27,000 pot in a 5/10 game at Bellagio to a one outer on the river after all-in with Ax flush at the tail end of an epic 30hr session having run up 1k to 10K at 2/5.
Hard to say exactly, depending on how you figure it it was either my Jack high SF (first 5) beat on the river by a gutshot Royal in a nose bleed stud game (pre jackpot days) 4 way action to 5th st OR my 7h 8h (flopped SF) in a 20/40 hold-em game, river came Kh. 4 way action capped pre ... (7h 8h, 10-10, JJ, Qh Ks) board paired 9's on the turn. It WAS a jackpot game (jackpot was 60K+ too) but void because Qh Ks couldn't play both cards. Broke the steering wheel on my car in the parking lot of Ft McDowell shortly thereafter.
5:20-6:20 Jonathan makes the most pertinent point which could have saved Ethan from punting the way he did. It goes back to the concept of “time bank tells”. Time bank tells are only relatively reliable to an extent when playing bad players which you will typically mostly find at lower stakes. It may be tough being consistently deliberate with the amount of time you take with each decision to avoid giving away any time bank tells to your opponents if you have issues with patience, however I wouldn’t recommend anyone who is naturally impatient to try to make a living grinding at the poker tables. But it’s critical you take around the same amount of time for each decision, whether it’s a tough decision or an easy one where you already know what your next move(s) are/is, so your opponent’s can’t get any tells as to your potential hand strength or range. To instantly check back like that on an A high flop as the 4 bettor pre looks beyond suspicious to any real cash game pro. Ben is a wealthy rec who clearly doesn’t have a great grasp of GTO or most in depth poker strategies or concepts. In my experience, recreational players who instantly check back a great flop for their range IP after 4 betting preflop, it’s nearly ALWAYS a monster hand looking to take a trappy/bluffy line to try to max their value on later streets. Ben is bad enough that he could have been playing a hand like pocket queens or tens face up with the check back, which is why I don’t mind Ethan flatting the big delayed Cbet on the turn. It lets Ben know Ethan really does have something, and at that point, Ben isn’t a good enough player to have many bluffs on the river. I have seen Ben attempt some really bad bluffs in the past on HCL, but it was never in a situation like this where both he and his opponent are playing deep, the pot is very inflated and your opponent clearly has at least a marginal made hand. These are spots where players like Ben just aren’t going to have many, if any bluffs on the river. This, along with the time bank tell Ben gave away on the flop are the reasons calling the river was a straight up punt.
Yeah that was bad. Dude checks, which you usually only due with junk or the nuts. Then he raises as if to say "I didn't get you to raise with a check, I need to get some $$$ out of this and I can't wait for your hand to hit". Forget the Js. The A should be reason enough to just bail.
As a staker, I was disappointed with the river call. Ben's never taking that line unless he has nuts. He may be splashy pre, but he's super tight post. I'd imagine Rampage would be aware of this had he spent some time reviewing prior hand histories on his opponents ahead of this session.
That would require actually working on his game. Rather than just thinking he's good and convincing others. I suggested over a year ago he spend 10k and get coaching from Tommy Angelo. He's coached some of the biggest game players in poker. I dealt million dollar buy in games with players I know were coached by him. How is it Rampage thinks he's "above" these players? Lol
36k pot in a 50/100 game at the Tampa Bay Hard Rock. My suited AK vs opponent's suited A6. Heads up in a 3-bet pot to a flop of A 9 3 rainbow. Opponent who is OOP leads out. I flat. Turn is another A. He checks. I throw out a half-pot sized bet. He thinks for a little while then jams. I snap and immediately table my hand showing him the bad news. River is a 6. GG's. Also, I've been WAITING for your analysis on this hand SO bad!
As soon as the second ace hits the board you gotta be aware that the villian could of filled up with a pocket pair. You just have a set, just saying...
Why flat flop? Villains leading range is weak top pair or draws, as there are no draws he has a middling ace a lot here. Top pair isn't folding to a single raise. Goal would be to take the betting lead and try and get it in on the turn depending on the SPR
Also, when Ben makes that bet @ 8 minutes where you talk about how he splashes the pot, he also pre loads his river bet by cutting chips off a taller stack and putting them on the smaller stack. Definitely a sign of strength.
People do this all the time in hands... sometimes it's to prevent opponents from betting, which is not what you do when you're strong. It's not a reliable tell
@@davids4063 yeah I’ve seen it both ways. I’ve seen good players try to intimidate weaker players into checking back on the next street by pre-cutting some chips. But I’ve also seen players do it when they have a big hand and they get too excited
Largest pot I ever lost: was playing 200NL online back when 200NL still had as many fish as regs. Me and another reg had gotten our stacks up to about 6x the buy in. Long story short I hit A-high flush on the turn and got it in against a straight flush.
Haha. I am a small stakes live 1/2 player. I had something similar. I lost about $450 to a guy. Then a few days later I took a little over $600 from him. Then a week after that I took another $500 from him. He is a reg at my room. I think he hates me. Which I don't want. I'd like to be on good terms with all the regs. And punish all the fish. But it just doesn't seem to happen that way. I usually get sucked out on by the fish and then I punish all the reg's.
Agreed on the time Bank tell. Pretty suspicious. You're likely only beating qq at this point, or a miracle chop if Ben somehow has kk as well. Plus, if you are sitting there as Rampage on the turn, you have to be thinking that you have to live to play another hand. You are facing a $48k bet, plus the near certainty of another monster bet on the river that you are likely lighting on fire if you put it in. So your game theory options are: 1) lose preflop $ of ~$35k 2) lose all bets of most likely 35+48+~90=~$173k or more (far and away the most likely outcome) 3) lose 35+48= $83k if Ben does not fear your turn call and river barrels and you find the fold 4) win $83k if Ben has nothing, fears your turn call, can't find a big river bluff and checks the river 5) win ~$200+k if Ben bluffs all the way with nothing, assuming Ben's river bluff has to be very large to try and induce a fold Given the teeny tiny range of likely hands you are beating, the suspicious time bank tell of Ben's flop checkback, and properly weighting your game theory options, folding the turn bet with minimal losses is overwhelmingly the best option. At this point, you should heavily consider if Rampage is in over his head at these stakes and his recent success is more likely just a lengthy heater.
If Ben is loose/aggr and he checks flop after 4 betting while in position... alarms are going off in my head that he crushed it. I'm folding to the A going forward unless I hit my K on the turn.
Very logical answer …. Sometimes your kings are no good … if your hand doesn’t improve you don’t put 160k in the pot …. As disgusting the flop n turn was I would have folded on the turn and play the next hand with 130k still in my stack
Why the hell wouldn't that A in the door be enough to shut down Rampage? I agree the insta-check on the flop and the splash is good information that didn't seem to penetrate.
