Episode 8 - “When We Are In Need” | The Last of Us Podcast | Max
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- Host Troy Baker and Showrunners Craig Mazin and Neil Druckmann unpack the episode in which Troy has an on-screen role. They break down the character of David and how this narcissistic predator tries to manipulate Ellie. They discuss one of the darkest moments of the show so far, and Neil says why it was so important to a subvert typical narrative. HBO’s The Last of Us podcast is produced by HBO and Pineapple Street Studios.
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Where are all the infected? Great drama, garbage use of story.
This version of David is especially scary. He literally slaps that little girl, says he's her dad now and sits down, and is potentially eating her real dad with her, and he has a bigger plate. 💀
Definitely eating her real dad.
that whole scene had me gagged like😭😭😭
Yeah, I kind of expected them to comment on that. He was very clearly served a dish with way more food than anyone else in the room.
I had kind of assumed that because he showed up late with the deer he got a cut of that for himself and ate a bunch, in turn forcing his followers in the next days to have less deer and to consume more human meat instead.
That was badass
Might very well be my favorite episode of the series. Bella's performance was spectacular. Troy Baker was such a damn treat. David was perfectly casted. Pedro was so frightening as Joel. It was absolutely outstanding.
Perfectly summed up
Couldn't agree more!
I've loved every second of this series but this was my least favourite episode! Crazy how as people we all have different perspectives hahah. My main issue was David for me - didn't find him remotely frightening, creepy, uncomfortable. So he just lacked believability for me. I also would've liked the infected to have been in...I miss the clickers man!
@@c_reckless that’s fair, I personally like how they are showing how people can be worse than any of the infected. It gives it a more realistic feeling that many appreciate, but I can see why you may dislike it. To each their own :)
@@sir_nugget85 I'm definitely in it for the post-apocalyptic vibe more than the zombies. I feel like it's a spiritual successor to World War Z.
Man the way Bella screamed out of rage when she killed David and then instantly was transformed to a scared and helpless 14 year old girl again when she met up with Joel outside, wow. What an amazing performance. That was incredible.
There was a lot more than rage going on. There was terror and self-preservation, and a flight or fight response to stop the danger to her, and then the rebound from the reverberating trauma.
Yeah... It's almost scene for scene. Exactly what the motion capture actress Ashley Johnson playing Ellie for the first time. Did in the video game.
Bella was born to be an actor. She was absolutely phenomenal. I did not know how to process my feelings during that Ellie and David last scene. I was gasping for air and felt the shock Ellie was feeling. Thank you guys for giving us this amazing adaptation! Thank you!
I teared up when I watched the game play. I bawled watching bellas performance - defending herself from a monster. She better win many acting awards
She was so good as Lady Mormont in Game of Thrones. One of my favorite characters, even though she had very little screen time before dying to kill the undead giant.
@@yulie135 the final scene of Joel and Ellie, him comforting her and calling her “baby girl” like his daughter, really got me. Hoo boy.
And if we remember how much hate came about when Hella Ramsay popped up as the name for Ellie. She is so awesome ❤❤❤
There's something about Bella's screams that hit me almost physically. I felt like I was in the room with her. God.
Bella deserves an Emmy for this episode
She earns it in every new episode. All the actors/tresses do
She has blown me away in just about every episode. The devastation she shows in episode 7 after being bitten really sticks out in my mind.
Bella Ramsey for Best Lead Actress
Nick Offerman for Best Supporting Actor
Pedro Pascal for Best Lead Actor
Merle Dandridge for Best Supporting Actress
@Mistah47 agree. The only reason I see people hating on her is because of the LGBT, otherwise they can't accept the fact she is doing so great
@@crashpal Right? It's extremely perverted how much they obsess about what other people have between their legs and what they do in their own bedrooms. These bigots make it a point to make it their business, too. Doesn't affect them at all, but they still can't help themselves.
