Which 5 Star Weapons are WORTH IT? (Genshin 4.7 Updated Tier List)

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  • @JelloImpact
    @JelloImpact  Месяц назад +21

    Make sure to check out this list as well as the BATTLE PASS WEAPON TIER LIST on Tacter and give it a like! really helps me (and you!) out~ www.tacter.com/genshin/guides/ultimate-weapons-tier-list-by-jello-impact-updated-for-47-4e3bdf23

    • @andrekv
      @andrekv Месяц назад +2

      c1 is better than sign for Arle. If you have a BP weapon or almost any 5*, than c1 is stronger in terms of damage. I checked its several times with differents setups
      Also, why is lost prayer is a C and kagura is A? They are both just a crit sticks for most catalists, but lost prayers is very universal weapon for onfield DPS like wriostley, wanderer, Neuvillete, double hydro hyperbloom Nahida e.t.c. And why the hell is atlas better than lost prayers???

    • @JelloImpact
      @JelloImpact  Месяц назад

      @@andrekvyou’re agreeing with me about arle and her sig? Sorry if I wasn’t clear
      Sure you can move kagura down one or lost prayer up one if you want

    • @masterjedicat
      @masterjedicat Месяц назад

      ​@@JelloImpactwhy is Skyward Atlas above Lost Prayers? Crit rate is both harder to get and more versatile than attack. Most attack scaling DPS catalysts use Bennett on their team, so attack becomes less relevant than Crit rate.

    • @andrekv
      @andrekv Месяц назад

      @@JelloImpact but you said: "For her damage, It (sign) is better than the c1, but c2 is very good". For her damage c1 is better than Sign

    • @Fidlnks
      @Fidlnks Месяц назад

      For c6 dps lynette would mistplitter or chipris weapon be best. Thinking mist just ciz lynette has no need for a geo teamate. But the crit dmg of chioris weapon.. idk

  • @Crazy--8
    @Crazy--8 Месяц назад +567

    I am in fact, not happy with my characters

    • @infernasu1876
      @infernasu1876 Месяц назад +22

      whats ur roster maybe i can give u some tips

    • @Crazy--8
      @Crazy--8 Месяц назад +75

      @@infernasu1876 Oh sorry, I was just joking. Thank you for your kindness though

    • @MrBigBazinga
      @MrBigBazinga Месяц назад +27

      @@Crazy--8You better be sorry….

    • @alatus_knight
      @alatus_knight Месяц назад +8

      Gonna cry?

    • @smolaether
      @smolaether Месяц назад +39

      @@alatus_knightI’m gonna put some dirt in your eye

  • @faerieinwonderland
    @faerieinwonderland Месяц назад +164

    Losing to Aqua Simulacra and Key of Khaj-Nisut when pulling for Lyney and Nahida’s signature weapon was the best thing that happened to me, it’s sooooo useful

    • @SylXStar
      @SylXStar Месяц назад +11

      The key is really good for Layla, and ofc it’s good for nilou

    • @veeerooooo
      @veeerooooo Месяц назад +18

      @@SylXStarfurina too and it’s great for showcases

    • @possumsam2189
      @possumsam2189 Месяц назад +7

      Key is also GOATed for Kuki.
      It is also viable for Bennett, Xingqiu, Kirara and Jean.

    • @SylXStar
      @SylXStar Месяц назад

      Does key have decent base attack?

    • @erommt1540
      @erommt1540 Месяц назад +5

      ​@@SylXStaraverage 608 base attack

  • @Shane_A_M
    @Shane_A_M Месяц назад +229

    Something else to consider when going for weapons is how these crit stat sticks makes your artifacts easier. Since you’re getting so much crit from your weapon that brings up the value of stray ATK% (especially if the weapon has high base attack, which will give you more value from these rolls) ER%, EM, HP% (depending on the character). These stat rolls can become just as good as crit ones when you have such a heavy amount on your weapon.

    • @Dimley
      @Dimley Месяц назад +10

      It's a bit of a misconception to think that ATK% rolls have more value if you have more base attack (unless you're dual scaling, like Aggravate/Spread dps). Crit weapons also don't really make ATK% rolls better as crit scales better the more you have of it (until like 300CV i think?). So while these weapons are generally great boosts to your characters and make their stat sheets look more impressive, they don't actually make building your characters any "easier".

    • @Shane_A_M
      @Shane_A_M Месяц назад +24

      ⁠@@DimleyObjectively speaking, a higher base attack will improve your yield from ATK% rolls. To use Clorinde as an example, if you’re using Finale with its 565 base attack, a 5% attack roll will give you 28.25 attack, with Absolution’s 674 base attack you’re getting 33.7 attack. It’s not much, but it does lower the threshold where attack starts being as good as crit. (Edit, while the math is technically right, it doesn’t actually have a bearing on value vs Crit rolls since it’s all relative and crit is calculated multiplicatively, thank you to the other commenter that corrected me)
      You are correct about the 300cv stat (75/150 crit ratio) where crit stats falling off, so we can calculate with that. Every character has 60cv to start with (5% rate and 50% dmg), and a circlet will give you 62 CV with its main stat. That’s 122cv, which means you need an average of 35cv on each of your artifacts before you should even think about valuing ATK%, 35cv can be really tough, especially on goblets and circlets. An 66cv weapon (for average sake, the 88cv weapons make this more crazy) lowers your average CV need on your artifacts to 22.4. That’s huge, absolutely massive and shouldn’t be understated.

