine as far as I can throw it though.
The B58 is an extremely reliable engine!
Over due for an update on your comment on owning a Grenadier
So a defender, a g-wagon and a bmw got really drunk one night...
😂😂😂LoL
More or less is that the real history...the owner of belstaff.... English billionaire,drunk and missing the ol'defender....and he create😂this
😂😂😂😂😂❤
No . Have a look at Romanian ARO 24 series build 1972-2006 . This looks 95% like a ARO to be fair . Very good 4x4 vehicles they were
and airbus considering what the button layout is like 😂😂
Thanks Joe. I had but released a reservation on one of these. I did the Arizona test drive (about five minutes in low range up and down a modest trail) and the cool factor on these is through the roof. But there were too many unknowns for me to go through with it: 1. I didn't love it enough to sell my 17 LC200 for; 2. No dealer in PHX, nearest in So Cal, 300 miles away; 3. New manufacture reliability risk; 4. No limit on potential dealer pricing markups; 5. Highway mileage 14mpg; 6. Other than cool factor, not as good of overall off-roader as a Wrangler or Bronco because of dealers, support, history, etc.; 7. It was good, but not great in the test drive, the Ineos staff seemed as dodgy as other manufacturers'. One thing on the test drive event, they left the Grenadiers running for the 30-60 minutes between the 5 minute test drives. For cooling? For batteries? Whatever it was, it didn't feel right.
Thanks for sharing that great experience insight. Should be interesting to see how it pans out!
Thanks for that negative review to balance us out and lots of things to consider.
The test drive vehicles were prototypes. Engines remained on all day because each had to be manually programmed/managed properly at startup and shutdown.
"Fieldstream"...."Grenaidier"....how about getting the names right. Bit hard to take your review seriously when you can't even get the names and model correct.
These have got to have a better reliability rating than a Land Rover.. those have such a poor track record. I'm pretty sure most BMW dealerships are going to be able to service these. Can't be that difficult.
Bring it on
Wasn't expecting this one JOE.
Love the rugged boxy look
I like to bring some surprises!
@@RaitisRides Also check out the boxy and rugged 2024 Lexus GX550
Been following INEOS for a few years now. Glad to see they got this BEAST up and running for release here in the States. Nice to have an alternative European SUV thats not over 100k👍
Tell me about it!
Aren’t these 110k?
Super cool but you gotta pay to play up here in the GR8 White North fully loaded is $117 800.80 as always Thanks Lori for making Joe look like a class act.
You are so ver welcome Dave!
All manual seat controls is a dream come true. Love it!
Thought I was the only one that hates mechanical seats in cars
I've been enjoying the Ineos videos on Harry's garage. It looks legit, including how the back doors open old school (like an Isuzu Trooper). And great to see that buttons are coming back. Btw, the off road screen shows Attitude, not Altitude.
Great to see Ineos has made its way over here. Big kudos for getting this on your channel.
Damn, Isuzu trooper-haven’t seen one of those in ages
Can’t wait to get mine. Put the reservation very early. Some folks have pulled back their reservations because of what they call unknowns. But when I saw the preproduction units built like a damn tank and felt that familiar steering of a true solid axle front end, it was EXACTLY what I was looking for. No need to go crazy with aftermarket gear to make the loaded up from the factory Trialmaster (definitely with the safari roof windows) provide some serious capability off-road. The other issue that perplexes me are the negative comments about that BMW 58 engine. It’s tuned for torque and not blown out for horsepower. That engine has some of the best core mechanical reliability ratings of any six out there. This thing is gonna last a good long time, no doubt. 👍🏻😎👍🏻
Everything was an unknown since this is a brand new manufacturer. People who cancelled reservations because of unknowns were probably never going to buy one anyways.
@@Fedgery007, I tend to agree with you. They were probably just waiting for some justification in the reviews to turn them away from spending the money. But there is no doubt the additional cost overruns made the choice for some. Just wasn’t out of the realm of reality for me so I’m still rubbing my hands in anticipation of getting my grubby mits on that thing and beating the pants off of it. Well, in a matter of speaking, lol. 😎😎😎
Fantastic vehicle but the missing dash is such a negative..
