WLtoys 144001 brushed motor upgrade
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- Опубликовано: 22 июн 2020
- WLtoys 144001 13t 540 brushed motor and a new ESC and another new ESC. 😳🤔
This it’s a very fun little RC car. It’s fun right out of the box or there are plenty of mods you can do to it with brushed or brushless motors.
144001 parts
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35a brushless ESC: amzn.to/3grV0j7 to use this ESC with this motor you will need to change the connectors on one or the other.
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The servos that I use.
JX Servo PDI-1181 MG: amzn.to/34kQ1hH
Hitec HS-81: amzn.to/3hgE9ki
The Hirec HS-81 needs a slight mod to the servo mount.
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Love this channel. I first drove my new 144001 yesterday and I was utterly amazed at how fast it is. I named mine "Buster"
They are definitely fun little cars. 😃👍👍
Dave that was fantastic! That is exactly what that car needed. Perfect setup without a lot of hassle. Looking forward to 3s.
Good morning! 😃
I’ll bash it a bit and check the temps before I try 3s.
@@RCModSquad Good Call.
You have the greatest toys. Seems it helps to know how to fix and modify your vehicles. I imagine it is mostly learnt along the way... Thanks for the video... TTYL...
Thanks! I’ve been taking my toys apart since I was about 5 years old, much to the horror of my parents! 😂😂
Have a great day and be safe out there!
Wow. impressive knowledge. I always learn so much from you, thanks for the comments on my video telling me what is going on.......you rock
Thanks my friend! It’s just all fun tuff for me. Maybe I’ll get to jump on another live when I’m on vacation. 😃👍🏻
Have a great day and be safe out there!
Awesome video!! Answered alot of questions I had. Probably going to copy that set up. Thanks again for the great info.
Thanks and thanks for checking it out.
I’m really happy with this. It’s not a bad idea to add a fan to the motor and ESC.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
Pretty impressive speed for 2S I'm excited to see what does on 3S. It's also very quiet. Awesome video!
Thanks bro! I’ll run it in a bit more on 2s and track the temps. If I think it will handle 3s I’ll try to get that on Monday. I also need to find some place that actually has a straight section in it.
BTW: I’m using an AGD lav mic into a Tascam DR-07x for my audio.
I just bought a wireless mic to test so I’ll try and get on that soon.
I really like that you are making your RC's faster using Brushed motor setups, I also like to challenge myself making brushed cars go really fast!
I think it's fun. I have a few of these so I want her to keep one brushed.
Thanks for stopping by. Have a great day and be safe out there.
Nice work! I was just asking you about a lower turn motor! Thanks for the video! Enjoying my 144001 so far. No issues. 👍🏻
It’s a good car right out of the box but also good if you like to tinker.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
Very nice, good job my friend!
Thank you very much and thanks for checking it out. Be safe out there my friend!
Great build and nice speed run
Island RC -Duke thanks bro!
Have a great day and be safe out there!
@@RCModSquad 😃✌👍
Impressive sir, i love that you stayed in hobby :)
It’s still fun and fun to share. Thanks for stopping by.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
That's a pretty nifty RC. Goes fast!
Thanks for stopping by. I’m thinking it will run about 60mph on the 3s battery.
Have a great day my friend and be safe out there!
Thank you for another down to earth and great review.
Joseph Dawson thanks for your kind words and thanks for watching.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
it's cool to be able to see inside these little fast toys.
Shawn Rouhi i hope I can get a little more run time on it next week.
Thanks for stopping by and have a fabulous night my friend.
Always good info, thanks for sharing your thoughts and knowledge of these trucks😎🏜I've got bunch of these hobby wing 1060's and have never had one fail,
MyPassionRC- Studio XD40 Lou's RC Garage my last one said hobbywing and it smoked but I’m not sure it was a real hobbywing. These look different and have a barcode on the case.
So far so good. 😃
Awesome video good stuff on the motor mount nice gyro been a long time since I had a rc that could fit my hand 🖐🤪 great job thumbs up 👍 👊🤟
Thanks bro! Sometimes it’s handy to have the smaller cars. When I went to the sand dunes I had to carry the cars 1/2 mile or so through the dunes to tune them. The Typhon and Q901 were manageable but the Baja 5b was just too heavy and big.
Have a great day my friend and be safe out there!
RC ModSquad Yeah I definitely understand what you mean by all means what ever you makes you happy and your having fun.. these cars I run are heavy so I use pull straps you can hurt your back carrying these rigs
Wow that one really books too!! Such a fun hobby
Chris and Scott's Colorado Adventures and I can do a lot of it from home. 😃
Thanks for stopping by and y’all have a fabulous night!
cool dude
loved it man
Thanks a bunch bro!
Have a great day and be safe out there!
Thanks for your good sharing. Your experience is very helpful to me: Surpass 540 motor shaft is a bit long for 144001!
I’ve had several that the motor shaft was a bit long. I just set the pinion then grind the shaft down a bit. Thanks for stopping by. Have a great day and be safe out there!
Have a good day. Thanks a lot. Your videos indeed help me learn to walk in the right direction.
Really nice car, and a great video, thanks for sharing
It’s a pretty nice car out of the box or if you’re into upgrades it’s a great platform.
Thanks for stopping by and have a fabulous day. Be safe my friend!
Hi darlin!! Great to see you and you're toy's!! Tyfs have a great day! Much love to you 💞💞
Good morning ☀️🌞😃 have a fabulous day. Be safe my friend!
Looks good, Nice video my friend, Thanks for sharing and have a great rest of your day and stay safe out there. 😁
Thanks for stopping by. Have a great day my friend and be safe out there!
