When Should You Wish on the Weapon Banner? | Genshin Impact Universal Guide

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  • Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
  • Should you spend your Primogems on Genshin's weapon banner? This Genshin Impact guide will help YOU find YOUR answer by explaining everything about the weapon banner, including its complex pity system and epitomized path. Even if you are a free to play / F2P Genshin Impact player in 4.4, there are situations where you might consider wishing on the weapon banner. By the end, you should have your answer.
    Timestamps:
    0:00 Intro
    0:22 Weapon Banner Pity Breakdown
    0:51 Epitomized Path Explained
    1:32 Expected 5 star weapon rates
    1:54 Expected 4 star weapon rates
    2:50 How good are (5*) weapons really?
    4:20 Weapons you should prioritize [Important]
    5:40 Are universal weapons overrated?
    6:37 When is the weapon banner worth wishing on?
    8:55 You should prioritize these first
    10:04 Final tips, advice, and conclusion
    10:53 Outro
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  • @Vidmiloo
    @Vidmiloo  Год назад +149

    Addressing an oopsie that Vidmilo made in this video:
    At around 9:51, I showed a short list of characters that are good for a newer genshin account to pick up for team building flexibility, but I didn't bother to elaborate more on other characters worth considering, or how they roughly compare to one another. Here's a more accurate extension of this list:
    Highest flexibility - Nahida, Kazuha, Yelan - These characters can be fit into the vast majority of teams, and will expand team building options the most. Note that this does NOT mean any are necessary to wish for.
    High flexibility - Ayato, Raiden, Kokomi - All fit into several archetypes, most of the time work as excellent substitutes for a BiS character in high demand.
    Honorable mention - Zhongli - Mentioning him because he can be a comfortable damage to defensive utility exchange in almost any team, but only arguably necessary in teams that have an on fielder doing multiple slow charge shots. If you don't mind the loss in damage, you'll get good use out of him.
    Horizontal investment tier - Most 5 star carries / damage dealers (Nilou teams, Xiao, Wanderer, Childe, Alhaitham, Yae, etc. ) - Some of the best options for horizontal investment, but can require specific higher demand characters to work. Some characters need a lot of vertical investment to work at their maximum potential (i.e. constellations, signature weapon), while others like Nilou might like specific teammates to unlock maximum potential (Nahida). Depending on the account's primogem situation, certain carries can be better or worse to go for than others, which I won't get into too much detail on here.
    Hopefully this helps understand the reasoning as to why some "unconventional" characters are seen with the 5 stars regarded as the best, sorry for the confusion!

    • @charameleos777
      @charameleos777 Год назад

      Would you suggest I go for Hu Tao or childe who do you think will give more value to my accounts

    • @Vidmiloo
      @Vidmiloo  Год назад +9

      @@charameleos777 Hu tao if you're willing to invest a lot into her teams and maximize her gameplay, otherwise Childe for enabling arguably the best Xiangling vape team. If you're minmaxing, you'd want to pick either Xiangling or Hu tao to focus on.
      Neither are necessarily more valuable than the other though, both will provide good value :)

    • @mr.witherstorm
      @mr.witherstorm Год назад +3

      man gets 2k with 2 vidioes me: 60 videos 30 subscribers

    • @totsbig
      @totsbig Год назад +11

      Finally! Someone who respects Ayato!
      A lot of people are calling him mid.
      His value lies not just on easy mobile gameplay or aesthetics or DPS or whatnot; team comp possibilities with him is immense. For someone who hesitates what to do on certain Abyss floors, Ayato is a fail-safe option, therefore high in value.

    • @mr.witherstorm
      @mr.witherstorm Год назад +2

      @@totsbig ayato is awsome!

  • @Volair
    @Volair Год назад +1179

    I'm all about exposing gacha BS, but the Epitomized path was added sometime after a streamer (or two) lost like 7-8 times in a row. Tectone I know lost 7+ in a row to Wolf's Grave stone. So, the Epitomized path is actually a mercy, despite it still being pretty bad.

    • @Vidmiloo
      @Vidmiloo  Год назад +315

      Agreed, it's good that it prevents scenarios like that! Didn't bother to mention it in the video since it's focused on maximizing accounts with a more limited primogem budget. Definitely better to have epitomized path than to not have it at all.

    • @Volair
      @Volair Год назад +40

      @@Vidmiloo Yeah, and that's 100% fair. At the end of the day it's still gacha and wants you to spend, spend, spend. Great stuff, look forward to more.

    • @warduxe
      @warduxe Год назад +82

      Staff of homeless Incident, Aware

    • @shiedakayn365
      @shiedakayn365 Год назад +22

      There was this Chinese Vtuber and I don't remember what weapon he was trying to get on the weapon banner but he kept getting elegy of the end like 10-15 times. This was also before the pity system and I can't seem to find this video clip anymore on RUclips.

