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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад +41

    Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/
    Thanks for watching, Ideas for future videos? let me know in the comment section below. Thanks guys.

    • @thecobra45
      @thecobra45 Год назад +5

      Differential thrust mig 29 vs raptor sometime in the future?
      Also I would like to see if it is possible in those post kill spin outs to get a gun kill after flipping around in them or something

    • @77Avadon77
      @77Avadon77 Год назад

      @dbcannon yes how about ov10 bronco vs A10. 😳

    • @welltell.
      @welltell. Год назад +4

      They say in Chess if you beat your opponent 10 times in a row you have "Adopted him"... What would they say if you beat your opponent 5 times in a row in a dogfight?? you have "Aced him". !!

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 Год назад +1

      Great Flying GS.
      Yes, Flankers are sexy while still projecting a very muscular and dangerous profile.

    • @WoodsmanHobo777
      @WoodsmanHobo777 Год назад

      I agree, the flankers are the sexiest fighters. They got that look.

  • @kgjung2310
    @kgjung2310 Год назад +386

    "The first one is just a warm up." Well, things do get hotter when you're set on fire. Also, a single engine fire only helps in differential thrust.

    • @sogerc1
      @sogerc1 Год назад +7

      At least towards one side 🤣

    • @kgjung2310
      @kgjung2310 Год назад +26

      @@sogerc1 Only need 3 right turns and you get a left!

    • @VulcanM61
      @VulcanM61 Год назад +2

      Wait until you hear about the new hologram flares

  • @theamericancommie727
    @theamericancommie727 Год назад +87

    Alternate title, aerodynamics defiant flanker vs American UFO

    • @kramnoslaw4474
      @kramnoslaw4474 Год назад +8

      Raptor does kinda look like a ufo

    • @bodieleblanc2577
      @bodieleblanc2577 Год назад +4

      @@kramnoslaw4474 if you want a wierd looking 5th gen then look up the Yf-23

    • @xWarLegendx
      @xWarLegendx Год назад

      @@bodieleblanc2577 tht mf had some weird ass engineering ngl

  • @annoymouse890
    @annoymouse890 Год назад +176

    You know it’s a good day when he’s flying a flanker

  • @1PUTTZ
    @1PUTTZ Год назад +59

    Nothing like getting 360 no-scoped by a Raptor in the first 30 seconds.

  • @_SGR_
    @_SGR_ Год назад +349

    The amount of flares the F22 can shoot is insane!

    • @lexusmanning
      @lexusmanning Год назад +10

      Its not accurate

    • @dylanthompson6186
      @dylanthompson6186 Год назад +18

      @@lexusmanninghat would be an accurate amount for the f22?

    • @JordanSantana.
      @JordanSantana. Год назад +21

      @@dylanthompson6186 the F22 has around 25 flares on both cartridge (approximately:maybe more)

    • @dylanthompson6186
      @dylanthompson6186 Год назад +1

      @@JordanSantana. thank you, I suppose thats about standard to below average.

    • @lexusmanning
      @lexusmanning Год назад +7

      @@dylanthompson6186 classified

  • @snapperface12345
    @snapperface12345 Год назад +78

    That flat spin kill, top notch! Loved it!

  • @zx7rou812
    @zx7rou812 Год назад +206

    Would love to see a split screen with a view of your throttle use.

    • @S0nz94
      @S0nz94 Год назад +21

      It would be really cool. I second this

    • @vipondiu
      @vipondiu Год назад +14

      That would be awesome

  • @VagabondTexan
    @VagabondTexan Год назад +45

    Ahh, he starts off with the old 360 no scope. Classic

  • @ardag1439
    @ardag1439 Год назад +12

    Stealth leaf vs handbrake-turn-27. Lovely. I root for both.

  • @sevchikshwed7433
    @sevchikshwed7433 Год назад +202

    7:27 there is no way an aircraft should move like this… I’m stunned

    • @classonbread5757
      @classonbread5757 Год назад +94

      True but its not an aircraft, it's a raptor.

    • @banic8576
      @banic8576 Год назад +33

      Wait for NGAD.

    • @BARelement
      @BARelement Год назад +11

      @@banic8576 Likely will be more akin to the YF-23 than the “raptor” in DCS.

    • @kalactose348
      @kalactose348 Год назад +24

      @@banic8576 ngad will probably be less maneuverable than the raptor

    • @banic8576
      @banic8576 Год назад +2

      @@kalactose348 why would you think that?

  • @invictarussuzerain
    @invictarussuzerain Год назад +409

    Says something about the F-22 when GS loses 4-2 and still feels confident enough to say the Flanker is dangerous in dogfights.