There is no way to describe the feral sound of pure glee that came out of my mouth when Ellie broke David's finger
imagine how savage bella was in season 2 when ellie was grown up
@@darkman7009 She really is such a perfect Ellie🪓 I'm exited for what she'll bring to the character in season 2
and said THE line!
@@HIGHTS and boy did she say it with her chest too! First time I've been scared of Bella's version of Ellie, gives me a lot of hope for their future as the character in season 2.
Can't wait for this season's finale.
She said the line PERFECTLY!!
I’m surprised they didn’t speak on the added detail of David reaching for his belt buckle when he had Ellie pinned. That change made the last fight sequence twice as disturbing but also twice as relieving when Ellie was finally able to grab the clever
Ugh. That was such a terrifying scene.
Not gonna lie, that split second in the screen was the most jarring moment for me. It was like the curtain was pulled back and the sinister monster unveiled in all its ugliness.
@@livashlin it was exactly what was needed to communicate the depravity of that monster, im so glad they put it in some people dont know how terrifying that sound can be for victims
“Violent at heart”, such an extremely complex statement. Because I truly don’t think Ellie would be this violent bad she not been in this world. We saw with Riley she wasn’t as reckless, and stubborn as we thought. The thought of her potentially putting her trust in all the wrong people made me legit sick.
Also David's statement was related to how he was committing sexual abuse. Ellie has only ever committed violence out of rage and fear, which both derived from horrific trauma. Not the same at all.
A sick man trying to project his own evilness onto someone else even though she is nothing like him
Another horrifying this is David used to be a teacher and its implied he was a molestor even in school, before the outbreak. He's the literal devil personified
@@anafjora wait when was that implied?
@@Jackieb741 1. he was a math teacher turned preacher. he taught kids around ellies age he said
2. he admitted he has always had a "violent heart" and struggled with it even before outbreak
🤮🤮🤮
man. this episode was so intense, it literally had me on the edge of my seat. those screams from bella at the end of the episode were so haunting 😭 not ready for the show to be over!
“I thought you already knew, Fighting is the part I love the most”
HBO David did his job!
Bella definitely deserves the Emmy for this show. I can't imagine someone doing a better performance this year.
I really hoping she would win, but Succession stole almost all the awards and Bella was snubbed. I’m hoping season two will give Bella another chance.
I understand people wanting to see Joel pull Ellie away from David like in the game, but I think what they changed to in the show is more heartbreaking. To me, the scariest moment right after experiencing trauma is right after it happens, when you're alone and with your thoughts. When you're simultaneously trying to rationalize what just happened but your body is panicking. Ellie was about to trek back to the house, alone. Then Joel found her just in time to pull her back to reality and give her comfort.
There's also the logical reasons, which were mentioned in this podcast. My only complaint is she probably chopped him a few too many times. But man, they NAILED this sequence from the game and made it so much better. EDITED TO ADD: But you're 100% right. Having Joel pull her off is interrupting her in the wild animal phase. Having her have to walk out alone and dazed amplifies the trauma, and makes her need for Joel's comforting arms so much more pressing.
What you described belongs to part 2 not this one. In the first part Joel saves Ellie from entering the extreme PTSD by stopping her and calming her and hugging her for the first time. In the second one he couldnt.
@@idestructiiion1337 that’s an excellent point!
I also noted that TV Joel has no idea what happened to Ellie, just that something horrible did happen and she needed comfort.
I liked that they left ellie to snap out of that rage herself. And then brought Joel in to meet her after the adrenaline left and when she was terrified. I think it showed Ellie's strength to pull herself out of that rage in that moment.,, And if the doors were locked, Joel wouldnt have gotten in. But this version of the Joel meeting Ellie outside of the steakhouse, might flow better with how Ellie deals with events of TLOU part 2. It would have worked either way, but i liked this better in this media i think.
When I hear Joel saying "baby girl" makes my eye teary.
