Great minds think alike. I have a blue scaled kobold Draconic Sorc/tempest cleric that is convinced he's a Blue dragon, but someone or something messed with him while he was inside his egg. My DM let me reflavor Shocking grasp as a small breath weapon, have so much fun with him
@@jakobchaney6819 Treantmonk's build was Tempest Cleric/Scribes Wizard, and in the video he specifically talked about how Tempest/Storm doesn't really make much sense.
Sage advice answered the question about sunlight sensitivity talking about wildshaped druids still suffer from the penalty "unless the beast form lacks sight. Sunlight Sensitivity requires sight". So the upshot is that no matter how you can see, if you're using your eyes you have the penalty, but if you're not using your eyes, you don't. So it appears the blindfold+blindsight is legit per sage advice.
I'm with you on the interpretation that blind-fighting would eliminate the disadvantage on perception and attack rolls in direct sunlight(within the first 10'). Thematically, I would say, a deep hooded cloak and blindfold during such times would be really cool!
Not to mention the idea of a partial dragon resistant to fire would be harmed by sunlight on its skin. Lol! Kobolds are supposed top be subterranean creatures, that just tells me their eyes aren’t used to bright light. As a DM, I’d totally let a kobold lose disadvantage if they blindfight, especially with a hood, as in your idea.
@@clo8076 At our table while you'd be welcome to avoid the penalty by doing this, it literally means you can't see enemies, terrain, etc greater than 10' away and raising or lowering such a hood or similar blindfold would be an action. In short, there's really little benefit to doing this unless your opponents are standing still.
@@Ichiryu000 I imagine this more than just a hood. You're talking about putting a blindfold on. A turn is 6 seconds , it's not like it's an elastic sleep mask, you'd have to secure it in place. But hey, everyone's table is different. Essentially this is a debate about how to sidestep a built-in disadvantage, some tables are just going to flat out say "you can't" - For instance the argument that being IN sunlight is the trigger for this disadvantage, regardless of if you can see. So RAW this achieves nothing to begin with.
Blindfighting in my interpretation isn’t mutually exclusive with vision. I mean why is your blindsight turned off just because your eyes are open? Doesn’t make much sense if you look at animals with sonar or similar. There’s no reason why you couldn’t use your blindsight within 10’ and your vision beyond that.
@@VivianAckers why going above fighter 8 tbh? yes, third weapon attack, but if you're mixing in casting with weapon attacks that should be less of a concern. I could see fighter 5/ tempest cleric x or fighter 6/tempest cleric 2/ fighter 2 Rune knight and eldritch knight both have good options that add to Thor's abilities. Rune knight can even try to get booming blade and use it alongside cloud rune.
@@daltondavidson7997 agreed. repeating shot infusion will allow him to skip crossbow expert (since the bonus action of an artificer is always full anyway).
Errata: Kobolds only get a +2, not a +2 *and* a +1, so we'd have to take a hit to either Dex or Con if we wanted to go 13 Wis for Cleric (another reason to consider just doing Divine Soul). Also, to clarify: I realize that pushing your enemy away would likely move them away from your ally and move them out of the 10' reach of your spirit shroud damage, thus greatly reducing the nova damage numbers - my intent was *not* to transmute scorching ray to lightning during the nova round, simply present all the amount of enemy movement you could potentially do as an option. Carry on!
@@snazzyfeathers I would highly recomend asking your dm to just act like if the spell list and carracter cheet say "fire", you deside it is cold(or a single other type). www.google.com/amp/s/www.sageadvice.eu/would-it-alter-the-balance-of-the-game-to-change-a-weapons-damage-type-from-piercing-to-slashing/amp/ It is fun to think about tho❤
have you done a video on fighter 2 / hexblade 3 / bladesinger/lorehold 15 yet? they make 19 attacks by doing a combo like this: weapon attack + eldritch blast [4 beams] (action) weapon attack + eldritch blast [4 beams] (action surge) quickened scorching ray at 8th level [9 beams] stacking this with a 7th level spirit shroud and hexblade's curse for 3d8+6 on each beam.
@@snazzyfeathers Sort of... only if you could transmute Scorching Ray every time. So you'd either need a lot of Sorc points or to go Scribes Wizard, I guess.
@@DnDDeepDive The RP of the Dragon Sorcerer is quite fun to play around with. As is the Dragon 'Mage Armor'. But the huge amount of versatility and the extra points we get to put into important stats (especially if ur using the Kobold) IMO makes the Divine Soul the optimal choice. Personally I'd Go with Custom Lineage for 'Race' choice & pick up Fey Touched as my bonus feat. Thus starting with an 18 Cha and making a capped modifier much quicker. I honestly still feel that Elemental Adept is a bit redundant, and a Feat is a heavy investment. I would probably go with Tough or Lucky. I've been subscribed to this channel since about episode 13, it's fantastic to see the expansive growth that you've brought about. Keep up the excellent work!! 👍
love these videos so much. my friend got me into your channel and I'm kind of just jumping around different videos right now, but these builds are amazing
Never heard of you until your collaboration with The Dungeon Dudes. Loved yalls mini shots. Found you now. See ya have a live play, now I will watch yalls until I finish it or The Fate of Drakkenheim drops, then I'll finish yours in between episodes! Bunch of fun watchin you bud. Very informative n cool as well!
I love catapult because it only requires somatic components. I don't know why but I'm always looking at the components and thinking of situations where I'm hiding in an illusion or if I'm tied up but not gagged. When I spell just has an S or a v it gets me excited for those weird edge cases
Well, if your goal was to deal pure damage, I think tiefling+flames of phlegethos deserves a special mention and is stronger then the kobold if you can't get pack tactics to trigger. Winged tiefling is obviously broken, but the others from MtoF are decent options. Nowadays you probably want to go custom lineage. Since you already are a hexblade, you should consider green flame blade. Especially with quicken spell. I would definitely pick up shield for one of the hexblade spells known. The two levels of Fighter do wonders to your one round burst damage, but I think they are otherwise pretty lackluster. You have a short rest single target ability from hexblade already, I don't think action surge to burn through your resources quicker is that necessary in actual play. Getting more spells, slots, sorcery points and faster ability score improvements seems more valuable overall. You will be less of a one trick pony overall and still do great damage. Special mention to magic missile which also does great damage with hexblade's curse in case you need to circumvent fire resistance/immunity or high armor class. There are a number of easy ways to thwart your calculations in actual play: Sunlight, no ally adjacent (e.g. because the target teleported), opponents near you just to name a few. Just adding a level of hexblade to a fire heavy draconic sorcerer seems much more versatile while giving up very little.
Hey great video. I came back to comment about a similar build I’m playing and last night we had our big boss fight for chapter 1. I’ve been playing a UA Phoenix sorcerer and I’m a tiefling. Doing the same strat with scorching ray + hex + mantle of flame. We’re currently level 4 and during my 3 nova rounds I did 55, 42, and 32 damage. The boss had 15AC. It was crazy doing that much damage. While I don’t get advantage for not being a kobold I love this character and I’m still doing really good in combat. Cant wait for level 5+ :)
Made my self a Dwarven (Hill), Dragon Sorcerer so he gets good HP every level. 1d6, +1, +1, and a decent Con to start 3 for 1d6+5 HP every level. Colby was watching again and was wondering if it would make sense to take another level of Warlock to get Invocations or the Eldritch Adept Feat to get Devil's Sight? Darkness and Devil's Sight would keep us from having to worry about Sunlight Sensitivity. Also in the sneak peak of Mordenkainen's Guide to the Multiverse (Nerd Emersion Channel) showed kobolds without Sunlight Sensitivity, +2, +1, and No Pact Tactics.
For the question at ~33min about sunlight sensitivity and blind fighting, I'd say the most intuitively sensible interpretation is that the "that rely on sight" bit applies to both. The context (it's given to races that in the lore have traditionally lived mostly underground), the co-text (the phrasing being in a way that makes it interpretable when, if they wanted to say all attack rolls rather than just sight-reliant ones, they could've easily specified that), and the mechanics (the fact that you don't have to be in direct sunlight, so long as your target is) all point to that. Bright light make eye go aegh
Since Kobold has been changed so much in MotM, I wonder how that would affect this build. No reliable advantage and no need for Blind Fighting could theoretically change the entire build.
