Wasn't expecting any 890DR review beyond factory vids given the current situation. So a surprise, and excellent piece. Happened to go through the online configurator just last night, only picked the quickshifter option, should see what that track package really gives you. Thanks!
Starts video, hears aussie accent, then see $11,699 MSRP. Spits coffee all over screen in disbelief and reaches for phone to ring KTM dealer to put an order in! Then it dawns on me price is in US not AUD.....DOH!!!
You are awesome for reviewing for us this bike between all this messy month. I have a monster 821 and if Ducati doesnt step up, I will consider this one or a second hand Super Duke. Good job Rennie.
Tech pack (quickshifter+, track mode, etc) is $725, just bought my 890 yesterday. Tech pack, cruise control (requires a new control switch) and labor was $1155 altogether.
@@Daddy-Saxon Yes sir, they installed it at the dealer. I could have done it myself but I don't know if they would have sold the control switch to me, I didn't even ask
@@RUclips_Globetrotter Tech pack is a must, but I'll tell you what, the cruise control is really nice to have. I don't go on long trips or anything, but it's still nice to have on the highway or interstate to give my right hand a little break every now and then
@Quinn Dang well, at a EU dealership i am looking right now, the duke 790 is 9700 and the duke 890 is 12200 euros on which you need to add the quickshifter package in order to match the stock electronics of the 790 so i would say the difference would be closer to 3000 euros... it just moves it out of MT 09 and z900 price ranges... the 890 cannot compete with these prices from the japanese bikes...but the 790 can... and it has better electronics than them too...
Great review Rennie. Just got ours for dyno work and R&D and looking forward to getting some seat time on it! Heard nothing but good things about it and now we have one!
I would go with the KTM 890R. STriple 765 RS lacks in the electronics department a little bit (no IMU, lack of lean angle sensitive ABS and TC). However, If I had to choose between the Duke 790 and STriple 765 RS I would go with the STriple.
Armaan Soman exactly. And to follow up on that last point, the reason I'd go Steeet Triple RS over 790 Duke is because the 790 has worse brakes and non adjustable suspension compared to the Triple, but the handling is supposedly better. The 890 improves the brakes and suspension to be more in line with the Triumph while keeping the handling, making it the better bike in my eyes.
Thanks Remy, always great to hear your thoughts. At 170cm I’m small in stature so I’ve always had supersport rather than superbikes. The 890R sounds perfect for me, although at 61yo I might be getting a little close to my use by date as far as sports bikes go. Stay safe over there during the pandemic; you’ve got a maniac at the helm.
Brother has an old 1290 and his partner has a 790 which they rip around Switzerland, Northern Italy on. If you live in the Burbs, the 890 looks to be more suited to urban commuting and ripping through the twisties on the weekend. Does the track pack give the 890 that much more performance?
Spec wise very similar to my 990 SD.. Would the electronics be a good enough excuse to upgrade anyway? Looking for opinions of people who actually rode both bikes.
good review, but those tires HATE water by definition. They are track day focused. So you had no issues in those wet spots because you were driving careful. Not because of the tires.
Carl G. I saw a 790 that the guy removed the heat shield painted it flat black and re-installed it. It looked a lot better. Less like a catfish sucking a pipe! Lol
Middleweight supersports are a dead category. Probably because the demographic of new bike buyers is aging, and by their 30s most riders have outgrown the idea of race replicas for road riding. Hence naked bikes and adventure bikes dominating the market and manufacturers focus. Regular track riders aren't a large enough group.
@@Joric78 I think its more to do with 600cc are expensive and only have any torque way high in the rev range.. I think most riders would go back to supersports if the engines were triple or even parallel twins like the new RS660.