Broke me apart, yet again. Bella was mesmerizing in her despair and fear.
yeah, i once again ugly cried. This show is gut wrenching
The scene with Ellie brutally killing David is like the beginning of her violent nature. I feel sorry for her because that’s the moment where there is no turning back. Maybe that’s why I’ve cried for all left behind episode. Seeing her joy, vulnerability was so touching for me. Knowing what her life will do to her just brakes my heart.
When Joel tells Ellie at the end of the ep it's gonna be alright baby girl....omg...hit me so hard. Definitely teared up. And my god Bella's facial expressions at the end were fantastic
This adaptation is 1,000% proof that any adaptation can done as long as you respect the source. The TV show doesn’t follow it beat for beat but like 90% close to it. Either way, you can adapt video games and they can be amazing like this show.
I’d love to see Bioshock be done next or even Metal Gear.
Hopefully the fallout and god of war shows are great ... also we need the HBO original show : Red Dead Redemption 🤞😁
Netflix is doing a BioShock movie. They are currently considering Keanu Reeves for the lead. They probably won't do justice to the deeper ambiguities of why objectivism failed in Rapture, but at least the Art Deco set designs will surely deliver.
This doesn’t respect the original source. It fails it.
@@thehoopman88 rdr is way too big to adapt even in a show.
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If you read this Troy, your performance as James or a worn out doubting post-apo survivor in general was perfect. Hearing your voice was a great reminder of Joel but that subtle acting of yours, your eyes, the exhaustion, the uncertainty. You stole your scenes, that's for sure. It's actually sort of unreal. I consider myself a pedantic fan of the game and each episode leaves me in awe. The show nails it exactly where it needs to be nailed and those little adaptations here and there work perfectly. Thanks to all people involved!
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The cell scene was one of the most amazing adaptations
troy is actually so good as an interviewer!
I'm surprised every week with how much information he can pull with his questions
Troy has the voice of a god.
I want to see Troy on screen a lot more as well.
I wish this episode got to be a bit longer, but I still loved it! Bella Ramsey’s acting was the best I’ve seen from them so far
I agree !!
That's my only "complaint". I put that in quotes because I get it and love it, but...this should have been 90 minutes. Just, slower. Heavier. Scarier.
In the game you really feel those blows to David's face. Over and over and over. Ellie. Breaks. She wins, but it breaks her and the real animal that's in her shows its face. Time is money and money is budget so it is what it is but I would have liked 20 to 30 more minutes of weight.
hopefully the season finale will be an hour and a half
@@joshhudson7413 it's 45 minutes
@@joshhudson7413 next,será de 43 minutos lamentablemente.Los productores no hicieron más minutos porque no quieren tmr
Sincerely thank you to everyone who worked on this episode for portraying such an accurate depiction of SA and abuse. I keep asking myself why I've been so shaken by this episode and I think it's this: the fear, anger, and tenseness that we, as the audience, feel, as well as see Ellie feel, is exactly what SA feels like. The overall situation is obviously dramatized in the show because it's life or death, but that is what it feels like in the moment and continues to feel like after. And it is so healing to watch Joel comfort her so sincerely and lovingly even though he doesn't know what's going on. It's all I wanted when I was young and going through that, so thank you so much to Bella and Pedro for being such incredible performers, as well as everyone on the episode.
It was true horror
exactly!!!
I’m so sorry you had to go through that Emma 🥺 I will never understand how any guy could get aroused by someone who doesn’t want them. I can’t think of anything unsexier
I'm sorry you went through that ❤
Great episode. Made David even creepier.
i didn’t think I could hate his character more, until “the fighting is the part I like most.” what a chilling line, followed by an even more chilling whimper from Bella Ramsey’s performance, someone get that actor an emmy already
@@TheFreshTrumpetduuuude yes. They did a great job with David.
Bloke would’ve definitely had a discord kitten prior to the apocalypse
@@YodaOnABender I hate the fact that he was previously a teacher
The actor Scott shepherd was amazing as david!
Bella's acting was absolutely terrific this episode, above and beyond any of my expectations. They deserve every award possible.
you mean terrific?
