That's what I've been saying, we probably would have come to this point eventually but the Tumblr era of cartoons and political correctness has definitely sped it up
@@JeremyB381 Hilariously Ironic Fact: when a culture gaslights an entire user base to scrutinize the ethics/morals of [Insert Thing Here], the entire user base will begin scrutinizing everything, and most of them will realize they're eating garbage.
I don’t know, have you seen Skibidi Toilet? Billions of views on RUclips by kids. It’s complete nonsense. There’s no understandable reason why kids prefer it over mainstream stuff.
Yeah especially with the cartoons and the animation are not only terrible and lasy but also but they also have terrible messages as well. Same with an agenda like putting an LGBT agenda, or a toxic aganeda, or a dangerous message and or trying to push something that is not okay by trying to indoctrinate children. Any show in the 90s eraly 2000s beat any show easily. Them trying to pander these people are pathetic because they don't but the merchandise and instead they destroyed everything and push a horrible message
How stupid do they have to be to make their propaganda so ugly. Genuinely noped out of most of these shows before I had any clue they were pushing a message just cause the art style was irredeemable
Kid's shows IN GENERAL. GOOD and WHOKESOME content like The Big Comfy Couch are now replaced with "RANDOM CHILD PLAYS WITH HOTWHEELSPLAYDOH ROBS BANK WITH FUNNY MONKEY ❗️❓️🤣😡💯💥❤️🤪
As a teacher I’m seeing the younger teachers bewildered about why the kids are so badly behaved. Just today, I got my kids lanyards from NYCC. Some of them were appreciative especially since it’s One Piece but a few just left it on the floor. I had to teach them that even if they don’t like it, say thank you and give it to someone else later. You don’t have to be rude about it.
We used to be told to look for the behaviors people are not complaining about as signs of sexual and emotional abuse. I remember a section labelled “Recognizing the Corrupted Child.”
These kind of parents seem to have zero clue that they need to...ya know...teach their kids anything? I mean it's getting to the point they don't even bother teaching them life skills. I look at my childhood and I was with my parents on all their errands. Through them, I was learning to cook, do laundry, pay bills, shop for groceries, basic home budgeting, how to winterize the house and car, how change a tire and oil, getting a hobby... Then I look at my younger cousins, no more than six years apart from me. They can't boil water among the other things I listed. They also can't drive, because mommy/daddy does everything. Congrats aunty/uncle, you stunted them. They're going to college in two years and they won't know how to function as an adult.
Judging by your spelling and punctuation, let’s hope you’re not the one helping with homework. Edit: This is OBVIOUSLY a joke, and I have no malicious intent towards a random stranger on the internet whose existence I just learned about yesterday. The fact that I have to make this disclaimer is baffling.
You have to be careful with old slop too, especially princess stuff. You have entitled 40 y/o Karen princesses nowadays, all screwed up with disney brainwashing.
Kids don't want to be either the emotional dumpsters of adults who couldn't get over that they didn't get a date for prom, or adults with generational traumas/daddy or mommy issues, or adults with low self-esteem who need constant validation from a kid's show.
Kids (including Bronies) loves “My Little Pony” and “Wild Manes” minus political propaganda. Look what happened to “My Little Pony: Tell Your Tale”, they officially wrapped the series back on Thursday with an undecided series finale called “The Water Park (aka “Slide For Your Lives)” which was great, and a decent way to end the series with a BANG!. Get well soon, Kneon!
The gods of Mount Hollywood are slowly becoming mere mortals and are desperately trying to keep their divinity by begging the Old Ones for salvation, little do they realize that once the Old Ones have their Tendrils in Mount Hollywood they will rebuild the Pantheon.
Didn't they openly admit steven universe and other cartoons were made for them and other calarts students/graduates. If you dont care about your audience, they won't care either
@@mephistopheles4910the trick is to make it for both. Probably the best example of that is cartoons from 1990s Nickelodeon and cartoon network specifically.
@@mephistopheles4910 Isn’t the issue around the fact that studios in their infinite wisdom won’t make any merchandise even for their high performing kids shows, meaning they have zero way to make any money back from their investments? Isn’t that like the entire point around making kids shows to begin with? Their economics make zero sense really even without them targeting older audiences while having the art direction of a kids show as well. The cherry on top is them not promoting their 10-25 million dollar investments depending on on how long their seasons are in any shape or form. The industry’s been like this probably like the mid 2000’s. I seen nothing in stores for the popular franchises of the time for like anything. Besides Ben 10 and Teen Titans. That’s not a sustainable business model.
The last western cartoon I watched in full was Gravity Falls and that series was okay. Although I did miss the older more awesome shows like Swat Kats, Thundercats and others.
@@stefmonterrosa6818 For the most part, largely anime and I have been watching them online for over a decade now. Although I do miss the various Saturday and After School cartoon runs, including Toonami and Kids WB as prime examples.
It's not just because youtube is good, it's because Hollywood is failing. People are no longer going to watch shit. So, if that's all they're offering, they're going to go elsewhere, and youtube has tons and tons of things to watch there. No streaming service can compete against individual people throwing content up. It's just not possible. And once people leave and find things they like watching, their chances of going back isn't likely. So, that's their fault. Their arrogance in thinking the people need them is killing their industry.
Normal kids just want entertainment, they don't have this sad need to support something to make other people feel special. A lot of this stuff is made for emotionally stunted young adults, not preteens or teens. I don't think most people in entertainment are intelligent enough to know the worlds as changed. As Geeky said there were less options in the past, so it was easier for shows to have a decent audience. Now there are so many options it's going to be harder to have things that mass appeal. There are decades worth of entertainment to watch, plus foreign shows and movies are far more accessible today than in the past. People expect shows to have easy mass appeal, and that's not the world we live in today.
Yea I’ve noticed quite a few young men I’ve talked to barely 12 to 18 all agree universally that new shows suck and they talk about older stuff hell I was surprised they new what MASH was.
@halo129830 sounds like my 12 yo nephew! He watches old shows like Get Smart. Since he liked the latter, I introduced him to the old Inspector Gadget series. I was surprised to know it's all free on youtube. I might just rewatch it myself.
Kids want exciting visuals and great story telling. American animated shows have declined in these areas over the years. Indie creators are giving what they want and that's why anime is more popular than ever. Inuyasha, Bleach, Samurai Champloo, Ghost in the Shell and One Piece for example.
I would argue there has been good anime in the last ten years, Reincarnated as a Slime, Solo Leveling, God of Highschool, Dress up Darling, Anya Sometimes Hides her Feelings in Russian, Kaiju no. 8, I Parry Everything…if you a bit more fanservicey and funny you have Fire Force and Eminence in the Shadow.
I'm surprised Oda even allowed the Netflix Adaptation considering how Iron Fisted he is about his Franchise (He even forced them to do the FX over cause he considered the first attempt to fx Luffy's stretching attacks crap setting back production 6 month People are saying Katana(?) Is likewise Iron fisted about her Freiren Franchise and the Magna might be on Hiatus cause she is overseeing Season 2 production
"There are losing their usual audiences because of indie creators". The indie creations in question Skibidi Toilet Amazing Digital Circus Hazbin Hotel Hey ehm, i was born in 1990 (yes, you have permission to call me millennial, no problem) qnd i watch so many animated series with or without innuendo jokes and sometimes even Duckman or Ren and Stimpy. But knowing little kids are watching stuff like Hazbin... It really is depressing and uncomfortable. Specially of mommy and daddy allows them to watch that
Yeah, nobody seems to make middleground content anymore that can appeal to both adults and kids, which I think is a core part of the problem. Everything feels like its either heavily dumbed down for little children or is clearly made for adults contrary to its cartoonish style. Which means there's nothing for parents and their kids to watch together.
I always really respected, for example, the first few seasons of Spongebob because of it's ability to appeal to kids and adults. Very hard to get it right. I think with the way technology has divided the generations culturally, having a kid+adult audience is even harder if not impossible now.
