I would’ve expected you to have a more accurate title. Instead you chose one that many people will see as allegations made against Sum 41. This disingenuous attempt to get more clicks than an ACCURATE title reflects your own beliefs about your platform. We can’t criticize the mainstream media if we’re doing the EXACT same thing as them.
But seriously. This is the horror of S.A. and grooming... Decades of suffering in silence and no one had any idea. Deryck Whibley must have needed a lot of strength to put on a happy face all this time. It's heartbreaking.
@@SkinnyEatWorld95 It is the shame that the predator relies on, to keep someone silent. The stigma is horrible, but for some reason men are left on the back burner.
"Decades of suffering in silence and no one had any idea" This is bullshit. It was 100% known and discussed openly. I have no idea why he's claiming his band members doesn't know (other than covering for the guy even more). This was literally known, if you were around back then you'd know that their signing to island records was literally announced by an edgy gossip site with the wording "The Guy From Treble Charger Is Fucking A Boy And His Bands New Song Sounds Like The Beastie Boys". This was totally fucking known since day 1. He always denied it/swept it under the rug. He's allowed to do that but it wasn't in silence and people knew.
@@notreally-sf3df Take it easy champ. Most people aren't in the loop because they have a fuckeen life and " He always denied it/swept it under the rug." is NOT evidence of it being "totally fucking known since day 1". I could start rumours about anyone's mum and not even know which ones are true, but some would. Some mums be nasty. Not most though. A "The Guy From Treble Charger Is Fucking A Boy And His Bands New Song Sounds Like The Beastie Boys" is not a statement most would hold to rigorous scrutiny even if they work for all them reputable gossip media outlets. We all know we should believe every word they say. The question is... Are you defending a groomer? Furthermore. Are you saying the crimes weren't committed? Or are you saying they were committed, but it wasn't morally wrong to do so? Dude, that sounds kinda sus. I hope I'm not misunderstanding this. Are you saying that people in the inner circle were complicit and, therefore, guilty and condemnable? I guess I could agree with that depending on the circumstance. Bottom line... Who do you target? The adult or the child? And to placate any upcoming contrarian arguments... If all of this is a fabrication. Who profits? And does any gain exceed the cost? As with any conspiracy theory, this seems to blow the tinfoil hat right off people's head unless it's lodged deep down inside their asshole. Please elaborate. I am genuinely curious.
I have absolutely no reason to disbelieve Deryck, the power imbalance between him and Greig Nori. Whibley was a teenager at the time and Greig was twice his age. The situation between him and Nori is abuse, I was listening to "No Brains" today, and it all was so clear to me: it's about him. It takes so much courage for Deryck to come forward, hopefully it encourages people that have experienced similar experiences to him to come forward and speak out. Disgustingly, Nori worked with Hedley too, and their lead singer turned out to be a disgusting pig of a rapist.
@@danframpt0n In the article that I read on Rolling Stone, he even confided in Avril when they were still a couple. The last I heard, they're still friends and she even said when he discussed it to her that it was abuse, cut and dry. She's a very smart woman for calling it exactly what it was.
In the book he says he never intentionally wrote the lyrics about Greig but he says that looking back he might as well have and how Greig treated him and the band is definitely still a root cause for why they became darker and angrier than ever before musically
@@sophie_drachen ...You're saying a lot for someone who managed to miss so much. This was literally known and Deryck always denied it. He's allowed to deny it (he's lying right now too), but everyone knew, if you were around, you knew. I've been literally saying this for 20 years.
Ah man. That completely and totally sucks. I'm so sorry this happened to him...I went through it too, I 100% empathize and, heartbreaking is the right word for this. God, it just made tears squirt out of my eyes.
@@Flamethrower1942 yea dude, the holier than thou bullshit is really annoying. If ya need extra holes in order to be holier, then yer not that holy. xD
I'm about to take a flight from Dallas to Sacramento to attend my son's funeral and I'm waiting to board the plane. I'm living my own nightmare. My son was only 18.
