These stories are nonsensical but this makes perfect sense, Jasons killed before, they've had it out before and batman feels like a fool for trusting Jason, Damians his son and still growing as a person.
Leopluridon666 Batman let Jason suffer and die alone and then when he came back, he gave him crap because of killing bad guys when he knew damn well the world would be better without them. Damian has been killing people ( good and bad) since he was born and Batman barely does anything about it. Clearly he has it out for Jason. He always has.
@@felicitykibaya3602 To my understanding, "Let" is not what happened, he was trying to find him and after he died and came back, he began murdering folks after he had been robin, haven given him the info on why murder bad. Not to say that killing folks is a bad thing, the world we clearly be better off without them. Damien on the other hand was born into the league of shadows and taught to kill from birth, so there's some deprogramming to do there, he's gone on and off with the murdering but then, he's a child who hasn't matured enough to solidify in his ways. Once again I'll say that Damien is Batmans son.
@@nasirwright2184 You know what, I’m gonna say it. Fuck. Dark. Nights. Seriously, fuck everything about the Batman Who Laughs and all the nonsensical horseshit that came with it. The entire arc was nothing but one long painfully drawn out Batwank circle jerk. Batman Who Laughs somehow has more plot armor than the original Batman who is nothing but plot armor. If they didn’t very purposefully dumb down and nerf literally all of the other Justice League members the Batman Who Laughs saga would have been a panel long and consisted entirely of Superman, Wonder Woman, The Flash and Martian Manhunter drawing straws to see who has to mop up the giant red stain on the wall that at one point was Batman.
Glad Red Hood finally pulled the trigger, but he was right it seemed like Batman never hit Joker that hard, I mean dang he broke Jason bullet proof mask of the first hit and then kept hitting with that same fury.
If you read or remember death in the family Batman encountered The Joker after Jason's death. He was going to murder the Joker and Superman had to talk him out of it. And even then at the end Batman and Joker were on a helicopter about to crash and explode and Batman made no effort to save The Joker's life (although he excuses himself with saying he had no time and could only save himself. And if we're talking about hypocrites the biggest ones are the ones who accuse others without realizing they are one themselves.
Because it was Batman disciplining his son. It hurts alot more as a parent when your child fucks up big time then when an insane Clown serial killer pisses you off
WE LOVE The Winnik version! Or even the Tan/Morrison version w/ the outfit & Pill Head (from B&R vol.1 / 4-6) .. NOT THIS LAME WHINY VERSION W/ THE STUPID LOOKING BROWN LEATHER JACKET THAT'S TWO SIZES 2 SMALL! WTF DC... & *WHY DOESN'T HE TELL US THE NUMBERS OF THE COMICS IN THE ARC?* He wrecks the story imo, Than nobody buys the books in reprocussion. *IS THAT WHY HE DOESN'T MENTION the COMIC #'s ?*
That was him as Robin. At the time they couldn't stand the kid that replaced Dick because in their eyes no one could ever top Dick as Robin. Now that he's this edgy badass that was trained by assassins and all that he's liked by so many.
Of all the robins he kinda is, Dick and Tim are often portrayed as the perfect boys and damian is an edge lord trained by Ra's Al Ghul so yeah Jason is the most relatable
@rorik druagr Because dressing up in a superhero costume is relatable. Do I really need to say, why it's stupid to question comic book logic? It obviously means his *character* is relatable.
yea he's the relatable Robin, since he's the only one that grew up in poverty while always being compared to Dick and Tim cuz in the early days he was the odd one out, Dick is the world's greatest acrobat and Tim's from a high class family also a genius, Jason was just an outcast on the streets. He earned his place now after going through hell in the comic world AND the real world to get here
So, you can kill if it is not public? Hmm. Damien killed Nobody, Jason killed a diplomat's rapacious son in '87, Batwoman killed, and now Jason kills Penguin. But the murders by Damien and Batwoman are okay because they are private? How many murders has Batman covered up for his allies?
Damian was raised a killer and batwoman's intentions were different. This was a Jason ignoring his development, taking what Batman stands for (what jason once stood for) and saying f#\*k it my revenge is morw important than those that go above and beyond for me. It hits closer to home i guess...
You'd think he'd try to question and demand to know why Jason even shot Penguin to begin with. Jason has proved before that his actions are well thought out and precise like when he shot the mayor only for it to all be a ruse to save the mayor and still keep up the reputation as the big bad red hood. You'd think after a case like that would lead Batman, the freaking detective, to first question his actions instead of letting his anger take hold of him and going straight in to beat the crap out of his own son who didn't even fight back. That's not the Batman I know. They have been messing his character up a lot lately. Especially when it comes to his own kids. It frustrates me to no end.
@@riripari2042 totally agree with you. He never even asked and started bashing the hell out of Jason. I love batman but god I hated him during that fight. Plus SPOILER ALERT !!!! Penguin didnt die somehow lol
bro, they need to make a red-hood live action movie. it'd be so good, and yeah I like new style of red-hood, but the only thing i don't like about this issue is that he didn't land a single blow on batman
Wow, Jason Todd really gets a rough threatment by batman in this one, didn't even try to talk to him. I get it, he was overtaken by rage, but seriously. Jason's base imploded with his friends in it, killing them for all batman knew, and he still beat the hell out of him. I really feel like the writers like to make Jason's life mizerable, suprised he isn't a depressed drunk at the end of this story.
Jason Todd just doesn't have that steel will like Batman, he already struggles trying to make sense of how things should go, and while he did made the promise, it's one that is already a challenge to fulfill due to him already believing deep down that all the scums that made the world ugly deserve to die. He was definitely pushed seeing Penguin with a look that only shows that he will never change. He didn't even get a chance to explain himself that the Penguin was connected to his father who died by his schemes a long time ago.
Yup I also hate that he lost to her that's bull his a member of the league of assacine and has thought batman on equal terms in under the hood. So why can't he take on Bruce's lackys
Thats why i like redhood. He kills bad guys when he needs to, instead of creating a cycle like batman does where the bad guys go in and out of prison with no real repercussion. Plus as a character he's more interesting.
Hopefully it's just an arc and Jason gets better again. Good guys who arent under the authority of a higher power and hiding their identity shouldn't take the law into their own hands. And in my book Jason is a Good guy but making some poor decisions.
Damien has a literal *torture dungeon* Jason shot a criminal boss that had killed 100s of innocents and was even taunting him about his dead dad. Of course Bruce would attack Jason. Even though Jason is a better and more interesting character than half the bat family.
@@passingbycommentor he’s certainly more of a hero then Bruce is. He does more good then Bruce does. In weeks of Coming back from the dead, he was able to lower the crime rate by a significant margin. Even in this run, we are shown that Bruce doesn’t have a code, he has a weakness. He hits Jason harder then he ever hits the joker, despite the joker killing more. There’s not even a reason to keep them alive. You keep them alive because they might repent and turn their lives around, but Batman is shown not to believe that all of them are worthy of good.
I Like that idea of Jason's Dad being someone who got his ass kicked by Batman while working for every major Villain there is..... Wait..... They.... They......... killed Penguin?
@@JoshMC2000 yes i remember that, thats why i miss the post crisis version of Batman, the one who actually cares for all of his children and not this version who only truly cares about Damian and treats the other Robins as just students, like whats happening to Tim Drake and Cassandra Cain right now
Right Damian grabs different villains and places them into his personal dark dungeon and Red Hood just kills won villain and he becomes enraged ready to destroy his foster son
As The live action Teen Titan robin said: “Fck batman” Jason just injured one person badly And that is penguin As explain in the new Outlaws that the bullet is blank... even for the greatest detective alove batman sure sucks at controlling his emotion That Suddenly batman goes to Take Jason down like never been seen before As Jason even say Do you punch joker that hard Damn Bruce For all the innocent they have kill and so on Bruce would do that to Jason Theoretically his own Son (adopted)
That’s because he’s tired of putting faith that Jason will get better. Time and time again Batman has forgiven Jason in hope that Jason will eventually stop trying to kill people but Jason is just keeps betraying that trust. Besides, Joker is just a clown in a colorful suit while Jason is a master martial artist who’s in full body armor. A punch like that would have killed the Joker.
