Why Dr. Manhattan VS Molecule Man Isn't Even Close!

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  • Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
  • Dr Manhattan vs Molecule Man! Two of the most powerful beings in all of comics - two universal, multiversal gods - well they’re going at it today! And in this epic fight between the two - well who’s ultimately gonna be coming out on top? Who’s gonna win it all? Well let’s get into it!
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Комментарии • 711

  • @indyspotes3310
    @indyspotes3310 Месяц назад +280

    This fight basically comes down to "first one to go back and
    blow up the lab before the other one's accident... wins"

    • @tulkis843
      @tulkis843 Месяц назад +25

      that wouldnt work on manhattan, he tried

    • @noahjones3955
      @noahjones3955 28 дней назад +13

      That wouldn’t work on manhattan, he exists in every time, basically like
      How Superman will always exist in DC even though he isn’t written into the reality like manhattan tried to do

    • @natecloudboiy4770
      @natecloudboiy4770 25 дней назад +6

      Molecule man beat beyonder so he beats dr manhattan

    • @tulkis843
      @tulkis843 25 дней назад +2

      @@natecloudboiy4770 how?

    • @shanedbunting
      @shanedbunting 23 дня назад

      Dr Manhattan is a game Genie , Molecule Man is bad fan fiction and therefore is so much more powerful.

  • @lillebarro3433
    @lillebarro3433 Месяц назад +466

    molecue man managed to put the entire omniverse inside the box so that should tell you how broken he is as character

    • @TheShock_Master99
      @TheShock_Master99 Месяц назад +78

      Pretty sure it was just the multiverse. I think the writer said he got confused with the definition of omniverse.
      That being said, it’s still a pretty OP feat.

    • @KENSHINSHOCK
      @KENSHINSHOCK Месяц назад +35

      Pre Retcon Molecule man also matched Pre- Retcon Beyonder= TOAA in that moment.

    • @e-heromanny4348
      @e-heromanny4348 Месяц назад +26

      I hate when writers do that cuz theres a BIG difference between a multiverse (everything Marvel or DC owns for example) and the omniverse (literally all of fiction, past present and future as well as our world)

    • @brrrr7268
      @brrrr7268 Месяц назад +5

      @@TheShock_Master99Okay what they meant isn't all of fiction sure but like as big as the entirety of marvel

    • @hecatomb1864
      @hecatomb1864 Месяц назад +5

      Only around Adult Frankin Richards was that powerful.

  • @DeathBYDesign666
    @DeathBYDesign666 Месяц назад +212

    It's not that Dr Manhattan doesn't have emotions, it's that he has become a transcendent being and feels that they are no longer necessary. They are no longer necessary tools for his survival but he does have feelings about certain things. His actual emotions are beyond our comprehension but he does have them. They aren't exactly non-existent, let's just say they are different than ours.

    • @tulkis843
      @tulkis843 Месяц назад +17

      you are right about manhattan having emotions but you are wrong about them being above ours, in fact its the opposite, manhattan just doesnt understand emotions very well which is why he said it was difficult to effects the green lantern ring, it wasnt due to a lack of power but lacking understanding of the emotion it was made up. But manhattan using his power to control the abstract concept of will is pretty crazy

    • @wildcard5269
      @wildcard5269 Месяц назад +5

      Remember that time he was on TV in a suit
      And All of those reporters were asking him a barrage of questions
      Next thing you know
      They were All erased when he became upset?

    • @tulkis843
      @tulkis843 Месяц назад +1

      @wildcard5269 he teleported them outside

    • @DeathBYDesign666
      @DeathBYDesign666 Месяц назад +1

      @tulkis843 I didn't say above exactly, I said beyond our understanding. Not quite the same thing.

    • @tulkis843
      @tulkis843 Месяц назад +2

      @@DeathBYDesign666 well its not beyond our understanding, manhattan is just disconnected and a bit of a sociopath, you could argue we wouldnt understand his disconnected point of view due to not seeing the world that way ourselves but that has nothing to do with understanding emotions.
      A blind person has the same amount of emotions as some one who can see even though their perception of the world is different, i can understand that a schizophrenic person is scared even if i cant understand what hes scared of, its all the same

  • @carsonmcbride5992
    @carsonmcbride5992 Месяц назад +175

    "Dr. Manhatten doesnt feel emotion" sir, the entire plot of The Watchman would say otherwise.

    • @nicholas-dv1mg
      @nicholas-dv1mg Месяц назад +19

      yea, he feals them, but every single emotion he has has infinite time to be felt, disected, and degraded, while waiting for the universe to be born to waiting in the void after creation, no day is a good day for him, no day is a bad day for him, it just is, it's like living a day that encompasses eternity.

    • @tulkis843
      @tulkis843 Месяц назад +9

      thats not the plot of watchmen, but you are right that he does have emotions

  • @VictorVonDoom.
    @VictorVonDoom. Месяц назад +207

    @18:41 isn’t true at all
    I killed The Beyonders. I was the one who set the trap to lure them out of their dimension (which they fell for)
    Also it was I who built the bomb that killed them.
    Richards, Tony Stark, Hank Pym and T'Challa all worked together and couldn’t figure out how to defeat them, but DOOM did.

    • @TomWoodgate
      @TomWoodgate Месяц назад +13

      Doom acknowledged that Reed would have done more than attempt to salvage what he could and rule it. At the same time, Reed was at a loss how to stop them (the Ivory Kings)
      Without Doom there would have been nothing to come back to.

    • @BradleyLodge
      @BradleyLodge Месяц назад +19

      Doom didn't get enough credit for solving the problem and salvaging what parts of the multiverse he could. Especially when no one could even begin to figure out how to stop them.

    • @AmonnRa
      @AmonnRa Месяц назад +4

      Bruh Doom is arrogant.

    • @SolidSpiderLink
      @SolidSpiderLink Месяц назад +16

      Thank you for posting Mr. Doom 😅👍
      Can I get dual citizenship with Latveria? 🙏
      😂😂😂✌️

    • @joegrizzlyyt1073
      @joegrizzlyyt1073 Месяц назад +7

      You call it arrogance I call it him being honest. Modesty is overrated

  • @bobitzathegodofcomedy5979
    @bobitzathegodofcomedy5979 Месяц назад +72

    So glad to finally see a battle with Owen Reese.