5 years ago I lost my fiance who was only 23. He was murdered and it took the cops 3 years to do anything. You can and will get through this because you are not alone! ❤
@@danframpt0nnot everyone can summarize and narrate topics/events in an engaging way and also sound like a credible source. You're just being you and it's working 👍
I believe Deryck fully. Not just because I'm a victim, myself, but because there's literally nothing to gain from lying abt stuff like this. It happens, but certainly not as often as is reported on the internet, and at least where I live in New Zealand, there is absolutely no monetary gain from such a case. At best, you gain some kind of peace from speaking out and your support system rallies around you. At worst, people don't believe you, insist you deserved it and treat you like garbage. There's so many layers I can't get into rn, and it's _so fucking hard_ I feel queasy just writing this. I hope he gets what he needs from this, I'm glad he survived the trauma, and I'm glad that he now feels comfortable enough to divulge this information. And I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but I'd rather believe 1000 liars before siding with one abuser. I'm not gonna feel good about it, I'm gonna be angry, but I'm not gonna feel as catastrophically awful as I'd feel supporting an abuser. Especially one who commits sexual violence.
How the book goes into detail about their relationship is even more devastating like the part where he just pushes Deryck over the edge causing him to go apeshit in a hotel and injure himself really badly is heartbreaking
I had to hold back tears when I originally heard about this. As a victim of sexual harassment (not grooming since, considering the fact he went on multiple schizo rants about how "everyone is autistic", he's to dumb for that), I know firsthand how this can affect someone.
@@41919isinappropriate Do you love talking stupid shit online that isn't true? Because you really seem like someone with the lowest of brains and common sense for that by far
As someone who actually was a treble charger fan before these accusations came out (despite not being raised in canada in the early 2000s) This was a huge bummer. I even considered greg to be my favorite producer thanks to autopilot off, cauterize, and most of what he worked on being amazing. And I was a bit sad even that he stopped working with sum 41. But now that the things Groomer Greg did came out I understand a lot more why Underclass hero (sum 41’s 2007 album) was produced by Deryck himself. Really feel bad for Deryck. He was and is still much more talented than his ex manager will be.
This sucks, i am a SA survivor, trying anyway. The sad thing is Noiri was instrumental in getting sum 41 to where they are, thats a mind job added. Red by Treble charger is a better song than American Psycho, we used to cover it way back in the day. Is there charges coming.
I don't know how to feel about all this news other than empathetic for the Guy. I wish he came forward with this stuff so much sooner. The pretty veil is really being yanked off the hideous face of "Hollywood" and now that we have independant freedom thanks to the internet, I admire him for finally coming forward and helping other kids see why they should really think twice before getting involved with the mainstream industry. Keep on Rockin' with the old-school vids. And as always- End Gang. 🤟
damn this is so devastating, can't say I really listened to any of their music but still sucks to hear. Also first time I'm early enough for 3 hour gang lol, pulling an all nighter for a uni assignment and currently procrastinating
Its really messed up considering Greg had a side hustle back in the day that rented venues around Southern ontario and did all ages battle of the bands (that were already pay to play, the band that sold the most tickets one)
Waaaasssuuuuppppp hour 2 gang. Get it on. I’ve been a fan for 20 years but didn’t find out till yesterday that Sum41 stands for the 41st day of summer when they would officially get out of school for the year.
@@danframpt0n I mean... I once got so fucked up on so many things after a gig out of town that when I woke up, I had no idea how I got back home. But, it wasn't home... ...it was a dumpster out of town.
Umm...sure, Deryk wants to throw around accusations of others when he was messing around with a 16-year-old on a bus in Vegas. I was there, and the girl's mother almost burst through the bus to get her. But if Deryk had this happen to him, it's horrible.
I haven’t read the book yet and only knew the very top of the iceberg. This is fucking heart shattering and it feels like the drinking and even SBM was a response to this. Fuck….
