I never realised I could identify as goth. I always felt like one, but the fashion aspect seemed so inseparable, and I was never into that expressive, extremely black & white look, it seemed too much. Moreover, I could never afford it. But I felt SO many amazing things, when I started listening to Depeche Mode! I suddenly realised I could create my own image, that would make me feel like me. It was a HUGE step. And it didn't even matter that I don't have the money to dress myself differently, the new music I found was everything, it fulfilled me. I've found lots of bands since then, and it's really mostly darker stuff, since I've always been drawn to darker stuff. I've never had a proper name to it, to this habit, preference of mine. Now it's clear as day, that I've been goth all this time. :)
As a fresh baby bat, thank you so much! This helped quite a bit and your words comforted me a lot Been doing a ton of research and I feel the goth subculture is really something I relate to so thank you!
All I see with people that name themselves as 'goth' are people that try far to hard to fit in with the sub-culture. If you go back to the 80's, goths weren't actually so over the top, I mean look at Robert Smith, his image was and is still nothing like what people might class as goth. My mum is 49 and she says that back in the days when her and my dad and their friends were classed as 'goths', a goth was basically any person who wore darker clothes and listened to goth/post-punk bands. Basically what I'm saying is that nowadays I think goth is overdramatised, most people I know who are starting out in the sub-culture (early to late teens) try far far far too hard and are constantly almost trying to prove that they're goth when the sub-culture is based off of music and the clothing and style is just a separate component of that. That's just my opinion anyway, I mean no offence to anyone :)
i agree with you! i love the goth fashions from the 70s and such. simplistic but still different and interesting. but hey, as long as goths now are comfortable and love how they dress then best wishes to them!
+Kai_Decadence well, i think youth culture derived from music is basically dying out due to the accessibility of music now and days. what was once something special to an elitist can be accessed by anyone at a touch of a finger tip. it seems like all youth culture now is fashion based i.e. cos players etc.... it's kind of sad, really
Robert Smiths image wasn't goth because he isn't goth;) goth is just an expression of individuality, I mean there are goths that are over the top and there are weekenders and there are more toned down ones. It's what ever makes them happy. I'm sure some baby bats feel like they have to go all out to be "goth enough", though.
I hate when musicians get offended by being described as goth. Goth... really is just a word to describe something dark. Like a book about murder in the dreary depressing Victorian times gets called a gothic novel. A building that is creepy looking is described as being gothic. In a way, goth is just another word for dark and there is nothing wrong with that. They probably deny being goth out of modesty. They dont wanna act like they are a part of some sort of fad or group.
Well there are certain characteristics that classify a gothic novel or gothic architecture. I guess jane eyre is kind of dark but yes being dark is what goth is, and I think its more than just music
I’m a man who’s 44 years old. I’ve seen the development and changes in the scene. Yes, it all started with Punk, there’s no doubt about that! But Punk was socially and politically related and was all based on anarchy. The most bands in the beginning brought aggressive and rebellious music. They were almost against everything in this world, couldn’t stand each other and brought chaos. The next episode, which is more the foundation of now days Gothic music, where very dark but at the same time more realistic and stood with they’re both feet on the ground. There were still some sparks of rebellion, anti-commercial and a bit anti-politic parts left in the music but with a complete different view and expression. More and more bands made music about social conflicts and actual problems (like, for example the cold war and the upcoming atomic energy and weapons). But, even the music was dark and for many people depressive and negative, the only statement was to confront the world with the reality in the eighty’s. On the other hand, aggression disappeared in the music, between the bands and also the fans of this culture. This culture had different names all over the world, from post-punk, new wave, dark wave and also for the first time, some bands used the name Gothic! I don’t want to upset anyone, but you could called it also soft-punk for hippies. Sorry for my words but I use these terms, trying to explain the difference. The music made statements about what was going on in the world but in a more “mature” way without any form of aggression. The first Goths where born! And I remember them as a non violent, respectful, peaceful but well informed kind of people. Freedom of speech, respect for expression and respect for each other’s choice of preferred bands and music. Respect for expression was also for the way they represented themselves , with make-up, without make-up, hairstyle and clothing’s. One thing we shared was our favorite color, namely black (sometimes combined with a touch of another color). And, actually, since then, not much is changed! Of course there are a lot off new bands, each with their own sound. But the basics are still very much comparable with what I’ve seen through the years. I myself never used make-up, I do restyle my hair when I go to a party and I’m still dressed in black. I don’t follow the mainstream basics like fashion, hairstyles, home decoration, or whatever you see in popular magazines, the internet and television commercials. I do speak about my interpretation of all day’s things, but if I see and hear other’s don’t agree with me and find my way of thinking and living as not social, mainstream, crazy, weird or whatever, I remain silent. I’m will never fight against others opinions but if it those not fit in my life, I will not follow. And if they blame me for that, then they have a problem, not me, because I don’t care. Manly all Goth’s I know have an equal point of view and act more or less the same way. And in my opinion, that’s what being a Goth stands for. Fact is that younger Goth’s more often dress up and use make-up the way we know it. And I have only respect for them! It’s beautiful and sometimes I also wear clothes or accessories from the Gothic store. And I try also, from time to time, the more impressive pieces but if they don’t fit me, I don’t buy them. And after all, I’m respected by other Goth’s, even the “real dressed up”! And that is why this culture is so beautiful too me since years! I probably am and shall die like a true Goth! It’s in my heart and veins! Sorry for the errors I’ve made in this text. I’m from Belgium and only trying to do my best in English. Make love, enjoy the darkness and live your own life! Greetings! Unidentif (aka Don D. Nivaro) X
Goths can listen to any music genre but would be necessary if the lyrics is somewhat goth related as gothic rock isnt the only goth music genre, there are tons of it.