  • @scottmadoff7444
    @scottmadoff7444 Месяц назад +47

    Danco you really really spent a lot of time on research for this one,
    thank you

  • @BradnarPaxDei
    @BradnarPaxDei Месяц назад +83

    The problem with this one is we've only seen Dr Manhattan a few times ever. Aside from the Bathattan, which really isnt him, we never see him even to begin to exert himself. Everything is a wave of his hand. He potentially could win this one, just doesn't have the feats to back it up yet. Great video.

    • @CBrown
      @CBrown Месяц назад +15

      This. I think he could or would win. It would just be a matter of who waved their hand first.

    • @Doomslayer-3
      @Doomslayer-3 Месяц назад +16

      @BradnarPaxDei dr.manhatten never showed his true potential. Every feat he has was done with him holding back.For what we know, he might be comparable to characters like Lucifer and Michael

    • @AlrightyOancer
      @AlrightyOancer Месяц назад

      Dr Manhattan is more powerful than bathattan.
      To give you a idea of his power, with only some of it the justice league stalemated a weakened perpetua aka the creator of the DC multiverse who created her sons by ripping pieces out of the overvoid while she was weak.
      Dr.Manhattan bullies molecule man

    • @jamesmcclaren9759
      @jamesmcclaren9759 Месяц назад +9

      His handicap kind of makes him a poor match for most on his tier. I almost would rather see myxlpytylyk vs Molecule man

    • @Doomslayer-3
      @Doomslayer-3 Месяц назад +9

      @jamesmcclaren9759 that I can give too molecule men easily because you just have to say his name backwards to beat him, and for a person who can warp reality, that's easy

  • @wannabeangler
    @wannabeangler Месяц назад +15

    DM is everywhere all the time existing in every timeline and could just erase MM before he became a threat.

    • @DELT1407
      @DELT1407 29 дней назад +14

      MM by this moment is already outside of all time, space and creation, he is literally outside of the Omniverse. What you say is nonsense, accept the reality, DC Fanboy.

    • @OBELISK3210
      @OBELISK3210 28 дней назад +4

      Can’t erase something that lives outside of time. Not how it works Lol

  • @EastHaki89
    @EastHaki89 Месяц назад +22

    Goat tier breakdown. Molecule man always been my favorite marvel character along with silver surfer and sentry

  • @GOKUbLACLIVESMATERS
    @GOKUbLACLIVESMATERS Месяц назад +17

    FRANKLIN RICHARDS VS DR MANHATTAN WOULD OF BEEN A BETTER DEBATE

    • @tulkis843
      @tulkis843 Месяц назад +6

      manhattan wins, honestly this really should have been a draw since there isnt really anyway to beat manhattan

  • @macalcord
    @macalcord Месяц назад +48

    Defeating The Beyonder isn't that impressive when Franklin Richards just barely older than a toddler defeated him just by saying. "You're Bad, Go Away!" Then scattered his atoms across the universe.

    • @Ameort-y3g
      @Ameort-y3g 29 дней назад +17

      It's impressive when you realise base beyonder is an Infinite dimensional being shown in comics

    • @noahgelfarb3867
      @noahgelfarb3867 29 дней назад +12

      A that was Post-retcon half of a comic cube Beyonder. Not even close to the one that Molecule Man fought.

    • @d_izzyy
      @d_izzyy 28 дней назад +23

      Beyonder has been nerfed so much, his true form wipes most marvel characters.

    • @Kloutkulture
      @Kloutkulture 22 дня назад +9

      Do you realize how insanely broken Franklin Richards is????

    • @ItsClout_
      @ItsClout_ 20 дней назад +2

      @@Kloutkulturestill not beating pre-retcon beyonder

  • @lucidjar
    @lucidjar Месяц назад +59

    Molecule man being more powerful is likely true. But saying it is not even close is not accurate. Their powersets have significant overlap and can simulate each other. I think your style of focusing on relative defeats and narrative feat comparisons does not scale to this power-level. It is possible to write a consistent story without contrivance in which Dr Manhattan wins, even though multiversal feats favor Molecule Man, just as a matter of their powersets.
    I think, at this level, it's no longer possible to talk about clear and definitive winners. The fact is both entities have minute control over physical forces, but Dr Manhattan has control over fundamental forces, while Molecule man is, well, described in terms of just molecular control but also unspecified reality warping. It's unclear which wins while maintaining universal coherence. Both are at a cosmic scale while maintaining a non-linear relationship with time. No chance it's not even close.

    • @richmanezihuo7214
      @richmanezihuo7214 Месяц назад +8

      Well written...
      It's like saying one omnipotent being can beat the next omnipotent being...
      MM even got his powers given while Dr. M has his own intact and he is still discovering where he fits in creation. Like a child, making mistakes and correcting it.
      He only lacks feats but his power sets are no joke!
      Using DK to base of him can be misleading!

    • @Aryan-rt4de
      @Aryan-rt4de Месяц назад +7

      Well molecule man at his best was equal to the beyonder Dr Manhattan isn't even close to Lucifer or Michael he hasn't shown any feats in level of molecule man

    • @richmanezihuo7214
      @richmanezihuo7214 Месяц назад +5

      @@Aryan-rt4de That I will agree... (The part of him not showing fest at higher level) But molecule needed the power of the beyonders to reach that level and he can't even exist in the Past present and future... Only the one above all can... Meaning Dr. M can mess up his story line. And get the win.

    • @Aryan-rt4de
      @Aryan-rt4de Месяц назад

      @@richmanezihuo7214 do you realize that molecule man is a experiment created by beyonders meaning his powers belong to the beyond realm and the realm is out of such concepts like time if he was bounded by time pretty sure cosmic entities like Tribunal would have judged him easily

    • @rishavrai99999
      @rishavrai99999 Месяц назад +1

      One can control molecules and other one can control all connective forces of THE GOD (and energy)

  • @Fred-zk3wv
    @Fred-zk3wv Месяц назад +5

    In this battle no one wins the war until protege shows up from marvel. Protege is the ultimate of them all.