    • @dorp8193
      @dorp8193 Год назад +5

      What would it say?

    • @davisc1926
      @davisc1926 Год назад +49

      @dorp8193 Says that the F-22 being pretty darn good, is a significant understatement.

    • @antred11
      @antred11 Год назад +81

      @davisc1926 I don't see any logic in this statement. If anything, an F-22 achieving only a 2:1 ratio over a Su-27 (if it were reproducible; and this simulation was accurate) would say that the F-22 is NOT as good as we believe (at least in close-in dogfight scenarios).

    • @jay_jax
      @jay_jax Год назад +20

      Im am also confused by this statement. Though i do not think the f22 was taking it seriously

    • @djsquidleh9605
      @djsquidleh9605 Год назад +39

      @@antred11 big ifs though considering dcs can only do publicly available info, and the Raptor is as classified as can be (and also considering the state of the Russians, the Raptor would win minimum 9 times out of 10, but it’s not like they’d ever get that close)

  • @ile2038
    @ile2038 Год назад +3

    "F-22 is doing trick shots on me" lmao, said every person who dogfights against an F-22

  • @nicholasbrandon2805
    @nicholasbrandon2805 Год назад +31

    Damn, that was brave man. What a great video, it was nice to see you pushing the flanker.

  • @Patrick-zr8tv
    @Patrick-zr8tv Год назад +1

    imagine seeing a dogfight like these on the ground, meters above your head. Full ab, high AoA, flares, missiles, the lot. Most dangerous air show you could ever go to.

  • @jikemenkins7098
    @jikemenkins7098 Год назад +15

    Agree, Flankers are beautiful... but the design language is there in the 29 also, and I kinda like it's proportions a little better.

  • @sackofclams953
    @sackofclams953 Год назад +3

    I appreciate the red circles. These times were kinda obvious but sometimes I’m squinting at the screen and have no clue what you’re talking about

  • @halnineooo136
    @halnineooo136 Год назад +34

    You could hear GS having hard time breathing while enduring the G loads on those rudder turns :)

  • @vicroc4
    @vicroc4 Год назад +28

    Two wins out of six against a Raptor is pretty impressive. Damn thing makes you question the laws of physics.

    • @joshnewbill2069
      @joshnewbill2069 Год назад +3

      He does also mention the raptor pilot seems to just be toying w him

    • @iamdarkrider4
      @iamdarkrider4 Год назад

      No, it's a joke. Poor fighter against a Raptor.

  • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
    @skaldlouiscyphre2453 Год назад +27

    I like the Fulcrum even more than the Flanker (aesthetically), but they're both among the best looking fighters ever designed.

  • @nomar5spaulding
    @nomar5spaulding Год назад +5

    I still think my all time favorite random moment of missile madness was that time in the (I think) Harrier, doing the Falklands fight, where you fired at the A4 and the A4 fired back, and your Fox 2s both hit and exploded right in front of both airplanes, and the A4 came bursting through the fire like 3 feet off the nose. That was crazy.

  • @meatballg8655
    @meatballg8655 Год назад +2

    Hey kid, if you yank hard enough on the stick that you’re basically falling out of the sky, you too can also just about manage 2 turns with an f-22!

  • @anubhabpaul3654
    @anubhabpaul3654 Год назад +5

    Can you do Su-30MKI vs Japanese F-15 because for the first time, IAF and Japanese Self Defense air force are going to participate in an exercise

  • @vividthespis
    @vividthespis Год назад +2

    To put this part of the ballet in true operatic musical context.
    Concerto Duetto No 4. Growling Sidewinder "La signora grassa canta"
    Speziata!

  • @dalsbury1979
    @dalsbury1979 Год назад +1

    The engines on fire was the fat lady singing 😂 Amusing battle for sure.

  • @Archer89201
    @Archer89201 Год назад +1

    Raptor acting like a South Indian movie actor casually defying laws of physics

  • @josueroberto7356
    @josueroberto7356 Год назад +109

    GS taking a whole missile hit and saying “I’m still in the fight” has the same energy as armless Denji standing up and saying “I can still fight”.

  • @garethfairclough8715
    @garethfairclough8715 Год назад +2

    Hah! That first one, he did exactly what you did to the hornet in the first round yesterday xD

  • @bojned
    @bojned Год назад +4

    Do the same fight using Su-35 now.

    • @bojned
      @bojned Год назад +1

      @@Bolter024 I meant same concept - no FCS and using differential thrust. It should be more interesting.

