He also said he would retire if he Jimmy Clausen wasn’t a success in the NFL. Mel Kuiper is nothing but a guy who pushes ratings on ESPN for the draft.
It’s weird honestly maybe unless their a 5 star before they just started one year a left if they showed nothing then just got hot for one year it’s kinda iffy
It’s the bears system and not having consistent good coaching his first head coach was mark tressman and he sat behind Mike Glennon for Pete sake not to mention multiple offensive coordinators
The NFL stands for Not For Long. If you are drafted as a top 5 pick, you are expected to succeed. If you are still struggling in year 4 they're going to get rid of you.
Mike crane I see that you’re a Mitbumski she male fan,are you really that butt hurt because you’re boy friend is on the way out of the nfl what a loser the both of you shut up.
Exactly Bitchell brings the whole team down, look up the stories he even hurt the PR department bc he was so stupid they couldn’t tell if he understood what they were telling him to say
@@mikalgangmark he was a baller the second he got drafted how are you going to sit here and pretend that Russel wasn’t good when he beat the qb Seahawks spend their money on for the starting job and the beat Patriots in the the clutch? Seahawks with Carrol LOB and beast mode went 7-9 for 2 years in the row and became Super Bowl contenders when Russel got here.
They need to stop listening to nfl draft “analysts” when it comes to evaluating quarterbacks and stop being swayed by the notion of the classic quarterback. Take a guy that you can build an offense around and mentor into the leader of your team. Stop trying to turn dudes with certain skills into something they are not and definitely stop plugging these young kids into spots and expecting them not to struggle or have growing pains. Quarterbacks are a hit or miss prospect. A lot of the great ones aren’t even first rounders. I also love listening to how wrong Mel Kiper is on his draft analysis because later those same guys he trashes end up leading the league. And also some of his knocks on certain players about them being “slight of build” are soooo dumb especially when you actually look at the guy and see he’s basically talking out his ass. Just stop listening to these dumbass analysts they don’t have a crystal ball to show where a person will end up. I mean look how many ppl swore up and down Lamar Jackson should have been a wide receiver or running back. Now ain’t that a bitch!
Ron he’s a known name so he gets work but the guys draft analysis always stinks. And he always finds a way to shit on guys without doing even a bit of research to back up what he’s saying. He’s a joke, but every year they trot him out to tell us how great certain guys will be and he’s always BAD.
StainSquad yep and I heard someone giving him shit for her being his manager when she’s the one who’s given him the work ethic he’s had. The reason he’s gotten so good is her pushing him. And look where he’s at now. Thank god for people with good sense in his life. The kid is a stud.
At the end of the day he should’ve never been mentioned with Watson coming out, and Mahomes shot pass everybody so that will be his legacy. The guy who was drafted way to high
Yeah. You can't really blame him for being drafted so high and having all the expectations heaped on him. I still believe he has all the tools one would want in a QB. He just needs a chance to be with a stable franchise where he can sit and learn for a few years.
@Jimmy Nance god I wish Watson got a better coach and front office. His ability to throw 4 defenders off of him and still make an accurate 25 yard pass is damn beautiful to watch
@@austinpchs the problem is leaf had reasonable expectations at the time while trubisky wasn't even a first round talent but still had those high expectations
you guys are so wrong and you are missing the WHOLE point of what the video was about......HE DIDNT GET DEVELOPED AT ALL......same with Dwayne Haskins....they have talent but ANY nfl team needs to help the player (AND YOU SHOULD SIT THEM A YEAR LIKE CHEIFS DID WITH MAHOMES) Cam newton only started one year at Aulbun and was great in nfl... again coaching..... brad jonshon only started one year and he won a super bowl with bucks....AGAIN Coaching.. hell tom brady only started all 98 year and he shard time in sr year with anohter QB, but he SAT and leard from a great coach....... all of you fools who are down playing these players saying they are bust are just dumb and missed the point of the video you are replying to......sure SOME players will be bad weather they have good coaching or not, they just dont want to do the work or care to.... Development matters.....making a scheam to your talent matters.........you dont force a Square peg into round hole you dumb dumbs
Trubisky seems like a good guy and a hard worker so I can see him just being a backup for a little bit and getting better than having a career resurgence
@@mookie5972 There are plenty of QB's who thrive in college but suck in the NFL. Just look at guys like Matt Leinart, Graham Harrell, Brady Quinn, Jimmy Clausen, and CoIt Brennan. All of those guys are considered some of the best college QB's this century but but did not have any success in the NFL. It actually is a shot in the dark if these guys can adjust.
@@justinalley3399 Jordan Howard hasn’t had a career since we stopped playing losing football. He STILL has the most negative or no gain cargoes since Howard came into the league!! That means 25-30 runs a game in hopes he breaks one to make it look like he had a great average...the league and now even the Dolphins show you how much they thought about him 😆 another bum player from Pace
Blame the McKasky’s.....the owners absolutely refuse to spend the money for a true winner. Can’t blame even the GM if the owners won’t put the money into the team as nothing more then a hobby. When ownership treats it like that they’ll never put a true winner on the field.
Sports Fan All Day as a Lifelong die hard Bears fan I 100% totally agree!!! The owners need to sell and sell NOW or start spending damn money. The Bears won 46-10 in Super Bowl XX against the Patriots. What have they done since? What have the Patriots done since? Proof what ownership can do if they’re actually willing to spend money and treat an NFL franchise as something more then a damn hobby!!!
If you really want to know how Mitch went second overall do some research on Mel kipper, he takes pay from agents to push prospects to certain positions in the draft. You should definitely do a video on it. The information is out there !!!
Mitch is a good guy, and I feel for him because the Bears dramatically overvalued him and put a ton of unfair pressure on him. He just didn’t have the ability to be a star qb and live up to the draft status.
Darryl Wilson Detroit killed Detroit. They’ll blow 4th quarter leads to anyone and everyone. Remember Matt Flynn? Detroit was the only team to lose 4 consecutive games while holding a double digit lead. Almost everyone looks great against the Lions
Kiper was so completely wrong about Watson and Mahomes that he should have lost his job....and he was so completely wrong about trubisky that his draft analysis should never be relied upon ever again
“Trubisky was placed in as good of a situation as Mahomes” absolutely not🤣 Mahomes had a year to sit behind Alex Smith a veteran. Trub had 4 games to sot behind Mike Glennon. Mahomes had Kelce, Hill, Watkins, and a really good oline. Trubiskys best weapon was Allen Robinson and pretty much no one else. And a horrible oline.