  • @magnum7385
    @magnum7385 28 дней назад +2

    This was exceptionally well done. You earned my subscription.

  • @Tofu-oq9mh
    @Tofu-oq9mh 29 дней назад +7

    so Dr. Manhattan made Superman wear his underwear the right way 😆

  • @AbleJunior-c1r
    @AbleJunior-c1r Месяц назад +6

    You finally answer my prayer.... 🎉🎉🎉🎉😊.
    This is the first Molecule Man fight in this channel, hoping to see more of this character

  • @jonbog6479
    @jonbog6479 Месяц назад +14

    1:21 never have to deal with traffic is a next level superpower

  • @Beedbit
    @Beedbit Месяц назад +9

    one of these where i was surprised to learn the outcome!

  • @Mimic_45
    @Mimic_45 Месяц назад +10

    Robbie Reyes (Marvel) VS Jaimie Reyes (DC)
    These two are very similar and have been compared to each other quite a lot. Both are latino teenagers who get possessed by a powerful, murderous being, and become a legacy superhero. Who's the most powerful of the two?

    • @Daverast01
      @Daverast01 Месяц назад +7

      Ghost Rider Stomps Blue Beetle it's not even close

    • @zicc616
      @zicc616 Месяц назад +3

      Lol what? Thats downplayed. Ghost Rider murders blue beetle lmao

    • @groudonfanatic9146
      @groudonfanatic9146 20 дней назад

      Not really because, Jaime stomps lol.

  • @lordodin1973
    @lordodin1973 Месяц назад +71

    And yet, Molecule Man gets whipped by Sentry, shortly after Sentry was fine-tuning his powers of matter manipulation while MM had literal decades of experience. Makes no sense

  • @rubbercable
    @rubbercable 25 дней назад +3

    comic rule: edgiest character wins.
    the 40K of superhero IPs

  • @JushSam
    @JushSam Месяц назад +12

    Finally Molecule man got the respect he deserved his so broken that's why the writters put him as a background character😂🤣no major event he was on he's so cool and op

    • @JF..
      @JF.. Месяц назад +1

      Didn’t sersi of the eternals wiped the floor with him? Sersi has expressed difficulty in rearranging sub-atomic matter. So broken my A$$! 😂

    • @surfergemini1667
      @surfergemini1667 21 день назад

      @@JF..he wasn’t operating at his best and at his best sersi gets pissed on, he’s wayyy beyond high ominversal

    • @JF..
      @JF.. 21 день назад

      @@surfergemini1667 show me where it says he wasn’t operating at his best?

    • @surfergemini1667
      @surfergemini1667 21 день назад

      @@JF.. u just gave me a feat and when sentry used his own matter manipulation against him, there’s context to that, this is why he’s always a background character bc in reality he’s way too strong for even the avengers and all the heroes of earth bruh

    • @JF..
      @JF.. 21 день назад

      @@surfergemini1667 The same for Dr.M. Team justice league including Superman together could not beat him, he literally toy with them. I know a lot of characters that have beaten MM. SERSI in-fact beat MM. Sentry beat him bc of his vulnerabilities and not some context as to why it happened. You could argue bad writing or inconsistent power scaling in the marvel verse.

  • @mikefoster6018
    @mikefoster6018 Месяц назад +16

    Kang vs Black Bolt

  • @joshuasosa97
    @joshuasosa97 Месяц назад +13

    Been waiting for this battle for a long time now.

  • @KennethBishop
    @KennethBishop Месяц назад +8

    I've been saying this since 87', the Molecule Man is the most powerful character I have read.

  • @xNekomander
    @xNekomander Месяц назад +31

    how the hell can you sleep and store an omnipotent guy that percives time like dr.manhattan dude

    • @Grootsleftacorn
      @Grootsleftacorn Месяц назад +15

      1. Even manhattan is made of molecules. 2. The same way they created colder than space environments on earth to cool down quantum computing processors. If you can manipulate the environment and/or the very thing your made of then I’d see how it’s possible

    • @xNekomander
      @xNekomander Месяц назад +4

      @Grootsleftacorn sure but you're forgetting the whole seeing the future thing tho

    • @leroysmith8741
      @leroysmith8741 Месяц назад +8

      ​@@xNekomanderIf you stop time, is there a future to be seen?

    • @chankanyy924
      @chankanyy924 Месяц назад +3

      @@leroysmith8741he’ll see it before you stop time

    • @actionjackson8689
      @actionjackson8689 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@chankanyy924 So, that means Dr Manhattan would see that he can't beat molecule man and just avoid him or face the inevitable, his demise.

  • @darenabryant9100
    @darenabryant9100 Месяц назад +4

    I feel like you wandered off the topic when it came to Dr. Manhattan just enough to try to reinforce your claim that molecule man was the stronger of the two. You never really brought them together to have them fight or compete in any way. What would happen is Dr. Manhattan came to Molecule Man's reality? Instead we talked about someone else and how powerful they were.
    In the end, it doesn't really matter. Stan Lee said it best, that he hated when people asked 'who would win between these people?' Because the answer is always 'Whoever the writer wants to win.'

  • @afro_princess1671
    @afro_princess1671 Месяц назад +12

    Not even close. Molecule Man is far superior in every way

    • @tulkis843
      @tulkis843 Месяц назад +2

      manhattan wins in good writing

  • @Tupacmofo231
    @Tupacmofo231 Месяц назад +11

    You gotta do the presence vs The one above all

    • @scottiegang2236
      @scottiegang2236 Месяц назад +3

      Dats a stalemate

    • @AlrightyOancer
      @AlrightyOancer Месяц назад +2

      ​@scottiegang2236Not really, the presence isn't the king of dc at least not the greater omniverse.
      He stated himself that he was created by somebody or a higher power, and sandman cosmology gets confusing when you pair it up with dc cosmology.

    • @BarbarianXD
      @BarbarianXD 19 дней назад

      ​@@AlrightyOancerhe never said that. They are equal.