Hey there David, that was a very nice build👍🏽and that speed run was really neat 😎🔥!! Superb video👌🏾. Hope you have a wonderful evening.
Hey there Shali Ann. Thanks for stopping by and your kind words. You have a wonderful evening as well. Be safe my friend!
Hiya fella, just found your channel in David Bleasby’s comments so jumped over, I know very little about rc cars but enjoy watching. Just liked and subscribed o won’t be long before you hit 1k 👍🏻👍🏻 thanks for sharing 🤩🤩🤩
Thank you very much. I really appreciate it. I’m sneaking up on 1K 😃
I really am interested in drones and can’t decide if I want a mini or just wait and get my 107. I drive in some really cool places where I can get some great footage but I’d like to be able to post it.
I’ll tag along with you too and see what I can learn.
I didn’t want to buy the mini and never use it but I’m kinda thinking it might still be handy to have on vacation or hiking.
I’m also looking at the Skydio 2.
RC ModSquad I had the mini, I bought it at Xmas and I loved flying it. I wasn’t sure if I would like it as I had never had any like it before except a toy one a few years earlier. I’ve now upgraded to the Air 2 and it’s just so good. I think what ever you get you will get some awesome footage, you can just take them anywhere. 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for the informative. Goodtimes. 🙂👍
It’s actually a lot of fun for the money. Thanks for stopping by and your support.
Have a great day my friends and be safe out there!
nice great video man!
Thanks for your kind words and thanks for stopping by.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
Good job
+Billie Solomon thanks and thanks for watching. Hg
Great work brother, nice!! 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks bro! Have a fabulous day my friend.
Impressive 2s speed, I can’t imagine 3s!👍😊 I finally got one of these on its way to me!😃
It’s a fun little car. I finally figured out a way to fit the 2845 brushless motor in using the stock gears and keep the driveshaft bearing.
Thanks for stopping by and have a fabulous day.
That is cool!
Thanks, it’s a lot of fun.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
amazing intersting work :)
Thank you and thanks for stopping by. 💯👍🏻
Have a great day and be safe out there!
That's a great video and I learnt a lot, thank you! 😊 Wish I had more time to watch through your videos. I can't wait to see what speed you get with a 3s! 🤔😁 Take care, stay safe! Kindest regards. ☺️
Thanks for stopping by my friend. I wish I had more time to do this. I’ll test it a little more on 2s to see how it handles the heat from that first.
Have a fabulous day and be safe out there.
Awesome! Have a lovely day! 🌞🌞
anna sr7 thank you for stopping be and you have a fabulous night!
"Hello Everybody" Great Intro! Your vids are great!
Thanks for your kind words and thanks for stopping by.
That’s how I used to get “on the sir” on 40 and 80 meters years ago.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
I am not an expert but I love learning new things no matter what the topic, we never know too many things, I am a very curious person and I adore to leave my comfort zone! 2:57 zoom yes! :) so we can see it clearly! You are so knowledgeable about these cute mini cars which i adore! 😀👍🆒
Thanks for your kind words and thanks for stopping by. It’s a fun, safe little hobby.
Have a great day my friend and be safe out there!
I have almost the same setting(hobby wing 1060 ESC&13t motor),tried many times,and got 84.5km/hr on 2S battery.Please try some more time and it will be faster!👍😃
It probably has more to go but I need a better place to test it. Thanks for stopping by and have a fabulous day.
Be safe my friend!
I love your videos my friend
Thanks for your kind words. I really appreciate it.
Have a great day.
My 144001 is on the slow boat from China. I can’t wait to get my hands on it. I got the one with the bigger 2s battery. I got a Traxxas 12t 550 motor to try in it. I also have a brushless motor sitting here. Just need a esc. Then I need to figure out which servo to get. Great video 👍🏁
Cool, you might need to change the ESC for the 12t motor or maybe put a fan on it. Good luck and keep me posted on how it turns out.
Have a great day my friend and be safe out there!
RC ModSquad I’ll be doing videos on it. I still have the Traxxas esc also.
The big batteries they include suck. Mine burned out first use. Then the esc fried the motor. So mine is down for the count until bangood customer service agrees to credit the cost of those parts against an upgrade.
CryptoStang I haven’t tried one of the big batteries yet. I hope they get you going again soon.
Thanks for stopping by and have a fabulous day. Be safe my friend!
@@RCModSquad Yeah, a few people have had issues with the larger capacity batt they send. I really liked the car right up until it died. lol Only got 2 runs out of it but hit 31mph stock which isn't bad. Have a good one!
Hi, I really liked the video. Have a great day.
Thank you very much. You have a great day as well. 💯👍🏻👍🏻
Good job David 👍 that surpass hobby motor has some good power and yep i love my Jumbo ..ah.. i mean Dumbo RC transmitters as well 😄 Looking forward to the 3S runs on this setup, 44mph / 71kph on 2s is pretty darn quick my friend
I’m a huge fan of the DumboRC radio so far. That gyro servo is also great. I was really happy with that number and there might be a bit more.
I have a really goofy idea for a brushless setup cooking but I ran out of cars to tinker with. 😂
I did figure out a was to get the 28/45 motor in with the stock gear and stock motor mount.
I order the LC-Racing motor mount but it won’t work with the stock gear. That’s ok because I like to mod things anyway.
When I mod the mount I’ll try and get it on camera.
Have a fabulous day! Be safe my friend!
@@RCModSquad that's great David, modding is the best part of the hobby by far! I have a goolrc brushless combo I'm waiting on that I purchased from banggood a couple of weeks back and also want to reuse that brushless system from that junky xlf x03 truggy I reviewed and tore down that failed on the first test drive and put it into one of my brushed vehicles soon as well..