Love your breakdowns! Had the biggest pot of my life yesterday Jonathan 4800 effective with Ad Qh 5-10-25 I make it 75 LAG straddle makes it 225 I call. Flop comes Ks Js 10c Straddle makes it 300 I make it 1500 he goes all in Two boards brick brick brick brick I scoop 9600 he had set of jacks
You raise 5X on flop with the nuts IP? You got lucky he had a set there because he can easily pitch AK KQ QQ QJ and even J10 at some frequency. I guess if you know he's never folding 2p+ or any draw, it's fine. But you don't need to raise that big in position. You can easily go 950 here 14 on turns and have over 1/2 pot river jam. I guess if you playing a strategy where you wanna get it in on flops and run it twice to minimize variance it's cool. But I don't like the sizing.
You either 5-bet to $110-115k or call and prepare to fold on similar flops. The only hand you beat is QQ. If Ben plays QQ that well just assuming you have KK then he deserves the pot.
10/25£ at Vic. Got it in with qq on K high bord vs a well know pro that was super drunk. He had flushdraw that I put him on and got there on the turn. £11k pot.
Biggest loss I took was $1500 at a 2/5 table. Raised $30 with pocket 9’s preflop. Got one caller and flop came 9-3-2. I bet out $60, he raised to $150, I shoved. He called with pocket 3’s for a “set over set” scenario. River card was a 3, giving him quads. I walked away from the table absolutely stunned. Long drive home filled with many obscenities and questioning my terrible luck😂
Well 1st thing. Idk why you'd jam over 1k into a $150 raise. But odds were it was all going in the middle anyway so not a big mistake. 2nd thing. It's just variance. Only thing you can do is keep your chin up and keep grinding. As long as you're playing smart you will make it back. Might not be in 1 session. But over time it will come back.
@@wesch6354 Thanks. Appreciate the feedback. I jammed because his postflop reraise to $150 indicated either having lower sets or overpairs and his likelihood of calling me was high based on what I’d seen him call players on prior to that hand. Having the nuts, I saw no downside to jamming in that spot. The result was just variance, like you said. Compared to what I’ve won over time, this was just a blip on the radar. (But an unforgettable one, nonetheless..lol)
Oh my goodness, the 100,000 hand that Jonathan talks about at the end of the video, in which he was involved, is sick! Your opponent was foolish enough to muck his cards after all the community cards are out, and his neighbor sitting next to him stops him from doing so and forces him to flip it up! And the villain almost mucks it twice! Even if the neighbor saw the cards, the neighbor should have let him muck! If the villain can't read his own hand, and wants to muck, then he doesn't deserve the 100,000 pot! It really shouldn't have been the neighbor's business; especially when the pot was so high. I'm sure you handled like a pro and didn't scold the neighbor for doing that (as probably 80% of the player population would in that spot), but it sure is tilting to the max.
The snap check back on the flop is so weird! Agreed. Gotta mean something. And then a splashy big turn bet. Even weirder. He seemed calm and assured of himself demeanor wise- but is that fake? Who knows.. Good for him for not talking to Rampage. In the other hand Rampage made a good fold , figured out the guy on his left was trying to talk him into a call. That was obvious But this hand not so obvious. Really like your analysis of it.
It wasn't that weird. Pretty obvious he checked so Rampage would raise. When he didn't get the raise, he decided to raise himself. You don't want Rampage checking his way to a river card and catching a hand. And you want to get paid off. I check with the nuts all the time so I would have sniffed this out. What's weird is that Rampage didn't raise after the check. So it's like he knew Ben might have something, but then he calls his big raise, lol. Not exactly consistent play. Then again, maybe Rampage checked back because he thought he was best. Either way, Rampage should have raised after the check. At least to get an idea of where he was.
@@fmcdomer the irony is, a big bet would look weaker than a small bet or a check, imho - After all, you want them to stick around if you have the nuts, and scare them off if u don't. - I think Rampage fell in love with his cards and just couldn't let them go.
I hated watching him punt this live. He only called preflop, ostensibly to see if an A would come and proceed accordingly. The A comes and he still punted. I think if he was willing to call 40k+ post-flop and 8ok+ on the river...he should have made it 90-120k preflop.
well in my games I'm calling turn folding river, but idk i think this is mainly a lesson on why you should 5 bet KK preflop vs any mildly competent opponent and ignore that niggling fear that the 4 bet could be aces 🙃
This is just my opinion--you may not agree with it, but if I picked up KK oop, I would not automatically assume that my opponent is holding AA, even though it is a possibility. And he has less liklihood of holding AK, since I have two Kings in my hand. I'm quite happy with a 70% preflop advantage, and I would have never called the raise in that spot. I would have re-raised or maybe shoved, even if I get a fold or disaster strikes later. Instead of picking up a small pot, if Ben folds to the re-raise or shove, he lost a minor fortune whereas he could have gotten J10 or Ax hands to fold pre-flop. If Ben is crazy and calls an all in or a re-raise preflop, then you got it in with the best of it at a significant advantage and the outcome is irrelevant.
its not about that. Rampage knew he was ahead preflop but he wanted to disguise his hand. If he 5-bet there it would’ve been too obvious what he had. I would probably just call there too depending on the action and my opponent.
@@jasperhalsey8574 I'm re-raising in this spot about 100% of the time. All he was thinking about was extracting more money from most likely a weaker premium or Ax type hands, and even though he was a favorite preflop, a disasterous flop hit. Re-raising preflop defines your opponents hand that you're up against. AA and QQ are probably going to call the re-raise. AA will go all in probably. AK (although improbable that it was dealt to the opponent because Rampunt was holding KK) is probably going to call the re-raise. AQ maybe, AJ downward probably not. That JT would have been thrown into the muck preflop with a re-raise and he would have walked away with a small pot. Consider by just calling a big raise there, OOP I might add, he did NOTHING to determine what his opponent's hand was; he got zero information, and then when the flop hit, he was stuggling immensely to determine whether he was ahead or behind instead of making the decision making process way easier.
His call is a pure bluff catcher. But… The snap check on flop and a bet on turn shows strenght. And the river bet, when Rampage could have easily flopped a trips or even full house, shows even more strenght. Call on the turn on this board is strong and should lead to showdown on river, if opponent has any pocket pair or even A10 AQ
I wonder if players who wearnt RUclips vloggers could still play high stakes regularly? Its ok if they loose overall at poker as long as they get a paycheck each month from RUclips
Largest pot I ever lost was 1100 when I was taking a shot from 1-3 to 2-5, got it in with bottom set vs top set, just a cooler but it really hurt at the time. On the positive note, the largest pot I ever won was with king nine out of the big blind in a limped pot in 1-3, flopped the second nut straight vs the bottom end of a straight, two 2-pair combos, so they said, and ace queen and king queen, and we were all in by the river and I faded everything. A six way all in and I had everyone covered. Pretty crazy!