    • @AlrightyOancer
      @AlrightyOancer 18 дней назад

      @@BarbarianXD Yes there are multiple statements by the presence that someone else created him.
      Just read any sandman comic and you'll see one.

    • @BarbarianXD
      @BarbarianXD 18 дней назад

      @@AlrightyOancer they're all taken out of context. Tell me the statements you're talking of and I'll tell you why that's not the case.

  • @PoeticSonic
    @PoeticSonic Месяц назад +13

    that's why i always said the scentry is not a bootleg version of superman he's marvel's answer to Dr manhattan, DC uplifts heroes into godlike beings meanwhile marvels humanizes godlike beings. dr manhattan had his accident in a lab that changed his body fundamentally and he became coldly calculated and started to do the macanations in the backgrounds like a god.
    meanwhile in a lab accident the scenery's body was changed fundamentally his powers are actually the same as the molecule man and Dr manhattan, but like the molecule man he's insane and his power changes depending on his state of mind.
    but I think that as of now the molecule man is stronger since his powers are external to the marvel multiverse meanwhile I believe that the powers are rooted in the marvel multiverse.

    • @AKONP5
      @AKONP5 Месяц назад +5

      Got his ass beat by sentry who cant beat Superman so I'm taking dr manhattan

    • @rupeniugavule3479
      @rupeniugavule3479 Месяц назад +3

      It's pretty much the opposite. Marvel humans are trying to be gods while dc "humans" are gods trying to be human e.g superman, wonder woman, flash, etc.. And the sentry beat a weaker version of molecule man. Still a huge feat since sentry was a little unstable. Also, the molecule man got his powers from the beyonders. They created each molecule man and send him to each universe to serve as a bomb. His powers are from the beyond realm. That's the only reason pre-retcon ML was able to stand a chance against pre-retcon beyonder.

    • @TheBigHead_23
      @TheBigHead_23 Месяц назад +1

      Root for MM

    • @thewatchmenz
      @thewatchmenz Месяц назад

      well anyways, dc is insignificant😂

    • @thewatchmenz
      @thewatchmenz Месяц назад

      dc is insignificant, simple

  • @elishaMshombozi-r2w
    @elishaMshombozi-r2w Месяц назад +7

    Dr manhattan cant die

  • @chriskillian9033
    @chriskillian9033 21 день назад +1

    It's not that Sentry is more powerful than MM, it's that Sentry constantly exists outside of time. This basically gives Sentry a bit of a cheat code to survive.

  • @vincentclark5739
    @vincentclark5739 Месяц назад +1

    What if it’s not only the freak accident, but Dr Manhattan experiencing something everyone else if fundamentally missing while at the quantum level. He truly understands how space time works and what looks powers to us is attainable to anyone in The Watchmen universe who can fully grasp those concepts

  • @Wukong-y6w
    @Wukong-y6w Месяц назад +32

    Molecule Man is far beyond multiversal, he took on The Beyonder. Owen is erasing Dr. Manhattan easily

    • @nicksonleslie7366
      @nicksonleslie7366 Месяц назад +8

      😂😂

    • @Antispiralbecomesadoughnut
      @Antispiralbecomesadoughnut Месяц назад +1

      The fact that on of the Beyonders is at least outerversal

    • @BARDOCK550
      @BARDOCK550 Месяц назад +14

      How? Dr. Manhattan doesn't even need a body he exists everywhere. The avatar he uses are merely a representation of his consciousness.

    • @Wukong-y6w
      @Wukong-y6w Месяц назад +8

      @@BARDOCK550 You do realize that Dr Manhattan is dead right?

    • @richmanezihuo7214
      @richmanezihuo7214 Месяц назад

      U can't erase what is not their... Captain Atom who is more power with His Quantum power to the matter manipulation of Sentry erased Dr. M and he came together immediately. So how u gonna erase that?
      U just talk without facts.

  • @markofrankenstein1627
    @markofrankenstein1627 Месяц назад +32

    Molecule man vs Marquis of death

    • @afro_princess1671
      @afro_princess1671 Месяц назад +2

      Definitely Molecule Man. MoD is at Infinity Gems at best, feat wise

    • @SpiffyYuh
      @SpiffyYuh Месяц назад +2

      @@afro_princess1671 thats a horrendus observation lol

    • @markofrankenstein1627
      @markofrankenstein1627 Месяц назад +4

      @@afro_princess1671 he travels the multiverse wiping away realities for fun

    • @oluwadamilola6233
      @oluwadamilola6233 Месяц назад +1

      Marquis only beat an avatar of molecule man from his universe not the full being. Composite /full power molecule man is easily top 5 in marvel..marquis isn't even in top 15

    • @michaelthomas4249
      @michaelthomas4249 Месяц назад +5

      ​@@oluwadamilola6233Marquis is definitely in the top 15 lol what are you talking about? 😂. Your scaling bias is showing and way off. He is above Matthew M and he is top 10.

  • @140theguy
    @140theguy Месяц назад +8

    I've asked for this one for a long time! Thank you for doing it justice Danco. 👍👍

  • @jamesmcclaren9759
    @jamesmcclaren9759 Месяц назад +1

    Dr Manhattan has so few emotions that nothing he makes even makes sense. Ironic.

  • @DocBlue005
    @DocBlue005 Месяц назад +15

    This take is so backwards Bro, had me face palming hard🤦‍♂️
    First: Dr. M,. can see past present and future. So any move MM would make, DM would be already aware of it
    Second: DM's Body is just an avatar, he can't be touched, and he can be any place in the universe at any time and can be at multiple places at once.
    Third: MM still has a physical body.
    DM manipulates matter at a sub atomic level at the speed of thought.
    DM wins any day of the week

    • @AlrightyOancer
      @AlrightyOancer Месяц назад +8

      This isn't even the case honestly, only some of manhattan's power was used to fight perpetua. Mr.mxy is scared of manhattan and that's enough powerscaling right there.
      This debate is not close idk what the people in this comment section who're defending mm are even thinking, and i've got no opinion on the video.