    • @wage942
      @wage942 Год назад +47

      As much as it prevents scenarios like that, I would’ve preferred for it to not reset because that’s just a spit in the face for F2P players. I was dumb enough to wish on that banner and lost twice to two weapons I didn’t want. Now is have 2 useless 5 star weapons lying in my inventory.

  • @atomotron
    @atomotron Год назад +546

    Just remember: this is a theory. In reality, you can spend your wishes on "pretty good" banner, and get 9 copies of Lions Roar instead of all those sweet Favonius and Sacrificial weapons.

    • @monstarundaloc9256
      @monstarundaloc9256 Год назад +57

      Where can i get this 9 copies of Lions roar

    • @tahagmt7518
      @tahagmt7518 Год назад +4

      its all about stats maths probabilities
      But still its not all random

    • @calvin659
      @calvin659 Год назад +13

      The reality is using craftable weapons and freebie event weapons is not the way to go…

    • @PandaCatXD
      @PandaCatXD Год назад +1

      I keep getting characters on the weapons banner 😂 I've gotten Bennett at least twice there

    • @atomotron
      @atomotron Год назад +12

      @@tahagmt7518 I notice Genshin gacha tends to getting "stuck" sometimes, when it starts spitting the same item over and over again. What is the chance of getting 3 or 4 copies of Thoma in a row? Still, it happened not once, but three times to me. I currently have C20 Thoma, and I don't even like him. I wanted to get C2 Diona, is all.

  • @sakura_branches
    @sakura_branches Год назад +210

    I have a few rules for the weapon banner that have helped me a lot as a late game player
    1. don't wish unless you would be ok getting both weapons. like, I threw 30 wishes on the key/thousand floating dreams banner cuz I have both nilou and nahida, and if I didn't get I wouldn't have minded getting nahidas signature
    2. limit yourself. don't go "I'll pull until I get x weapon or im out of primos." be like "I'll reserve 20-30 wishes for weapon banner and maybe I'll get lucky." personally, I like to throw wishes at weapon banner if I've been saving for a long time but won a 50/50 or know I have a guarantee on character banner
    3. assume there's a character banner you'll want soon. ya know, just be smart abt it

    • @pokemongameryt4383
      @pokemongameryt4383 9 месяцев назад +1

      Bro I have a doubt.
      Currently I want POLAR STAR BOW. And I am 40 wishes in, still not got it, but I am short on primos. Although I have enough for my next wanted character.
      So I want to ask, that if weapon banner changes, does it take away all my 40 wishes ?
      I mean currently I only need about 25 more wishes to get a 5 star weapon. But if weapon banner changes, does it restart my pity from 0 wishes?

    • @hannuak
      @hannuak 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@pokemongameryt4383 I don't think so. If I understood correctly, the Epitomized path pity resets every new banner, not a pity for a 5 star in the weapon banner.

    • @juanlife6255
      @juanlife6255 9 месяцев назад +2

      this, pretty good advice.

    • @ramentamago4094
      @ramentamago4094 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@pokemongameryt4383 it carries on, but it resets the fate to 0.

  • @chronopolize_jp
    @chronopolize_jp 11 месяцев назад +102

    Remember that new characters open more playstyle options, whereas weapons just increase your numbers.

    • @RealLordVoldemort
      @RealLordVoldemort 8 месяцев назад +6

      Old characters too!
      Mona with Favonius Codex, Emblem artifact set & good energy recharge stats is an absolute menace and proves she doesn't even need a 5 star weapon
      Even the new event catalyst on Wanderer, Klee, Neuvelitte, Yan Fei, Wriothesley and Heizou is an absolute beast of a weapon
      5 star weapons are not rlly worth the stress and hassle unless you're pulling out the credit card so I agree 1000% with ur comment ❤

    • @brawlhelper9040
      @brawlhelper9040 3 месяца назад

      Yes i need numbers. 😂so thanks

    • @Fielith
      @Fielith Месяц назад

      Im so attached to my wanderer team that i cant wish on character banner heheh

  • @continued3713
    @continued3713 Год назад +338

    Couldn’t believe this man only had 100 views on the video (thought this was a popular channel because the video was so well edited and explained 😭)

    • @LuckyFlanker13
      @LuckyFlanker13 Год назад +20

      Nah, the guy started really recently. He just has a ton of experience making vids for fun and a lot of passion about genshin.

    • @teioyoko
      @teioyoko Год назад +11

      literally same 😂😂😂😂 i was like who is this big name content creator??

    • @mickysaif
      @mickysaif Год назад +2

      don't worry it's 12k now

    • @Grin-Malkin1374
      @Grin-Malkin1374 Год назад +1

      Give it time

    • @cheesynut
      @cheesynut Год назад +4

      He's just late. Also this only useful for new players Most old players don't care or already understand. But I'm still subscribing tho and yeah quality content deserves more attention

  • @declan2302
    @declan2302 Год назад +340

    This video is such high quality and is so well made. We need to support this guy more

  • @supercasstiv6732
    @supercasstiv6732 Год назад +54

    This is, without a doubt, answers every anxiety F2P players have.
    For something so crucial such as Primos, we tend to have less but wanting for more. Having more choice isn't a freedom, it's a torture.
    The video is beautifully explained and narrated while having empirical data to back up your claim. Well done and thank you for the info! You deserved more subs.