I have always loved alot of the subculture and really got into it quite a bit when I was younger. But the music was always a bit of an issue for me since that seems to be where the biggest snobs and elitists are. I mean don't get me wrong I like Joy Division but can we quite badmouthing anything that is is not 40 years old? I mean my musical taste has largely moved on to stuff like symphonic metal with very dark and decidedly gothic style but many self described goths (particularly of my generation) look down on it because it does not sound like something popular and relevant 4 decades ago. Sad to say but if a subculture identifies strongly to it's music if it wants to stay relevant so does the music.
My approach to the music is similar. Genres I'd recommend to anyone who's curious: gothic rock and darkwave. Starter bands that are post-punk and alternative rock who can introduce the sounds: Siouxsie and the Banshees, Joy Division, Bauhaus and the Cure. Then there's gothic metal and deathrock. Fashion faves: traditional, Victorian. Excellent authors and films that you chose.
I love your cure collage/poster in the background !!! Sorry but I'm obsessed with the cure 😂 btw your hair looks really nice, you kind of remind me of Siouxsie Sioux style wise lol
Serena Apellido someone pointed it out to me..and I like horror movies black and the way goths dress and dark makeup. I'm fascinated by how people may die or what happens when they do. Lol but I'm only 13 but yea 😂 I thought I was more towards Emo,but I seem to relate more to goth. I might try getting into the culture.
Viv • Oh, I was just saying goth has evolved since then and I’m sure there are goths who base their identity more off their fashion and lifestyle than the music and I think they’re valid too.
Two of my favorite bands are Caifanes and Indochine. They are from Mexico and France, respectively. Both of them heavily borrowed their style of music and fashion from The Cure in their early years. In fact, I once saw a photo of Caifanes' lead singer wearing a Joy Division t-shirt!
Iris Freddie Mercury Rock'n'Roll Girl! Punk's not dead it just deserves to die when it becomes another stale cartoon... A close-minded, self-centered social club, ideas don't matter, it's who you know.
First of all, thank you for all of the references and links in the description! It's really helping me, as a beginner, get myself into the subculture. Also, your skin looks great!
I consider myself what I like to call a "Suttle goth". I am a natural blonde and I don't intend to dye my hair black to fit goth expectations, even though I have cut it a bit like yours, because I liked it. I have a very mixed up playlist and im not just keeping the goth ones to fit the streotype. I do wear black and studded bracelts but I wear couler aswell, and basically do my makeup similar to yours. I love the goth lifestyle 😁
When I first started looking into the subculture i made some realizations 1. Goths find beauty in darker things, so.... I've always been goth, I guess 2. It's not spiritual(unless u make it that way) 3. ME AND MY FAMILY HAVE BEEN UNKNOWINGLY LISTENING TO "GOTH" MUSIC ALL OUR LIVES!!!(ESPECIALLY deep he mode and the cure)
I am looking around a lot of other youtubeing goths and no one has mentioned Voltaire this makes me kinda sad....I think everyone should listen to what they want but Voltaire has not been mentioned on the last 20 or so video's I have watched....welp other than that I like that you are well educated in the culture and you are able to inform everyone
i'm still learning about the subculture because i'm planning to become goth when i grow up to a teen, so there's probably alot of goth bands i don't know about.
I just started in the goth sun-culture and this really helped me understand were goth came from and it helped me feel more my-self than someone else if u know what I mean anyway I love ur make-up so much and I'm defo going to subscribe
None of these bands started out like oh we are starting a Goth band. They became part of the subculture because of darker themes in their music and spooky, cloak and dagger image. I personally don't see the problem with being labelled Gothic. Perhaps with the traditional, more popular post punk/'goth' bands it's just a need to be diverse and not wanting to be boxed in? The bands mentioned in this video are however all a huge influence on the Goth scene and it's a long standing joke with Andrew 'I'm not a goth' Eldritch denying his musical influence has anything to do with the scene, most people I know just laugh when they hear that. Just listen to First and last and Always and Floodland, both albums definitely have a very dark, haunting Gothic atmosphere on them. Most alternative, post punk fans I know don't have a problem being called Gothic, I just embrace it now as do my friends 🤗👻
People may not like me for saying this but I always thought that goth was also about being unique. Correct me if I am wrong. It kind of offends me that people make these videos that tell you what to wear and who to listen to and how to look in order to be considered goth. I don't know but that sounds pretty conformist to me. Where is the individuality? I feel like these are made by people who just like to hear themselves talk.
I think it's more like tips for people who want to be Goth but don't know really where to start n dnt kno any history/dnt have goth friends... plus when that person go n listen to the music suggested by said person,they can dictated wheather they like those bands..but if they dont they can dig deeper like how if u click on one band you have recomended bands. or they can be like me and just see what other people like and maybe see/hear bands new bands that idk that i might potientionally might like..just see it as back in the day youd see someone cool/or dresses like you n u might want to approach them n get kno more about what they like. its like sharing i guess but at the end of the day if u dnt like sum of there style/music tips then u can find other things...and sooner or later theyll find there own stuff they like that may/may not be suggested by many ppl.
+Ashleigh Warrender umm wouldnt you be conforming to be a "goth" anyway? if you want to embrace your individuality than dont try to categorize yourself. i mean, otherwise the bum down the street would be considered a goth.