It had to be so incredibly surreal for Troy to be playing a character on the other side of the fence this time around. I can't imagine the mental gymnastics he had to go through to get into character while seeing a real life Ellie in front of him and not want to be like "Oh, baby girl" especially with how he's loved and protected that character for a better part of a decade now.
Ellie kills Joel in this episode
And the way they kill Troy is so cheap. She basically hands him the clever and he holds it then slumps down and then it's there in his neck.
Love the show
I was most excited for this episode because it’s my favorite part in the entire game. I was blown away by this episode but the moment that stuck with me so much is when Ellie killed David. It was much more obvious what he was trying to do (some people missed the subtext in the game) and it was also just a lot more terrifying. Bella’s performance was soul wrenching and when she finally managed to grab the knife and kill David it hit even harder than in the game. The only way to describe it is brutal. It was longer, and wasn’t interrupted and the pure emotion and rage that Bella managed to portray was bone chilling and shook me to my core making me feel like I was in Ellie’s shoes and looking down at a mangled face of an awful man. Then when Joel finds her and she just breaks down I broke down too and it was just such an amazing and powerful episode I wanna rewatch it already.
I just rewatched that last scene of Ellie and David. I was sick to my stomach thinking what David was abt to do in that moment and was terrified for Ellie!
Totally went through the same emotions like you when Joel finally finds her and hugs her. 😭
Amazing episode. The sheer size of the bolt action rifle so large in Bella's/Ellie's hands but what really impressed me, as she covered David and James (go Troy!), with the rifle, she goes over to their weapons, pulls back the bolts on both rifles and ejects the live rounds from the chambers effectively neutralizing those weapons. Smart!!!
The "baby girl" & embrace at the end!! Perfection!🙌🏽😭❤️
When he gives her his jacket* :')
BELLA IS SO GOOD AS ELLIE! I cant say that enough. This episode was perfectly done. Everything we wanted from this point of the game. ANd Seeing Troy was awesome. AND THE JOEL INTERROGATION SCENE! Was great. Also really loved the way they gave the group depth they didnt have in the game. and explains the motives. Next week I believe were seeing Ashley Johnson get her cameo. This has been an awesome season and I'm sad to see it go. Can't wait for season 2 already.
Troy you killed it in this episode I hope you get many more high profile live action roles coming your way.
That being said please keep voice acting in games you're absolutely awesome at it :)
The dude that played David knocked it out the park
Just hearing Bella’s screams when she was fighting David absolutely killed me. She deserves an Emmy for that performance.
The part where David was in the burning steakhouse saying "Ellieeeee" is one of the scariest scenes in any movie or TV show. Scott Shepherd's performance was outstanding.
The first time Joel said Baby Girl was to Sarah as his daughter was dying in his arms.... I cried .... The last time Joel said Baby Girl was to Ellie as his daughter was safe in his arms... I cried
I cry every Monday watching one of the best and most brutal story on love.
I'm not the type of guy who usually gets wrapped up emotionally in a show but when Joel called Ellie "Babygirl" it hit me like a truck.
This was the first episode that actually made me bawl my eyes out. Seeing Ellie in this horrific situation and hearing the fear and desperation in her voice as she's about to be literally slaughtered just made me start crying - honestly moreso than this section in the game.
I think it's because Bella Ramsey does look significantly younger than her age, and I just see my 11-year-old niece in her. So I think of this happening to my niece and her having to resort to horrific violence just to stay alive. No kid should ever have to go through something this horrific, and Ellie had no choice.
When Ellie put her head on Joel, Joel/Pedro moved his head slightly to lean on Ellie. Touching moment.
Troy was great as James. He brought so much more depth to the character. That said, I'm glad at how much this episode stayed true to the game. It's one of my favorite parts because it's such a rollercoaster of emotions, from creepy David, to Joel's scary interrogation, to Ellie's strength and defiance, to the utter terror of the final stalking sequence. And man! That "baby girl" line always makes me tear up. So good. All of you should be proud of what you've made.