  • @Vidmiloo
    @Vidmiloo  Год назад +55

    If you're still undecided about the weapon banner, I'll be answering your questions to the best of my ability!

    • @thatonemangareader524
      @thatonemangareader524 Год назад +3

      I'd like your help!
      I'm a wanderer main and since I got him on his release I was determined to get his weapon on his rerun...but then he go put with kokomi on the banner...her weapon is the worst in game and now I don't know what to do...
      My main objective is to make him op but...is it even worth it? It's between going for his weapon, going for his c2, and going for characters like kazuha, kokomi and zhongli which I don't have yet
      Thanks a lot for the amazing video! ^^

    • @Vidmiloo
      @Vidmiloo  Год назад +10

      @@thatonemangareader524 thank you for the kind words! very glad you liked it :)
      so, if you're a dedicated wanderer main, then I wouldn't recommend going for his signature weapon. This is because his optimal combo involves using repeated charge attacks for both higher DPS and larger AoE. His signature is still good, but not a very big upgrade like mistsplitter can be for ayaka, for example. The fact that it's paired with the donut makes it even less efficient to go for.
      So, if you're certain you want a wanderer upgrade, definitely go for cons instead!

    • @michellek2882
      @michellek2882 Год назад

      What about characters that really need 4 star or better? Fischl is a good unit on any account, but her 3 star bows are apparently bad on her and everyone recommends Stringless at minimum. I run the Raiden National (Raiden/XQ/Bennett/XL) and Aggravate teams (Keqing/Nahida/Fischl/Zhongli).

    • @thatonemangareader524
      @thatonemangareader524 Год назад

      @@Vidmiloo okey I'll do as you suggest than! Thank you a lot ^^

    • @danielvicol3992
      @danielvicol3992 Год назад

      I think it would still be wisest to not go for a specific 5* on the weapon banner unless you got 180 wishes, because you never know when you reach that epitomized path.
      In my experience if I hadn't saved up that much and then some I wouldn't have gotten Redhorny and be left with two Memories of Guizhong the dusty lady, which yeah, I am gonna use on Wanderer when I get him, but it still would've been a big loss and likely regretted it.

  • @kaizerdiriou
    @kaizerdiriou Год назад +35

    There's one more thing that I think is worth considering when considering weapon banner vs. character banner as well. That being, it's a lot more resin efficient to level weapons to 90 then it is to level a character, their artifacts and their talents. Unless you're dropping primogems on resin refreshes or have some fragiles/transients to spend, you can generally expect maximizing any character you pull that you want to build to take a huge amount of resin, up to about 18 days of resin or so(I think?)without the assistance of already-existing resources(and this is not even considering the needed artifact EXP to level their artifacts), while a 5 star weapon only takes about 2 days of resin in weapon domains to level a 5 star weapon to 90. However, it's also worth considering that to do so takes around 900 Mystic Enhancement Ores, which translates to about 3600 ores from Crystal and Amethyst ore nodes. This is something you can grind out if you're willing(if not, you can make this process far easier by forging any magical ores you pick up; I wouldn't, though), and though it's a bit boring and VERY time consuming, it's still far, far more resin lenient then building characters. I've spent my resin every single day for about 20 months playing this game now, and I STILL don't feel like I have nearly enough resin for artifact domains; reason being, because I tend to focus on building characters much more often. A testament to exactly how much resin it takes to get your characters where they need to be at WL8.
    Source of numbers: genshin-center.com/planner

  • @badapi77
    @badapi77 Год назад +12

    Definitely one of most well informed and edited video I have seen. Your explanation also makes it so clear to understand. Keep going mah man

  • @thatonemangareader524
    @thatonemangareader524 Год назад +104

    Dude that was an amazingly explained and edited video.
    Ain't no way you're so underrated.
    I subscribed right away.

    • @trottermarket
      @trottermarket Год назад +3

      Same for me. When I saw he this was one of the first videos I was pleasantly surprised. This is exactly the kind of content I'm looking for.

    • @mickysaif
      @mickysaif Год назад +2

      this is probably a new channel

  • @juice3287
    @juice3287 Год назад +10

    excellent video, i've already wished a lot on weapons, but this was such a great analysis on their actual value. hope this channel grows, subbed

  • @nicholasapicella5764
    @nicholasapicella5764 Год назад +2

    Excellent videos so far, very interesting to look at the math going on here. Looking forward to the next one!

  • @ocnarfyt6563
    @ocnarfyt6563 Год назад +4

    Excellent video, effort going into it really shows! Subscribed, and I hope your channel grows quickly, it deserves way more attention than many others!

  • @epicboss6767
    @epicboss6767 Год назад +1

    Thank you for the great video! I haven't ever wished on the weapon banner, but I think I'll definitely consider it more from now on.