@@trevordavis6830 you're funny not knowing the things joker can survive but lemme tell you this STOP VIEWING IN BATS SHOES BUT JASON THE MAN WENT THRU A LOT OF PAIN N SUFFERING BATS IS A HYPOCRITICAL ASS
Diedkid 145 jason said he never planned to kill the penguin just to make his empire crumbled And just because Jason is a master martial arts doesn’t he can felt pain or injury The joker is a psychopath deserves to be dead
Batman is my favorite hero but I disagree with him here if anyone should relate to Jason it's him and he found out valuable information on his father's death and witnessed bizaro and Artemis vanish and all batman did was beat on him for killing penguin publically
Bruce is in the right. Jason killed penguin not to save people but to feel better. He through every chance Bruce has given to him back in his face. Bruce can relate but he'd never through morals away just to make him feel better
Bill The Bull Gates let someone kill ur father see if u react the same for all u thinking it’s so easy Jason did not deserve a beating that bad for killing a criminal it’s against Batman’s morals not Jason’s , Jason even said he never hit joker that hard Bruce is wrong here
Bruce isn't wrong. You can never justify killing. I'm not taking away why Jason did what he did but it doesn't make it okay. Anyone would have reacted just like Jason and there is consequences for that.
I wanted rose to show up later and be like. I heared about what Bruce did I'll help you give him what's his just say the word. Also have say to his face that he treated Jason worse then Slade did her. I think that would be enough pay back also it would be humiliating for Bruce to not only get beat by Slade in the past but by his daughter. I think most his roughes would find that helerease also it would be cool to see them work togeather again. After all it was hinted at in new 52 but never shown
@@JoshMC2000 I've ALWAYS wanted Jason to team up or be romantic with either Rose Wilson [Pre 52/New 52], Artemis of Mighdall, and Cassandra Cain [Pre52! or Rebirth if she got back her Black Bat mantle cuz I don't like the name Orphan IMO it's meh or terrible] they all regardless if it's platonic or continuously romantic would have VERY intriguing yet complex dynamics with Jason whether he's a killer with a heart [like a mix of Pre52!/Under the Red Hood & Rebirth iterations of his character] or not. To me DC & Marvel tend to shy away from great character development opportunities for little reasons. Firing Dan Didio [who HATES Nightwing & I'd imagine other BatFam] would be nice but I digress. *Question: What if Renee Montoya AKA The Question became the "Oracle" of Outlaws Team comprised of: Jason Todd, Artemis of Mighdall, Rose Wilson, Bizzaro, Roy Harper, & Blackfire* would that be interesting? [Jason can have possible romantic yet complex dynamics with all those girls & to me he would end up settling with either Cass or Artemis of Mighdall or maybe Rose.] But now I just seem like a crazy Multi-Shipper 😂😋😏💞😂
So, Batman strikes down one of his own HARDER than he's ever hit the Joker? *To be fair, Jason was only referring to all of the times that he has seen Bruce hit the crazy clown. It's so frustrating like in Flash Season 4 when Ralph wanted to take the bus-meta that could go into pocket dimensions in order to kill DeVoe, but Barry was like no no we're not killers and then knocked out Ralph in one punch no hesitation (though it makes 0 sense how that even worked). I'm not saying heroes should be Injustice Superman-level murderers but at what point is enough enough?
I think why and how Barry not out Ralph is because of the Speed Force, yes the punch itself would normally not effect Ralph but it's like how Eobard killed Cisco in one timeline when Barry hit Ralph the speed vibrations mustive went threw his body to force him to get knocked out. And yes while I agree Super Heroes shouldn't be Injustice hardcore killing and in your own words "when is enough is enough" the funny thing is Super Heroes have killed alot the Super Sentai/Power Rangers sure they kill the monster of the week but the majority of the time when a Ranger team isn't a police force(three in Japan currently/a thief team at the same time in the 3rd case) but when American Super Heroes and in the same case in MHA Heroes are expected NOT TO KILL and get scrutinized even if the bad guy is a fucking monster kinda like in real life when Police are forced to kill Crimals in a gun fight while half the public agrees the rest are like "theirs always another way" type thing it's a weird thing so in a no killing rule theirs no right or wrong answer as long as one isn't being hypocritical about it like Bruce is here
+9752matt When Batman finally - FINALLY - broke Red Hood's mask off, he actually got a lot of respect from me. Finally, that insufferable wind bag got what he has deserved for years.
+9752matt Okay, so you're saying that Red Hood's methods are better than Batman's. How many times has Batman saved Gotham from one crisis or another? How many times has Red Hood? How many times has Batman, directly or indirectly saved the world, if not the multiverse? How many times has Red Hood? So, whose methods have been more successful overall? There's no need to do the math. Batman HAS saved far more lives in his time as a hero that Red Hood most probably ever will. But, to you, the moment Batman loses his temper and hits someone he TRUSTED, he stops being a hero? Even in Marvel, heroes who don't kill are held in higher regard than those who do. Spiderman is VERY big on his no-kill policy. Do you think he's less than Red Hood because he refuses to gun people down?
Jason Todd is one of those characters that has grown on me alot i just hope he doesn't turn into the dc version of the punisher im fine with him going the way it is cause its understandable i just don't want him to go that far gone and his redesign i do not mind it i just wish he kept the guns and the demolition toys
It’s definitely one of my favorite anime. When I started boxing I watched it when I wasn’t training and it helped me learn faster because the moves were so realistic. It was also super motivating.
People aren't mad about Batman's no kill rule, they're jason fangays and they're crying because Batman put Jason in his place, and proved to them that Jason can't beat Batman in a fair fight. 😂😂😂😂
Been a long time since I've been this invested in a comics collective main cast. Had to pause and pace around whilst self reflecting on how something could bring such happiness when red and arty tough punched.
Been waiting for another Jason Roy team up. Those two working together always feels like me and a buddy of mine... other than the explosions and body count.
I love how this feels like a season finale of a show. So many plotlines come to a head yet they leave cliffhangers to hype up the coming season (issue). Also a huge clash between Bruce and Jason, albeit brief but the artwork was top of the line.
HarleyxJoker FOREVER Redhood thinks his friends just died so I don't blame him for not being able to put on a fight. Also, Batman know that Jason is very hot headed and most times you can't reason with him. By the way he was dragging him across the rooftop I believe his plan was to knock him out and then talk with him in the Batcave.
@@jpereira011 i hardly think so, why tear appart the batsymbol off his chest in the street if he was going to take him to the batcave, i think he was taking him to black gate
You'd think he'd try to question and demand to know why Jason even shot Penguin to begin with. Jason has proved before that his actions are well thought out and precise like when he shot the mayor only for it to all be a ruse to save the mayor and still keep up the reputation as the big bad red hood. You'd think after a case like that would lead Batman, the freaking detective, to first question his actions instead of letting his anger take hold of him and going straight in to beat the crap out of his own son who didn't even fight back. That's not the Batman I know. They have been messing his character up a lot lately. Especially when it comes to his own kids. It frustrates me to no end.
If these events takes place after Selina ditched him at their Wedding I get it that Bruce is uber pissed off but he is being a Huge Hypocrite right now. Right now Bruce doesn't like Batwoman for killing Clayface he views her actions as Secret and more understanding while Jason killed Penguin in public and hates him and disowned him as a member of the Bat Family.......Bruce do you even REMEMBER what Jason said in the Trial? He agreed with Batwoman killing Clayface and EVERYONE ELSE in their own way AGREED with Jason of how she should be brought back. Bruce is LITERALLY helping Future Tim's prophecy of the Family breaking apart with Batwoman after killed Clayface which WASN'T a secret Bruce that TOO was in Public sure she shot him from afar with a Sniper Rifle and the Public had their own words about that......now we get why the Public doesn't want Batman operating by the time of Doomsday Clock is due to two Bat Family members killing two villains but really Bruce?