    • @lafeechloe6998
      @lafeechloe6998 Месяц назад +3

      @@Dimley of course atk% is better with an higher base atk

    • @krummesblech
      @krummesblech Месяц назад +6

      Yes and no, almost all 5* DPS have crit lv up stat and there is the Hunter set.
      Also some new 5* get Bonus Passives with Crit (like Clorinde)
      All that made particularly Crit rate Weapon‘s really hard to Build.
      Characters like Rizzly, Ayaka or Clorinde are hard to build with a crit rate weapon and overcap 100% with some single crit rate rolls

    • @RareAngelz
      @RareAngelz Месяц назад +4

      Honestly, a weapon providing cv at all is super nice since crit has one of the lowest roll chances for artifacts. It's much easier to then throw on a crit circlet, get high atk/HP, and have a playable character to get you started.

  • @gizdra1128
    @gizdra1128 Месяц назад +101

    I think "lost prayer" is not that niche, I mean, you can use it with Wriothesley, scaramouche, Neuvilette, etc. While the speed bonus is meme, the damage bonus, crit, and high base attack make it a good option for dps in the field.

    • @happy_and_humble
      @happy_and_humble Месяц назад +25

      even yae miko yanfei and heizou can use it well

    • @gizdra1128
      @gizdra1128 Месяц назад

      @@happy_and_humble true

    • @natalienatz1903
      @natalienatz1903 Месяц назад +23

      I prefer it over Widsith for Wanderer since it's more consistent and don't have to worry about potentially getting the EM buff 😭

    • @darkroast9907
      @darkroast9907 28 дней назад +6

      Honestly I slot it alongside Jade Cutter and Jade Spear as a really solid generalist weapon that is usually in the top 3 for pretty much any character that can equip it.
      On-field catalyst users are really good with it.

  • @naughtaegames234
    @naughtaegames234 Месяц назад +133

    My biggest regret was not going for the banner when aqua and homa were on the banner

    • @jelouswitch1238
      @jelouswitch1238 Месяц назад +9

      Crazy how I got both + lost prayers with 100 wishes

    • @danielschomburg2140
      @danielschomburg2140 Месяц назад +1

      the only banner I've ever whaled on and I got a double pull of Homa on my 3rd try. Ended up with 2 Elegy's and 2 Homas for my whaling and it has 100% carried my account since then. Fortunate to learn my lesson that weapon banner is a scam from that particular banner.

    • @siliconhawk9293
      @siliconhawk9293 Месяц назад +1

      i did. and i got an aquila favonia

    • @owoflux6025
      @owoflux6025 Месяц назад +1

      RIP I got Aqua for my Ganyu and Yelan on that one :D hoping to get Homa in the next chronicled for my Hu Tao and my Arlecchino,

    • @adicacid
      @adicacid Месяц назад

      @@jelouswitch1238 Wait this is wild because I had literally the same experience. I was going to try my luck getting Aqua and decided to pull on the weapon banner only until I got a 5*. I got an early 5* (30/40 pity) and it turned out to be both Homa and Lost Prayers in a single 10-pull so I thought "well shit, might as well not let the EP points go to waste." I finally got Aqua after another 60+ pulls.

  • @crimsonECH1DNA
    @crimsonECH1DNA Месяц назад +91

    Honestly I think the truth with 5 star weapons now is Hoyo really doesn't make true "universal" weapons anymore. The closest we've had to one lately was Lyney's Bow, The First Great Magic, and that released all the way back in 4.0 and it's only for Charge Attack characters.
    Like I think the truth is Hoyo knows people pull way more for constellations than weapons so they hyperfocused on making signifanct buffs to the early cons of characters.

    • @horatioprout429
      @horatioprout429 Месяц назад +17

      Hey tome of eternal flow is pretty universal
      If you have Furina

    • @DefinitelyNotAFerret
      @DefinitelyNotAFerret Месяц назад +4

      @@horatioprout429 It's a decent stat stick for future hp based damage dealers though since base attack doesn't matter

    • @iker9095
      @iker9095 Месяц назад +8

      @@horatioprout429chiori’s weapon is also universal (for both albedo and female albedo and maybe furina stat stick with enough er)

    • @spartantraveler7251
      @spartantraveler7251 Месяц назад +4

      @@crimsonECH1DNA especially since they know how bad the weapon banner is and how many people view it as a scam.

    • @kapeecoffee
      @kapeecoffee Месяц назад +6

      Which is why they made weapons more fitting to a character because it'll incentivise players more into pulling for fashion reasons.

  • @solmarin_
    @solmarin_ Месяц назад +72

    Please consider doing event/craftable weapons teir list🙏

    • @timtom9198
      @timtom9198 Месяц назад +2

      That would be cool

    • @Quinton_ovo_
      @Quinton_ovo_ Месяц назад +12

      I would be sad about all the weapons I don't have XD but yeah

    • @stylerxo3654
      @stylerxo3654 Месяц назад +9

      S- Festering Desire

    • @kapeecoffee
      @kapeecoffee Месяц назад +3

      Just make a 4 star tier list at that point, else the video will be short

    • @solmarin_
      @solmarin_ Месяц назад +3

      @@kapeecoffee why,
      there are 47 five star weapons,
      And 43 craftable/event/ weapons
      46 if you include weapons you can get in exchange for fish

  • @fredxu99
    @fredxu99 Месяц назад +51

    The weapon banner's epitomized path feels like it's never worth it 😭

    • @MugWitch
      @MugWitch Месяц назад +1

      TRULY! The only one that did was KIND OF the chronicled wish one bc it didn't take two losses, but..... fate points are still the scam unless you've saved like crazy.