  • @Uselink
    @Uselink Год назад +1

    "Not over until the fat lady sings" - gets mowed down immediately

  • @knowa2911
    @knowa2911 Год назад +7

    “Maybe I should just eject…”
    That’s probably what every pilot has ever thought when merging with the F-22. 😅

  • @victorpapaavp
    @victorpapaavp Год назад +1

    "It's not over til the fat lady sings..."
    F-22 proceeds to chop off the back end of the flanker with 20 mike mike...

  • @erics8192
    @erics8192 Год назад +13

    wouldn't getting inhaled into the engine of the F22 count as a draw since you TECHNICALLY got a kill on his plane?

    • @samblackstone3400
      @samblackstone3400 Год назад +2

      In the future countries will keep vast flocks of Canadian geese for wartime. The reason why? Getting sucked into the intake is technically a kill.

    • @shraka
      @shraka Год назад +1

      The helmet might do some damage but the plane could probably still limp home. Apparently birds getting sucked into intakes doesn't do much to a modern combat jet.

    • @Myemnhk
      @Myemnhk Год назад +1

      The f22 could almost certainly make it back with 1 engine

  • @chriskibbe2901
    @chriskibbe2901 Год назад +3

    Excellent showing!! Well done! Not just superb entertainment but also very educational! Now I’ve learned how to have fighting chance against a Raptor. Thanks for all the hard work you put into this channel!!!

  • @inorite4553
    @inorite4553 Год назад +5

    Still waiting on that Differential Thrust vid with the F-16.

    • @halnineooo136
      @halnineooo136 Год назад +2

      Mexican F-16 can do do it after a Chili con carne lunch.

  • @Arrow_118
    @Arrow_118 Год назад +8

    This is where the fun begins!

  • @reidmortensen2629
    @reidmortensen2629 Год назад +1

    Okay so the kill at the 6:20 ish mark… that fox2 looked like it was straight ballistic… like it would have hit without a seeker from this angle😂😂

  • @thekaorucat
    @thekaorucat Год назад +1

    Agreed, the Flankers look AWESOME. That twin engine look is just *chef's kiss*

  • @SuperDiablo101
    @SuperDiablo101 Год назад +10

    In one of your videos you fought a Yf-23 if it's on DCS have you considered using it for future content?

    • @arieldario3849
      @arieldario3849 Год назад

      It appear a few seconds but nobody here forgot that fight, really cool...

  • @gotspeed_
    @gotspeed_ Год назад +2

    Love the humor in round 4. Keep up the great videos.

  • @chadh7005
    @chadh7005 Год назад +1

    The f-22 is like big brother you might get a shot in when he's playing but he'll give you more than you want in the end

  • @daviejones31
    @daviejones31 Год назад +10

    Love the differential thrust videos

  • @11bravocrunchie22
    @11bravocrunchie22 Год назад +4

    i think your chances would be far better if the F-22 would wait until *after* the merge before maneuvering for the fight.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад +7

      well we're not trying to limit anything in these fights, he can do whatever he likes to win.

  • @t.iapsingh5651
    @t.iapsingh5651 Год назад +3

    You just got appreciate the GS damn well flying you just killed a 2005 superjet with a old 1985 basic fighter

  • @hugobloemers4425
    @hugobloemers4425 Год назад

    "Have you noticed I am doing differential thrust?" No kidding, your left engine is on fire...

  • @thecodphein467
    @thecodphein467 Год назад +6

    I’m missing the stock aircraft dogfights… at least they’ll be back for a couple videos when the 15 drops. 🙏

  • @maxboskeljon6440
    @maxboskeljon6440 Год назад +11

    Hey gs, i think it would be totally awesome if you could do a fight between the oldest and newest flankers

  • @rzrselliott
    @rzrselliott Год назад

    Good fight! Always appreciate the content!

  • @user-mf3oc6mj5l
    @user-mf3oc6mj5l Год назад +2

    Flankers sure are pretty, but Mig31 will forever be my only true love.

  • @patrickbasin9389
    @patrickbasin9389 Год назад +1

    Watching the f22 in a dogfight is like watching Aaron Judge with a metal bat at a little league home run derby.

  • @davidfecak9569
    @davidfecak9569 Год назад +1

    OH!!! 😂 Some of your verbal reactions are hilarious! You sound truly startled. 😅

  • @MrKnoxguy101
    @MrKnoxguy101 Год назад +1

    Yes, the Flanker family is an attractive group of aircraft. The way the front of the fuselage transitions from a flat streamline to what resembles a long neck that juts out and above the intakes that is pointing the nose slightly downward, giving the neck the effect of having a hump, and that nose looking like a really big bullet. They look intimidating.