You're probably a donkey as well. Ben 4 bets to $33k pre flop and then checks back post. That's 100% way too strong. Especially in this game. Go watch the entire 6 hour stream.
The biggest pot I lost was around 5k in 2/5 in 4b pot when I had AA and flop was T83r. He went all in over my bet and I snap called. He had AK. JQ run out
Ben’s line would scream AA to me with that check on the flop. It’s saying I hit the whole flop so I need you to catch up. If he 4 bet bluffing he’s C betting every time here.
The biggest pot I lost was somewhere between 1k and 1200. I had A5h in mp about $650 in my stack. I bet around 8bb to try and isolate because this game is pretty loose. I get 2 calls. Flop is A65 rainbow with 1 heart. Action on me 1st. One opponent I have pegged as playing with any Ax pretty aggressively. So I bet out $25 expecting a call. 1st opponent folds. Loose crazy opponent raises to $75. 2 things goes through my head at the same time. 1 thing. guy might actually have my 2p beat. 2nd. This guy plays any Ax very aggressively so he probably has a worse A than me. So I flat. I think turn was 7 or 8 I can't remember. It brought in a flush draw but not for hearts. I checked, he bet $100. Now I'm thinking he probably has AK, AQ, AJ, or AT. Maybe some pocket pairs. Possibly hit a set. But I talk myself into making the call because if he is holding Ax which is the most likely hand I have him on I'm probably ahead. Then the river was a K. This is where I'm worried that he sucked out. I lead out for $300. I honestly don't know why. Thinking back I should have just checked. But at the time I was thinking if he's on Ax and doesn't have the K this bet will get him to fold. Instead he jammed over me. At this point I am about 90% sure I'm beat. But I just had to see it because It was only a little over 200 more to see. He didn't want to show until I did. So I finally relented and showed so I would know. I showed my 2 pair. And he showed A6 for a flopped bigger 2 pair.
This is a wrong game for ethan. Too much at stake everyone is drooling for his chips. When everyone is richer than you they will push you out. Ben, nikball got more money behind. While ethan only got 300k limit. Ethan is a very good player but he cant bluff these deep stacks bcuz it would be easy call.
Ive never played high stakes cash but i played a ton of $500/1000 HU Hyper SNGs. As far as BBs the biggest pot I ever lost was almost 500BBs....playing 50PLO.....it hurt because it was a grind getting my stack up. Probably 6 hours. AAJ10ds ...3 bet pot pre, he flatted. Flopped the nut straight KcQc10h but it puts a club flush draw out although i have a heart redraw if he has a straight as well. uit that was with the Ace/Jack so redraw to the nuts. I get it in 60-40 and lose to a river club. He had Ac5c9s9d
After calling a 4-bet and a turn bet, rampage looks a lot like he holds an ace. His opponent would have to worry betting half pot as a bluff that he's simply betting into a bunch of aq, ak, and slow played aa and JJ, which will never fold. Rampage also should have more jx in his range as the 3-bet caller, so this is a dangerous board to lose your mind on with 87s or 99 or kq. If the guy is that aggressive, I suppose you can pay him, but it takes a special kind of guy to snap-check-back the flop with a bluff, planning to represent a flop slow-play later. Many players in 4-bet pots would instead opt to check slowly with their medium strength pairs and gunshots, hoping rampage will allow a free turn. And if they did hold 76s or some such bluff, why not simply bet the flop and turn, as this will get almost any player to release tt-kk.
Doyle Brunson once said the key to no limit hold'em is to put a man to a decision for all his chips. Ben had just done it with the 4-bet, he's representing aces, the only hand better than Kow-boys. Rampage can't call and give him a chance to catch. Rampage can only fold if he believes Ben has aces. Or he can shove his stack in Ben's face and take the almost 50k pot down.
With regards to this hand itself, we’re way off the reservation in terms of theory-land. Ben should virtually never have JT (or even many Jx) in his 4-bet range. I don’t think Ben checks a lot on that board unless he has exactly AA/JJ/AJ and maybe some wheel Ax that wants to pot control. The vast majority of the time Ben bets here. So I think in Rampage’s spot this is a call turn, fold spot. I can understand the call on the river because you do block a logical value hand (AK) pretty heavily, but AK probably doesn’t take this line. But it’s Ben, he does weird aggro donk stuff and I can understand the call even though it feels bad.
Not sure about ever 5betting pre, what does a 5betting range even look like? I mean unless they villain is completely out to lunch a call seems somewhat balanced
If I get 4-bet with KK and ace shows up, I just fold and move on to a better spot. Sure, your opponent will have an occasional bluff, but that’s such a small percentage, that you will just end up with a huge net loss in a long run trying to bluff catch them
In hindsight… we’ll it’s easy to say now but seeing how the band went preflop, I feel Rampage made a mistake there, NEVER, would I flat in that position. None the less, we all play differently and so I’m sure he will learn his lesson.
Rampage you’ll learn more now what to do with Kings if there are so many hands that can beat with that board!! With that in mind..you’re still a SUPERSTAR!!💥in my book!! AND the jealous haters will be forever be HATING!! because they’re jealous!!😂😂😂
I see people commenting about how he’s playing above his bankroll which is probably true, but did he not get backed by heaps of people off stake kings to play anyway?
I'm sorry. But that was a bone head call by rampage. If Ben is willing to 4-bet that pot I'm putting him on AK or at worst AQs. AA, KK, QQ or JJ. Then once he bets the turn and river I'm eliminating KK, and QQ from that range. That only leaves hands that KK is losing to. Granted with this read I would have been wrong on the range. But I would have been right enough to save money.
Ive watched Ben play on previous live streams. He is loose/aggressive, but with JJA on the flop and his bet I probably wouldve folded my Kings when he bet the turn. Theres always future hands to play against him to extract money. But its easy when you can see his cards live stream.....
i would have 5b there with KK because there is no reason not to. if they had QQ or AK would likely get a call. JTo is an easy fold and wouldnt get bbed
I totally agree with you Jun. Rampunt would have won a small pot, which is better than playing postflop with an unknown hand and a disasterous board, even if you think you can win more by calling.
@@ianforsyth2692 I try to play tricky now and then when I have a big pocket pair.....I tend to lose more often by allowing them to see the flop, and it typically is for a bigger pot because they got in cheap with something that hits 2 pair, a flush or the board pairs to give them a set......argggg.......sometimes it is just better to cash out and take what is already on the table. :)
When you're opponent has 33k in preflop and you have kings there's only 1 play and that is all in. There's no reason to take it to the streets. Take your free 33k and bounce.
He looks like a Jamie gold. Sincerely hope he quit this high stakes game, since he seems like a nice guy. He got lucky in those torney and donking those money at these high stakes cash.