MotM makes me want to run a red chromatic Dragonborn dragonic sorcerer instead. Get resistance to fire naturally instead of having to spend a sorcery point for temp resistance. Then immunity to fire for a minute as an action to nuke yourself with a quickened fireball. You also get a few uses of the breath weapon to save on spell slots per long rest. The option to have a sorcerer just coat himself in lingering fire while immune somehow/way and laugh while he has 13 + dex AC is also a funny situation. Then there's taking a dive in lava if the DM allows it, because you are _immune,_ bonus points if you hug an enemy before you dive in.
I’m playing a version of this kobold (currently 11th level in a Red Opera campaign), and last Sunday was the first time firing on all cylinders (5th level Spirit Shroud, Action Surge, two 4th level Scorching Rays): hit AC 22 w 6 out of 10 and 1 crit. Rolled 14d6 + 14d8. Totaled 119 dmg. Me, before rolling: “I’ll lay down some covering fire.” Friend, as the last die rolled to a stop: “That wasn't cover fire, I saw that. That was an orbital strike.” Well done, sir 🔥
That's a solid build. I actually play as a tiefling sorcerer with two core talents: Flames of Phlegethos and Elemental Adept. Basically, whenever I make an attack with fire damage, I have the ability to reroll any 1s that come up on the dice. In the event that I'm unlucky and roll another 1, it is treated as a 2 instead. But that's not all. When I use a fire magic attack, Phlegethos grants me a fire armor that causes anyone who hits me to be lit up and take an additional 1d4 fire damage. And to top it off, I can ignore fire resistance. I absolutely adore this build. If you choose the Draconic Bloodline for your sorcerer, at level 6, you can add your Charisma modifier to every attack made with your ancestral element, resulting in a significant amount of damage per turn.
Just realized that a light domain cleric would also have a pretty solid nova round. Could take metamagic adept to get a few twinned spells or a quickened one or fey touched for more damage at levels 3/4. Would innately have spirit shroud, lots of channel divinity to turn to spell slots, and potentially higher level cleric spells... worth a consideration.
sadly metamagic adept doesn't get you twinned. you'd really have to dip into sorc for that. going light also means not going tempest and you lose out ona lot of dmg on destructive wrath + transmuted scorching ray.
Prioritize Wisdom, don't multiclass, use your Twilight Sanctuary as often as possible. Now you're more defensively powerful than any build ever created. :)
There has never been any other mention of the suns effects on sunlight sensitive creatures other than vision in all of dnd history until now (outside of vampires). Why start now?
I really hope they keep the Way of the Ascendant Dragon in the UA the way it is. Tempest Cleric, three levels of Monk, go anywhere you want after that. It’s the melee version of this and it seems great on paper.
If you couldn't convince you DM that Blind Fighting would mitigate Sunlight Sensitivity then your best bet is Twilight cleric. It creates 30 foot radius of dim light around you, which will solve all of the problems with sunlight which you could ever had. And Twilight cleric is also absolutely busted support subclass even without that
Theoretically spirit shroud could do some crazy damage if you could keep your target at 10 feet like blind fighting suggests Edit: oops should've finished before commenting
I'm curious if the Pyromancy subclass for Sorcerer's from Kaladesh is a good fit here. It allows you to put out crazy Dave even against fire resistant and eventually immune enemies
I wonder if it would be a worthwhile trade, with the forced movement from tempest cleric, to switch the warlock levels to genie and take enough to get spike growth from the Dao list?
Greetings from Austria! Thanks for your Videos, Especially the Sliding into my DMs. I really enjoy it and watched almost all builds you make, especially the Tanky builds. Would it be possible for you to list your Levelpath in the video description? I tried to build some characters like you and it would be really helpful to have a listing: Which level was skilled in which class. Keep doing what you are doing! Its really cool stuff you make here!
Danke! I *do* put out written “cheat sheets” for the builds, but it *is* actually the one thing I give as a benefit to members of the channel - here’s a little video I did explaining why if you’re at all interested - I’d love to have you as a member! (it’s pretty cheap : ) ) ruclips.net/video/op_QNygYv3E/видео.html
Note on Catapult: if the target saves, the projectile keeps going to the next viable target in the path of the throw. Just had my wife's wizard Catapult a rock toward the back of the head of the enemy in front of her - it saved, she didn't and took a rock to the face. (Also had a party nearly kill a friendly NPC due to the baddie making the save and the ally being in the projectile's path)
You sure about that? In that case every arrow should go through as well doesnt it? I think there is no such rule in 5e but i as well ruled it like that in a narrow path where the party activated a dart trap^^
@@jomohunter4649 Pretty sure. The wording on the spell in Xanathar's is "The object flies in a straight line up to 90 feet in a direction you choose before falling to the ground, stopping early if it impacts against a solid surface. If the object would strike a creature, that creature must make a Dexterity saving throw. On a failed save, the object strikes the target and stops moving." I take it the same way I would a draconic line of lightning - everything in this line has a chance of taking damage - whereas a single arrow is meant to target just one person.
You can also catapult a bag with acid vials or alchemist fire inside it. On failed save they need to save against the substance DC or take additional damage
Is there any other reliable way to gain advantage since pack tactics has been essentially removed? How much is the build nerfed without advantage? I was wanting to do a different race concept with this but still focus on the flame throwing aspect.
Right - the only problem with Bestow Curse is the extra round of set up - I love it for fights against a BBEG that you *know* are going long. With the Hold spells, I ultimately decided against because, as they require your concentration and take an action to cast, on your nova round, you'd get half the attacks for double the dice, minus the extra damage from Hex or Spirit Shroud. Also, the crit only counts if you're standing 5 feet away from the Paralyzed target, so you'd now need to get the Crossbow Expert feat to keep advantage. Just got a little weird. Overall might be better damage for your entire party, depending on your party. Worth considering.
@@DnDDeepDive you dont need to use crossbow expert to keep advantage. The disadvantage for "melee" ranged attacks only applies if the enemy isn't incapacitated. The enemy is incapacitated while paralyzed. Little addendum to the above: you get to keep advantage on "melee" ranged attacks as well if the enemies cant see you like via illusions, obscurement like shadow of moil/fog cloud, blindness and invisibility.
@@TheRobversion1 Good catch on the incapacitated. As for the "enemy can't see you" bit - I just had to look it up in the PHB and somehow never realized that the disadvantage only applies if they can see you. Nice.
@@DnDDeepDive yup. I dont worry about it too much in my experience as optimized ranged martials typically have advantage generators and most advantage generators involve not being "seen."
8:16 I know that you meant the professional basketball team, but I like to imagine that there are competitions where jazz musicians try to out-jazz each other, and Colby screams wildly in attendance.
I’m curious how this build might change if you went with an elvish ancestry so you could use Elven Accuracy for super advantage on all of the rays. What might you suggest to get reliable advantage now that pack tactics is out?
I would absolutely watch a remake of Thunderball where Sean Connery is a kobold. Don't have to change anything else or even mention the difference, or have anyone question why a kobold is real or in her majesty's secret service. Also, what happened with that level 15 font? 🤣
I'd love to see your take on one of my characters that I've really enjoyed playing. His name is Devo. Because he uses a whip. He whips it. Whips it good. He's primarily a fighter with Maneuvers for controlling the battlefield.
With tashas optional rules, i made a half orc +2 dex, with draconic resistance and a shield i have 18 ac, and i started as a paladin defence fighting style defence +1, im not wearing any amor and have a Ac of 19, and when my Dex is better will be 21, and with a shield spell just for funzis
I am calling this the "Roy Mustang" class (at least before the cleric levels). Flame spell slinger, going into military service, then doing a few magic no-nos. The only thing that doesn't work is that Roy doesn't need blind fighting... because of being a kobold. Maybe his hex object could be the pocket watch? (Not a weapon, but he won't use the weapon skills of the class). If your DM allows MTG material, I'd look at pyromancer as your sorcerer subclass. Unfortunately 2 fighter/1 hexblade means you never get the 18th level feature that turns fire immunity into resistance. But, fire shield on a pyromancer is fun, as per the Roy Mustang build by Tulok, which was returning > 30 damage every time it is hit (even without Armor of Agathys).