I get what you're talking about Kaibaman41. It's hard to follow Batman's no killing rule because these people like Penguin, Joker, or Two-Face will never change. Jason and Kate may have killed people but those were bad people while those villains killed dozens of Innocence so much so that in any opinion you can't just forgive them, they've earned their spot in hell. But Bruce is really forcing his no killing rule on them Because he believes it makes you no different than the criminals that he fights so when Jason and Kate broke that rule he push them away instead of talking to them. I know it's impossible but Bruce has to understand is that a no killing rule has to have limits not everyone can just do what he does and expect to not kill anyone, it's unrealistic and naive. Also it kind of ticks me off that Batman is willing to let a villain that killed innocence join one of his teams and give them the benefit of a doubt, but when one of his bat family members breaks a rule and kill someone he just kicked them out the door without a second thought? No one is going to miss penguin. Not the GCPD, not Gotham, not anyone! If anything Jason got rid of one of the biggest problems in Gotham, and now he's Public Enemy 1 for it? Sure maybe it wasn't by the book but that doesn't change the fact that no one will have to deal with penguin ever again. I can respect Batman's no killing rule, but I can't see it as some absolute rule that must be uphold at any cost because as human beings we can't it's letter every time sometimes we have to compromise if we want to save the greater good, and and to do that we have to make decisions that we don't like to make.
@Mark Lucchese Yeah he has, Batman has killed. When he was first created Batman had killed. Pre 52 Batman had killed Darkseid which lead him back in time instead killed by the Omega Beams. Yes New 52 Bats hasn't killed yet but give it time he will one day. Plus yes Jason killed all the time but Bruce allowed it over time allowing him to operate. Yes at first he hated the Suicide Squad but Bruce ALLOWS it one it's suicide to fight the Government that way and two he realizes theirs moments Superheroes are either too busy or can't operate. So again Bruce is being a Hypocrite
He almost killed Jason fighting him. He didn't hold back any of his punches, as Roy said, he could've taken his head clean off. Bruce is becoming a hypocrite.
@Mark Lucchese "batman best human fighter" lol do you know that Shiva defeated batman with just one move right??? Even cassandra cain is a better fighter than him, all the batman fanboys seem to be blind
Only Batman would beat his adoptive son with severe PTSD to near death for shooting a serial killing human trafficking king pin who killed his father and forced him into poverty
Let's be honest a justice league doing things Jason's way would be fucking scary I mean Jason is bad enought when he gose all the way and he hasnt got any powers
Yeah actually, Superman and Justice League didn’t have the same restraint as Jason. Jason’s stand point in Injustice is that Batman and Superman are both idiots.
Does everyone goes through a costume change? First superman goes to his retro costume, then batman with his retro(he got it BAD) now red hood. Who's next, nightwing?
LITERALLY THE BEST! Gotta love Redhood Also, any word on the whole Dr. Manhattan/ Doomsday clock storyline? I personally think he literally created the New 52 as well as Rebirth as a kind of pocket multiverse, in order to watch how coincidences and miracles happen to humanity. And the reason there are superheroes in this multiverse is simply because in his universe he's the only true super-powered hero. So in order to fill the void of his own longing to be normal, he created a multiverse of super-powered people made in his image. (In fact you can see the multiverse he created in the video 21:15 )
Why have it has been such a bad year for Batman Two of his sons have started killing again, his girlfriend left him, and his actions( Dark knight metal) may have jump started the end of the multi-verse. Geez DC give a guy a break
I think Red Hood is most interesting when he's, like, the disgraced bat-family member. He openly defies Batman's code and rarely associates with them unless it's a moment of great importance.
Batman always beats the joker to death You don't know anything about Batman and the lore and you pretend that you know everything just by watching one video and one wrong line.
I LOVE THE NEW COSTUME!!! IDK what people are on about (even though I kinda understand) but the homage to scorpion is a nice touch, and them having somewhat similar background makes it all the better.
Wow, that was an amazing comic. I hope Jason and Bruce make up, I mean, sure he was angry, but when Jason killed before he was never like this. It’s the fact that he was overloaded with emotions. Selina left him, his son killed a big villain, he’s mixed up. I hope their relationship comes back normal.
I always laugh at Batman beating Jason because….Jason technically holds back during this. He doesn’t fight back, because a bit later….Jason kicks Bruce ass effortlessly, along with the asses of other league member.
That never happened, everyone shits on Jason he is one of the worst in skills and fighting and training even Tim kicked his ass, Jason has never beaten Batman even with prep time and he loses 😂😂😂😂
I agree with Benny. I wish the fight with BM lasted longer. I didn't read alot of Jason Todd post killing joke. I stopped reading comics for years. I like what I'm seeing thus far.
Gotta say I was really hoping that past and present Outlaw team up in the beginning was real. I saw Roy and thought that's where the story was going and now I'm sad. Maybe after his solo run they'll consider it. I really like Jason as a team leader.
I'm tired of Batmans shit. His way of doing things hasn't produced results, but made things much worse. Its time for Bruce to step aside its a youngmans world now and a more hostile world. It needs a new kind of Hero that isn't afraid to dispense some quick Good old fashioned swift vigilante justice.
hasn't produced results? What? Sure, the big bads tend not to change much but thats not his fault. Hell, some of the baddies went from full on super villain to more antihero status over the years (and stints in arkham). Actually most of his rogues gallery has been redeemed (if only temporarily) because of bats' interference. Riddler, catwoman, ivy, harley, manbat, and I could go on. You know what happens when superheroes decide they can be judge jury and executioner? Injustice. Also how has he made things worse in any way??? ffs man.
People aren't mad about Batman's no kill rule, they're jason fangays and they're crying because Batman put Jason in his place, and proved to them that Jason can't beat Batman in a fair fight. 😂😂😂😂cry about it
@9752matt well in that fight batman knocks Jason to the ground and then says that he trained him better than his and asks him to hit him. Jason then punches Bruce a couple of times and Bruce says Im still standing and Jason takes the batwing. I dont think that was a legit fight.
@@SouthpawsRule217 He took the Batmobile not the plane. Yes, Jason left him standing and you seriously think Jason doesn't know that. He could've just kept beating Batman, kept on going but he can't be bother with Batman anymore so he just left.
People aren't mad about Batman's no kill rule, they're jason fangays and they're crying because Batman put Jason in his place, and proved to them that Jason can't beat Batman in a fair fight, so cry about it😂😂😂😂
Why the hell is Batman so angry about this? I get it that Red Hood pretty much killed Penguin and it got caught on video. But if only Batman did some DETECTIVE WORK he would get why Jason killed him on the first place. I did not see him getting all pissed off about it when Batwoman killed Clayface. Batman is such a hypocrite.
1) Penguin is not dead 2) RHATO Rebirth started with Bruce&Jason having an actual father-son moment and Jason had made the "no killing promise", he even managed to score a few big wins with his non lethal ways. But then he relapsed and just shat over that promise&their relationship. And Bruce did NOT kill the murderer(s) of his parents and fights every day against the urge to kill.
ultrix soma he’s a hypocrite CUZ THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO WRITE BATMAN sorry for yelling I just wanted to emphasis that cuz I’m angry (and I mean Batman didn’t kill his parents killer but he should at least talk to Jason)
merrick silverwolf Then the more i question why Batman got so fucking angry. If the Penguin is not dead, it means that Batman's anger was pointless. And the thing i was pointing out wasn't that Batman killed the murderer of his parents, but the fact that he lets people like Batwoman get away with murder but Jason killing for a way more valid reason is suddenly a no-no. And is not like he killed an ally of the fucking Bat-family like Clayface, Jason "killed" someone who pretty much doomed his father and then laughs about it. But Batman, the world's greatest detective, can't fucking understand why Jason decided to kill him on the first place.
People aren't mad about Batman's no kill rule, they're jason fangays and they're crying because Batman put Jason in his place, and proved to them that Jason can't beat Batman in a fair fight. 😂😂😂😂cry about it kiddo.@@kiddo6393
That was awesome, but I have some questions. 1. Since Jasons dad is alive now, will they explore that story? 2. Will they start the story of jason searching for artemis and bizzaro in Jasons new book or will I have to read a completely separate book to find out how they will get back together?