You can try and spin it anyway you want, bottom line is Trubisky is not as good of a player as Mahommes or Watson ...Either of these QB's will instantly improve the Bears as a team and make their teammates better... Trubisky would not improve the Chiefs or the Texans....
Well he fixed it some with Mack and the last 2 drafts with limited picks. I’m guessing he is letting others do it now bc for first 3yrs he was the worst GM in football history
This is evidence that you dont understand statistics, probabilities, small sample sizes, and the situation Trubisky was put in. Last year the bears lead the league in drop passes, a bottom 5 o lime and bottom five run game, no blocking tight ends, and Nagy's system doesnt fit trubisky.
@@davidsimmons3391 dude... No it isnt. All I am saying is that there is no proof that Mitchell Trubisky had less potential that Deshaun Watson. If you knew satistics you would understand that you can't determine a cause a effect relationship from an observational study, because of all the confounding variables. You would need to do an experiment to determine that Mitchell Trubisky had less potential than Deshaun Watson. So pretty much, it is impossible to determine who had more potential, because of the confounding variables. You could say that you THINK Watson's career is turning out better because he had more potential, but you can not 100% say that, because there was never an experiment blocking out the other possible explanatory variables. Each quarterback was givon drastically different situations with many different explanatory variables determining the response variable.
@@davidsimmons3391 don't argue with him he doesn't know football. Because if you watch and look at the numbers Deshaun had a higher ceiling coming out of college.
I could see why you say he is overrated but my option is that he has what he needs the rights Wr core and coach like if he went to the pats and would be with Bill Belicheck and i think that we could see maybe the next TB12
Jesse Lamprea ok I know but I am just saying that Tom and Mich are almost the same both were bad and had bad years but if Bill can fix Tom I think that he can fix Mich
Mitch will be good, on someone else’s team. The bears ruined him by trading up to take him at No. 2 and then the two guys picked below him killing it the way they are. He would’ve been better off watching behind a journeyman started like Fitz or Teddy for 1.5 seasons to take pressure off. Remember that Pace fell in love with Mitch when he saw his regular old good Toyota Camry. This is the Bears GM. Nuff said.
You don't have the *LUXURY* of waiting for 2nf overall picks to *FIND THEMSELVES*, not like the old days, when Aaron Rodgers *sat* while Favre, got the old. You have to *Either* pay them, or cut-em loose. It's his fault he didn't take ownership of the position.
It was a last-minute decision. Even John Fox said that he didn't know they were taking trubisky until a couple of hours before the draft. There was no thought or collaboration that went into the selection of it Mitch. It was all Pace.
With Big Ben’s retirement and all of the needs on my Steelers, I think they should give MT a 2 year contract and draft a QB next year. Fix both lines, corner, ILB ect
Trubisky failed in the NFL because he was drafted way too high for what his value was (traded up one spot too when no one was taking him there), so had too much expectation...but mainly because he was quarterback for the Chicago Bears. Damn it fucking sucks to be a Bears fan
Watching that draft I was laughing my ass off😂 I was like Trubisky?? Am I missing something here?? How could you look at what Watson did in college vs Bama and pick Trubumski?
In the end John fox said it himself * I didn't know we were gonna take Mitch until that morning of the draft, we were intended to take Jamal Adams* Ryan Pace wanted him & drafted him
Trubisky wasn't even good in College. And he got drafted before an Athletic Beast like Mahomes and a former National Champion Deshaun Watson. Still don't get it.
Hate to say it but, politics. Alot of nfl scouts are still stuck on the “pocket qb”. Sounds really stupid ik but it’s the reality... why you think they wanted lamar jackson to change positions? They genuinely thought he wasn’t built for next level
I honestly think they didn't want a black qb when you think about it. Like we even passed on Cam Newton and he would be better in the long run. But dang
I enjoy your content quite a bit in my off time, but I like Zach shamlers (strong opinion sports) take on this. Mitch is an at best average quarterback with a few good weapons; Allen Robinson, Tarik Cohen and an at least average offensive line. Most mock drafts of the 2017 draft had dashaun Watson higher anyways and he was a much more complete quarterback than any one coming out of the class out the bat (biased I am a Texans fan after all). Mitch I would say is never gonna be a franchise quarterback but maybe a quality backup on a team with good support
When the Bears drafted Trubisky, I thought he would be decent. He wasn't going to be as good as Deshaun Watson or Patrick Mahomes, but he would be enough to alleviate the suffering of trying to watch Jay Cutler try in vain to throw a football, and hopefully propel the Bears at least into the playoffs again. He has shown promise on multiple occasions, and I thought that getting Matt Nagy, a renowned quarterback coach, would help him find the footing he needs. That didn't happen. Trubisky consistently overthrows his targets and he has issues throwing long passes, meaning he really doesn't get a lot of passing yards. I think that the Bears ought to keep him as a backup this year, and then let him go and find a new quarterback to take his place or just let Foles keep the starter job if he proves himself enough. Foles has done well in both of the games he started, despite losing one of those games, and I would argue that he was decent back in Jacksonville but did not have the team surrounding him to really make him shine. A bit like Matt Stafford and the Lions, really. With the Bears, he has a decent offense and a solid defense to support him, and I think he'll do well. Also, on a closing note, fuck Ryan Pace we need to fire him and not moving Kyle Long to left tackle and keeping him on the team was one of the stupidest decisions ever made. I rest my case.
Honestly, Trubisky is a great QB but I think if he had more offensive threats, he would have a better career. When he is a free agent, he NEEDS to leave Chicago.
Fr. Idk why everyone hates on him he’s honestly pretty good. Maybe not 2nd pick good but he’s still good. he took a team that was on a big losing streak and turned that into playoffs. Like seriously how can you not see he has talent🤦🏽♂️
The only reason mitch trubisky failed because the offense o line have a hard time protecting him, trubisky can't do anything right in the offense especially when he literally can't read defense on the field, the bears shouldn't never drafted trubisky the first place, ryan pace should be fired for drafted him back from 2017.