Also to be fair hazbin is marketed to adults. Not kids fault if parents let them watch it. Hell, they make schools rival work environments. Kids might a well bemini adults with all the emotional stunting that comes with it. (This is sarcasm btw) Though if ppl actually cared before we probably wouldn't be at this crossroads already.
To those animators still worried about their future in Hollywood- YT's waiting. But you still gotta produce media folks are willing to watch if you're gonna make it in this field. & Godspeed on Kneon's health getting better yet again. But you're doing a great job Geeky while he's down.
That's the rub right there: produce media folks are willing to watch. The truly deluded ones don't believe in that. They believe you should watch whatever they make because they "worked hard" on it-because they put their heart into it. It's like the participation trophy kids are all grown up and don't or can't understand that hardwork or heart isn't enough if you don't realise your audience is the ones you cater to. They treat their job like a hobby and are surprised their ambivalence doesn't turn a profit.
Noone's eager to put their livelihood into Google's absentee hands. Sad as it is, an animator/showrunner can simultaneously build out a portfolio and get paid a salary working in the industry.
That's because Hollywood animation isn't making cartoons for kids. They're making cartoons for the Tumblr/DeviantART/Twitter crowd and that REALLY needs to stop. Thank goodness that MeTV Toons exists.
They can't even get merch sales out that group because they will buy fanmade merch before ever supporting official channels. It's honestly hilarious. The absolute worst base to cater to.
We don't just want "the good old days of animation" back, the problem is that western animation has become nothing but reboots and GARBAGE made specifically for small children, and we're just not getting anything in the DCAU-level gold standard zone of mature and well-written animation like we used to, and that's all it would take to bring back great animated TV shows and movies, is it really too much to ask?
I've said it to my friends and I'll say it here. Kids care not about agendas or politics. They want funny, cute or cool things, or a combination of those three things which equal fun. Violence is cool, wacky hijinx are funny, big eyes are cute. You can give them any agenda or moral lesson to kids and they'll take it as long as it goes with a fun product. Most of the recent cartoons produced in America have been praised by young adults, and they'll say it's great and empowering to see complex subjects addressed in the most boring shows ever. I'm sorry but shows like Infinity Train, The Owl House and Steven Universe may be popular among a certain crowd, but they pushed kids to watch anime instead.
They are but to a much lesser extent. RUclips itself will censor stuff it doesn't like but it's very rare for a video designed to be suitable for kids to cross that boundary (assuming we're talking about videos like Cocomelon rather than ElsaGate, which is not suitable for kids.)
Kids TV doesn't have to suck. They could always make great shows that stand the test of time, but they actively chose not to. Being for kids doesn't excuse poor quality writing or propaganda disguised as entertainment.
As a fellow teacher (a high school science teacher), I 100% direct students to watch RUclips videos for tutorials. I know if there's something you are confused about for a science or math topic, there are lots of great content out there. I will often supplement my own lectures with short videos from RUclips, because sometimes the different voice and visuals helps stuff suddenly make sense.
@@Xaforn exactly, as an artist myself adapting can be difficult but it’s hard to feel sorry for those who for years have just upright refused to make what the audience ask for.
Even Pixar made a few cg calarts movies It's so sad - I watched 2 RUclips videos that compiled 80's and 90's cartoon intros together and the variety of styles is amazing
Corporation Greed is what ruined Kids TV and Saturday Morning Cartoons. The way how they censored foreign cartoons and the Gov trying to force Messages into kids shows. This is the reason why most kids and informed parents are turning off TV and moving to Indie RUclips Creator Content.
Ever since they hit absolute gold with Adventure Time. CN and Warner Brothers stopped making animated series to kids, instead, they started making animation series to young adults, or to be more blunt; started making animation series for _themselves_ (as alot of the studio newcomers were mostly big fans of that series). They really have no right to act bewildered that, they lost an audience _they stopped catering to._
My daughter watches Bluey, Simple Songs, Hey Bear Sensory, and Pusheen shorts mostly. Avoid Cocomelon and other ones that are just crazy fast animation / cut spam.
Cocomelon had that horrible woke moment with a boy dressed up as a female ballerina who also had gay parents, even Bill Maher had to call it out for what it was. Just awful.
Uncle of 2 Gen Alphas reporting in. They don't care for the newer shows, it's either RUclips, or they prefer to dig into my library of older shows. Just in the past week we've watched Goof Troop, Jackie Chan Adventures, Yugioh (they prefer GX and 5Ds), Darkwing Duck, Xiaolin Showdown, Scooby Doo, SpongeBob, Time Squad, and Pokémon Johto. There's decades of content. They could watch things till they have kids of their own and still find new stuff to watch. The past 15 odd years has been content made for the Hollywood Panderverse, not for what the average person wants to watch. The rot runs deep, and will take another 15 to 20 years to gut out, better get started on it.
I'm nearly 40 and still get chills every time I hear "By the power of Grayskull!" Kinda sad to think a couple of generations don't have a memory like that...
Check this out: I'm Gen X and watch mostly RUclips creators, other than college and pro football and the occasional fight. There's not much on television for me anymore.
Millennial and I don’t watch tv at all, I like anime and foreign animation (cartoon saloon from Ireland or Mano studios from Pakistan etc) or foreign films.
Can confirm this in my own house. My youngest kids (2,4) still like SpongeBob and Bluey but all my other kids (7,9,11, and 15) would all rather watch RUclips
RUclips- free, based off success, works with an idea. Modern TV show - cost subscriptions, based off odd metrics regardless of how popular or more commonly unpopular a show is, works off a previous idea with no connection to the idea... essentially a skin suit. Makes sense why the Indie boom is happening especially since like the old video game turned shows... they have a passion for what they are doing and are also promoting one another. Like Red vs Blue in the early days. A nice boom... and hopefully one that will not turn toxic in its later years.
Additionally, they never cared about the audience, to begin with. They cancelled our favourite shows like Megas XLR, SWAT Kats, Danny Phantom, MotorCity etc. And now, here we are, the damage has been done beyond repair, and there's no point of turning back.
My kids certainly would rather watch their favorite youtubers and OOOOOOLD classics like WWII-era Looney Tunes than just about anything made in the last few years for them. Oh, and Spongebob, lol.
If I had kids, I'd still rather have them watch Bluey than RUclips (except for classic cartoons that you can't see on TV anymore) and especially Tiktok. Children's developing brains can't handle the stress that is integral to social media consumption.
I feel like the other thing that Hollywood tends to forget is that they no longer have a monopoly over the distribution of how the entertainment was delivered. Back in 70s, 80s, 90s and even up until late 20s Hollywood had a complete monopoly on this through Television, radio, and movies. Now with the rise of the internet, social media, and most importantly the maturing of smart phones, these have all spell an end for Hollywood’s domination of the distribution monopoly. There are countless ways for anyone to create, upload, and share the entertainment that they have created. I have seen the majority of these independent creators completely cut out the middleman and upload directly to RUclips.
As an elder Gen Z with a toddler, I only really show her shows I grew up with in the early 2000s, shows like rollie pollie ollie, little bear, and the early seasons of blues clues. My daughter can calm down and play or go to bed after watching that compared to cocomelon. I highly recomend old kids shows to new parents
Same! I’m an older Gen Z (24) I don’t have kids of my own (i don’t wanna have kids) but I do have a nephew who’s a toddler, and my mom has been showing him some older shows I used to watch when I was little, like the Backyardigans. Kids deserve better content, Content with substance, heart, imagination, and just pure fun! **Do Not** Show your kids Cocomelon, **Ever** it is Pure brainrot. It’s over stimulating, no heart or soul, just brainroted Garbage. Heck, at the Studio, they have this room that has a very suspicious name, i forgot what it called but it had Tron at the end of it, it sounded like an evil device, and what it does is it basically has kids held in the room and they show the kids the content, and the more the content can basically put the kids in a trance and make them addicted to it, the better. I saw this in a video essay talking about how horrible Cocomelon is for children. Do. Not. Let. You’re. Kids. Watch. It. Please…we need less brainrot.