    • @JOKER-bl4rd
      @JOKER-bl4rd Месяц назад +5

      Marvel's classic comic feats of heroes and villains were op, but in the new Marvel reboot they are all weaker, Danco used classic Molecule Man's feats to make him as impressive as Dr. M, but in the new Marvel multiple Molecule man were inslaved by Emprior Dr Doom all by himself. He never uses classic DC feats like Superman destroying a solar system with just a sneeze because he is a Marvel fan boy

    • @Daveyboy_RS3
      @Daveyboy_RS3 Месяц назад +2

      Molecule man can edit and reorder the building blocks of all creation. Yes he does have a human body, And yes Manhattan can see his own past present and future at once.
      But with molecule man possessing the power of the ENTIRE race of Beyonders, Even if Manhattan could see what was coming, I doubt there would be anything he could do to stop it as it would even be too far "beyond" his comprehension.
      Keeping in mind that Manhattan is science-based, generally following the rules of the universe/multiverse and is still governed by the laws of said verse....yet molecule mans powers infinitely transcend the multiverse, somethin Manhattan is not familiar with. The "Beyondverse"

    • @noahgelfarb3867
      @noahgelfarb3867 29 дней назад +3

      Literally all of this applies to Molecule man too, except Molecule Man does it at the Narrative Level. We saw a Single Beyonder easily overpower GoS Loki, and Molecule Man>>>>A beyonder

    • @DocBlue005
      @DocBlue005 29 дней назад

      @noahgelfarb3867 The fact remains, MM has a physical body, DM does not, that thing you see is just an avatar he builds for others to see, even if you managed to destroy his body he'll rebuild it no problems. If MM gets turned into canned tuna, thats it, its over.
      And DM can see anything MM will do before he does it and change it if he wants to. it would be like what Dr. Strange did with Darmamu.

  • @groudonfanatic9146
    @groudonfanatic9146 20 дней назад +1

    Putting Molecule Man above Dr. Manhattan shows a lack of scaling abilities LMFAO.

  • @dreddthaseeker6492
    @dreddthaseeker6492 23 дня назад

    We need to get an AI to put some of these battles together and see what it says. No writers. No guessing. No plot armor. No emotion or favoritism. Pure logic.

  • @manemane1ful
    @manemane1ful 24 дня назад +6

    Dr. Manhattan calmly turning Mavel comics back into Timley comics...

  • @peterwilson4865
    @peterwilson4865 17 дней назад +1

    PR Molecule Man negs.

  • @Jeartozer
    @Jeartozer 29 дней назад +6

    If memory serves, Dr. Manhattan isnt even a DC character, at least originally... so the fact that he has done so much manipulation of a multiverse that isnt even his turf puts him in a league of his own... omniversal on a different level. Bro is able to be in and control other multiverses.

  • @MMOsForLife
    @MMOsForLife Месяц назад +4

    While Sentry wrecked Molecule Man.

  • @Paratzi
    @Paratzi 29 дней назад +1

    Superman beats Goku.
    Cabba beats Gogeta.
    Molecule man beats Manhattan.
    How come the character I like ALWAYS lose 😔

  • @lsg2535
    @lsg2535 Месяц назад +2

    Dr manhattan technically can’t loose because his consciousness isn’t within his bodies those are like fragments of him

  • @bankhead832
    @bankhead832 Месяц назад +4

    this the most satisfying video u have ever made me as amarvel fan dc fanboys are gonna hate this video lmao i guess speed wasnt a factor here lmao

    • @nicksonleslie7366
      @nicksonleslie7366 Месяц назад +5

      😂😂 you don't even have to be a fan to understand that manhattan wins, the dude has never lost and will never if you were a marvel fan you should have read the comics yourself 😂

    • @MasterChiefSierra117-ce4uu
      @MasterChiefSierra117-ce4uu Месяц назад +2

      ​@@nicksonleslie7366 DC characters are always stronger than Marvel characters. I dont know why marvel fanboys still debate this. 😂😂😂

  • @micill3578
    @micill3578 22 дня назад

    the most geeky video I've ever seen thanks man

  • @Painisforever0
    @Painisforever0 Месяц назад +9

    L Take he said it’s not even close Dr Manhattan scales to the 6th dimension

    • @bottlekapp123
      @bottlekapp123 Месяц назад

      @@Painisforever0 another dr manhattan hater coping thats all.

    • @ok-jq1jh
      @ok-jq1jh Месяц назад +1

      the "6th dimension" isn't just 6 dimensions just so you know. It's the entire DC verse, all of it's past infinite universes and infinite dimensions, and more being labeled into just 6 "dimensions" or "realms" to simplify the story telling.

    • @AlrightyOancer
      @AlrightyOancer Месяц назад +4

      The sixth dimension beings see the sphere of gods as fiction, heck perpetua who's the strongest of them can rip pieces from the overvoid and fight all of her sons combined while weak!
      mm gets slaughtered

  • @AvangionQ
    @AvangionQ 21 день назад

    "God is an American" ... has always been such a frightful thought.

  • @knighthonor44
    @knighthonor44 Месяц назад +2

    Dr Manhattan wins imo. Perpetua is omniverse tier. She created the multiverse. Dr Manhattan reshaped the whole multiverse. I say Mr Mix is Beyonder tier and Dr Manhattan is way beyond that

    • @Liam-ct8ep
      @Liam-ct8ep Месяц назад +3

      Mxy is impossible man tier. Ain't no way you believe he is comparable to the beyonder. That's crazy. Cosmic cubes have replicated mxys best feat.

    • @Snod2k5
      @Snod2k5 Месяц назад

      Wtf?😂

  • @TheDjbenton
    @TheDjbenton Месяц назад +4

    Wolverine (MCU) vs Black Panther (Chadwick Boseman)

    • @dougbeauford174
      @dougbeauford174 Месяц назад

      Logan wins cause Storm is Married to Tachalla but chooses to be with Wolverine.

  • @nadiamond
    @nadiamond 23 дня назад

    Dr manhattan was NOT a lab assistant lol, he was a scientist who was working on the intrinsic field generator.

  • @nathanieljoseph157
    @nathanieljoseph157 Месяц назад +1

    Why are regular humans surviving freak accidents and gaining unimaginable powers...