Watching Joel attack those guys, I couldn't help compare my own reaction to Ellie being 'activated', as they put it on this podcast, when he killed that guy to defend her in the first ep.
Samee
The team really nailed a cult leader. I was in a cult until I was 38. I got so many weird feelings watching this episode. My adult daughter turned to me and said dad “David is talking like one of our former elders in our congregation!” The last of us was my first M rated game I ever played. We were not allowed to watch R movies or M games. The cult controlled our thoughts and actions.
Wow I hope you are having a wonderful life with your daughter ❤
Congratulations on breaking away
Same! My wife and I escaped a cult in 2018 after 5 years. Cult leaders share that same false sense of kindness paternal/maternal to lure you in and then by the time you realize their true motives and nature, you’ve already drank the kool aid.
They definitely nailed that aspect of how they function for sure!
Omg same, it reminded me of my religious upbringing so much that I get a visceral repulsion every time David talks since the first moment he appeared.
They did it so well. I was thinking the whole time that Jackson was run better, where did these people go wrong? And they just executed that comparison perfectly. Don't even get me started on Pedro and Bella because that acting was indescribable. They deserve all the awards and all the recognition. The dark tone this episode set for both Ellie and Joel, how they're both driven to survive by their biggest fears - Joel losing his daughter again, and Ellie being alone - was one of the most intense, heart-breaking, inspiring things to watch. Thank you so much to Pedro, Bella and the entire cast and crew for putting on such a spectacular production x
Bella’s acting was phenomenal in this episode. They were able to capture the intensity from the game and make it real. They have been killing it as Ellie the entire season but this episode highlighted their talent for sure ❤
The episode I needed especially after episode 7, and the character development continues to stay amazing. Incredible performance by Bella, seeing ELLIE fight back in such a badass way and being super witty was really rewarding
Bella's performance was spectacular. Troy Baker was such a damn treat. David was perfectly casted. Pedro was so frightening as Joel. It was absolutely outstanding.
The father wasn't murdered by a crazy man, he was killed in self defense
They probably wanted to make mince meat out of Joel and Ellie, so basically two wrongs don't make a right
i still cannot get over this episode, bella's portrayal as ellie and the way she plays out her anger is just absolutely FANTASTIC👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I'm so excited and sad we're ending soon. Loved it guys. Loved Troy's performance and hope we get Ashley's in the next one
Bella is an spectacular actor. I'm so excited to see more from her in the future.
This was the episode I was not particularly looking forward to, purely because of the content. But now I've watched it, oh my GOD, it was phenomenal. Bella's performance was absolutely incredible, haunting and the last bit hit me hard in the feels, Pedro's emotion will haunt me for a while. I agree that David was perfectly cast and really enjoyed having our boy, the OG Joel, Troy Baker in this episode! One more left 😰
Troy you did a fantastic job this was the episode I was the most excited for and it did not disappoint
Every week….every got damn week! This is cinematic television. This is just amazing. I love this show so damn much. MAN!
This episode. This is the one. When Joel holds her and calls her baby girl, I LOST it. And I’m crying again now. UGHHHHHHHHH.
Let’s go I can’t believe I caught this a minute after upload. Once again a stellar episode that continues to not only deliver an amazing experience to new time viewers but also companied with enriching details that build on top of original content from the game that serves to benefit the long time fans. Can’t wait for this next week to fly by. Sunday night here we come 😂
What an amazing episode!!! Seriously Neil and Creig and everyone involved should be real proud!
The casting is marvelous, the sets, the editing and the expansion of the world. 😭
I'm so thankful to be fan of this story since 2014 and see how much it's grown. How far it's come and to see this beautiful adaptation come to life. Pedro and Bella both are amazing actors. The little nuances of their actions their movements, the faces, the screams!!!! What an incredible experience to live each week. To know what's coming and still have my heart beating fast and worried and somehow each episode has made each scene from the game or back story more and more sad. Each episode!
Can't wait for next week. Super excited yet super sad.