Ive studied trubisky being a bears fan . he has never had a deandre hopkins or a tyreek hill or travis kelce. Like mahomes n watson have. His coaching in chicago has been piss poor.
Brah im a bears fan and watched a ton of college football i had mitch as my 4th qb on the board behind Watson kiezer mahomes. I would of taken Watson at 2 no doubt and I think the bears will always regret not getting Watson. with hindsight i would of love to get mahomes but I didn't see him being this good from his college career
Fair enough. You didn't see enough from Mahomes to rank him higher. But you did see enough of trubisky to know that he wasn't the number 2 overall draft pick
Double doink, made Nagy want kick the guy out of Chicago. Jordan Howard is the same why did this guy get sent to Philadelphia? The guy was the same as Jordan Howard.
He’s throw better on the run, he lacks touch, he’s terrible at reacting to blitzes, needs work at adjusting things at the line and over all he needs to switch positions. Maybe try being the 8th TE on the Roster
Except for Watson, the Texans are a disaster. He is actually having another monster season despite the atrocious offensive line and the absence of Hopkins. PFF has him ranked as the #4 QB in the NFL through week 8. Put him on the Chiefs or other top team and he would be as good as anyone.
The Bears definitely fumbled Trubisky! Seems like they dummied him down to "Protect" their investment. Just look at his play style from his second year to his third, totally different! They were 2-0 when they benched him, we have 0-3 teams and nobody gets benched smh. They were losing bad in that Falcons game but you have to let young QB's play through adversity..
Brandon Hutsler He went from 5-11 to 12-4 to 8-8..and was 2-0 starting out this season..that’s not to bad when you have QB’s like Sam Darnold and Daniel Jones still starting.
Brandon Hutsler It’s coaching..Nagy has to coach to the QB’s strength. Nagy isn’t doing this..Foles fights right into Nagy’s scheme because he already coached him in the past. Lamar, Mahomes, Watson, Burrow are all being tailored to their strengths. Nagy is actually coaching backwards lol
If the bears made the playoffs last year, Trubisky is probably still the starter. He is by no means a bad qb and he is an improvement over the likes of jay cutler and Rex grossman.
Yeah I honestly think the bears have been the worst with QBs, even compared to other teams that have lacked franchise QBs: Jets: Joe Namath Browns: Otto Graham, Bernie Kozar Vikings: Fran Tarkenton, Brett Favre Lions: Matthew Stafford Cardinals: Kurt Warner, Carson Palmer Bengals: Boomer Esiason Rams: Kurt Warner Bills: Jim Kelly Maybe the only other teams you can argue are worse are the Bucs and the Jags, but the Bucs now have Brady and the Jags are nearly 80 years younger than the bears, so the bears have had much more time to find a QB comparatively.
The front office rarely put pieces around them to succeed and the fans complain because they compare them to the Packers QBs and believe that type of play is standard.
If Mitch was a 2nd or early 3rd round pick, he could have developed without the pressure of being the player traded up and past Mahomes. Chicago rushed him and Nagy isn't the QB whisperer.
@@zakariaosman2384 Okay, so Mahomes had a really good QB to sit behind in Alex Smith, Mahomes even said that a lot of what he learned came from him. He also had a really good coaching staff in Kansas City, and an already really good team
Trubisky shouldn’t have been drafted #2. He may have been a 1st round pick, but not number 2. We should’ve drafted Mahomes or Watson. A team that needed a QB at the time would be the Broncos who had the 20th pick and had no qb after Manning retiring the season before the 2017 season
Y’all gotta see the facts, Mitchell Trubisky was put in the worst position possible. He went through a lot of offensive coordinator changes, and he didn’t have any good quarterback to learn from. But for Patrick Mahomes, it was different. He has a goated coach, who is Andy Reid. And he had Alex Smith to learn behind. And also some great weapons, like Travis Kelce and tyreek hill. Not trying to bring any hate but you can’t blame this all on Trubisky
having watched Trubisky in college, I cannot understand why anyone thought he'd be a starting NFL QB. you can't just magically turn someone with the right physique into a skilled passer in the NFL.
Nagy had his pre 2017 nfl draft QB evaluations released he had Mahomes #1 Watson #2 & Trubisky #3 & Nagy did say week 1 in 2018 that Trubisky cant run his offense
Great video, Mike. As a long-suffering bears fan, it is PAINFUL to watch Mahomes and Watson play. However, eventually (I'm 45 yo; when I say "eventually", I mean AFTER I retire and am long dead) Bears fans will forget about all of this when we finally get that bona fide franchise QB (Hell, maybe even develop one - nah, we would need the following: ownership change, visionary football leadership, have a football-first front office instead of a bean-counter as the organization president, etc; that's right, WORLD PEACE will break out OR the sun will have eaten the earth eventually before that ever happens....) .... but your point is well made and, admittedly, the Bears had NO BUSINESS drafting Trubisky, let alone trading up for him (Pace should be fired - not just for this but for also consistently missing on his first round choices) . . Have no choice but to truly appreciate football artistry and enjoy watching Mahomes/Watson/etc. play (still cannot root for Rodgers, sorry) and appreciate the fact that there is no point in wishing to own and maintain a Bugatti Chiron with a Ford Taurus (2003) football organization and Model T football mindset . . . Trubisky WILL go on and succeed elsewhere (maybe he will take longer like Tannehill did in the "right" situation or become a solid backup or HELL, MAYBE even win a SB (!!!!)) - now THAT would be TRULY PAINFUL to watch but I would have no choice then but to WISH HIM THE VERY BEST . . .
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Let's not forget Kiper had concern about Julio Jones bc of "his hands" ✋😂
He right his hands r his weakness
He also said he would retire if he Jimmy Clausen wasn’t a success in the NFL. Mel Kuiper is nothing but a guy who pushes ratings on ESPN for the draft.
@supreme leader Hur dur Burn Loot Murder.
@@whyareyoulikethat7863 sounds American to me
How does Mel Kiper have a job?