    • @user-eo4it2rn1f
      @user-eo4it2rn1f Месяц назад +6

      like why didnt genshin do like hsr D:

    • @MugWitch
      @MugWitch Месяц назад +14

      @@user-eo4it2rn1f Rumor has it that there’s a Lead on the Genshin dev team that is extremely stingy and conservative. They used to work on the HI3 crew and during their time on it, HI3 had been incredibly stingy about rewards, and after they left to focus on Genshin, HI3’s rewards were much more generous to the players. HSR is a different dev team that isn’t influenced by the same Lead and so they’re much more generous than Genshin.
      Again that is the rumor. Easily could just be that HI3 dropped in popularity when Genshin came out and they were generous with rewards only to entice players so that they weren’t dropped completely. HSR also is a newer game and needs to keep players on the hook so they are more generous bc there isn’t as much content to keep fans engaged like Genshin has.

    • @user-eo4it2rn1f
      @user-eo4it2rn1f Месяц назад +1

      @@MugWitch i also heard but cant confirm. prob its true but its kinda unfair :(. there are clear qol that genshin doesnt have at all and never got implemented like u farm 1 calyx and u almost get all ur daily done, although i want u can advance story in hsr and get the daily points. and in hsr there is 4 end game mode release in 1 year while genshin has 2 for 3 years

    • @MugWitch
      @MugWitch Месяц назад +2

      @@user-eo4it2rn1f oh 100% the HSR team is taking notes on what the players want and are doing their best to make it happen or come up with cool end game modes to help reward players for their time. Genshin is so far behind in that it’s silly. Even the exploration to complete dailies is rough when you’ve 100%’d everything. There’s a lot from HSR I wish Genshin would adjust, but it doesn’t seem like it will under current leadership :/

  • @lolidemon3163
    @lolidemon3163 Месяц назад +44

    Skyward atlas above lost prayer? Man i want wat jello is smoking

    • @YAOOOOOOOO966
      @YAOOOOOOOO966 Месяц назад +1

      Skyward is absolutely 100% better lol

    • @lolidemon3163
      @lolidemon3163 Месяц назад +18

      @@YAOOOOOOOO966 it honestly isn't

    • @gamercoder4551
      @gamercoder4551 27 дней назад

      Skyward is more universal to use that is why it is above lost prayer, i am pretty sure why you think lost prayer is better cause that 33% crit rate is really tempting😅 isn't it ​@@lolidemon3163

    • @soulpolska2046
      @soulpolska2046 19 дней назад +1

      More base atk and consistant elemental damage

    • @YAOOOOOOOO966
      @YAOOOOOOOO966 18 дней назад +1

      @@soulpolska2046 Name 1 catalyst user that's on field for longer than the full duration necessary to get max lost prayer stacks and that can actually make use of the stacks

  • @bigcheese3520
    @bigcheese3520 Месяц назад +35

    PJWS shouldn’t be below redhorn. PJWS is more universal. not many good claymore characters out there, let alone characters that can fully utilise redhorn. PJWS on the other hand is a universal stat stick and effect can be utilised easily

    • @hasany98
      @hasany98 Месяц назад +3

      fr ez S tier because my Xiao plunging with almost full hp lol and Arle with geo daddy

  • @simonvache156
    @simonvache156 Месяц назад +112

    "I can't think of an S tier claymore character..." Angry Navia noises in the background

    • @noodle67
      @noodle67 Месяц назад +19

      She’s A tier at best, I can’t imagine putting a carry asides maybe neurve in s

    • @ChainsSSB
      @ChainsSSB Месяц назад +19

      Only Neuvillette and maybe Arlecchino are DPS characters I would consider to be S tier, but truth is it's a very contested position so if you're not outputting crazy damage numbers like those two, then you're not cracking S tier.

    • @dottuanicuwu7842
      @dottuanicuwu7842 Месяц назад +19

      I liked her story but saying Navia is S tier is delusional dawg

    • @Shane_A_M
      @Shane_A_M Месяц назад +11

      Beidou gang let’s go.

    • @Fairy-Uvinq
      @Fairy-Uvinq Месяц назад +4

      Gaming is S tier :VVV

  • @samkerski
    @samkerski Месяц назад +8

    You run into this issue a couple times in the video, but it seems like we need a better way to destinguish between "an amazing upgrade but extremely restrictive" and "a decent upgrade but extremely versatile." You address this in the way you lay out your tiers, but I'd be curious to see if/how rankings would change between two parallel tier lists: one for "how good is it on its Intended User" and one for "how good is it on literally everybody EXCEPT its Intended User."
    . . . . unless the lists end up being super similar, then there's less to talk about.

  • @usmanya5110
    @usmanya5110 Месяц назад +13

    ngl we really need more great support weapons in the game, Elegy is amazing and can arguably be the best bow in the game, Freedom sword is good but it just doesn't feel as good and it's facing stiffer competition with Xiphos and Fav, Key and Crane are niche, but good, since key helps with dendro based teams and has other people who can use it. while Crane even if it only works on xianyun, it buffs the party plunges and it gives energy to her. Calamity is eh, it is shenhe's best but most of the time she prefers an ER weapon since she is an energy hogger as well. Jadefall, i don't know if i wanna talk about it, like it's just bad. it's not the part where it only works baizhu that i'm pissed at. i'm just pissed at it because one half is just an expensive PTA and the other half only buffs his personal damage, like wtf?? like if the stuff was shared based on healing and if the substat was ER it would have been amazing.