Looks awesome and based on this review, it undercuts in GLS and Land Rover by the thousands $$$. Love it!
it's actually more expensive and can be optioned to be much more expensive.
Dealerships coming to multiple locations in North America so you all gotta drive this thing before talking about it.
I had chance to drive this both on & off road in two different countries and ride was surprisingly good. Extremely well built making no squeaking noise anywhere from the vehicle when off roading even the vehicle had high mileage on it after being used as test vehicle. (This vehicle was built in Mercedes factory). Think about Tesla making noise on highway driving 😂😂
Reliable B57 & B58 engine was a good choice!!
What a fantastic salesman! (And I speak as a salesman.). Such enthusiasm and conveys the desirability of the car. Great job! 🙂
Oh wow! This thing is a monster I’ve never heard of Ineos this is amazing and fire 🔥
They did a great job with it!
Never thought I'd say this, because I love technology in vehicles. The more futuristic the interior looks the better I like it. But, I absolutely love the interior of this Ineos. They did a fantastic job making it look fun to be in and operate all of the buttons and switches. It just looks like it can take a beating and keep on ticking. I would easily pick this over any Land Rover or Mercedes.
Thanks for your great insight!
I've been on their website and built one up. They can get real expensive. Wish the diesel was available like in Europe though. Waiting for your ride and drive video now.
This is very true! Stay tuned!
And for some reason, only the Australians get to pick extra parts like the front and side metal safe guards or what ever they are called .
@@thesteammachine1282homologation
@@thesteammachine1282 Aussie's call them Bull Bars for the one in front, and I was hoping for the same in the US. Maybe After Market?
Hm, I own an Ineos Grenadier Fieldmaster (22/23 initial / original series ) in Germany since about 3 weeks. 763kms on Odometer. Grenadier is by far an OffRoader and less a SUV. Or- if an SUV what they where in the beginning. - An Offroader with some comfort and a bit of paved road capability. It is a lot of fun driving it - even with recirculating ball steering, No mirrors in Sunshades, no lights for the lady to review the make up, no coathooks. No lane assist, no electronic reminder and instructor telling me do this do that. Driving it is entirely MY responsibility. There are a lot of journalists looking at it from a road car and offroad mimic SUV perspective. - If you purchase a Grenadier be aware - this is a true dino saur. A loing distance overlanding offroader, meant to go well on unpaved corrugated tracks but not a rock cat like a Wrangler but paved road capable. Fun with every mile. But know exactly if you want this..
Absolutely right !!!
Ineos Grenadier is NOT shitty SUV, it's OFF-ROAD car and with this in mind it was developed! Most of SUVs doesn't have locked differentials, reduction gears etc. SUV is a vehicle to make groceries and travel with family of four.
I was given an opportunity to test drive one of these a couple of weeks back in Pasadena California and loved it! It’s a fantastic driving experience and perfectly designed for the vehicles intended use.
Hey Joe. It it one more SUV that costs too much money and does not give potential buyers enough luxury of the items that parking lot queens use! I will stay with the 2024 Jeep Wrangler Mohave. Keep up the excellent reviews. Thanks to Lori for the fantastic camera work. Not an easy feat to do.
It’s a 4x4 off-road vehicle. Not a grocery getter.
Let's try crossing the actual Mojave in both cars and see which one makes it. Oh, but you can't use roads. 🤣
Jeeps are the ones that are overpriced. Cheaply built.
This is the story I received from a friend in Romania:
They are looking like Land Rover Defender but they are not cheap at all.
A very rich English guy (a bear maker or something) was so sad when the old Defender version has been retreated as he went to Land Rover and asked them to sell the old Defender's production line in order to let him to continue to make Defender. They refused his offer and he was so determined to make a Defender looking car as he made his own 4x4 company. What you see has a BMW 3.0 diesel engine, an automatic gear box made by ZF, a Magna Steyr (one of the most famous European parts and car maker - Mercedes G Klass is made by them) 4x4 system. The price is much bigger than the old Defender's price used to be.
“If you see a G wagon stuck in a parking lot” lol! 😂
I agree, just bought one, waiting for it to arrive!