Permanent advantage option for pack tactics: Purchase a Mastiff and get him some Barding (dog armor), possible to take the Mounted Combatant feat, not necessary, but you will always be within 5 feet of an Ally(Mastiff) and increase your movement speed. Should work for most DM's ruling of an Ally.
Love your channel!! Where are you getting the 14 constitution from? To my knowledge, kobold only get the +2 to one ability score and nothing else. Mine as it stands is a 13. Did I miss something?
Does you wearing red mean you are switching from.the jazz to the clippers? Haha. glad to see a nice variation of my force lightning build (shadow sorc 6, 2 fighter, 2 tempest). i went shadow sorc but yeah draconic is a worthy alternative. i went custom lineage with feytouched but yeah kobold is great as well. i'm with you on the kobold sunlight sensitivity ruling. anyway my only quip here is that RAW destructive wrath applies to all rays. as per JC and the PHB, when you cast scorching ray (unlike attacking with weapons) you resolve all attacks/choose targets at the same time (you can't wait and see if an opponent dies to a ray before sending an extra ray to another target). due to this all the attacks of the spell scorching ray are treated as one instance (because they are happening all at the same time) and therefore all are maximized. all attacks for scorching ray are resolved 1st then dmg resolution for all rays happens together (and this is where you activate destructive wrath).
Think you could do a Lycan Blood Hunter burst build with dexterity? I'm trying to figure out how best to build mine and I was wondering what you might do with this idea.
An alternate version that trades some damage for control, versatility, and access to higher level spells: Hexblade 1 for armor, hexblade’s curse, and hex. Then Graviturgist 6 for Scorching Ray, Spirit Shroud, and Gravity Well. Then Fighter 2 for Action Surge. It would require a discussion with the DM, but a fair interpretation of the wording of Gravity Well is that you would get 5 feet of forced moment for every spell attack roll that you land, no saving throw. The direction is unspecified, so that could be straight up - which means you add fall damage to your attack, plus imposing the prone condition. At wizard level six it would be 2d6 bludgeoning for a 20 foot fall if you land all four rays from a third level casting (rather than the flat +4 from Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer’s Elemental Affinity), so not a ton, admittedly. But it would provide some of the forced movement that you liked about the Tempest cleric, add a bit of extra damage, and not sacrifice access to higher level spells from additional multiclassing- in addition to providing all the versatility of a Wizard when you’re not doing the nova round.
26d6 + 39d8 + 88 !!! I had to stop the video, run to my DnDBeyond, and make it roll that just to watch the madness go across my screen. It delighted me how long it took it to calculate the result, even without adding the 88. So, how do know how many times you critted? Anyway… amazing ha ha ha!
You know, I *have* a TikTok account, but poor Mr. Rogers was slaving over creating little "shorts" of the weekly vid and it didn't seem to be driving a lot of traffic, from what we could tell. Maybe one day when we can all quit our day jobs...
Skills is relatively easy on its own but I have a growing fascination with kits and musical instruments and artisan tools but there's almost no utility in game...
I'm running this build up to the warlock. The difference im doing is not optimized but is fun. I went Fathomless for story reasons, im jormungandyr reincarnated. You lose a lot of value for quickened spell because your ba is not your tentacle but it reduces targets hit move speed and can protect you and allies. We have a monk, a rouge, and me so having the tentacle be a sudo front line is helpful
I had an idea for an alternate way to get scorching ray to combine with Thunderous Strike: Order of Scribes Wizard. As per the text of the level 2 Awakened Spellbook ability "When you cast a wizard spell with a spell slot, you can temporarily replace its damage type with a type that appears in your spellbook, which magically alters the spell's formula for this casting only. The latter spell must be of the same level as the spell slot you expend." Getting this to work at every level would require significant investment into your spellbook, but given how easily wizards are usually able to obtain new spells, it seems very feasible (of note is that there isn't a single fifth level spell that does lightning damage, which fucking sucks, but that's just part of the game we play [and I'm sure a lenient DM would be willing to permit a single random homebrew spell that's just flame strike but lightning or something similar]). Doing the combination this way means you only have to do a two level dip into wizard and the six into cleric, giving you fourteen levels to play with as you wish. I think this sounds like a lot of fun, though there are a few disadvantages when compared to the Flame Thrower. I'd still play it this way myself, personally, but maybe that's just me.
You could go twilight domain for the cleric and then your twilight sanctuary would remove the sunlight sensitivity as you’d be in dim light at all times it’s in effect. (This could even be done level 1 and 2 to get heavy armor too.)
The new Bugbear gets an extra 2d6 damage on every attack as long as the target hasn't taken a turn yet in the current combat. It would be cool to see it used for something like this or a Gloom Stalker. Assassin Rogue could give advantage to either build.
Thank you. My love for sorcerers, and more so draconic blodline, is well put on this build. Thought im not a fan of multiclasing, I do love the idea of the little kobold that could... And will destroy you all
Ehh… you’re still “in” the bright light but I’d allow it since a kobald running around blindfolded like Samurai Jack one shotting a pit fiend is dope as hell. I’d make you train with your dragon mentor to figure it out though.
I knew it . that build is rather bonkers I have thought about it. I thought that spirit shroud was in the sorcerer spells "wizards gets it" so yeah ... very big damage !!
Would you be willing to do a character inspired by a speedster like the Flash? Optimized for movement speed and number of attacks with both evasion and uncanny dodge?
@@DnDDeepDive This idea has stuck in my head for some reason. I keep picturing using some combination of rogue with beast barbarian for the extra attack while raging with beast claws at Barb3. But I’m not sure what else (if anything) to mix in to get ideally five attacks per round consistently. Fighter takes too long, dread ambusher Isn’t sustainable... Maybe Monk? But rogues get better access to evasion and uncanny dodge. I’m really not sure. Can you choose whether you want to use the martial arts die from Monk or the from beast claws? Wording on claws seems like a yes but it wouldn’t count towards your flurry of blows. Would artificer be worth it for non-concentration sources of additional damage per attack? I don’t know, but hopefully this is something you can help answer.
@@cornycornsnake took a stab at a strong Beast Barb with the Spore Beast if you haven’t seen it yet. Problem with Rogue levels is I don’t believe your claws would count as finesse weapons, though you could still use a finesse weapon and then claws...
I agree with the monk tank build, I think I emailed you saying something about a monk tank but I may have forgot. I know you responded to my email but I don't remember if I actually put monk tank in there, I think you should use either a Satyr or a yuan-ti pureblood as the race
In your divine soul build you don't have to wait to upcast spirit shroud, you can create a 5th level spell slot with sorcery points as soon as you have the spell. Granted that requires sacrificing spell slots for sorcery points, but in the spirit of going nova it must be said.
RAW, "You can never have more sorcery points than shown on the table for your level." so you can't do that till 7th level since it costs 7 sorcery points to make a 5th level spell slot. Still, that's 2 levels early!
EEEEK!!! I'm like #666, and to think your hexblade is what brought me to your channel in the first place! #backbebesatanback #thebloodofChristcompelsyou :D
Colby, I recently discovered your videos and am working through your entire Optimized play list. I recently through of an interesting character concept for min maxing, out of combat skills. Specifically min maxing for social situations. My idea is Eloquence Bard (so you can actually be a useful support in combat + expertise), use your expertise for Insight and Perception and other Cha skills, take the observant feat. You will have 32 passive perception/insight by lvl 17 and you are going to be out passing almost everyone's deception checks the entire life of the character. In the right campaign it would be super fun and I would love to know your thoughts/what spells you think would hep out with the idea of min maxing for social situations.
I'd add in classes that either give you bonuses to your social skills or penalties to their insight checks. here's some to consider: fey wanderer: guidance, otherworldly glamour diviner: portent rune knight: fire rune/frost rune, storm rune fiend: dark one's own luck, pact of the talisman wild sorc: tides of chaos, bend luck, subtle spell aberrant mind: psionic sorcery, subtle spell divine soul: guidance, subtle spell soul knife: psi-bolstered knack samurai: elegant courtier stars druid: guidance, cosmic omen artificer: flash of genius imo the wild sorc brings the most to a multiclass but some people hate wild magic so i'd consider aberrant mind or divine soul as well. being able to casts spells in social situations will be very useful.