I've just started reading Anne Rice's "Vampire Chronicles" which is amazing. My favorite goth band would definitely be Siouxsie and the Banshees. But even if one is goth, doesn't mean they have to just listen to Gothic bands. I also love bands such as Florence and the Machine, Fleetwood Mac, The Script, and The Fray.
Before I watch the video, let me share my view of goth: Elegant Macabre And scorpio-vibes You love reading old and almost dark poems, Edgar Allen Poe for example. You listen to instrumental music that would have been quite the hit in the 18th century. Classical and opera music is also a big thing. An example of a favourite author would be Stephen King. Dark and classy as a style, but enjoys the comfort of baggy and black clothes. Intercut patterns and philosophical. Love the dark things in life and appreciate the light things. We'll see if I am correct or if my view is wrong once I watched the video.
this is really helpful !!!! I often get accused of being "not goth enough" because I have brightly colored hair instead of black, and I don't have a large amount of goth clothes. It's so difficult to build a wardrobe because decent goth clothes can be soooooo expensive ://
I am a metal head but I love bauhaus. Stigmata martyr and other songs from them i also also like other goth bands too I know goth evolved from post- punk I do
I would say that the album Pornography is the cures most important contribution to goth. Some of the more unknown "goth"music i like is the early work of Cocteau Twins and My bloody valentine. Both were gothic and became the pioneers of Shoegaze.
i'm a babybat and this is very helpful !! I tell myself not to be fully 100% into the subculture since I'm also a metalhead so I'm part of two subcultures, I also have a low self-esteem so ellists make me feel very unvalidated 😞😞I'm 4 months into it and my goth playlist is almost 10 hours long ! (iI adore the music so much :3)
I massively enjoyed this video and got alot of helpful tips ^^ I also really like the notion that you don't need to conform to one specific genre or subculture if you're in to more of them, I think that's a point that doesn't get made too much. Which is kinda funny since alternative music and subcultures basically exist as a sort of rebellion against conformity :p Oh, well. I dress in clothes that make me feel awesome, confident and comfortable, I do my make up accordingly and listen to whatever music I like at the moment, but I still identify as goth, and I think that's okay :)
Some personal music choices: Pretentious, Moi? (self titled), Solemn Novena (Kiss The Girls), The Birthday Massacre (all), Saigon Blue Rain, Lovelorn Dolls (Japanese Robot Invasion), Clan Of Xymox (older stuff), Ashengrace, The Flir, Love Spirals Downwards (Idylls, Ardor), Autumn's Grey Solace (Riverine, etc.), Winter Severity Index, Mercury's Antennae, Tearwave (Different Shade Of Beauty), The Eden House (Smoke & Mirrors), The Frozen Autumn,, Ballet School, Night Sins (London Or The Lake), Pulcher Femina (Shadows Of Lovers), Ashbury Heights, Saigon Blue Rain, Bella Lune, Artesia, Drab Majesty, Asylum Party, Lycia (Tripping Back Into The Broken Days, Cold), Warmline (Sad), The Last Dance, Envinity (Sweet Painful Reality), Lacuna Coil (Unleashed Memories, etc. not newer stuff), Paris Burning (a few demos), Seduced By Suicide (couple tracks off ep), Depeche Mode Covers
I'm glad you made clear at one point about the difference between Death Rock and Goth Rock. Death rock was actually a form of punk. Goth has a more British glam mix to Death rock, like David Bowie and Specimen
All my children went through this phase. A fortune on makeup and clothes, hair color, Hot Topic, screamo and other concerts. And, oh, the drama. Thank goodness it’s over. We have much laughter over the photos these days. Your makeup is perfection. 🥰
i mainly like rap and metal/rock of all sorts and i like industrial metal and things of that sort which sound dark plus i like black so i might get into this soon
the only Author you mentioned that I didn't know was Mathew Gregory but how you described the book sounds amazing and Anne Rice is my absolute favorite Author and I love H.P. Lovecraft as well!
so everyone calls me goth and it dossent bother me. i mean, i have long black hair, am pale and love dark makeup. i love poetry and just kinda twisted things. idk if my music is considerd goth. like i love marilyn manson, rod zombie and more metal type music. but i also love panic! at the dosco, falling in reverse and black veil brides. i want at least 2 tattoos and have a few peircings in mind...so am i goth?
Carlie Whittemore How you present yourself doesn't really matter. The culture itself is based on the music. Don't get too caught up in labels, though. Just be happy with who you are.
Ravlei I dont really care what im percived as, i like my style the way it is. i personally find labels degrading, thank you much for answering my comment, i didnt expect an answer
Some personal music choices: Pretentious, Moi? (self titled), Solemn Novena (Kiss The Girls), The Birthday Massacre (all), Saigon Blue Rain, Lovelorn Dolls (Japanese Robot Invasion), Clan Of Xymox (older stuff), Ashengrace, The Flir,, Love Spirals Downwards (Idylls, Ardor), Autumn's Grey Solace (Riverine, etc.), Winter Severity Index, Mercury's Antennae, Tearwave (Different Shade Of Beauty), The Eden House (Smoke & Mirrors), The Frozen Autumn,, Ballet School, Night Sins (London Or The Lake), Pulcher Femina (Shadows Of Lovers), Ashbury Heights, Saigon Blue Rain, Bella Lune, Artesia, Drab Majesty, Asylum Party, Lycia (Tripping Back Into The Broken Days, Cold), Warmline (Sad), The Last Dance, Envinity (Sweet Painful Reality), Lacuna Coil (Unleashed Memories, etc. not newer stuff), Paris Burning (a few demos), Seduced By Suicide (couple tracks off ep), Depeche Mode Covers
I am really inspired by your video. I want to be a goth but I love my life. My friends are making fun of me for wearing eyeliner (just like you!) but because I want to be a goth I just tell them to sod off!. Thank you for giving me strengh to overcome those bullies and I love your tumblr
This is a great video! I've had a love of the goth culture (all aspects of it) since I was a teenager! I love the music (darkwave, gothic rock/80s, etc), the various fashions, and I adore gothic literature. Aside from Anne Rice, it's almost all I read xD My favs being the Portrait of Dorian Gray and Wuthering Heights. I love how you keep this simple though. Thanks!