  • @smyers820gm
    @smyers820gm Год назад +1

    TOMBSTONE…..”y’all killed two raptors”. 💥💥💥💥💥💥😵😵😵😵😵😵😵💀💀💀💀😂😂😂

  • @SuperDiablo101
    @SuperDiablo101 Год назад +3

    Flanker pilot Gets ingested into the raptor engine....."yesss I am now one with the F-22"

  • @Cap1talNumbers
    @Cap1talNumbers Год назад +2

    The Sidewinder Growls, the day is good.

  • @snapp4132
    @snapp4132 Год назад +2

    When it's added, it'd be cool to see the Mustang v.s. the Corsair.
    Unpopular opinion but, I think the Corsair is way cooler than the Mustang, but the Mustang is still up there.

  • @sdotflockem
    @sdotflockem Год назад +1

    Been waiting for this 👍👍👍

  • @Keklan572
    @Keklan572 Год назад +2

    F-22 pulling off moves in atmosphere that you can do in space.

  • @darrylsmith7871
    @darrylsmith7871 Год назад

    Both engines in flames - "I'm still in this fight, guys!"

  • @gaevs-catchygaxbl3558
    @gaevs-catchygaxbl3558 Год назад +1

    "It's not over till the fat woman sings"
    2seconds later
    "The fat woman is singing"
    🤣

  • @angryrepublican4615
    @angryrepublican4615 Год назад +1

    You make my days better

  • @gnak6525
    @gnak6525 Год назад +23

    It would be interesting to see how the Su-35 would perform, I would imagine it would be really close

    • @r6god685
      @r6god685 Год назад

      he already did the video, Su-35 Flanker E vs. F22

    • @gnak6525
      @gnak6525 Год назад +1

      @@r6god685 I meant using the split throttle, which he hasn't done with the 35

  • @wvmommy1
    @wvmommy1 Год назад

    In golf we call the first hit that goes into the trees a "Breakfast ball". Same thing😅

  • @0neBadRabbit
    @0neBadRabbit Год назад

    "Its not over till the fat lady sings.."
    *Exactly 0.3 seconds later*
    "Ok she's singing now lol"

  • @SnaketheJake87
    @SnaketheJake87 Год назад +1

    Here’s your hold the raptor’s beer for the RUclips algorithm

  • @JohnHill-qo3hb
    @JohnHill-qo3hb Год назад

    When the pilot has the skills to push the capabilities of the A/C to maximum, danger close for the enemy, great showing, thanks.

  • @nooneyouknowhere6148
    @nooneyouknowhere6148 Год назад +1

    Proceedure for rate fight with f-22: step one, jettison canopy. Step 2, prepare to activate ejection seat.

  • @hamncheese0172
    @hamncheese0172 Год назад +7

    Hey gs, you have inspired me to start my dcs journey. Today, I got my first module. I decided to get the mirage 2000c

    • @spine3595
      @spine3595 Год назад +1

      Hey if you want to learn dogfighting let me know I'm part of a really big bfm community although mostly guns only not a lot fox 2 and mirage is a very good fighter second best plane in bfm just a bit of a hard gunsight to use

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад +3

      congratulations man, mirage is a great choice.

    • @hippoace
      @hippoace Год назад

      how do you get the shortcut keys for the mirage 2000?

    • @hamncheese0172
      @hamncheese0172 Год назад

      @@hippoace I’m still learning so I’m currently clueless

    • @hamncheese0172
      @hamncheese0172 Год назад

      @@GrowlingSidewinder I guess enough drooling at your videos can get someone motivated 🤷‍♂️

  • @Hugecreaper
    @Hugecreaper Год назад +2

    Yess another f22 vid Great work keep it up man!!

  • @calvinhosworld
    @calvinhosworld Год назад +2

    on round # 2 after being hit and spinning out, it seemed for a brief second you a gun shot right before ejecting.

  • @ndfgaming6824
    @ndfgaming6824 Год назад

    "Look at this I'm staying with em" f22:*just puts the parking break on*

  • @SixSioux
    @SixSioux Год назад

    Sukoi Su-27, possibly the most beautiful aircraft ever made. What a design, curves, shaping.

  • @Tenderbits
    @Tenderbits Год назад +4

    Hey, I’ve been here since 130k and I love your channel. I don’t even play DCS.

  • @freshkidjo
    @freshkidjo Год назад

    Very nice. At least in one of the rounds I would like to hear communication between you and your opponent. I think it would be a good laugh.

  • @ognjenpavlovski8616
    @ognjenpavlovski8616 Год назад +1

    11seconds yayy,i love ur videos man!