@@TheRobversion1 I was doing some more pondering over this class and I remembered that you want at least 3 levels into College of Eloquence Bard for the Silver Tough feature (treat roles of 9 or less as 10s for Persuasion and Deception). I do love your idea of going into sorc after that for subtle spell.
@@Strefz17 yup. that's how i envision it. taking at least 3 eloquence then either 3 sorc or 6 aberrant mind then up to you how you want to progress from there. i also like the idea that with aberrant mind you have easy access to telepathic communication for social situations.
You should consider getting empowered spell. It is dirt cheap to use and you can decide whether to use it or not AFTER you see the rolls on your spell (even if you already used some metamagic), meaning that you can use it when you cast a fireball and see 2 or 3 bad rolls for easily an extra 20 to 50 damage across all targets. I even use it on scorching ray sometimes as dealing an extra 10 to 15 damage is a great deal for a single sorcery point. It is far more useful than quickened spell at lower levels and even at higher levels you will find yourself using it a lot.
Or, here's the better take that I'd have if I was DM'ing for someone who wanted to play Kobold than allowing your blindsight tactic: 'Sunlight sensitivty is BS so just pretend that doesn't exist'. But then I'm also someone who would let anyone who wanted to play barbarian either play a half-orc (mechanically) and reskin it as whatever they wanted for the RP, or, without much persuasion needed (because, and I'll acknowledge my bias as someone who loves barbarian+3 dip into fighter for champion greataxe half orcs) let them take savage attacks somehow (as a homebrew feat, trading it for another racial ability etc), so maybe I'd also be a bit too generous to allowing cool stuff.
If I'm doubling down on fire damage with sorcerer I tend to start with the Pyromancer sorcerer in the Plane Shift Kaladesh pdf. Pick green flame blade and firebolt among your starting cantrips. After a few levels of sorcerer take either 3 or 6 levels of celestial warlock. Pick tome pact, and get a CHA shillelagh. Seriously consider going to 6th level for the feature that adds your Cha mod to fire and radiant spells. Stack the feats war caster, polearm master, and maybe flames of phlegethos if you're a tiefling. Get a staff and use it to deliver green flame blades on your opportunity attacks. Take sorcerer the rest of the way, or take a 2 level detour into paladin for armor, shields, smites, a single level increase to your sorcerer caster levels, and a fighting style. If magic items are on the table get illusionist bracers and cast green flame blade up to 3 times every round depending on enemy movement. I did the math once for a level 6 pyro sorc/6 celestial lock green flame blade with polearm master and war caster. If you get the main attack and the opportunity attack you roll about as many d8's as a similar level rogue would roll d6's on sneak attack, plus you add your cha mod 2 to 4 times on each target. If you add those 2 levels of paladin you're then free to burn sorc and lock spell slots on smite for more d8's. The upside of this over hexblade and dragon sorc is you're freed up to pick non blade pact invocations, you have a lot more healing options, and when you inevitably face a fire immune enemy your radiant spells are a reliable option.
I've done a similar build, but instead of going kobold, I went with Tiefling. Flames of Phlegethos racial feat effectively gives you a free empowered spell metamagic on all fire spells with no sorc point cost, and helps you out if you even get caught in melee by making it less appealing to hit you (as you get a mini fireshield) I debated either going 6 levels of Hexblade warlock to pick up med armor prof, Hexblade's Curse, Spirit Shroud, Armor of Agathys and Eldritch Smite (I was playing a Gish) Transmute and upcast Spirit Shroud from cold to fire Transmute AoA from cold to fire And run around point blank blasting scorching ray in people's faces while being a living fireball
here's the level 10 spread of a one-shot booming blader whispers bard i played: 3 rune knight, 5 whispers, 2 grave cleric i can explain more if interested.
Check out the Lockadin if you haven’t yet. It’s not *really* a Whispers Bard build, but by the end it actually has more Whispers levels than anything :P (it’s also the build I’m playing in our current campaign!)
Should do an update for this considering MotM. I came here wondering for ways to use Jim's magic missle, a spell that I think might have some potential as a Better eldritch blast...
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"If you are under direct sunlight, you are in trouble"
Me, a ginger: *nods understandingly*
Hahahaha same
This is actually hilarious, because I made a brass draconic sorcerer kobold last week. He thinks he is a small gold dragon
Might steal this idea! xD
Great minds think alike. I have a blue scaled kobold Draconic Sorc/tempest cleric that is convinced he's a Blue dragon, but someone or something messed with him while he was inside his egg. My DM let me reflavor Shocking grasp as a small breath weapon, have so much fun with him
Level 1:(see above) [sorcerer 1, race & sub-class]
Level 2:(see above) [sorcerer 2]
Level 3:(@17:03) [sorcerer 3 & metamagic]
Level 4:(@22:40) [sorcerer 4 & ASI]
Level 5:(@24:40) [sorcerer 5]
Level 6:(@26:04) [sorcerer 6]
Level 7:(see above) [fighter 1 & fighting-style]
Level 8:(@35:53) [fighter 2]
Level 9:(@37:06) [warlock 1 & sub-class]
Level 10:(see above) [cleric 1 & sub-class]
Level 11:(@48:49) [cleric 2]
Level 12:(@51:51) [cleric 3]
Level 13:(@52:52) [cleric 4 & ASI]
Level 14:(see above) [cleric 5]
Level 15:(@57:29) [cleric 6]
Level 16:(@1:01:59) [sorcerer 7]
Level 17:(@1:02:42) [sorcerer 8 & ASI]
Hope that helps.
THANKS
"I'm sorry for my voice, it's sexy af today"
fixed it for you~
LOL!
*"I cast fireball"*
The minute my DM did the math he would laugh. Then he would murder me. 😂
"No, I don't care how big the room is, I cast fireball!"
I resend all my barbarian levels
Sir, this is a session 0
@@danielclark-hughes692 "Yes, this is my character introduction".
P L E A S E do a storm sorcerer or tempest cleric build, like a- lighting master
keep watching... :)
Watch til the end. You might be surprised.
Treantmonk did a video on this, seemed pretty cool
@@jakobchaney6819 Treantmonk's build was Tempest Cleric/Scribes Wizard, and in the video he specifically talked about how Tempest/Storm doesn't really make much sense.
@@eshansingh1 meant to say *similar video* thanks for catching it
Sage advice answered the question about sunlight sensitivity talking about wildshaped druids still suffer from the penalty "unless the beast form lacks sight. Sunlight Sensitivity requires sight". So the upshot is that no matter how you can see, if you're using your eyes you have the penalty, but if you're not using your eyes, you don't. So it appears the blindfold+blindsight is legit per sage advice.
I'm with you on the interpretation that blind-fighting would eliminate the disadvantage on perception and attack rolls in direct sunlight(within the first 10'). Thematically, I would say, a deep hooded cloak and blindfold during such times would be really cool!
Not to mention the idea of a partial dragon resistant to fire would be harmed by sunlight on its skin. Lol! Kobolds are supposed top be subterranean creatures, that just tells me their eyes aren’t used to bright light. As a DM, I’d totally let a kobold lose disadvantage if they blindfight, especially with a hood, as in your idea.
@@clo8076 At our table while you'd be welcome to avoid the penalty by doing this, it literally means you can't see enemies, terrain, etc greater than 10' away and raising or lowering such a hood or similar blindfold would be an action. In short, there's really little benefit to doing this unless your opponents are standing still.
@@josephlieberman8295 a whole action!!! Free object interaction maybe
@@Ichiryu000 I imagine this more than just a hood. You're talking about putting a blindfold on. A turn is 6 seconds , it's not like it's an elastic sleep mask, you'd have to secure it in place. But hey, everyone's table is different. Essentially this is a debate about how to sidestep a built-in disadvantage, some tables are just going to flat out say "you can't" - For instance the argument that being IN sunlight is the trigger for this disadvantage, regardless of if you can see. So RAW this achieves nothing to begin with.
Blindfighting in my interpretation isn’t mutually exclusive with vision. I mean why is your blindsight turned off just because your eyes are open? Doesn’t make much sense if you look at animals with sonar or similar. There’s no reason why you couldn’t use your blindsight within 10’ and your vision beyond that.
I know youre gonna mention a lightning version probably, but Ill just say it now anyway
Please do a Thor build. Like the norse mythology version
Storm cleric or wiz\sorc?