I'm Glad the video started with him
Didn't he say if jimmy clausen didn't make it in the nfl he'd quit being a college analyst
@@jakemoores9641 yeah. He was capping HARD!!😂🇹🇹
@@adrianphilip8970 im just trying to say why are people still listening to him,i wonder what his take on jamarcus russell was?
Found a video according to him in 2 years of development russell would be john elway, oh and he thought johnny manziel was going to take over the nfl
Anybody with two eyes could clearly see Watson was a damn baller. His own coach called him MJ lol. Bears shot themselves in the foot with this one.
The bears will never draft a black qb top 5
Yea never understood why we did that. If we were going to get a QB why wouldn't we grab the one that just beat Alabama?
Foreal, Clemson that yr was insane with Watson
Why cant Da Bears ever find a decent QB :(
@@charlieb9667 because they're unwilling to take a black qb high in the draft
I think "one year starting in college" QBs are starting to become a red flag to me.
Ever since Mark Sanchez for me lol
Haskins was a one year starter too
It’s weird honestly maybe unless their a 5 star before they just started one year a left if they showed nothing then just got hot for one year it’s kinda iffy
Uh coughs in Kyler Murray
It’s the bears system and not having consistent good coaching his first head coach was mark tressman and he sat behind Mike Glennon for Pete sake not to mention multiple offensive coordinators
The NFL stands for Not For Long. If you are drafted as a top 5 pick, you are expected to succeed. If you are still struggling in year 4 they're going to get rid of you.
He's done fine. We have idiots fans and a terrible coach.
Mike crane I see that you’re a Mitbumski she male fan,are you really that butt hurt because you’re boy friend is on the way out of the nfl what a loser the both of you shut up.
If I had a nickel for every time some annoying asshole called the nfl not for long league I'd be rich..
@@mikeydoes No. He is a bum
@@mikeydoes Nagy is a great offensive coach but with a guy like trubisky he limits the play calling
He was only a starter in college for 1 season, that’s not enough time to be considered a NFL caliber QB!!
great quarterbacks make players around them better like russell wilson.
Wilson wasn’t that guy though when he got drafted, he developed into what you see today. Always easy to look smart talking in hindsight.
Exactly Bitchell brings the whole team down, look up the stories he even hurt the PR department bc he was so stupid they couldn’t tell if he understood what they were telling him to say
Exactly some qbs make the players great and some players make the qbs great
@@mikalgangmark he was a baller the second he got drafted how are you going to sit here and pretend that Russel wasn’t good when he beat the qb Seahawks spend their money on for the starting job and the beat Patriots in the the clutch? Seahawks with Carrol LOB and beast mode went 7-9 for 2 years in the row and became Super Bowl contenders when Russel got here.
@@arturzinurov4781 legion of boom. Russel was pick city his first few years but the defense was so dominant he didn’t need to be good
They need to stop listening to nfl draft “analysts” when it comes to evaluating quarterbacks and stop being swayed by the notion of the classic quarterback. Take a guy that you can build an offense around and mentor into the leader of your team. Stop trying to turn dudes with certain skills into something they are not and definitely stop plugging these young kids into spots and expecting them not to struggle or have growing pains. Quarterbacks are a hit or miss prospect. A lot of the great ones aren’t even first rounders.
I also love listening to how wrong Mel Kiper is on his draft analysis because later those same guys he trashes end up leading the league. And also some of his knocks on certain players about them being “slight of build” are soooo dumb especially when you actually look at the guy and see he’s basically talking out his ass. Just stop listening to these dumbass analysts they don’t have a crystal ball to show where a person will end up. I mean look how many ppl swore up and down Lamar Jackson should have been a wide receiver or running back. Now ain’t that a bitch!
Kiper is a perennial loser. How he stays employed for basically rolling dice-something anyone can do- is beyond me
Facts!
Ron he’s a known name so he gets work but the guys draft analysis always stinks. And he always finds a way to shit on guys without doing even a bit of research to back up what he’s saying. He’s a joke, but every year they trot him out to tell us how great certain guys will be and he’s always BAD.
StainSquad yep and I heard someone giving him shit for her being his manager when she’s the one who’s given him the work ethic he’s had. The reason he’s gotten so good is her pushing him. And look where he’s at now. Thank god for people with good sense in his life. The kid is a stud.
How many playoff games has Lamar won? Take it easy. Traditionally, the bears organization does a bad job of drafting QBs.
At the end of the day he should’ve never been mentioned with Watson coming out, and Mahomes shot pass everybody so that will be his legacy. The guy who was drafted way to high
So basically another Greg Oden
David Diz basically 😂
Yeah. You can't really blame him for being drafted so high and having all the expectations heaped on him. I still believe he has all the tools one would want in a QB. He just needs a chance to be with a stable franchise where he can sit and learn for a few years.
@Jimmy Nance god I wish Watson got a better coach and front office. His ability to throw 4 defenders off of him and still make an accurate 25 yard pass is damn beautiful to watch
@@robertmcphail1464he will have a warm seat sitting behind Josh Allen in Buffalo you called it.
I think the issue is that he should have just not gone that high.Especially compared to other QB in that draft
He should have never been drafted at all, he’s not a pro QB
@@TheSTRILLA disagreed
@@TheSTRILLA fax
I feel bad for the guy, but this was an all-time draft whiff. Hope Trubisky finds some success down the road
Ryan Leaf was THE all time draft whiff. But this is up there
@@austinpchs the problem is leaf had reasonable expectations at the time while trubisky wasn't even a first round talent but still had those high expectations
Same
Yea he had all that pressure to out perform desean watson he couldn't even do that in college
@plmoknty Damn, thats harsh!!!!!
I thought Mitch was a second round talent when they picked him. He should have not been picked that high to begin with.
4th round and then out of league in 4yrs
Agree completely, had he been drafted 2nd, 3rd round he’d be doing fine
They really took Mitch after one full season of starting in college 😂
Same thing happened with Jamarcus Russell. Look how he turned out.