  • @xanaviii
    @xanaviii Месяц назад +7

    Key of Khajnisut is undervalued on Kirara. Makes her an insane buffer while also making her shield ridiculous.

  • @bjornnilsson2941
    @bjornnilsson2941 Месяц назад +7

    I’m genuinely curious how Skyward Atlas is a decent stat stick and above Lost Prayers in the tier list. I have Atlas and it’s unbuilt despite being my only 5 star catalyst cause I cannot find a decent user for it. I’d much rather have Lost Prayers because at least it’s a top 3 contender for Wanderer. But if you know something I don’t please do share 😅

  • @gamerockz2141
    @gamerockz2141 Месяц назад +44

    Lost prayer should be at least in A- tier. It's a really good weapon with good stats and passive.

    • @SebastianThebrave
      @SebastianThebrave Месяц назад +1

      The passive will rarely proc unless you're playing an on field main dps catalyst user. Widsith exists and should be up every rotation. It's placement is 100% justified

    • @gamerockz2141
      @gamerockz2141 Месяц назад +20

      @@SebastianThebrave but widsith buff is very random. Sometimes you may never even get the required passive. The weapon is really great for Wanderer, Neuvillette and Wriothesley if crit rate is very low.

    • @SebastianThebrave
      @SebastianThebrave Месяц назад +2

      @@gamerockz2141 there isn't an undesirable buff on the widsith. The argument was "it's a really good weapon with good stats and passive". A universally good passive regardless of what it lands on IS BETTER than a passive that won't activate at all. And to that end if you're relying on that specific passive to proc to justify using the weapon at all, then your artifacts need some serious work

    • @randompersonontheinternet1038
      @randompersonontheinternet1038 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@SebastianThebraveit's a dps weapon i think😂

    • @gamerockz2141
      @gamerockz2141 Месяц назад +11

      @@SebastianThebrave I use Lost prayers mainly for Wanderer even though I have 2 R5 widsiths. It really suits him. The weapons passive takes time for stacking but helpfully for any on field carry catalyst user. But widsith passive is inconsistent.

  • @arthurabraham3271
    @arthurabraham3271 Месяц назад +5

    Lol, I literally pulled Furina yesterday and am ready to vertically invest. You timed me on this one!

  • @metehancelik661
    @metehancelik661 Месяц назад +6

    Been waiting for a updated tierlist. Great video ❤

  • @thewackykid
    @thewackykid Месяц назад +6

    how is lost prayers in C or D and lower than skyward atlas...? it is one of the better standard banner weapon and a good stat stick.. the movement speed passive is useless but the elemental dmg bonus is good for onfield dps char...

    • @Lucario-ct9ln
      @Lucario-ct9ln 2 дня назад

      Well let me tell you that speed bonus is generally not useless.
      I run it with my wanderer without shield and he can dodge almost every projectile attack without even using dash.

  • @marcuscooper9544
    @marcuscooper9544 Месяц назад +8

    This didn't start well for me, since I'm using R2 Amos on my Tighnari... I'm not sure standard banner 5*s should be included here, because you're never going to choose to pull for them.

    • @hectorlackless
      @hectorlackless Месяц назад +2

      Some people still can choose to get them like when ganyu or xiao rerun because they are their "signature" although amos makes no sense

    • @7ambo
      @7ambo Месяц назад +1

      Aside from the Skyward series, the other standard banner weapons like Gravestone, Lost Prayer, Aquila, Jade Spear, and in your case, Amos, have actually been rate up weapons on banners in the past. In the case of Amos, it is Ganyu's signature weapon and thus would run alongside her banners and would need to be taken into consideration. I also think that it probably doesn't hurt - if you lost to one of the standard weapons - to see where it ranks in the grand scheme of things.

  • @LumpySpaceNinja
    @LumpySpaceNinja Месяц назад

    This is a video I never knew I wanted until now, but I did make my own 5 star weapon tier list/wishlist recently

  • @ElTestok
    @ElTestok Месяц назад

    22:43 *"16% Elemental DMG Bonus is higher than what Mistsplitter does."*
    Can you tell me where Uraku Misugiri provides Elemental Dmg bonus?
    As far as can see, it provides *Normal Attack DMG* , and *Skill DMG.*
    I don't see anywhere where is also provides Elemental Dmg Bonus.

  • @randomguy-yl2ml
    @randomguy-yl2ml Месяц назад +2

    okay this is a pretty weird idea but what about a tierlist of sorts maybe more like a power chart of characters at differenrt cons, like obviously like razor is naturally worse than xinqiu, but c6 razor against c0 xinqiu isnt as close and everyone has different random cons. im for example wandering what to do with my tighnari since ive never even tried him and i have his c3 and whether or not that means i should be investing time into him or not

  • @SolitarySoliloquy
    @SolitarySoliloquy Месяц назад +4

    Omg, I'm so early! Also do you plan on making the pre-natlan tier list soon, or after Emilie is released?

    • @JelloImpact
      @JelloImpact  Месяц назад +5

      After Emilie. I’m dying to have to wait lol

  • @brisonCAD
    @brisonCAD Месяц назад +1

    What do you mean Calamity Queller is not good on Shenhe?

  • @stratta_yt
    @stratta_yt Месяц назад +3

    I just pulled Light of Foliar and my Alhaitham is now hitting the big numbers.
    Pretty big upgrade from Mistsplitter and Wolf Fang.
    Plus it's drippy as hell on him.