@@jacobstallard2678 way too squishy, I've seen a decent Fighter 12/ tempest cleric 8 idea thrown around but idk about it, not 100 on it
@@VivianAckersif you are worried about HP just take dwarf and start with a decent CON.
@@ATMOSK1234 while I see your point, Thor is very much not a dwarf
@@VivianAckers why going above fighter 8 tbh?
yes, third weapon attack, but if you're mixing in casting with weapon attacks that should be less of a concern.
I could see fighter 5/ tempest cleric x
or fighter 6/tempest cleric 2/ fighter 2
Rune knight and eldritch knight both have good options that add to Thor's abilities.
Rune knight can even try to get booming blade and use it alongside cloud rune.
I lost it at one shotting Baphomet, that's fucking funny
The Thor build would be cool to see, however I would like to see an optimized use of the heavy crossbow
2 levels of Artificer would be in order (or an artificer companion)
@@daltondavidson7997 agreed. repeating shot infusion will allow him to skip crossbow expert (since the bonus action of an artificer is always full anyway).
Check out the Double Phantom Rogue build.
Y'know.... generally, I'm a pretty strict dm. But I like this interpretation of sunlight sensitivity and blind fighting
To me, it makes sense for RAW and RAI, plus it uses the rule of cool. They also pass up getting +1 AC to obtain it, which I feel is a worthy tradeoff.
Errata: Kobolds only get a +2, not a +2 *and* a +1, so we'd have to take a hit to either Dex or Con if we wanted to go 13 Wis for Cleric (another reason to consider just doing Divine Soul).
Also, to clarify: I realize that pushing your enemy away would likely move them away from your ally and move them out of the 10' reach of your spirit shroud damage, thus greatly reducing the nova damage numbers - my intent was *not* to transmute scorching ray to lightning during the nova round, simply present all the amount of enemy movement you could potentially do as an option. Carry on!
Have not watched the whole video just yet, but could we take the same build here and do it with lightning or cold?
@@snazzyfeathers I would highly recomend asking your dm to just act like if the spell list and carracter cheet say "fire", you deside it is cold(or a single other type). www.google.com/amp/s/www.sageadvice.eu/would-it-alter-the-balance-of-the-game-to-change-a-weapons-damage-type-from-piercing-to-slashing/amp/
It is fun to think about tho❤
have you done a video on fighter 2 / hexblade 3 / bladesinger/lorehold 15 yet? they make 19 attacks by doing a combo like this:
weapon attack + eldritch blast [4 beams] (action)
weapon attack + eldritch blast [4 beams] (action surge)
quickened scorching ray at 8th level [9 beams]
stacking this with a 7th level spirit shroud and hexblade's curse for 3d8+6 on each beam.
@@snazzyfeathers Sort of... only if you could transmute Scorching Ray every time. So you'd either need a lot of Sorc points or to go Scribes Wizard, I guess.
@@DnDDeepDive The RP of the Dragon Sorcerer is quite fun to play around with. As is the Dragon 'Mage Armor'. But the huge amount of versatility and the extra points we get to put into important stats (especially if ur using the Kobold) IMO makes the Divine Soul the optimal choice.
Personally I'd Go with Custom Lineage for 'Race' choice & pick up Fey Touched as my bonus feat. Thus starting with an 18 Cha and making a capped modifier much quicker. I honestly still feel that Elemental Adept is a bit redundant, and a Feat is a heavy investment. I would probably go with Tough or Lucky.
I've been subscribed to this channel since about episode 13, it's fantastic to see the expansive growth that you've brought about. Keep up the excellent work!! 👍
love these videos so much. my friend got me into your channel and I'm kind of just jumping around different videos right now, but these builds are amazing
Thanks - glad you're enjoying!
Never heard of you until your collaboration with The Dungeon Dudes. Loved yalls mini shots. Found you now. See ya have a live play, now I will watch yalls until I finish it or The Fate of Drakkenheim drops, then I'll finish yours in between episodes! Bunch of fun watchin you bud. Very informative n cool as well!
I laughed out loud when you said 'it won't happen again' talking about starting sorcerer. 🤣😂🤣
"Why did you cast prismatic wall horizontally over everyone's head? Are you dumb?"
**Casts reverse gravity**
I would love to hear your thoughts on updating this since Kobolds have been changed re: pack tactics/sunlight sensitivity
I'm a monster:
Critlander: "Try to avoid broad daylight."
Me: "Ah yes, I'll pursue a more specific daylight then."
Narrow Daylight = 👍🏻
Dial up daylight was too slow and it often would go down for no reason. Thank the many gods we upgraded to broadband daylight so much more consistent.
25:34 Thunderball is literally a James Bond movie.
30:49 "Has been passed down for generations in your family" Sooo... someone found it last tuesday?
lol. Poor short-lived Kobolds.
@@DnDDeepDive I mean, they CAN live to be 120. Assuming they don't encounter terrible death.
I love catapult because it only requires somatic components. I don't know why but I'm always looking at the components and thinking of situations where I'm hiding in an illusion or if I'm tied up but not gagged. When I spell just has an S or a v it gets me excited for those weird edge cases
Well, if your goal was to deal pure damage, I think tiefling+flames of phlegethos deserves a special mention and is stronger then the kobold if you can't get pack tactics to trigger. Winged tiefling is obviously broken, but the others from MtoF are decent options. Nowadays you probably want to go custom lineage.
Since you already are a hexblade, you should consider green flame blade. Especially with quicken spell.
I would definitely pick up shield for one of the hexblade spells known.
The two levels of Fighter do wonders to your one round burst damage, but I think they are otherwise pretty lackluster. You have a short rest single target ability from hexblade already, I don't think action surge to burn through your resources quicker is that necessary in actual play. Getting more spells, slots, sorcery points and faster ability score improvements seems more valuable overall. You will be less of a one trick pony overall and still do great damage.
Special mention to magic missile which also does great damage with hexblade's curse in case you need to circumvent fire resistance/immunity or high armor class.
There are a number of easy ways to thwart your calculations in actual play: Sunlight, no ally adjacent (e.g. because the target teleported), opponents near you just to name a few. Just adding a level of hexblade to a fire heavy draconic sorcerer seems much more versatile while giving up very little.
Hey great video. I came back to comment about a similar build I’m playing and last night we had our big boss fight for chapter 1. I’ve been playing a UA Phoenix sorcerer and I’m a tiefling. Doing the same strat with scorching ray + hex + mantle of flame. We’re currently level 4 and during my 3 nova rounds I did 55, 42, and 32 damage. The boss had 15AC. It was crazy doing that much damage. While I don’t get advantage for not being a kobold I love this character and I’m still doing really good in combat. Cant wait for level 5+ :)
Sound awesome!
@@DnDDeepDive Yo you replied! That's awesome! :)
@@MaxMidnight Nah, that dude was an imposter. This one is the real me. >.>
Made my self a Dwarven (Hill), Dragon Sorcerer so he gets good HP every level. 1d6, +1, +1, and a decent Con to start 3 for 1d6+5 HP every level. Colby was watching again and was wondering if it would make sense to take another level of Warlock to get Invocations or the Eldritch Adept Feat to get Devil's Sight? Darkness and Devil's Sight would keep us from having to worry about Sunlight Sensitivity. Also in the sneak peak of Mordenkainen's Guide to the Multiverse (Nerd Emersion Channel) showed kobolds without Sunlight Sensitivity, +2, +1, and No Pact Tactics.
That is grinch build: green draconic sorcerer and Warlock cloak of flies
For the question at ~33min about sunlight sensitivity and blind fighting, I'd say the most intuitively sensible interpretation is that the "that rely on sight" bit applies to both. The context (it's given to races that in the lore have traditionally lived mostly underground), the co-text (the phrasing being in a way that makes it interpretable when, if they wanted to say all attack rolls rather than just sight-reliant ones, they could've easily specified that), and the mechanics (the fact that you don't have to be in direct sunlight, so long as your target is) all point to that. Bright light make eye go aegh
100%
Since Kobold has been changed so much in MotM, I wonder how that would affect this build. No reliable advantage and no need for Blind Fighting could theoretically change the entire build.
MotM makes me want to run a red chromatic Dragonborn dragonic sorcerer instead.