@joseph mackey Dwayne Haskins, add him to the list as well smh
@joseph mackey Big facts smh
Same with Murray, Burrow..etc.
you guys are so wrong and you are missing the WHOLE point of what the video was about......HE DIDNT GET DEVELOPED AT ALL......same with Dwayne Haskins....they have talent but ANY nfl team needs to help the player (AND YOU SHOULD SIT THEM A YEAR LIKE CHEIFS DID WITH MAHOMES)
Cam newton only started one year at Aulbun and was great in nfl... again coaching.....
brad jonshon only started one year and he won a super bowl with bucks....AGAIN Coaching..
hell tom brady only started all 98 year and he shard time in sr year with anohter QB, but he SAT and leard from a great coach.......
all of you fools who are down playing these players saying they are bust are just dumb and missed the point of the video you are replying to......sure SOME players will be bad weather they have good coaching or not, they just dont want to do the work or care to....
Development matters.....making a scheam to your talent matters.........you dont force a Square peg into round hole you dumb dumbs
Trubisky seems like a good guy and a hard worker so I can see him just being a backup for a little bit and getting better than having a career resurgence
#6BURGH
We will get back to u in a few weeks
I’ve come to realize drafting a quarterback is a complete shot in the dark.
But in this case,the bears we’re just straight up dumb....Watson was clearly waaay better than trubiskey in college
@@mookie5972 There are plenty of QB's who thrive in college but suck in the NFL. Just look at guys like Matt Leinart, Graham Harrell, Brady Quinn, Jimmy Clausen, and CoIt Brennan. All of those guys are considered some of the best college QB's this century but but did not have any success in the NFL. It actually is a shot in the dark if these guys can adjust.
Sure but nothing is that dark if you draft Bitchell then your just blind and deaf
Just like Tom Brady... if u like him or not u have to admit his states are one of the best ever
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Mitch looks like a great qb. He looks the part. But he’s not. Simple as that.
Jimmy clausen, Mitch Trubisky, jake locker... pretty much any white qb that’s 6’2-6-5 220-230lbs will get on mel’s hot list.
rj graddy BINGO!!
Mitch doesnt work.cause he's a qb from a basketball school
To me he doesn't. He doesn't even have that look for me. He looks insecure and scared. Just look at his face in football games.
@@rjgraddy11 then explain Jamarcus Russell what color was he again??
Knew Watson was a beast since his freshman year first game
I remember watching Deshaun Watson when he was at Clemson
Julian Garcia you remember when him and Lamar played in 2016
i remember his first game good times
He's 0 and 4.
I agree it was pretty clear and as a Bears fan I was so excited when they went to the podium to announce his selection and then Pace had an aneurysm
Bears had Allen Robinson the 10th best WR, Jordan Howard and a good O-line for Trubisky. He will be 27 before next season yet is still developing.
Yeah developing into a bust
bears havent had a running game since they traded jordan howard
@@justinalley3399 why did they even trade him he wasn’t bad
@@ScaryAppul-114 Hands of stone that's why.
@@justinalley3399 Jordan Howard hasn’t had a career since we stopped playing losing football. He STILL has the most negative or no gain cargoes since Howard came into the league!! That means 25-30 runs a game in hopes he breaks one to make it look like he had a great average...the league and now even the Dolphins show you how much they thought about him 😆 another bum player from Pace
"Blame Ryan Pace!" - Flight "At the end of the day" MIke
The Bears Owner suck
Sports Fan All Day yep ever since George Halas died the Mcaskeys ruined the bears.
Blame the McKasky’s.....the owners absolutely refuse to spend the money for a true winner. Can’t blame even the GM if the owners won’t put the money into the team as nothing more then a hobby. When ownership treats it like that they’ll never put a true winner on the field.
Sports Fan All Day as a Lifelong die hard Bears fan I 100% totally agree!!! The owners need to sell and sell NOW or start spending damn money. The Bears won 46-10 in Super Bowl XX against the Patriots. What have they done since? What have the Patriots done since? Proof what ownership can do if they’re actually willing to spend money and treat an NFL franchise as something more then a damn hobby!!!
You know what I can live with that
I really hope he gets another chance. As Nick Foles is now proving Chicagos offensive problems run much deeper than the QB.
If you really want to know how Mitch went second overall do some research on Mel kipper, he takes pay from agents to push prospects to certain positions in the draft. You should definitely do a video on it. The information is out there !!!
Mitch is a good guy, and I feel for him because the Bears dramatically overvalued him and put a ton of unfair pressure on him. He just didn’t have the ability to be a star qb and live up to the draft status.
It’s even worse considering the fact he had 2 chances every year to pad his stats against the Lions.
He killed Detroit 2 weeks ago
Darryl Wilson
Detroit killed Detroit.
They’ll blow 4th quarter leads to anyone and everyone.
Remember Matt Flynn?
Detroit was the only team to lose 4 consecutive games while holding a double digit lead.
Almost everyone looks great against the Lions
He did pad his stats against the lions lol
@@AllDay3004 what days would those be...most over throws, most dropped INTs??
but I think hes 5-0 against the lions
here we are a month and a half later and the Bears offense got SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE with Mitch on the bench, and everyone is blaming Matt Nagy
Kiper was so completely wrong about Watson and Mahomes that he should have lost his job....and he was so completely wrong about trubisky that his draft analysis should never be relied upon ever again
Mehhh....Chicago can't develop or keep QB's. Never have, never will.
I'm sure he'll be better off when he's outta the Windy City.🤔
I am a bears fan and the hate being one because the qbs always suck
@@tylerbruno07 Bears always manage to present a decent defense though? 🤔
Yea it’s a defensive minded team since the 80’s
Watch, Mitch will do somethin for another team.
come to the rams. Fk Jared Soft Goff .
John, I agree. The Bears system always has been a bad team for qb's. I wish the Panthers could get Trubisky and bring him back to NC.
Tyler Bruno you’re right 💯...I feel bad for the Kid to be honest,he went where qbs die...🐻⬇️
“Trubisky was placed in as good of a situation as Mahomes” absolutely not🤣 Mahomes had a year to sit behind Alex Smith a veteran. Trub had 4 games to sot behind Mike Glennon. Mahomes had Kelce, Hill, Watkins, and a really good oline. Trubiskys best weapon was Allen Robinson and pretty much no one else. And a horrible oline.
You can try and spin it anyway you want, bottom line is Trubisky is not as good of a player as Mahommes or Watson ...Either of these QB's will instantly improve the Bears as a team and make their teammates better... Trubisky would not improve the Chiefs or the Texans....