  • @fantasticoproduction
    @fantasticoproduction Год назад

    so good! I haven't seen information like this all together before :D

  • @teioyoko
    @teioyoko Год назад

    i love the way you edited this!!! very informative as well!
    subscribed ❤

  • @Cloud-ue1rt
    @Cloud-ue1rt Год назад

    Very informative and i kept watching through the end! Please make more ❤

  • @GuiPandini
    @GuiPandini Год назад

    bro keep the content coming! you clearly made a perfect job with these last two videos.

  • @kaylartaylor5991
    @kaylartaylor5991 Год назад +1

    Honestly found this helpful I think u should get more recognition

  • @heycallmetomo3352
    @heycallmetomo3352 Год назад

    BRO WHAT I watched this last week, didn't know you only had TWO videos. Either way, love em both!

  • @minttree8581
    @minttree8581 Год назад +1

    Bro that was a great video man i was just wondering about what weapon to wish for yoimiya and this helped me a lot.

  • @Ganamabunta08
    @Ganamabunta08 Год назад

    That's great content and easy to understand too !
    And it gives the numbers (that I didn't know about exactly) while keeping the general idea (that I did know about).
    Overall, nice vid ! Glad RUclips recommended it to me

  • @th2112
    @th2112 Год назад +1

    Loved the math focus. Earned my sub

  • @swagingexo_osh8487
    @swagingexo_osh8487 Год назад

    The this video was freakin great and very well put together but your voice is also so calm and rlly nice to listen to

  • @Darkkefka
    @Darkkefka Год назад +1

    Good stuff dude. Please continue to make these detailed videos.

  • @xvgarnet
    @xvgarnet Год назад +1

    Very interesting and in depth video! I always thought that pulling on weapon was not worth for me at the moment since i'm still building my teams and I only pull for characters. Good to know I was on the right path 😂. Appreciate all the information and high quality edit.

  • @kanarxn
    @kanarxn Год назад

    bro your vid is so well made and professional. definitely be supporting you. hoping to see more genshin videos

  • @sharpshooter4778
    @sharpshooter4778 8 месяцев назад

    This is a W video! Im almost at the point you said to go for weapons, but not there yet. You saved me a lot of time :)

  • @thesnazzle
    @thesnazzle Год назад

    This is a really great video! Keep up the good work!

  • @Synchronizebud
    @Synchronizebud Год назад

    Bro your content is so good, i’m subscribed. I hope this channel keep growing.

  • @zesanx
    @zesanx Год назад +1

    Thank you, that was a very concise explanation.

  • @sloppysilver
    @sloppysilver Год назад

    I watched this video then immediately subscribed, a testament to this video's quality.

  • @yoh9294
    @yoh9294 Год назад +1

    I don't usually comment, but man, you video is dope, hope you get far

  • @huyphamle159
    @huyphamle159 Год назад +7

    If you can carry fate points over next banner,the world will be a better places

  • @Shuraig7
    @Shuraig7 Год назад

    This is the best weapon banner video i've seen, well done

  • @miska468
    @miska468 Год назад

    YOU GAINED A SUB MY GUY. what an amazing detailed video!!

  • @mishygames
    @mishygames Год назад

    Really well researched and made videos! Keep it up

  • @berrylovespice
    @berrylovespice Год назад +1

    Your video is so well made and detail is amazing u can make this level of details and u only have 2 videos

  • @Fuzzyfelii
    @Fuzzyfelii Год назад +4

    Watched this yesterday or 2 days ago.. KNEW THIS WILL BLOW UP INSTANTLY wow actually I hope this vid gets more views it's actually well made and edited and the jump between yesterday and now is pretty significant

    • @Vidmiloo
      @Vidmiloo  Год назад +1

      It's been such a crazy two days! I'll let you in that I didn't want the video to "blow up" so soon. The plan for this one was to have views trickle in via youtube search to gain a small initial following before dropping bigger videos (Which was the case for the first 3 days or so). Hope you enjoyed these first videos, more are on the way! :)

  • @airleamystery4788
    @airleamystery4788 Год назад +2

    Very well explained and very accurate.
    This is probably the video I'd recommend to anyone looking to understand the weapon banner 👍

    • @imo098765
      @imo098765 Год назад

      One of the other ideas, if you already have said characters that make up the majority of the better teams. Weapons can make teams more fun
      Yoimiya burgeon/hyperbloom teams isnt that great
      But give Kuki a key of khanisut and Nahida burst. Yoimiya thats a crazy mad reaction team

  • @roychan588
    @roychan588 Год назад +1

    Thanks for this video! I didn't know that soft pity and 4 star pity were different compared to the character banners as an AR 55 player!

  • @Random2
    @Random2 5 месяцев назад

    Hey. Just discovered your channel, very good quality of videos. I hope you continue making them, and thanks for the three you already have now. It is good to find some quality content on genshin. You are now my only genshin-focused subscription here on youtube.

