The Stroudsburg Enigma

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @MissKellyBean
    @MissKellyBean 4 месяца назад +42

    As to the lack of photo taking: it might be hard to believe, but prior to cell phones and social media, people did not think to photograph every event in life. Even strange events. There was maybe that "one girl" that always had a camera, but if she wasn't there, photos weren't being taken. 😂 No one had a camera in their pocket or a cell phone (like now), and we rarely thought to get one unless it was Christmas morning or the first day of school. It's just not something people did.

    • @j0shj0shj0sh
      @j0shj0shj0sh 4 месяца назад +12

      Reminds me of what a witness to the Phoenix Lights once said. His name was Mike Fortson. He has since passed away. He and his wife saw a huge triangular craft - that he estimated to be at least a mile wide - slowly glide in full view in front of his home, whilst there was still enough sunlight available to make out the edge of its shape. They were in awe, and he said it was a profound and life altering experience - he was telling himself not to blink. He said: "If you saw the hand of God descending from the clouds, would you really be running around looking for a camera? - or would you just be too busy staring with your mouth wide open?" He makes a good point.

    • @baruchben-david4196
      @baruchben-david4196 4 месяца назад +5

      Agree. It was unusual to take a camera with you, unless you were going on vacation, or having a family gathering, that sort of thing... Special occasions. You had to have film, and often you just wouldn't have film at hand, even if you wanted to use the camera. Oh - and you only got 24 or 36 shots on a roll of film.

    • @marklewandowski8474
      @marklewandowski8474 3 месяца назад

      Funny how UFO spottings have essentially vanished since everyone started carrying high quality cameras 24/7.
      Based on 1990s media (and zero understanding of 4th grade level physics), one would have expected us to see a new 4k video of aliens every day now. Guess they're superior beings that traveled unfathomable physical and temporal distances to do nothing except avoid modern cameras.

    • @anticensorshipsociety1063
      @anticensorshipsociety1063 3 месяца назад +3

      I found myself in Monroe County Correctional facility in 1991 and heard this story from an supposed eyewitness , the part about making it rain and mist in cells in the old jail.

    • @eddietowers5595
      @eddietowers5595 3 месяца назад

      @MissKellyBean, Well, though it's true that back then no one could be prepared for such an experience, the key word would be "an", as in "one time", by the second time and/or more times after: and no one is prepared with a camera, at this point...yeah, it didn't happen.

  • @lilyw.719
    @lilyw.719 4 месяца назад +29

    I used to live in Stroudsburg, right next to the Sarah Street Grill. I highly recommend the food there!

  • @margaretburn713
    @margaretburn713 4 месяца назад +20

    What an extraordinary story. I found it very interesting. Thank you for sharing.

    • @curiousdark
      @curiousdark  4 месяца назад +1

      Indeed it is! Glad you liked it Margaret 😊

  • @Johnniebhoy83
    @Johnniebhoy83 4 месяца назад +32

    A very real case, it's always been a personal favourite of mine. Creepy AF.

    • @curiousdark
      @curiousdark  4 месяца назад +8

      Cheers Johnnie! I feel the same

    • @dallasschaub6717
      @dallasschaub6717 4 месяца назад +2

      @@Johnniebhoy83 it's a silly little story. Dont forget to be a grown-up at some point! 😁

    • @cashflowglo7262
      @cashflowglo7262 4 месяца назад +3

      Yes mine too. From years and years ago. Still the most creepiest thing ever. I felt so bad for them.

    • @SG-xy6hf
      @SG-xy6hf 4 месяца назад +4

      @@dallasschaub6717you seem fun… not

    • @dallasschaub6717
      @dallasschaub6717 4 месяца назад

      @@SG-xy6hf by fun do you mean gullible?? Because that im not! 😊

  • @terriodonnell6239
    @terriodonnell6239 3 месяца назад +2

    Thanks! I really enjoy listening to you tell the stories.

    • @curiousdark
      @curiousdark  3 месяца назад

      Hey Terri! So glad you are enjoying the videos 😊
      You're the first person ever to tip us, so thank you so much for that! May your generosity be repaid tenfold 🙏️
      All the best,
      Mr. A

  • @void________
    @void________ 3 месяца назад +1

    This was one of the scariest incidents featured on Unsolved Mysteries bc of the reenactments and witness interviews. Those cops were shook. It was so bizarre it couldn't have been made up.