Dear DC please don’t make Jason the Punisher after all of his character development he has grown so much and is his own character Also the mask is called his “hood” so he is putting a hood on his hood which is dumb don’t @ me
Red hood shoots penguin: no more red hood. Superman kills joker: Batman declares him a bad guy. Batman creates brother eye, puts together plans to take down his own team, hangs force-mutated monster from his batplane: Wednesday. Anyone else feel like Batman's kind of a hypocrite?
Hall of Punishment.... Oh my I wonder what happened to Hall of Justice. I can safely assume they went into a future which is why the computer didn't detect them. I hope we get some sort of story following Artemis and Bizzaro that hopefully leads them back to Jason Todd.
It's weird. Jason's father hoped that Jason would become a prince of Gotham, and would have a father he could look up to. He kinda did. Batman is the King of Gotham, even if people don't say it out of their mouths. Jason is his son (adoption or not), but it wasn't until he went off on his own that he becomes a prince. And Batman is definitely a father he could look up to, but it's normal to disagree with your parents. That's what happens when you grow up.
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Damian kills someone
Batman: “we can get through this” *hugs*
Red hood kills someone
Batman: “NO MORE RED HOOD!!”*gets brutally beaten*
Maybe he killed more
These stories are nonsensical but this makes perfect sense, Jasons killed before, they've had it out before and batman feels like a fool for trusting Jason, Damians his son and still growing as a person.
Leopluridon666 Batman let Jason suffer and die alone and then when he came back, he gave him crap because of killing bad guys when he knew damn well the world would be better without them. Damian has been killing people ( good and bad) since he was born and Batman barely does anything about it. Clearly he has it out for Jason. He always has.
@@felicitykibaya3602 To my understanding, "Let" is not what happened, he was trying to find him and after he died and came back, he began murdering folks after he had been robin, haven given him the info on why murder bad. Not to say that killing folks is a bad thing, the world we clearly be better off without them. Damien on the other hand was born into the league of shadows and taught to kill from birth, so there's some deprogramming to do there, he's gone on and off with the murdering but then, he's a child who hasn't matured enough to solidify in his ways. Once again I'll say that Damien is Batmans son.
We all know Jason was the least favorite Robin. It's pretty obvious
Batman: I won't kill my villains who kill innocent people.
Also Batman: I'll try to kill my son who killed my villian who killed innocent people.
Batman is full of shit both him and that giggling idiot deserve each others.
It’s weird because Bruce Wayne doesn’t kill his enemies but Thomas Wayne never had a problem with it
@@ghostofdeath7388 would you be quiet, jason isnt written that good of a character, both will be written awfully and wonderfully
@@tehjmoney2604 batman cant kill because if he go that that far then he can littery kill everybody dark knights
@@nasirwright2184 You know what, I’m gonna say it.
Fuck. Dark. Nights.
Seriously, fuck everything about the Batman Who Laughs and all the nonsensical horseshit that came with it. The entire arc was nothing but one long painfully drawn out Batwank circle jerk. Batman Who Laughs somehow has more plot armor than the original Batman who is nothing but plot armor. If they didn’t very purposefully dumb down and nerf literally all of the other Justice League members the Batman Who Laughs saga would have been a panel long and consisted entirely of Superman, Wonder Woman, The Flash and Martian Manhunter drawing straws to see who has to mop up the giant red stain on the wall that at one point was Batman.
*Years ago:* "IT'S NOT A PHASE, DAD!"
*Now:* "IT'S STILL NOT A PHASE, DAD!"
Just Some Guy with a Mustache bruh Batman was being a whole dick in this issue. Probably because of Catwoman leaving him.
Why do I see in almost all of my RUclips video comments?
+Billa Vanilla Batman was right, though, dick or not. RH openly broke their deal.
Penguin is not dead.
Billa Vanilla Jason did basically broke Batman’s heart on live television.
Glad Red Hood finally pulled the trigger, but he was right it seemed like Batman never hit Joker that hard, I mean dang he broke Jason bullet proof mask of the first hit and then kept hitting with that same fury.
Well to be fair batman trusted and treated him like a son.
Fuck Batman he the biggest hypocrite in Comics
If you read or remember death in the family Batman encountered The Joker after Jason's death. He was going to murder the Joker and Superman had to talk him out of it. And even then at the end Batman and Joker were on a helicopter about to crash and explode and Batman made no effort to save The Joker's life (although he excuses himself with saying he had no time and could only save himself.
And if we're talking about hypocrites the biggest ones are the ones who accuse others without realizing they are one themselves.
Because it was Batman disciplining his son. It hurts alot more as a parent when your child fucks up big time then when an insane Clown serial killer pisses you off
A little bit of tough love
Everyone loves Jason Todd loves the Redhood...remember when everyone voted for his death with death comes retribution
WE LOVE The Winnik version! Or even the Tan/Morrison version w/ the outfit & Pill Head (from B&R vol.1 / 4-6) .. NOT THIS LAME WHINY VERSION W/ THE STUPID LOOKING BROWN LEATHER JACKET THAT'S TWO SIZES 2 SMALL!
WTF DC...
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*WHY DOESN'T HE TELL US THE NUMBERS OF THE COMICS IN THE ARC?*
He wrecks the story imo, Than nobody buys the books in reprocussion. *IS THAT WHY HE DOESN'T MENTION the COMIC #'s ?*
Harley Pitts half of us werent even alive wen that happnd
The Jason Todd death was rigged.
That was him as Robin. At the time they couldn't stand the kid that replaced Dick because in their eyes no one could ever top Dick as Robin. Now that he's this edgy badass that was trained by assassins and all that he's liked by so many.
Jason Todd later on becoming the most loved and relatable character in DC Comics but kids from the 80’s and 90’s probably feel like shit
Ugh jason is my favorite cuz hes the most realistic and relatable
Of all the robins he kinda is, Dick and Tim are often portrayed as the perfect boys and damian is an edge lord trained by Ra's Al Ghul so yeah Jason is the most relatable
@rorik druagr and being a trained assassin, or an acrobat orphan is?
@rorik druagr
Because dressing up in a superhero costume is relatable. Do I really need to say, why it's stupid to question comic book logic? It obviously means his *character* is relatable.
@rorik druagr no being in the slums not knowing jack and shiz having no expirience and learning from scratch
yea he's the relatable Robin, since he's the only one that grew up in poverty while always being compared to Dick and Tim cuz in the early days he was the odd one out, Dick is the world's greatest acrobat and Tim's from a high class family also a genius, Jason was just an outcast on the streets. He earned his place now after going through hell in the comic world AND the real world to get here
So, you can kill if it is not public? Hmm. Damien killed Nobody, Jason killed a diplomat's rapacious son in '87, Batwoman killed, and now Jason kills Penguin. But the murders by Damien and Batwoman are okay because they are private? How many murders has Batman covered up for his allies?
Damian was raised a killer and batwoman's intentions were different. This was a Jason ignoring his development, taking what Batman stands for (what jason once stood for) and saying f#\*k it my revenge is morw important than those that go above and beyond for me. It hits closer to home i guess...
You'd think he'd try to question and demand to know why Jason even shot Penguin to begin with. Jason has proved before that his actions are well thought out and precise like when he shot the mayor only for it to all be a ruse to save the mayor and still keep up the reputation as the big bad red hood. You'd think after a case like that would lead Batman, the freaking detective, to first question his actions instead of letting his anger take hold of him and going straight in to beat the crap out of his own son who didn't even fight back. That's not the Batman I know. They have been messing his character up a lot lately. Especially when it comes to his own kids. It frustrates me to no end.
Damian was raised to be a killer from birth to the age he is in the comics and Batwoman did it for total different circumstances
@@riripari2042 Bruce probably knew about Jason's father and penguin. I mean hes bruce he knows everything.
@@riripari2042 totally agree with you. He never even asked and started bashing the hell out of Jason. I love batman but god I hated him during that fight. Plus SPOILER ALERT !!!! Penguin didnt die somehow lol
See Killer Croc and Roy still friends great scene.
Markell Kimble they better stay friends.
Markell Kimble yeah it’s a great throwback
It's hilarious how Killer Croc became such a human character
do u know what comic that one is from
Roy Harper and Killer Croc is an interesting friendship because of one being an hero and another being villain
At last Artemis and Jason had a kiss!