What sucks is that I love Grieg's work!! He produced two of my all time favorite albums: Autopilot Off - Make a Sound and Sum 41 - Does This Look Infected. Bummer the guy behind them couldn't control his urges and had to be heinous in his controlling behavior to cover his tracks... I watched Derrick's video talking about his yesterday... 🥲
DTLI has pretty piss poor production and Greig forced the band to redo the entire thing because the guitars were “out of tune” (Which wasn’t true) leading to what we have now and Make A Sound only sounds good because more competent people worked alongside him as producer who were John from Lounge and the lead singer himself
Nori used deryck, all treble chargers hits american psycho and so on deryck cowrote and gave back up harmonys on. Nori's a snake, as a family member of derycks nori followed sums everywhere and tried to have all control. Guy was jealous of sums young success
So I grew up in the early 2000s pop punk scene in toronto. Had an internship at the edge, and spent alot of time there. This doesn't prove anything but there were always jokes about how Greig Nori was into little boys....i taught it was just rumors but I was really shocked to see this so many years later....
This story highlights the issue of powerful figures in the music industry abusing their positions of trust and the need to protect artists from such behavior. These predators are placed high on pedestals, while whispers of their crimes circulate behind the scenes. Shame on the media for ignoring and hiding these stories as was done in the case of Sean Combs
@brianhouston6984 you're 100% right, honestly I was a kid then and did not know how to navigate those jokes/whispers, but if I ever see that around me now as an adult I'm fuckin sounding the bullhorn
I'm more than halfway through the book so far. It's a great read, but tough to read when he describes Nori's abuse and behaviour. No wonder the majority of "Chuck" was so dark...Deryck was dealing with so much ("I'm Not The One" and "Open Your Eyes" are direct shots at Nori).
#ENDGANGLIFER #THREEHOURGANG It's insane to me that people still want to be rockstars and whatnot in the major label entertainment industry hollywood etc etc type shit scene. I mean, no scene is ever entirely safe, but holy shit the world of famous people is just disgusting.
Yo if this guy tried to kiss me in a bathroom stall before in supposed to be doing acid…. BAD TRIP ALERT! VIBES ALL BAD! ANXIETY POPPIN OFF! Maybe thats the straight white male in my soul leeching out, but I’d be hella uncomfortable and feeling horrible leading into the trip. And I’ve never done any of those drugs in my life, so this would be the most panic attack inducing scenario you could possibly try psychedelics in, in my opinion. Dude might as well have pulled out a loaded gun in the bathroom stall
yes ill never EVER EVER EVER downplay sexual vaolations, it will never be normal and its always evil, i will not like 2 many ppl downplay it heres ur pancakes 🥞 none of them were molested while being made cuz they were made with love
I been extremely intererested in the P. Diddy story thats been going on lately. I see a lot of similarities in the Treble Charber grooming of Sum41 with P. Diddy & Usher grooming Justin Beiber. Its really starting to seem like everyone who made it big in.mainstream.was.groomed & molested. Or worst.
I just remembered Treble Charger. I wished I didn't. Let’s be real, rock stars in their true form will never be a thing again with social media trackinbg everyone. It sums up why Sleep Token and Ghost are massive because you can't attach their own faces to any brands or celeb magazines. We'll be seeing more masks and costumes in the future, hence why Slipknot will regenerate again and again.
@@DeltresePshanks The only thing that would make a man gay is enjoying and consenting to sex with another man. If it is not consensual then that has nothing to do with his sexuality. Or any guy going through the same thing. In saying that, you're implying (whether intentional or not) that rape is a type of sex which in itself is honestly disgusting and shameful. Do better.
@@c19xxc73 it was consensual. Listen to the story again. It's cool if you're gay. I just didn't know he was gay. Also, the guy's jaw should have been broken instantly. But the guy kissed back. That's gay as hell. Now, you're gay. There's nothing wrong with it.
Treble Charger rings a bell, I think they were on the bill of a show I saw a long time ago. You would think with a name like that, they would be a butt rock band.
There was like a music business school type thing that was run by Coalition Music in Toronto. Greig did a couple guest sessions. He even drove me home once. Weird times.
Sum 41 out number Blink by at least 2 guys. And Tom is in Gob. So. No chance, Blink is cooked. Like Travis is going to lift a finger. Those are for holding Kardashians now.
This wasn't the story I was expecting to cover today...
Excellent work. Thank you.