@@itsnomyth144thsnd3 Put either of those qbs on the 2017 Bears and trust me both will fail
@@itsnomyth144thsnd3 if trubisky was put in a good system i believe he could be better than watson
@@samrey2135 Watson will always be better then Trubinsky
Fred Flintstone lmao the bears had the best defense in the nfl the very next season and Trub was still ass. Foh.
Means a lot to me (a bears fan) that you agree it’s Ryan Pace’s fault. And yet after all this, he still has his job smh.
Well he fixed it some with Mack and the last 2 drafts with limited picks. I’m guessing he is letting others do it now bc for first 3yrs he was the worst GM in football history
This is evidence that mel kiper doesn't know what he's talking about
He just views things differently lol everyone has an opinion derpderp
This is evidence that you dont understand statistics, probabilities, small sample sizes, and the situation Trubisky was put in. Last year the bears lead the league in drop passes, a bottom 5 o lime and bottom five run game, no blocking tight ends, and Nagy's system doesnt fit trubisky.
@@danielfinley2409 & it's obvious you don't know football
@@davidsimmons3391 dude... No it isnt. All I am saying is that there is no proof that Mitchell Trubisky had less potential that Deshaun Watson. If you knew satistics you would understand that you can't determine a cause a effect relationship from an observational study, because of all the confounding variables. You would need to do an experiment to determine that Mitchell Trubisky had less potential than Deshaun Watson. So pretty much, it is impossible to determine who had more potential, because of the confounding variables. You could say that you THINK Watson's career is turning out better because he had more potential, but you can not 100% say that, because there was never an experiment blocking out the other possible explanatory variables. Each quarterback was givon drastically different situations with many different explanatory variables determining the response variable.
@@davidsimmons3391 don't argue with him he doesn't know football. Because if you watch and look at the numbers Deshaun had a higher ceiling coming out of college.
When people say first but you just wanna watch
you still said first tho
Trubiskey was either way overrated I even call it before he was drafted
I could see why you say he is overrated but my option is that he has what he needs the rights Wr core and coach like if he went to the pats and would be with Bill Belicheck and i think that we could see maybe the next TB12
Kain dahurricane when will you people understand that not every white QB is Tom Brady.
Jesse Lamprea ok I know but I am just saying that Tom and Mich are almost the same both were bad and had bad years but if Bill can fix Tom I think that he can fix Mich
Kain dahurricane no one can fix Mitch. He’s just flat out bad
Jesse Lamprea no I think that he can be changed every can
mel kiper predictions < weathermen 2-month weather forecast. I didn't know who Trubisky was until the draft.
After that start Fields had against the Browns, it is clear, Nagy was the problem.
I'm surprised by how critical Kiper was of Watson and his success against Alabama, while seeming to give Trubisky a pass for his struggles.
When you realize Patrick Mahoames was picked in this draft this changes perspective man what a GOAT 🐐✊
Chiefs fan at 2017 draft "WTF we get a QB for all we need is a better defense and we can win with Alex Smith" 😭😭
They picked him in panic that the chargers were gonna take him
"Deshaun Wattson has a Front Office trying to decimate him"
Well Bill O' Brien did get fired.
Mitch will be good, on someone else’s team. The bears ruined him by trading up to take him at No. 2 and then the two guys picked below him killing it the way they are. He would’ve been better off watching behind a journeyman started like Fitz or Teddy for 1.5 seasons to take pressure off. Remember that Pace fell in love with Mitch when he saw his regular old good Toyota Camry. This is the Bears GM. Nuff said.
You don't have the *LUXURY* of waiting for 2nf overall picks to *FIND THEMSELVES*, not like the old days, when Aaron Rodgers *sat* while Favre, got the old. You have to *Either* pay them, or cut-em loose. It's his fault he didn't take ownership of the position.
He might be out if the league unless he sticks as a backup. What are you smoking?
It was a last-minute decision. Even John Fox said that he didn't know they were taking trubisky until a couple of hours before the draft. There was no thought or collaboration that went into the selection of it Mitch. It was all Pace.
He's Christian Ponder 2.0 and he can't throw to his left.
Ponder was suppose to go on 3 round lol Vikings saw something we didn’t 😂😂😂
I’m a die hard FSU fan and the whole NOLE nation was stunned Christian Ponder was drafted in the first round
With Big Ben’s retirement and all of the needs on my Steelers, I think they should give MT a 2 year contract and draft a QB next year. Fix both lines, corner, ILB ect
Haven't watched the video yet, but Im gonna have to agree with everything you say based off the title
Same
Same
Spot on with this assessment. Pace doesn’t have a plan on how to build a team and ruined Trubisky by not giving him the pieces to develop and succeed.
Thes guy's get paid a lot of money to guess, half the time they are wrong 🤔🤔🤔
Trubisky failed in the NFL because he was drafted way too high for what his value was (traded up one spot too when no one was taking him there), so had too much expectation...but mainly because he was quarterback for the Chicago Bears. Damn it fucking sucks to be a Bears fan
4:53 Jamis would probably have like 50 ints if you took this into account lmao
Yeah but he has talent and was a winner in college, Bitchell has and never will have any of that
Crab legs
Watching that draft I was laughing my ass off😂 I was like Trubisky?? Am I missing something here?? How could you look at what Watson did in college vs Bama and pick Trubumski?
Well if you ask Mel kiper it’s because the Bama defense was tired😂😂
The only plausible explanation is racism.
Trubisky was trash in college and draft day the commentators frowned when the Bears picked him. The Bears thought he was the great white hope.
Exactly. I thought Chicago was Desean's team. Andy Reid suprised me with Mahomes but it worked out.
Utter nonsense.
Chris Sanders yeah all 32 teams were lined up to get Watson and Mahommes. They wanted him so much they didn’t draft him either. Lol
In the end John fox said it himself * I didn't know we were gonna take Mitch until that morning of the draft, we were intended to take Jamal Adams* Ryan Pace wanted him & drafted him
Trubisky wasn't even good in College.
And he got drafted before an Athletic Beast like Mahomes and a former National Champion Deshaun Watson. Still don't get it.