  • @beenabarna1403
    @beenabarna1403 4 месяца назад +5

    Thank you

    • @curiousdark
      @curiousdark  3 месяца назад

      You're welcome, thanks for watching 😊

  • @mleh2512
    @mleh2512 4 месяца назад +7

    Great story, thanks @CuriousDark.
    I’d always wondered about this guy’s magnetic field. I never considered any demonic forces but I can imagine how witnesses and even he himself could go that route.
    As someone with hemochromatosis I have interest in how some disease findings can have inexplicable interactions with our direct environment.

    • @curiousdark
      @curiousdark  4 месяца назад +3

      Lovely to see you in the comments again MLE 😊
      Magnetic field huh? Interesting angle 🤔 It's true, sometimes we humans jump to magical/paranormal conclusions when there is an entirely logical scientific explanation just waiting to be discovered. The northern lights or solar eclipses are great examples of this.
      Sorry to hear about the hemochromatosis 😟

    • @mouthofthesouth71
      @mouthofthesouth71 3 месяца назад +1

      I too have haemochromatosis & for many years before it was diagnosed & treated I was very sensitive to electricity, probably was a higher conducter of it because of all the iron! The slightest touch of anything metal generated such an electric shock that would near knock me down. Not sure about magnetism

  • @Birdy606
    @Birdy606 4 месяца назад +9

    Damn... sclerosis of the liver?...shew..hate when that happens...so so sad😢😢

    • @Birdy606
      @Birdy606 4 месяца назад

      @@LittleBlueOwl318 no shit Sherlock...he said sclerosis in the video if you took the time to watch before commenting maybe you would know that

    • @aubreyleonae4108
      @aubreyleonae4108 4 месяца назад +1

      I took a homeopathic medication, cleared it right up.

  • @johannesbluemink4581
    @johannesbluemink4581 3 месяца назад +1

    I don't know if (the late) Colin Wilson ever heard this story. I am certain he would have included such case in his countless books about Mysteries, Poltergeists, Possessions and Paranormal Events in General!

  • @jimjo8541
    @jimjo8541 4 месяца назад +3

    “Oh man those scratches are coming from thin air! Welp, let’s go chill out and watch TV…”

    • @void________
      @void________ 3 месяца назад

      Well, what else are they gonna do?

  • @Roox8115
    @Roox8115 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank you so much for your hard work in researching this complex case and making a video about it. You have a natural talent for this kind of stories. All of the arguments brought forward for the legitimacy of this case were correct. To me, this case has many classic characteristics of the "poltergeist" phenomena, which are basically direct interactions with intelligent extremely malevolent entities, which, in turn, is another way of calling demons. The lower-level ones don't usually operate individually, but as a group (they are structured in "legions") and the group can operate as one. They are forbidden to transgress from their dimension into our dimension and reveal themselves in our physical world they way they did in this case, unless....they are "invited", in other words summoned, which equals they have the specific consent of a person. In this case, i would bet you anything that the grandfather was involved with a Satanic cult, at the highest degree. He was the leader of that cult (the image of the "old man with a crown") and therefore, he summoned them on numerous occasions through rituals and high-level witchcraft (or "greater magic" as it is called). Not only that, he made his grandson take part in them, which is how "they" knew about him (that's why he remembered him as a "monster"). Moreover, it seems there had been some prior agreement that upon the physical demise of the grandfather, they would pass to the grandson for his soul. And that's why everything unfolded the way it did. Whoever has doubts about all these things, can search for the concepts i mentioned. These things are no joke and they should never be under-estimated. They do it to mock, humiliate and possibly destroy humans, who are the Lord's Creation. On a more general note, and in order to see how a Satanic cult can influence not just a person, a family, a house, but a whole area/perimeter of houses and streets, adjacent to where they functioned (even if it was in the past), there is a very interesting episode in "Ghost Nation" TV series (very well done by paranormal investigators Jason Hawes, Steve Gonsalves and Dave Tango, formerly from the "Ghost Hunters"TV series) exactly about this topic. Episode 15 in Season 2 called "Lady in Black", which takes place in Newcastle, Pennsylvania, initially about a couple who had lost their 14-year old girl in mysterious circumstances, actually unearths a problem greater than the entire paranormal team ever imagined. While there had been no prior Satanic activity directly linked to the house and family in the past or present, there had been a Satanic cult in that particular area in the 70s (as per the investigators' discovery) and people had been murdered or kidnapped not far away from the couple's house (the couple had no idea about the history of the area when they moved in that house). It's worth watching it in order to better understand how these things work. Discovery channel's "A Haunting" exceptional series, spanning 13 years, also present many real cases of these manifestations. Sorry about the long comment, hopefully it was useful!😀

    • @cleanserene6330
      @cleanserene6330 4 месяца назад +1

      Absolutely fascinating. I appreciate so much that you took the time to write.
      Do you think the chief of police was truly in denial, or could he have been a secret member of the satanic cult you postulate?