  • @alicrastd3095
    @alicrastd3095 Месяц назад

    I use Wolf Fang on my Furina because I don’t have great one handed sword options, but it seems pretty strong on her. Any opinions?

  • @NamelessJohan
    @NamelessJohan Месяц назад +2

    this video dropped at a perfect time, I was just about to pull for Farina's weapon, lets see the verdict :))

  • @TJF588
    @TJF588 Месяц назад +2

    I've lucked into Amos' Bow, Skyward Blade, and Wolf's Gravestone, which are respectively on Ganyu, Bennett, and Eula right now. Had Diluc with the Serpent Spine (so cracked paired with Zhongli), but then Itto needed something something...

  • @ladynikkie
    @ladynikkie Месяц назад +2

    as an f2p player I really don't wish on the weapon banner that much unless it's for specific characters I want to get their signature weapons for. My luckiest pull was song of broken pines and I did a single pull on that. A lucky loss with Staff of Houma when I was trying to get tomb of eternal flow and my best wish was crimson moons semblance.
    Amos bowl was my very first five star weapon

  • @Crazy--8
    @Crazy--8 Месяц назад +1

    Tacter is holding great promise! Looking forward to all the helpful things that will come out of it

  • @God_Reaper_6000
    @God_Reaper_6000 Месяц назад +5

    Finally you said it, soss is actually the best polearm in the game, the only character it's not good on is xiao😂

  • @escapich
    @escapich Месяц назад +3

    Lost Prayer a few tiers lower than Floating Dreams, Skyward Atlas and Kagura is a take of all time. Even if just comparing to Skyward Atlas it is more versatile and brings more damage because of Bennett

  • @cuipid
    @cuipid Месяц назад +2

    this video was so informative thank you!! i’m a relatively new player (6 months) so i’m still learning a lot of the basics - i would love a guide on which artifact domains are most “worth it” to farm in terms of the collective value, flexibility, potential uses of the two sets available! i’ve spent some time farming certain domains only to learn that one of the sets is fairly useless / niche for me, so i’d find it super helpful!

    • @ktaehyun
      @ktaehyun 24 дня назад +1

      if you have furina, the hunter and golden troupe domain is really worth farming for. next is momiji, since emblem and shimenawa is universal!

  • @AfterAFashionASMR
    @AfterAFashionASMR Месяц назад +6

    Can’t see the final tier list because of end cards over the screen 😢 Could you post it in community tab too?

    • @JelloImpact
      @JelloImpact  Месяц назад +1

      It’s on tacter in the link!

  • @maestro2073
    @maestro2073 Месяц назад +2

    I lost 2 times to uraku while trying to get itto's weapon but I lowkey fw it, it has been my go to sword for clorinde and furina and I'm more than surprised by its' performance

  • @ElTestok
    @ElTestok Месяц назад +2

    I was surprised when you said Calamity Queller is *realy Not good for Shenhe..*
    I'm guessing this probably has something to do with ER% requirements?
    However, I've been running Calamity Queller on Shenhe in my Ayaka / Shenhe / Kazuha / Kokomi team, and I haven't encountered any energy issues. Her build is very nice with Atk% main stats pieces and a focus on ER% and Atk% / flatAtk sub stats.
    It's also giving me a better buff than any other weapons I've tried so far.
    I would probably say Engulfing Lightning is 2nd best for me as it really makes her playstyle more comfortable and allows you to focus less on ER% sub stats.. but if your build is good enough, Calamity Queller is fine.
    I'd probably say Favonius Lance is also a great choice. A significantly lower buff, but easier to build and helps the team with energy.
    I'm interested to know more about the difficulties you and others have had when using Calamity Queller. If anyone has some more insight, please don't hesitate to share!

  • @ashton-ryantaylor5297
    @ashton-ryantaylor5297 Месяц назад +1

    Another Jello tier list! Time to lock in 😌

  • @MN-xh7yu
    @MN-xh7yu 21 день назад

    Weapons we don't see anymore on weapons banners like unforge or MoD should be added to Paimon Shop. When will they update the shop? Add a 3rd 4* character to the rotation at least so we can get characters that aren't just launch ones

  • @ironwoodkid9577
    @ironwoodkid9577 Месяц назад

    i would appreciate something similar but for 5* constellations, i know most units benefit the most from C1/C2, but it's quite hard for me to figure out which C1 is more valuable than another C1 etc.

  • @user-eo4it2rn1f
    @user-eo4it2rn1f Месяц назад

    arlechinno: pay to see
    nilou: pay to unsee but powerful
    like who design the weapons and the contraste between some like furina vs yoimiya sig. why crit rate is worse than crit dmg, it makes easier to build no? since u crit more well ur crits, does overcap happends a lot? why primordial jade cutter in s, is the buffing good even for non hp scallers?

  • @paulamblard3836
    @paulamblard3836 Месяц назад +4

    how Lost Prayer can be under Skyward Atlas ?

    • @kangketokmagic
      @kangketokmagic 26 дней назад

      lost player under atlas is not weird, jello already put purple donut over amos

  • @ImAaronTV
    @ImAaronTV Месяц назад

    If i ever pull on the weapon banner it'll probably be when there's a good 5 star sword and a good 5 star catalist bc for the other weapon types i already have Skyward Harp and Jade Spear

  • @sarahelizabeth5276
    @sarahelizabeth5276 Месяц назад

    I always felt bad about wasting two ten pills in the weapon banner as a newbie so I tried my luck on one of raiders reruns doing singles and got EL at 68 wishes in. I consider that insane luck but I can't see you g for any more unless it's another aqua/home just bc I love character and team mix ups. But yeah the power would be nice too.