I'm not goth, but if you want to get into goth music I recommend Depeche Mode "Violator" album. I think it's something anyone will enjoy. Also, just a song I love right now is "And I" by Wolfsheim. Just listen to it and fall in love with it.
Broken Apart, Put Back Together Do you your own thing. Fuck elitist types, they're a bunch of moody eejits. I've been into the Goth thing for over 20 years, I was originally into grunge rock and metal. There are no rules to being you 🤗
actually I was back in Portsmouth, England in 1977 there was Goth, Punk and Emo music as well as fashion. Although it was a mix of the music and fashion. A bit of biker leather with the Goth and the Punk was more of colored hair with more blue jeans. All of them use to wear steel toe boots mostly some punks did wear sneakers. Although most of the bands back then did records but those records were mostly distributed by the bands theirself (like a few groups here in America for example like God's Girlfriend, Voodoo Glow Skull, Dead Kennedy's, Skinny Puppy, DMZ, Salt & Pepper, Pink, Will Smith before they got discovered).
Seventeen seconds oh my god, you people should see me and my mom together listening to The Cure haha, so lovely when your mom has the same taste in music
I’m just here Bc I really like the music! The style isn’t my taste but i love when other people wear it💃✨ but I really am here for the music I heard a “goth” song by Kim Dracula and I really want to learn more about that music 💖 if you have any recommendations I would really love them🕺
I never realised I could identify as goth. I always felt like one, but the fashion aspect seemed so inseparable, and I was never into that expressive, extremely black & white look, it seemed too much. Moreover, I could never afford it. But I felt SO many amazing things, when I started listening to Depeche Mode! I suddenly realised I could create my own image, that would make me feel like me. It was a HUGE step. And it didn't even matter that I don't have the money to dress myself differently, the new music I found was everything, it fulfilled me. I've found lots of bands since then, and it's really mostly darker stuff, since I've always been drawn to darker stuff. I've never had a proper name to it, to this habit, preference of mine. Now it's clear as day, that I've been goth all this time. :)
Feline Feline conformist.
Same but I'm like 43 %goth
Symphony No. 5 same
I went from emo to goth so I’m here :-)
As a fresh baby bat, thank you so much! This helped quite a bit and your words comforted me a lot
Been doing a ton of research and I feel the goth subculture is really something I relate to so thank you!
my mom saw Siouxsie and Robert Smith perform TOGETHER at a concert- she was so lucky. she is also where I get my music taste from. (:
she has also seen Bauhaus, Joy Division, Depeche Mode, The Psychedelic Furs, and Echo and the Bunnymen.
Dang. Soo jealous of her that’s awesome
All I see with people that name themselves as 'goth' are people that try far to hard to fit in with the sub-culture. If you go back to the 80's, goths weren't actually so over the top, I mean look at Robert Smith, his image was and is still nothing like what people might class as goth. My mum is 49 and she says that back in the days when her and my dad and their friends were classed as 'goths', a goth was basically any person who wore darker clothes and listened to goth/post-punk bands. Basically what I'm saying is that nowadays I think goth is overdramatised, most people I know who are starting out in the sub-culture (early to late teens) try far far far too hard and are constantly almost trying to prove that they're goth when the sub-culture is based off of music and the clothing and style is just a separate component of that. That's just my opinion anyway, I mean no offence to anyone :)
i agree with you! i love the goth fashions from the 70s and such. simplistic but still different and interesting. but hey, as long as goths now are comfortable and love how they dress then best wishes to them!
+Kai_Decadence I feel the same way! im glad im not the only one who thought that lol
the original Goth was really just being a mix of all the styles in you're own way. so Goth is being yourself, showing who you are.//
+Kai_Decadence well, i think youth culture derived from music is basically dying out due to the accessibility of music now and days. what was once something special to an elitist can be accessed by anyone at a touch of a finger tip. it seems like all youth culture now is fashion based i.e. cos players etc.... it's kind of sad, really
Robert Smiths image wasn't goth because he isn't goth;) goth is just an expression of individuality, I mean there are goths that are over the top and there are weekenders and there are more toned down ones. It's what ever makes them happy. I'm sure some baby bats feel like they have to go all out to be "goth enough", though.
Skeletal Family is a wonderful Goth band!
i agree
Your so pretty! So jealous of your hair
You can be like her...
your so pretty as well ^_^
Right? What do they do to tease their hair to be so textured? I want that
I hate when musicians get offended by being described as goth. Goth... really is just a word to describe something dark. Like a book about murder in the dreary depressing Victorian times gets called a gothic novel. A building that is creepy looking is described as being gothic. In a way, goth is just another word for dark and there is nothing wrong with that. They probably deny being goth out of modesty. They dont wanna act like they are a part of some sort of fad or group.
