Ichigo's Vasto Lorde & Hollow White : Kubo's Biggest Foreshadowing

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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024

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  • @manuelacosta9463
    @manuelacosta9463 2 года назад +34

    Isshin's intuition was spot on, he's a great fighter, Shinigami and father/doctor. His goofy side is certainly to keep a sense of unity and lightheartedness with his family and others after enduring the loss of Masaki. Still seeing Ichigo go absolutely berserk in Hueco Mundo will always be both badass and chilling. Ichigo's Hollow side will always be quite the wild card, a very scary and dangerous one.

    • @rogue1248
      @rogue1248 2 года назад +3

      Isshin is a dad his children doesn't deserve, at least he was a good one that keeps the happiness of the Kurosaki family good.
      The Ishida are the complete opposite though.

  • @ryuzakisimms1019
    @ryuzakisimms1019 2 года назад +47

    Vasto Lorde Ichigo is my favorite form of Ichigo's aside from Final Getsuga Tenshō Ichigo. Proves how powerful Ulquiorra really was.

    • @daruqz2247
      @daruqz2247 2 года назад +7

      You know vasto lordes ( top 4 ) have a grand zero? Tey are not alowed to use it in hueco mundo, thats the same zero Ulquiorra used against Vasto Lorde Ichigo, and Ichigo over powered that by leaps with a normal zero. I think its reversed, and the fact that Ulquiorra was so strong and inteligect, while Vasto Lorde Ichigo was no more then a beast.

    • @procow2274
      @procow2274 2 года назад +3

      @@daruqz2247 he actually didn't use a gran ray cero against vasto lorde Ichigo he used a higher tier cero

    • @ryuzakisimms1019
      @ryuzakisimms1019 2 года назад

      @@procow2274 That is true. He did use a high level cero.

  • @smcmaison7845
    @smcmaison7845 2 года назад +16

    Stopping White and stopping Vasto Lorde Ichigo was different.
    When Ulquiorra stopped Vasto Lorde Ichigo, he was charging his cero through his horns to strike Uryu. By cutting one of the horns, the balance on that cero collapse and it explodes on its face breaking his mask. Just like any hollows, breaking its mask beats them.
    For stopping White, the explosion was not caused by Masaki attacking its horns. It is because of the false heart in White's hole that exploded after injecting Masaki with hollow venom.
    The false heart was a defense mechanism created by Aizen and gang called the Final Transfer. Even though they are letting White loose to infect shinigamis with hollowfication, they cant have countless hollowfied shinigamis wreaking havoc in the material world alerting the Gotei 13 of their schemes. The Final Transfer ensures that White only infect one soul with its hollowfication. Which is why after it infected Masaki, the heart explode killing White.

  • @zynergx6973
    @zynergx6973 2 года назад +48

    So to summarize,
    Fully Hollowfied Ichigo is basically the immeasurable power of a Vasto Lorde or higher, the survival instinct of an Adjuchas, and mindless mentality of a Gillian all molded into one 🤔

    • @cmbaz1140
      @cmbaz1140 2 года назад +10

      the embodiment of a hollow

    • @AlexESR71
      @AlexESR71 2 года назад +15

      I wouldn't really call it mindless, as he does do a couple clever things against Ulquiorra, which actually end up giving him the fight. Like countering cero oscuras with cero, just after Ulquiorra starts loading it up (decided to combat fire with fire rather than just going for a random slash), luring Ulquiorra upwards to then blitz him and actually grab his head the same way Ulquiorra did to Ichigo upon going segunda etapa (didn't really do any damage but still cool to see), and when he threw that boulder at Ulquiorra, he didn't just do it randomly, he used it as a decoy to surprise him and throw him off guard and push for that final slash.
      Lastly, it dodges that lanza del relampago, which you could argue it was more of Ulquiorra missing his target, but to give Ulquiorra some points there, lanza del relampago might be powerful enough that even the vasto lorde has to dodge at that moment. Mainly because Ulquiorra does manage to cut his horn off with a luz de luna (much less lethal than lanza), telling us that unless the vasto is aware of the attack and defends properly against it, it will have to dodge it, even though the vasto does crush it later on, it's very clear it might have been due to either the use of hierro (a very powerful one) or even a very early manifestation of blud veine (hence Ulquiorra's disbelieve on him grabbing it bare handed). As in, it is aware of an attack being a threat, and reacts accordingly, either by dodging or defending against it, something a gillian just won't do.
      My point with this is it's very hard to actually summarize the vasto lorde's nature. Specially with how very little material we have.

