1. Xianyun should be with Yelan, her c2 is amazing. 2. One thing I kind of danced around but didn't get to say is: the nice thing about vertically investing is it lightens the load your artifacts have to do for you. which is nice to have less stress when farming to still dumpster the abyss.
true. i did experience with my raiden c2. although i have good artifacts on her like 67/157 CR and 250 ER without engulfing and with c6 chev overload she does above 400k damage in her ult. which i never achieved in 1 year of playing this game
*Baizhu* should also be on c2, as it consolidates his off-field support role for hyper-carries with long on-field time (he can _only_ support on-field Cyno _properly_ with it, for example).
@@polychromaa idk about that, nahida c2 is broken, def shred gives u a bit more dmg then furina c1 and then you have 20% increase for hyperbloom dmg, what are like third of the team dmg and are not effected by furina c1. I'd argue they are at least the same in primogem spend(that's nahida c2 around double furina c1). Furina c1 is just cheaper upgrade.
@@user-eo4it2rn1f a 5 star can easily cost 160 pulls. Nahida from c0 to c2 can easily cost 320 if you get unlucky. Furina c0 to c1 only costs 160, which is half as much. C1 Furina is more damage per primogem investment, cheaper, and arguably more versatile
@@ferend4038 using furina instead of the other 2 xingqius potentially allows for less hyperblooms and more quicken uptime. Talent damage and quicken damage is already a bigger percentage of the teams damage than before furina. Additionally, c1 furina nullifies kuki’s lackluster fanfare stacking. Not only is furina’s c1 cheaper, it is also more cost efficient
For anyone who have Neuvillette, i will highly recommend you to pull for his c1 first then his sig because not only will you get 100% resistance to interruption but you can also run him double hydro with furina without losing his 3rd draconic stack
thank you! I came here to see which one is better because i don't have Kazuha so i will pull for him and i was debating if i should get Neuv C1 or his Weapon.
I get your point, but he does so much dmg by himself, especially with his weapon, that having a shielder or Dehya on his team/dead slot for just interrupt res is not even a problem lol 😭Also his weapon is pretty transferable, so I like that a lot (slaying with my Klee on Furina teams with it ngl ngl)
@@Szczurzyslawa his signature is not guaranteed unless you have so much wishes saved, then yes you can go for it. But this is only my preference cuz I've been using him since 4.1, I'll recommend his c1 over his signature because then you won't have to use a shielder everytime using him and you can use two hydro characters which also gives hydro resonance
@@lighty2884 Yeah as I said I totally get you! I was lucky to win his weapon on the homa banner so there was no losing there, hence, I decided to pull and have no regrets hah. I have really bad artifact luck so having such a huge crit stat stick is great for me specifically
thank you for this!! i already have c1 kazuha and i really really want neuvi so i've been wondering as well, hope i win his 50/50 🥹 if i have extra wishes and the weapon banner is decent i might go for his sig but also..... i want to save for furina cons too hahaha
Lyney main here, C2R2, giving his take. His C1 definitely makes the rotations feel snappier and shorter for max stacks. It also gives himself his own personal healing capabilities outside of utilizing his burst for an extra stack, which is sooo comfy. It’s hard to say which to commit to though, cause his weapon is also so good for him. I think C1 for more comfort, and weapon for damage. I personally got the weapon first, and then invested in cons. I think vertical investment should be: 1st- either c1 or First Great Magic 2nd- the one you didn’t get prior 3rd- C2, I felt a BIG boost from this, very nice. Past C2, I guess you’re truly a certified Lyney main, props you’re committed to the Top Hat Sleeper Agent.
Xianyun roll priorities are C2 (basically doubles her buff) > Weapon (team dmg buff and energy for XY) > C1 (comfort). She should be in the same tier as Yelan on your list.
Only reason I went for her weapon over cons was cuz I didn’t have any good f2p weapons for her and I wanted the comfort of ER and healing over dmg. But will definitely get her c2 on her rerun!
My daughter has and loves Furina, Navia, and Diluc, among others. She shares Navia's weapon with Diluc and sees a significant difference with that versus his 4* claymore.
As someone who mains Diluc and really wanted to get Navia too (but I lost the 5050 unfortunately) she has great taste! I too looked longingly at Verdict, but I was just simply too poor. She's so lucky to have all three *and* Furina!
I only need one constellation, and it's Dehya's C1. I only need one weapon, and it's Dehya's weapon. It is a cowardly destiny that refuses me both of these things, but I will not give up.