Well there are certain characteristics that classify a gothic novel or gothic architecture. I guess jane eyre is kind of dark but yes being dark is what goth is, and I think its more than just music
Especially when their genre of music is goth
I’m a man who’s 44 years old. I’ve seen the development and changes in the scene. Yes, it all started with Punk, there’s no doubt about that! But Punk was socially and politically related and was all based on anarchy. The most bands in the beginning brought aggressive and rebellious music. They were almost against everything in this world, couldn’t stand each other and brought chaos. The next episode, which is more the foundation of now days Gothic music, where very dark but at the same time more realistic and stood with they’re both feet on the ground. There were still some sparks of rebellion, anti-commercial and a bit anti-politic parts left in the music but with a complete different view and expression. More and more bands made music about social conflicts and actual problems (like, for example the cold war and the upcoming atomic energy and weapons). But, even the music was dark and for many people depressive and negative, the only statement was to confront the world with the reality in the eighty’s. On the other hand, aggression disappeared in the music, between the bands and also the fans of this culture. This culture had different names all over the world, from post-punk, new wave, dark wave and also for the first time, some bands used the name Gothic! I don’t want to upset anyone, but you could called it also soft-punk for hippies. Sorry for my words but I use these terms, trying to explain the difference. The music made statements about what was going on in the world but in a more “mature” way without any form of aggression. The first Goths where born! And I remember them as a non violent, respectful, peaceful but well informed kind of people. Freedom of speech, respect for expression and respect for each other’s choice of preferred bands and music. Respect for expression was also for the way they represented themselves , with make-up, without make-up, hairstyle and clothing’s. One thing we shared was our favorite color, namely black (sometimes combined with a touch of another color). And, actually, since then, not much is changed! Of course there are a lot off new bands, each with their own sound. But the basics are still very much comparable with what I’ve seen through the years. I myself never used make-up, I do restyle my hair when I go to a party and I’m still dressed in black. I don’t follow the mainstream basics like fashion, hairstyles, home decoration, or whatever you see in popular magazines, the internet and television commercials. I do speak about my interpretation of all day’s things, but if I see and hear other’s don’t agree with me and find my way of thinking and living as not social, mainstream, crazy, weird or whatever, I remain silent. I’m will never fight against others opinions but if it those not fit in my life, I will not follow. And if they blame me for that, then they have a problem, not me, because I don’t care. Manly all Goth’s I know have an equal point of view and act more or less the same way. And in my opinion, that’s what being a Goth stands for. Fact is that younger Goth’s more often dress up and use make-up the way we know it. And I have only respect for them! It’s beautiful and sometimes I also wear clothes or accessories from the Gothic store. And I try also, from time to time, the more impressive pieces but if they don’t fit me, I don’t buy them. And after all, I’m respected by other Goth’s, even the “real dressed up”! And that is why this culture is so beautiful too me since years! I probably am and shall die like a true Goth! It’s in my heart and veins! Sorry for the errors I’ve made in this text. I’m from Belgium and only trying to do my best in English. Make love, enjoy the darkness and live your own life! Greetings! Unidentif (aka Don D. Nivaro) X
Here's a fun idea: dress how you want to dress, listen to whatever bands you want and don't try to fit a label!
Jenn B yeet
STFU
Goths can listen to any music genre but would be necessary if the lyrics is somewhat goth related as gothic rock isnt the only goth music genre, there are tons of it.
I mean as long as you’re listening to goth music alongside everything else, sure.
If you dont understand what shes trying to say then dont watch the video lmfaooo this is about goths.
Those robert posters 😌
The Damned is another great band. Energetic and a goth feel. Their early stuff is mainline punk, but their 80s stuff is vampire-esq.
Omg The Cure! I love your wall decor of The Cure
I have always loved alot of the subculture and really got into it quite a bit when I was younger. But the music was always a bit of an issue for me since that seems to be where the biggest snobs and elitists are. I mean don't get me wrong I like Joy Division but can we quite badmouthing anything that is is not 40 years old? I mean my musical taste has largely moved on to stuff like symphonic metal with very dark and decidedly gothic style but many self described goths (particularly of my generation) look down on it because it does not sound like something popular and relevant 4 decades ago. Sad to say but if a subculture identifies strongly to it's music if it wants to stay relevant so does the music.
You are absolutely gorgeous and so helpful. New subscriber definitely
+CanYouNot same
+CanYouNot samee
My approach to the music is similar. Genres I'd recommend to anyone who's curious: gothic rock and darkwave. Starter bands that are post-punk and alternative rock who can introduce the sounds: Siouxsie and the Banshees, Joy Division, Bauhaus and the Cure. Then there's gothic metal and deathrock.
Fashion faves: traditional, Victorian.
Excellent authors and films that you chose.
I love your cure collage/poster in the background !!! Sorry but I'm obsessed with the cure 😂 btw your hair looks really nice, you kind of remind me of Siouxsie Sioux style wise lol
I'm kind of goth but I like metal and hard rock music... does that make me not goth?
You don't have to listen to Gothic music. Just be yourself. If you believe your a goth, your a goth.
if you like rock do you know skillet because I do
I love skillet and flyleaf!
Serena Apellido someone pointed it out to me..and I like horror movies black and the way goths dress and dark makeup. I'm fascinated by how people may die or what happens when they do. Lol but I'm only 13 but yea 😂 I thought I was more towards Emo,but I seem to relate more to goth. I might try getting into the culture.