Can't wait for s2! And to see how much more y'all will make us hurt! 😩😭❤️ Congratulations on such a magnificent TV show! Thank you for the attention to detail to this story and for giving us such a great season! ❤️👏🏽🎉
Thank you for staying true to the revelation that the "Others" were looking for Ellie and Joel. It was one of my personal favourite moments from the game as this was the first time the player is faced with the consequences of killing. It was also the first time you got to see things from Ellie's perspective which made the situation all that more frightening. Perfect casting for David and fantastic performances by everyone involved. Also loved that Troy got to cameo in the show and that he went out in a brutal way as is becoming of a Last of Us death.
Bella truly clapped back at the haters with this performance.
One of my favorite changes they made is since they are all have a great deal of faith in religion, the man Joel is torturing looks up and calls for Jesus, only for Joel to rip him from that comfort and tell him he can’t help you. Pedro killed that scene
I think this might be the best show on the planet right now.
Separation of church and state is no more poignant than in several red states today. Thank you Craig for pointing this out.
It's nice to hear Neil talk more this episode, you can tell he is very passionate about this part in his story. This podcast has been awesome to listen to every week.
Very well done episode and series. It saddens me that there is only 1 more episode left.
That guy David was from Breaking Bad's El Camino ....... one of the fake cops. Great Episode. It was strange seeing Troy in this story ..... but not as Joel
The torture scene is my fav Joel moment, just shows how brutal someone can be to save someone they care about. Nailed it!
This was the episode I was dreading 😂 played the game probably around 8 times, and the David scenes still have me on edge, this adaption was equally as terrifying 😂😂 acting from everyone was outstanding, having Troy was awesome for the hardcore fans too 💪
Man the last few minutes of this episode put me through all the emotions! Bella Ramsey is beyond great in this. Watching her realize it’s Joel and go from 1 emotional extreme to the next really got me. I half expected her to start sucking her thumb in Joel’s arms. I shed a tear when Joel said baby girl
Bella Ramsey was astonishing this ep. And it was SO tense, it's insane. Incredible work as always. Not sure what we're going to watch the week after next!!!
The only thing I wish this episode included was the game's OST at the end of the episode when Joel holds Ellie in his arms in the snow. Gustavo Santaolalla's All Gone (No Escape) soundtrack plays in the game reminding me of Joel's time with Sarah which made that scene where they reunite even more impactful, beautiful, and sad. Besides that aspect, the episode was absolutely fantastic. Bella deserves all the awards for her brilliant performance. Troy Baker's cameo made me so happy and Scott Shepard as David was the right call. He really embodied creepy vibes.
Tbf if u check the soundtrack, it’s in next ep thank god.
Hearing Troy's Joel voice in live action almost made me cry.
No mmes 🤣
I felt all of Bella's performance in this episode. She did amazing!!
Boy did Craig and Neil did amazing job with adapting such beautiful and powerfull story to the screen
I don't think I've ever felt more shaken after watching an episode of a show. I've been thinking about it all day. You can really feel the love and passion that's been poured into this series in a way that you rarely see - in any piece of art, but especially those that are backed by large companies, and those that rely on such a massive team effort. Everyone who worked on this project is amazing.
Thank you Craig, Neil and the cast. I must say that episode 8 was one of the best things I've ever seen on screen. I love how you analyze the characters by really digging into the human psyche. And Craig, I admire your understanding of who people dealing with trauma as much I admire your job - screenwriters are definitely the people I can resonate the most with. One last thing, I'm amazed by the scene of killing the deer. It's been showing multiple times throughout the episode and I think it's so powerful - symbolically speaking and cinematographically speaking, it shows that Ellie is gradually losing her innocence in that cruel and dying world, that she will be dragged into the spiral of violence and vengeance. Bella portrayed it in an outstanding way, Ellie's development is consistent with what happened in the episode 7. Good foreshadow and very clear message. The difference with the game, when Joel reappears, was an excellent choice: as for me, it shows a different/inverted power dynamic between Joel and Ellie (she is not a little girl who needs Joel's protection anymore, she is capable of killing and defending herself) as a new way of looking at theirs relationship/co-dependance. Hats off to the crew!