Hope to see you again
Thanks buddy! I’m trying to get things going again. Since I’m part of the supply chain it’s been a very busy schedule. I’ll be changing my schedule in two weeks with the hope of having a little more time.
I just ordered some tires, motors gears and a few more cars, planes and another little boat. 😃
Hopefully I’ll be back soon. I have a surprise car project planned too.
Thanks for checking on me. Have a great day and be safe out there!
nice great Video
Thank you 🙏💯👍🏻
Have a great day and be safe out there!
Hey 44 is a great number 😉👍
Thanks buddy! I’m pretty happy with it. Thanks for stopping by and have a fabulous night. Be safe my friend!
Nice speed increase! I got my 144001 a few days ago.Fun car. Needs to be faster however.I am still waiting for my JUMBOrc haha. Just poking fun..Can't wait to get it.
Jon Doe I’ll try and do a 3s run soon but based on that run I’ll need a little better place. I left the JumboRC part in so everyone could have a little laugh. 😂
Have a great day and be safe out there!
@@RCModSquad I think how you have it now is great! That is about the right speed for this car.Ill be modding mine soon im sure.(only 1 pack through it)
+Jon Doe it’s really fast enough for me but people want to know what it will do. I’m actually happy with my stock version on 2s. 😃
Take care out there.
HEY BROTHER I LIKE YOUR VIDEOS, YOU'RE EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE, IN ANYTIME I HAVE A QUESTION MOST OF THE TIME I JUST REFER TO ONE OF YOUR VIDEOS, MOST OF THE TIME 😉 I'm Bobby and I'm back quiet from Providence Rhode Island
Thanks bro, I really appreciate that. Have a fabulous day my brother! Be safe my friend!
Wow.. Great skill.
Please stay connected.
Sweet 👍, NC MOUNTAINS 🏞 backyard RC..
Thanks for stopping by bro. I really appreciate it. Have a great day and be safe out there!
Subscribed my friend.. will be checking out your playlist on this car.
P.s looking forward to the 3s test ;)
rmalik84s3 thank you very much. I really appreciate it.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
ya 3S for sure bro!
Eddie h I need to run it a little longer on 2s to see if it’s up to it then find a road with a longer straight section. 😂
Thanks for checking it out. Have a great day and be safe out there!
Good afternoon... Thank you so much for sharing your video with us!!! Have a great weekend... What's new on our channel? After 9 months stopped, I flew an RC Plane again, my training plane, an old BIX3... but it was quite windy, it wasn't easy... be welcome...
I will check it out. Have a great day and be safe out there!
I haven't read through all the comments, but I know a much easier solution to the wheel/axle nut problem... Just get a thinner wheel hex.
Example..my stock hexes on my Losi M8 was like 8mm thick, but the aluminum hexes I replaced them with are only 5-6mm thick. Leaving more threads at the end. I didn't do it to gain more threads, the axle shafts we're properly sized, but I always have a little thread showing no matter what rims I put on it.
Look for a set of MRC aluminum hexes, or touring car 12mm hexes, which generally have a thinner profile than off-road 1/10 hexes. Just a thought 🤔
I agree. I have a lathe so I can cut the hexes down as necessary.
They really caught the short axle problem quickly so it was only the first few cars that went out that had the problem.
It seems all the replacement axles were the correct length.
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Morning Dave
Papi 365 Good morning ☀️🌞😃
Have a great day and be safe out there!
How fast? I would have guessed TOO FAST 😁 but that thing seems really stable 👍
I still have one that’s completely stock and running on 2s so this one is just to tinker with.
The gyro receiver really helps and the ability to turn down the steering rate is a big plus.
Thanks for checking it out. Have a great day and be safe out there!
Dave did you ever try a 3s yet with the 13t brushed conversion?
Chris Vallone I have not. I plan to bash it around one day on 2s to see what kind of temps I get first.
I might do a speed run anyway. We are headed home from Texas now but I have a ton of stuff to get done before I go back to work. Then I can get caught up with everyone’s videos. 😳😂
@@RCModSquad awesome, when you get back, let's catch up.
Bash with that combo and check the temperature. I'm planning to run with 14t motor.
+Germano Pinheiro Martins thanks! That’s exactly what I plan to do before I jump off to 3s. If it can’t bash on 2s I see no point.
Thanks again and have a fabulous day.
@@RCModSquad So, I'll decide what I'll do after your bash session with that combo.
Good video. Where do you get the better quality screws for this car? Thank you.
Thank you very much. This is the set I picked up from Amazon. Thanks for stopping by. Have a great day and be safe out there!
amzn.to/3ymDKVw
Great vid. 😀. What servo are you using?
This car has a HiTech HS-81 but I found what might be a better choose. It’s in my latest video but I’m waiting on a new ESC to test it.
This one requires a little modification to fit and the new one does not.
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Okay what a cool channel ....I think ai will spend some time here .....:-)
+Roland Keith please do! 👍🏻😃 I have some questions for you but I’ll ask them on your channel!
Nice mode I like the motor. What servo are you using. Mine is still stock and I was going to run it on 3s like I did once before and I hit the gas and heard a pop now the servo don’t work but i was thinking of getting rid of the stock electronics. I now the servo has to be small to fit under the drive shaft
I had to find it in an old video. It’s a HiTech HS-81
You have to sand the factory mount just a tiny bit to make it wider.
That’s what I lost on 3s was the steering.
The servo was ok but it Killed the ESC.