  • @jxn1056
    @jxn1056 4 месяца назад +4

    Oh yay thank you so much Curious Dark ❤❤❤😊

    • @curiousdark
      @curiousdark  4 месяца назад

      Hey Tina! You're most welcome as always 😀

  • @falconquest2068
    @falconquest2068 4 месяца назад +15

    This is a testament to the fact that we do not truly understand our world.

    • @CypressJuice
      @CypressJuice 4 месяца назад +7

      Or that people have active imaginations

  • @DarkInvader1963
    @DarkInvader1963 4 месяца назад +13

    He Pronounced It Correctly, You People Are Too Quick To Judge And Make Stupid Comments. Grow Up Children !

    • @alysononoahu8702
      @alysononoahu8702 4 месяца назад +3

      100%agree

    • @LittleBlueOwl318
      @LittleBlueOwl318 4 месяца назад

      No. No, he did not... and there's a huge difference between sclerosis and cirrhosis - but thank you for enabling continued stupidity & contributing to the dumbing down of America.

  • @Modeltnick
    @Modeltnick 3 месяца назад

    I was born in Stroudsburg. A few years ago I stopped at a motel near the interstate that was a large outdated place that really gave me the creeps. There was a very strange vibe there, for sure.

  • @void________
    @void________ 3 месяца назад +1

    The police officers, warden and clergy were interviewed on Unsolved Mysteries and confirmed everything said.

  • @torikazuki8701
    @torikazuki8701 4 месяца назад +7

    Excellent recounting of events. Sady, our purely materialistic ideology has done more damage to people trying to deal with events like this than any other single thing.
    Up until roughly 200 years ago, perhaps less, the fact there were beings we cannot normally perceive who exist, was not questioned. Nor was it the wild imaginations of 'primitive' man. As if us owning smartphones makes us superior to previous generations.
    I have had numerous supernatural events that have happened to me over my 53 years. Including a direct confrontation with an Evil Spirit PRETENDING to be the ghost of a dead human. All of these events involved other witnesses. To deny there was no paranormal force behind these encounters would require me to be crazier than those who deny that world's existence, think people who experience such things are.

    • @catmastertrash369
      @catmastertrash369 4 месяца назад +1

      You mentioned a direct confrontation with an evil spirit pretending to be the ghost of a dead human - I had a similar experience in 2011.
      I could hear this thing with my naked ears, no equipment. Couldn't see anyone, but I could hear them and it was very clear. My house wasn't haunted and I still don't know what might have triggered it, I was struggling with insomnia at the time but I still do occasionally and don't have this happen. There was direct conversation for nearly 10 hours. It pretended to be loved ones of mine that passed. If I walked out of the room, I could still hear it like it was there next to me but I couldn't find a source of the voice, which amused it. I asked "How am I able to hear you?" the answer was "The soup doesn't make itself."
      Wasn't so much evil as it was an a**hole trickster, but that's hindsight. In the moment I didn't know if it was ghosts, demons, angels or aliens. I still don't know whether it was all one entity or the several it pretended to be. It told me events that would come to pass, it cut the power to my house for about 30 seconds and somehow the clocks weren't affected. The events it mentioned (very specific ones) did come to pass in my life. I still don't know to this day what I was dealing with. Haven't had anything like this clairaudient experience before or since, thankfully.