C2 Kazuha is peak convenience for building your other characters. For Aggravate and VVape you just don’t have to stress about getting enough EM substats anymore.
As a c2 Nahida haver and c1 Furina haver. Yes the power and flexibility they provide really trivializes the abyss. I love that they bring so many characters’ c0 performance up to being strong. I prefer that over hyperinvesting into onfield DPSs. But for those who like to main a specific character, this way of ranking is quite helpful. Great video idea and I agree with most of your takes. Again I value flexibility so I would put some of the more universal signatures higher but for what the list is trying to do I think you nailed it
I got Baizhu C1 on accident and it's pretty damn good. It lowers the ER requirements so much that mine just wears Dragonslayers and I always have his burst on cooldown. Can't imagine him without it.
I only have Baizhu at C0 but at like level 9 friendship bc of how often I use him. His ER requirements can be rough to get his shield back up. C1 is definitely something I’m considering next time he reruns!
I feel like sacrificial is easily equivalent to that. I have sac instructor baizhu and I could easily ramp up my burst with full hp% and still heal quite big. So c1 is kind of redundant. Maybe cuz I have good ER substat but that's my take.
@@jazzywuzzydoubunhgu2944 For sure, it's something to get if you love him of course. I just use mine with Beidou all the time and I like snapshotting her burst.
Raiden signature weapon is very great, not only in Bennettless teams, 85% of ER makes her teams and herself work so smooth in case of pressing bursts by cooldown. I actually feel like for now if you want to use her as carry or even in rational you should have her on C2R1, it’s really enjoyable.
Before I got my C1R1 Neuv my account was in rough shape, I was having tons of trouble clearing domains and bosses solo, the abyss was a joke, my main DPS was Tighnari and I had terrible artifacts for him because they were so annoying to farm. Neuvillette just shot my account up so much it's unbelievable, the game can still be challenging at times but I no longer fear any monster or boss.
since youre almost done with making guides on everyone in the game, its nice to see you make new types of content for the playerbase. keep up the good work and i hope you get mona soon
Wanderer definitely does not prefer Wriothesley's weapon, it's an option when you run Furina teams but Wanderer Furina teams are extremely clunky to play. Both Faruzan and arguably Zhongli are required on his team. Cashflow is just objectively worse in this team unless you get hit on purpose.
I'm not gonna lie, I'd argue c1 or c2 or weapon for Nilou. c1 makes here on-field actually viable due to the longer duration. There's also her ring lasting long, causing more blooms for the team. c2 has the same increase to her bloom teams as c2 nahida, which is honestly insane Then again, I'm speaking as a nilou main without key and a vape build too. Edit: apologies about c1 nilou, it only increases damage for on-field stance, not duration, but the ring still lasts longer.
nah, i happed to draw the key by dumb luck (I didn't know what i was doing when i drew on that banner), and i've played nilou with and without it. the buff to nilou is insane with the key. i mean night and day difference.
@@xdragon2k jamie had video on that topic. The conclusion was that this sword is still more close to literally any other em sword then to her sig. Her signature is actually crazy and you can even argue versatile(it can be used by furina/kukie/kirara etc)
Key still better because of the amount of stats and also without key you can't max your buff. For C2 nahida vs nilou i agree its almost the same with C2 nahida gives you more satisfying big damage and C2 nilou is more comfortable to play Edit : C1 nahida for nilou is also good because you get trigger interval reduction which usually you can't get
Everyone says "don't do it, you'll regret it" but some people just don't understand. I always go for C2 R5 on 5*s and C6 for 4*s. I also level up to 8 everyone's Normal Attacks. I get worried they won't be able to defend themselves. 😅
Ah, so you found the excessively vocal “characters over constellations” group 😂 I ignore them because I play off-meta team comps with bad artifacts that need carrying by 5* weapons or overpowered supports. I also level normal attacks because it helps out in domains and Abyss runs when you know you don’t need the whole elemental burst rotation to end the encounter.
To clarify for Wanderer, his optimal rotation actually changes drastically based on his weapon/cons/artifacts. For highest value, Wriothesley or Neuv’s weapon and using CA spam will get you the most bang for your primos. Go Furina, slap Marechausse on him. You could also go for C1 or C2. But they’re less of a bump. At C6 though his signature is better and NA spam is better. Echoes of an Offering also becomes his BiS set. So if you got Wes or Neuv’s weapon for him they just go down the drain. For Nahida, her weapon is actually just straight up worse in pure aggravate teams than R5 Wandering Evenstar. So gotta keep that in mind. Her C1 is actually really good for the extended burst duration in pure aggravate if you play those teams. Baizhu’s C2 increases his damage by a crazy amount. It’s like 30-40%. So it’s worth considering if you’re using him.