  • @muichiro5537
    @muichiro5537 Год назад

    U got a new sub keep uploading top notch quality videos btw!

  • @thuaners
    @thuaners Год назад

    excellent video! really clears things up for me :)

  • @Francesco-lr7qh
    @Francesco-lr7qh Год назад

    These videos including a little statistics are so interesting please keep doing more.

    • @Vidmiloo
      @Vidmiloo  Год назад

      More is on the way, artifact statistics and optimization is next! :)

  • @jasperelester5328
    @jasperelester5328 Год назад

    Nice conteeeeeent! This needs to blow up fr

  • @ryantang8418
    @ryantang8418 10 месяцев назад

    This video is genuinely so insightful, basically summarises every single important factor about considering pulling for weapons into one video, and making it incredibly simple to understand. To me the only time when this video wouldn't apply is when *ahem* you have players like me who pull characters to simp for

  • @mohtesib
    @mohtesib 9 месяцев назад

    Wow the video is super awesome!!! Learnt a lot

  • @frozenspace8793
    @frozenspace8793 Год назад

    very surprised to see the quality and details of the video for a new channel, you’re awesome ❤️

    • @Vidmiloo
      @Vidmiloo  Год назад

      Thank you! Truth be told, I used to run a different (non genshin) youtube channel a couple years ago, and learned a lot from that experience, so I'm not exactly a "new" youtuber. Regardless, I hope you enjoyed this video! :)

    • @frozenspace8793
      @frozenspace8793 Год назад

      @@Vidmiloo well… we’ll consider me an OG for this channel then😛
      hope you’ll remember my support when you grow this channel to a million and more✌🏻🥂

  • @Febonebo
    @Febonebo Год назад +43

    Tbf, the Homa/Aqua banner was insane for those who had both Hu Tao and Yelan. I got lucky and got both weapons with 80 pulls. On the other hand, its hard to justify pulling for mistplitter when the other feature is terrible, thats why I wouldn´t say that mistplitter/unforged banner was great (the 4 stars are not enough to balance the chance of needing do go for full epitomized path). So for me, I only pull if both weapons are at least good.

    • @moritz4026
      @moritz4026 Год назад +2

      aqua isnt worth it tho, fav is just similar

    • @Progeusz
      @Progeusz 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@moritz4026 you're very wrong. Aqua is much better than fav. It's like 20% difference and it grows even higher if you have c1 Yelan. Aqua is also a great bow for other characters, being BiS or close to best option for majority of bow users.

    • @moritz4026
      @moritz4026 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Progeusz are you talking about yelans damage? fav has more to it than that, its energy generation is the whole reason its broken

    • @tomboy2980
      @tomboy2980 11 месяцев назад

      Totally agree, I'm f2p so I had never wished on the weapon banner until homa/aqua because I wanted homa for my zhongli, and I got it on the first try, but part of me wishes I didn't so I could have both weapons. I don't have a bow dps character, so I certainly didn't need it, but I know one day it's gonna come back to bite me. But at the same time, I'm glad I didn't have to waste more primos to get the weapon I was after. Being f2p can be such a catch 22

    • @Kamion008
      @Kamion008 11 месяцев назад

      I pulled for that banner an got Aqua at first try (the weapon that I wanted). It's really useful, considering that I use (or I'm going to use) characters that want that weapon (like Ganyu and Tighnari, and of course Yelan, but even Fischl and Amber)

  • @LuckyFlanker13
    @LuckyFlanker13 Год назад +21

    Hey Milo! Great work and research, both detailed, easily digestible, and well written.
    As per my promise, here's the scoreboard for character pics found: 38. Impressive, counting all those took a while Milo.
    1. Mika 2:21
    2. Ayaya 3:06
    3. Hu Tao 3:13
    4. Xingqiu
    5. Yelan
    6. Zhongli (technically in the background)
    7. Xiao 4:01
    8. Faruzan
    9. Zhong Dong
    10. Albedon't.
    11. Ayaya! (AYAYA AYAYA!!)
    12. Kokofish
    13. Leaf Stealer Kazooka
    14. Rosie
    15. Sucrose 4:12
    16. Beidou
    17. Fischl
    18. Miko 4:14
    19. Tignhari
    20. Childe 4:18
    21. Xiangling
    22. Benny-boy
    23 . Kirararararara 4:40
    24. Yoimiya 5:15
    25. Kuki
    26. Jean
    27. Aether
    28. Razor
    29. Thoma
    30 . Ei (Worst archon fight me) 5:19
    31Alhaitham
    32. Nahihi (best archon fight me)
    33. Nilou (5:23)
    34. Diona
    35. Yun Jin (5:30)
    36. Yaoyao (5:32)
    37. Chongu (6:45)
    38: Ayato (10:02)

    • @Vidmiloo
      @Vidmiloo  Год назад +1

      lol, well done :)

    • @sasvkeee._
      @sasvkeee._ 8 месяцев назад

      ur so right about number 30

    • @LuckyFlanker13
      @LuckyFlanker13 8 месяцев назад

      Double counted some guys by mistake, specifically Ayaka and Zhongli.
      The corrected number is 36 characters.