He is *way* better than Jamie Gold. And the guys doing the 4-betting here are not “old school” Sammy Farhas who only have AA. JTo is a pretty awful 4-bet bluff too. This guy will go bust doing that.
BIGGEST POT I LOST WAS LIKE $800 AT 2-5 THANK GOD AND I LEARNED ALOT FROM THAT HAND ALOT OF TELLS AND EASY FOR ME TO GET AWAY FROM IT..WINNING HAND WAS A KING HIGH FLUSH OVER MY EIGHT HIGH FLUSH
Rampage has a lot of trouble getting away from pairs in general, and especially high pairs. When you listen to his videos, he's always coming up with a rationale for why he thinks his hand is "good most of the time". He admits to preferring a "high-variance" style of play. That's well and good, provided your bankroll can handle the variance at the stakes you're playing. You have to realize that many rec players (good and bad) have MILLIONS they can afford to piss away at the table. Does Rampage have that kind of long-term bankroll?
£2000 and change. At £1/£2. Bc I exposed my (winning) hand facing a bet at a casino that banned that play. I'd been in the blender for a week with three jacks (set) on a four spade board. I was fishing for reads, decided to call most probably bc villain's line made no sense. And the dealer just took the £2k+ and awarded it to my opponent's turned set of sevens that shoved on my check. So sick. The moral of the tale is know the rules where you're playing!
big punt …. had it been JJQ on flop I can understand Rampage going along calling with kings never putting a jack in Bens hand … but there is an ace … you either reraise him on turn to find out if ur beat with an ace or a jack … if Ben folds you win …. If Ben calls you have your answer n give up on river unless you spike your king … amateur call in my opinion and fish paid for it
I lost 1400 all in had a boat with a set of 9s full of 3s another player had a boat set of jacks full of 3s and the winner had quad 3s The flop came J 3 9 the turn was a 3 the river was something cant remember didnt matter
Snap check on the flop is a huge red flag, from Ben specifically even more so imo. Easy fold on the turn, the fact his bet size targets a range that contains an ace specifically he broadcast he has a J, JA or rockets that wants a big ace to come along. I lost a pot of $1300 ish because my KK got called preflop 4bet for $500 more to call by A4 offsuit and A4 off made a 1 card straight with the 4 and same thing happened to me the guy was mucking his hand and another player interfered and told him he had a straight. I made it all back and then some within 4 or 5 hands from the same guy (obviously lol), I also punished the guy that opened his mouth. lol
The best part of playing low stakes is I’ve never lost any massive pots lol I think I was playing 1/2 and started with $140. Had AK, drilled the King on the flop, the board ran out what seemed cleanly and unfortunately my opponent was on a flush draw and drilled trip deuces on the river and I got stacked. That’s the biggest pot loss for me.
I would have killed in this hand where you had middle set vs KK Rivered straight. If the hand was really in the muck, opponent must shut their mouth about it.
Not the largest but the dumbest was playing 2-5 got it in otr for like 3k with what I thought was the nut flush got snapped and turns out a club and a spade do not equal 5 cards of the same suite. In my defense I was a raging alcoholic then and had been drinking since 10am it was like 3am next day. In regards to this hand the snap check back was super sketch. Then the sloppy turn bet. I mean these guys are good enough for reverse tells but I think this is a situation where the live reads should save some money. Also, from thay I've seen of this dude Ben then he's not gonna have it everytime even with that line.
What is the largest cash game pot that YOU have ever LOST? 📉🤑
27,000 pot in a 5/10 game at Bellagio to a one outer on the river after all-in with Ax flush at the tail end of an epic 30hr session having run up 1k to 10K at 2/5.
8k, flopped a set, villain went runner runner quads
1/3 I lost a 1k pot to someone who hit a straight flush against my nut flush. I had it on the turn, he had it on the river
Hard to say exactly, depending on how you figure it it was either my Jack high SF (first 5) beat on the river by a gutshot Royal in a nose bleed stud game (pre jackpot days) 4 way action to 5th st OR my 7h 8h (flopped SF) in a 20/40 hold-em game, river came Kh. 4 way action capped pre ... (7h 8h, 10-10, JJ, Qh Ks) board paired 9's on the turn. It WAS a jackpot game (jackpot was 60K+ too) but void because Qh Ks couldn't play both cards. Broke the steering wheel on my car in the parking lot of Ft McDowell shortly thereafter.
Unfortunately, it was just yesterday. 5k pot in a 1/3 Texas game vs Maniac. Hero flopped 1st and 3rd pair vs rivered nut flush all in on the turn.
5:20-6:20 Jonathan makes the most pertinent point which could have saved Ethan from punting the way he did. It goes back to the concept of “time bank tells”. Time bank tells are only relatively reliable to an extent when playing bad players which you will typically mostly find at lower stakes. It may be tough being consistently deliberate with the amount of time you take with each decision to avoid giving away any time bank tells to your opponents if you have issues with patience, however I wouldn’t recommend anyone who is naturally impatient to try to make a living grinding at the poker tables. But it’s critical you take around the same amount of time for each decision, whether it’s a tough decision or an easy one where you already know what your next move(s) are/is, so your opponent’s can’t get any tells as to your potential hand strength or range. To instantly check back like that on an A high flop as the 4 bettor pre looks beyond suspicious to any real cash game pro. Ben is a wealthy rec who clearly doesn’t have a great grasp of GTO or most in depth poker strategies or concepts. In my experience, recreational players who instantly check back a great flop for their range IP after 4 betting preflop, it’s nearly ALWAYS a monster hand looking to take a trappy/bluffy line to try to max their value on later streets. Ben is bad enough that he could have been playing a hand like pocket queens or tens face up with the check back, which is why I don’t mind Ethan flatting the big delayed Cbet on the turn. It lets Ben know Ethan really does have something, and at that point, Ben isn’t a good enough player to have many bluffs on the river. I have seen Ben attempt some really bad bluffs in the past on HCL, but it was never in a situation like this where both he and his opponent are playing deep, the pot is very inflated and your opponent clearly has at least a marginal made hand. These are spots where players like Ben just aren’t going to have many, if any bluffs on the river. This, along with the time bank tell Ben gave away on the flop are the reasons calling the river was a straight up punt.
The master of avoiding time bank tells is Chris "Jesus" Ferguson.
Damn rampunt!! I love rampage but that’s a play straight out his beginning stages
Too far too fast. Age old story of how to fail.
Yeah that was bad. Dude checks, which you usually only due with junk or the nuts. Then he raises as if to say "I didn't get you to raise with a check, I need to get some $$$ out of this and I can't wait for your hand to hit".
Forget the Js. The A should be reason enough to just bail.
As a staker, I was disappointed with the river call. Ben's never taking that line unless he has nuts. He may be splashy pre, but he's super tight post. I'd imagine Rampage would be aware of this had he spent some time reviewing prior hand histories on his opponents ahead of this session.