Do you know what happened to Finn?
From Newfoundland, they were on all the time
I would’ve expected you to have a more accurate title. Instead you chose one that many people will see as allegations made against Sum 41. This disingenuous attempt to get more clicks than an ACCURATE title reflects your own beliefs about your platform. We can’t criticize the mainstream media if we’re doing the EXACT same thing as them.
@@Randomjackass135 well, it dose say he was sixteen, and not allegations against but I see where ur coming from
But seriously. This is the horror of S.A. and grooming... Decades of suffering in silence and no one had any idea. Deryck Whibley must have needed a lot of strength to put on a happy face all this time. It's heartbreaking.
Agreed. Must have been so difficult
It's definitely to be a man and go through sexual assault. It makes you feel like you're not a real man and embarrassed to even admit it happened....
@@SkinnyEatWorld95 It is the shame that the predator relies on, to keep someone silent. The stigma is horrible, but for some reason men are left on the back burner.
"Decades of suffering in silence and no one had any idea"
This is bullshit. It was 100% known and discussed openly. I have no idea why he's claiming his band members doesn't know (other than covering for the guy even more). This was literally known, if you were around back then you'd know that their signing to island records was literally announced by an edgy gossip site with the wording "The Guy From Treble Charger Is Fucking A Boy And His Bands New Song Sounds Like The Beastie Boys".
This was totally fucking known since day 1. He always denied it/swept it under the rug. He's allowed to do that but it wasn't in silence and people knew.
@@notreally-sf3df
Take it easy champ. Most people aren't in the loop because they have a fuckeen life and " He always denied it/swept it under the rug." is NOT evidence of it being "totally fucking known since day 1".
I could start rumours about anyone's mum and not even know which ones are true, but some would. Some mums be nasty. Not most though. A "The Guy From Treble Charger Is Fucking A Boy And His Bands New Song Sounds Like The Beastie Boys" is not a statement most would hold to rigorous scrutiny even if they work for all them reputable gossip media outlets. We all know we should believe every word they say.
The question is... Are you defending a groomer?
Furthermore. Are you saying the crimes weren't committed? Or are you saying they were committed, but it wasn't morally wrong to do so?
Dude, that sounds kinda sus.
I hope I'm not misunderstanding this.
Are you saying that people in the inner circle were complicit and, therefore, guilty and condemnable? I guess I could agree with that depending on the circumstance.
Bottom line... Who do you target? The adult or the child?
And to placate any upcoming contrarian arguments... If all of this is a fabrication. Who profits? And does any gain exceed the cost? As with any conspiracy theory, this seems to blow the tinfoil hat right off people's head unless it's lodged deep down inside their asshole.
Please elaborate. I am genuinely curious.
I always wonder why he always use to drink so much, Its so sad he drank the pain away and it almost killed him.
Yeah the entire story is sad. It seems like he's in a good place now tho
You had to wonder?
So much I wanna say .... now it makes sense why dude had his issues. Get well, stay strong, stay brave and stay healthy Deryck.
Hell yeah! I second that
Don’t do drugs kids.
When is Canada going to apologise for Simple Plan
What about JB?
what about drake?
@@RacoonCHJB is a Groomer too
What about Bryan Adams ?
What about Kittie ?
I have absolutely no reason to disbelieve Deryck, the power imbalance between him and Greig Nori. Whibley was a teenager at the time and Greig was twice his age. The situation between him and Nori is abuse, I was listening to "No Brains" today, and it all was so clear to me: it's about him. It takes so much courage for Deryck to come forward, hopefully it encourages people that have experienced similar experiences to him to come forward and speak out.
Disgustingly, Nori worked with Hedley too, and their lead singer turned out to be a disgusting pig of a rapist.
Well said!
@@danframpt0n In the article that I read on Rolling Stone, he even confided in Avril when they were still a couple. The last I heard, they're still friends and she even said when he discussed it to her that it was abuse, cut and dry. She's a very smart woman for calling it exactly what it was.