It's common that critics use the phrase "love letter to the cinema"; and i think this episode was, without a doubt, A LOVE LETTER TO VIDEOGAMES!
I’m loving this show so far, and I understand that certain elements from the game need to be trimmed for an adaptation, but the lack of infected in many of these episodes really make this world feel a little less dangerous. The humans of this world can be equally or even more dangerous than the infected, but they’re still out there. You never know when you might encounter one or many of them. They establish the clickers as being really terrifying threats in episode 2, and then you never really see any again. I was hyped to see the way this show would depict the stalkers because they seriously scared me during the game and could have lent to some amazing suspense, yet they're almost non-existent here. For this episode specifically, the mission in the game with all the infected swarming Ellie and David was INTENSE and it was completely omitted from this episode. Teaming up with David made it feel more like he was truly an ally, only for him to ultimately turn out to be the opposite. Felt a little rushed in this episode, like it was just a highlight reel of the cutscenes
This episode is by far the best of the series!! Played both games, loved them. Was not sure about how well this would be adapted. This was the episode I was waiting for. Absolutely incredible acting performance from Bella. Truly Emmy worthy imo!
Fantastic episode! Bella was amazing, and the actor who played David did such a great job. I wish the final fight was a tiny bit longer, just so you build up that fear/tension for Ellie's safety like in the game, but they have limited time to work with so that's totally fair.
*“Baby girl”*
😭❤️😭
The guy who plays David was so frightening and serious... great casting.
David demonstrates all the narcissistic traits of a cult leader who uses belief to control his subjects. This is a dark mirror to some of the far right religious cults that ignore all the evils their leader does under the false pretense that the leader is as close god incarnate as can be. I actually thought the TV adaptation might shy away from some of the violence depicted in the game; especially as Joel's interrogation method was shown in episode 7, albeit a less violent representation. I was glad my assumptions didn't come true and all the story elements from the game were included, including Joel's arbitrary used of brutality to find his way back to Ellie. Joel's final evolution from "cargo carrier" to surrogate father in this episode was just as strong as in the game with that line "It's Okay baby girl, I got you".
Joel's interrogation in episode 7 🤨
What crack are you smoking?
@@allanlocke5749 Joel uses the same "point at the map and it better be the same" technique with the old Indigenous couple at the beginning of the episode, but that time he just used the threat of violence instead of actual violence. I was a disappointed at first when I saw it because I thought they might not show the full, violent version in the David episode. Perhaps YOU should step away from your crack pipe and pay attention to what you are watching.
Hands down the best all-around episode in a season of amazing episodes.
Episode was incredible! Troy crushed it. So cool to see after following his career for 10 years. Love how they fleshed out David's character. The small change they made at the end really emphasized how that moment was Ellie's complete loss of innocence.
Great episode. You could feel the rage, fear, and all the emotions coming from Ellie at the end of the episode. The way she bludgeoned cannibal David to death, and then runs outside to where Joel grabs her in his arms and calls her baby girl. Wish we could have seen the scene where they fight the bloater, clickers, to sort of show more of David being impressed by Ellie, but oh well.
I thought nothing can surpass episode 3 celebration of love or episode 5 pain of loss, but I was wrong. This is by far the best episode of the season for me. I hope episode 9 will go out with a bang and not with a whimper. I have great hope for it.
The last episode will leave you confounded in the most brilliant manner possible. i still havent forgotten it after 10 years of playing it first :) you'll learn something new about yourself after you see the ending :)
I like how Ellie just tearing at what remains of David goes on for a few seconds longer than it should, it highlights chaos of the moment really well.
My favorite episode so far Troy baker did a great job! David was creepy, and them serving humans without telling the town really is messed up!
I told my husband when Ellie was killing David, she is my spirit animal. Great episode!!
The way I heard david say that “it loves” line and instantly thought back to the episode 2 podcast
This episode was awesome. Restored my faith in the series.