As another youtuber I watch put it in one of their vids: kids deserve good writing, too! You can't just write any stupid dumb stuff and expect kids to just love it. Not to mention that, sometimes, you need to appeal to the parents as well as the kids, especially for movies, as it's the parents thatbhave to pay for tockets and drive and schedule and stuff
With indie animation every time new animation video is uploaded it actually feel like a event and it spread the word of the video exists meanwhile with Hollywood thank to streaming they keep pupping out as much animation show like a factory with no time of build up also even when there a actual good animation show it might get cancelled or delisted in the future
1. They shouldn't have gotten rid of broadcast weekdays and Saturday cartoons. On basic television with no cable. To limit toy commercials. 2. They shouldn't have relied so heavy on streaming services 3. They shouldn’t have put a ton of agenda pushing crap out to kids instead of letting them just be kids. And put out content for kids… TO SELL TOYS 😂 But hey, they got what they deserved
1. If you mean syndication and that e/i crap? That’s the American government’s fault. It’s why the cable animated channels became so popular while their network counterparts either became shells of themselves or cancelled. 2. Agreed. Most of the studios don’t really need a service. I bet most will go under and fold into either Netflix, Amazon or Disney. 3. Also agreed. Though I’m seeing the conservative equivalent with things like the New Norm or that show about the woodshop guy, which sounds so lame as the liberal version. I still laugh whenever there’s this lack of self awareness about shows from left leaning creators being all preachy, though. On the toy front? There’s haven’t been consistent toys for anything since maybe 2005-07. Really feels like things coming to roost. 4. I’ll add the point about how every cartoon has this incessant need to be ‘meta’. They can’t just be earnest or have heart, they have to from time to time have the characters written to speak self referentially and blurt out what they want the audience to feel instead of integrating it in the story itself. 5. Redeeming monstrous villains. For people who decry fascism, plenty shows have the same plot beat where they have to handwave a villain’s abusive behavior and awful actions for arbitrary reasons. Comically to the absurd extreme with Steven Universe and Korra. There’s also an undercurrent of bootlicking wealthy antagonists or giving them lackluster punishments no matter how awful they are. I dropped Netflix Castlevania because of it being anti religious (as if teenagers who just discovered atheism are writing it) while being poorly thought out and not fun to watch. That and the creators seem to have this fetish with their major raceswapped black characters all being slaves and focusing on that fact. Unable to work with the fantasy alternate universe they created that was infinitely more tolerant than the real world at the time. And not having Annette being Isaac’s descendant. I’m not the biggest advocate for organized religion, however? None of the points in either show seem that deep and given how rich the subject matter and time period they’ve had to work with, especially the Balkans and Eastern Europe in the 15th century? Or the French Revolution? It’s a joke. Especially compared to Blue Eye Samurai, where they cared enough to use the time period to its greatest advantage.
The problem with current day animation is that they made cartoons that are not focused on the kids' entertainment but towards older audiences aka animation fans who are in their late teens, their twenties and so on. Back in the 80, 90, and early 2000, there was a balance on animation that was entertaining towards anyone. But now, as those fans who grow up with they hate the idea of having animation made solely to be big commercial.
When your voice is gone but you need to record Who do you call? GHOST KNEON! Geeky sparkles good, But we want you know who Who do we call? GHOST KNEON!
I may be about 40 now, but when RUclips started, I already found TV obsolete. Compared to most, I did not watch that much TV to begin with. But now I have hours of RUclips running in the background as I work. It has everything I want when I want it, and it don't cost me a fortune to have.
17:30 Yeah, and some of that "quality content" tends to be content farms that contain things that really shouldn't be for kids. They even sometimes use currently popular IPs like Inside Out 2 or The Amazing Digital Circus. TADC is the most troubling one because it's not meant for kids. Yet it hasn't stopped people like Lanky Box from making reaction videos to it. In the most recent episode there's a scene where one of the characters says the word "hell" multiple times. Lanky Box had to cut that entire scene out of the reaction video. He really shouldn't be doing reaction videos to the show if he has to cut out an entire scene because something that isn't meant for kids gets brought up.
We live in a era where cartoon ether getting cancelled for dumb reasons or delisted forever over a tax write off dispite a lot of people put time and effort to it all the while youtuber animation is rising because unless they break youtubers rules there no problem and there reuploding channel in case something happened to the original video
When the studios decided to get rid of Saturday Morning Cartoons, after school cartoons, and not connecting the animated series with toylines, that's when they began losing the kids. The kids are still out there and they are seeking out animated series but they have to go elsewhere now and it might not be exactly where the studios want, the studios had the kids attention throughout the 80s and 90s (I know because I was one of them) and then they screwed it up.
There was a time from the mid 90s-to the 2010s when you could turn on your TV and Have over a dozen High quality cartoons on at anytime. New ones would replace older ones which could still be found on repeat and you could see if CN or Nicktoons or Disney was showing your favorite...Now I'm not even sure if their is a single decent cartoon on any kids channel that's isn't a repeat of Zombie series(SpongeBob, Fairy Odd Parents, TTgo) Maybe Bluey? Or did they rid of that for some Woke Remake of an beloved property...In the end Modern kids don't have a fraction of the Quality we took for granted
@erenjeager9442 how did Kids TV died in 2014 from Vortexx and Qubo 2021? I don't know if Japanese anime is striving or not since BlackRock and Crunchyroll ruined Japanese anime/manga
@noahalcantar2431 First of all, blackrock is a financial company and doesn't own anime, they only own companies with large profits. Also, crunchyroll licensed anime, they dont own it, only japanese companies do own anime.
@@erenjeager9442Look what happened with Nintendo since Nintendo ended up getting infected with wokeness with Pokemon, Splatoon, Animal crossing, and Paper Mario TTYD remake due to gender politics
There is one major downside to switching to sites like RUclips: clickbait rules there (and in RUclips Kids, clickbait's dominance is unshakeable). There is an extremely simple formula for getting children to click on and thus ratify a video, and it isn't to produce quality content. Go short-form, copy enough of somebody else's work to cause the algorithms to promote yours alongside the original, go with the weird, suggestive and gross because kids love to check all of that out, increase colour saturation and shorten the length of time between camera cuts to key into ways a developing brain can be trained into focusing on what you're showing it over anything else in the child's world... it's true that Hollywood isn't able to aim high enough to recapture their market, but they also aren't the ones aiming the lowest.
HOW TF CAN Disney not figure out U2b... just throw 500k at 50 different shows , and keep the ones that blow up. And hire from known top creators.. Its so easy if you have money
mr rogers neighbourhood , mr dressup , bluey, the friendly giant were great shows that appealed to kids. they were gentle fun . you have nothing like that anymore
Even if cable TV suddenly had the greatest shows of all time, it wouldn't fix the issue. Kids are definitely gonna choose youtube or pirating content to watch whatever they want.
The only reason why so many states still have cable is because in many cities and towns the internet still sucks, many people do not have access to unlimited internet, most are still bound to 100mbs or below and cannot stream without big penalties if they go over a certain limit imposed by these services. We also have a problem with all these companies producing media based on the input for a few loud mouth online groups who are in a very small echo chamber, the majority of society is not made up of these woke, social drones and companies keep thinking this is the entire of society and that is why they are failing.
Kneon, keep a cat purring to your side. The Purring has many beneficial effects on healing and recovering, and you could open your OF-like selling pictures of you and the cat sleeping together..
Unfortunately, indie animation is going to be screwed over by RUclips in the long term. It’s all going to depend on if they are willing to go the extra mile and then some for the fans. Video platform decentralization needs to be a thing lest the censors win. There’s no room for complacency.