  • @cutthroatcare
    @cutthroatcare Месяц назад

    I rolled Beacon for my Diluc so it can be dual-useful in Burgeon Diluc and Plunge Diluc. It's honestly been a huge upgrade and though I despise the evil weapon banner, I am glad I got it. I was one of maybe 9 people who got Baizhu's signature weapon on purpose, and altho I know Protoype works great too, I just bit the bullet for ease of playing him because his weapon really do hit all his weak points and helps lift him up. Now my Baizhu is a tank of healer between that and him being C1 for the extra skill charge. Furina and Arlecchino's weapons were mostly gotten for the drip when I got the characters. Getting Lyney's signature on accident convinced me to get him as a character and try him out, and I'm increasingly glad I did, but I'm positive having his weapon helps make him easier than he may be otherwise.
    Basically get a weapon because you truly want it, as they're gonna require rolling devotion even more than trying for a character does!

  • @traplegend5065
    @traplegend5065 Месяц назад +2

    Verdict is the best because its best for navia...
    I spent like 35k primos on her and verdict, but atleast I got 2 misplitters which have had alot of use since

  • @sueyu7536
    @sueyu7536 Месяц назад

    gonna try getting elegy and jade cutter one day! just to have an in one support weapon and a general dps wep, i think my account can be complete and then ill pull sigs w/o worry for primos

  • @Fidlnks
    @Fidlnks Месяц назад

    YAYYYY been waiting for this video, guess what I did a standard pull today with 7 pity and got a 5 star!!! And it was skyward pride😭😭still dope tho
    My first early 5 star in over 400days of playing! Felt so good

  • @adina6255
    @adina6255 Месяц назад

    all I would like on my account are yelan and zhongli, then I would like to focus on wishing for more weapons! this will be very helpful for me in the future

  • @oxigeno3234
    @oxigeno3234 Месяц назад +28

    Even if it's on a low tier, if you pull a not wanted 5 star weapon or randomly get one on standard banner, almost every five star weapon is better than a 4 star option as a stat stick. My Ayaka does more damage with an aquila favonia than with any other 4 star weapon. And my Wolfs Gravestone Navia destroys abyss

    • @BinggomanLive
      @BinggomanLive Месяц назад +10

      Amenoma Kageuchi gives you a lot of energy recharge for Ayaka though, so you can build Atk or Crit more for her with her artifacts. With R5 Amenoma you can run Ayaka with 100% (base/default) ER.

    • @stylerxo3654
      @stylerxo3654 Месяц назад +2

      I'd rather have Amenoma than Favonia on Ayaka 💀💀

    • @briecarla556
      @briecarla556 Месяц назад +1

      Burst uptime is better than raw damage for me

    • @sakaom
      @sakaom Месяц назад

      agreed. people replying forgot about energy batteries, venti's refund, favs and more. if you know how to play optimally, energy becomes trivial.

    • @sinja4578
      @sinja4578 Месяц назад +2

      Not always true. The Fontaine craftable is DEFINITELY better than Aquila

  • @AlwaysThirstys
    @AlwaysThirstys Месяц назад +1

    Just saying key is better than furina sig if you are triggering reactions such as in furinational.

  • @genshinarchive98
    @genshinarchive98 Месяц назад

    funny how this video came out when I finally started pulling on the weapon banner for furina's weapon LOL

  • @hacflodaweeb
    @hacflodaweeb Месяц назад

    I pulled for a signature weapon for the first time during my whole 2 and a half years account. Lost to Sigewinne's sig twice and I finally got Furina's weapon. I'm F2P and going forward, I'll just focus on getting and building the 5 star characters I need before getting signature weapons.

  • @Defiancy
    @Defiancy Месяц назад +2

    I lost to Key like a year ago on Nahida’s banner. But now I’m so happy that I have it cause C2 Furina, especially on vape teams. Guess things just work out sometimes

    • @christophwhiteyz9787
      @christophwhiteyz9787 Месяц назад

      Key is so good saving up should see nilou soon

    • @Defiancy
      @Defiancy Месяц назад

      @@christophwhiteyz9787 Yeah it’s great. I’m gonna go for Nilou as well on her next banner :)

  • @browncat5252
    @browncat5252 Месяц назад

    I want Key of Khaj-Nisut sooo bad. I don't even have Nilou but the design is so cool to me that I don't even care. Looking forward to using it on kuki and maybe testing it with Furina!

  • @Kraken-Oz
    @Kraken-Oz Месяц назад

    What do you mean by crit damage is better than crit rate? It just depends on your stats and I find a lot of people neglect crit rate but generally they're the same. Or do you just mean that you can't overcap crit damage?
    Also, just a small suggestion - in tier list please say which tier the thing goes into instead of "it goes here", makes it much easier for people who just listen :)

    • @gym4379
      @gym4379 Месяц назад

      Crit damage doesn't overcap crit rate and makes building easier tbh...

  • @KoiinuNe
    @KoiinuNe Месяц назад

    1st 5* weapon was Amos. carried me for a good 1.5 years. then i activiely started going for weapons in 2022 on Itto's banner and i actually went for Xiao and his weapon when he had rerun. i knew it was on standard, but still xDD glad to see that some of the weapons i went for are pretty good/universal

  • @emmanueldlauron
    @emmanueldlauron Месяц назад +1

    I stopped watching after he put the PJWS in line with The Scythe.
    He put the put The Sycthe on A- 'cause it's restricted to Arlecchino.
    Then PJWS beacuse may be almost everyone can use it?!
    Inconsistent.