    • @muchoyurdem5260
      @muchoyurdem5260 2 года назад +11

      @@AlexESR71 So true. I dont get why many call White a mindless beast, it's literally proven otherwise against Ulquiorra like you mentioned. Also if i remember correctly even Isshin was complimenting his fighting style back then

    • @KennedyMKool
      @KennedyMKool 2 года назад

      No. Vasto is a shinigami. You must defeat a shinigami with no weak "point" vs a vasto

    • @zynergx6973
      @zynergx6973 2 года назад +1

      @@KennedyMKool Yeah I know it's a culmination of shinigami souls, I was just describing its Hollow-like behavior and classification features.

  • @24KLuxury
    @24KLuxury 2 года назад +9

    I would have loved to see VL Ichigo in TYBW. In my opinion, if Ichigo is fully in control of his power he’d be able to unlock his VL form just like how he can control bankai.

    • @muchoyurdem5260
      @muchoyurdem5260 2 года назад +2

      I don't think he has his Vasto form anymore

    • @ImlikeHIGHHH
      @ImlikeHIGHHH 2 года назад +4

      he won't unlock vl anymore b/c he fully accepted his hollow form. That's why his fullbring bankai, he wears his hollow powers. He no longer needs to call upon the mask and the VL transformation.

    • @Theaviator548
      @Theaviator548 2 года назад +1

      @@ImlikeHIGHHH good point there

    • @liltrippy8599
      @liltrippy8599 2 года назад +1

      @Coke Weasel Well it was said that Hell Ichigo mastered all of his race abilities, so we could assume he has full control of his hollow powers currently at that arc.

  • @kprojectskurt
    @kprojectskurt 2 года назад +3

    Thank you for making it clear that is form is not really called "Vasto Lorde" but "Full Hollow"

  • @Yuuyori
    @Yuuyori 2 года назад +1

    Thought you already made a video on this, this has been widely covered forever

  • @watcher314159
    @watcher314159 2 года назад +3

    Kubo's biggest foreshadowing is actually on page 13 of Chapter 1. Karin foreshadows Ichigo's fourfold soul, and even hints at Old Man Zangetsu being the one with the Almighty, White's invasive nature, the nature of Fullbring, and the noble Shiba bloodline.

  • @KON853
    @KON853 2 года назад +49

    Y'all notice that Ichigo's Fullbring Bankai zanpakuto is literally whites arms? Also Ichigo's complete Fullbring absorbed alone is enough for Ginjo to hold his own against a Fullbring Bankai Ichigo who had the power of all the captains and luitenants. Honestly I think complete fullbring Ichigo is stronger than Vasto Lorde.

    • @sh4d0wfl4re
      @sh4d0wfl4re 2 года назад +8

      I always assumed that Fullbring and Dangai Ichigo were similarly powerful, and that both were above the Vasto Lord/Resurrección form. I was always uncertain whether true shikai Ichigo was slightly abover final getsuga tier or true bankai was, but every new form after the Vasto Lord was at least that powerful (and without the blind rage debuff)

    • @bigghurt187
      @bigghurt187 2 года назад +6

      Ichigo didn't have his fullbring anymore when he fought Ginjo. Only soul reaper, Ginjo took all his fullbring power which is why he couldn't see Rukia or any of the captain's until he was givin the soul reaper powers because Ginjo took it all

    • @ObsidionshadowX
      @ObsidionshadowX 2 года назад +6

      @@bigghurt187 I have a little bit of a fun theory though, considering ichigo's part Quincy, maybe he'd always be able to regain his powers if he'd had learned how to better manipulate those aspects of his powers.. like the ability the absorb riatsu from the air.