It's because indie creators can provide far better and more engaging storytelling than anything that Hollywood's been able to do for the past few years now. And it's not just indie animators that are able to do this, but indie game developers are capable of providing better experiences than AAA titles as well because the industry (both game industry and cartoon industry, and just most of the entertainment industry in general) is too cowardly to tell a compelling, deep story that kids can understand. For example, Glitch Productions, here on RUclips, is by far my favorite indie entertainment cartoon company. Not only because their shows look gorgeous and the music is good and whatnot, but because their shows are good in general and the stories tied to those shows are thought-provoking, and that's what people care about. Not all the time, because there are cartoons and other forms of media and entertainment that are just purely silly and wacky, and that works, too. But as long as whatever they're putting out is ACTUALLY GOOD... that's all that people want. Kids deserve better than whatever Hollywood is giving out to them these days.
@BrianGeller Same, honestly. I watched Murder Drones up until Episode 6 with some friends of mine on Discord (Episode 6 was still considered the newest episode at that point), and I loved it. Watched Episode 7 and 8 with them, too, and I honestly can't remember a time I liked a cartoon show as much as I loved Murder Drones. It's such a good show because it leaves details that you, as the viewer, have to pick up on and use your brain to put the puzzle pieces together. *Spoilers below for the series for those who haven't watched it yet* For a simple example, the fact that Uzi got the Absolute Solver from using N's saliva to heal her stab wound from N's tail in the very first episode is clever. For a more detailed and complex example, there's the fact that JCJenson is a front or became a front for Cyn/The Absolute Solver for creating Disassembly Drones after the Elliott family was massacred, Earth was destroyed, and all humans were wiped out. It's little details like that, along with its other various forms of foreshadowing that I love about the series.
It’s insane how a series with only 3 episodes at the moment got more popular in less than a year by some guys who make funny Mario Gmod animations than most Movies
What turns me off with American Animation is the art style because the Art style in the 80’s ,90,and early early 21 century the art style was good then the art style went to crap
These companies biggest mistake is pretending that these shows are for today's kids. shows today are being made for audiences that were kids in the late 90s and 2000s. Todays kids shows are literally filled with references from things from the 90s and 2000s. Kids will never understand these references and thats why they get canceled because these shows are being watched by the audience that were kids 20 years ago. the owl house had so many reference from old shows I wasn't even surprised it didn't gather enough kids audience and was being watch by people in college.
Please make a short of 'Faox Kneon'. I had a good laugh at that. XD And we really surprised? Kids' TV is dead in the states because people refuse to give them what they both want and NEED. People pointed out how 'role model' characters have been made horribly and that kids didn't want them. Girls don't want mean, mannish looking 'strong girl bosses' that yell at everything and hate things. Boys don't want weak, simpering boy characters. This ain't hard to figure out.
Honestly that a good thing. If Hollywood wasn’t treating animation like trash this wouldn’t never happen. Nickelodeon is a prime example since 2010 how not to run a platform. Animation is obviously not welcome in HW so just let it go. They prove they don’t want it now they’re mad people are making better stuff on they’re own because we don’t need they’re dumb contracts and impossible standard for chum changing show how much we advance.
Years of producing trash has that effect
That's what I've been saying, we probably would have come to this point eventually but the Tumblr era of cartoons and political correctness has definitely sped it up
Learn the consequences
@@JeremyB381 Hilariously Ironic Fact: when a culture gaslights an entire user base to scrutinize the ethics/morals of [Insert Thing Here], the entire user base will begin scrutinizing everything, and most of them will realize they're eating garbage.
That guardians of the galaxy tv show was the most cheap looking action cartoon I’ve ever seen it made Star Wars rebels look good
I don’t know, have you seen Skibidi Toilet? Billions of views on RUclips by kids. It’s complete nonsense. There’s no understandable reason why kids prefer it over mainstream stuff.
It's hard NOT to lose them.
Most modern cartoons aimed at kids are either ugly, have an agenda at play, are just crap, or ALL THREE.
Yeah especially with the cartoons and the animation are not only terrible and lasy but also but they also have terrible messages as well. Same with an agenda like putting an LGBT agenda, or a toxic aganeda, or a dangerous message and or trying to push something that is not okay by trying to indoctrinate children. Any show in the 90s eraly 2000s beat any show easily. Them trying to pander these people are pathetic because they don't but the merchandise and instead they destroyed everything and push a horrible message
How stupid do they have to be to make their propaganda so ugly. Genuinely noped out of most of these shows before I had any clue they were pushing a message just cause the art style was irredeemable
@@turntoyoua lot of them trick you with an interesting story line then the agenda comes in
@@turntoyou did you ever watch
Adventure time, regular show amazing world of gumball or gravity falls?
Kid's shows IN GENERAL. GOOD and WHOKESOME content like The Big Comfy Couch are now replaced with "RANDOM CHILD PLAYS WITH HOTWHEELSPLAYDOH ROBS BANK WITH FUNNY MONKEY ❗️❓️🤣😡💯💥❤️🤪
I actually thought that first “Hey” was Kneon with a cold for a moment.
Kneon can’t talk about it.
Probably Squid King. 👑
ME too I thought, man, he sounds terrible!
I was thinking it was squid king
As a teacher I’m seeing the younger teachers bewildered about why the kids are so badly behaved. Just today, I got my kids lanyards from NYCC. Some of them were appreciative especially since it’s One Piece but a few just left it on the floor. I had to teach them that even if they don’t like it, say thank you and give it to someone else later. You don’t have to be rude about it.
Teachers have been catching hell on the r/Teachers board from Reddit. 😭😭🤣🤣
We used to be told to look for the behaviors people are not complaining about as signs of sexual and emotional abuse. I remember a section labelled “Recognizing the Corrupted Child.”
These kind of parents seem to have zero clue that they need to...ya know...teach their kids anything? I mean it's getting to the point they don't even bother teaching them life skills. I look at my childhood and I was with my parents on all their errands. Through them, I was learning to cook, do laundry, pay bills, shop for groceries, basic home budgeting, how to winterize the house and car, how change a tire and oil, getting a hobby...
Then I look at my younger cousins, no more than six years apart from me. They can't boil water among the other things I listed. They also can't drive, because mommy/daddy does everything. Congrats aunty/uncle, you stunted them. They're going to college in two years and they won't know how to function as an adult.
If Hollywood didn’t made terrible movies and shows They wouldn’t have this problem to begin with.
Hollywood destroys the good stuff, though...like I'm still sour over Disney cancelling Moon Girl
@@SilverScribe85I’m kind of sour over that Disney movie about the boy and the girl giant that got canceled.
They also should stop cancelling shows that have an audience
@@kish45yep! Which is really sad because that show is really good!
@@jonelrobinson7432 I was actually referring to Gigantic. (Had to look up on what the name was.)
Geeky's impression of Kneon is deeper than Kneon's actual voice.
It sounds like her generic impression of Ash Katchum
😂
That was Pretty Funny😅
Oh, I thought it was their son.
Kids want that 80's quality of television. Not necessarily the shows or that type of animation. But that 80's and 90's LOVE.
Netflix just revived a show from that time period, Ranma 1/2.
@kipolem53
If you do your homework, you can easily guess why. And they likely destroy it completely, pandering to the “modern audience”
@@kipolem53a subpar remake if I say so myself, thanks netflix.
@@kipolem53oh god Ranma in current years going to be a powder keg
@@GorudenMidasDoes it still have partial nudity and sexual humor like the old show?
Im 27 and i said years ago if i had kids theyre not watching this new slop...
Judging by your spelling and punctuation, let’s hope you’re not the one helping with homework.
Edit: This is OBVIOUSLY a joke, and I have no malicious intent towards a random stranger on the internet whose existence I just learned about yesterday. The fact that I have to make this disclaimer is baffling.
Same if I had kids I would even let them go near that brain rot on youtube either.
@@dmittleman9757 lets hope he raises his kids to have more decency than you.
You have to be careful with old slop too, especially princess stuff. You have entitled 40 y/o Karen princesses nowadays, all screwed up with disney brainwashing.
@@raketensven3127 they turned into manipulative witches. They never learned the lessons from Sailor Moon.
Kids Wants Joy And Action Not Politicial propaganda
Pretty much yeah. Kids do not seem to even care about politics until high school usually in 12th grade if not later.