Restored? It's been fantastic all along. How would you lose faith in the series?
@@stevenseufert2520 I hadn't had the buzz that I was personally looking for, until this episode. I've enjoyed it.
Episode 6&4 kinda missed the mark for me personally
The episode was amazing and i bet it was even more amazing for those who didn't play the game
I didn't expect David to say the C word 😆
Ugh, the gamers have been especially annoying lately. The biggest criticisms are coming from them and not the blind viewers. If I have to hear "what about the infected" anymore I'm gonna go sit in that diner.
Hbo annual c**t quota 😏🤣🤣🤣
@@the19kings it's their opinion
@@thehoopman88 its wrong
@@the19kings Uh, gamer here, and I LOVE this show precisely because it's hitting on all the things that made the game great. The infected are NOT what made it great. The CHARACTERS and story are. And this show is adapting that so well.
I burst into tears at the end of this episode because of Bella’s performance, I hadn’t cried during any other episode lol
Nice seeing Troy back in the Last of Us, even if it’s not Joel. I hope the new actors for Part 2 since Season 2 has been confirmed get nowhere near as much hate as the video-game cast originally did.
Hopefully
I have faith after this episode the Craig can smooth the sloppy writing moments of 2. They have to make some big changes for it to work
My only issue was with how you could see that AbbY wanted to continue slowly violently killing Joel. She wanted to drag that out as much as possible. Her father was killed in an instant but she had to take her sweet damn time destroying Joel. For that whoever decided that that is how Joel should die I will never forgive them.
My hope is that they don't do that to this Joel but a part of me thinks it could make great television but still a part of hates the idea of killing Joel like that.
@@allanlocke5749 Joel’s death is overall unsatisfying but that’s kind of the point I suppose. Guarantee had he had more time in the game to get that redemption with Ellie before dying audiences would’ve been more accepting. I hope we get something closer to that in the show
I didn't even cry at the end. My lips quivered and I felt broken, like too broken to even cry. All the awards for Ellie and Joel! 😭😉
Just as heavy a chapter as the game. I’m ready for some motherflipping giraffes but we’re coming to the finish line. It’s not even over aaand I want more.
This felt like such a clear reference to the Donner party. They're from the east coast and left to the Rockies. They're isolated by the Colorado winter. They're forced to resort to the lowest part of humanity. Most American cannibalism stories have shades of the Donners (which autocorrected to Dinners, which was unintentionally hilarious). But this is still a scarily intense modern version.
"Baby girl" instantly brought a tear to my eye.
definitely the best episode so far
I was curious of the decision to have Joel find Ellie outside rather than pulling her off of David in the restaurant while she's still on top of David. It was so much more impactful for him to have gotten in the building while it was on fire because he heard her screaming. I understand the creative decision discussed, but that was a monumental key moment in the game that I was disappointed in getting it changed. "It's ok babygirl, I got you." The first time Joel and Ellie vocalized their love for one another. Sets the finale in motion.
Agreed completely, not a fan of that change
They wanted to give her more agency and a deeper trauma. Also, it's not realistic for a very injured and sick Joel to barge into a locked building engulfed in fire and covered in smoke and have the strength to restrain her while she had a cleaver. It's too far fetched for someone without magical healing video game powers.
This episode was definitely the most tense and scary yet. We saw Ellie completely break down. We saw how scared she was. Bellas performance was absolutely amazing. They deserve an Emmy. The look of horror when Ellie stops attacking Davids corpse with the machete broke my heart. The use of comedy in the opening was very effective because it made people put their guard down. I knew David was a bad person because I played the game but I have watched lots of videos about the episode and in it people expressed how they didn’t suspect anything about David being a bad person. This episode is absolutely fantastic.
I know Troy’s voice isn’t Joel’s but I heard a hint of Joel in his character 😂
Bella Ramsey deserves an Emmy for this performance. Brilliant work. Also, shout out to Scott Shepherd for making David, a creepy character to begin with, even more terrifying.