Never heard about this brand. Loved it.
I am really digging it!
This vehicle needs a driver side gauge cluster. I'd hate having to constantly look side ways to the central infotainment cluster to check my speed and every thing else. This vehicle should also give you the option to disengage four wheel drive when not needed, to decrease wear and tear on drivetrain as oppose to full time 4 wheel drive that it is equipped with.
It’s a 4x4 off-road vehicle. Not a grocery getter.
@@Fedgery007 So in your opinion, Jeep Wrangler and the Toyota 4Runners are grocery getters because the have the capability to have their 4x4 system turned off? Give your head a shake. The grocery getters are, in fact, the ones that have permanent all wheel drive on not real 4x4s.. Ignorance is bliss eh Fedgery007?
My gx460 is full time 4WD and my old g500 got 312k miles in 4WD. Full time 4WD is not an issue for wear and tear if it’s designed that way.
Beaten to death the last couple of years - current owners will tell you it is a non-event. Like driving a Mini or flying an aircraft - takes 5 min to get used to it.
@@Fedgery007 So you're going to flat bed it to the trails?
Bro I swore you were gunna drop a $140k price tag. $70k ? That’s really respectable.
Love the look on the exterior and the interior. Cheers to you England 🇬🇧 👍.
Looks a lot like a Defender 110. This would be a fun vehicle for awhile, but reliability is king.
@marklevit2253new g wagon starts at $140,000 twice the price of this
If you saw it in person you would not be saying that.
It is based on old defender
They have been testing this for years in deserts and the Outback and it is very reliable as far as the testing show,it is built very tough solid axles and solid suspension , I want one
@@jon7926 Go for it!!
I work for Crown. I will hopefully be selling Ineos soon. Great unbiased video. You did a great job. I subscribed.
Extremely ergonomic & durable vehicle inside out. Great looking as well. Well done 👍
Looks like a combination of several vehicles. I really dig it. For the price I'd take this over a lot of other brands. Thanks for the review and info 👍🏼
I saw two car haulers full of these south of Omaha a few weeks ago and had no idea what they were.
That’s a well built vehicle 👌🏻
I saw Lori's reflection while you were showing the rear exterior and it occurred to me the hard work and skill that is involved. Great job, Lori! (I hope that's the correct spelling of her name.)
I literally seen on of these on the highway today and was so confused on what it was! Now I know! Lol
Thanks for letting me share the info with you!
This car is now on my dream car list it’s beautiful
Joe I saw a huge scratch on the rear interior panel and that storage panel also looked Ill fitting?
It is a pre-production.
Joe great video as always, beautiful suv😍 great price for this suv way cheaper than g wagon, can’t wait to get one
Perfect every day utility vehicle
It will do just about anything!
PRETTY NICE -YES IT DOES CHECK OFF THE BOXES FOR A PREMO--I WOULD BUY ONE JOE
If GWagon and Defender had a baby......😮
You are hilarious!
I like it, didn’t think I would, but it looks real good
I wish car manufacturers would stop using gloss black interior trim. I have an AMG E53 Cabriolet, first car I've owned with gloss black trim, and I don't like the gloss black. It scratches sooo easily!
You are spot on about that!
Interesting Joe. Looks like it belongs on the Australian Outback 😎
Do they have twinkies in Australia? 😊
I can totally see that! Yeah of course they do Tom. They are just upside dowm
@@RaitisRideslol !
Huggy Bear 😂 My call sign was ‘Snuggles’
Nice, not too many electronics. An SUV that can really be taken off road
Big time!
That INEOS looks fantastic!
Okay those roof mounted aircraft type control/switches are fucking awesome
Wow Joe i never heard of this SUV before, however I like what I see so far in your review.
I am so glad that I can share the details with you!
omg been waiting for this one!
I am so glad that I could bring it to you!