Etyere Petyere have you not figured out the motorcycle industry yet ..??? And especially the marketing!!!?? It’s a bit like washing powder adverts .. every time a new washing powder comes out... it cleans “ much whiter”.. than the one before ... which was “much whiter”.. than the one before that .. and so on ... basically... they’ll say anything to get you to buy the next one out .. same with bikes ,cars ,phones .. etc... same principle really ..:-)))
@@dmandhelen god thank you ! This was really enlightening . I will change my ways . Fuck the new shit . Ill just do with whatever works from now on . I mean seriously. Thank you
actually the 1290 is very easy, very smooth, very controllable under 7000rpm. it’s only aggressive on your wallet if you don’t push it hard. i’ve had one for a year. do you know what you’re talking about?
That's why they make spray paint. I absolutely wouldn't let that from stopping me from owning this bike. I will buy one and duplicor the wheels dark bronze for about 15$.
Wasn't expecting any 890DR review beyond factory vids given the current situation. So a surprise, and excellent piece. Happened to go through the online configurator just last night, only picked the quickshifter option, should see what that track package really gives you. Thanks!
Starts video, hears aussie accent, then see $11,699 MSRP. Spits coffee all over screen in disbelief and reaches for phone to ring KTM dealer to put an order in! Then it dawns on me price is in US not AUD.....DOH!!!
You are awesome for reviewing for us this bike between all this messy month. I have a monster 821 and if Ducati doesnt step up, I will consider this one or a second hand Super Duke. Good job Rennie.
Tech pack (quickshifter+, track mode, etc) is $725, just bought my 890 yesterday. Tech pack, cruise control (requires a new control switch) and labor was $1155 altogether.
By labor you mean people putting it on right?
I took the tech pack too, but not the cruise controll
@@Daddy-Saxon Yes sir, they installed it at the dealer. I could have done it myself but I don't know if they would have sold the control switch to me, I didn't even ask
@@RUclips_Globetrotter Tech pack is a must, but I'll tell you what, the cruise control is really nice to have. I don't go on long trips or anything, but it's still nice to have on the highway or interstate to give my right hand a little break every now and then
@@blackoutblaze how much does cruise control cost? I had no clue it was separate from the tech pack
Correction it is not a 790 Duke replacement ,nice vid cheers .
@Quinn Dang well, at a EU dealership i am looking right now, the duke 790 is 9700 and the duke 890 is 12200 euros on which you need to add the quickshifter package in order to match the stock electronics of the 790 so i would say the difference would be closer to 3000 euros... it just moves it out of MT 09 and z900 price ranges... the 890 cannot compete with these prices from the japanese bikes...but the 790 can... and it has better electronics than them too...
@@DrenTazz is it true that you can't turn off the anti wheelie on the 890 r?
Definitely making the 790 obsolete, unless KTM puts the price around the 7-8k range.
Great review Rennie. Just got ours for dyno work and R&D and looking forward to getting some seat time on it! Heard nothing but good things about it and now we have one!
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If it handles anything like my 690 Duke R it would be a winner.
Remy.....lovely review, as always.....apart from the 'this thing' overuse. Keep up the good work, mate.
Bloody great review. Keep 'em coming.
CANT WAIT TO SEE THE 890 DUKE vs STREET 765 comparo ...😍😍😍😍
Will wait and see if this bike has any issues [like many KTM's have done in the past].
Nice review & a seemingly awesome bike. Surely this is going to be the perfect road bike & the naked middleweight hooligan king.
ktm 890r vs street triple 765 rs?
In the works...
Ktm 890r vs Hypermotard?
I would go with the KTM 890R. STriple 765 RS lacks in the electronics department a little bit (no IMU, lack of lean angle sensitive ABS and TC). However, If I had to choose between the Duke 790 and STriple 765 RS I would go with the STriple.
Janusz Piechówka Do you really need an Imu???
Armaan Soman exactly. And to follow up on that last point, the reason I'd go Steeet Triple RS over 790 Duke is because the 790 has worse brakes and non adjustable suspension compared to the Triple, but the handling is supposedly better. The 890 improves the brakes and suspension to be more in line with the Triumph while keeping the handling, making it the better bike in my eyes.
The 2020 KTM 890 DUKE R ought to light up the track!