    • @KON853
      @KON853 2 года назад +5

      @@sh4d0wfl4re yeah the Fullbringers are really underrated. I mean Ginjo and Tsukishima atleast. Seriously lemme remind you that post timeskip Byakuya was struggling against tsukishima who was holding his own against complete Fullbring Ichigo. This is the same Byakuya who along with Kenpachi, took down Yammy, the zero Espada, and in Resureccion no less with ease. And Fullbring Byakuya is much stronger than Arrancar arc kenpachi and his past self so I think Ginjo and tsukishima are easily above Vasto Lorde form aswell

    • @bigghurt187
      @bigghurt187 2 года назад +4

      @@ObsidionshadowX that would've been bad ass, I wish kubo would've included something like that in the arc. Damn just thinking about it is getting me hyped. Just imagining ichigo absorbing a shit load of riatsu then using getsuga tensho to amplify that sheesh.

  • @animestand
    @animestand 2 года назад +1

    Another great video... You make some of the best bleach contents on RUclips.

  • @jayjackson5799
    @jayjackson5799 2 года назад +3

    Maybe Ichigo Mom looking or dealing with that "rain" and "water story" in Ichigo's inner world again!?

    • @manuelacosta9463
      @manuelacosta9463 2 года назад

      That's a possibility given the connections between all involved. Rain is the theme in serious and gloomy situations involving the Kurosakis.

  • @shunkun8668
    @shunkun8668 2 года назад

    Hey Simo, unrelated to the video, but I just want to let you know that you're my favorite Bleach youtuber, I have notifications on for your videos, because I love what topics you cover and how you cover them!

  • @riicky83
    @riicky83 2 года назад +1

    For Vasto Lorde Ichigo, the horn issue could easily be down to the timing of its breakage as he was charging up a Cero when Ulquiorra broke one horn causing the cero to prematurely explode and breaking Ichigo's Hollow mask. White technically took a point-blank shot to the head meaning his death was most likely due to severe/fatal brain trauma.

  • @nicolaemihai3581
    @nicolaemihai3581 2 года назад +1

    at 4:13 it looks like White has bolt-in shoes

  • @ObsidionshadowX
    @ObsidionshadowX 2 года назад +3

    You're right, though it's technically called Resurrection officially. But yes, you have to consider that because his Hollow powers took full control, it tapped into said ability.. which is basically a hollow transformation/ form that is similar to that of the original Hollows before the soul king divided the world apart, with power equivalent to or greater than that. Or at the very least, that of the level of Segunda Etapa (A second release of Resurrection, which by the way, Kubo stated all Espada and Vizards are capable of attaining.)
    So technically, yes, he did take on the form of a Vasto Lorde. Lol

  • @teslercoil5174
    @teslercoil5174 2 года назад +1

    The vasto lord form should be basically considered the resurrection of white.

  • @Deadlift4chips
    @Deadlift4chips 2 года назад

    loving this back to back drop btw.

  • @juelzr1631
    @juelzr1631 2 года назад +5

    You should do a video on arturo plateado he is an arrancar that is is only 2 bleach games he has an interesting story

    • @simourahara
      @simourahara  2 года назад +1

      Thanks, I'll think about it.