So it was the Esc and not the servo, I might just take the cheap way out I will have to think about this, thanks for the servo info
Kurt's RCs mine was. I had another car so I popped the servo wires and neither servo worked on the bad ESC and both worked on the good ESC.
I just recommend not using 3s on the stock electronics and not using a lower turn count motor even on 2s unless you gear the car down, which is a hassle since the motor mount isn’t adjustable.
I new stock ESC is pretty cheap if you can wait on one from China and not too bad if you pick one up from amazon or ebay.
Nice video!. Can i keep the original motor, change esc and use 3s?
I haven’t tried that but I do know I ran mine on 3s with the stock motor and the motor got pretty warm. If you add a heatsink and fan it might do better.
Thanks for stopping by and checking it out. Have a great day and be safe out there!
Did you have to buy a new gear. Or did you get the old one off. That seemed easier than going brushless.
I was able to get the gear off. It requires a fair amount of heat.
The good part about this is that the motor is all you need to change. It’s plenty fast like this and I think you could use a 15 turn motor and still be plenty fast.
Thanks for stopping by. Have a great day and be safe out there!
Hello David, thanks for your videos on the 144001! I’m looking for a bigger 2s battery pack, do you know the Max C rating and capacity the ESC can take?
Would it run on a 2s 4000mah 30c Pack?
Greetings from Germany!
You’re welcome! And thanks for stopping by.
I’ve used 30c before and it hasn’t been a problem. It’s seem like the ESC has some variation from car to car so be sure and check your temps when you first start using that battery.
I drilled 3 small holes in the wing i believe it made it a bit faster
Great info, thanks. I think the rear wing is definitely a problem at high speed.
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I have a new 12 turn 550 armma mega motor. Would it be worth the swap on stock electronics?
I’m not sure the stock ESC could handle it. Most likely it would need another ESC to keep up so you would need a receiver and servo also.
You might be able to put a fan on the stock ESC and try to keep it cool.
I know I'm late to the game here, but I just picked one of these up (V3 according to your information) Your videos are great. Did you notice the factory esc and motor getting excessively hot after a single pack? Also I have noticed the lipo cup off is very low, the battery has dipped below 3.2v per cell a few times. Also what size servo is it using, I bought a micro savox for it...but it is too small, it seems to be some where in between a standard 1/10 and the micro in my dromida 1/18th...
devilicous thanks for stopping by and checking it out. Mine gets pretty warm but stays within safe levels as long as I’m on a 2s pack. I still have one car that’s stock. I have several packs so I very seldom pull them very far down. I usually swap pack when I notice the car slowing down a bit.
One of the videos in my playlist on this car shows the servo I use in the car with the gyro. It’s a direct fit and I’m happy with the performance.
Here is a link to my servo install video and a link to the servo. Have a great day and be safe out there!
ruclips.net/video/10P-dHnnFaQ/видео.html
The servos that I use.
JX Servo PDI-1181 MG: amzn.to/34kQ1hH
The JX servo is a direct fit.
@@RCModSquad thank you, I will definitely dig into your catalogue of videos. Keep up the good work!!
I have that problem all the time when swapping motors or putting in bigger motors the shaft is too long I had the same problem when putting a 550 motor into the 1/10 torment all I did was take the RC motor outside to some nice smooth concrete and begin to grind away at the shaft it is made with such weak metal it just takes a few rubs or maybe even about 50 rubs on the concrete and shaft is is now shorter by rubbing it against the concrete
That would work. I didn’t want to take the pinion gear back off so I just used the grinder.
Thanks for stopping by and have a fabulous day. Be safe my friend!
@@RCModSquad that's a lot better
I wonder how many people get the connection between Mod Squad and "hello everybody"
I wanted to ask, on the a959b, is there a 3 wire servo that screws right in? Do you know which, because I've tried several now that won't.
I’m not sure. I’m 500 miles from my cars but I’ll be home for a bit tomorrow night and I’ll take a look.
I’m planning to add a gyro setup to mine anyway so I’ll see if any of the servos I have will fit and I’ll get back with you.
I just opened up my a959b and it has the same servo as my 144001. I’ll give you a link to the one I used. I had to use a little sandpaper to make the factory bracket opening a little wider. But that’s the only mod I had to do. It’s not an affiliate link.
Hitec 31081S HS-81 Sub Micro Servo www.amazon.com/dp/B0006O3WS2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_TDv.EbENEZR88
Hi sir, this 13 turns brushed motor is it possible for stocked 144001 esc to handle it without burnt
Thanks for stopping by and the question.
You might be able to if you put a fan on the ESC and don’t try 3s on it.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
Good vídeo!! Link to buy the motor and ESC pleaaaaase :))
I added a link for you in the description.
The ESC that smoked was in a combo package.
Good luck and thanks for stopping by.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
I'm going to be buying a 12428, and I'm definitely going to be switching away from the stock electronics. And I was considering moving it to a brushless motor, but seen a few videos where its just notchy in low speed situations (I do believe cogging was the term) vs a brushed motor, and I seen a few videos where the brushless motor was really smooth, so I guess motor and or ESC or both play a role in this.
I like speed, but I also like some low speed stuff like a little trail running and climbing. So I was considering staying brushed but with a different motor, but still swapping out the electronics. It seems like this brushed motor has a little bit of grunt to it.
I'm also looking at the Flysky FS-GT5 that comes with a receiver ( I need a good all around remote as I do have other RC cars, while 6 channels will be overkill, I like the overhead if I was to get something that would use those extra channels).