Kiwipiwi same!
You cant be goth without liking goth music.
oh look a poser
Hmm, I’m sure that’s not entirely true. That sounds like a very elitist perspective, mate. But, I wouldn’t mind to hear if it’s not.
Izstrella isn’t goth a music based subculture? How is what they said elitist?
bunny fluffs how are they a poser
Viv • Oh, I was just saying goth has evolved since then and I’m sure there are goths who base their identity more off their fashion and lifestyle than the music and I think they’re valid too.
Two of my favorite bands are Caifanes and Indochine. They are from Mexico and France, respectively. Both of them heavily borrowed their style of music and fashion from The Cure in their early years. In fact, I once saw a photo of Caifanes' lead singer wearing a Joy Division t-shirt!
Punks not dead.
Rosie the Resister PUNK IS JUST SLEEPIN DRUNK!!!
OIIIIIIIIIII WE ARE STILL ALIVE!
Iris Freddie Mercury Rock'n'Roll Girl!
Punk's not dead it just deserves to die when it becomes another stale cartoon...
A close-minded, self-centered social club, ideas don't matter, it's who you know.
I love all the baby bat videos. They're all really helping me, and I do appreciate them!
Im not gothic but I like your fashion. Beautiful clothes and make up, good music.
First of all, thank you for all of the references and links in the description! It's really helping me, as a beginner, get myself into the subculture. Also, your skin looks great!
I consider myself what I like to call a "Suttle goth". I am a natural blonde and I don't intend to dye my hair black to fit goth expectations, even though I have cut it a bit like yours, because I liked it. I have a very mixed up playlist and im not just keeping the goth ones to fit the streotype. I do wear black and studded bracelts but I wear couler aswell, and basically do my makeup similar to yours. I love the goth lifestyle 😁
As someone who is not goth, I actually really love your look.
When I first started looking into the subculture i made some realizations
1. Goths find beauty in darker things, so.... I've always been goth, I guess
2. It's not spiritual(unless u make it that way)
3. ME AND MY FAMILY HAVE BEEN UNKNOWINGLY LISTENING TO "GOTH" MUSIC ALL OUR LIVES!!!(ESPECIALLY deep he mode and the cure)
I am looking around a lot of other youtubeing goths and no one has mentioned Voltaire this makes me kinda sad....I think everyone should listen to what they want but Voltaire has not been mentioned on the last 20 or so video's I have watched....welp other than that I like that you are well educated in the culture and you are able to inform everyone
You are so beautiful!! Your hair & makeup is flawless. Also I love your Cure collage on the wall 😍😍
i'm still learning about the subculture because i'm planning to become goth when i grow up to a teen, so there's probably alot of goth bands i don't know about.
Ohh my god, she looks like young Susie and that's so cute.
Idk why but when I look at u I can't help but think of marceline the vampire queen do but ur really gorgeous
I was heavily into Depeche Mode when I was very young. XD if you're getting into goth music I suggest them.
I love DM !
Love love love Depeche Mode 💕
I just started in the goth sun-culture and this really helped me understand were goth came from and it helped me feel more my-self than someone else if u know what I mean anyway I love ur make-up so much and I'm defo going to subscribe
None of these bands started out like oh we are starting a Goth band. They became part of the subculture because of darker themes in their music and spooky, cloak and dagger image. I personally don't see the problem with being labelled Gothic. Perhaps with the traditional, more popular post punk/'goth' bands it's just a need to be diverse and not wanting to be boxed in? The bands mentioned in this video are however all a huge influence on the Goth scene and it's a long standing joke with Andrew 'I'm not a goth' Eldritch denying his musical influence has anything to do with the scene, most people I know just laugh when they hear that. Just listen to First and last and Always and Floodland, both albums definitely have a very dark, haunting Gothic atmosphere on them. Most alternative, post punk fans I know don't have a problem being called Gothic, I just embrace it now as do my friends 🤗👻
Gurl im loving everything about ur vid. I dont feel weird anymore.
People may not like me for saying this but I always thought that goth was also about being unique. Correct me if I am wrong. It kind of offends me that people make these videos that tell you what to wear and who to listen to and how to look in order to be considered goth. I don't know but that sounds pretty conformist to me. Where is the individuality? I feel like these are made by people who just like to hear themselves talk.
I think it's more like tips for people who want to be Goth but don't know really where to start n dnt kno any history/dnt have goth friends... plus when that person go n listen to the music suggested by said person,they can dictated wheather they like those bands..but if they dont they can dig deeper like how if u click on one band you have recomended bands. or they can be like me and just see what other people like and maybe see/hear bands new bands that idk that i might potientionally might like..just see it as back in the day youd see someone cool/or dresses like you n u might want to approach them n get kno more about what they like. its like sharing i guess but at the end of the day if u dnt like sum of there style/music tips then u can find other things...and sooner or later theyll find there own stuff they like that may/may not be suggested by many ppl.
+Ashleigh Warrender umm wouldnt you be conforming to be a "goth" anyway? if you want to embrace your individuality than dont try to categorize yourself. i mean, otherwise the bum down the street would be considered a goth.
I'm in love with your beauty *-*
You look like the daughter of siouxsie. She is amazing, i love her music and she have been a great influence on me
I've just started reading Anne Rice's "Vampire Chronicles" which is amazing. My favorite goth band would definitely be Siouxsie and the Banshees.
But even if one is goth, doesn't mean they have to just listen to Gothic bands. I also love bands such as Florence and the Machine, Fleetwood Mac, The Script, and The Fray.