It is a really cool vehicle, i went to a drive event in California. I liked that they had one tilted up on a ramp so we could see underneath it at the drive event, it really has some beefy stuff underneath it seems like they used some high quality/spec components BUT some of the overseas reviews from people, it seems like it needs some fine tuning between features flat out not working, interior bits coming apart, warning lights mysteriously coming on with no codes, parking sensors beeping all the time etc. So there are known bugs to sort thru but then there are the unknowns of it just being a new vehicle and the lack of support. I live in Southern California and there are two dealers but they are both about 80 miles from my home. I had a 2016 BMW I bought brand new and it was broken all the time. There is a BMW dealer about 15 miles from my house AND they provided loan vehicles and it was still very frustrating to be bringing it in all the time. I have no idea what the service experience will be like with one of these. If it breaks under warranty will I have to deal with getting it 80 miles to a dealer and then getting myself back home? Will I be without any vehicle 80 miles from home? There are a whole lot of question marks around the ineos Grenadier. Kudos to them for effort, but for over $80,000 the way I would spec it, I would hope for a great customer experience and from what I can tell it doesn’t seem that great with the roll out up to now. $80,000+ is a lot of money, if they fold up tomorrow, what are we left with? Also I wouldn’t call it “luxury” by any means, the engine is perfect for a work/utility vehicle but “luxury” to me is excess, there is no excess of power on this thing. To me “luxury” is having rear seat air conditioning and power seats. This has none of that. So I don’t know where “luxury” would be used on this.
Really like that interior except having to look to the right at the small screen. Very cool vehicle though.
yeah that is a sore spot!
Raiti’s Rides make the best videos ever :)
I appreciate you Miguel!
@@RaitisRides Thanks Joe! I’m glad you appreciate me! 😊
10:09 since the grenadier is powered by a BMW Turbo I6 engine just like the Toyota Supra can it be serviced at a BMW dealership??
That is a great question!
Any Bosch certified shop could service. INEOS has a fully exploded electronic shop manual.
I think this will be my next vehicle. I’m just wondering if it’s a BMW powertrain can we get theses serviced at BMW that would make or break this deal for me because it seems like the dealerships are very spread out and not very easily accessible for service.
Joe keep up the good work real true and I love the video real true 👍
You got it brother!
" Well looky what we have here boys. Im Wrangler, and these are my buds Bronco and Defender, and we hear you the new kid on the block. Well all we can say is.....Hang tough."
- Ford Bronco, Jeep Wrangler, and Rover Defender
I like what you did there Chris!
I have a new bronco and I've got a grenadier on order. having driven both I can tell you they are very very different vehicles.@@RaitisRides
This will be in a whole different class than an American made vehicle. I wanted a Bronco Raptor till I borrowed my friend’s for a few days. Now I no longer want one.
I love G wagons, love Defenders, and love the B58 BMW engine. This vehicle will make most people very happy.
Thanks JOE, thanks Lori
Thanks Joe!! 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
We hope these cars are abundant in Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦🇸🇦
Love the retro style with the old school knobs, but the manual seats? That's a huge ZONK for me 🤔
Everyone has the things that are important to them!
It’s a 4x4 off-road vehicle. Not a grocery getter.
@Fedgery007 I don't care if I'm getting groceries, off-roading, racing, or driving the damn get away vehicle, I better get some automatic seats if I'm paying over 80k
You can wash the interior…less electrics is better
@@DomSr Typical lard ass American requirements
Nice looking vehicle. The lack of a cluster for the driver directly in front in the line of sight makes no sense.
No gauge cluster is a deal breaker on such an old-school looking, rugged offroad vehicle.
Also, this vehicle with the BMW turbo inline 6 is fairly underpowered for such a massive vehicle, especially at this price point. Would rather get a GX.
Everyone is going to have their favorites!
Who makes this car. Where is it made?
Those doors sound solid
That looks perfect Raiti for a African Safari 😀🐅🦓🦏🐘🐒🐯🦁
Really missing speedometer in front of dashboard..
That is a old school defender giving another name.
What a Defender 110 Used to be But I Still Like the New Defender 110, More. The I.G.F. Should Have a Heads Up Display For Speed & etc.
I like this one Joe ...
I am missing small dash with just 3 guages and ventilated seats at this price point are necessary
Where can I get one. This would be perfect for Alaska
No speedometer in front??? How do I speed without getting caught😜😜😜🤪🤪🤪😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝
That’s amazing an off road car! So cool
I am so glad that you like this one Darrion!