@@sophie_drachenyes, Deryck and Avril are still friends.. Avril even invited Deryck to her show this year and they sing together
In the book he says he never intentionally wrote the lyrics about Greig but he says that looking back he might as well have and how Greig treated him and the band is definitely still a root cause for why they became darker and angrier than ever before musically
@@sophie_drachen ...You're saying a lot for someone who managed to miss so much. This was literally known and Deryck always denied it. He's allowed to deny it (he's lying right now too), but everyone knew, if you were around, you knew. I've been literally saying this for 20 years.
Ah man. That completely and totally sucks. I'm so sorry this happened to him...I went through it too, I 100% empathize and, heartbreaking is the right word for this. God, it just made tears squirt out of my eyes.
I'm sorry to hear :(. Sending positive vibes
@@danframpt0n Thank you. It's more common than people really know about or want to face. I'm so sorry to hear about this.
Well Treble Charger were a band of middle aged men pretending to look and sound like they were 20 so it doesn't surprise me
you mean like Sum 41. lol jk
@Jinn-y2u I'm talking about over 20 years ago lol. Treble charger are now in their 60s and that's just hilarious. Midlife crisis band haha
Their first album came out in 1994
in 93ish a member of that band used to get happy endings from a girl I went to high school with. Those guys were 30ish in the early 90s.
@@RyanRoemer8624 yeah, the only good album they made. The completely sucked after that point.
This is just depressing
Agreed. Super sucks
@@danframpt0n I'm a fan of both Sum 41, and Treble Charger so this is a bad day.
This is one of the many reasons why we need feminism
Part way through Deryck's audiobook now. Greig Nori seems like a narcissistic predator! What a complete parasitic coward weasel.
Maybe Greig Nori is gonna pull off a Russel Brand and pivot towards religious conservatism. That's always a solid move.
Haha yeah
Beware of the righteous men , look at a man deeds not what he speaks.
@@Flamethrower1942 yea dude, the holier than thou bullshit is really annoying. If ya need extra holes in order to be holier, then yer not that holy. xD
I'm about to take a flight from Dallas to Sacramento to attend my son's funeral and I'm waiting to board the plane. I'm living my own nightmare. My son was only 18.
5 years ago I lost my fiance who was only 23. He was murdered and it took the cops 3 years to do anything. You can and will get through this because you are not alone! ❤
I’m sorry man
Baby Reindeer on Netflix shows us just how common this is and how easy this happens.
you have host appeal Dan. i like that. sorry about this news. wow .. the world is full of this kinda stuff. and it's heartbreaking.
Host appeal ☺️ not sure what that is but it sounds awesome! Lol Thank you
@@danframpt0n you have a clear voice and do a great job on your channel. much love.
@@danframpt0nnot everyone can summarize and narrate topics/events in an engaging way and also sound like a credible source. You're just being you and it's working 👍
Wouldn't be surprised if Grieg gets put in the same cell as P Diddy
I believe Deryck fully. Not just because I'm a victim, myself, but because there's literally nothing to gain from lying abt stuff like this. It happens, but certainly not as often as is reported on the internet, and at least where I live in New Zealand, there is absolutely no monetary gain from such a case.
At best, you gain some kind of peace from speaking out and your support system rallies around you. At worst, people don't believe you, insist you deserved it and treat you like garbage. There's so many layers I can't get into rn, and it's _so fucking hard_ I feel queasy just writing this. I hope he gets what he needs from this, I'm glad he survived the trauma, and I'm glad that he now feels comfortable enough to divulge this information.
And I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but I'd rather believe 1000 liars before siding with one abuser. I'm not gonna feel good about it, I'm gonna be angry, but I'm not gonna feel as catastrophically awful as I'd feel supporting an abuser. Especially one who commits sexual violence.
Sum 41 ,and bands like them were the end of good rock. I had to live through the time when these bands were getting airplay. Versus 60-90s rock.
All killer no filler great album.
Never was that big on Sum 41 but man thats a bummer. 🥞 🥞🥞
🥞🥞🥞
Yo, Deryck! If you're reading this, hit me up! I'd love to whoop this dudes ass for ya! Just cover my travel expenses!