  • @GatochanBolivia
    @GatochanBolivia 10 месяцев назад

    Man, what a helpful video :'3 thank you so bro, wow.

  • @flutchsamoylov4076
    @flutchsamoylov4076 Год назад

    Thanks for the video. That was quite educative

  • @byeetch
    @byeetch Год назад +12

    Weapon banners only make sense if you want to minmax a certain character or team archetype. There is never a case where you would need to have these weapons. If you enjoy vertical investment, then go for it. If you enjoy having different comps and playstyles, getting more characters should be your priority. I'd say newer players should avoid weapon banners completely.

    • @someguywithablueshirt4373
      @someguywithablueshirt4373 Год назад +12

      Disagree, to an extent. At some point you will have too many characters to deal with and won’t even use half of the characters you own. I think once an account has ~4 solid team comps they should think about wishing on weapon banner. Just my opinion though.

    • @Anon-tq9gm
      @Anon-tq9gm Год назад +1

      @@someguywithablueshirt4373yep fair assessment, that’s what im doing for my account as a f20 that started in patch 1.0. However, id recommend most people go for characters still since my experience is that horizontal investment helps way more with content like abyss than 5* weapons

  • @ZEhamster
    @ZEhamster Год назад

    Superb video. Great work!

  • @jego207
    @jego207 Год назад

    This is the best explanation of weapon banner value I've seen. 👍👍👍

  • @JblgamingYt
    @JblgamingYt 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you for all your infromative videos and in depth explanation of genshin's gacha system

  • @Merrexz
    @Merrexz Год назад +2

    So good, thanks 🎉

    • @Vidmiloo
      @Vidmiloo  Год назад +2

      glad you liked it! :)

  • @guilhermeferreiraherrera9629
    @guilhermeferreiraherrera9629 Год назад

    Amazing video Vidmilo!

  • @kalodawg8297
    @kalodawg8297 Год назад +3

    Thank you for actually talking about the mathematical odds! So many people just randomly say "Oh, soft pity starts at X or Y" but don't give any real data. Especially on the odds to get 4* weapons and chars, it was super interesting

  • @theguy9994
    @theguy9994 Год назад +9

    Getting R5 Mouun’s Moon on the weapon banner was 10x better for my raiden team than the engulfing lightning. Sara absolutely shreds things thanks to that beefy passive + Kazuha and Bennett

  • @youssefkhabouch8298
    @youssefkhabouch8298 Год назад +2

    Such informative high quality content, keep it up 👍

  • @Haythxrn
    @Haythxrn Год назад +13

    Very insightful, as someone who has pulled signature weapons for my favorite characters I appreciate knowing more about what I'm doing

  • @justxigoldenix9909
    @justxigoldenix9909 Год назад +3

    Great video man. Personally, i only wish on weapon banner if:
    1. both weapons are something i want
    2. If im done building the foundation of the team (artifacts, talents)
    3. If the 4 stars are worth it/super benificial
    I share your views and agreed with a lot of your points, and thanks for linking that team dmg calc in the description.

  • @patoleapipows
    @patoleapipows 11 месяцев назад

    This is a great video, Im mesmerized.

  • @xiRePeNTx
    @xiRePeNTx Год назад

    Thank you very good video mate this will help me alot

  • @coolguy10221
    @coolguy10221 Год назад

    dude thank you for this explanation, i always thought weapon banner odds were about the same except that soft pity started in the 60's instead of the 70's. didn't know the odds of the banner weapons also changed to 50/50 after losing once. this'll help me plenty when budgeting for focalors and her weapon.

  • @noemie1399
    @noemie1399 Год назад

    excellent vid!! keep it up :)

  • @JarmaraL
    @JarmaraL 11 месяцев назад

    gotta say your videos quality is great

  • @DarkAssassin01
    @DarkAssassin01 Год назад

    Wow, this video is very informative! Thank you for this and I'm going to sub to your channel!❤

  • @emirgul7363
    @emirgul7363 Год назад

    great video with very in depth details

  • @dazz_2d
    @dazz_2d Год назад

    Damn making such a good vid and did not even ask us to sub, man cares about making content than getting something from it wow, now I gotta sub 👏👏👏

  • @deathmetalalchemist5861
    @deathmetalalchemist5861 Год назад

    great video!

  • @qwsxedcrfv
    @qwsxedcrfv 11 месяцев назад

    This is super helpful! Also really nice to help me cope with not getting aqua for yelan cause Great Magic can do something that very, *very* few characters will be able to: give movement speed.

  • @tetianka.rozhkova
    @tetianka.rozhkova Год назад +1

    I love your guides!!:))

  • @itsamemoo1372
    @itsamemoo1372 10 месяцев назад

    This is the definitive weapon banner guide. I will be bookmarking this to share with friends who ask in the future!