Romantic Goth here, there are so many Goth bands old, new and everthing in between .... RUclips is a great place to start.
Before I watch the video, let me share my view of goth:
Elegant
Macabre
And scorpio-vibes
You love reading old and almost dark poems, Edgar Allen Poe for example. You listen to instrumental music that would have been quite the hit in the 18th century. Classical and opera music is also a big thing. An example of a favourite author would be Stephen King. Dark and classy as a style, but enjoys the comfort of baggy and black clothes. Intercut patterns and philosophical. Love the dark things in life and appreciate the light things.
We'll see if I am correct or if my view is wrong once I watched the video.
she looks like one of the hex girls from Scooby doo, which is totally cool
I write gothic literature. My friends get mad at me because I always leave the ending ambiguous lol
DISINTEGRATION
MY BELOVED
this is really helpful !!!! I often get accused of being "not goth enough" because I have brightly colored hair instead of black, and I don't have a large amount of goth clothes. It's so difficult to build a wardrobe because decent goth clothes can be soooooo expensive ://
I am a metal head but I love bauhaus. Stigmata martyr and other songs from them i also also like other goth bands too I know goth evolved from post- punk I do
where is your sweater from? i love it !!!
eliza fish-head thank you! its from topshop :) xx
Also Fields of the Nephilim are amazing
This video is amazing and so are you, thank you SO much for doing this!
you are so nice. I love your trad goth look. it's very lovely and I wish I see it more often.
I've always wanted to get more into the Goth culture. Thank you for the advice. You are also absolutely beautiful and adorable.
new fav youtuber ok !! just starting on th gothic sub culture and just going to watch all your videos brb
I would say that the album Pornography is the cures most important contribution to goth. Some of the more unknown "goth"music i like is the early work of Cocteau Twins and My bloody valentine. Both were gothic and became the pioneers of Shoegaze.
i'm a babybat and this is very helpful !! I tell myself not to be fully 100% into the subculture since I'm also a metalhead so I'm part of two subcultures, I also have a low self-esteem so ellists make me feel very unvalidated 😞😞I'm 4 months into it and my goth playlist is almost 10 hours long ! (iI adore the music so much :3)
Siouxsie Sioux is a GODDESS...her ability to shift her persona and sound so seamlessly and still bring it musically is incredible
I massively enjoyed this video and got alot of helpful tips ^^
I also really like the notion that you don't need to conform to one specific genre or subculture if you're in to more of them, I think that's a point that doesn't get made too much. Which is kinda funny since alternative music and subcultures basically exist as a sort of rebellion against conformity :p Oh, well.
I dress in clothes that make me feel awesome, confident and comfortable, I do my make up accordingly and listen to whatever music I like at the moment, but I still identify as goth, and I think that's okay :)
I'm 13 and I'm very serious about being a goth. Thanks for making the video :3
This was very helpful.
My aunt and I love Edgar Allen Poe and I'm starting to get to know Anne Rice
+Cat Burgular allan*
+Stupid Now Sorry 😓
Claws The Banshee Same
Thank you for this video. As a "babybat" it's very helpful. I learned alot.
You are so kind Snowy. You have a big heart.
Some personal music choices: Pretentious, Moi? (self titled), Solemn Novena (Kiss The Girls), The Birthday Massacre (all), Saigon Blue Rain, Lovelorn Dolls (Japanese Robot Invasion), Clan Of Xymox (older stuff), Ashengrace, The Flir, Love Spirals Downwards (Idylls, Ardor), Autumn's Grey Solace (Riverine, etc.), Winter Severity Index, Mercury's Antennae, Tearwave (Different Shade Of Beauty), The Eden House (Smoke & Mirrors), The Frozen Autumn,, Ballet School, Night Sins (London Or The Lake), Pulcher Femina (Shadows Of Lovers), Ashbury Heights, Saigon Blue Rain, Bella Lune, Artesia, Drab Majesty, Asylum Party, Lycia (Tripping Back Into The Broken Days, Cold), Warmline (Sad), The Last Dance, Envinity (Sweet Painful Reality), Lacuna Coil (Unleashed Memories, etc. not newer stuff), Paris Burning (a few demos), Seduced By Suicide (couple tracks off ep), Depeche Mode Covers
I'm glad you made clear at one point about the difference between Death Rock and Goth Rock. Death rock was actually a form of punk. Goth has a more British glam mix to Death rock, like David Bowie and Specimen
She is a very sweet goth.....I like her😊
Ah!!! I've seen The Hunger! I love the film and it was also the first time I heard of Bauhaus! 😃
All my children went through this phase. A fortune on makeup and clothes, hair color, Hot Topic, screamo and other concerts. And, oh, the drama. Thank goodness it’s over. We have much laughter over the photos these days. Your makeup is perfection. 🥰
Your style reminds me so much of Siouxsie, absolutely stunning
I love goth fashion so I just got into the music (gothic clothes will no longer be labeled poser )
I think I really need that book 🖤🖤🖤
i love those Cure and Robert Smith posters on your wall
i mainly like rap and metal/rock of all sorts and i like industrial metal and things of that sort which sound dark plus i like black so i might get into this soon
I have always wanted hair just like yours!! What amazing layers!
Joy Division and The Cure
Thank you for your kindness and non-elitist attitude! It makes exploring goth culture a lot less scary and more fun.
You are just absolutely lovely! I admire your taste in music, attire and love your makeup (:
the only Author you mentioned that I didn't know was Mathew Gregory but how you described the book sounds amazing and Anne Rice is my absolute favorite Author and I love H.P. Lovecraft as well!