For Klee, I'd say C2 is better, because it gives her the rare def debuff. For Yae, C2. It boosts the damage her E and that range boost. Meanwhile, Widsith exists, and we have Troupe and Furina, both of whom provide a lot of DMG, lowering the value of the DMG the weapon provides, while in aggravate teams, there's often Nahida, who buffs EM, which gets turned into DMG... For Navia, I believe her cons are the way to go, especially if you are a BP payer. But the weapon has so much drip ;)
thank you thank you THANK YOU! i've had all my fave characters for a while now so i've been wondering what to pull, this video is a lifesaver and definitely made me reconsider what i want to invest in
For Neuvillette, if you spend money on the game, I would get C1 over weapon. R1 Sac Jade is only 10% behind his sig, and R5 is within 1% in furina teams. Its cheaper to buy 5 battle passes than to get guarantee his sig, even if funding it exclusivly through welkins over 10 months. Sac Jade also comes with all the other benefits of the paid battle pass.
Naah bro. I have c0 neuvillette with his signature. Signature weapon is a significant upgrade to him. Check it once again . There is a huge difference in the dmg.
C6R5 nuev user(yes i whale, dont shit on me),the sig is just too good compared to any other weapons out there,like it reduced ur overall energy cost and u can run a hp circlet(if needed)
@@DailyCatalyst101 I think you have to compare it to a good 4 star weapon + his c1 bonus vs his signature without bonus. This difference is not that big then. You no longer need a shielder and you can use Furina without restriction. His personal damage will not be as high but the team damage will be higher because you can use stuff like Fischl, Kazuha, Furina and now you can just tank attacks that would normally interrupt you.
That is true. Some characters are just too good with their signatures. Neuvillette is one of such character. using zhongli with petra works great with neuvillette. I Use Furina,Neuvillete,Jean and zhongli. will get c1 soon. @@AzureDrag0n1
I needed this. I just started playing 6 months ago and after pulling for Kazuha next month, I had planned on saving for Navia constellations (she's one of my top 3 along with Noelle and Barbara); as many as I can possibly get (or at least c2). With rumours of Nilou rerunning around the same time, I was a bit torn on whether I should pull for Nilou or not (especially considering I just got Nahida). As much as I want to be greedy and grab every possible constellation for Navia that I can this year, I probably should put more priority on getting a couple other characters.
If I can bring some help being a Zhongli main and following your topic of "what you want if you main this": Zhongli is just C2 because using Burst give you the skill shield without the hold animation, and it makes justified to actually use his burst in a rotation what is kinda what we mains want to look him do hahaha, this even support your build where you build Favonius and Crit rate, fav ER is enough to burst every rotation in almost every team as solo geo, and the energy particles from favonius are a ton more reliable than the particles your pillar can generate, so with C2 you dont waste time doing Hold E + Burst and yppou just Burst + get a shield + get particles from burst crit triggering fav + your burst deal considerable dmg because is probably gonna crit.
Np, I just find it funny 😄 I managed to get c1 Neuvi in double legendary, but since c0 is more than enough the c1 is just sitting there xd. When there is an abyss where he and Furina can't solo I'll unlock that Con
I got yae miko in 2.5 and finally saved enough to C6 her this banner. Definitely not optimal but was it worth it? Yes 🙈🙈🙈 Love your videos I’m a new subscriber
If you play Co-Op it is nice to have Zhongli at C2 for being able to Shield Everyone. And for myself I like his C2 to get a shield without putting down the Pillar. For Wriothesley I would say his C1 is better than his Weapon as the Fontaine Craftable Catalyst is really good on him. For Baizhu I would even suggest C2. Having him off field, i.e. Attacking with Wriothesley or any other active character, triggers Baizhu's C2 and it will summon a smaller Variant of his E, which heals the active Character and also applies Dendro to the Enemy. For Shenhe: Isn't her C2 also viable in boosting other Cryo Character?