Eek no that's wallys girl
wrong artemis buddy
Someone Important lol no that's Artemis of Bana-Mighdall not Artemis Crock i think you got confused dude cuz they first names are the same
@@Atilas513 yeah I think thanks for the help
Artmeis the girl whos the understudy of wonderwoman
That shovel scene... Would make a great movie fight scene.
The shoveler
bro, they need to make a red-hood live action movie. it'd be so good, and yeah I like new style of red-hood, but the only thing i don't like about this issue is that he didn't land a single blow on batman
GO GET THE SHEVEL -MGK voice
Gregor Black more like Eminem voice make is Garbo
Mystery men
Wow, Jason Todd really gets a rough threatment by batman in this one, didn't even try to talk to him. I get it, he was overtaken by rage, but seriously. Jason's base imploded with his friends in it, killing them for all batman knew, and he still beat the hell out of him. I really feel like the writers like to make Jason's life mizerable, suprised he isn't a depressed drunk at the end of this story.
bruce gave him 2 chances the first time when he found out jason was redhood and after when redhood created the outlaws in the first issue
+Mika van Polen Read the comics. Batman gave him more than one chance. Now, he's had enough. About time, too.
Batman wasn't mad, he was disappointed. He gave Jason, the long-estranged son of the Bat Family, a second chance and he squandered it completely.
Jason Todd just doesn't have that steel will like Batman, he already struggles trying to make sense of how things should go, and while he did made the promise, it's one that is already a challenge to fulfill due to him already believing deep down that all the scums that made the world ugly deserve to die. He was definitely pushed seeing Penguin with a look that only shows that he will never change. He didn't even get a chance to explain himself that the Penguin was connected to his father who died by his schemes a long time ago.
Writers love to make every superheroes life miserable
Spider-Man
Is a prime example
The difference between Batwoman and Redhood is that Jason is a genuine character
Yup I also hate that he lost to her that's bull his a member of the league of assacine and has thought batman on equal terms in under the hood. So why can't he take on Bruce's lackys
@@JoshMC2000 that's Damian dipshit
@@cooterface4114 Jason was trained by the league of assassins as well
Javier Lopez I thought he was trained by the All caste?
@@javierlopez9789 k
This hurts more when u find out that this was the last time Jason saw Roy before Roy died in the rehab.
Thats why i like redhood. He kills bad guys when he needs to, instead of creating a cycle like batman does where the bad guys go in and out of prison with no real repercussion. Plus as a character he's more interesting.
“You say you can be better than me, but it won’t happen NOT LIKE THIS!”
Hopefully it's just an arc and Jason gets better again. Good guys who arent under the authority of a higher power and hiding their identity shouldn't take the law into their own hands. And in my book Jason is a Good guy but making some poor decisions.
One of the scenes that made me hate Batman.I thought new 52 batman was more likeable but this comic makes me hate this version too.
Damien has a literal *torture dungeon*
Jason shot a criminal boss that had killed 100s of innocents and was even taunting him about his dead dad.
Of course Bruce would attack Jason. Even though Jason is a better and more interesting character than half the bat family.
@@passingbycommentor he’s certainly more of a hero then Bruce is. He does more good then Bruce does. In weeks of Coming back from the dead, he was able to lower the crime rate by a significant margin. Even in this run, we are shown that Bruce doesn’t have a code, he has a weakness. He hits Jason harder then he ever hits the joker, despite the joker killing more. There’s not even a reason to keep them alive. You keep them alive because they might repent and turn their lives around, but Batman is shown not to believe that all of them are worthy of good.
@@williamnguyen8663batman was more exp
I Like that idea of Jason's Dad being someone who got his ass kicked by Batman while working for every major Villain there is..... Wait..... They.... They......... killed Penguin?
nope, "critical condition".
Batman villains have one of the thickest plot armors in comics.
He's just sleeping
Hey Bruce can you go talk to Damian now that he has his own torture dungeon ?
Bruce always makes exceptions when it comes to Damian, he has been a hypocrite since New 52
@@javierlopez9789 yup Jason called him out on it to in shattered by rage and batman was practantlly asking Jason to beat him to death
@@JoshMC2000 yes i remember that, thats why i miss the post crisis version of Batman, the one who actually cares for all of his children and not this version who only truly cares about Damian and treats the other Robins as just students, like whats happening to Tim Drake and Cassandra Cain right now
Right Damian grabs different villains and places them into his personal dark dungeon and Red Hood just kills won villain and he becomes enraged ready to destroy his foster son
The rest of the Outlaws loyalty to Jason nearly brought a tear to my eye. Saving him from his old mentor
As The live action Teen Titan robin said:
“Fck batman”
Jason just injured one person badly
And that is penguin
As explain in the new Outlaws that the bullet is blank... even for the greatest detective alove batman sure sucks at controlling his emotion
That Suddenly batman goes to Take Jason down like never been seen before
As Jason even say
Do you punch joker that hard
Damn Bruce
For all the innocent they have kill and so on
Bruce would do that to Jason
Theoretically his own Son (adopted)
That’s because he’s tired of putting faith that Jason will get better. Time and time again Batman has forgiven Jason in hope that Jason will eventually stop trying to kill people but Jason is just keeps betraying that trust. Besides, Joker is just a clown in a colorful suit while Jason is a master martial artist who’s in full body armor. A punch like that would have killed the Joker.
@@trevordavis6830 you're funny not knowing the things joker can survive but lemme tell you this STOP VIEWING IN BATS SHOES BUT JASON THE MAN WENT THRU A LOT OF PAIN N SUFFERING BATS IS A HYPOCRITICAL ASS
The Penguin has destroyed multiple lives Red Hood decides to put a bullet in the monocle of Penguin and Batman gets all mad he calls himself Vengeance
Tehj Money and yet jason explain after that that the bulley is blank
Diedkid 145 jason said he never planned to kill the penguin just to make his empire crumbled
And just because Jason is a master martial arts doesn’t he can felt pain or injury
The joker is a psychopath deserves to be dead
Batman is my favorite hero but I disagree with him here if anyone should relate to Jason it's him and he found out valuable information on his father's death and witnessed bizaro and Artemis vanish and all batman did was beat on him for killing penguin publically
Also u can tell Jason was hurt emotionally cuz Bruce is like a father figure for him but he was so quick to give up on him for killing a criminal
Bruce is in the right. Jason killed penguin not to save people but to feel better. He through every chance Bruce has given to him back in his face. Bruce can relate but he'd never through morals away just to make him feel better
Bill The Bull Gates let someone kill ur father see if u react the same for all u thinking it’s so easy Jason did not deserve a beating that bad for killing a criminal it’s against Batman’s morals not Jason’s , Jason even said he never hit joker that hard Bruce is wrong here
Bruce isn't wrong. You can never justify killing. I'm not taking away why Jason did what he did but it doesn't make it okay. Anyone would have reacted just like Jason and there is consequences for that.
@@1724kingcobra actually no if someone was to kill as much as penguin did they would be put down for the death penalty
You know stories like this kinda make me hate batman he didn't even ask Jason why he killed penguin, glad that harper kicked his arrogant ass
Penguin is alive and working with Batman.
@@chinyereugwu9431 how and where?
In the main Batman couple of issues coming next
I wanted rose to show up later and be like. I heared about what Bruce did I'll help you give him what's his just say the word. Also have say to his face that he treated Jason worse then Slade did her. I think that would be enough pay back also it would be humiliating for Bruce to not only get beat by Slade in the past but by his daughter. I think most his roughes would find that helerease also it would be cool to see them work togeather again. After all it was hinted at in new 52 but never shown
@@JoshMC2000 I've ALWAYS wanted Jason to team up or be romantic with either Rose Wilson [Pre 52/New 52], Artemis of Mighdall, and Cassandra Cain [Pre52! or Rebirth if she got back her Black Bat mantle cuz I don't like the name Orphan IMO it's meh or terrible] they all regardless if it's platonic or continuously romantic would have VERY intriguing yet complex dynamics with Jason whether he's a killer with a heart [like a mix of Pre52!/Under the Red Hood & Rebirth iterations of his character] or not. To me DC & Marvel tend to shy away from great character development opportunities for little reasons. Firing Dan Didio [who HATES Nightwing & I'd imagine other BatFam] would be nice but I digress.
