The trouble with this idea of treating a man the way God sees him despite his present behavior is that historically many women take this to mean, "if you love a man well you can change a man". Having the ability to influence someone and having the ability to change someone are not the same. There's a line between the two that's not always easy to perceive.
I definitely agree. The line becomes nonexistent if you love that man(family member, romantic partner, etc.). Most women and people in general are not firm enough in their own personal boundaries to execute this concept without murking the waters. I have experienced this with both family & romantic relationships. As you learn the word "no" AND stick to it, people begin to resent you for no longer having access fulltime to you and your resources. If you're not comfortable being alone, this is where people fold and return to their old ways. This requires much discernment, grace, and tons of time in the secret place.
I see your point and I think that what is missing is the concept that changing people is never anyone’s responsibility because it puts you in the place of being God. One plants one water but only God can give the increase. Therefore, why we should treat people in general how God does. God using you as the vessel with your actions to show his love. That same love can soften the heart of others and influence change.
Amen!! One is done in faith and fueled by our relationship with Jesus and the other is done according to our own ideas and strength and what we want our relationship to be.
Yes! “Just because a man acts emotionally dead, don’t treat him emotionally dead,” and treat him as the Lord sees him. We’re all works in progress and I’m thankful my husband loves me beyond who I am, as I strive to do the same ❤”Don’t meet him with frustration…treat him as the man God called him to be”
Came with the revelation I needed to hear in the first 2 minutes! Y'all be saying what needs to be said , according to the Word of God ❤ Thank you God and thank you!!!
I’m really good at loving people well in general ( a blessing from the Lord) but I also feel that you do have to be wise in this. Make sure that the man/person you apply this to is submitted to God. As women, we can not change anyone. But God has all the power to change each and every one of our hearts.
Whoaaa. How Jackie talks about leadership and the woman has the responsibility to respond to it, reminds me of the other poddy that just came out about Sarai & Abram/Adam and Eve. Where, the woman had an idea/strategy and the man followed. That ain't iiiiiiit. God's family model ain't sexist, it safeguards us coz God made it so the man is the covering of the family eeeeee. I'm having a 🤯 moment over here!!!
The way i see it, in the way the lord created men and women, we were not meant to be sexually compatible (by that i mean identical in the way we express or experience sexuality). Marriage is a picture of the Gospel. The man is to image christ and the woman to image the bride (the church). Christ loves us before we ever love him or the things pertaining to him. He invites the bride into relation with him and we become one body with him. In marital terms men often pursue before the woman pursues. If God gave us sexual compatibility from the beginning. We would never grow in love for each other, or in humility, or in submission to one another.
Sometimes we need to just crumble all the emotional junk which a lot of it boils down to be sin and just get down to the nitty gritty and obey the Scriptures. They say do not deprive one another!!
So whats there to say when men want to be pursued as much as they pursue/initiate. Quite possibly reflective of their overall leadership and initiative (or lack thereof). No, he is NEVER denied.
A MAN LOVES. YOU CAN'T PUT IT ON THE WOMEN WHEN YOU ARE FRUSTRATING HER! A MAN PROBLEM IS When HE CAN'T LOVE HIS WIFE RIGHT. YOU WILL LOOSE A LOT AS A MAN BECAUSE YOU ARE COMING AGAINST GOD'S RULE OF LOVE OVER YOUR WOMAN.
I would never treat a man in a way that God would see him/ treat him, if he expresses emotional unavailability towards me. I will always yield to what he expresses towards me. Love you guys 💕💕
This is the wrong mindset to have. Reciprocating the emotional unavailability will not benefit you at the end. You have to take the challenge and act in love. If all else fails you at least know it wasn’t you.
For context, when Preston made that comment, he wasn't talking about treating just any man in that way, he was speaking of treating your husband in the way that God sees him. Reciprocating emotional unavailability to your husband will prove bitterly counterintuitive (as well as ungodly) and likely won't get him to fix his act, especially not in the long term😢
@@Atypical82 you clearly don't read your Bible either because the husband is Jesus and the wife is the church. Jesus loved us first and sacrificed himself for us, and only after that did we love him back. That's why the bible also says husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church, and gave himself up for her.
The trouble with this idea of treating a man the way God sees him despite his present behavior is that historically many women take this to mean, "if you love a man well you can change a man". Having the ability to influence someone and having the ability to change someone are not the same. There's a line between the two that's not always easy to perceive.
I definitely agree. The line becomes nonexistent if you love that man(family member, romantic partner, etc.). Most women and people in general are not firm enough in their own personal boundaries to execute this concept without murking the waters. I have experienced this with both family & romantic relationships. As you learn the word "no" AND stick to it, people begin to resent you for no longer having access fulltime to you and your resources. If you're not comfortable being alone, this is where people fold and return to their old ways. This requires much discernment, grace, and tons of time in the secret place.