  • @wallywest5186
    @wallywest5186 Месяц назад +7

    Dcs cosmology > marvels cosmology. Dr manhattan washes MM and its not *close.*

    • @noahgelfarb3867
      @noahgelfarb3867 29 дней назад +6

      No, not close Marvel >>>>DC . The DC Multiverse is but the size of a Marvel Universe

    • @BigCheezy7
      @BigCheezy7 29 дней назад +3

      @@noahgelfarb3867😂😂😂 False

    • @noahgelfarb3867
      @noahgelfarb3867 29 дней назад +4

      @@BigCheezy7 nope, I scale both verses for fun. A Marvel Universe is a type 4 Multiverse with infinite Universes, Infinite R>F Transcendences, and its own archetypes and concepts. A DC Multiverse doesn't even have all of this, it takes getting to the DC Omniverse to get to this level

    • @DELT1407
      @DELT1407 29 дней назад +3

      ​@@noahgelfarb3867Correct

    • @wallywest5186
      @wallywest5186 29 дней назад

      @@noahgelfarb3867 that is complete fabrication none of what you said is even remotely true nor can it be verified in comics. The dcs cosmology has more dimensional layers than the marvel multiverse. DC's Multiverse is widely regarded as being more intricate than Marvel's. Firstly, it comprises infinite universes, allowing writers much creative freedom. Unlike Marvel, where most stories occur within the central universe.
      Go and do your research on the history between marvel and DC. The only reason marvel started expanding upon their universes and doing alternate universe storylines was to compete with DC which makes the DCs infinitely expanding universes larger than marvels because it has been around for much longer.
      All that so called "scaling" you claim to do is nothing more than fan canon and misinterpreting information.

  • @leroysmith8741
    @leroysmith8741 Месяц назад +10

    But it isn't close. Molecule Man is more powerful.

    • @DocBlue005
      @DocBlue005 Месяц назад +8

      First: Dr. M,. can see past present and future. So any move MM would make, DM would be already aware of it
      Second: DM's Body is just an avatar, he can't be touched, and he can be any place in the universe at any time and can be at multiple places at once.
      Third: MM still has a physical body.
      DM manipulates mater at a sub atomic level at the speed of thought l.
      DM wins any day of the week

    • @Snod2k5
      @Snod2k5 Месяц назад

      Yeah Molecule man destroy, not even funny.

    • @Aryan-rt4de
      @Aryan-rt4de Месяц назад +3

      ​@@DocBlue005seeing past present or future is pretty useless when you can't change it Dr Manhattan just have matter and energy manipulation but on lesser scale, MM have actual reality wrapping power he created an omniverse and can erase all of dc

    • @tyrannicaltypomichaeltester
      @tyrannicaltypomichaeltester 29 дней назад +4

      ​@@DocBlue005 No MM can do everything Dr can do but on an even higher scale so sorry for your Loss

  • @apcollection6624
    @apcollection6624 25 дней назад +1

    Dr. Manhattan wins😈

  • @rishavrai99999
    @rishavrai99999 Месяц назад +3

    I think dr Manhattan got quantum connection bcz of accident and then he was able to take control of connective forces of DC(powers which were need of perpetua for creation of DC)
    Molecule man can control molecules but dr Manhattan can control Quarks(so energy and atoms... At greater level)
    The darkest knight was not equal to dr Manhattan bcz dr Manhattan kinda went to that level before batman(so dr Manhattan got powers of connective forces.... The darkest knight only has control over energy flow(not connective forces)
    (golden wonder woman had connective forces vs energy control of darkest knight).. Both together were dr Manhattan

    • @nigelbryan7312
      @nigelbryan7312 Месяц назад

      Lol molecule man controls not only molecules,but energy and atoms as well on huge levels infact infinite levels

  • @JA-ng7yo
    @JA-ng7yo Месяц назад +2

    Mad Jim Jaspers and The Fury vs. Doomsday. How would that go?

  • @DeathBYDesign666
    @DeathBYDesign666 Месяц назад +2

    How about DM vs SCP 3812 while we're at it? I mean I know 3812 would win easily by simply breaking past his narrative, but Manhattan does have that ability as well technically, but it would be interesting since they technically have the same origins as humans who died and touched the outer void and came back as transcendent beings. It's entirely possible this gives them the same powers.

    • @uncroppedsoop
      @uncroppedsoop 17 дней назад +1

      Dr. Manhattan having the ability to ascend narrative layers is something I've sure never heard of, but even if he can do that, for 3812 it's not an ability, it's a constant, and it's already starting off an incomprehensible amount beyond DM's own narrative level. 3812 basically gets second in command control over the entire story of anything it's in, next to only the actual literal real-world writer. 3812 will even surpass a character who represents the author in-universe. not even TOAA could stand a chance

    • @DeathBYDesign666
      @DeathBYDesign666 17 дней назад

      @uncroppedsoop Well think about it for a moment, prime DC is a different entire layer of narratives than the watchmen universe so that's at least one instance of what I said. He is at very least aware of the narrative structure of the DC multiverse and is technically a different one than where he originated, I'm just putting 2 and 2 together.

  • @haros2868
    @haros2868 Месяц назад +11

    Arguably dr manhattan is low complex multiversal, with some stats being moon level. Even mcu thanos has greater feats. Supposed precognition, yet tachyons break his prediction powers. YET most dc characters travel at thousand times the speed of light. The only canon and logical assumption I can accept is he has nonlinear time vision only within his own little universe, inside multiverse, inside the Overvoid. Below the final heaven, below the crack. Arguably one of the lamest characters. The only possibility I believe one can support this character is due to homosexual tendencies but I'm not judging and I dont care about the perversions of random people in the internet. Molecule man one taps doomsday clock Manhattan.
    Edit: preschool naked blue man supporters in my replies, haven't you ran out of tears already? Where do you store them? Its so many liters.
    Edit twice: If you have absolutely nothing to say about this topic don't just rage bait on me in the responses. This obsession with the naked blue man is borderline religious! A "guy" down there said mandrakk is not dax novu and that im "high" to say that... Nonsense, and its irrelevant for supporting Manhattan anyways! Nonsense to the power of ²

    • @tulkis843
      @tulkis843 Месяц назад +1

      nice bait

    • @haros2868
      @haros2868 Месяц назад +1

      @tulkis843 what bait?