    • @torikazuki8701
      @torikazuki8701 4 месяца назад +2

      @@catmastertrash369 Well, I'll be upfront about this, I've been a Christian for the last 33 years (I'm 53) and this encounter happened in 1993. Two Girls I knew in college had asked me & another guy to be there.
      The creature initially pretended to be the ghost of a dead 19-year old Greek Fisherman who had died in a boating accdient in the Mediterranean back in 1917. The girls had asked it a number of important questions (One's Grandmother was sick, was she going to die? Etc...)
      This angered me greatly, the Bible is clear that when we die, we are essentially 'asleep' and know nothing. (Other than EXTREMELY rare exceptions) 'Ghosts' as Pop Culture thinks of them, do nto exist. Good Angels, Fallen Angels and the Spirits of Dead Hybrids, condemed to wander the Earth, are the only 'Otherworldly' beings humans interact with.
      As my anger grew, the responses on the board grew jumbled and confused. Though she later said she had no idea why she'd asked it, at that moment she asked- 'Is something in the room bothering you?'
      Quickly, but deliberately, the board spelled out my first name.
      Instantly, I had one of those events that only took a second externally, but much longer subjectively. I became aware of this being's gaze on me and could 'see' a gigantic single eye, perhaps 20ft tall. But far worse was the force this creature presented.
      Now, I'm not afraid of humans. I understand there are those who are smarter, stronger, faster, ones who could kill me in a second with a pencil, but they're still mortal. They still have to put their pants on one leg at a time, they still have to deal with bathroom issues, like we all do.
      But this, 'Thing', though it was releated, was not human and had never been. In life it was stronger than a human could possibly be. It was smarter, wiser (in a worldly sense), more clever than we were. It also had a stupendous aura of malice, a deep hatred and resentment of humans that's hard to understand. Its body may have died, but its hate had been growing over the millennia and was now a monsterous thing.
      It was utterly terrifying. I felt like a bug on a pin.
      But then, I started to hear a tremendous sound, like the combination of a Tidal Wave with the roar of a Lion. It soon became all I could hear or perceive. God's Word tells us that when we repent of our Crimes and ask Jesus Christ to forgive us, and become our King and Redeemer, the Holy Spirit of God comes to live inside us.
      That Spirit was now here, and my fear vanished. Replaced with a sense of glory and joy I can't possibly describe. So, there I was, pivoted between these two great spirits, like a little fly about to get swatted between them, but I was not afraid.
      I asked, 'Lord Jesus, if my life is required to defeat this monster, I'll gladly give it.' Instead, I had the unmistakable sense of someone putting their arm around my shoulders and turning me away from the confrontation. Along with that, I felt/heard, 'Not now. Not Yet. Now is not the time.'
      The next thing I know, I'm driving through the nighttime streets of the collge town I was in, listening to a 'Men at Work' album.
      When I returned to the dorm, the girls and guy were in the dorm's lounge, basically all huddled together. From there perspective, after my name was spelled, I suddenly stood up, said, 'I'm outta here.' and left.
      Then, things got terrifying for the Girls, as their hands were cruelly pressed to the Planchet as it flew over the board incredibly fast. They managed to pick out a few words, 'My Girls', 'Supposed to be Mine.' 'Promised', then it flew to the 'Bye' word and they were free.
      They threw everything in the game box, dropped it off at the owner's room and fled to the lounge.
      I shared the Gospel with them and said that as long as they didn't screw around with anything else like that, they *should* be okay. Which they all emphatically agreed they would never do again.
      I don't know what, if ANYTHING, you did to get these being's attention. Sadly, you may not have been responsible at all. These creatures can attach themselves to families in a generational manner. Perhaps one of your ancestors did something that gave them a claim on you.
      All I know for sure, is that your Creator loves you, as He deeply loves everyone He has made. He doesn't want you to come under any kind of oppression, from within or without, nor does He want you to go to the place they will, when they are finally judged.
      I can't possibly know where you stand or know about Jesus Christ, but if you have access to a Bible, I would encourage you to read the 4 Gospels and the Book of Acts. It's not mythology, it's not fantasy, it's an accurate account of the most important event in human history, where God's Son became a human to take the punishment we all deserve onto himself, so we don't have to suffer it.

    • @bartstewart8644
      @bartstewart8644 4 месяца назад +2

      @@torikazuki8701 Tales of the supernatural get busted all the time. Some endure because there was no way to examine them. A ghost that is only reported every few years is going to be hard to study. Also, people WANT to believe in this stuff. That's what really drives it.

    • @larsvonrinpoche1229
      @larsvonrinpoche1229 4 месяца назад +1

      Sure..but women were also witches among other things...

    • @bartstewart8644
      @bartstewart8644 4 месяца назад

      @@larsvonrinpoche1229 The United States has to be the most superstitious country on earth next to Haiti. It's pitiful.

  • @krispinwahsghost5999
    @krispinwahsghost5999 4 месяца назад +4

    It's all gotta be circumstantial or a or everyone jumping to ridiculous conclusions. Water changing direction in mid air ? Come on.

  • @catserver8577
    @catserver8577 4 месяца назад +4

    I'm going to side with urban legend. JMO.

  • @grantskelton1219
    @grantskelton1219 4 месяца назад +6

    How does this channel have only 15k subs?

    • @curiousdark
      @curiousdark  4 месяца назад +1

      Everyone has to start somewhere I guess? Appreciate your sentiment though Grant 😀

    • @bertkilborne6464
      @bertkilborne6464 4 месяца назад

      Mr Ballen and Dougie Corrado got there first

    • @Tempe1962
      @Tempe1962 4 месяца назад

      Add one more-me.