Get resistance to fire naturally instead of having to spend a sorcery point for temp resistance. Then immunity to fire for a minute as an action to nuke yourself with a quickened fireball.
You also get a few uses of the breath weapon to save on spell slots per long rest.
The option to have a sorcerer just coat himself in lingering fire while immune somehow/way and laugh while he has 13 + dex AC is also a funny situation. Then there's taking a dive in lava if the DM allows it, because you are _immune,_ bonus points if you hug an enemy before you dive in.
I’m playing a version of this kobold (currently 11th level in a Red Opera campaign), and last Sunday was the first time firing on all cylinders (5th level Spirit Shroud, Action Surge, two 4th level Scorching Rays): hit AC 22 w 6 out of 10 and 1 crit. Rolled 14d6 + 14d8. Totaled 119 dmg.
Me, before rolling: “I’ll lay down some covering fire.”
Friend, as the last die rolled to a stop: “That wasn't cover fire, I saw that. That was an orbital strike.”
Well done, sir 🔥
That's a solid build. I actually play as a tiefling sorcerer with two core talents: Flames of Phlegethos and Elemental Adept. Basically, whenever I make an attack with fire damage, I have the ability to reroll any 1s that come up on the dice. In the event that I'm unlucky and roll another 1, it is treated as a 2 instead. But that's not all. When I use a fire magic attack, Phlegethos grants me a fire armor that causes anyone who hits me to be lit up and take an additional 1d4 fire damage. And to top it off, I can ignore fire resistance. I absolutely adore this build. If you choose the Draconic Bloodline for your sorcerer, at level 6, you can add your Charisma modifier to every attack made with your ancestral element, resulting in a significant amount of damage per turn.
Just realized that a light domain cleric would also have a pretty solid nova round. Could take metamagic adept to get a few twinned spells or a quickened one or fey touched for more damage at levels 3/4. Would innately have spirit shroud, lots of channel divinity to turn to spell slots, and potentially higher level cleric spells... worth a consideration.
sadly metamagic adept doesn't get you twinned. you'd really have to dip into sorc for that. going light also means not going tempest and you lose out ona lot of dmg on destructive wrath + transmuted scorching ray.
You should do a Twilght Cleric build, it would be awesome
Any twilight cleric will be strong, they're OP
Prioritize Wisdom, don't multiclass, use your Twilight Sanctuary as often as possible. Now you're more defensively powerful than any build ever created. :)
There has never been any other mention of the suns effects on sunlight sensitive creatures other than vision in all of dnd history until now (outside of vampires). Why start now?
I really hope they keep the Way of the Ascendant Dragon in the UA the way it is. Tempest Cleric, three levels of Monk, go anywhere you want after that. It’s the melee version of this and it seems great on paper.
Drizzt Do'Urden, in the books it took him months above ground to get used to the Sunlight.
If you couldn't convince you DM that Blind Fighting would mitigate Sunlight Sensitivity then your best bet is Twilight cleric. It creates 30 foot radius of dim light around you, which will solve all of the problems with sunlight which you could ever had. And Twilight cleric is also absolutely busted support subclass even without that
Does that turn bright light into dim?
@@adventurer3288 Yes. Doesn't matter what it was before total darkness or bright light: everything becomes dim light in this area
As Johnny Storm once said, "FLAME ON!!"
Blind Fighting also gives you blindsight within 10ft so I think that this works regardless.
Spiritual Weapon allows you to add spellcasting ability modifier to attack damage.
That's a much better answer. My brain went to Magic Stone lol
Always excited to watch your newest video! Thank you Colby!
Theoretically spirit shroud could do some crazy damage if you could keep your target at 10 feet like blind fighting suggests
Edit: oops should've finished before commenting
I'm curious if the Pyromancy subclass for Sorcerer's from Kaladesh is a good fit here. It allows you to put out crazy Dave even against fire resistant and eventually immune enemies
I'm using this build in my next one shot! Sounds like it's going to be so much fun!
I wonder if it would be a worthwhile trade, with the forced movement from tempest cleric, to switch the warlock levels to genie and take enough to get spike growth from the Dao list?
Greetings from Austria! Thanks for your Videos, Especially the Sliding into my DMs. I really enjoy it and watched almost all builds you make, especially the Tanky builds.
Would it be possible for you to list your Levelpath in the video description? I tried to build some characters like you and it would be really helpful to have a listing: Which level was skilled in which class.
Keep doing what you are doing! Its really cool stuff you make here!
Danke! I *do* put out written “cheat sheets” for the builds, but it *is* actually the one thing I give as a benefit to members of the channel - here’s a little video I did explaining why if you’re at all interested - I’d love to have you as a member! (it’s pretty cheap : ) ) ruclips.net/video/op_QNygYv3E/видео.html
Kobold with shades. (Smoked glass goggles.)
actually Sean Connelly for this charismatic character is a perfect play RP style.
Note on Catapult: if the target saves, the projectile keeps going to the next viable target in the path of the throw. Just had my wife's wizard Catapult a rock toward the back of the head of the enemy in front of her - it saved, she didn't and took a rock to the face. (Also had a party nearly kill a friendly NPC due to the baddie making the save and the ally being in the projectile's path)
ha ha! ouch!
You sure about that?
In that case every arrow should go through as well doesnt it?
I think there is no such rule in 5e but i as well ruled it like that in a narrow path where the party activated a dart trap^^
@@jomohunter4649 Pretty sure. The wording on the spell in Xanathar's is "The object flies in a straight line up to 90 feet in a direction you choose before falling to the ground, stopping early if it impacts against a solid surface. If the object would strike a creature, that creature must make a Dexterity saving throw. On a failed save, the object strikes the target and stops moving." I take it the same way I would a draconic line of lightning - everything in this line has a chance of taking damage - whereas a single arrow is meant to target just one person.
@@DJWidget in that case i have to agree! Thanks for pointing that out :)
You can also catapult a bag with acid vials or alchemist fire inside it. On failed save they need to save against the substance DC or take additional damage
Next time I see a kobold, I dash. Straight away!
Is there any other reliable way to gain advantage since pack tactics has been essentially removed? How much is the build nerfed without advantage? I was wanting to do a different race concept with this but still focus on the flame throwing aspect.
You can get even more damage with Bestow Curse (+1d8 on every attack) and Hold Monster/Person (crit on every attack that hits).
i personally use the hold option for the concen spot (over spirit shroud/bestow curse/hex) as it adds a control element to it as well.
Right - the only problem with Bestow Curse is the extra round of set up - I love it for fights against a BBEG that you *know* are going long. With the Hold spells, I ultimately decided against because, as they require your concentration and take an action to cast, on your nova round, you'd get half the attacks for double the dice, minus the extra damage from Hex or Spirit Shroud. Also, the crit only counts if you're standing 5 feet away from the Paralyzed target, so you'd now need to get the Crossbow Expert feat to keep advantage. Just got a little weird. Overall might be better damage for your entire party, depending on your party. Worth considering.
@@DnDDeepDive you dont need to use crossbow expert to keep advantage. The disadvantage for "melee" ranged attacks only applies if the enemy isn't incapacitated. The enemy is incapacitated while paralyzed.
Little addendum to the above: you get to keep advantage on "melee" ranged attacks as well if the enemies cant see you like via illusions, obscurement like shadow of moil/fog cloud, blindness and invisibility.
@@TheRobversion1 Good catch on the incapacitated. As for the "enemy can't see you" bit - I just had to look it up in the PHB and somehow never realized that the disadvantage only applies if they can see you. Nice.
@@DnDDeepDive yup. I dont worry about it too much in my experience as optimized ranged martials typically have advantage generators and most advantage generators involve not being "seen."
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I know that you meant the professional basketball team, but I like to imagine that there are competitions where jazz musicians try to out-jazz each other, and Colby screams wildly in attendance.
I would be screaming the loudest.
I’m curious how this build might change if you went with an elvish ancestry so you could use Elven Accuracy for super advantage on all of the rays. What might you suggest to get reliable advantage now that pack tactics is out?
I love the idea of tossing out a fireball action surge toss a lightning ball
“I know, I’m making a sorcerer build and starting sorcerer. It won’t happen again”
Can confirm. Three years later, has never happened lol
I would absolutely watch a remake of Thunderball where Sean Connery is a kobold. Don't have to change anything else or even mention the difference, or have anyone question why a kobold is real or in her majesty's secret service.