How the book goes into detail about their relationship is even more devastating like the part where he just pushes Deryck over the edge causing him to go apeshit in a hotel and injure himself really badly is heartbreaking
Having to hold onto these things kills me inside....I feel for him, one of my heroes knows exactly how it feels😔
It's so damn sad
I had to hold back tears when I originally heard about this. As a victim of sexual harassment (not grooming since, considering the fact he went on multiple schizo rants about how "everyone is autistic", he's to dumb for that), I know firsthand how this can affect someone.
It's so fucking sad
When did he have any multiple rants about everyone being autistic though?
Did you read any part of my comment besides that?
@@41919isinappropriate Do you love talking stupid shit online that isn't true? Because you really seem like someone with the lowest of brains and common sense for that by far
@@41919isinappropriate Do you love talking stupid shit that isn't true? You have the lowest of brains, so you definitely do
As someone who actually was a treble charger fan before these accusations came out (despite not being raised in canada in the early 2000s) This was a huge bummer. I even considered greg to be my favorite producer thanks to autopilot off, cauterize, and most of what he worked on being amazing. And I was a bit sad even that he stopped working with sum 41. But now that the things Groomer Greg did came out I understand a lot more why Underclass hero (sum 41’s 2007 album) was produced by Deryck himself. Really feel bad for Deryck. He was and is still much more talented than his ex manager will be.
Treble charger always sucked.
Agreeeeeed
This sucks, i am a SA survivor, trying anyway. The sad thing is Noiri was instrumental in getting sum 41 to where they are, thats a mind job added.
Red by Treble charger is a better song than American Psycho, we used to cover it way back in the day. Is there charges coming.
4:07 the “It’s not gay, it’s punk” angle smh wow
an insane play
Yeah gay is only punk when it’s consensual ❤🏳️🌈
Well this story was quite a bummer. But at least I'm in a gang now. Do we get a gang sign?
These groomers are sick.
Heavy metal and mullets are how I was raised. Hey did you see that Harmony Korine movie Gummo? That movie was my 1985.
I have not
@@danframpt0n It is tough to watch, but 100% accurate. Korine's best work.
How many spoons can you curl? @@chimpooey9083
I don't know how to feel about all this news other than empathetic for the Guy. I wish he came forward with this stuff so much sooner. The pretty veil is really being yanked off the hideous face of "Hollywood" and now that we have independant freedom thanks to the internet, I admire him for finally coming forward and helping other kids see why they should really think twice before getting involved with the mainstream industry. Keep on Rockin' with the old-school vids. And as always- End Gang. 🤟
yooo thank you
I feel terrible for deryk.
Same. It's brutal
damn this is so devastating, can't say I really listened to any of their music but still sucks to hear. Also first time I'm early enough for 3 hour gang lol, pulling an all nighter for a uni assignment and currently procrastinating
Welcome to the gang. We celebrate procrastination here
Bruh its kinda grody to call SA "All this drama"
fair play
Heartbreaking 💔
It sure is
Its really messed up considering Greg had a side hustle back in the day that rented venues around Southern ontario and did all ages battle of the bands (that were already pay to play, the band that sold the most tickets one)
End gang! You the man Dan!
Eng gang 4 life! thanks dawgie
Waaaasssuuuuppppp hour 2 gang. Get it on. I’ve been a fan for 20 years but didn’t find out till yesterday that Sum41 stands for the 41st day of summer when they would officially get out of school for the year.
Excellent fun fact. Thank u
@@B1055BH I didnt know that...nice!
Maybe Greig Nori took so many drugs that he thought he had time travelled to ancient Greece.
lol fair theory
@@danframpt0n I mean... I once got so fucked up on so many things after a gig out of town that when I woke up, I had no idea how I got back home.
But, it wasn't home...
...it was a dumpster out of town.
Umm...sure, Deryk wants to throw around accusations of others when he was messing around with a 16-year-old on a bus in Vegas. I was there, and the girl's mother almost burst through the bus to get her. But if Deryk had this happen to him, it's horrible.
I haven’t read the book yet and only knew the very top of the iceberg. This is fucking heart shattering and it feels like the drinking and even SBM was a response to this. Fuck….