  • @donnablack6280
    @donnablack6280 4 месяца назад +2

    Seems to be one of the lesser demons; not greatly powerful but certainly annoying and alarming.

  • @mattsreptileroom
    @mattsreptileroom 3 месяца назад

    I live about an hr away from stroudsburg. This story is intense.

  • @Tenoch420
    @Tenoch420 4 месяца назад +3

    Nice.

  • @StrGzr101
    @StrGzr101 3 месяца назад +6

    I'll take "Shit That Never Happened" for a hundred, Alex.

    • @eddietowers5595
      @eddietowers5595 3 месяца назад

      LOL. I concur.

    • @void________
      @void________ 3 месяца назад

      The cops were interviewed for this story on Unsolved Mysteries.

    • @StrGzr101
      @StrGzr101 3 месяца назад +1

      @@void________ Oh, well, that changes everything. Folks on T.V. never lie. I just feel silly now.

    • @void________
      @void________ 3 месяца назад

      @@StrGzr101 What reason would cops have to lie and tarnish their legacy? You act like they went on a press tour, wrote books and got rich from this. They literally confirmed everything then retired.

    • @custardgannet4836
      @custardgannet4836 8 дней назад

      Yeah, that's the smart bet.

  • @LaurieValdez-zk3dy
    @LaurieValdez-zk3dy 4 месяца назад +2

    This is a very sad story😢

  • @p.e.p2368
    @p.e.p2368 4 месяца назад +2

    Someone is in a trance and unresponsive. They call their landlord and NOT a doctor ? 😂

    • @curiousdark
      @curiousdark  4 месяца назад +1

      For the leak obviously 😂
      They probably just ruled out his strange behaviour as a grief response after the funeral. At least before things started getting even more strange.

    • @LittleBlueOwl318
      @LittleBlueOwl318 4 месяца назад

      ...because of the water leaking everywhere they NOTIFIED the landlord - they sure didn't call him for medical assistance 🙄

  • @danielhughes441
    @danielhughes441 2 месяца назад

    You don’t have to say “cirrhosis of the liver,” that’s redundant since you can only get cirrhosis IN the liver (it never affects any other organ).

  • @arielhamm-flores6893
    @arielhamm-flores6893 4 месяца назад +4

    this feals like enquier story from 91

  • @David-bg9od
    @David-bg9od 4 месяца назад +2

    Spunds like someone in the story is lying

  • @wouters1180
    @wouters1180 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm wondering why the old man in the mirror was wearing a crown? It's such a curious detail.

    • @curiousdark
      @curiousdark  4 месяца назад

      Indeed!

    • @Fido-vm9zi
      @Fido-vm9zi 4 месяца назад

      ​@@curiousdarkOld man is wise!

    • @Fido-vm9zi
      @Fido-vm9zi 4 месяца назад

      I could write books on an old man & his crown! Rich symbolism and so meaningful.

  • @damarysdingui
    @damarysdingui 4 месяца назад +5

    Just recently found this channel and I subscribed..
    You have amazing and chilling content..
    Thanks for sharing, CD..💖

    • @curiousdark
      @curiousdark  4 месяца назад +1

      Welcome Damarys, thank you 😊
      Glad you like the channel!

    • @damarysdingui
      @damarysdingui 4 месяца назад +1

      @@curiousdark.. I thought you didn't see my comment.. Thank you for replying..😁💖

  • @aVerveQuest
    @aVerveQuest 4 месяца назад +1

    Anyone else find it odd that goes to always seem to scratch or smack. They never seem to stab or kill orchard. Odd that

    • @lilyw.719
      @lilyw.719 4 месяца назад +1

      No, it's not odd at all. Demons are not allowed to do whatever they want. They operate within the rules that God sets for them. He has them on a pretty short leash, actually. They're not allowed to actually kill people, for instance. There's only so much they're allowed to do. You should try listening to interviews with exorcists.

    • @PeachysMom
      @PeachysMom 4 месяца назад +1

      @@lilyw.719god controls demons? 😂

  • @atlasgunther8947
    @atlasgunther8947 3 месяца назад

    West is best. To avoid the Beast Avoid the East. Monroe County is in the East side of PA and Stroudsburg is in the East side of MC.

  • @MatthewOfLondon
    @MatthewOfLondon 4 месяца назад +3

    I enjoy the paranormal and I ❤ the occult. Oh yes.