Also, what happened with that level 15 font? 🤣
I'd love to see your take on one of my characters that I've really enjoyed playing. His name is Devo. Because he uses a whip. He whips it. Whips it good. He's primarily a fighter with Maneuvers for controlling the battlefield.
lol - on the list!
@@DnDDeepDive I hope you never die because your "list" has to be EPIC at this point. I mean... you comment "on the list" more than once per episode!
@@DnDDeepDive would you also give a take on my version of Aang? Just lvled up to 7 in a current campaign and I am having a blast!
@@kin2naruto Ha ha... it's only... 4 pages long at this point >.> - singe spaced...
@@DnDDeepDive Might be good to go through and see which concepts can be combined - or that you've already done.
And you could role play that your misty step is a actually a smokey step for theme
With tashas optional rules, i made a half orc +2 dex, with draconic resistance and a shield i have 18 ac, and i started as a paladin defence fighting style defence +1, im not wearing any amor and have a Ac of 19, and when my Dex is better will be 21, and with a shield spell just for funzis
I am calling this the "Roy Mustang" class (at least before the cleric levels). Flame spell slinger, going into military service, then doing a few magic no-nos.
The only thing that doesn't work is that Roy doesn't need blind fighting... because of being a kobold.
Maybe his hex object could be the pocket watch? (Not a weapon, but he won't use the weapon skills of the class).
If your DM allows MTG material, I'd look at pyromancer as your sorcerer subclass. Unfortunately 2 fighter/1 hexblade means you never get the 18th level feature that turns fire immunity into resistance.
But, fire shield on a pyromancer is fun, as per the Roy Mustang build by Tulok, which was returning > 30 damage every time it is hit (even without Armor of Agathys).
Burn bright dragon man, burn bright
Permanent advantage option for pack tactics: Purchase a Mastiff and get him some Barding (dog armor), possible to take the Mounted Combatant feat, not necessary, but you will always be within 5 feet of an Ally(Mastiff) and increase your movement speed. Should work for most DM's ruling of an Ally.
Excited for video. Commenting before I watch because I'm slow, and don't want to forget! :)
I’ve seen people point out find familiar as a way to permanently activate pack tactics, and I love the idea of a seeing eye bird on your shoulder.
Love your channel!! Where are you getting the 14 constitution from? To my knowledge, kobold only get the +2 to one ability score and nothing else. Mine as it stands is a 13. Did I miss something?
Good catch! Kobold is one of the only races that doesn't get a second stat boost.
Does you wearing red mean you are switching from.the jazz to the clippers? Haha.
glad to see a nice variation of my force lightning build (shadow sorc 6, 2 fighter, 2 tempest). i went shadow sorc but yeah draconic is a worthy alternative. i went custom lineage with feytouched but yeah kobold is great as well. i'm with you on the kobold sunlight sensitivity ruling.
anyway my only quip here is that RAW destructive wrath applies to all rays. as per JC and the PHB, when you cast scorching ray (unlike attacking with weapons) you resolve all attacks/choose targets at the same time (you can't wait and see if an opponent dies to a ray before sending an extra ray to another target). due to this all the attacks of the spell scorching ray are treated as one instance (because they are happening all at the same time) and therefore all are maximized. all attacks for scorching ray are resolved 1st then dmg resolution for all rays happens together (and this is where you activate destructive wrath).
I'd be curious to see that JC reference...
@@DnDDeepDive I'll try to look for it. i remember reading it with magic missile discussion. i'll link it to you once i find it.
Think you could do a Lycan Blood Hunter burst build with dexterity? I'm trying to figure out how best to build mine and I was wondering what you might do with this idea.
look at Treantmonks videos on them.
Im mostly here to see what you might do with an optimized eldritch knight chasis. Preferably without warlock.
An alternate version that trades some damage for control, versatility, and access to higher level spells: Hexblade 1 for armor, hexblade’s curse, and hex. Then Graviturgist 6 for Scorching Ray, Spirit Shroud, and Gravity Well. Then Fighter 2 for Action Surge. It would require a discussion with the DM, but a fair interpretation of the wording of Gravity Well is that you would get 5 feet of forced moment for every spell attack roll that you land, no saving throw. The direction is unspecified, so that could be straight up - which means you add fall damage to your attack, plus imposing the prone condition. At wizard level six it would be 2d6 bludgeoning for a 20 foot fall if you land all four rays from a third level casting (rather than the flat +4 from Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer’s Elemental Affinity), so not a ton, admittedly. But it would provide some of the forced movement that you liked about the Tempest cleric, add a bit of extra damage, and not sacrifice access to higher level spells from additional multiclassing- in addition to providing all the versatility of a Wizard when you’re not doing the nova round.
the level 3 nova could be a quicken scorching ray and a dragon breath casted earlier.
26d6 + 39d8 + 88 !!!
I had to stop the video, run to my DnDBeyond, and make it roll that just to watch the madness go across my screen. It delighted me how long it took it to calculate the result, even without adding the 88. So, how do know how many times you critted? Anyway… amazing ha ha ha!
Does this mean Kobolds speak with Scottish accents, canonically?
Flames Of Phlegethos, I know you have to be a tiefling but a bonus to fire damage and wreathing yourself in damaging flames? Sounds optimizable to me
If you haven't already you should get on tiktok. There is a HUGE dnd community and seems to be a great way to get your content out there
You know, I *have* a TikTok account, but poor Mr. Rogers was slaving over creating little "shorts" of the weekly vid and it didn't seem to be driving a lot of traffic, from what we could tell. Maybe one day when we can all quit our day jobs...
Love the videos!
Might be playing this in a lvl 20 one-shot!
Thanks!
I would be interested in seeing what those damage numbers look like if you "throw" a flask of oil into the mix...
Wonderful as usual.
Idea: can you do a character who is proficient in all skills, ability checks, and saving throws?
Thanks! On the list :)
Skills is relatively easy on its own but I have a growing fascination with kits and musical instruments and artisan tools but there's almost no utility in game...
Dragons have blindsight so I can see what you are saying at 35:00
I'm running this build up to the warlock. The difference im doing is not optimized but is fun. I went Fathomless for story reasons, im jormungandyr reincarnated. You lose a lot of value for quickened spell because your ba is not your tentacle but it reduces targets hit move speed and can protect you and allies. We have a monk, a rouge, and me so having the tentacle be a sudo front line is helpful
I had an idea for an alternate way to get scorching ray to combine with Thunderous Strike: Order of Scribes Wizard. As per the text of the level 2 Awakened Spellbook ability "When you cast a wizard spell with a spell slot, you can temporarily replace its damage type with a type that appears in your spellbook, which magically alters the spell's formula for this casting only. The latter spell must be of the same level as the spell slot you expend." Getting this to work at every level would require significant investment into your spellbook, but given how easily wizards are usually able to obtain new spells, it seems very feasible (of note is that there isn't a single fifth level spell that does lightning damage, which fucking sucks, but that's just part of the game we play [and I'm sure a lenient DM would be willing to permit a single random homebrew spell that's just flame strike but lightning or something similar]). Doing the combination this way means you only have to do a two level dip into wizard and the six into cleric, giving you fourteen levels to play with as you wish. I think this sounds like a lot of fun, though there are a few disadvantages when compared to the Flame Thrower. I'd still play it this way myself, personally, but maybe that's just me.
> I love the idea of a gold Kobold.
I'd like to introduce you to Goldy, she's very proud of her Gold Teeth.
You could go twilight domain for the cleric and then your twilight sanctuary would remove the sunlight sensitivity as you’d be in dim light at all times it’s in effect. (This could even be done level 1 and 2 to get heavy armor too.)
A great option for those with stingy DMs! :)
The new Bugbear gets an extra 2d6 damage on every attack as long as the target hasn't taken a turn yet in the current combat. It would be cool to see it used for something like this or a Gloom Stalker. Assassin Rogue could give advantage to either build.
Interesting film synopsis for thunder ball. I would have said 007. 🤣
5 seconds later: there it is 😂
Thank you. My love for sorcerers, and more so draconic blodline, is well put on this build.