    • @Doomslayer-3
      @Doomslayer-3 Месяц назад +1

      Ahh yes. A character that can erase the entire dc metaverse and recreated it with a thought is complex multiversel. With that logic molecule man is universal. Dr manhatten only can lose too character like the Toaa or the presence every other character gets cooked

    • @haros2868
      @haros2868 Месяц назад +2

      @@Doomslayer-3 keep crying metaverse kid. Keep crying... Dr gayhatan is not even top 250 in dc. Seriously. I'll not argue

    • @Doomslayer-3
      @Doomslayer-3 Месяц назад

      @haros2868 defenetly he doesn't rank 250 in dc just like gaylacule men doesn't even rank 1000 in marvel. Do you even understand that every feat that molecule men has, Dr manhatten can do with a thought.Also, didn't molecule man lose to sentry, whose just solar system level🤣🤣🤣.And he's beating dr manhatten who easily reaches outverse.Keep glazing kid

  • @georgeandre3114
    @georgeandre3114 Месяц назад +2

    Chill guys danco can't know everything

  • @Omega_Ultima
    @Omega_Ultima 18 дней назад

    To be fair, everybody eventually loses to The Sentry.
    That being said, no character has ever beaten Dr. Manhattan except Dr. Manhattan.
    Molecule Man suffers from being at the whim of time; being stuck in one single timeline multiverse.
    Dr. Manhattan exists in all timelines and therefore all multiverses simultaneously.
    Dr. Manhattan edges this one out.

  • @TEPMOBETEP
    @TEPMOBETEP 29 дней назад +1

    It is like the question: What is bigger, infinite amount of 1 dollar bills, or infinite amount of 20 dollar bills?
    Infinity is a whole set, nothing is bigger, money is infinite either way.

    • @ucbrowser2447
      @ucbrowser2447 22 дня назад

      The latter is bigger, Infinities have sizes

    • @TEPMOBETEP
      @TEPMOBETEP 22 дня назад

      @ucbrowser2447 no, infinity is a whole set at once. You are not drawing through infinity, moving through bills and counting money value. You recieve infinity all at once. Infinity of 1-s or infinity of 20-s - it is infinite set, which is undefined and infinately big in both cases equally.

  • @blackmanhulk605
    @blackmanhulk605 Месяц назад +5

    Molacue would kick his ass.

  • @HSV_Brolly
    @HSV_Brolly Месяц назад +5

    You actually sounds more like a stalemate either one of them could actually undo their erasesure and just sit there letting everyone think they've been beaten without the other knowing they didn't win completely. But I'm an idiot so what do I know.

    • @gustaafargoan
      @gustaafargoan Месяц назад +2

      At least you admit it.

    • @HSV_Brolly
      @HSV_Brolly Месяц назад +1

      @gustaafargoan thank you

    • @thetf8142
      @thetf8142 Месяц назад

      Mm just had better scaling than Dr Manhattan

  • @icowrich
    @icowrich 14 дней назад

    Dr. Manhattan was modeled on Captain Atom, though.

  • @Daveyboy_RS3
    @Daveyboy_RS3 Месяц назад

    MM can edit and reorder the building blocks of ALL creation.

  • @Bropaul-xy1it
    @Bropaul-xy1it Месяц назад

    Good video Danco

  • @lyndellhutchinson2510
    @lyndellhutchinson2510 Месяц назад

    Imagine Zack Snyder never made the JL movie we know but instead made Doomsday clock live action I feel like it would have been well received because The Watchman movie felt so real and grounded

  • @blakpulp1366
    @blakpulp1366 Месяц назад

    Dr. Manhattan only sees time as it affects him, I thought. So if he's not involved, he doesn't know

    • @tulkis843
      @tulkis843 Месяц назад +1

      but if he doesnt know then it doesnt effect him, so its not really a weakness

    • @blakpulp1366
      @blakpulp1366 Месяц назад

      @tulkis843 not saying it's a weaknesses but just that his time vision has limits. Like if he's not on mars he should have no concept of what's happening there for example

  • @thetf8142
    @thetf8142 Месяц назад

    Keep in mind, Owen Reece threatened to erase an amped Galactus “life bringer” with a thought
    And made a pocket dimension outside of cosmic beings awareness

  • @jasonchiu272
    @jasonchiu272 Месяц назад

    I would love to hear Bugs Bunny and Molecule Man talk with each other. I wonder how well that will turn out for reality...

  • @Minecraft_at_Night
    @Minecraft_at_Night Месяц назад +1

    Debatable...
    The "Beyonders" are obviously weaker than THE BEYONDER who was stronger than the Molecule Man when they were separate as explained in Fantastic Four 319 (aka Secret Wars 3). That issue explained that OG Beyonder was the larger half of a cosmic cube and Molecule Man the weaker half.
    In modern comics he seems to have grown more powerful than he was for some reason, but then they nerfed OG Beyonder in an attempt to make the new Beyonders seem more powerful (it didn't work). Basically modern comics are a mess and the writing is off the charts inconsistent.

  • @keemerbecks3941
    @keemerbecks3941 Месяц назад +1

    Molecue Man wins easily. NUFF SAID

  • @bikescarsandeverythinginbe7309
    @bikescarsandeverythinginbe7309 9 дней назад

    Squirrel girl is laughing at these 2 lightweights.

  • @kingjames846
    @kingjames846 Месяц назад +5

    The naked DR stomp , the man of crazy hairs!

  • @h3was547
    @h3was547 29 дней назад

    Dr. Manhatten absolutely can feel, or he wouldn't bother doing anything.
    He is still very human because he seeks companionship with the 3 women he formed relationships with.
    He is in multiple timelines simultaneously, and this is aka omnipresent existence & being omnipotent.
    One could argue we all are made of the same elements, so we are all connected, and also omnipotent even if we can't comprehend it.
    Dr. Manhatten was not "formed", he reformed himself.
    This character deserves another better worded video.
    People always say Dr. Manhatten is the only being with super power in the Watchmen universe, but that is incorrect.
    We need to understand that Dr. Manhatten exist in a universe that has super genius, highly skilled people, and super strengthed beings. Dr. Manhatten is simply the only godly being.
    The concept of God or his will working through us makes us all godly.
    People believe we are in God's image, so in that sense we mortals are godly.
    God not existing in the Watchmen universe is very debatable, just like in our own universe.