  • @Bullminator
    @Bullminator Год назад +76

    A general rule is to avoid wishing on weapon banner for at least a year if you are a new player.
    When you do the world fresh and quest, you get a lot of 4 star weapons (some needs to be crafted) and free standard banner wishes will give you 5 star weapons (but at much slower pace).
    Also, your world lvl matters. Once you hit ar 45 its time to go farm weapon materials due to be more efficient.
    Events also give you 4 star weapons from time to time, but they are not as good as banner weapons (exeption is one weapon, but its gone forever).

    • @darkerdaemon7794
      @darkerdaemon7794 Год назад +3

      Ive only gotten 3 five stars from standard the 3 months ive been playing. Two of which were 5* weapons and only my most recent 5* off standard was a c3 constellation for Keqing, at 83 pity... No joke i went from having no constellation five stars to having a C3 Keqing because my last 3 out of 4 five star pulls were all Keqing. Two of which came off event banner.

    • @juice3287
      @juice3287 Год назад +1

      @@darkerdaemon7794use dendro main character with her :) will be good dmg

    • @darkerdaemon7794
      @darkerdaemon7794 Год назад

      @@juice3287 My traveler will never not be anemo. I'm not wasting funds or grinding for each typing every time. That said I do use Nahida, Kuki, Mona, and either Yoimiya or Shenhe as my main team but I've been working on Kaveh and Kirara for a back up dendro team for abyss. They are both mostly built aside from artifact's, but since I don't artifact farm I just need to level the artifacts they do have already.
      I use Keqing in abyss along with shenhe Rosaria / Ganyu and either Noelle or Xiangling. The superconduct cryo buffs and the fact my Shenhe and Rosaria are mostly physical makes this team ironically slap. Kirara and Kaveh are for a third team, probably going to use Fischl or Beidou with Candace or Barbara and might just double up on hydro or dendro for fourth slot. Hyperbloom is too good.
      I'm legit AR55 running around with a bunch of level 70 characters and teams.

    • @samirSch
      @samirSch Год назад +2

      Started in 2.8 and Bennyboy still using that 3 star green ER sword. Gonna craft him a sumeru leaf sword, but it's Xiang's lack of ER that's breaking my rational rotations.

    • @deathmetalalchemist5861
      @deathmetalalchemist5861 Год назад +7

      @@samirSch Catch is so unbelievably awful to farm but such a huge upgrade...can just fav on XL with an ER sands too as you often have enough damage with Bennett's buff in all but a few scenarios

  • @MadlyMoe
    @MadlyMoe Год назад

    Great video!

  • @ssun9074
    @ssun9074 Год назад +3

    I didn't even tough the weapon banner until relatively recently (Raiden's most recent rerun as on June 2023). I was really focused on accumulating characters because for one, I just wanted them, and that's what I felt would lend most value to my teams (getting meta units like Raiden, Yelan, and Ayaka). Finally, I went for Engulfing for Raiden (got it), and have since then bulked up my 5* weapon collection a bit. I purposefully got Mistsplitter for Ayaka, Key for Nilou and Layla, and just recently Thundering for Yoimiya. I got Dreams for Nahida and PJWS for Xiao along the way (also Skyward Pride and two Lost Prayers from the Standard Banner).
    My point here being, I definitely feel like the weapons make my characters better, but they're by no means necessary. If I didn't have the characters in the first place or the supports to utilize alongside them, the weapons would do nothing for me. I consider myself quite late game now and I decided weapons were what I wanted to spend my Primos (and a bit of real life money) on. You should almost always prioritize characters you want or will bolster your current DPSes because it's much easier to replace a 5* weapon with a 4* weapon, good artefacts, and good supports than the other way around.

  • @isoundout
    @isoundout Год назад

    Good video, new sub.
    Keep it up! :)

  • @acekill631
    @acekill631 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you for such quality explanation for the weapon Banner pull, I always pull for character only and never weapon.

  • @gbygbygbygby
    @gbygbygbygby Год назад

    Good content. I hope your account is growing

  • @JokerXtreme21
    @JokerXtreme21 Год назад

    i'm your 25th subcriber! keep up the good work!

  • @mr_pika
    @mr_pika Год назад

    love you videos💙

  • @fierybkn2717
    @fierybkn2717 Год назад +4

    "The weapon banner becomes more efficient the less you wish on it". True. I've only wished on character banners for a year and a half since I started the game and when I finally started wishing on the weapon banner for the first time I got all the weapons I was looking forward to get 😭 Ofc this is luck, but I now have ayato's, ayaka's swords, and I hope I'm getting yae's now

  • @aDushandrii
    @aDushandrii Год назад +5

    Speaking of 5star weapon value - it's important to compare it in real sutiations. In perfect world they are not so valuable, if you keep balance of stats, always playing correct etc. But just simple higher base atk became more valuable if you are often missing your buffs like bennet ult, and higher base is very pleasant in general, it make every your %atk on artifacts better. And last but not least, we don't have such a wide choise of crit 4-star weapons, basically only glitter weapons, battle pass weapons and crit catalyst. And without crit weapon it's more difficult to balance your stats in optimal way.