@yumri4 For me it was middle school, but I was an oddball 😅 (well, still am)
Kids don't want to be either the emotional dumpsters of adults who couldn't get over that they didn't get a date for prom, or adults with generational traumas/daddy or mommy issues, or adults with low self-esteem who need constant validation from a kid's show.
The very first "hay" wasn't terrible I kinda live u two
Kids (including Bronies) loves “My Little Pony” and “Wild Manes” minus political propaganda. Look what happened to “My Little Pony: Tell Your Tale”, they officially wrapped the series back on Thursday with an undecided series finale called “The Water Park (aka “Slide For Your Lives)” which was great, and a decent way to end the series with a BANG!.
Get well soon, Kneon!
The gods of Mount Hollywood are slowly becoming mere mortals and are desperately trying to keep their divinity by begging the Old Ones for salvation, little do they realize that once the Old Ones have their Tendrils in Mount Hollywood they will rebuild the Pantheon.
Clean as brand new I like that
you mean jews
Kratos wants to know your location:
That's one hell of a way to put it
Their hubris was in thinking they were gods.
Didn't they openly admit steven universe and other cartoons were made for them and other calarts students/graduates. If you dont care about your audience, they won't care either
Yeah I agree with this sentiment. If you have show makers who are making kid shows aimed at adults, then of course they will lose kids.
@@mephistopheles4910the trick is to make it for both. Probably the best example of that is cartoons from 1990s Nickelodeon and cartoon network specifically.
@@mephistopheles4910
Isn’t the issue around the fact that studios in their infinite wisdom won’t make any merchandise even for their high performing kids shows, meaning they have zero way to make any money back from their investments?
Isn’t that like the entire point around making kids shows to begin with?
Their economics make zero sense really even without them targeting older audiences while having the art direction of a kids show as well.
The cherry on top is them not promoting their 10-25 million dollar investments depending on on how long their seasons are in any shape or form.
The industry’s been like this probably like the mid 2000’s. I seen nothing in stores for the popular franchises of the time for like anything. Besides Ben 10 and Teen Titans.
That’s not a sustainable business model.
As an animation fan, I haven't seen a cartoon I enjoyed since Regular Show. I mostly watch old stuff nowadays.
@coffeelover7687 Same! I can't stand the awful artsyles of nowadays. I really love the Disney and Don Bluth animations.
The last western cartoon I watched in full was Gravity Falls and that series was okay. Although I did miss the older more awesome shows like Swat Kats, Thundercats and others.
@goufr3540 oh I was not a fan of that one. What animations do you watch?
@@stefmonterrosa6818how come you didn't like gravity falls
@@stefmonterrosa6818 For the most part, largely anime and I have been watching them online for over a decade now. Although I do miss the various Saturday and After School cartoon runs, including Toonami and Kids WB as prime examples.
Its nice of Kneon to say those kind words at the beginning even though he's sick.
Get well soon!
It's not just because youtube is good, it's because Hollywood is failing. People are no longer going to watch shit. So, if that's all they're offering, they're going to go elsewhere, and youtube has tons and tons of things to watch there. No streaming service can compete against individual people throwing content up. It's just not possible. And once people leave and find things they like watching, their chances of going back isn't likely. So, that's their fault. Their arrogance in thinking the people need them is killing their industry.
Normal kids just want entertainment, they don't have this sad need to support something to make other people feel special. A lot of this stuff is made for emotionally stunted young adults, not preteens or teens.
I don't think most people in entertainment are intelligent enough to know the worlds as changed. As Geeky said there were less options in the past, so it was easier for shows to have a decent audience. Now there are so many options it's going to be harder to have things that mass appeal. There are decades worth of entertainment to watch, plus foreign shows and movies are far more accessible today than in the past.
People expect shows to have easy mass appeal, and that's not the world we live in today.
Yea I’ve noticed quite a few young men I’ve talked to barely 12 to 18 all agree universally that new shows suck and they talk about older stuff hell I was surprised they new what MASH was.
@halo129830 my parents watch MeTv. That's how I know about some of the old shows like mash and the rifleman.
@halo129830 sounds like my 12 yo nephew! He watches old shows like Get Smart. Since he liked the latter, I introduced him to the old Inspector Gadget series. I was surprised to know it's all free on youtube. I might just rewatch it myself.
Kids want exciting visuals and great story telling. American animated shows have declined in these areas over the years. Indie creators are giving what they want and that's why anime is more popular than ever. Inuyasha, Bleach, Samurai Champloo, Ghost in the Shell and One Piece for example.
Its also another reason why ppl don't want a Live Action adaptation of every single animated work (Don't fix what not fucking broken.)
Indie content is probably the only type of content people in the West want to see
@@mr.melancholy4973 Anime is not in a good place currently, case in point even your own list lacks any anime from the last 10 years.
I would argue there has been good anime in the last ten years, Reincarnated as a Slime, Solo Leveling, God of Highschool, Dress up Darling, Anya Sometimes Hides her Feelings in Russian, Kaiju no. 8, I Parry Everything…if you a bit more fanservicey and funny you have Fire Force and Eminence in the Shadow.
I'm surprised Oda even allowed the Netflix Adaptation considering how Iron Fisted he is about his Franchise (He even forced them to do the FX over cause he considered the first attempt to fx Luffy's stretching attacks crap setting back production 6 month
People are saying Katana(?) Is likewise Iron fisted about her Freiren Franchise and the Magna might be on Hiatus cause she is overseeing Season 2 production
"There are losing their usual audiences because of indie creators".
The indie creations in question
Skibidi Toilet
Amazing Digital Circus
Hazbin Hotel
Hey ehm, i was born in 1990 (yes, you have permission to call me millennial, no problem) qnd i watch so many animated series with or without innuendo jokes and sometimes even Duckman or Ren and Stimpy.
But knowing little kids are watching stuff like Hazbin...
It really is depressing and uncomfortable. Specially of mommy and daddy allows them to watch that
Yeah, nobody seems to make middleground content anymore that can appeal to both adults and kids, which I think is a core part of the problem. Everything feels like its either heavily dumbed down for little children or is clearly made for adults contrary to its cartoonish style. Which means there's nothing for parents and their kids to watch together.
I always really respected, for example, the first few seasons of Spongebob because of it's ability to appeal to kids and adults. Very hard to get it right. I think with the way technology has divided the generations culturally, having a kid+adult audience is even harder if not impossible now.
Also to be fair hazbin is marketed to adults. Not kids fault if parents let them watch it.
Hell, they make schools rival work environments. Kids might a well bemini adults with all the emotional stunting that comes with it. (This is sarcasm btw)
Though if ppl actually cared before we probably wouldn't be at this crossroads already.
To those animators still worried about their future in Hollywood- YT's waiting. But you still gotta produce media folks are willing to watch if you're gonna make it in this field.
& Godspeed on Kneon's health getting better yet again. But you're doing a great job Geeky while he's down.
That's the rub right there: produce media folks are willing to watch.
The truly deluded ones don't believe in that. They believe you should watch whatever they make because they "worked hard" on it-because they put their heart into it. It's like the participation trophy kids are all grown up and don't or can't understand that hardwork or heart isn't enough if you don't realise your audience is the ones you cater to. They treat their job like a hobby and are surprised their ambivalence doesn't turn a profit.
Noone's eager to put their livelihood into Google's absentee hands. Sad as it is, an animator/showrunner can simultaneously build out a portfolio and get paid a salary working in the industry.
That's because Hollywood animation isn't making cartoons for kids. They're making cartoons for the Tumblr/DeviantART/Twitter crowd and that REALLY needs to stop. Thank goodness that MeTV Toons exists.
You nailed it. If they made better/universally liked content and stories. it wouldn’t matter what platform it’s on, people would watch it.
Isn't Digital Circus also popular with Tumblr, DeviantArt and twitter? What's the difference?
They can't even get merch sales out that group because they will buy fanmade merch before ever supporting official channels. It's honestly hilarious. The absolute worst base to cater to.