  • @OyVeey
    @OyVeey Месяц назад

    I think you put Foliar a bit too low. It provides more total CV than any other weapon, and Alhaitham's early constellations are so underwhelming that it's definitely a higher priority than them if you're maining him. It's also a good option for Clorinde Aggravate teams.

  • @yahikonightray5398
    @yahikonightray5398 15 дней назад

    Great vid...

  • @Z41N_51
    @Z41N_51 Месяц назад

    I'm almost done getting all the 5* I want im just missing arlecchino and navia then I'll save for verdict (please make a written navia guide)

  • @rexchinxah344
    @rexchinxah344 Месяц назад

    though i know all these i completely frogot bout it and went mayhem on Chlrinde's weapon and lost 50/50 TWICE (both on hard pity) but still went for her weapon till i got it,which might cost me to probably not getting Furina😭

  • @boringfactor8792
    @boringfactor8792 Месяц назад

    I low-key regret not getting chiori and her wep but i was insanely clouded by arlechinno ill try and get her on a re run

  • @lin_lin_lin
    @lin_lin_lin Месяц назад

    maybe a tier list for the weapon banner exclusive 4* weapon? or just all 4* in general

  • @polarroars68
    @polarroars68 Месяц назад +1

    i think skyward atlas and lost prayer need to be swapped because it gives crit and its passive is good for sustained dmg dealers

  • @Noah-gn2gu
    @Noah-gn2gu Месяц назад

    Support weapons are great and I think out of all the weapons, they deserve to be pulled as if they were characters. Support weapons can elevate "bad" characters to usable.
    Freedom Sworn on Jean is a huge buff to her. It also makes Kirara viable for Alhaitham. Heck, it can even be used to make Albedo a buffer with Archaic Petra.
    Elegy makes Amber viable (she can reach something like 80% ATK buff and 100 EM with Elegy, C6, Noblesse, and Pyro res).
    Wandering Evenstar is competitive with Thousand Floating Dreams on Nahida. TFD makes Lisa a decent team buffer on top of her DEF shred.
    Makhaira Aquamarine makes C6 Sayu actually good.
    Xiphos' Moonlight can help with energy while not compromising EM entirely on Kazuha or Kirara or even Sunfire Jean.
    My favorite is that C4 Razor with Song of Broken Pines and Noblesse is actually a decent support for Raiden. (15% shred, 40% ATK, and ATK SPD.) He doesn't compromise too much damage with the field time necessary to procc SoBP unlike other claymore users, and he actually uses the stats.

  • @wolfiee6209
    @wolfiee6209 21 день назад

    If there’s ever a banner I’m considering passing on a character to try for my first weapon it’s nilous my pity is only 30 from just pulling after i got a character occasionally but never had a 5 star on the weapon banner before so considering going for the key over nilou herself

    • @wolfiee6209
      @wolfiee6209 21 день назад

      And if i managed to get a weapon and didn’t get the key or verdict as long as i didn’t get the skyward atlas I’d be happy since thats the only weapon I’ve gotten from standard so far

  • @Geneva1906
    @Geneva1906 Месяц назад

    Light of Foliar Incision is also really great on Ayaka. Hunters Path is also Thignari's bis.

  • @VetriVade
    @VetriVade 5 дней назад

    Jadefall splendor is BIS for baizhu but its a shame no one else can fully utilize it (yet)

  • @hectorlackless
    @hectorlackless Месяц назад

    Most of my 5 star weapons were me being silly with a couple pulls and genshin rewarding me for it, except the first great magic, I wanted the arleccino signature because I have no good lances for dps

  • @S22GAMEING22
    @S22GAMEING22 Месяц назад

    After seen fontain power creep, the characters who can use any low investment/f2p/craftable weapon and still clear enemies almost like their signature weapons .
    Imo I should pull new characters and their cons because all fontain characters having good c1/c2 .
    And we also getting the theatre (end game) in few days ,and they wanted us to use more characters to clear . So I will prefer 5* characters over any 5* weapons .
    As an f2p we getting 50 pulls avarage on each patch so we can garanty a characters in 160 pulls and it takes more than 3 patches and if u need to garanty a specific weapon u need atleast 210 so it takes over 4 patch of saving.
    So imo 5* characters should be better for f2p players.

  • @fauvniasz
    @fauvniasz 25 дней назад

    I actually regret getting thundering pulse just because the difference between it and rust r5 is like 2-3k which just isnt worth it to me :,)

  • @wansper9297
    @wansper9297 Месяц назад

    Maybe ask Tacter if they can ad a note fuction, so you can add really short notes to specific objects to explain nice uses for things or something
    Edit: or is this already a thing? Now I'm confused

  • @vapeur5620
    @vapeur5620 17 дней назад

    i did calcs for SigeWinne weapon : it's slighly over favonius at 170% ER, comparable to Favonius at 180-190 and worse after 210-220ER, slighly better than Moun's Moon at low ER but a world behind Hunter path and Aqua simulacra

  • @OrangeBanana836
    @OrangeBanana836 Месяц назад

    this is perfect for me bc I now have all the rerun characters I want (after i got alhaitham) so I decided to pull for his weapon and not surprisingly got scammed lol lost 50/50 twice and still didnt get his weapon

  • @harshitjha4392
    @harshitjha4392 Месяц назад +1

    First one here dude I really love you videos ❤❤❤

  • @FlareBattle
    @FlareBattle Месяц назад +6

    Happy to see Uraku so high up. I pulled it in advance, simply had a good feeling about it.
    I use it on Clorinde and have Yun Jin to proc its effect. It’s honestly awesome.