  • @yozarian86
    @yozarian86 19 дней назад

    The problem is a lot of these feats for Manhattan are someone else using an imitation of his power. We don’t know if he could do more himself or not. Just too much unknown

  • @broosewain3
    @broosewain3 Месяц назад +3

    18:01 buzzlightyear am I right 😅

  • @MT-UK
    @MT-UK Месяц назад +1

    Thing is about using the Batman who Laughs and what he was able to do to say what Dr Manhatten could do isnt fair imo because we dont actually know if Dr M would be able ti do those things.
    the Batman Who Laughs has the intellect of Bruce Wayne & all his skills as well as the insanity of the Joker..
    Thats a personaility no one can match 😂 and if he had prep time! Well, i dont think Dr M full powered could beat him 😉

    • @knighthonor44
      @knighthonor44 Месяц назад +1

      Its literally Dr Manhattan powers tho.

  • @terrencetysor9956
    @terrencetysor9956 14 дней назад

    It's a tie. Everything starts with time and reality and the first to do that wins.

  • @devilguysadboi5587
    @devilguysadboi5587 23 дня назад

    Theres context to the perpetua scaling. She was weakened for almost the entirety of her appearances and the proceess of creation never required any outside help during her the backstory segment of her character in the JLA run. Not only that but simply being from the 6th dimension places her above even the likes of Mr. Mxzyptlk who has consistent multiversal feats casually and based off the dc cosmology, he could scale even higher than just multiversal. A fraction of Dr. Manhattan's power completely weakened perpetua forcing her to spend dark knights desth metal, recovering. Thats when the darkest knight finishes her off with a bootleg version of manhattan's powers. Manhattan easily scales above the beyonders

  • @MrSimonson
    @MrSimonson Месяц назад +1

    One above all vs one below all.

  • @paulowens8211
    @paulowens8211 22 дня назад +1

    Could you do some of the God of destruction from dragon Ball z versus some other strongest characters from DC and marvel

  • @NobodyTheGreat01
    @NobodyTheGreat01 Месяц назад

    Whoever wields the Power Authorial wins.

  • @loceelen
    @loceelen 21 день назад

    Wait, it was a multiverse worth of molecule men exploding that killed the beyonders, sooo..

  • @lukecormier6913
    @lukecormier6913 19 дней назад

    Missed the chance for a great joke "what are dr Manhattans powers you ask? Well the answer is simple yes

  • @justafloridamanfromthe75thRR
    @justafloridamanfromthe75thRR 12 дней назад

    Next: Most powerful version of Molecule Man vs Cosmic Armor Superman!!!!

  • @sergiodanielmigoni8467
    @sergiodanielmigoni8467 Месяц назад +6

    Molecule cannot prevent Manhattan from making a new body infinite times (and that's assuming Manhattan needs a body to erase someone with a thought), how is Molecule beating the blue boy, exactly?

    • @joshuakelsay1146
      @joshuakelsay1146 Месяц назад +1

      did you not watch the video? or are you riding?

    • @richmanezihuo7214
      @richmanezihuo7214 Месяц назад +1

      Answer his question and stop hiding behind Dan. Manhattan can't be erased permanently so how would u do that to him without him forming out of his will? ​@@joshuakelsay1146

    • @bottlekapp123
      @bottlekapp123 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@richmanezihuo7214dr manhattan has been stated to be higher than the presence, its all cope because they don't like him.

    • @ok-jq1jh
      @ok-jq1jh Месяц назад +4

      @@bottlekapp123
      Dr Manhattan is NOT higher than the Presence. He is Hand of the Presence level, like Perpetua the Hand at the Beginning of time. But yes he's higher than ANY of his feats.

  • @MeanJynx
    @MeanJynx 19 дней назад

    I just think this is an impossible fight. They cancel each other. They're multiversal time, matter and reality manipulators.

  • @Mimic_45
    @Mimic_45 Месяц назад +1

    Aquaman (DCEU) VS Hawkman (DCEU)

  • @CaptnJack
    @CaptnJack Месяц назад

    Bravo, I thought you would keep pushing that Manhattan would win. Owen Reese is the winner. Additionally, he has his former humanity tempering his outlook which is a good thing.

  • @darkseid6089
    @darkseid6089 Месяц назад +16

    Molecule man stomps

    • @kingjames846
      @kingjames846 Месяц назад +7

      😂😂 to funny!

    • @thewatchmenz
      @thewatchmenz Месяц назад +1

      of course... the other one is insignificant like like its company dc

    • @TheBigHead_23
      @TheBigHead_23 Месяц назад

      @@darkseid6089 Yes.

    • @TheAC05554
      @TheAC05554 Месяц назад

      Agree

  • @TheDjbenton
    @TheDjbenton Месяц назад +2

    Shang Chi (MCU) vs Captain America (MCU)

    • @chriswhite9201
      @chriswhite9201 Месяц назад +2

      I love cap but shang chi is waaaaay more skilled of a fighter.

  • @carlosgarza7556
    @carlosgarza7556 Месяц назад

    Suggestion: Elizabeth Halsey (Bad Teacher) vs Jack Killer Bean (Killer Bean)

  • @TheDjbenton
    @TheDjbenton Месяц назад +3

    Doctor Doom vs Magneto

  • @raynoldakyereko-borkor514
    @raynoldakyereko-borkor514 27 дней назад

    At his best he fought the Beyonder. That’s definitely not his best. At his best, LIFE BRINGER GALACTUS said he could erase him with a thought

  • @carlosgarza7556
    @carlosgarza7556 6 дней назад

    Suggestion: Mira Nova (Buzz Lightyear of Star Command) vs Doom Guy (Doom)