@@sianaisyou talking about Steven Universe or Digital Circus?
MeTV toons is great
We don't just want "the good old days of animation" back, the problem is that western animation has become nothing but reboots and GARBAGE made specifically for small children, and we're just not getting anything in the DCAU-level gold standard zone of mature and well-written animation like we used to, and that's all it would take to bring back great animated TV shows and movies, is it really too much to ask?
I've said it to my friends and I'll say it here. Kids care not about agendas or politics. They want funny, cute or cool things, or a combination of those three things which equal fun. Violence is cool, wacky hijinx are funny, big eyes are cute. You can give them any agenda or moral lesson to kids and they'll take it as long as it goes with a fun product. Most of the recent cartoons produced in America have been praised by young adults, and they'll say it's great and empowering to see complex subjects addressed in the most boring shows ever. I'm sorry but shows like Infinity Train, The Owl House and Steven Universe may be popular among a certain crowd, but they pushed kids to watch anime instead.
Indie stuff aren’t shackled by someone in a suit telling them what they can do there only limited by is money and skill
They are but to a much lesser extent. RUclips itself will censor stuff it doesn't like but it's very rare for a video designed to be suitable for kids to cross that boundary (assuming we're talking about videos like Cocomelon rather than ElsaGate, which is not suitable for kids.)
Indie animation studios had more creative freedom and they are Independent. They just have to be careful when they partner with a major company
0:12 Ok, that had me chuckling.
Pretty much the opposite of Adam Blaustein where he calls himself a woman and voices as male characters.
Ghost kneon!
That intro was fantastic 🤣🤣🤣
Good to hear Kneon again :D
The old clasics from the 40's and 50's up through the 70's and into the 80,s are far better than any of the stuff that has been made since then.
I thought I'd never say this in a million years but i miss leave it to beaver 🤣
Kids TV doesn't have to suck. They could always make great shows that stand the test of time, but they actively chose not to. Being for kids doesn't excuse poor quality writing or propaganda disguised as entertainment.
The powers that be are very pissed they couldn't social engineer you or your kids.
They gave it the ol' college try!
They are still trying but the kung flue really ruined their secrecy.
Eh, TikTok brainrot will make the next general compliant enough, unfortunately.
As a fellow teacher (a high school science teacher), I 100% direct students to watch RUclips videos for tutorials. I know if there's something you are confused about for a science or math topic, there are lots of great content out there. I will often supplement my own lectures with short videos from RUclips, because sometimes the different voice and visuals helps stuff suddenly make sense.
they lost the kids to anime years ago. everyone kept making the same cal arts stuff.
And thanks to light novels being translated finally, kids are reading their fav anime in real traditional novel format not just a manga
@@Xaforn exactly, as an artist myself adapting can be difficult but it’s hard to feel sorry for those who for years have just upright refused to make what the audience ask for.
Even Pixar made a few cg calarts movies
It's so sad - I watched 2 RUclips videos that compiled 80's and 90's cartoon intros together and the variety of styles is amazing
@@JL-zw3tj I mean some ppl like Cal Arts cool for them but i don’t want it to be the only thing being made. where’s the artistic diversity.
TRUTH.
That wasn't the real Neon? Geeky worlds greatest voice artist.
If cartoons would stop putting in propaganda and focus on entertainment and selling toys animation would be doing a hell of a lot better.
Corporation Greed is what ruined Kids TV and Saturday Morning Cartoons.
The way how they censored foreign cartoons and the Gov trying to force Messages into kids shows.
This is the reason why most kids and informed parents are turning off TV and moving to Indie RUclips Creator Content.
Kidz are on RUclips and Tik Tok
The "Modern Audience", all 3800 of them(not counting alt accounts and bot deployments), are terminally on Twitter
If cocomelon is your biggest competitor, you lost a long time ago.
Cocomelon is intentionally designed to be addictive to developing children.
Ever since they hit absolute gold with Adventure Time. CN and Warner Brothers stopped making animated series to kids, instead, they started making animation series to young adults, or to be more blunt; started making animation series for _themselves_ (as alot of the studio newcomers were mostly big fans of that series). They really have no right to act bewildered that, they lost an audience _they stopped catering to._
It's true. My kids generally go to RUclips for entertainment over Disney.
I go to RUclips to escape the crap on the networks.
@Launchpad05 yeah, me too.
Neon sounds better than ever
My daughter watches Bluey, Simple Songs, Hey Bear Sensory, and Pusheen shorts mostly. Avoid Cocomelon and other ones that are just crazy fast animation / cut spam.
Cocomelon had that horrible woke moment with a boy dressed up as a female ballerina who also had gay parents, even Bill Maher had to call it out for what it was. Just awful.
I love Pusheen! But yeah avoid cocomelon like the plague
And millennial parents should face major backlash for giving kids an iPad with bad stuff like Cocomelon
Hey Bear sensory mentioned
They did it to themselves.
Uncle of 2 Gen Alphas reporting in.
They don't care for the newer shows, it's either RUclips, or they prefer to dig into my library of older shows.
Just in the past week we've watched Goof Troop, Jackie Chan Adventures, Yugioh (they prefer GX and 5Ds), Darkwing Duck, Xiaolin Showdown, Scooby Doo, SpongeBob, Time Squad, and Pokémon Johto.
There's decades of content. They could watch things till they have kids of their own and still find new stuff to watch. The past 15 odd years has been content made for the Hollywood Panderverse, not for what the average person wants to watch. The rot runs deep, and will take another 15 to 20 years to gut out, better get started on it.
Hazbin is just more 'tumblr writing' - however It's nice to see other indies getting success.
I'm very thankful to have grown up in a era where cartoons we're worth watching.
I'm nearly 40 and still get chills every time I hear "By the power of Grayskull!" Kinda sad to think a couple of generations don't have a memory like that...
I imagine Geeky sitting with a volleyball on a stick, with a picture of Kneon taped to it.
Check this out: I'm Gen X and watch mostly RUclips creators, other than college and pro football and the occasional fight. There's not much on television for me anymore.
Also Gen X and amen to that.
Same. I'll watch MST3K on PlutoTV for free.
Millennial and I don’t watch tv at all, I like anime and foreign animation (cartoon saloon from Ireland or Mano studios from Pakistan etc) or foreign films.
Ditto
Yep. Early millennial and the only thing I watch on TV is sports and Always Sunny.
Can confirm this in my own house. My youngest kids (2,4) still like SpongeBob and Bluey but all my other kids (7,9,11, and 15) would all rather watch RUclips
My younger siblings 10-14 rather watch RUclips over Disney or other productions. My sister just beginning watching My hero academia.
RUclips- free, based off success, works with an idea.
Modern TV show - cost subscriptions, based off odd metrics regardless of how popular or more commonly unpopular a show is, works off a previous idea with no connection to the idea... essentially a skin suit.
Makes sense why the Indie boom is happening especially since like the old video game turned shows... they have a passion for what they are doing and are also promoting one another.
Like Red vs Blue in the early days.
A nice boom... and hopefully one that will not turn toxic in its later years.
Additionally, they never cared about the audience, to begin with. They cancelled our favourite shows like Megas XLR, SWAT Kats, Danny Phantom, MotorCity etc. And now, here we are, the damage has been done beyond repair, and there's no point of turning back.
🤣😂 At first I thought it was Kneon sounding terrible, but as it kept going I realized it was Geeky. Well done, Geeky!
My kids certainly would rather watch their favorite youtubers and OOOOOOLD classics like WWII-era Looney Tunes than just about anything made in the last few years for them. Oh, and Spongebob, lol.
Glad Kneon finally acknowledged everything Geeky does for him.
If I had kids, I'd still rather have them watch Bluey than RUclips (except for classic cartoons that you can't see on TV anymore) and especially Tiktok. Children's developing brains can't handle the stress that is integral to social media consumption.