I know that a higher turn motor will result in lower top end but more torque, and a lower KV rating. And a lower turn motor will result in a faster top end, but lower torque but higher KV. I'd like it to still be fast, but have torque as well (gearing plays a roll here as well).
I don't really want to go with lipo, but if I absolutely have to I will have no choice (going to need a lipo fire bag and a fire proof box of some kind).
Great questions. There are a lot of reasons for cogging. The KV and gear choice but also you can turn down the “punch” a little. It basically gives the motor and ESC time to sync up at part throttle before it turns on the full power.
You can pick up a programming card or depending on the ESC program it with button pushes, by counting beeps and or LED blinks.
I higher KV motor with a smaller pinion and or larger spur is an option for brushed or brushless.
The gear combo slows you down and gives more torque regardless of the KV but you’re still need a high KV to keep some speed.
The 12428 has enough room in the battery tray to put 2 2s li-ion batteries in and you can buy or build a 2s parallel harness for it.
It sounds like a fun project.
@@RCModSquad I'd love to see the 12428 with two 2s lithium ion in parallel on what it'll do.
@@madmax2069 I’ll see if I can get a video together on that. It shouldn’t be too hard.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
@@RCModSquad you do the same
Try the stock esc with that motor or the stock motor of a979b the 540 motor...
I don’t think I would get 44mph with either of those options but I can’t use the stock ESC with the DumboRC radio and gyro receiver.
Thanks for stopping by and checking it out. Have a great day and be safe out there!
Did you break the motor in before you gunned it? Ive bought the same setup except my surpass motor is a 12 turn .i havent installed it yet, but that run was pretty cool, so i guess i better pull my finger out and swap them over. Love your vids keep em coming 👍
Thanks Dave. I did. I’ve done a water break-in before but I just run it in low voltage on my bench supply.
So far I’m pretty happy with this setup.
Thanks for checking it out and your kind words.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
Yes i saw that ,that was an insight as im pretty new to the scene,, so showing us your knowledge of electrics and how stuff works is invaluable to me , i really enjoy the in depth vids as it helps me to tinker around with my own rc cars more confidently these wl toys are just perfect entry level cars to explore the hobby, i have ventured into the brushless realm in the form of jlb cheetah too, (wanted a basher, couldnt afford traxxas/arrma yet) i bought the roller and added my own gear . Only a generic 120 amp esc 25kg servo and 2500 kv motor but it works for me And now i have the 144001 big brother on pre order, the 124019 which i am going to turn into a speed monster when it arrives, cant wait. Will you be reviewing it?
@@davebatman847 I think these are great intro level cars. You can run them completely stock on 2s or go bananas with upgrades. If you find you don’t like RC cars you’re not out a lot of money and if you like it and like to tinker it’s perfect.
I think you made some great choices on the JLB. I still might get one of those some day.
I pre-ordered a124018 and 124019. They haven’t shipped yet. But I will be looking very close at them when they get here.
Thanks for your support. It means a lot, especially right now. 🙏💯👍🏻
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If stock is 30 mph what would be the quickest way to get 40 mph? 44 mph from this combo is impressive, but I was hoping to do only a motor swap. There is a dizzying amount of brushed motors for sale. Do you know what the turn count is on the stock motor? It seems like a lot of people do 540 size, but what if I stuck with 550 size? I would like to keep some of the fun low-speed 4wd punch and drift capability that it has stock and not just turn it into a speed demon.
Sorry for the slow reply Matt. I’m not getting notifications on a lot of my videos.
I’m 500 miles from my cars right now but I’m pretty sure the stock 550 is a 17t. A 540 17t usually has a few more RPM so a little less power and a little more speed.
The ESC on this thing is the question mark for what you want to do. Some run fine in 3s, some move about a foot and some let the magic smile out when you connect the battery.
If you watch the run video I did with paddle tires in the snow, that was all stick on 3s. It did 40 mph and was quick.
I think the paddle tires just had too much traction in the snow and I did overheat the ESC.
On this car the ESC “should” be comparable to the rating for the stock ESC.
I wanted the range and adjustability of the DumboRC radio is the main reason for changing the ESC.
The 13t motor I’m using here is prey quick and fast. If you put a fan on it it
might handle this motor but again all the factory ESC’s don’t seem to be created equal.
If this didn’t answer what you needed or sparked another question let me know.
Thanks for watching and for the question.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
Anyone running a super stock bz? Would you get any performance increase or lose performance?
I haven't ever tried one but maybe some will be able to help you. Thanks for stopping by. Have a great day and be safe out there.
Do you think the stock esc combo would handle that motor?
This is a bit crazy! This is a year old comment that just popped up in studio. 😳
It probably doesn't matter anymore but I don't think the stock ESC could handle that motor for very long.
Sorry I just saw this today. 😢
Hello. Loving this educational video. Do you think Surpass Hobby 550 12T motor can run with stock ESC without any problems? Will it go faster than stock motor ? If not , do you know the reason why ?
Thanks 🙏 I really appreciate it.
The 12t motor would be faster than stock but the stock ESC wouldn’t handle it. The stock ESC might handle a 15t if you stay with 2s and a 20-25C battery. 👍🏻
@@RCModSquad Thanks for the replied man ! Do you know the specific reason why it cant handle the motor ? In the details, it said the motor is compatible with 60A brushed ESC. My stock ESC is 60A.
It supposed to be 60A but I’m not sure it is. You may try installing a fan to keep the ESC cool.
I’ve seen an awful lot of people burn up the stock ESC either running a lower turn motor or the stock motor on 3s. That’s why I’m thinking the stock ESC might not really be 60A.