Hate to say it but, politics. Alot of nfl scouts are still stuck on the “pocket qb”. Sounds really stupid ik but it’s the reality... why you think they wanted lamar jackson to change positions? They genuinely thought he wasn’t built for next level
I honestly think they didn't want a black qb when you think about it. Like we even passed on Cam Newton and he would be better in the long run. But dang
@@mrsaysay111 the best qb in the league stay in the pocket. The worst qb like Mitch or baker run around all the time.
@@Bucks7542 The best QBs are Mahomes, Rodgers, and Wilson. All of them are great runners as well as passers. Learn football
@@sdsoda4521 I know football douche
I love your videos!!! They help me keep up on NFL news!
I enjoy your content quite a bit in my off time, but I like Zach shamlers (strong opinion sports) take on this. Mitch is an at best average quarterback with a few good weapons; Allen Robinson, Tarik Cohen and an at least average offensive line. Most mock drafts of the 2017 draft had dashaun Watson higher anyways and he was a much more complete quarterback than any one coming out of the class out the bat (biased I am a Texans fan after all). Mitch I would say is never gonna be a franchise quarterback but maybe a quality backup on a team with good support
Man if only we could get the QB right. Hopefully trubisky has a comeback story!
Hi hope you are having a wonderful day Mike
When the Bears drafted Trubisky, I thought he would be decent. He wasn't going to be as good as Deshaun Watson or Patrick Mahomes, but he would be enough to alleviate the suffering of trying to watch Jay Cutler try in vain to throw a football, and hopefully propel the Bears at least into the playoffs again.
He has shown promise on multiple occasions, and I thought that getting Matt Nagy, a renowned quarterback coach, would help him find the footing he needs. That didn't happen. Trubisky consistently overthrows his targets and he has issues throwing long passes, meaning he really doesn't get a lot of passing yards.
I think that the Bears ought to keep him as a backup this year, and then let him go and find a new quarterback to take his place or just let Foles keep the starter job if he proves himself enough.
Foles has done well in both of the games he started, despite losing one of those games, and I would argue that he was decent back in Jacksonville but did not have the team surrounding him to really make him shine. A bit like Matt Stafford and the Lions, really. With the Bears, he has a decent offense and a solid defense to support him, and I think he'll do well.
Also, on a closing note, fuck Ryan Pace we need to fire him and not moving Kyle Long to left tackle and keeping him on the team was one of the stupidest decisions ever made. I rest my case.
He should go to the bucs and have Tom Brady teach him some things
Honestly, Trubisky is a great QB but I think if he had more offensive threats, he would have a better career. When he is a free agent, he NEEDS to leave Chicago.
Fr. Idk why everyone hates on him he’s honestly pretty good. Maybe not 2nd pick good but he’s still good. he took a team that was on a big losing streak and turned that into playoffs. Like seriously how can you not see he has talent🤦🏽♂️
Jets have definitely done the same thing with Sam darnold
The only reason mitch trubisky failed because the offense o line have a hard time protecting him, trubisky can't do anything right in the offense especially when he literally can't read defense on the field, the bears shouldn't never drafted trubisky the first place, ryan pace should be fired for drafted him back from 2017.
The only qb I know was projected to suucced was Dan Marino
Luck, Elway
Ive studied trubisky being a bears fan . he has never had a deandre hopkins or a tyreek hill or travis kelce. Like mahomes n watson have. His coaching in chicago has been piss poor.
I don't think he failed, he's still young.
I am no Bears fan but if they had some more talent around him besides Cohen , he might do better . Folds has been pretty bad too .
Brah im a bears fan and watched a ton of college football i had mitch as my 4th qb on the board behind Watson kiezer mahomes. I would of taken Watson at 2 no doubt and I think the bears will always regret not getting Watson. with hindsight i would of love to get mahomes but I didn't see him being this good from his college career
Fair enough.
You didn't see enough from Mahomes to rank him higher. But you did see enough of trubisky to know that he wasn't the number 2 overall draft pick
The Bears learned a lesson with Trubisky. Never Draft a Quarterback that doesn’t prove himself in college. It’s not basketball
Great video love the content
This guy was a double doink away from being a Joe flacco
Double doink, made Nagy want kick the guy out of Chicago. Jordan Howard is the same why did this guy get sent to Philadelphia? The guy was the same as Jordan Howard.
Its him...he's trash. Its not the scheme or play calling, he is inaccurate and he gets happy feet and makes mistakes.
He’s throw better on the run, he lacks touch, he’s terrible at reacting to blitzes, needs work at adjusting things at the line and over all he needs to switch positions. Maybe try being the 8th TE on the Roster
Deer in headlights
Honestly I think trubisky is gonna be a backup qb until one random season he’s gonna become the starter and lead his team to a miracle season
Has there ever been a “project draft pick” that has succeeded in the NFL honest question
Arguably. Tom Brady
Petty Ceddy maybe some success, but I dont count one or two decent seasons as successful
Russell Wilson
Well u can consider Lamar Jackson as one I dont personally qualify him as one but 🤷🏻♂️
49ers passed on aaron rodger (packers qb) and last year the 49ers beat the packers twice
Mel has a history of calling certain QBs small, Watson, Lamar, and more
Who else remembers his first video
Except for Watson, the Texans are a disaster. He is actually having another monster season despite the atrocious offensive line and the absence of Hopkins. PFF has him ranked as the #4 QB in the NFL through week 8. Put him on the Chiefs or other top team and he would be as good as anyone.
The Bears definitely fumbled Trubisky! Seems like they dummied him down to "Protect" their investment. Just look at his play style from his second year to his third, totally different! They were 2-0 when they benched him, we have 0-3 teams and nobody gets benched smh. They were losing bad in that Falcons game but you have to let young QB's play through adversity..
Yes but we wanted to win.
Brandon Hutsler He went from 5-11 to 12-4 to 8-8..and was 2-0 starting out this season..that’s not to bad when you have QB’s like Sam Darnold and Daniel Jones still starting.
StainSquad 🤣🤣
Brandon Hutsler It’s coaching..Nagy has to coach to the QB’s strength. Nagy isn’t doing this..Foles fights right into Nagy’s scheme because he already coached him in the past. Lamar, Mahomes, Watson, Burrow are all being tailored to their strengths. Nagy is actually coaching backwards lol
@@steelwill78 Sooooo the QB gets *ALL THE GLORY* When the *TEAM* wins, but none of the blame, when they lose???? Gotcha👍🏻
If the bears made the playoffs last year, Trubisky is probably still the starter. He is by no means a bad qb and he is an improvement over the likes of jay cutler and Rex grossman.