    • @curiousdark
      @curiousdark  4 месяца назад

      Cheers Matthew! You seem like a very nice man and thoroughly decent chap.

  • @badgerbadger-badger-Poppy
    @badgerbadger-badger-Poppy 4 месяца назад +3

    This was on Unsolved Mysteries a million years ago. There’s no way it’s true

  • @pikachu6031
    @pikachu6031 4 месяца назад +11

    Just a small point old chap: It’s actually called: “CIRRHOSIS” of the Liver, not Sclerosis……”Cirrhosis” means the Hardening of the liver tissue…..”Sclerosis”, as in Multiple Sclerosis for example: Means “Scarring” on the Spinal Cord….Hope that helps! Great video by the way…I very much enjoyed it!

    • @Lame.....
      @Lame..... 4 месяца назад +9

      False. Both terms are correct. One is just less popular.

    • @pikachu6031
      @pikachu6031 4 месяца назад +5

      @@Lame..... Seems nobody agrees with you!

    • @Lame.....
      @Lame..... 4 месяца назад

      @@pikachu6031 google it

    • @frogmastiff8198
      @frogmastiff8198 4 месяца назад +6

      if you listen carefully you'll notice he does pronounce cirrhosis, its just affected by his accent

    • @p.e.p2368
      @p.e.p2368 4 месяца назад +4

      @pikachu. Look again !!😂. So, someone not pushing a like button fast enough means he's wrong ? BOTH TERMS ARE CORRECT. Let me guess, you're rather young aren't you ? If you were older, you would have heard the other term used.🙄

  • @russellst.martin4255
    @russellst.martin4255 4 месяца назад +2

    Yeah it's annoying when people are skeptics just to be skeptics instead of objectively reacting to what evidence is there or simply refraining from coming to a conclusion rather than filling in the rest with what they believe is or isn't possible. Some of the mental gymnastics being done to explain things end up sounding just as fantastic as the supernatural.

  • @spacetimeandtimespace2942
    @spacetimeandtimespace2942 3 месяца назад

    It seems to me an alternative version of "The exorcist"

  • @longwaydown6959
    @longwaydown6959 4 месяца назад

    If it is real, which I'm a very open minded individual, but a skeptic before all else, maybe it was a form of what s9me define as poltergeist activity? There is the belief that activity like that, is caused by the unconscious manifestation of otherworldly phenomenon due to the emotions and feelings of the the manifester. We see examples that seem to center around those with a religious or spiritual predilection and children most often. The idea is that those who are already inclined to beleieve in paranormal phenomenon, eill then subconsciously feed into the phenomenon, with children being most susceptible to this due to them being more open to belief and less than rational explanations for things.
    Maybe, after the death of Don's grandfather, a man who he feared and was abused by, he was afraid that death wasn't the end of it. Maybe the water he supposedly conjured was as a result of his trauma manifesting itself, literally and metaphorically slowly drowning him in it.
    It could be that religious intervention seemed to be effective, because Dom believed it would be, being a Man open to faith as well.
    This is my two cents on the matter. I don't really beleieve in events taking place when there is only anecdotal evidence to support them, but it is something that such a wide range of rather disconnected individuals could attest to witnessing such phenomenon first hand.
    Would've been fascinating if Don could have been studied.

  • @Robhalifax
    @Robhalifax 3 месяца назад

    I think chief Roberts nailed it.

  • @Noisemansoundinsect
    @Noisemansoundinsect 4 месяца назад +1

    Double Donald Decker

  • @tammiebailey9729
    @tammiebailey9729 4 месяца назад +6

    It was his shadow. He manifested his trauma It was trying to get his attention to heal it

    • @curiousdark
      @curiousdark  4 месяца назад +1

      Interesting theory Tammi, thanks for sharing 😊

    • @bertkilborne6464
      @bertkilborne6464 4 месяца назад

      It seems like the sky is the limit with this type of stuff

  • @joevonwolfenstein21
    @joevonwolfenstein21 3 месяца назад

    Oh, undoubtedly this, if viable, was metaphysical in nature. The evil one, the "dev-grool", wants to terrorize people and uses the unwitting as pawns and the willing as tools but would rather his presents be doubted with skeptical belief being dubious. I one said to an authority on evil that Jesus rebuked the nay sayers who said : "Look! He casts out daemons by Beelzebub!" Where then Jesus retorted : Santan does not cast out Satan, or his kingdom would not stand." This statement, inter alia, bespeaks unto the kingdom of hell stands as does the Kingdom of Heaven.