@@RCModSquad Thank you man. I want to change the spur gear to metal. Do you recommended plastic or metal? Can you explain the reason. I am new to this hobby grade RC, sorry if i am bothering you.
Just crashed my 144001 into a lamppost full speed the stock 550 motor just caved in on itself so I got the motor from my a959b (540 motor) and it goes faster just a little less torque
zbit yep, the 540 is a little higher RPM motor.
It’s nice to have a few spare parts around. 💯👍🏻
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so that radio only works with one model ? you can't use it to run mulitiple models programed into it? thax
You can’t program multiple cars into it but you can use it with multiple cars. Every time you move it to another car you would have to bind it to the receiver on the new car.
The advantage of the Radiolink is you can have up to 10 cars and you just change the model. You can even have two profiles for the same car. One for speed runs and one for bashing. You just name the profile something you can remember.
@@RCModSquad i missed... what is radio link? a different radio you use also? i have an old skytech or something 3 ch that i can also use mulitple cars or boats...but no rx gyro...gyros are great upgrade for sure...thax
@@roadstar499 yes, it’s a different brand of radio. The range is amazing and it gives a lot more control over everything in the car. You can set steering endpoints and rates and the same for the throttle.
I have three 144001 cars. One I left stock then then the brushed car and a one I installed a 2845 brushless motor in.
It’s a lot more work to keep the stock gears and I had to modify the factory motor mount but I think the smaller motor is a better match for the car.
Here’s a link to a video on the Radiolink radio. ruclips.net/video/-Ho20x4Kkt0/видео.html
Hey what differential do you recommend for this car it's just that mine always strips out
So far I haven’t had any issues with the differentials so I haven’t had a need to look at replacing them. WLtoys has a website with all the upgrade parts listed so you can order the metal upgrade diffs from them or get the part number and do a search to find a better price.
If I find something on this I’ll put it in a future video.
Thanks for stopping by and have a fabulous day.
@@RCModSquad thanks but I ordered a diff from them a month ago and it hasn't even shipped
What was the temp of the motor on 2's? 44mph is rolling brother! 3's 😁👍 Nice! Awesome lil buggy!
Good morning my brother! The ESC and motor were just barely warm to the touch. The entire run was what you saw so it really didn’t have much time to heat up. That’s why I want to run it a bit more on 2s before I try 3s. I’ll get out the temp gauge and see what it’s actually doing after a little longer run.
I’ll need a better spot too. 😳😂😂
Have a great day my friend and be safe out there!
Good morning my brother! The ESC and motor were just barely warm to the touch. The entire run was what you saw so it really didn’t have much time to heat up. That’s why I want to run it a bit more on 2s before I try 3s. I’ll get out the temp gauge and see what it’s actually doing after a little longer run.
I’ll need a better spot too. 😳😂😂
Have a great day my friend and be safe out there!
@@RCModSquad Very nice my bro! Running sweet! 3's will be fast! Awesome buggy! Thanks and have a great day! 🙏
Is there a specific name for a standard connector servo for this car and the common wltoys 12428 variants?
scannaunderscore1 thanks for stopping by, they use a Futaba connector. If you do a google search (or Amazon) for those they are easy to find.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
@@RCModSquad yes the common futaba, but it's the size of the servos. Struggling to find they are like slimline compared to what you normally see
So overall, which is the best brushed engine for 144001? I am looking for crawling and go to the the trail, I am okay with stock top speed.
If you're interested in crawling I'd say to go with a higher turn motor. You might lose a little speed though. Maybe a 27 to 35 turn.
If you want to get a little speed back you could change the ESC and bump up to a 3s LiPo.
@@RCModSquad I currently have the 2845 motor 3800 kvs, with 16BL30 ECU. It runs pretty fast. Way too fast on 3s. It is cool for bragging, but I hate the cogging I get when rolling from complete stop. I tried all setting on the card, and I can't seem to get rid of it completely. I miss the old 550 motor.
When you say I should try at 27 or 35 turn, are you talking about the 550 brushed or the 540? I wish I would have found all your videos earlier. You've answered so many questions including me freaking out after installing the 2845 when I noticed it was going faster in reverse than forward haha. Thank you very much.
@@tjrick I'm happy it's helped a bit. Either the 540 or 550 would be fine.
The 2845 in a lower KV like 3100 might help or you can go to a smaller pinion. That will slow it down and should get rid of the cogging also.
With the smaller pinion it will have more torque and be more controllable at lower speeds. It also helps lower the temps on the ESC.
Hi, asking a question for advice, i am a newbie :)
I bought and recived two 144001 two weeks ago. My issue is that i already have burned two motors. It has happened after just 10 minutes running on included LiPo 2600mA battery. The car stops and smokes. I have only half speed adjusted on the controller.
MY QUESTION:
Is this common?
Will a heatsink solve this overheating issue?
Is there a better more durable brushed motor exchangeble with the original stock 550 motor?
Thanks in advance!
Sorry for the delay, it’s been a very busy few weeks.
I would say it is definitely not common to burn up the stock motors. If you were running five or six full packs without a break to cool off on a hot day this could happen but not on a single pack.
A heatsink never hurts anything but shouldn’t be a requirement on a stock car.
Two things pop into my head. One would be if you are running oversized tires. And secondly, and most likely, if you tighten the wheel nuts too tight they don’t turn freely and that greater increases the load on the motor.
If you watched any of the other videos that told you about the wheel nuts falling off you might have them too tight.
The 12mm plastic wheel hex is very easy to over tighten. Aluminum hexs are much more forgiving.
Higher turn motors run cooler but slower, lower turn motors run faster but hotter.