Post punk wasn't necessarily darker just more artsy.
I am a goth 🖤
so everyone calls me goth and it dossent bother me. i mean, i have long black hair, am pale and love dark makeup. i love poetry and just kinda twisted things. idk if my music is considerd goth. like i love marilyn manson, rod zombie and more metal type music. but i also love panic! at the dosco, falling in reverse and black veil brides. i want at least 2 tattoos and have a few peircings in mind...so am i goth?
Carlie Whittemore How you present yourself doesn't really matter. The culture itself is based on the music. Don't get too caught up in labels, though. Just be happy with who you are.
Ravlei I dont really care what im percived as, i like my style the way it is. i personally find labels degrading, thank you much for answering my comment, i didnt expect an answer
Some personal music choices: Pretentious, Moi? (self titled), Solemn
Novena (Kiss The Girls), The Birthday Massacre (all), Saigon Blue Rain,
Lovelorn Dolls (Japanese Robot Invasion), Clan Of Xymox (older stuff),
Ashengrace, The Flir,, Love Spirals Downwards (Idylls, Ardor), Autumn's
Grey Solace (Riverine, etc.), Winter Severity Index, Mercury's Antennae,
Tearwave (Different Shade Of Beauty), The Eden House (Smoke &
Mirrors), The Frozen Autumn,, Ballet School, Night Sins (London Or The Lake), Pulcher Femina (Shadows Of Lovers), Ashbury Heights, Saigon Blue Rain, Bella Lune, Artesia, Drab Majesty, Asylum Party, Lycia (Tripping Back Into The Broken Days, Cold), Warmline (Sad), The Last Dance, Envinity (Sweet Painful Reality), Lacuna Coil (Unleashed Memories, etc. not newer stuff), Paris Burning (a few demos), Seduced By Suicide (couple tracks off ep), Depeche Mode Covers
Wilfred Birchrock Wow! what a responce. you really want a girl to do her research! Well, then ill just get on that
Wilfred Birchrock Gothabilly was added to the sub-genre list of related music, somehow left it out last post.
Bauhaus recording of Bela Lugosi in Jan 79 is considered by many to be a huge landmark
I am really inspired by your video. I want to be a goth but I love my life. My friends are making fun of me for wearing eyeliner (just like you!) but because I want to be a goth I just tell them to sod off!. Thank you for giving me strengh to overcome those bullies and I love your tumblr
This is a great video! I've had a love of the goth culture (all aspects of it) since I was a teenager! I love the music (darkwave, gothic rock/80s, etc), the various fashions, and I adore gothic literature. Aside from Anne Rice, it's almost all I read xD My favs being the Portrait of Dorian Gray and Wuthering Heights.
I love how you keep this simple though. Thanks!
Thanks for the info. this video is now one of my favorites
I love your sweater, and this proves that not all goths need to always wear black
I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I just realized you remind me of madame leota from the haunted mansion!
Also, DIY really isn't that hard as long as you know how to do it. I make DIY t-shirts on my channel if you want an example . . .
I love goth
I'm not goth, but if you want to get into goth music I recommend Depeche Mode "Violator" album. I think it's something anyone will enjoy. Also, just a song I love right now is "And I" by Wolfsheim. Just listen to it and fall in love with it.
That green jumper. I want!
Thanks for making this video! Would you consider making a video about your favourite youtubers?
I love everything except for a lot of the music and I feel bad about that
i wann be goth but i listen to the more emo music and im afraid people are going to call me a poser
Broken Apart, Put Back Together Do you your own thing. Fuck elitist types, they're a bunch of moody eejits. I've been into the Goth thing for over 20 years, I was originally into grunge rock and metal. There are no rules to being you 🤗
Alex Perezzz darling I am goth and I listen to Michael Jackson,Queen and Marilyn Manson!
I love the gothic look , the image , the music etc , I have blonde hair and don't have any gothic image whatsoever, would love it tho
Do you need to be that deep into the music to be goth,or can you just like a few songs and still enjoy the subculture?
in order to be goth, you have to listen and know goth music
Babe do what u want
I can't believe that all the music goths like are the bands I grew up with
Thankyou for a very informative vid on the Goth lifestyle.
actually I was back in Portsmouth, England in 1977 there was Goth, Punk and Emo music as well as fashion. Although it was a mix of the music and fashion. A bit of biker leather with the Goth and the Punk was more of colored hair with more blue jeans. All of them use to wear steel toe boots mostly some punks did wear sneakers. Although most of the bands back then did records but those records were mostly distributed by the bands theirself (like a few groups here in America for example like God's Girlfriend, Voodoo Glow Skull, Dead Kennedy's, Skinny Puppy, DMZ, Salt & Pepper, Pink, Will Smith before they got discovered).
I thought I was a goth, but I now know I'm a post punk
my parents listen to joy division the cure and that such and I love them too I didn't know they were gothish bands
1982 bat cave , those were the days ....... rip
This is great, I have so much to learn. Thanks.
Seventeen seconds oh my god, you people should see me and my mom together listening to The Cure haha, so lovely when your mom has the same taste in music
I’m just here Bc I really like the music! The style isn’t my taste but i love when other people wear it💃✨ but I really am here for the music I heard a “goth” song by Kim Dracula and I really want to learn more about that music 💖 if you have any recommendations I would really love them🕺
Oh but just know I don’t know what genre his music is😅 sorry if it isn’t “goth”