#KTM #ReadyToRace
#Kiska #KiskaDesign
It's not a 790 replacement. That stays in the line up.
There is no 690 Duke anymore.
Yea the amount of wrong info in this intro was stunning, also none of the bodywork is new, the engine isn't new etc etc
Thorough review Rennie. Sounds much better than it reads on paper. Didn't think I'd feel like trading up from my 790 - But... 🤔😂
It went from 690 to 790 and now 890 in 3 years
It's more like 3 separate engines. Not just numbers.
Lifted_Above 790 and 890 are pretty much the same engine
Awesome review & video!
If this feels as good as the 2020 Super Duke handling wise, then it's a RIPPER!
It weighs less than the 790, which weighed about 60 pounds less than the prior 1290. So I'd say yeah.
If feels far more agile, you can't compare the SDR vs the 890R
@@dannygernaat9961 I've ridden one since, and yes, they are comparable, but obviously with far less weight the 890R is that much more nimble
Have you tested the MV Agusta Brutale 800 RR? Would love to see what you'd prefer.
Thanks Remy, always great to hear your thoughts. At 170cm I’m small in stature so I’ve always had supersport rather than superbikes. The 890R sounds perfect for me, although at 61yo I might be getting a little close to my use by date as far as sports bikes go. Stay safe over there during the pandemic; you’ve got a maniac at the helm.
Senile slip, sorry Rennie. Just call me Bill.
If you are 61 you should get the 1290...
Brother has an old 1290 and his partner has a 790 which they rip around Switzerland, Northern Italy on. If you live in the Burbs, the 890 looks to be more suited to urban commuting and ripping through the twisties on the weekend. Does the track pack give the 890 that much more performance?
Great review, thanks.
Good review Rennie. What's better ktm890 or Triumph 765rs? 👍🇦🇺🍺
Not sure yet. Haven't ridden the 765 RS. But we'll be throwing them together for a test, for sure.
@@cyclenews can't wait awesome👍
Spec wise very similar to my 990 SD.. Would the electronics be a good enough excuse to upgrade anyway? Looking for opinions of people who actually rode both bikes.
Excellent review
Replacement for the Duke 790? I don't think so. The 790 will still be available.
I should have been more specific. The 790 Duke is still available, I meant this was the replacement as the main middleweight bike from KTM. My bad.
Great bike but the amount of issues i hear that they have makes ot pretty hard to pull thw trigger.
wondering how is this bike compare with the mt09sp?
my restricted is going to end by the end of the year, can wait to switch to a bigger bike
good review, but those tires HATE water by definition. They are track day focused. So you had no issues in those wet spots because you were driving careful. Not because of the tires.
I rather take duke 790 in black, look better and much cheaper🤙
Only if you're on a budget.
Nice take,thks.
Looks a great bike but how reliable are KTM’s ?
Reliable enough to make KTM the biggest motorcycle manufacturer from Europe
RealOrbit - Australia that’s a bit strange cos the figures say that KTM came 8th with 62,185 sales in 2019...🤔🤔🤔🤔
The ones made in Europe were hit n miss build wise... production has switched to India.
Draw your own conclusions...
Forty Four ..Does that mean better or worse then ???? Because that ...Realorbit.. obviously thinks they’re made well !!!🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😁😁😁😁😁
@@dmandhelen , only the small capacity bikes are made in india..all the other variants are straight from Austria..
1200$ canadian dollars for all the upgrades + cruise control
Super bike I love it bro
Can you imagine sticking a set of carbon fiber wheels on this thing?! Would feel like a mountain pedal bike.
What road were you riding?
does it come with quick shifter as standard ?
Not as standard. It's an accessory.
how much is the track package
tech pack (track mode) is an option and cost an extra $1200!! why isn't that mentioned??? bad review..
How does the power compare to the MT 09?
Haven't ridden them back-to-back, but the KTM claims about 15 hp more than the Yamaha at 120 hp.
duke890 or z900?