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I see your point and I think that what is missing is the concept that changing people is never anyone’s responsibility because it puts you in the place of being God. One plants one water but only God can give the increase. Therefore, why we should treat people in general how God does. God using you as the vessel with your actions to show his love. That same love can soften the heart of others and influence change.
@@jmgreen157beautifully written!
Amen!! One is done in faith and fueled by our relationship with Jesus and the other is done according to our own ideas and strength and what we want our relationship to be.
"Do I need healing or do I need humility" - was so on point!
Yes! “Just because a man acts emotionally dead, don’t treat him emotionally dead,” and treat him as the Lord sees him. We’re all works in progress and I’m thankful my husband loves me beyond who I am, as I strive to do the same ❤”Don’t meet him with frustration…treat him as the man God called him to be”
I agree 💯 brothers and sisters. This is a good topic we all need to hear this men and women.
Came with the revelation I needed to hear in the first 2 minutes! Y'all be saying what needs to be said ,
according to the Word of God ❤ Thank you God and thank you!!!
I’m really good at loving people well in general ( a blessing from the Lord) but I also feel that you do have to be wise in this. Make sure that the man/person you apply this to is submitted to God. As women, we can not change anyone. But God has all the power to change each and every one of our hearts.
Whoaaa. How Jackie talks about leadership and the woman has the responsibility to respond to it, reminds me of the other poddy that just came out about Sarai & Abram/Adam and Eve. Where, the woman had an idea/strategy and the man followed. That ain't iiiiiiit. God's family model ain't sexist, it safeguards us coz God made it so the man is the covering of the family eeeeee. I'm having a 🤯 moment over here!!!
this was so good!! thanks for sharing !
3:02 she's talking that talk 👏🏼 Facts
The way i see it, in the way the lord created men and women, we were not meant to be sexually compatible (by that i mean identical in the way we express or experience sexuality).
Marriage is a picture of the Gospel. The man is to image christ and the woman to image the bride (the church).
Christ loves us before we ever love him or the things pertaining to him. He invites the bride into relation with him and we become one body with him. In marital terms men often pursue before the woman pursues.
If God gave us sexual compatibility from the beginning. We would never grow in love for each other, or in humility, or in submission to one another.
Hmmm I like the point you made here. Definitely something to think on
What does humility look like in this regard?
“Healing and humility can go a long way.” Come on here with this #Arby’s short! 😂🗣️
This is such a great clip! Really good!
0:11 yes come on hat 🤣🙏🏽
Sometimes we need to just crumble all the emotional junk which a lot of it boils down to be sin and just get down to the nitty gritty and obey the Scriptures. They say do not deprive one another!!
So whats there to say when men want to be pursued as much as they pursue/initiate. Quite possibly reflective of their overall leadership and initiative (or lack thereof). No, he is NEVER denied.
Jackieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
That’s good!❤ I will try this.
That’s good Jackie #truth
2:43 👏🏼👏🏼
Hallelujah
I think everything depends on HOW the man approaches you… if he approaches me respectful, he will get the same energy.. very simple
This is gooooood ☝️☝️☝️🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾❤️❤️❤️
Wow! This is good! 🙌
Let's analyse!!! I agree and disagree
A MAN LOVES. YOU CAN'T PUT IT ON THE WOMEN WHEN YOU ARE FRUSTRATING HER! A MAN PROBLEM IS When HE CAN'T LOVE HIS WIFE RIGHT. YOU WILL LOOSE A LOT AS A MAN BECAUSE YOU ARE COMING AGAINST GOD'S RULE OF LOVE OVER YOUR WOMAN.
I would never treat a man in a way that God would see him/ treat him, if he expresses emotional unavailability towards me. I will always yield to what he expresses towards me. Love you guys 💕💕
This
This is the wrong mindset to have. Reciprocating the emotional unavailability will not benefit you at the end. You have to take the challenge and act in love. If all else fails you at least know it wasn’t you.
For context, when Preston made that comment, he wasn't talking about treating just any man in that way, he was speaking of treating your husband in the way that God sees him. Reciprocating emotional unavailability to your husband will prove bitterly counterintuitive (as well as ungodly) and likely won't get him to fix his act, especially not in the long term😢
This is unbiblical for a believing wife.
@@Atypical82 you clearly don't read your Bible either because the husband is Jesus and the wife is the church. Jesus loved us first and sacrificed himself for us, and only after that did we love him back. That's why the bible also says husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church, and gave himself up for her.
Am I’m first ????? 🫶🏽🥲