I wanted WATSON
Mel Kiper has a proven track record.....of being completely wrong. As the Rock famously said, "Boots to asses"...
Trubisky was taken earlier in the draft because of the color of his skin
Facts
Pure BS
Not true at all. It’s just the type of quarterback and no off the field issues
Hate to play race card but thats the only reason I can think..the owner wanted his type of QB
The *ELEPHANT* IN THE ROOM🤫
The bears have never had a franchise changing qb
Yeah I honestly think the bears have been the worst with QBs, even compared to other teams that have lacked franchise QBs:
Jets: Joe Namath
Browns: Otto Graham, Bernie Kozar
Vikings: Fran Tarkenton, Brett Favre
Lions: Matthew Stafford
Cardinals: Kurt Warner, Carson Palmer
Bengals: Boomer Esiason
Rams: Kurt Warner
Bills: Jim Kelly
Maybe the only other teams you can argue are worse are the Bucs and the Jags, but the Bucs now have Brady and the Jags are nearly 80 years younger than the bears, so the bears have had much more time to find a QB comparatively.
the last time the bears had a decent qb the russians conquered berlin
The front office rarely put pieces around them to succeed and the fans complain because they compare them to the Packers QBs and believe that type of play is standard.
Had nothing to do with his talent and everything to do with bad development under Nagy. Put him on any other team and Mitch would be good.
I just love how everybody calls him “mich” because they can’t pronounce his full name.
Nah people are just lazy
They can it’s just who would say Mitchell
Tree Fiddy Ik but nobody says it
How old are you- 12?
Or maybe that’s just the name he goes by
If Mitch was a 2nd or early 3rd round pick, he could have developed without the pressure of being the player traded up and past Mahomes. Chicago rushed him and Nagy isn't the QB whisperer.
Him not being able to sit behind and learn from an actual good veteran hurt his development to learn the game
Trubisky will be great with the Steelers. Mark it down.
Patrick Mahomes wouldn’t have become a good qb if he was in Chicago. My personal take
That's just a fact that most people dont seem to think about
Yes he would just as good
@@zakariaosman2384 Okay, so Mahomes had a really good QB to sit behind in Alex Smith, Mahomes even said that a lot of what he learned came from him. He also had a really good coaching staff in Kansas City, and an already really good team
Yes
People are taking over current skill instead of if the system works
Trubisky shouldn’t have been drafted #2. He may have been a 1st round pick, but not number 2. We should’ve drafted Mahomes or Watson. A team that needed a QB at the time would be the Broncos who had the 20th pick and had no qb after Manning retiring the season before the 2017 season
im still mad we dont have mahomes
jason walter Don’t, Bears would’ve wasted his potential and you’d be watching a video called “Why Patrick Mahomes Failed in the NFL”
anh. seems I recall daniels and bray were brought in to work with mitch. It really may just be that he's not in a system that fits him.
Ya dude I think you forgot to flip the title....
yep
Y’all gotta see the facts, Mitchell Trubisky was put in the worst position possible. He went through a lot of offensive coordinator changes, and he didn’t have any good quarterback to learn from. But for Patrick Mahomes, it was different. He has a goated coach, who is Andy Reid. And he had Alex Smith to learn behind. And also some great weapons, like Travis Kelce and tyreek hill. Not trying to bring any hate but you can’t blame this all on Trubisky
@@sauc3gg652 He got a top 5 defense Allen Robinson and Tarik Cohen.
Connor Cruz football. But the defense would help the team, not help Mitch be a better quarterback
@@connorcrumfootball5831 pat mahomes though had Hill Watkins Kelce and Robinson
Sometimes i think americans put too much emphasis on their stats and not enough on instincts, peripheral vision, and spacial awareness.
Dude should have never been drafted! Straight bum!!
I’ll never know what the bears were thinkin. Hopefully they still aren’t listening to the same person.
Title should read "How Mitchell Trubisky failed Mitchell Trubisky".
having watched Trubisky in college, I cannot understand why anyone thought he'd be a starting NFL QB. you can't just magically turn someone with the right physique into a skilled passer in the NFL.
I never watched him but I hear he started for less than 1 season how do you draft someone like that
I really think Steelers should pick him up, that's a team that can make him great.
No, trubisky would've needed some time, I still think he needs to be behind an experienced vet
One thing all bears fans know is that Mitch is better than Nick
The messed up when they traded Jordan Howard
Nagy had his pre 2017 nfl draft QB evaluations released he had Mahomes #1 Watson #2 & Trubisky #3 & Nagy did say week 1 in 2018 that Trubisky cant run his offense
Watson 🐂+🔥
=dinner
That is a cow
Looks like a steak to me
bull fire?
Great video, Mike. As a long-suffering bears fan, it is PAINFUL to watch Mahomes and Watson play. However, eventually (I'm 45 yo; when I say "eventually", I mean AFTER I retire and am long dead) Bears fans will forget about all of this when we finally get that bona fide franchise QB (Hell, maybe even develop one - nah, we would need the following: ownership change, visionary football leadership, have a football-first front office instead of a bean-counter as the organization president, etc; that's right, WORLD PEACE will break out OR the sun will have eaten the earth eventually before that ever happens....) .... but your point is well made and, admittedly, the Bears had NO BUSINESS drafting Trubisky, let alone trading up for him (Pace should be fired - not just for this but for also consistently missing on his first round choices) . . Have no choice but to truly appreciate football artistry and enjoy watching Mahomes/Watson/etc. play (still cannot root for Rodgers, sorry) and appreciate the fact that there is no point in wishing to own and maintain a Bugatti Chiron with a Ford Taurus (2003) football organization and Model T football mindset . . . Trubisky WILL go on and succeed elsewhere (maybe he will take longer like Tannehill did in the "right" situation or become a solid backup or HELL, MAYBE even win a SB (!!!!)) - now THAT would be TRULY PAINFUL to watch but I would have no choice then but to WISH HIM THE VERY BEST . . .