4b j10o is not super tight pre lol
That would require actually working on his game. Rather than just thinking he's good and convincing others. I suggested over a year ago he spend 10k and get coaching from Tommy Angelo. He's coached some of the biggest game players in poker. I dealt million dollar buy in games with players I know were coached by him. How is it Rampage thinks he's "above" these players? Lol
@@SuperSwagSpot he said splashy pre lol
Funny because he didn't have the nuts...
@@Bigfishead59 Ya I start to think he's a RUclipsr first, a performing artist vs a professional poker player. But hey to each their own.
36k pot in a 50/100 game at the Tampa Bay Hard Rock. My suited AK vs opponent's suited A6. Heads up in a 3-bet pot to a flop of A 9 3 rainbow. Opponent who is OOP leads out. I flat. Turn is another A. He checks. I throw out a half-pot sized bet. He thinks for a little while then jams. I snap and immediately table my hand showing him the bad news. River is a 6. GG's. Also, I've been WAITING for your analysis on this hand SO bad!
why shuv?
As soon as the second ace hits the board you gotta be aware that the villian could of filled up with a pocket pair. You just have a set, just saying...
Why flat flop? Villains leading range is weak top pair or draws, as there are no draws he has a middling ace a lot here.
Top pair isn't folding to a single raise. Goal would be to take the betting lead and try and get it in on the turn depending on the SPR
@@SeeLifeBro Trips.
Also, when Ben makes that bet @ 8 minutes where you talk about how he splashes the pot, he also pre loads his river bet by cutting chips off a taller stack and putting them on the smaller stack. Definitely a sign of strength.
People do this all the time in hands... sometimes it's to prevent opponents from betting, which is not what you do when you're strong. It's not a reliable tell
@@davids4063 yeah I’ve seen it both ways. I’ve seen good players try to intimidate weaker players into checking back on the next street by pre-cutting some chips. But I’ve also seen players do it when they have a big hand and they get too excited
Largest pot I ever lost: was playing 200NL online back when 200NL still had as many fish as regs. Me and another reg had gotten our stacks up to about 6x the buy in. Long story short I hit A-high flush on the turn and got it in against a straight flush.
I lost 18K from a guy. Next day I won 32K from the same guy.
Haha. I am a small stakes live 1/2 player. I had something similar. I lost about $450 to a guy. Then a few days later I took a little over $600 from him. Then a week after that I took another $500 from him. He is a reg at my room. I think he hates me. Which I don't want. I'd like to be on good terms with all the regs. And punish all the fish. But it just doesn't seem to happen that way. I usually get sucked out on by the fish and then I punish all the reg's.
Mariano is a solid, high stakes poker player. Rampage is...friends with a solid, high stakes poker player.
Agreed on the time Bank tell. Pretty suspicious. You're likely only beating qq at this point, or a miracle chop if Ben somehow has kk as well. Plus, if you are sitting there as Rampage on the turn, you have to be thinking that you have to live to play another hand. You are facing a $48k bet, plus the near certainty of another monster bet on the river that you are likely lighting on fire if you put it in. So your game theory options are:
1) lose preflop $ of ~$35k
2) lose all bets of most likely 35+48+~90=~$173k or more (far and away the most likely outcome)
3) lose 35+48= $83k if Ben does not fear your turn call and river barrels and you find the fold
4) win $83k if Ben has nothing, fears your turn call, can't find a big river bluff and checks the river
5) win ~$200+k if Ben bluffs all the way with nothing, assuming Ben's river bluff has to be very large to try and induce a fold
Given the teeny tiny range of likely hands you are beating, the suspicious time bank tell of Ben's flop checkback, and properly weighting your game theory options, folding the turn bet with minimal losses is overwhelmingly the best option.
At this point, you should heavily consider if Rampage is in over his head at these stakes and his recent success is more likely just a lengthy heater.
If Ben is loose/aggr and he checks flop after 4 betting while in position... alarms are going off in my head that he crushed it. I'm folding to the A going forward unless I hit my K on the turn.
Very logical answer …. Sometimes your kings are no good … if your hand doesn’t improve you don’t put 160k in the pot …. As disgusting the flop n turn was I would have folded on the turn and play the next hand with 130k still in my stack
Why the hell wouldn't that A in the door be enough to shut down Rampage? I agree the insta-check on the flop and the splash is good information that didn't seem to penetrate.
im just a chat pro, but yea that A on the flop and bein 4 bet preflop...this should of been the easiest lay down ever
Agreed. But I know rampages pain. Sometimes you just get married to a hand and even though you know you're beat you just don't want to let it go.
@@wesch6354 Granted, I don't have his bankroll.....but if I got married to a hand and lost that much, I would probably get divorced at home......lol
I lived in a shared house once. One of the chaps moved out and took my Wok when he left. It was a massive Wok :(
🤣😂🤣😂
Love your breakdowns!
Had the biggest pot of my life yesterday Jonathan 4800 effective with Ad Qh 5-10-25
I make it 75 LAG straddle makes it 225 I call.
Flop comes Ks Js 10c
Straddle makes it 300 I make it 1500 he goes all in
Two boards brick brick brick brick
I scoop 9600 he had set of jacks
You raise 5X on flop with the nuts IP? You got lucky he had a set there because he can easily pitch AK KQ QQ QJ and even J10 at some frequency. I guess if you know he's never folding 2p+ or any draw, it's fine. But you don't need to raise that big in position. You can easily go 950 here 14 on turns and have over 1/2 pot river jam. I guess if you playing a strategy where you wanna get it in on flops and run it twice to minimize variance it's cool. But I don't like the sizing.
You either 5-bet to $110-115k or call and prepare to fold on similar flops. The only hand you beat is QQ. If Ben plays QQ that well just assuming you have KK then he deserves the pot.
10/25£ at Vic. Got it in with qq on K high bord vs a well know pro that was super drunk. He had flushdraw that I put him on and got there on the turn. £11k pot.
Biggest loss I took was $1500 at a 2/5 table. Raised $30 with pocket 9’s preflop. Got one caller and flop came 9-3-2. I bet out $60, he raised to $150, I shoved. He called with pocket 3’s for a “set over set” scenario. River card was a 3, giving him quads. I walked away from the table absolutely stunned. Long drive home filled with many obscenities and questioning my terrible luck😂
Damn bro I completely feel your pain 😭😭😭😭
Well 1st thing. Idk why you'd jam over 1k into a $150 raise. But odds were it was all going in the middle anyway so not a big mistake. 2nd thing. It's just variance. Only thing you can do is keep your chin up and keep grinding. As long as you're playing smart you will make it back. Might not be in 1 session. But over time it will come back.