  • @aavishkaarwhite3222
    @aavishkaarwhite3222 Год назад

    thanks , i needed this , other guides are a bit confusing

  • @apleb7605
    @apleb7605 Год назад +3

    Very good to know. Iirc, the only time I wished on the weapon banner was during 3.2 when we had the Key and Jade Cutter. I figured I would be fine with either since I pulled Nilou and a few copies of Xiphos would also be nice.

  • @SUSSAslicer
    @SUSSAslicer Год назад

    Good video. Made me realize I'm pretty smort. I have never wished for weapon banner but there was one that was impossible to skip. The Raiden Ayato weapon banner. I ended up wishing on it because I have both characters + I needed Akuoumaru for Eula, Sacrificial Fragments and Favonious Lance copies. Insane thing is I ended up getting EVERYTHING I WANTED WITHIN 50 WISHES including both 5 star weapons!!!! Still cant believe it sometimes (I'm a.. from time to time welkin buyer).

  • @nword6232
    @nword6232 Год назад

    Great analysis

  • @beeerlord
    @beeerlord Год назад

    Awesome vidie, keep it up!

  • @nothingimportant5158
    @nothingimportant5158 Год назад

    Amazing quality. I was sure you're bigger youtuber. I would love to see you talking about each individual weapon/weapon banner and weather it's good or not

    • @Vidmiloo
      @Vidmiloo  Год назад

      The issue with making a video like that is that each weapon's value is highly dependent on the state of a genshin account. Plus, there are already several content creators making videos tailored to specific weapon banners and making weapon tier lists.
      I'd suggest zajef77 for banner overviews (from an f2p perspective) and Jello Impact with their tier list to get a general sense of which weapons are good :) obviously their assessments won't always be perfect, but they will certainly help give a jump start for personal evaluation.
      The current direction that I'd like to maintain for the channel is to have more timeless and universally applicable information, which is why I won't be doing something like banner/weapon reviews, since new characters and weapons come out all the time.

  • @rencelbalusan4910
    @rencelbalusan4910 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this, I started searching which I shall pull for the 4.1 banners and currently guaranteed for c0 Hu Tao. My scenario is that after I got c0 Hu Tao, I am considering getting Homa or her c1. I have already Xingqiu, Yelan and Zhongli for her. Considering this video, I can't consider myself as a end game player since I just started playing genshin since 3.3 phase 2.
    Also, the explanations are clear and convinced me not to waste primos for a weapon that you can't barely unless you are lucky. Especially me as f2p, it is much better to have many support characters rather than weapons you can't use for any character.

  • @kasuha
    @kasuha Год назад +20

    I couldn't agree more. Yes, weapons banner is a scam to new players but once you get enough characters, not wishing on it becomes a mistake. Everything in the game has diminishing returns and at certain stage, even getting relatively expensive weapons from the weapons banner is greater addition to the account than pulling for yet another new character.

    • @IveBeenWithBruma
      @IveBeenWithBruma 11 месяцев назад +1

      yep and the more characters you get the more resources and time goes down the drain that should be utilized on your main teams.

    • @RealLordVoldemort
      @RealLordVoldemort 8 месяцев назад +2

      I only partially agree with your comment because not pulling weapons being a mistake is only for abyss players. Anyone like me who only focuses on the main game doesn't need them, it's just over kill. My team is wiping out any and all enemies the main game has to offer and they're all using 4 star weapons that are good for them.
      5 star weapons are for abyss players, collectors or people who want to push their builds to the max. For anyone who's just hanging about and enjoying the story and gameplay, a 4 star weapon works very well for clearing content easily

  • @jivanjovan
    @jivanjovan Год назад +1

    I had 60 something pity on my weapon banner and i thought I might aswell try to snipe Aqua Simulacra during Yelan's next rerun and this video really helped me in not doing so.
    3/8 is a very low chance and I'd be wasting my EP if i did not get Aqua. Thank you so much for this video it helped a lot in potentially wasting my primogems in the far future for a banner with very little value

  • @loonastrawberry
    @loonastrawberry Год назад +3

    i simp for yelan, and thats why i decided to pull for her signature bow. but when i got it, i realized that for abyss its more effective to use favonius or stringless on yelan than just a "stick with crits". so yeah i get that 4* sometimes more useful than 5*

  • @LPphil99
    @LPphil99 Год назад +2

    I can really recommend the weapon banner, if there are two good featured weapons (like Homa and Elegy for example). You can only get something bad this way if u lose the 75/25 and this is something that can always happen (like losing 50/50 on the character banner). Following this strategy I got Homa, Elegy, Stonethresher, Jadecutter and more.

  • @viens7
    @viens7 Год назад

    Thanks for the explanation eventho i dont get it mostly lol, anw keep up the good work milo
    New subscribers gonna come