What sucks is that I love Grieg's work!! He produced two of my all time favorite albums: Autopilot Off - Make a Sound and Sum 41 - Does This Look Infected. Bummer the guy behind them couldn't control his urges and had to be heinous in his controlling behavior to cover his tracks... I watched Derrick's video talking about his yesterday... 🥲
DTLI has pretty piss poor production and Greig forced the band to redo the entire thing because the guitars were “out of tune” (Which wasn’t true) leading to what we have now and Make A Sound only sounds good because more competent people worked alongside him as producer who were John from Lounge and the lead singer himself
The entertainment industry is fvkd.
Beyond all repair
Nori used deryck, all treble chargers hits american psycho and so on deryck cowrote and gave back up harmonys on. Nori's a snake, as a family member of derycks nori followed sums everywhere and tried to have all control. Guy was jealous of sums young success
So I grew up in the early 2000s pop punk scene in toronto. Had an internship at the edge, and spent alot of time there. This doesn't prove anything but there were always jokes about how Greig Nori was into little boys....i taught it was just rumors but I was really shocked to see this so many years later....
He definitely gave me weird vibes
This story highlights the issue of powerful figures in the music industry abusing their positions of trust and the need to protect artists from such behavior. These predators are placed high on pedestals, while whispers of their crimes circulate behind the scenes. Shame on the media for ignoring and hiding these stories as was done in the case of Sean Combs
@brianhouston6984 you're 100% right, honestly I was a kid then and did not know how to navigate those jokes/whispers, but if I ever see that around me now as an adult I'm fuckin sounding the bullhorn
I'm more than halfway through the book so far. It's a great read, but tough to read when he describes Nori's abuse and behaviour. No wonder the majority of "Chuck" was so dark...Deryck was dealing with so much ("I'm Not The One" and "Open Your Eyes" are direct shots at Nori).
#ENDGANGLIFER #THREEHOURGANG
It's insane to me that people still want to be rockstars and whatnot in the major label entertainment industry hollywood etc etc type shit scene.
I mean, no scene is ever entirely safe, but holy shit the world of famous people is just disgusting.
It really is. They think they are above it all
The only difference between grooming and coercion is context. I'm glad he got his story out.
more proof he would of been a better lead singer for linkin park
I thought you were going to say the band has been doing wrong.
edit: i lol lmaoed before watching the video. i un-lol un-lmao. Power to Deryck.
I'm from Switzerland and I know about Treble Charger because Sum41, along with other artists, once made a Cameo in one of their videos.
Greig Nori always tried to make himself look younger, it was pathetic. A 40 year old dressing like a 21 year old
I like the kitty in the background
I’d love it if Derek sat down with you!
Lol that would rule
Wow thanks for sharing
That’s so sad 😢
Super sad yep
Yo if this guy tried to kiss me in a bathroom stall before in supposed to be doing acid….
BAD TRIP ALERT! VIBES ALL BAD! ANXIETY POPPIN OFF!
Maybe thats the straight white male in my soul leeching out, but I’d be hella uncomfortable and feeling horrible leading into the trip.
And I’ve never done any of those drugs in my life, so this would be the most panic attack inducing scenario you could possibly try psychedelics in, in my opinion.
Dude might as well have pulled out a loaded gun in the bathroom stall
I do like the cover of his book. It’s a great shot!
Yeah it's sweet
I know about gob, but I don't know about treble charger.
Just the way nature intended
End Gang! Poor Deryck the music industry really is evil at times.
Diabolical yup
just wait 'til Justin Bieber's tell-all autobiography comes out...
3:40 whoa
Fricked
So Treble Charger were really more like Rancid.
Treble Chomos
yikes, man.
this explains why he was drinking so much all those years ago.
just terrible stuff all around. . .
kinda seems like your making it look like deryek was the one being accused with the thumbnail not cool man
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Dan you need to change the channel title to “Dan Frampton Ruins Punk Rock” 😆
lol ooooook
@@danframpt0nI thought this would be be an allegation on Sum 41 not the opposite
Holy shit, this is awful
Truly awful
yes ill never EVER EVER EVER downplay sexual vaolations, it will never be normal and its always evil, i will not like 2 many ppl downplay it heres ur pancakes 🥞 none of them were molested while being made cuz they were made with love
You rule thank u
So sad. I really liked Sum 41 they were a great, entertaining and fun group!