I feel like the other thing that Hollywood tends to forget is that they no longer have a monopoly over the distribution of how the entertainment was delivered. Back in 70s, 80s, 90s and even up until late 20s Hollywood had a complete monopoly on this through Television, radio, and movies. Now with the rise of the internet, social media, and most importantly the maturing of smart phones, these have all spell an end for Hollywood’s domination of the distribution monopoly. There are countless ways for anyone to create, upload, and share the entertainment that they have created. I have seen the majority of these independent creators completely cut out the middleman and upload directly to RUclips.
Further more the majority of these indie creators are able to create something with very little production costs.
As an elder Gen Z with a toddler, I only really show her shows I grew up with in the early 2000s, shows like rollie pollie ollie, little bear, and the early seasons of blues clues. My daughter can calm down and play or go to bed after watching that compared to cocomelon. I highly recomend old kids shows to new parents
Honestly, I feel like Bluey is the closest thing to Early 00s children's t.v. made in a modern world.
And I say this as an elder Gen. Z myself.
Same! I’m an older Gen Z (24) I don’t have kids of my own (i don’t wanna have kids) but I do have a nephew who’s a toddler, and my mom has been showing him some older shows I used to watch when I was little, like the Backyardigans.
Kids deserve better content, Content with substance, heart, imagination, and just pure fun! **Do Not** Show your kids Cocomelon, **Ever** it is Pure brainrot. It’s over stimulating, no heart or soul, just brainroted Garbage. Heck, at the Studio, they have this room that has a very suspicious name, i forgot what it called but it had Tron at the end of it, it sounded like an evil device, and what it does is it basically has kids held in the room and they show the kids the content, and the more the content can basically put the kids in a trance and make them addicted to it, the better. I saw this in a video essay talking about how horrible Cocomelon is for children. Do. Not. Let. You’re. Kids. Watch. It. Please…we need less brainrot.
Yet somehow, Cartoon Network doesnt want to let Teen Titans Go die. Its basically a little kid version of the Simpsons or Family Guy at this point.
At least they show it less pretty much just 1 hour a day
CN still feels empty though
@@chribel1yea,and remeber when damn shitty teen titans go took all the slots of shows and barley let any other be shown on cartoon network.
As another youtuber I watch put it in one of their vids: kids deserve good writing, too! You can't just write any stupid dumb stuff and expect kids to just love it. Not to mention that, sometimes, you need to appeal to the parents as well as the kids, especially for movies, as it's the parents thatbhave to pay for tockets and drive and schedule and stuff
With indie animation every time new animation video is uploaded it actually feel like a event and it spread the word of the video exists meanwhile with Hollywood thank to streaming they keep pupping out as much animation show like a factory with no time of build up also even when there a actual good animation show it might get cancelled or delisted in the future
Wizards Beyond Waverly Place might convince Disney to bring back stuff like Austin and Ally.
1. They shouldn't have gotten rid of broadcast weekdays and Saturday cartoons. On basic television with no cable. To limit toy commercials.
2. They shouldn't have relied so heavy on streaming services
3. They shouldn’t have put a ton of agenda pushing crap out to kids instead of letting them just be kids. And put out content for kids… TO SELL TOYS 😂
But hey, they got what they deserved
1. If you mean syndication and that e/i crap? That’s the American government’s fault. It’s why the cable animated channels became so popular while their network counterparts either became shells of themselves or cancelled.
2. Agreed. Most of the studios don’t really need a service. I bet most will go under and fold into either Netflix, Amazon or Disney.
3. Also agreed. Though I’m seeing the conservative equivalent with things like the New Norm or that show about the woodshop guy, which sounds so lame as the liberal version. I still laugh whenever there’s this lack of self awareness about shows from left leaning creators being all preachy, though. On the toy front? There’s haven’t been consistent toys for anything since maybe 2005-07. Really feels like things coming to roost.
4. I’ll add the point about how every cartoon has this incessant need to be ‘meta’. They can’t just be earnest or have heart, they have to from time to time have the characters written to speak self referentially and blurt out what they want the audience to feel instead of integrating it in the story itself.
5. Redeeming monstrous villains. For people who decry fascism, plenty shows have the same plot beat where they have to handwave a villain’s abusive behavior and awful actions for arbitrary reasons. Comically to the absurd extreme with Steven Universe and Korra. There’s also an undercurrent of bootlicking wealthy antagonists or giving them lackluster punishments no matter how awful they are.
I dropped Netflix Castlevania because of it being anti religious (as if teenagers who just discovered atheism are writing it) while being poorly thought out and not fun to watch. That and the creators seem to have this fetish with their major raceswapped black characters all being slaves and focusing on that fact. Unable to work with the fantasy alternate universe they created that was infinitely more tolerant than the real world at the time.
And not having Annette being Isaac’s descendant.
I’m not the biggest advocate for organized religion, however? None of the points in either show seem that deep and given how rich the subject matter and time period they’ve had to work with, especially the Balkans and Eastern Europe in the 15th century? Or the French Revolution? It’s a joke.
Especially compared to Blue Eye Samurai, where they cared enough to use the time period to its greatest advantage.
The problem with current day animation is that they made cartoons that are not focused on the kids' entertainment but towards older audiences aka animation fans who are in their late teens, their twenties and so on.
Back in the 80, 90, and early 2000, there was a balance on animation that was entertaining towards anyone. But now, as those fans who grow up with they hate the idea of having animation made solely to be big commercial.
True.
That’s a good way of putting it
Don't expect any of us to beg for them to come back Hollywood chose its side and it is against us
When your voice is gone but you need to record
Who do you call?
GHOST KNEON!
Geeky sparkles good,
But we want you know who
Who do we call?
GHOST KNEON!
The WOKE'th got the BROKE'th.
"THEY" brought it on themselves when parents started rejecting "The Message ".
The kids only watch 80-90's cartoons.
My kids are mostly watching old shows like 90s animated batman and old scooby doo from the 80's
I may be about 40 now, but when RUclips started, I already found TV obsolete. Compared to most, I did not watch that much TV to begin with. But now I have hours of RUclips running in the background as I work. It has everything I want when I want it, and it don't cost me a fortune to have.
17:30 Yeah, and some of that "quality content" tends to be content farms that contain things that really shouldn't be for kids. They even sometimes use currently popular IPs like Inside Out 2 or The Amazing Digital Circus. TADC is the most troubling one because it's not meant for kids. Yet it hasn't stopped people like Lanky Box from making reaction videos to it. In the most recent episode there's a scene where one of the characters says the word "hell" multiple times. Lanky Box had to cut that entire scene out of the reaction video. He really shouldn't be doing reaction videos to the show if he has to cut out an entire scene because something that isn't meant for kids gets brought up.
"Me Kneon." You had me 100% convinced.
I believe this is why so many adpocalpses happened. To sanitize the platform and clear the way for it to be the new tv.
We live in a era where cartoon ether getting cancelled for dumb reasons or delisted forever over a tax write off dispite a lot of people put time and effort to it all the while youtuber animation is rising because unless they break youtubers rules there no problem and there reuploding channel in case something happened to the original video
They aren't making "kids" stuff anymore. They're making cartoons for teens/adults that look like kids shows.
Fr. Even I don’t watch those things. And I’m an adult.
When the studios decided to get rid of Saturday Morning Cartoons, after school cartoons, and not connecting the animated series with toylines, that's when they began losing the kids. The kids are still out there and they are seeking out animated series but they have to go elsewhere now and it might not be exactly where the studios want, the studios had the kids attention throughout the 80s and 90s (I know because I was one of them) and then they screwed it up.
There was a time from the mid 90s-to the 2010s when you could turn on your TV and Have over a dozen High quality cartoons on at anytime. New ones would replace older ones which could still be found on repeat and you could see if CN or Nicktoons or Disney was showing your favorite...Now I'm not even sure if their is a single decent cartoon on any kids channel that's isn't a repeat of Zombie series(SpongeBob, Fairy Odd Parents, TTgo) Maybe Bluey? Or did they rid of that for some Woke Remake of an beloved property...In the end Modern kids don't have a fraction of the Quality we took for granted
Kids TV died in 2014 from Vortexx and Qubo in 2021
@erenjeager9442 how did Kids TV died in 2014 from Vortexx and Qubo 2021? I don't know if Japanese anime is striving or not since BlackRock and Crunchyroll ruined Japanese anime/manga
@noahalcantar2431 First of all, blackrock is a financial company and doesn't own anime, they only own companies with large profits. Also, crunchyroll licensed anime, they dont own it, only japanese companies do own anime.