  • @zarmanavice4488
    @zarmanavice4488 2 года назад

    Awesome video, I love your content

  • @AJLaz000
    @AJLaz000 2 года назад +5

    I have this headcanon of Masaki being able to communicate freely with White when he was inside her while Isshin's Reiatsu is separating them as to not kill Masaki, similar to how Tailed beasts are characterized to be imprisoned inside Jinchurikis. The difference being that White literally doesn't know anything and Masaki was the one that taught him how to think and speak, essentially treating him as if he is her own child, eventually having befriended him and when she got pregnant with Ichigo, White was the one who actually suggested to leave her body so she could live normally but somehow is still able to communicate with him even though he is already inside Ichigo's body. And so when she died her last words to him were "please, protect my son" and White was like "I gotchu, Queen. I will turn this wimp into a KING".

  • @noneyabidness9644
    @noneyabidness9644 2 года назад

    Yes, Ichigo became a vasto lorde.
    All hollows were/are humans who had a part of their soul eaten (Like Ichigo), but because Ichigo is also a shinigami, he's able to transform back.

  • @md.tanvirhasananik3717
    @md.tanvirhasananik3717 2 года назад

    White was surely high captain lvl during fight with ishin. He should be around VL lvl.

  • @gagogagos2265
    @gagogagos2265 2 года назад +1

    Me gusta tus videos de bleach.Saludos!

  • @gabrielrasilva
    @gabrielrasilva 2 года назад

    Sooo Ichigo Is White rencarnated, when Ichigo gained arrancar (vizards for the weakmindeds) powers the part of his soul that is turned in the blade is the "stinct"

  • @alsimmonshellspawn6021
    @alsimmonshellspawn6021 2 года назад

    White is a generically gifted hollow like broly

  • @hollowify_tensa_zangetsu
    @hollowify_tensa_zangetsu 2 года назад

    Wasnt ywhbach in the clip is while he is in soul society?

  • @theshowtime4123
    @theshowtime4123 2 года назад +1

    I have an unrelated question. Aren’t the requirements for someone to be a Soul King in Bleach a human/shingami/hollow being? If so, then how did they use the remnants of Yhwach’s power and made it a Soul King.

    • @Nerthos
      @Nerthos 2 года назад

      If I remember correctly, Ywach was directly related to the soul king and had inherited a similar nature, that's why he could be a soul king

    • @theshowtime4123
      @theshowtime4123 2 года назад

      @@Nerthos Then why didn’t one of the descendants of Yhwach inherit shingami/hollow/human powers except Ichgio?

    • @christiandelacruz6619
      @christiandelacruz6619 2 года назад

      didn't he like absorbed the Soul King?

    • @theshowtime4123
      @theshowtime4123 2 года назад

      @@christiandelacruz6619 Yes, actually he did, I just remembered that fact, but I still want to know why is Ichigo the only one to have shingami/hollow/human powers? Is it because Yhwach knew about White and wanted Ichigo to inherit these powers so that he becomes stronger?

    • @Nerthos
      @Nerthos 2 года назад +1

      @@theshowtime4123 blood thinning I'd say, over the generations. Plus the absorbing thing someone else mentioned.

  • @ektran4205
    @ektran4205 2 года назад

    sliver blood clots on masaki

  • @marcellinosmith2259
    @marcellinosmith2259 2 года назад

    Know one now's how strong is white zeangetsu 🤔🤔

  • @rbq426
    @rbq426 2 года назад

    Issen is a doctor. A healer? We will see ichigo has ability to heal or heal himself

    • @christiandelacruz6619
      @christiandelacruz6619 2 года назад +2

      He already has the ability to heal like are we just gonna forget that Zangetsu was able to heal Ichigo's heart a high speed regeneration more advance than Ulquiorra's. Ichigo just refuses to learn more about his Hollow powers

  • @Maxjuliann
    @Maxjuliann 2 года назад +1

    Vasto lorde > 6 tails naruto

  • @zombiedemon1762
    @zombiedemon1762 2 года назад +1

    I want Vasto Lorde Orihime to exist in Bleach.
    And I want it to look like a hot kawaii gender bent version of Ichigo's Vasto Lorde form.