Let me know if any of this helps and we can explore more if needed.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
@@RCModSquad Thanks for your indepth reply, much appriciated!
The tightness of wheel nuts can definately be a issue. First run i ever had a front tire came off, so i have tightened them all a bit before every race. I will have them more loose from now on, and get some aluminum hex also.
My cars are totally stock versions, no upgrades yet, stock tires.
Thanks again! 🙏
(Will get back with result when i have tested the above for a while)
Did you ever run this on 3S?
Sorry for the delay, I’m not getting notifications and having to go back through videos to find them.
I never did try 3s on this. I’m thinking it would be a bit much in the ESC. It’s fast enough for me on 2s. If you were just doing short speed runs it might be ok.
I think a 15-17t would be better for 3s. You would get more speed than this but not overload the ESC.
Cool Video 😎 What is fastet 6 or 13 Turn ? Thx
Deraustrianer 1911 basically the lower the turn count the higher the RPM of the motor.
The downside to lower turn count motors is they use more current so it’s a bigger load on the ESC and generates a lot of heat.
RC ModSquad thx
Deraustrianer 1911 You’re welcome! Thanks for stopping by.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
RC ModSquad I have a little question, what else do I need so that mine is also as fast as the engine and control unit and tires in a set or separately? Can I buy an expensive one and a cheaper one at Amazon and Banggood, and which body can I take all of the 1:14? Thanks also want my car to go as fast as yours have the same only I don't know my way around very well 😎 Thanks again for your help. I also wish you a nice weekend and watch out because of Corona. Lg Max
Oh, the surpass esc might be rated for crawlers... I think the way to program the other esc is by programming card. Also I wouldn't trust surpass hobbies electronic speed controllers.
I think one of the problems is there are people passing off copies of other peoples stuff. It can be hard to find a source for the real products made by some companies.
It doesn’t mean that none of the clones work but it’s hard to trust people that take shortcuts and copy stuff.
@@RCModSquad thanks for the reply. I think I have a similar 60a esc made by GoolRC.
@@Nlangkirby135 You’re welcome! In reality there are only a few companies that make the parts for everyone. You can certainly change the specs and put your name on them.
I contacted one company that builds off road RCs and I can spec them out to include real oil shocks, choose the color and decal pack and call them whatever I want. But I had to order a minimum of 5000 units. I’m sure it’s the same for motors and ESCs.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
i just fried another esc...so i saw this surpass combo on bg... 44 mph is awesome on 2s...no need for 3s for me...did you ever try 3s with this bugger? i am thinking if it did not go up in flames and the tires rip off it would be 65 mph car! which is insane... thanks for sharing!
I haven’t tried 3s. It’s kinda like you said, it’s plenty fast like it is. I’m not trying to do speed runs with it and it’s already fast enough to crash. 😃😃
Thanks for stopping by. Have a great day and be safe out there!
@@RCModSquad Hopefully bg will give me credit from this one that fried..it was rated for 3s worked great on 2s with stock then was insane with 3.9 per cell 1300 3s.. ran it hard for 5 mins...then a couple days later ran it a little on stock 2s...and a week later plugged my 1300 fully charged 3s 40c in it,put the body on than hit the switch...within 10 secs it was smoking and by the time i got the body off esc was in flames ..i had to blow it out.... i have burned motors,esc's and batteries over last 15 years,but never like that... i usually had at least 30 seconds running it... crazy... Do you think surpass should hold up as well of better than stock 550...??? thanks again
@@roadstar499 I think one problem is there are a lot of counterfeit parts floating around and it’s hard to tell what’s real and what’s not.
There was a big problem with Bluetooth headsets. The factory the made them for a major company would staff it at night and make copies of the originals. I’m sure there are factories that do this in almost every industry.
@@RCModSquad yes i agree... this esc had many positive reviews... and i liked that i could run 3s...but even 2s seemed faster than my stock esc...best to just go with a setup like you have or pickup another esc and stick with 2s... thanks
How is the temperature of that motor?
Germano Pinheiro Martins the only run time I have was exactly what was in the video so I really can’t give you a good answer. With that short run the motor and ESC were barely warm to the touch.
I will be trying to get more run time soon and I will post the results.
Thanks for stopping by and have a great day.
Lucky you still have a car left, could’ve been bad
cooking with sherry I’m luck the body wasn’t on it.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
Sir which is the best brushed motor for 14401??
I think a 15t to 17t would be a choice. I think those would keep the heat from building up too much if you bash a lot.
If you just plan to do short speed runs the 13t does a good job but you need to watch the temps on the motor and the ESC pretty close.
@@RCModSquad sir can I just put a959b motor and will there be any heat issues?
@@riozflyti the a959b would work well and you shouldn’t have any more problems with that than the stock motor.
I had the exact same esc in my 979b a couple months ago and it blew straight away, after applying throttle on 2s just to check it, didnt even run the car.. they obviously are junk
PERTH WEST OZ RC I was wondering if that was the same one you had problems with. I couldn’t remember which car it was in but I was gonna go look later.
It was quirky from the start. If I hit it hard it acted like a low battery shutdown. If I eased into the throttle it would go. I made two low speed passes then tried the punch again and it worked. I did one high speed run which went well then turned around and hit it again and when I let up it didn’t slow down but started looking like a smoke bomb and stopped. Thankfully I didn’t have the body on it at the time.
I might try to contact them and see what they say.
Thanks for dropping by and have a fabulous day my friend.
@@RCModSquad it was never on camera as I was rebuilding the 979b , in fact it was supposed to be the new replacement esc after that fire I had doing that 3s speed run when the other 60a one popped. So this other one made it 2 faulty ones in a row.. I have since converted back to the factory wltoys stock rx/esc combo with no issues... Go figure!