*Question: What if Renee Montoya AKA The Question became the "Oracle" of Outlaws Team comprised of: Jason Todd, Artemis of Mighdall, Rose Wilson, Bizzaro, Roy Harper, & Blackfire* would that be interesting? [Jason can have possible romantic yet complex dynamics with all those girls & to me he would end up settling with either Cass or Artemis of Mighdall or maybe Rose.] But now I just seem like a crazy Multi-Shipper 😂😋😏💞😂
Roy got payback on Batman for dismantling the Titans.
Batman literally could beat the shit out of Roy easily lucky for him he was focused at red hood
Batman Tas *Fuck Batman!*
So, Batman strikes down one of his own HARDER than he's ever hit the Joker? *To be fair, Jason was only referring to all of the times that he has seen Bruce hit the crazy clown.
It's so frustrating like in Flash Season 4 when Ralph wanted to take the bus-meta that could go into pocket dimensions in order to kill DeVoe, but Barry was like no no we're not killers and then knocked out Ralph in one punch no hesitation (though it makes 0 sense how that even worked).
I'm not saying heroes should be Injustice Superman-level murderers but at what point is enough enough?
I think why and how Barry not out Ralph is because of the Speed Force, yes the punch itself would normally not effect Ralph but it's like how Eobard killed Cisco in one timeline when Barry hit Ralph the speed vibrations mustive went threw his body to force him to get knocked out. And yes while I agree Super Heroes shouldn't be Injustice hardcore killing and in your own words "when is enough is enough" the funny thing is Super Heroes have killed alot the Super Sentai/Power Rangers sure they kill the monster of the week but the majority of the time when a Ranger team isn't a police force(three in Japan currently/a thief team at the same time in the 3rd case) but when American Super Heroes and in the same case in MHA Heroes are expected NOT TO KILL and get scrutinized even if the bad guy is a fucking monster kinda like in real life when Police are forced to kill Crimals in a gun fight while half the public agrees the rest are like "theirs always another way" type thing it's a weird thing so in a no killing rule theirs no right or wrong answer as long as one isn't being hypocritical about it like Bruce is here
The Haves and the Have Nots Review it’s because batman cares for redhood he doesn’t want him to end up like the joker
The Haves and the Have Nots Review Jason is stronger than Joker. The hits that Batman hit Jason with would probably kill the comparatively weak Joker
+9752matt When Batman finally - FINALLY - broke Red Hood's mask off, he actually got a lot of respect from me. Finally, that insufferable wind bag got what he has deserved for years.
+9752matt Okay, so you're saying that Red Hood's methods are better than Batman's.
How many times has Batman saved Gotham from one crisis or another? How many times has Red Hood?
How many times has Batman, directly or indirectly saved the world, if not the multiverse? How many times has Red Hood?
So, whose methods have been more successful overall?
There's no need to do the math. Batman HAS saved far more lives in his time as a hero that Red Hood most probably ever will.
But, to you, the moment Batman loses his temper and hits someone he TRUSTED, he stops being a hero? Even in Marvel, heroes who don't kill are held in higher regard than those who do. Spiderman is VERY big on his no-kill policy. Do you think he's less than Red Hood because he refuses to gun people down?
when Batman rips off the bat symbol from your chest.... it's serious business
Jason Todd is one of those characters that has grown on me alot i just hope he doesn't turn into the dc version of the punisher im fine with him going the way it is cause its understandable i just don't want him to go that far gone and his redesign i do not mind it i just wish he kept the guns and the demolition toys
Well, the first issue, he's brutal, but controlled. He's not barely clinging to sanity like Punisher, for example.
well yea of course i know that but i just don't want to him end up like good old frank and believe me i know what happened to him
Red hood is one of the best characters when he is a vigilante
ROY HARPER JUST TOOK DOWN BATMAN LETS GO
Roy's awesome.
Honestly Batman isn't that difficult when you actually make him angry~
Zwordsman have you fought Batman? I think it depends on the story and if it calls for it.
He was focused on Jason and pissed
😂😂😂
Luis Flores lmao what a silly thing to ask no matter the context. because Batman is a fictional character
Am I the only one that cheered and yelled "finally!" when Jason shot Penguin?
For a second there I thought the plot armor was going to strike again.
No you weren't my friend
The plot armor did strike and Penguin got only into critical condition
I can't wait for Red Hood to get back to what made him the best member of the Bat family. Killing shit-bags.
I agree
Jack4514Pool exactly the best line he ever said is “I’m doing what you never could, I’m putting them down”
With Rubber bullets.
Hajime no ippo !!!!!
This anime is soooooo great !!!!!
It’s definitely one of my favorite anime. When I started boxing I watched it when I wasn’t training and it helped me learn faster because the moves were so realistic. It was also super motivating.
Batman & Red Hood on a Friday, great start to the weekend.
Yep
Simon Hetherington happy 5 day weekend!
Red Hood is literally gold. I love this character. Easily the best character in DC
I wonder if Artemis and Bizarro just fell into the dark Multiverse?
Patrick Scott I'm pretty sure it's bizzaro world. you just have to look at the page
Oh damn I didn't even think about that
Does that mean Artemis is now the awkward one since in that world, logic is reverse?
damn batman have too much hate for jason here . that was TOO rough.... damb
I really dig the Punisher anti hero type Red Hood. Back to how he should be 👌
same bro
Ozan Buyukmetin his mask is called his “hood” so putting a hood over his “hood” is one of the dumbest choices design choices they could make
@@prophet1390 Red Hood Hood
I hope it’s temporary
@@prophet1390
Masks aren't hoods.
It’s fantastic how much Scott Lobdell has redeemed himself since the New 52
Ye still pissed the fight was so one sided. I get that what he wanted to do for the story but give us an even fight
Batman took him by surprise.
@@shoumyabarua4345 Honestly I don't even Jason had in really fight left in him
dont mean Jack his been ambused before and still won. The fight with Rose in new52 springs to mind
Its time for a RedHood movie on the big screen. Someone worthy of the part for God sakes.
Jensen Ackles
DarksaberForce he should play hal jordan
@@pyromaniac034 Not bad really but he fits more as Red Hood since he voiced him in Under the Red Hood.
@@DarksaberForce and if i remember correctly didnt he do a pretty decent red hood cosplay
@@doomfistmain5515 For Halloween recently. And in Supernatural Sam and Dean visited a comic book store with a Red Hood costume in the background.
This story seriously brought tears MULTIPLE times!!! One of the greatest stories of the last decade, EASILY!!
Batman was kind of a prick in this I mean Jason is still one of his sons
As far as New 52/rebirth is concerned if one of them is not named Damian , then it is not his son
People aren't mad about Batman's no kill rule, they're jason fangays and they're crying because Batman put Jason in his place, and proved to them that Jason can't beat Batman in a fair fight. 😂😂😂😂
Been a long time since I've been this invested in a comics collective main cast. Had to pause and pace around whilst self reflecting on how something could bring such happiness when red and arty tough punched.
Been waiting for another Jason Roy team up. Those two working together always feels like me and a buddy of mine... other than the explosions and body count.
I just love Red Hood, he is my fav
Nightwing is equally badass too!.
I like him because he is the Dc punisher
Yes he's willing to do the things that goody two shoes like bruce and dick won't do
I loved watching Jason grow during rebirth too
I love how this feels like a season finale of a show. So many plotlines come to a head yet they leave cliffhangers to hype up the coming season (issue). Also a huge clash between Bruce and Jason, albeit brief but the artwork was top of the line.
Why does seem Jason isn't trying to fight back and why doesn't Batman care enough to ask Jason what going on?
Because he's Batman
@@redrussell2159 I don't get it. Batman loves his kids. He's hard on them but he loves them.