    • @Catgatroid
      @Catgatroid Месяц назад +4

      As an Itto main, I ended up with Uraku too by accident, but I honestly couldn't have been happier. I wish I had gotten like 3 of them, because Furina/Albedo/Chlorinde work so well with it.

    • @ktaehyun
      @ktaehyun 24 дня назад

      i also got uraku last time while pulling redhorn for noelle and it’s really good for my dps kazuha build while waiting for another mistsplitter rerun (skipped navia and ayaka rerun)

  • @Chaos.Kraken
    @Chaos.Kraken Месяц назад

    My favorite part about your tier list videos is always the comment section 😂

  • @shonenhikada9254
    @shonenhikada9254 Месяц назад

    where is Clorinde's weapon?

  • @violetbilodeau
    @violetbilodeau Месяц назад

    I have two silvershower heartstrings that I don't want are they useful for anyone other than Sigewinne?

    • @baizhu
      @baizhu Месяц назад +2

      nope. the only 2 characters aside from sigewinne that like the hp main stat are yelan and diona, and the passive is effectively useless considering neither of them can get the +28 ultimate crit rate buff. diona and yelan both want favonius or sacrificial anyway

    • @violetbilodeau
      @violetbilodeau Месяц назад

      @@baizhu thanks for the info!

  • @felixstep2066
    @felixstep2066 13 дней назад

    I agree with Aqua being on S tier, however, i just dont find this weapon that good on Yelan, and is not because the weapon is bad by any means, but Elegy and Favonius for me is just strong for different teams and the ER is quite important on her, Especially in teams where she is the only Hydro applicator in the teams.

  • @stylerxo3654
    @stylerxo3654 Месяц назад

    I disagree with some placements, like Mistsplitter being recommended over Foliar and Furina and Xianyun's signatures being so high, but I think it's fine. I'd also keep Key in A.

  • @actrose4272
    @actrose4272 Месяц назад

    Of course this video comes out after I pulled for Absolution and after loosing twice on it as well

  • @Kozmo-Kamuy
    @Kozmo-Kamuy Месяц назад

    Then what is ganyu Best bow

  • @ravissary79
    @ravissary79 Месяц назад

    Weapons I'd consider refining... if possible:
    Aqua Simulacra
    Beacon of the Reed Sea
    Key of Kagh-nasut
    PJC
    ...and maybe...
    Staff of Homa
    SoSS
    Weapons i don't have but want:
    Alhaithams sword
    Mist Splitter
    Red Horn
    Engulfing Lightning
    Polar Star? 🤷‍♂️

  • @evadesp
    @evadesp Месяц назад

    low key came out at the perfect time, but I know the weapons I need for my account. (my roster only contains two 5 stars)

  • @elijahswanson619
    @elijahswanson619 Месяц назад

    I wish that it was easier and not as hard to get 5* weapons. I never wish on the weapon banner even though I have good characters and teams so I could improve them with their 5* weapons, but the weapon banner is not really that good and I prefer to get characters than weapons because I have more re fun getting characters to improve teams more than get the characters signature. Cons are better most of the time anyway. I did get very lucky getting Clorinde’s signature because my brother did a pull and got very early pity, but most of the time that doesn’t happen. I am happy that I got her weapon.

  • @Lamoonisa
    @Lamoonisa 2 дня назад

    Thanks, now I am feeling happy with my Nilou weapon when I pulled navia not nilou

  • @GenesiisDavid
    @GenesiisDavid Месяц назад

    There was just no way I wasn't getting arlecchino's weapon lol. The drip was too much

  • @darkroast9907
    @darkroast9907 28 дней назад

    Lost Prayer is really good on nearly every catalyst user wtf. It's consistently the second or third best weapon on basically everyone.

  • @pranavdatta2059
    @pranavdatta2059 Месяц назад

    Memory of dust >>> How is shit like Furina, arlecchino, Navia niche ahh weapon above doing in A-. Memory of dust can ve used on any dps and ve good also WGS C ???

  • @PirateKingMonkeyDLuffy
    @PirateKingMonkeyDLuffy Месяц назад

    Hi Jello!

  • @alvin081988
    @alvin081988 Месяц назад

    Happy with my Roster Both Characters and Weapons but there are some constellations i wish i had even if it's just C1 for some 5 Stars or C6 with 4 stars

  • @stormgamesyt
    @stormgamesyt Месяц назад

    I have a grand total of 1 pity on the weapon banner. Why? Well because I thought that *maybe* I might've gotten really lucky 😭.

  • @adityathakkar4301
    @adityathakkar4301 Месяц назад

    I am just not happy with artifacts, grinding for them is boring, running out of mora is so easy and u might just end up having bad substat rolls for last 2 make it trash. And no loadouts to make sure u can switch accoring to teams

  • @SerssVlog
    @SerssVlog Месяц назад

    Uraku over mistplitter and light of foliar? so many weird choises lmao

  • @TheGarner0
    @TheGarner0 Месяц назад

    Definitely want a new CD polearm to come out my xiao needs a new pogo stick

  • @faiyazabedin6860
    @faiyazabedin6860 10 дней назад

    Redhorn is so niche beacon should be s tier for simply being the best claymore

  • @tinyzoo727
    @tinyzoo727 Месяц назад

    As a diehard eula fan, I agree with you, she will be forever my main but for someone who doesn't just pull for looks/personality, another character would be a better pull