  • @bartstewart8644
    @bartstewart8644 4 месяца назад +5

    I don't agree that lack of photography strengthens the case. Somebody would have hauled out a camera. I don't hold with the "ice dam" theory. But there is another possibility. Nine people are not a huge number. They could have conspired for the purpose of promoting their religion. You said most of the clergy in town didn't get involved, only one evangelical minister. They may have considered this a harmless lie for the greater good of showing that their religion was powerful.

    • @Lauria2875
      @Lauria2875 4 месяца назад +6

      It was 1983. Cameras were expensive and, compared to smart phones, difficult and clunky to use. people didn't carry them around in their back pockets, or haul them out for every little thing.

    • @bartstewart8644
      @bartstewart8644 4 месяца назад +3

      @@Lauria2875 Yeah but these were cops and jail houses and so forth. They took pictures for evidence. Also it went on for kind of a long time. I also find it odd that of all the tales of the paranormal this is the only time one like this has ever been reported.

    • @Lauria2875
      @Lauria2875 4 месяца назад +1

      @@bartstewart8644 true, I was thinking more of the part when he was out on leave.

    • @AirflowToTheTurbo
      @AirflowToTheTurbo 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@Lauria2875 That's just not true. Of course, there were no smart phones, but disposable cameras cost $5 to $10 at every corner store in the early 80s. I had many at that time. They were everywhere. The film took about 30 photos. And they were lighter than a smart phone. You took them to the drug store and the photos were developed overnight. No photos makes this story just another vaguely spooky story with zero evidence.

    • @Lauria2875
      @Lauria2875 4 месяца назад +1

      @@AirflowToTheTurbo I lived through the eighties, I know what they were like. I know what the cameras were like.
      Disposable cameras were NOT at every corner store where I lived (there were no corner stores) and the only pharmacy that took film mailed it in to be developed along with the desposable cameras. Unless they were the kind you mailed in yourself. It was also almost an hours drive away into the next COUNTY. As were the nearest McDonald's, movie theater, drs office and Wal-Mart when they came to being.
      Cameras were a luxury and a lot of the people I knew (including us) who had one, also had a shoebox full of film they couldn't afford to have developed.

  • @iancarlson-w8m
    @iancarlson-w8m 3 месяца назад

    I've been there, the town sucks as much as any other rustbelt crap-town. There's nothing interesting historically or currently....

  • @harpersmythe658
    @harpersmythe658 4 месяца назад +55

    *Sclerosis* of the liver? I think you mean *cirrhosis* 😊

    • @johnoneill7947
      @johnoneill7947 4 месяца назад +17

      Drunk pronunciation

    • @RH-xs8gz
      @RH-xs8gz 4 месяца назад +20

      There is a condition called tuberous sclerosis complex that causes non-cancerous tumors to grow on major organs like the brain and the liver. Maybe that’s what they mean? 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @BuddyLee23
      @BuddyLee23 4 месяца назад +16

      Perhaps the accent makes it sound different to someone without the accent?

    • @daspoohmunich7235
      @daspoohmunich7235 4 месяца назад +7

      classic case of Sclerosis of the liver

    • @Lame.....
      @Lame..... 4 месяца назад +8

      That is also a correct term for cirrhosis..... Get educated.

  • @richardwadd9769
    @richardwadd9769 4 месяца назад +1

    If the chief wanted to wash his hands of the whole incident he could have just held his hands out in the living room while it was raining on him.

  • @CypressJuice
    @CypressJuice 4 месяца назад +4

    A "real" story...

  • @johnnyparker9928
    @johnnyparker9928 4 месяца назад

    😮

  • @sallylauper8222
    @sallylauper8222 3 месяца назад +2

    I'll go to church when it rains sideways.

    • @PapaBear-k4k
      @PapaBear-k4k 3 месяца назад +1

      Come to Arizona during the monsoons. I'll save you a seat 😊

  • @BuddyLee23
    @BuddyLee23 4 месяца назад +2

    Would witnessing this incident reasonably prompt a nonbeliever to become a Christian? 🤔
    I am honestly curious how persuasive (or not) this dark event would be for most people…

    • @falconquest2068
      @falconquest2068 4 месяца назад +10

      Not at all. It would lead me to think that there are forces in our universe that we are yet to understand. I don't see that Christianity per se has anything to do with it.

    • @CypressJuice
      @CypressJuice 4 месяца назад +6

      Probably the exact opposite

    • @lilyw.719
      @lilyw.719 4 месяца назад +1

      Developing my own demonic poltergeist certainly converted me - from atheism - and made me a devout Catholic overnight.