Blame the writer this batman reminds me to Frank miller's
HarleyxJoker FOREVER Redhood thinks his friends just died so I don't blame him for not being able to put on a fight. Also, Batman know that Jason is very hot headed and most times you can't reason with him. By the way he was dragging him across the rooftop I believe his plan was to knock him out and then talk with him in the Batcave.
@@jpereira011 i hardly think so, why tear appart the batsymbol off his chest in the street if he was going to take him to the batcave, i think he was taking him to black gate
I think this is the last time we saw Roy Harper alive before Heros In Crisis started... Poor Roy 😞
You'd think he'd try to question and demand to know why Jason even shot Penguin to begin with. Jason has proved before that his actions are well thought out and precise like when he shot the mayor only for it to all be a ruse to save the mayor and still keep up the reputation as the big bad red hood. You'd think after a case like that would lead Batman, the freaking detective, to first question his actions instead of letting his anger take hold of him and going straight in to beat the crap out of his own son who didn't even fight back. That's not the Batman I know. They have been messing his character up a lot lately. Especially when it comes to his own kids. It frustrates me to no end.
What an amazing ending. And the progression change back to being ruthless makes sense!
Jason has always been my favorite Bat-family member and I like what Scott Lobdell and other writers did with Jason's past in this issue.
If these events takes place after Selina ditched him at their Wedding I get it that Bruce is uber pissed off but he is being a Huge Hypocrite right now. Right now Bruce doesn't like Batwoman for killing Clayface he views her actions as Secret and more understanding while Jason killed Penguin in public and hates him and disowned him as a member of the Bat Family.......Bruce do you even REMEMBER what Jason said in the Trial? He agreed with Batwoman killing Clayface and EVERYONE ELSE in their own way AGREED with Jason of how she should be brought back. Bruce is LITERALLY helping Future Tim's prophecy of the Family breaking apart with Batwoman after killed Clayface which WASN'T a secret Bruce that TOO was in Public sure she shot him from afar with a Sniper Rifle and the Public had their own words about that......now we get why the Public doesn't want Batman operating by the time of Doomsday Clock is due to two Bat Family members killing two villains but really Bruce?
I get what you're talking about Kaibaman41. It's hard to follow Batman's no killing rule because these people like Penguin, Joker, or Two-Face will never change. Jason and Kate may have killed people but those were bad people while those villains killed dozens of Innocence so much so that in any opinion you can't just forgive them, they've earned their spot in hell. But Bruce is really forcing his no killing rule on them Because he believes it makes you no different than the criminals that he fights so when Jason and Kate broke that rule he push them away instead of talking to them. I know it's impossible but Bruce has to understand is that a no killing rule has to have limits not everyone can just do what he does and expect to not kill anyone, it's unrealistic and naive. Also it kind of ticks me off that Batman is willing to let a villain that killed innocence join one of his teams and give them the benefit of a doubt, but when one of his bat family members breaks a rule and kill someone he just kicked them out the door without a second thought? No one is going to miss penguin. Not the GCPD, not Gotham, not anyone! If anything Jason got rid of one of the biggest problems in Gotham, and now he's Public Enemy 1 for it? Sure maybe it wasn't by the book but that doesn't change the fact that no one will have to deal with penguin ever again. I can respect Batman's no killing rule, but I can't see it as some absolute rule that must be uphold at any cost because as human beings we can't it's letter every time sometimes we have to compromise if we want to save the greater good, and and to do that we have to make decisions that we don't like to make.
@Mark Lucchese
Yeah he has, Batman has killed. When he was first created Batman had killed. Pre 52 Batman had killed Darkseid which lead him back in time instead killed by the Omega Beams. Yes New 52 Bats hasn't killed yet but give it time he will one day. Plus yes Jason killed all the time but Bruce allowed it over time allowing him to operate. Yes at first he hated the Suicide Squad but Bruce ALLOWS it one it's suicide to fight the Government that way and two he realizes theirs moments Superheroes are either too busy or can't operate. So again Bruce is being a Hypocrite
He almost killed Jason fighting him.
He didn't hold back any of his punches, as Roy said, he could've taken his head clean off.
Bruce is becoming a hypocrite.
@Mark Lucchese "batman best human fighter" lol do you know that Shiva defeated batman with just one move right??? Even cassandra cain is a better fighter than him, all the batman fanboys seem to be blind
Yeah Bruce and everyone else is turning into their pre-New52 counterparts and geeze were they 1-dimensional&stuck up assholes
Only Batman would beat his adoptive son with severe PTSD to near death for shooting a serial killing human trafficking king pin who killed his father and forced him into poverty
Cry about it
@@imed-ha77 wipe your mouth when your done
@@wokebans ask you momma to do it
Let me guess, an alternate reality where Jason got his way and because heroes started killing, everything went to crap?
Yup ....😂😂😂
Let's be honest a justice league doing things Jason's way would be fucking scary I mean Jason is bad enought when he gose all the way and he hasnt got any powers
@@JoshMC2000 1 word... injustice (and this reality seems to be way worse than that)
@@blazeonvidz6734 scary stuff
Yeah actually, Superman and Justice League didn’t have the same restraint as Jason. Jason’s stand point in Injustice is that Batman and Superman are both idiots.
For a man who’s prepared for anything and everything, Batman stilled got caught off guard.
Does everyone goes through a costume change? First superman goes to his retro costume, then batman with his retro(he got it BAD) now red hood. Who's next, nightwing?
Ups
LITERALLY THE BEST!
Gotta love Redhood
Also, any word on the whole Dr. Manhattan/ Doomsday clock storyline?
I personally think he literally created the New 52 as well as Rebirth as a kind of pocket multiverse, in order to watch how coincidences and miracles happen to humanity. And the reason there are superheroes in this multiverse is simply because in his universe he's the only true super-powered hero. So in order to fill the void of his own longing to be normal, he created a multiverse of super-powered people made in his image. (In fact you can see the multiverse he created in the video 21:15 )
Why have it has been such a bad year for Batman Two of his sons have started killing again, his girlfriend left him, and his actions( Dark knight metal) may have jump started the end of the multi-verse. Geez DC give a guy a break
HarleyxJoker FOREVER wait.. did Damian start killing again? 😢
@@jpereira011 no
Javier Lopez maybe a little unclear in the new titans. Either way his character has regressed a bit.
Javier Lopez Then who is the other "son" the comment was talking about?
SamiJo2402 oh!!!! Are you talking about Black mask?
This is some deep story telling. Seriously.also it's funny how his dad look is very similar clothing wise.
I think Red Hood is most interesting when he's, like, the disgraced bat-family member. He openly defies Batman's code and rarely associates with them unless it's a moment of great importance.
Benny, you're awesome. I love how you love Batman so much that it sometimes feels like everybody else is a completely 100% unintentional afterthought
That Batman gave me some Frank Miller vibes
oh god no Bruce may be hitting hard but since literally everything in his life is going to shit i can understand that
PTSD flashbacks from all star batman
The you’ve never hit the joker this hard line hits hard, like Jesus Christ that’s like a slap in the face for Batman.
Batman always beats the joker to death You don't know anything about Batman and the lore and you pretend that you know everything just by watching one video and one wrong line.
awe come on , the scenes of Jason and his dad made me tear up...
I LOVE THE NEW COSTUME!!! IDK what people are on about (even though I kinda understand) but the homage to scorpion is a nice touch, and them having somewhat similar background makes it all the better.
Croc was honestly dropping some quality advice
Tim drake:Jason Todd is cute ,funny,aggressive, but what the hell am I?
Jason Todd:your you dummy
Wow, that was an amazing comic. I hope Jason and Bruce make up, I mean, sure he was angry, but when Jason killed before he was never like this. It’s the fact that he was overloaded with emotions. Selina left him, his son killed a big villain, he’s mixed up. I hope their relationship comes back normal.
I would never think Killer Croc was the one to get advice and leads from. Rebirth really is great.
I dont like the new red hood costume.looks like scorpion .the best was the classic leather jacket n the military pants
The grey pants..
The original is the best but the new outfit is not so bad
I think it's refreshing.
Best putfit was the one on the arkam games. Not the arkam knight outfit but the red good one with the leather jacket and hood over his helmet
This new outfit is cool to me, at least its not like new52 where the mask had a fucking mouth
While a base is crashing into a building Batman wants to beat Jason up
I really dig Red Hoods new look.