@@wesch6354 Thanks. Appreciate the feedback. I jammed because his postflop reraise to $150 indicated either having lower sets or overpairs and his likelihood of calling me was high based on what I’d seen him call players on prior to that hand. Having the nuts, I saw no downside to jamming in that spot. The result was just variance, like you said. Compared to what I’ve won over time, this was just a blip on the radar. (But an unforgettable one, nonetheless..lol)
What does Ben out Rampage on in this 4 bet pot after check on flop and check call on turn and check on river?
love all the chatpros commenting they know best with their $200 bankroll. keep grinding those microstakes.
Oh my goodness, the 100,000 hand that Jonathan talks about at the end of the video, in which he was involved, is sick! Your opponent was foolish enough to muck his cards after all the community cards are out, and his neighbor sitting next to him stops him from doing so and forces him to flip it up! And the villain almost mucks it twice! Even if the neighbor saw the cards, the neighbor should have let him muck! If the villain can't read his own hand, and wants to muck, then he doesn't deserve the 100,000 pot! It really shouldn't have been the neighbor's business; especially when the pot was so high.
I'm sure you handled like a pro and didn't scold the neighbor for doing that (as probably 80% of the player population would in that spot), but it sure is tilting to the max.
The snap check back on the flop is so weird! Agreed. Gotta mean something.
And then a splashy big turn bet. Even weirder.
He seemed calm and assured of himself demeanor wise- but is that fake? Who knows..
Good for him for not talking to Rampage.
In the other hand Rampage made a good fold , figured out the guy on his left was trying to talk him into a call. That was obvious
But this hand not so obvious.
Really like your analysis of it.
It wasn't that weird. Pretty obvious he checked so Rampage would raise. When he didn't get the raise, he decided to raise himself. You don't want Rampage checking his way to a river card and catching a hand. And you want to get paid off.
I check with the nuts all the time so I would have sniffed this out. What's weird is that Rampage didn't raise after the check. So it's like he knew Ben might have something, but then he calls his big raise, lol. Not exactly consistent play.
Then again, maybe Rampage checked back because he thought he was best. Either way, Rampage should have raised after the check. At least to get an idea of where he was.
@@YTSparty It's bet then raise. He checked to induce a bet not a raise. But yes, other than your terminology being off, I agree with your take.
if you have AA flop comes AJJ you bet?
@@fmcdomer the irony is, a big bet would look weaker than a small bet or a check, imho - After all, you want them to stick around if you have the nuts, and scare them off if u don't. - I think Rampage fell in love with his cards and just couldn't let them go.
@@YTSparty rampage didn't put him on AA or AJ or Jx
theres another hand where MM has QQ and and blew ben off. here rampage calls
I hated watching him punt this live. He only called preflop, ostensibly to see if an A would come and proceed accordingly. The A comes and he still punted. I think if he was willing to call 40k+ post-flop and 8ok+ on the river...he should have made it 90-120k preflop.
Ben gave away a massive tell with that reaction, he looked around like he had just won the lottery.
Reverse tells exist
well in my games I'm calling turn folding river, but idk i think this is mainly a lesson on why you should 5 bet KK preflop vs any mildly competent opponent and ignore that niggling fear that the 4 bet could be aces 🙃
This is just my opinion--you may not agree with it, but if I picked up KK oop, I would not automatically assume that my opponent is holding AA, even though it is a possibility. And he has less liklihood of holding AK, since I have two Kings in my hand. I'm quite happy with a 70% preflop advantage, and I would have never called the raise in that spot. I would have re-raised or maybe shoved, even if I get a fold or disaster strikes later. Instead of picking up a small pot, if Ben folds to the re-raise or shove, he lost a minor fortune whereas he could have gotten J10 or Ax hands to fold pre-flop. If Ben is crazy and calls an all in or a re-raise preflop, then you got it in with the best of it at a significant advantage and the outcome is irrelevant.
its not about that. Rampage knew he was ahead preflop but he wanted to disguise his hand. If he 5-bet there it would’ve been too obvious what he had. I would probably just call there too depending on the action and my opponent.
@@jasperhalsey8574 I'm re-raising in this spot about 100% of the time. All he was thinking about was extracting more money from most likely a weaker premium or Ax type hands, and even though he was a favorite preflop, a disasterous flop hit. Re-raising preflop defines your opponents hand that you're up against. AA and QQ are probably going to call the re-raise. AA will go all in probably. AK (although improbable that it was dealt to the opponent because Rampunt was holding KK) is probably going to call the re-raise. AQ maybe, AJ downward probably not. That JT would have been thrown into the muck preflop with a re-raise and he would have walked away with a small pot. Consider by just calling a big raise there, OOP I might add, he did NOTHING to determine what his opponent's hand was; he got zero information, and then when the flop hit, he was stuggling immensely to determine whether he was ahead or behind instead of making the decision making process way easier.
His call is a pure bluff catcher.
But…
The snap check on flop and a bet on turn shows strenght.
And the river bet, when Rampage could have easily flopped a trips or even full house, shows even more strenght.
Call on the turn on this board is strong and should lead to showdown on river, if opponent has any pocket pair or even A10 AQ
I wonder if players that are being staked tend to play a lot more loose than if they werent staked?
I wonder if players who wearnt RUclips vloggers could still play high stakes regularly? Its ok if they loose overall at poker as long as they get a paycheck each month from RUclips
Jon what if RP 4 bet before the Flop? Would the guy fold a bad hand J-10 at any price?
Largest pot I ever lost was 1100 when I was taking a shot from 1-3 to 2-5, got it in with bottom set vs top set, just a cooler but it really hurt at the time. On the positive note, the largest pot I ever won was with king nine out of the big blind in a limped pot in 1-3, flopped the second nut straight vs the bottom end of a straight, two 2-pair combos, so they said, and ace queen and king queen, and we were all in by the river and I faded everything. A six way all in and I had everyone covered. Pretty crazy!
Greetings from Serbia.. Big fan :)
He called thinking they would bluff more often considering he is playing above his normal stakes. I like the call
You're probably a donkey as well. Ben 4 bets to $33k pre flop and then checks back post. That's 100% way too strong. Especially in this game. Go watch the entire 6 hour stream.
3500 flop was 367 all same suit. I flopped the ace high flush opponent flopped straight flush. This was heads up in a raised pot.
The biggest pot I lost was around 5k in 2/5 in 4b pot when I had AA and flop was T83r. He went all in over my bet and I snap called. He had AK. JQ run out
About 3k at Caesars Palace in Vegas, way back in 2007, I turned a boat and the other guy caught a better boat on the river.
Ben’s line would scream AA to me with that check on the flop. It’s saying I hit the whole flop so I need you to catch up. If he 4 bet bluffing he’s C betting every time here.