PERTH WEST OZ RC no kidding 😂 I didn’t turn on the camera since I was just going to check the gyro calibration.
It was a LOT of smoke. 😳
how do know what version car you have
The V1 car had a remote switch on the ESC, the V2 has a little tab on the ESC to power it up and the V3 has a little red button on the ESC.
@@RCModSquad thanks i was wondering i just bought one and i watched like all your videos and i seen u said about the droop screw and a few differnt things were differnt thanks for the reply appricate it
@@johnporter1613 thanks for checking it out and your support.
The V1 and V2 should all be sold out by now. The V1 had short axles that didn’t engage the Nylock nuts very well. I think the V1 was also the only one without the hole in the rear arm for droop screws.
If you have the the V2 or V3 they should be the same except for the red button on the ESC. The ESC performance should be the same on all three.
I wouldn’t gamble on the 3s lottery. The very latest ones along with the 124018 and 124019 have a sticker on the ESC that says 7.4 volts.
I have the 124018 and my 124019 showed up yesterday. I should get a couple of videos out on those soon.
I’m waiting on a few supplies right now.
Have a fabulous day and be safe out there.
No probem I was hoping I didn't have the short axel one for sure and I'll be looking forward for new videos
Like this,192
Thank you 🙏💯👍🏻
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How many turns is stock motor
I’m not positive but I think the stock 550 is a 27t.
Bro is the stock gearings all are metal???
Also, what is the servo you used?
It’s a hitech HS-81. I’m gonna show that in my next video with the brushless car. You have to do a slight mod on the servo mount.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
@@RCModSquad Awesome, looking forward to it. Hey maybe one day we can do a collab? We both have these baby RUclips RC channels, maybe a Q&A might be cool? Just a thought.
Vallone's RC Hobby that might be fun. I have zero idea how that works.
@@RCModSquad I can look into it, might be like a skype call or ZOOM.
+Vallone's RC Hobby ok, let me know and we can talk about it more. My only day off is Monday but I’m home a couple of evenings but kinda late. I’m at work about 100 hours a week.
1/14th scale buggy going 44mph on 2s...why use brushless?
The brushless motors last longer and they are more efficient on the batteries.
@@RCModSquad yes... i have many brushless planes...but for performance that good in a brushed motor why bother if you are just having some fun... i have also had brushed and brushless buggies many years ago...
@@roadstar499 well if the motor lasts longer you won’t need to replace it or rebuild it and I like extended run times.
Neither is wrong.
Can you do some giveaways please
That’s a good idea.
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I would of been more inclined to notch the cover. It's not as if it's gona leak out all the gear oil.
Especially since I don’t lube plastic gears. I was more hoping to keep dirt out.
Thanks for checking it out and have a fabulous day.
@@RCModSquad Yeah I see your point and understand your keping the cover intact. I being a bit unusual perhaps would of cut the cover to preserve the shaft on the off chance the motor ever ends up in something else. Great video. I'm trying to get back into rc and the new electric stuff looks much faster than when I was a kid.
@@captainchaos3053 it’s a lot faster now. The nicad batteries couldn’t supply the kind of power the new battery technology can. I haven’t started any of my nitro stuff in years. I still love the sound and smell but it’s pretty loud.
At one time all my neighbors were at work for a couple of hours while I was home so I could run it in the street but I’ve got new neighbors now that have little kids so I don’t want to wake them up.
I think most anything I might move that motor to would use the same shaft length since they all pretty much use the same 540 or 550.
I doubt I’ll move that though. It’s a pretty good match to that car.
@@RCModSquad I loved all my nitro stuff even way back when my SG red one was current (a real Italian SG before they got bought over) on 25% nitro I could get lean enough to hit 60mph genuine through a speed trap and a bit more fully wound out but that needed a fair bit of space. Alot of RUclips video showing GPS speeds but unless the tech has moved on massively they give an average speed over a long distance fairly accurate but short bursts can be a bit erratic. My stack pro race can read 1 or 2 mph sitting still and that's a £500 instrument.
@@captainchaos3053 it depends on the refresh rate on the GPS. The accuracy is great but you have to maintain the speed for a bit to lock it in. They will always read low so that’s better than too fast.
I’ve run several in my personal vehicles and if I hold a steady speed for a few seconds they all show the same speed but rapid acceleration some will be a bit behind.
I have a cheap one that was actually made for a bicycle. The application didn’t require a need for rapid acceleration. 😂
It’s very accurate but you need to hold the speed too long. One extra second at 70+ mph is too long for the places I have to do my speed runs. 😳😉
hello grandpa.., what the meanings of 13t brushed?
13T meanings?
what is the meaning of 13t, what is 13t?
pinion gear or what??
That’s the number of windings or turns on the armature in the motor.
The basic way it works is the more turns it has it will generally give less speed but more power. Lower turn motors spin faster but have a little less power.
Thanks for checking it out.
Have a great day and be safe out there!
@@RCModSquad Thank you very much Grandpa, I hope you are always healthy in unfavorable weather conditions there,
greetings from Indonesia..
Sorry, In the 144001
I figured that’s what you were asking about. 😃
Have a great day and be safe out there!
RC ModSquad Thanks for the reply, I have a fan on it already. You be safe out there too.
robert whitt You’re welcome! Be safe my friend!
I went ahead and did the armma mega 550 swap and with my phone taped to it I hit 49 mph. It is slightly down hill but that’s still crazy fast for brushed! Thanks for your videos, I learn a lot from them.