  • @AndrewStinsonAPU
    @AndrewStinsonAPU 4 месяца назад +1

    These would be decent videos if the images actually matched the dialogue.

    • @SolarEclips86
      @SolarEclips86 4 месяца назад +1

      No one is holding you at gun point to watch it so just move on.

    • @AndrewStinsonAPU
      @AndrewStinsonAPU 4 месяца назад

      @@SolarEclips86 So whatever you do, absolutely do not offer any sort of criticism on anything ever in life or @SolarGoon will tell you to move on. I have no doubt that you voted for Biden.

  • @TA-xj5we
    @TA-xj5we 4 месяца назад +2

    👍🐿😎

  • @Fido-vm9zi
    @Fido-vm9zi 4 месяца назад

    Skeptical of some things, but I know there are truths coming to us from "the unknown". Awareness is the first step to controlling "things" that want to become real.

  • @ec9833
    @ec9833 4 месяца назад +2

    Plot twist: every evil thing that calms at Christianity, is actually pleased and quelled to know that a religion, with so much blood on its hands, so many churches that lead through fear & so many Christians so absolutely opposite anything Jesus taught, is that much more solidified in believers.

  • @kevinthomas7259
    @kevinthomas7259 3 месяца назад

    Woohoo Stroudsburg LoL 🤣🤣

  • @arielhamm-flores6893
    @arielhamm-flores6893 4 месяца назад +1

    also were it snows most houses are ready for snow there built diffrent that couldent happen

  • @-VOR
    @-VOR 2 месяца назад

    21:55 😂 "where do we start"...i guess you start by offering logical fallacies? Lol you can't even see the irony in you scoffing at skeptics, so I'll spoon feed you some critical thinking huh? Believing in a thing by default, is the antithesis of being open minded.

  • @GregoryHawkins-d2p
    @GregoryHawkins-d2p 4 месяца назад

    Stop calling people by their last names. Call them by their firsts names.

    • @p.e.p2368
      @p.e.p2368 4 месяца назад +2

      Lol!!! I'm sure he'll get right on that ll😂 Especially because you asked so nicely🙄

    • @void________
      @void________ 3 месяца назад

      Why??

  • @lildad798
    @lildad798 3 месяца назад +1

    Too dragged out n boring for me sorry.

  • @loveforeignaccents
    @loveforeignaccents 4 месяца назад +3

    Not into the paranormal. Catch ya next time. Have a great weekend!!

    • @Mechanomics
      @Mechanomics 4 месяца назад +7

      Who asked?

    • @loveforeignaccents
      @loveforeignaccents 4 месяца назад +6

      @@Mechanomics It's called a comment section, where people can post/leave their comments. Geez, you would think it's a Monday morning and not the start to the weekend with your attitude. Lighten up and try to enjoy life!

    • @steviewolfeofficial
      @steviewolfeofficial 4 месяца назад +3

      Why do you not talk like any normal human being would.

    • @6Haunted-Days
      @6Haunted-Days 4 месяца назад

      @@loveforeignaccentsyou seem….so entitled snd unaware that it’s 2024….the majority of those with jobs DO NOT WORK m-f! So your sad& silly “it’s the weekend but you got a case of the mondays” is awful pointless. For all you know he’s in the middle of a 10 day period of no days off. Or getting off a 12hr shift and has to go back in the morning. Ya get it now? Good grief…..guess you’re 70 & not with modern life. 🙄😂

    • @ashley4372
      @ashley4372 4 месяца назад +2

      yeah i prefer the more earthly yet bizzare kind of stuff, this one was pretty good but I prefer the more crimey types.

  • @jotun.616
    @jotun.616 2 месяца назад

    If weve hit the point where lack of evidence supports some bullshit then you are beyond help. You should do a vid on confirmation bias lol

  • @kaptainkrunch4106
    @kaptainkrunch4106 4 месяца назад +2

    Borrrriiinnnnggggg!!!!!

    • @Percept2024
      @Percept2024 4 месяца назад +6

      Yes , you are boring "kaptainkrunch"

    • @cleew8762
      @cleew8762 4 месяца назад +1

      I agree and I’m not starting over. I laughed too loud over the sclerosis of the liver debate.

  • @davethomasatemyhamster
    @davethomasatemyhamster 4 месяца назад +1

    Why did nobody film the event??? I smell a rat

    • @void________
      @void________ 3 месяца назад

      This was the early 80s. Ppl didn't just have camera equipment laying around. And the guy this happened to was on leave from jail or in jail so there was no camera to film and no cell phones.