I always laugh at Batman beating Jason because….Jason technically holds back during this. He doesn’t fight back, because a bit later….Jason kicks Bruce ass effortlessly, along with the asses of other league member.
That never happened, everyone shits on Jason he is one of the worst in skills and fighting and training even Tim kicked his ass, Jason has never beaten Batman even with prep time and he loses 😂😂😂😂
I agree with Benny. I wish the fight with BM lasted longer. I didn't read alot of Jason Todd post killing joke. I stopped reading comics for years. I like what I'm seeing thus far.
Damn why did you stopped?
Uto Resa 519 I can't really say. Did I lose interest or just thought "I'm an adult now"; Idk.
Gotta say I was really hoping that past and present Outlaw team up in the beginning was real. I saw Roy and thought that's where the story was going and now I'm sad. Maybe after his solo run they'll consider it. I really like Jason as a team leader.
He is done playing full house with the batfamily . ( Is it me or does batman lose allies by issue)
Would help if he wasn't q dick to them all the time
Allies more like sons
@@doomfistmain5515 he doesn't really treat like that
I'm tired of Batmans shit. His way of doing things hasn't produced results, but made things much worse. Its time for Bruce to step aside its a youngmans world now and a more hostile world. It needs a new kind of Hero that isn't afraid to dispense some quick Good old fashioned swift vigilante justice.
Because that worked out great in Injustice
hasn't produced results? What? Sure, the big bads tend not to change much but thats not his fault. Hell, some of the baddies went from full on super villain to more antihero status over the years (and stints in arkham). Actually most of his rogues gallery has been redeemed (if only temporarily) because of bats' interference. Riddler, catwoman, ivy, harley, manbat, and I could go on. You know what happens when superheroes decide they can be judge jury and executioner? Injustice. Also how has he made things worse in any way??? ffs man.
People aren't mad about Batman's no kill rule, they're jason fangays and they're crying because Batman put Jason in his place, and proved to them that Jason can't beat Batman in a fair fight. 😂😂😂😂cry about it
Red Hood and Arsenal!! Now thats a show Id watch!!
Redhood need his rematch against Batman
He'll get one and Bruce will pay for all the shit his out him through
@9752matt which comic?
Batman will spank him😂
@9752matt well in that fight batman knocks Jason to the ground and then says that he trained him better than his and asks him to hit him. Jason then punches Bruce a couple of times and Bruce says Im still standing and Jason takes the batwing. I dont think that was a legit fight.
@@SouthpawsRule217 He took the Batmobile not the plane. Yes, Jason left him standing and you seriously think Jason doesn't know that. He could've just kept beating Batman, kept on going but he can't be bother with Batman anymore so he just left.
Fuck batman. I’m with Jason 100%
People aren't mad about Batman's no kill rule, they're jason fangays and they're crying because Batman put Jason in his place, and proved to them that Jason can't beat Batman in a fair fight, so cry about it😂😂😂😂
Why the hell is Batman so angry about this? I get it that Red Hood pretty much killed Penguin and it got caught on video. But if only Batman did some DETECTIVE WORK he would get why Jason killed him on the first place. I did not see him getting all pissed off about it when Batwoman killed Clayface. Batman is such a hypocrite.
ultrix soma yea everyone knows batman is hypocrit to his no killing in numerous occasions
Because Jason reminds him of the bad parts of himself
1) Penguin is not dead
2) RHATO Rebirth started with Bruce&Jason having an actual father-son moment and Jason had made the "no killing promise", he even managed to score a few big wins with his non lethal ways.
But then he relapsed and just shat over that promise&their relationship.
And Bruce did NOT kill the murderer(s) of his parents and fights every day against the urge to kill.
ultrix soma he’s a hypocrite CUZ THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO WRITE BATMAN sorry for yelling I just wanted to emphasis that cuz I’m angry (and I mean Batman didn’t kill his parents killer but he should at least talk to Jason)
merrick silverwolf Then the more i question why Batman got so fucking angry. If the Penguin is not dead, it means that Batman's anger was pointless. And the thing i was pointing out wasn't that Batman killed the murderer of his parents, but the fact that he lets people like Batwoman get away with murder but Jason killing for a way more valid reason is suddenly a no-no. And is not like he killed an ally of the fucking Bat-family like Clayface, Jason "killed" someone who pretty much doomed his father and then laughs about it. But Batman, the world's greatest detective, can't fucking understand why Jason decided to kill him on the first place.
I always wanted an expanded red hood and the out laws team there's so many misfit's in the DC universe I can definitely see it actually happening
Dc please dont kill jason todd again
They won't his going to go back to his pre 52 version
Jeez, just give him resurrection powers lol
Cry😂
Joker: kills Jason, Bruce's son
Batman: i won't kill him
Me: wtf
THIS WAS AMAZING!!! Thanksfor the complete story!!!!
0:30 *leans towards my phone hyped for the story to start*
-sQuaRE SPaCe-
Is it just me or does batman seem different to everyone? Like more violent than usual? Like he's being controlled or he is not "him"?
He did just dumped by his Fiance and Jasons face makes a nice punching bag apparently
@@bubbletroubles5234 just ask Joker's crowbar
@@kiddo6393 ouch you had to say it
that's what anger does to you
People aren't mad about Batman's no kill rule, they're jason fangays and they're crying because Batman put Jason in his place, and proved to them that Jason can't beat Batman in a fair fight. 😂😂😂😂cry about it kiddo.@@kiddo6393
That was awesome, but I have some questions.
1. Since Jasons dad is alive now, will they explore that story?
2. Will they start the story of jason searching for artemis and bizzaro in Jasons new book or will I have to read a completely separate book to find out how they will get back together?
This is the best comic ever!! Plus, Red Hood and the Outlaws comics aren’t done yet though. It’s still ongoing.
Dear DC please don’t make Jason the Punisher after all of his character development he has grown so much and is his own character
Also the mask is called his “hood” so he is putting a hood on his hood which is dumb don’t @ me
@Rhett M
RED HOOD they are turning you into the Punisher with hoods over your hoods
I feel like he needed to go back to basics he was starting to give me Dick Grayson vibes
Masks aren't hoods.
Munzur Baba DC Comics and Warner Bros refer to it as a “Hood” just like how Joker aka the og Red “Hood” used a “ *HOOD* “
Red hood shoots penguin: no more red hood.
Superman kills joker:
Batman declares him a bad guy.
Batman creates brother eye, puts together plans to take down his own team, hangs force-mutated monster from his batplane:
Wednesday. Anyone else feel like Batman's kind of a hypocrite?
Right on my B-day. Also, I’m calling it, that alternate reality that bizzaro and Artemis are in has something to do with Dr. Manhattan.
Loved that they included the grapple around the leg
I don’t mind the direction they wanted Jason to take, but I see it pointless for the Dark Trinity to be dissolved...bring them back DC 🖕🏽
love your channel keep up the good work
harper just shot batman lol
Why is it that when Damian kills someone it’s fine, but when Jason kills someone all hell breaks loose.
You’ll always love your own blood more and let them get away with more duh
Also I guess the Wonder Woman arc with Artemis happen after this ordeal.
It has to happen before, how can it happen after when Bizarro and Artemis are stuck in another earth ?
I genuinely love this series.
17:13 my thoughts exactly Jason
Indeed
Personal I never though those two would work
Personally such stuff don't help the story at all.
I can't wait to see 2M subscribers underneath your name Comicstorian !
Hall of Punishment.... Oh my I wonder what happened to Hall of Justice. I can safely assume they went into a future which is why the computer didn't detect them. I hope we get some sort of story following Artemis and Bizzaro that hopefully leads them back to Jason Todd.
It's weird. Jason's father hoped that Jason would become a prince of Gotham, and would have a father he could look up to.
He kinda did. Batman is the King of Gotham, even if people don't say it out of their mouths. Jason is his son (adoption or not), but it wasn't until he went off on his own that he becomes a prince. And Batman is definitely a father he could look up to, but it's normal to disagree with your parents. That's what happens when you grow up.