The biggest pot I lost was somewhere between 1k and 1200. I had A5h in mp about $650 in my stack. I bet around 8bb to try and isolate because this game is pretty loose. I get 2 calls. Flop is A65 rainbow with 1 heart. Action on me 1st. One opponent I have pegged as playing with any Ax pretty aggressively. So I bet out $25 expecting a call. 1st opponent folds. Loose crazy opponent raises to $75. 2 things goes through my head at the same time. 1 thing. guy might actually have my 2p beat. 2nd. This guy plays any Ax very aggressively so he probably has a worse A than me. So I flat. I think turn was 7 or 8 I can't remember. It brought in a flush draw but not for hearts. I checked, he bet $100. Now I'm thinking he probably has AK, AQ, AJ, or AT. Maybe some pocket pairs. Possibly hit a set. But I talk myself into making the call because if he is holding Ax which is the most likely hand I have him on I'm probably ahead. Then the river was a K. This is where I'm worried that he sucked out. I lead out for $300. I honestly don't know why. Thinking back I should have just checked. But at the time I was thinking if he's on Ax and doesn't have the K this bet will get him to fold. Instead he jammed over me. At this point I am about 90% sure I'm beat. But I just had to see it because It was only a little over 200 more to see. He didn't want to show until I did. So I finally relented and showed so I would know. I showed my 2 pair. And he showed A6 for a flopped bigger 2 pair.
This is a wrong game for ethan. Too much at stake everyone is drooling for his chips. When everyone is richer than you they will push you out. Ben, nikball got more money behind. While ethan only got 300k limit. Ethan is a very good player but he cant bluff these deep stacks bcuz it would be easy call.
He had $600,000 behind. Honestly the amount behind has nothing to do with it. His skills just aren’t at the level to be playing these stakes.
Ive never played high stakes cash but i played a ton of $500/1000 HU Hyper SNGs.
As far as BBs the biggest pot I ever lost was almost 500BBs....playing 50PLO.....it hurt because it was a grind getting my stack up. Probably 6 hours. AAJ10ds ...3 bet pot pre, he flatted. Flopped the nut straight KcQc10h but it puts a club flush draw out although i have a heart redraw if he has a straight as well. uit that was with the Ace/Jack so redraw to the nuts.
I get it in 60-40 and lose to a river club. He had Ac5c9s9d
T for 10
@@williamwilliams8997 whatever lol. Such a useless comment
After calling a 4-bet and a turn bet, rampage looks a lot like he holds an ace. His opponent would have to worry betting half pot as a bluff that he's simply betting into a bunch of aq, ak, and slow played aa and JJ, which will never fold. Rampage also should have more jx in his range as the 3-bet caller, so this is a dangerous board to lose your mind on with 87s or 99 or kq. If the guy is that aggressive, I suppose you can pay him, but it takes a special kind of guy to snap-check-back the flop with a bluff, planning to represent a flop slow-play later. Many players in 4-bet pots would instead opt to check slowly with their medium strength pairs and gunshots, hoping rampage will allow a free turn. And if they did hold 76s or some such bluff, why not simply bet the flop and turn, as this will get almost any player to release tt-kk.
Doyle Brunson once said the key to no limit hold'em is to put a man to a decision for all his chips.
Ben had just done it with the 4-bet, he's representing aces, the only hand better than Kow-boys.
Rampage can't call and give him a chance to catch.
Rampage can only fold if he believes Ben has aces.
Or he can shove his stack in Ben's face and take the almost 50k pot down.
With regards to this hand itself, we’re way off the reservation in terms of theory-land. Ben should virtually never have JT (or even many Jx) in his 4-bet range.
I don’t think Ben checks a lot on that board unless he has exactly AA/JJ/AJ and maybe some wheel Ax that wants to pot control. The vast majority of the time Ben bets here.
So I think in Rampage’s spot this is a call turn, fold spot. I can understand the call on the river because you do block a logical value hand (AK) pretty heavily, but AK probably doesn’t take this line.
But it’s Ben, he does weird aggro donk stuff and I can understand the call even though it feels bad.
Is it a Scientific Physical Law that if you have KK that an A must come on the flop every time?
It's not the JJ that would worry Rampage, it's the A.
Agreed
Brutal post flop play... and preflop flatting.... bad bad play
Bens done things exactly like this with absolutely nothing.
Hard spot
Not sure about ever 5betting pre, what does a 5betting range even look like? I mean unless they villain is completely out to lunch a call seems somewhat balanced
Did you not watch the stream? It was a really loose game. A 5 bet would have been perfectly fine.
almost 1k BB deep, probabably more like 700 effectively because of the large opens, what this insanity
If I get 4-bet with KK and ace shows up, I just fold and move on to a better spot. Sure, your opponent will have an occasional bluff, but that’s such a small percentage, that you will just end up with a huge net loss in a long run trying to bluff catch them
In hindsight… we’ll it’s easy to say now but seeing how the band went preflop, I feel Rampage made a mistake there, NEVER, would I flat in that position. None the less, we all play differently and so I’m sure he will learn his lesson.
Rampage you’ll learn more now what to do with Kings if there are so many hands that can beat with that board!! With that in mind..you’re still a SUPERSTAR!!💥in my book!! AND the jealous haters will be forever be HATING!! because they’re jealous!!😂😂😂
Well, he wasn't wearing his Luck Box sweatshirt. It is no wonder he didn't win. Brutal hand.
Luckbox ran out.
It’s hilarious that there is 250k in chips casually sitting behind him on the table
Such a shame! But he loses to any A or any J. So im not sure what Rampage thinks he beats here. Overplayed his strong preflop hand.
I see people commenting about how he’s playing above his bankroll which is probably true, but did he not get backed by heaps of people off stake kings to play anyway?
On ur story at end...... I would have lost my mind at someone who did tht
Tournament regs doing their duty of giving the tourney money to the cash regs, the cycle continues
I'm sorry. But that was a bone head call by rampage. If Ben is willing to 4-bet that pot I'm putting him on AK or at worst AQs. AA, KK, QQ or JJ. Then once he bets the turn and river I'm eliminating KK, and QQ from that range. That only leaves hands that KK is losing to. Granted with this read I would have been wrong on the range. But I would have been right enough to save money.
Ive watched Ben play on previous live streams. He is loose/aggressive, but with JJA on the flop and his bet I probably wouldve folded my Kings when he bet the turn. Theres always future hands to play against him to extract money. But its easy when you can see his cards live stream.....
You most likely wouldn't be able to fucking blink with 30k $
i would have 5b there with KK because there is no reason not to. if they had QQ or AK would likely get a call. JTo is an easy fold and wouldnt get bbed
I totally agree with you Jun. Rampunt would have won a small pot, which is better than playing postflop with an unknown hand and a disasterous board, even if you think you can win more by calling.