Thought im not a fan of multiclasing, I do love the idea of the little kobold that could... And will destroy you all
dont forget to add that almost no monsters have resistance to magical weapon attacks
Ehh… you’re still “in” the bright light but I’d allow it since a kobald running around blindfolded like Samurai Jack one shotting a pit fiend is dope as hell. I’d make you train with your dragon mentor to figure it out though.
I knew it . that build is rather bonkers I have thought about it. I thought that spirit shroud was in the sorcerer spells "wizards gets it"
so yeah ... very big damage !!
Would you be willing to do a character inspired by a speedster like the Flash? Optimized for movement speed and number of attacks with both evasion and uncanny dodge?
Will put it on the list :)
@@DnDDeepDive This idea has stuck in my head for some reason. I keep picturing using some combination of rogue with beast barbarian for the extra attack while raging with beast claws at Barb3. But I’m not sure what else (if anything) to mix in to get ideally five attacks per round consistently. Fighter takes too long, dread ambusher Isn’t sustainable...
Maybe Monk? But rogues get better access to evasion and uncanny dodge. I’m really not sure. Can you choose whether you want to use the martial arts die from Monk or the from beast claws? Wording on claws seems like a yes but it wouldn’t count towards your flurry of blows. Would artificer be worth it for non-concentration sources of additional damage per attack?
I don’t know, but hopefully this is something you can help answer.
@@cornycornsnake took a stab at a strong Beast Barb with the Spore Beast if you haven’t seen it yet. Problem with Rogue levels is I don’t believe your claws would count as finesse weapons, though you could still use a finesse weapon and then claws...
@@DnDDeepDive Oh darn, you are right. And I did see your spore beast build already. That’s part of what seeded this idea.
Any chance of a quirky "monk tank" build? I think it would be a fun challenge and really interesting to see what you would come up with! :)
on the list!
I agree with the monk tank build, I think I emailed you saying something about a monk tank but I may have forgot. I know you responded to my email but I don't remember if I actually put monk tank in there, I think you should use either a Satyr or a yuan-ti pureblood as the race
In your divine soul build you don't have to wait to upcast spirit shroud, you can create a 5th level spell slot with sorcery points as soon as you have the spell. Granted that requires sacrificing spell slots for sorcery points, but in the spirit of going nova it must be said.
RAW, "You can never have more sorcery points than shown on the table for your level." so you can't do that till 7th level since it costs 7 sorcery points to make a 5th level spell slot. Still, that's 2 levels early!
After the core of the build is finished, I like the idea of picking up another warlock level, so we can get Agonizing Blast and Eldritch Mind.
EEEEK!!! I'm like #666, and to think your hexblade is what brought me to your channel in the first place! #backbebesatanback #thebloodofChristcompelsyou :D
Better knock on wood and start throwing salt over your shoulder!
Colby, I recently discovered your videos and am working through your entire Optimized play list. I recently through of an interesting character concept for min maxing, out of combat skills. Specifically min maxing for social situations. My idea is Eloquence Bard (so you can actually be a useful support in combat + expertise), use your expertise for Insight and Perception and other Cha skills, take the observant feat. You will have 32 passive perception/insight by lvl 17 and you are going to be out passing almost everyone's deception checks the entire life of the character. In the right campaign it would be super fun and I would love to know your thoughts/what spells you think would hep out with the idea of min maxing for social situations.
Have got it on the list!
I'd add in classes that either give you bonuses to your social skills or penalties to their insight checks. here's some to consider:
fey wanderer: guidance, otherworldly glamour
diviner: portent
rune knight: fire rune/frost rune, storm rune
fiend: dark one's own luck, pact of the talisman
wild sorc: tides of chaos, bend luck, subtle spell
aberrant mind: psionic sorcery, subtle spell
divine soul: guidance, subtle spell
soul knife: psi-bolstered knack
samurai: elegant courtier
stars druid: guidance, cosmic omen
artificer: flash of genius
imo the wild sorc brings the most to a multiclass but some people hate wild magic so i'd consider aberrant mind or divine soul as well. being able to casts spells in social situations will be very useful.
@@TheRobversion1 I was doing some more pondering over this class and I remembered that you want at least 3 levels into College of Eloquence Bard for the Silver Tough feature (treat roles of 9 or less as 10s for Persuasion and Deception). I do love your idea of going into sorc after that for subtle spell.
@@Strefz17 yup. that's how i envision it. taking at least 3 eloquence then either 3 sorc or 6 aberrant mind then up to you how you want to progress from there. i also like the idea that with aberrant mind you have easy access to telepathic communication for social situations.
I understand this (and your other builds) are built from level 1. Are there any changes you would make if you started at a higher level?
Draconic-Kobold is perfectly reasonable. Just look at Donkey and the Dragon from Shrek for inspiration!
You should consider getting empowered spell. It is dirt cheap to use and you can decide whether to use it or not AFTER you see the rolls on your spell (even if you already used some metamagic), meaning that you can use it when you cast a fireball and see 2 or 3 bad rolls for easily an extra 20 to 50 damage across all targets. I even use it on scorching ray sometimes as dealing an extra 10 to 15 damage is a great deal for a single sorcery point. It is far more useful than quickened spell at lower levels and even at higher levels you will find yourself using it a lot.
Or, here's the better take that I'd have if I was DM'ing for someone who wanted to play Kobold than allowing your blindsight tactic: 'Sunlight sensitivty is BS so just pretend that doesn't exist'.
But then I'm also someone who would let anyone who wanted to play barbarian either play a half-orc (mechanically) and reskin it as whatever they wanted for the RP, or, without much persuasion needed (because, and I'll acknowledge my bias as someone who loves barbarian+3 dip into fighter for champion greataxe half orcs) let them take savage attacks somehow (as a homebrew feat, trading it for another racial ability etc), so maybe I'd also be a bit too generous to allowing cool stuff.
If I'm doubling down on fire damage with sorcerer I tend to start with the Pyromancer sorcerer in the Plane Shift Kaladesh pdf. Pick green flame blade and firebolt among your starting cantrips.
After a few levels of sorcerer take either 3 or 6 levels of celestial warlock. Pick tome pact, and get a CHA shillelagh. Seriously consider going to 6th level for the feature that adds your Cha mod to fire and radiant spells.
Stack the feats war caster, polearm master, and maybe flames of phlegethos if you're a tiefling. Get a staff and use it to deliver green flame blades on your opportunity attacks.
Take sorcerer the rest of the way, or take a 2 level detour into paladin for armor, shields, smites, a single level increase to your sorcerer caster levels, and a fighting style.
If magic items are on the table get illusionist bracers and cast green flame blade up to 3 times every round depending on enemy movement.
I did the math once for a level 6 pyro sorc/6 celestial lock green flame blade with polearm master and war caster. If you get the main attack and the opportunity attack you roll about as many d8's as a similar level rogue would roll d6's on sneak attack, plus you add your cha mod 2 to 4 times on each target. If you add those 2 levels of paladin you're then free to burn sorc and lock spell slots on smite for more d8's.
The upside of this over hexblade and dragon sorc is you're freed up to pick non blade pact invocations, you have a lot more healing options, and when you inevitably face a fire immune enemy your radiant spells are a reliable option.
I've done a similar build, but instead of going kobold, I went with Tiefling.
Flames of Phlegethos racial feat effectively gives you a free empowered spell metamagic on all fire spells with no sorc point cost, and helps you out if you even get caught in melee by making it less appealing to hit you (as you get a mini fireshield)
I debated either going 6 levels of Hexblade warlock to pick up med armor prof, Hexblade's Curse, Spirit Shroud, Armor of Agathys and Eldritch Smite (I was playing a Gish)
Transmute and upcast Spirit Shroud from cold to fire
Transmute AoA from cold to fire
And run around point blank blasting scorching ray in people's faces while being a living fireball
Hey, I'd love to see a whispers bard build if you're up for it. The class never see's a lot of love but I really enjoy the flavour of it.
here's the level 10 spread of a one-shot booming blader whispers bard i played:
3 rune knight, 5 whispers, 2 grave cleric
i can explain more if interested.
Check out the Lockadin if you haven’t yet. It’s not *really* a Whispers Bard build, but by the end it actually has more Whispers levels than anything :P (it’s also the build I’m playing in our current campaign!)
Should do an update for this considering MotM.
I came here wondering for ways to use Jim's magic missle, a spell that I think might have some potential as a Better eldritch blast...