890 looks great from off the bike, but dam the riding view looks awful. Is that a mobile phone with antenna indicators hanging off
This is what we use. www.sena.com/product/10c-evo
Fuzzy, Mic cover stops wind noise.
9:15 COVID-19 didn't ruin our lives - our governments did.
890 duke r or mt 09sp?
Alexandr Nikiti that isn’t a real question isn’t. KTM all the way and this from a Street triple owner
@@Cressfromhell decided to sell my speed triple to get mt10 just saying
The tailpipe looks like a dirt bike pipe, to me it's cheap looking, other than that I like this 890 👍🏽
Who keeps it stock in the first place right?
@@TheKniperlight aw we meet again
Looks a fuck ton better then a huge stock ugly can that most bikes come with.
Carl G. I saw a 790 that the guy removed the heat shield painted it flat black and re-installed it. It looked a lot better. Less like a catfish sucking a pipe! Lol
@@wirenut3020 I agree, flat black will change my mind about it.
JUKE
When will they start putting these awesome engines into fully faired sportbikes? Getting pretty tired of the endless naked fad.
Agreed, KTM ought to make a RC 790 or 890.
Middleweight supersports are a dead category. Probably because the demographic of new bike buyers is aging, and by their 30s most riders have outgrown the idea of race replicas for road riding. Hence naked bikes and adventure bikes dominating the market and manufacturers focus. Regular track riders aren't a large enough group.
RS660 might be your ticket?
Sport bikes are completely impractical for 90% of road riding.
@@Joric78 I think its more to do with 600cc are expensive and only have any torque way high in the rev range.. I think most riders would go back to supersports if the engines were triple or even parallel twins like the new RS660.
05:01 Funny the 1290 is one of the most aggressive bike in its class . I guess you have no clue what you are talking about
Etyere Petyere have you not figured out the motorcycle industry yet ..??? And especially the marketing!!!?? It’s a bit like washing powder adverts .. every time a new washing powder comes out... it cleans “ much whiter”.. than the one before ... which was “much whiter”.. than the one before that .. and so on ... basically... they’ll say anything to get you to buy the next one out .. same with bikes ,cars ,phones .. etc... same principle really ..:-)))
@@dmandhelen hahahaha great explanation and its always the case. no bad new bike until the next gen ,so the previous gen would be crap..😂😂😂
@@dmandhelen god thank you ! This was really enlightening . I will change my ways . Fuck the new shit . Ill just do with whatever works from now on . I mean seriously. Thank you
actually the 1290 is very easy, very smooth, very controllable under 7000rpm. it’s only aggressive on your wallet if you don’t push it hard. i’ve had one for a year. do you know what you’re talking about?
Superduke 1290 brutal and raw ✊🔥Mt 09 smoth and boring😩
Man those roads are sketch. So much debris. I wouldn’t feel comfortable leaning much on those roads.
No, i need 220-HP on my Ducati StreetFighter!!! Was tired of lack of top-end power on the 1290-SDR, life begins above 125-mph
Where -- in jail?
Life begins at 299kph s1KRR for life 🤙
Me thinks the ZH2 with a pipe and flash will be the one to beat.
Lifted_Above me thinks when the new s1KR comes out it will be epic all the power all the electronics 👌
Superduke 1290 brutal and raw, 🔥new sf look like japanese and no grunt under 8000 👎
Absolutely crappy audio
Brilliant machine but looks like a cheap Chinese learner bike!👎
Ugly as a sheila dressed like mutton pretending she's lamb.
After riding the Ducati StreetFighter V-4S , everything else is irrelevant!!!
240+ whp ZH2 disagrees, and the Kawasaki will be WAAYYY less expensive.
Saw it yesterday, looks cheap with those fruity orange wheels!!
I agree, shame about the orange rims and pity this is the only color option offered but sounds like it's an awesome package though.
That's why they make spray paint. I absolutely wouldn't let that from stopping me from owning this bike. I will buy one and duplicor the wheels dark bronze for about 15$.