@@ianforsyth2692 I try to play tricky now and then when I have a big pocket pair.....I tend to lose more often by allowing them to see the flop, and it typically is for a bigger pot because they got in cheap with something that hits 2 pair, a flush or the board pairs to give them a set......argggg.......sometimes it is just better to cash out and take what is already on the table. :)
Rampage belongs at a 1/3 table
What makes you say that? I’m not disagreeing as I’m kind of a beginner, just curious what he did/does to make you say that.
I suppose you would have folded Kings? 😂
He worked his way up from 1-2 to tables you’ll probably never play in your life. Stop hating the dude
You jealous right
His over 1 million in tournament earnings alone would say otherwise..
Who the hell is the guy who pulled the cards from another player’s hands and tables them, especially in a big stakes game?
When you're opponent has 33k in preflop and you have kings there's only 1 play and that is all in. There's no reason to take it to the streets. Take your free 33k and bounce.
Not many 4 bets are holding The Jack
No but an Ace is pretty damn likely. Sooo what's your point?
$85 some dude went runner runner straight to beat my flopped set (all-in on the flop). Haven't played a live hand since then (4 years ago).
He looks like a Jamie gold. Sincerely hope he quit this high stakes game, since he seems like a nice guy. He got lucky in those torney and donking those money at these high stakes cash.
You a hater
He is *way* better than Jamie Gold. And the guys doing the 4-betting here are not “old school” Sammy Farhas who only have AA. JTo is a pretty awful 4-bet bluff too. This guy will go bust doing that.
This stakes is way out of Rampage bankroll.
@@kineahora8736 BRO BEN CAN AFFORD 3BET WITH 72OFF RAMPAGE CANNOT
@@electricfeel9501 YES IT IS
BIGGEST POT I LOST WAS LIKE $800 AT 2-5 THANK GOD AND I LEARNED ALOT FROM THAT HAND ALOT OF TELLS AND EASY FOR ME TO GET AWAY FROM IT..WINNING HAND WAS A KING HIGH FLUSH OVER MY EIGHT HIGH FLUSH
Why are you yelling though?
I love watching rampages content but this is a bad call in my eyes. What do I know? I'm still on the 1-2 table lol
Rampage should have re raise
again....its a 4-bet pot...what are the hand combos you can beat with KKs? just QQs
Yeah slow it down Rampage. Stakes too high. Good job though.
Rampage has a lot of trouble getting away from pairs in general, and especially high pairs. When you listen to his videos, he's always coming up with a rationale for why he thinks his hand is "good most of the time". He admits to preferring a
"high-variance" style of play. That's well and good, provided your bankroll can handle the variance at the stakes you're playing. You have to realize that many rec players (good and bad) have MILLIONS they can afford to piss away at the table. Does Rampage have that kind of long-term bankroll?
What did rampunt put him on
Rampage with an absolute hope and a prayer that Ben is bluffing here (no reason to believe he is on that line)
if it was his own money, he folds like MM
$2500 pot in PLO. Nut flush draw a pair and blockers.
Ramage has 5 WSOP rings!!!
Enough said!!!
£2000 and change. At £1/£2. Bc I exposed my (winning) hand facing a bet at a casino that banned that play. I'd been in the blender for a week with three jacks (set) on a four spade board. I was fishing for reads, decided to call most probably bc villain's line made no sense. And the dealer just took the £2k+ and awarded it to my opponent's turned set of sevens that shoved on my check. So sick. The moral of the tale is know the rules where you're playing!
I lost with bottom set of 7 on a KQ799 board opponent had K9 and I played the hand wrong expensive lesson the pot was close 3 thousand
~£6.5 K in a 2/5 at Hippodrome in London. I had A 10 and villain had a straight draw, he hit his 7 on the river.🤦🏻♂️🤣
He made his mind up that he didn’t have an ace preflop. Only thing that makes sense. And the jack wasn’t in his range 🤷♂️
Lost $500 in a 1/2 game. AA in pre flop 4 ways with kqo, 910dd, 35o. Flop came qq3.
Really should have 5 bet to 150k with intentions to call a shove pre
You just love to see it.
IT WAS AN EASIER FOLD ON THE TURN..RAMPAGE WAS NOT BEATING ALOT HONESTLY
big punt …. had it been JJQ on flop I can understand Rampage going along calling with kings never putting a jack in Bens hand … but there is an ace … you either reraise him on turn to find out if ur beat with an ace or a jack … if Ben folds you win …. If Ben calls you have your answer n give up on river unless you spike your king … amateur call in my opinion and fish paid for it
Huge punt.
I lost 1400 all in had a boat with a set of 9s full of 3s another player had a boat set of jacks full of 3s and the winner had quad 3s The flop came J 3 9 the turn was a 3 the river was something cant remember didnt matter
Checks a 4bet pot with a flop that should hit them. Alarm bells should be going off
Snap check on the flop is a huge red flag, from Ben specifically even more so imo. Easy fold on the turn, the fact his bet size targets a range that contains an ace specifically he broadcast he has a J, JA or rockets that wants a big ace to come along. I lost a pot of $1300 ish because my KK got called preflop 4bet for $500 more to call by A4 offsuit and A4 off made a 1 card straight with the 4 and same thing happened to me the guy was mucking his hand and another player interfered and told him he had a straight. I made it all back and then some within 4 or 5 hands from the same guy (obviously lol), I also punished the guy that opened his mouth. lol
The pot's not big enough?? Re-raise, preflop.
The best part of playing low stakes is I’ve never lost any massive pots lol I think I was playing 1/2 and started with $140. Had AK, drilled the King on the flop, the board ran out what seemed cleanly and unfortunately my opponent was on a flush draw and drilled trip deuces on the river and I got stacked. That’s the biggest pot loss for me.
Is this your second day playing poker?
@@ryanturner3432 is this your first time responding to a comment?
Rampage sold his soul.
I would have killed in this hand where you had middle set vs KK Rivered straight. If the hand was really in the muck, opponent must shut their mouth about it.
Not the largest but the dumbest was playing 2-5 got it in otr for like 3k with what I thought was the nut flush got snapped and turns out a club and a spade do not equal 5 cards of the same suite. In my defense I was a raging alcoholic then and had been drinking since 10am it was like 3am next day.
In regards to this hand the snap check back was super sketch. Then the sloppy turn bet. I mean these guys are good enough for reverse tells but I think this is a situation where the live reads should save some money. Also, from thay I've seen of this dude Ben then he's not gonna have it everytime even with that line.
When an Ace in a 4bet pot would have done the job
I thought Ben played it right
wtf that's the worst play I've ever seen. jto? what a joke.
I would have 5 bet pre flop if Ben had AA he goes all in and you can fold.
You fold KK to a shove pre??? I want a shove pre when I have KK.
At some point you have to include AA in your opponents range.
So either you go all in pre or get put to a decision.
Tye turn call was bad. You beat exactly nothing. He's not checking back that flip with QQ
500€ pot in a 50c/1€ game