@@erenjeager9442I'm just worried that Japan including the Japanese anime and manga industry will end up getting infected by wokeness
@@erenjeager9442Look what happened with Nintendo since Nintendo ended up getting infected with wokeness with Pokemon, Splatoon, Animal crossing, and Paper Mario TTYD remake due to gender politics
@noahalcantar2431 yeah I haven't played video games since Metal Gear Solid 3. But I know wokeness did affect Disney more often
There is one major downside to switching to sites like RUclips: clickbait rules there (and in RUclips Kids, clickbait's dominance is unshakeable). There is an extremely simple formula for getting children to click on and thus ratify a video, and it isn't to produce quality content. Go short-form, copy enough of somebody else's work to cause the algorithms to promote yours alongside the original, go with the weird, suggestive and gross because kids love to check all of that out, increase colour saturation and shorten the length of time between camera cuts to key into ways a developing brain can be trained into focusing on what you're showing it over anything else in the child's world... it's true that Hollywood isn't able to aim high enough to recapture their market, but they also aren't the ones aiming the lowest.
HOW TF CAN Disney not figure out U2b... just throw 500k at 50 different shows , and keep the ones that blow up. And hire from known top creators..
Its so easy if you have money
That would definitely be the strat, but Disney prefers filling quotas.
Murder Drones anyone? and now Digital Circus as well. Granted those aren't "kids" shows, but it's a variation on what you're talking about.
mr rogers neighbourhood , mr dressup , bluey, the friendly giant were great shows that appealed to kids. they were gentle fun . you have nothing like that anymore
Even if cable TV suddenly had the greatest shows of all time, it wouldn't fix the issue. Kids are definitely gonna choose youtube or pirating content to watch whatever they want.
Yeah, that's a very good point. But still, Cable TV has indeed been offering us true quality shows....
The only reason why so many states still have cable is because in many cities and towns the internet still sucks, many people do not have access to unlimited internet, most are still bound to 100mbs or below and cannot stream without big penalties if they go over a certain limit imposed by these services. We also have a problem with all these companies producing media based on the input for a few loud mouth online groups who are in a very small echo chamber, the majority of society is not made up of these woke, social drones and companies keep thinking this is the entire of society and that is why they are failing.
So you say you have better internet than Germany. 16 kbit/s is the minimum and you have to be lucky to get 50megabits/s
Kneon, keep a cat purring to your side. The Purring has many beneficial effects on healing and recovering, and you could open your OF-like selling pictures of you and the cat sleeping together..
Well Neon, he isn't wrong because Geeky is the best.
Unfortunately, indie animation is going to be screwed over by RUclips in the long term. It’s all going to depend on if they are willing to go the extra mile and then some for the fans. Video platform decentralization needs to be a thing lest the censors win. There’s no room for complacency.
It's because indie creators can provide far better and more engaging storytelling than anything that Hollywood's been able to do for the past few years now. And it's not just indie animators that are able to do this, but indie game developers are capable of providing better experiences than AAA titles as well because the industry (both game industry and cartoon industry, and just most of the entertainment industry in general) is too cowardly to tell a compelling, deep story that kids can understand.
For example, Glitch Productions, here on RUclips, is by far my favorite indie entertainment cartoon company. Not only because their shows look gorgeous and the music is good and whatnot, but because their shows are good in general and the stories tied to those shows are thought-provoking, and that's what people care about. Not all the time, because there are cartoons and other forms of media and entertainment that are just purely silly and wacky, and that works, too. But as long as whatever they're putting out is ACTUALLY GOOD... that's all that people want. Kids deserve better than whatever Hollywood is giving out to them these days.
Murder drones and the amazing digital circus are amazing. The best entertainment I had in years.
@BrianGeller Same, honestly. I watched Murder Drones up until Episode 6 with some friends of mine on Discord (Episode 6 was still considered the newest episode at that point), and I loved it. Watched Episode 7 and 8 with them, too, and I honestly can't remember a time I liked a cartoon show as much as I loved Murder Drones. It's such a good show because it leaves details that you, as the viewer, have to pick up on and use your brain to put the puzzle pieces together.
*Spoilers below for the series for those who haven't watched it yet*
For a simple example, the fact that Uzi got the Absolute Solver from using N's saliva to heal her stab wound from N's tail in the very first episode is clever.
For a more detailed and complex example, there's the fact that JCJenson is a front or became a front for Cyn/The Absolute Solver for creating Disassembly Drones after the Elliott family was massacred, Earth was destroyed, and all humans were wiped out.
It's little details like that, along with its other various forms of foreshadowing that I love about the series.
The Hollywood is now dead in the entertainment business of animation and everyone that’s going on RUclips watching !
It’s insane how a series with only 3 episodes at the moment got more popular in less than a year by some guys who make funny Mario Gmod animations than most Movies
The Hobo Bros are awesome.
Thank Gooseworx, the idea creator
*Used to make. SMG4 has been spiritually dead since 2018.
@@Sr.BulletBill I mean, they could just give Bob his own series. I love that sword-armed bastard
@@Cubeytheawesome They won't, because Bob is not a waifu.
They done replaced the man with GI (Geeky Intelligence).
Unfortunately, RUclips kids' content is scary and more dangerous than even Disney. I still blame Disney!
Glitch productions is basically the head of indie animation and for a good reason
Kids deserve a LOT better than what modern Hollywood makes for them, especially Disney.
Kneon is dead and you’re training his AI replacement.
What turns me off with American Animation is the art style because the Art style in the 80’s ,90,and early early 21 century the art style was good then the art style went to crap
there's also the problem of companies trying to instantly cash out on everything without building a series and audience
And the award for best impression of Kneon goes to Geeky Sparkles 🎉
These companies biggest mistake is pretending that these shows are for today's kids. shows today are being made for audiences that were kids in the late 90s and 2000s. Todays kids shows are literally filled with references from things from the 90s and 2000s. Kids will never understand these references and thats why they get canceled because these shows are being watched by the audience that were kids 20 years ago. the owl house had so many reference from old shows I wasn't even surprised it didn't gather enough kids audience and was being watch by people in college.
Please make a short of 'Faox Kneon'. I had a good laugh at that. XD
And we really surprised? Kids' TV is dead in the states because people refuse to give them what they both want and NEED. People pointed out how 'role model' characters have been made horribly and that kids didn't want them. Girls don't want mean, mannish looking 'strong girl bosses' that yell at everything and hate things. Boys don't want weak, simpering boy characters.
This ain't hard to figure out.
now we need a video of you two switching voices... freaking love you guys, thanks for the video!
My 5 year old LOVES gardening youtube channels.
Same. Older kids we used appleTV to filter what the kids watched. Younger kids just use YT. Same with older now. Heck. Same with me and I’m GenX.
Honestly that a good thing. If Hollywood wasn’t treating animation like trash this wouldn’t never happen. Nickelodeon is a prime example since 2010 how not to run a platform.
Animation is obviously not welcome in HW so just let it go. They prove they don’t want it now they’re mad people are making better stuff on they’re own because we don’t need they’re dumb contracts and impossible standard for chum changing show how much we advance.
Can I point out how much COPA and SOPA has utterly ruined the potential to really make stuff for kids?
100% this.
@@vincent207 what's more annoying on how it didn't fix anything but effectively closed a market that allows your average streamer to soak up the kids
KIDS! I don’t know what’s wrong with these kids today… 😜
Bye Bye Birdie reference?
@@thephantomoftheparadise5666 KIDS! Who can understand anything they say? 😁