  • @jakewebber4567
    @jakewebber4567 Год назад +1

    Now we need to see F-22 differential thrust

  • @douglasgriffin4795
    @douglasgriffin4795 8 месяцев назад

    Bro said "tight you wanna eat a missile, have some pepper"

  • @NobleHusky
    @NobleHusky Год назад

    7:25 - That's very unnerving seeing a F-22 "fix itself" like that. It's like seeing a snake shake it's head and look at you lol

  • @kennyj4366
    @kennyj4366 Год назад

    That gun shot sawing both wings the su-27 was some awesome shooting.

  • @Joeski77
    @Joeski77 Год назад +1

    Best one yet!

  • @bitkarek
    @bitkarek Год назад +2

    Flankers are very "sexy" planes indeed...

  • @Avscout
    @Avscout Год назад +1

    Now you need a differential thrust F22 v the F15 with the front canards.

  • @abhinavmathur5648
    @abhinavmathur5648 Год назад

    Growling Sidewinder - "I aint hear no bell, one more round"

  • @kelvaris1
    @kelvaris1 5 месяцев назад

    Best line: "Maybe I should just eject."

  • @billisaacs702
    @billisaacs702 Год назад

    "What's he doin', like a flat spin..." WHACK!

  • @laszlokiss4409
    @laszlokiss4409 Год назад +2

    GS: Im flaring like crazy.
    9x:...and i don't care.

  • @fatbubba2097
    @fatbubba2097 Год назад +2

    I have fought several fighters in DCS with the F-22, and can say the Su-27 is quite a challenge if you are not paying attention.

  • @colinmarshall6634
    @colinmarshall6634 Год назад

    Hit by a fox-2, double engine fire
    "We're still in this guys!"

  • @ShoGunGrebby420
    @ShoGunGrebby420 Год назад +1

    GS: Whats he doin.... OHHHHHHH! Me: Well it looks like he's gonna shove a missle up your... yep that's what he's doin'!🤣🤣🤣

  • @Paytonplayz
    @Paytonplayz Год назад +1

    Hey growling sidewinder I have a question so this month I might be getting a pc"hopfully I get one" and ill probably play dcs if I do I love jets and love seeing dogfighting and I was wondering whats a good flight stick to get my favorite jet in the world is f-16 or f 15 I would love to know whats a good flight stick choice for me

  • @kolddk
    @kolddk Год назад

    Both engines flaming and "we´re still in this fight". That´s the stuff of which great nations are made!!!

  • @devynhale1623
    @devynhale1623 Год назад

    Awesome dogfighting!!!!

  • @timbaskett6299
    @timbaskett6299 Год назад +11

    The Flanker series is definitely one of the best looking fighters on the planet. I'd be curious to see it would perform if the fuselage was designed as a "lifting body" and enlarged LEXes'. The thicker lifting area would, in my mind at least, enhanced lift at high AoA and lower speeds. I may need to build a balsa glider one as MA-001-23.

    • @samblackstone3400
      @samblackstone3400 Год назад +4

      I’d be curious to see how it performs with engines that aren’t Russian quality

    • @reboundrides8132
      @reboundrides8132 Год назад

      You should work for Sukhoi.. on second thought they probably have somebody there figuring those things out already

    • @doodooswirl
      @doodooswirl Год назад

      I thought that’s what they were thinking when Sukhoi did the Su-57.

    • @zymuralchemy
      @zymuralchemy Год назад +1

      @@samblackstone3400 Thrust they've got, but I've seen su-27s in the air and man are they some smoky bois. Like, F-4 levels of black trails.

  • @CaptainSpacedOut
    @CaptainSpacedOut Год назад

    Flanker FIGHT ME. Raptor, have you ever been 360 no scoped?

  • @RTS907
    @RTS907 Год назад

    Great fights !

  • @CapTexamerica
    @CapTexamerica Год назад

    A Flanker hanging with an F-22 is like my old Oldsmobile (with a 403 Rocket) hanging with a Honda Hurricane through first gear. Yes, it can happen for 10 seconds...until he shits and hits warp speed and you're toast.

  • @77Avadon77
    @77Avadon77 Год назад

    Good kill at the end! 🥳

  • @warbuzzard7167
    @warbuzzard7167 Год назад

    If aliens attack, they'll be in effin' TROUBLE if the Air Force responds with the F-22. Jeebus!

  • @ShovelMonkey
    @ShovelMonkey Год назад

    Other planes with similar lines that I've always loved are the *B-ONE* and the *Aardvark*.
    That wasn't Fat Amy singing.

  • @christobaliancantu7112
    @christobaliancantu7112 Год назад

    I agree with you on the flankers being beautiful jets. Always thought that.