@@RaitisRides it’s awesome! I can’t wait for the driving part
I'm almost sold but it doesn't have a driver cluster i prefer watching my own gauge rather than on the center infotainment. Also it is expensive bronco and wrangler are more capable offroad cheaper to repair too.
Well you can buy a 70k bronco with a plastic automatic transmission drain pan. And have a wrecker bring you home while waiting 2 months for a drain pan.
Are they reliable?
Well it has a BMW engine!
Really cool I love these vehicles. What did you think? Did you know about the little horn button that's for pedestrians red button on the steering wheel on the right hand side? It's a different horn than the normal horn. It's for pedestrians or people on bicycles. It's not as loud. Kinda cool. Rare hats also has a full down table on some of the options. Where the spare tire is on the inside there's a table that folds down.
I just got back from a 2600 mile round trip to Seattle and back to LA in my 2012 Wrangler Rubicon. Almost 12 years old. 96K on the clock. It has solid axles, body on frame, lockers, disconnecting sway bar etc. On regular gas, not super, I averaged 21 mpg over the trip. This new Ineos - body on frame, solid axles etc just like my Wrangler. But the Ineos averages 14mpg on super! It is not more capable off road - less ground clearance, no disconnecting sway bar, and worse on road - slower, 14mpg, really sluggish steering. Basically Ineos has released a dinosaur. A very cool looking dinosaur. Once the novelty factor has worn off, so will the interest. Just wait for the comparison tests against the new LandCruiser/GX, Bronco, latest Wrangler.
"G-Wagon stuck in a mall parking lot" I love it. Shade where it's due.
Love the look, do not like the center Tablet style gauge at all, even though Recaro is a name brand seat they usually don't feel comfortable to me after a while, they seriously need electronic lumbar and adjustments up and down like others of this caliber especially for long range driving. Most people will never go seriously off road in these so creature comforts are a necessity. I also thing the steering wheel should be just as adjustable for shorter people, IDK just my opinion.
Thanks Joe. Awesome video. Anything with a bmw won’t last forever but the materials look good.
3:47 it looks like the CBS logo but turned sideways tbh
LOL you are hilarious!
@@RaitisRides i know just came out randomly I know it’s Friday
Can anyone explain why it's 15mpg rated? Been trying to figure out why a 6 cylinder BMW engine has such low MPG ratings.
because its so heavy.
@@lifesgud2 Bummer....
Almost identical to the outgoing Land Rover Defender model but smaller and shrank down
"We got a compiss"
You crack me up with your quirks.
I'm calling it! Watch people slap a Mercedes badge in front of this, it's gonna happen 😂
Interesting, but it picked a tough, crowded arena to play in.
This is true but I think they have some interesting touches.
@@RaitisRides I'm certainly not knocking it. It's seems like a cross between a Gelandewagen and a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. It'll be interesting how a new player breaks into the market. And I fully support new start-ups.
Time code 09:02 - WOW!!! I finally saw LORI today - through her reflection on the back of the vehicle😍😍🥰
One word, " wow " !
Would be nice if it came with some 33" tyres standard
I’m not feeling that dashboard setup or lack of it but beside that it’s a great truck but it’s the economy all about the economy at 8 % interest buying a new vehicle right now is a tough pill to swallow
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this one.
For those who want a G wagon but don’t wanna pay that G wagon price ❤
Honestly looks better than a G wagon too so win win in my book
No chancce for 80,000. Why? we got "reliable TOYOTA" for 50,000 Land Cruiser 250.
this is an awesome and very interesting vehicle.
I think they did a great job with it!
Can’t wait till you get your hands on the amg GT 2024
Great vehicle but I am definitely not in favor of absence of normal speedo meter in front of the driver. Too much information on infotainment in the centre. That makes it feel small even though it is a good size.
Do you see the wheels, look at how round they are.
I thought it was pronounced grenader , maybe just because that sounds cooler and I think most Americans will accidentally call it that, but they look cool and can’t wait to see one in person
Tomato, Tomatoe
Land Rover Revamp. Defender 110 It’s just perfect
B58 with ZF8speed is perfect.