I hope this groomer predator goes to jail hopefully this will expose him
right on
First 3 hours , let's go! Also, poor Sum 41 dude...
3 hour gang getting strong
Did I make the 3 hour gang?
Not quite lol
Oh man…. What
I knooooow
Dude you’re gunna have 20k subs before the end of the year! I know it
oooo eee that would be crazzzzy
Whoaa not checked in in a while, nice work on the sub count😃
Damn, I guess that explains the intense alcoholism
did Greig ever say anything to you? Was he like that or is this totally shocking to you as you knew him
He's was just weird and pushy when I was around him
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I been extremely intererested in the P. Diddy story thats been going on lately. I see a lot of similarities in the Treble Charber grooming of Sum41 with P. Diddy & Usher grooming Justin Beiber. Its really starting to seem like everyone who made it big in.mainstream.was.groomed & molested. Or worst.
Age of consent in Canada (at that time) was 14.
Go away
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It’s a relevant fact.
The grooming problem in music in everywhere across every genre. Makes you wonder and more and more is coming out all the time.
2:53 crazy
Agreed
I just remembered Treble Charger. I wished I didn't. Let’s be real, rock stars in their true form will never be a thing again with social media trackinbg everyone. It sums up why Sleep Token and Ghost are massive because you can't attach their own faces to any brands or celeb magazines. We'll be seeing more masks and costumes in the future, hence why Slipknot will regenerate again and again.
There's a solid thesis in there 👌
I didn't know the sum 41 guy was gay. The more you know🤷🏿♀️
That's a wild take away
Being assaulted doesn't determine your sexuality.
@@c19xxc73 if you listen to the story, it explains that they went on to have a relationship. That's gay as shit.
@@DeltresePshanks The only thing that would make a man gay is enjoying and consenting to sex with another man. If it is not consensual then that has nothing to do with his sexuality. Or any guy going through the same thing. In saying that, you're implying (whether intentional or not) that rape is a type of sex which in itself is honestly disgusting and shameful. Do better.
@@c19xxc73 it was consensual. Listen to the story again. It's cool if you're gay. I just didn't know he was gay. Also, the guy's jaw should have been broken instantly. But the guy kissed back. That's gay as hell. Now, you're gay. There's nothing wrong with it.
Treble Charger rings a bell, I think they were on the bill of a show I saw a long time ago. You would think with a name like that, they would be a butt rock band.
Yay!! I’m 3h gang!!!
Boom
I thought treble charger was a total poser band. they went from sounding like shoe gaze garbage to pop punk wannabes.
I could never get past his hair and belt buckle combo
Bill Priddle wrote the actually good songs
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4:56 omg what! You know that dude…. That’s crazy
I met him a couple times during The Dean Project days
Can you do another follow up on anti flag. Was trying to find out what happened to all.those A-Holes but everything is 6 months old.
I haven't heard any new news unfortunately. I'll dig around
I guess Im the first here… you should check out Santa Ana punk band Tozcos. You might fuck with it.
I'll add it to the que. Thanks for the recco
I love when mick makes the video
Lol same
One day I will be End Gang. One day...
How do you know Greig Nori? That should be a seperate video
There was like a music business school type thing that was run by Coalition Music in Toronto. Greig did a couple guest sessions. He even drove me home once. Weird times.
Talking about allegations AND the graffiti from hitman 3??? That IS some classic RUclips shit...
Wham danm thank you dan. ... who you got sum41 vs blink 182?
Blink 8 times out of ten
Sum 41 out number Blink by at least 2 guys. And Tom is in Gob. So. No chance, Blink is cooked. Like Travis is going to lift a finger. Those are for holding Kardashians now.
1 day and 3 hr gang!
Close enough lol
The cat is called Mick Foley!? That's sick!
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