for neuvilette i think it's important to mention that if you have the BP weapon (sacrifical jade) on r5 the damage increase he gets from his signature weapon is only around 7% if i remember right.. So at that point his C1 would def have more value
Problem with sac jade is it only lasts for 10 secs, so he's required to be swappy. It becomes pretty useless when I'm on coop too, that's why I'll just get the weapon instead of maxing my refines. 🥲
@@hafizhperdana well, it’s alot cheaper still. It’s around 10 bucks per month to a total of 50 in the span of 5months. That’s way more affordable than trying to get a 5* weapon in a time span of 20 days
9:36 C2 Klee is 23% Def shred on enemies hit by her mines (great for her own damage as well as supporting the rest of the team (ex. Xiangling or Furina) and even letting her be a good, albeit not the most practical, full support for an Atk scaler with TTDS+Pyro Resonance if you want). I think C2 is better than weapon because R5 Widsith is great on her; IIRC only the Fontaine crit catalysts are better (if played with Furina). That said, I do prefer Kagura over Widsith because I don't like the 33% chance of getting the EM buff. Energy refund is A4 (2 energy for the team every time her charged attack crits) and C6 (3 energy for the team every 3 seconds during her burst).
I have not been tempted by a five-star C1 as much as Neuvillette's. Like, Nahida's C1 lowers the thresholds needed for those base-kit buffs, but Neuvillette's frees up team compositions even further, and on top of that is the interruption resistance, which is great for an Overworlder like me who's still farming his and others' Friendship. So cracked, to the degree that I look at it with slight scorn in the way I'm sure Wriothesley mains glare at his C1.
My characters already have optimized investments like you mentioned in 0:59. I have c2 furina and c1R1 neuvi and I can pretty much clear everything the game throws my way even with c0 nahida
I KNOW! I’m kind of hoping it’s true bc I want to pull on the weapon banners for both! But at the same time it’s kind of insane that Neuvillette would have a rerun already when so many other characters haven’t yet! But then maybe I shouldn’t be surprised since Hoyo has favorites and Albedo hasn’t been back in forever 💀
@@MugWitch It's less insane when you think of the future characters; if Arlecchino and Clorinde come after them it drains peoples resources and forces them to spend. Plus we'd be due for a Furina rerun directly after. If you want people to open their wallets, dropping a Neuv/Kazuha -> Arle/X -> Furina/X -> Clorinde/X is a peak way to do it. And then we're on the eve of Natlan, which means oh no! Time to top up!
@@Evolutez you’re not wrong but it’s still insane to me bc I missed Yelan/Lyney last year and came back during Neuvillette’s run and now Neuvillette would rerun before them or even any of the others I missed. It’s definitely the way to get everyone to open their wallets but damn 💀
Imo c1-c4 Zhongli is really worth it imo. C2 especially if you're using as a shielder with a lot of ER. I've found it very useful inside and outside of the abyss.
Btw Neuvillette C3 is much stronger than his C2. C2 is 10~18% increase in damage (The increase varies with how much CR and CD you have) while his C3 is always a ~21% increases in damage. Also depending on your team composition his C1 can have 0 value. Its main purpose is to free him from his Zhongli dependency.
You received a new subscriber! I like your dedication of analysing every characters / constellations / weapons, I'm personally now farming for Furina and I'll go with her, probably also I'll take Yelan when she gets a rerun and afterwards I'll try farming some constellations for other characters
Agreed. Character-specific upgrades have a lot of downsides since constellations are irreversible and weapons are usually kit dependent. Pick supportive weapons/constellations as they are much more valuable!!
As a C2R1 Yoimiya haver, I can say that the Pyro dmg bonus boost is pretty good imo. Ive heard people going for C6 Yoimiya but honestly one shouldn't go beyond her C3
I would argue Eula C1 is higher value for Han her weapon since it’s physical claymore so not many can use it properly, Shenhe and Xianyun are honestly C2 it’s optional but makes the biggest difference similarly Nilou weapon is great for HP but her C2 is better for later if you’re interested on her rerun, Koko is my favorite hydro and I agree she’s easily C1 girl unless you wanted to C6 R1 her.
Awesome vid! ✨After getting a copy of Kazuha, this solidifies my plan to get my Neuvi's weapon and Wrio's C1 first, then dump everything to C6 my Zhongli. 😌
this is actual very useful and informative. thanks. although i did not know c2 kazuha is good. i have him at c1 and its fun. a consideration really if his rerun is close.
Maybe Lyney c1 for the extra frontload? He already deletes everything tho (what 99/267 does to an mf) On the other hand, my Ganyu does NOT need vertical investment lol. I have a billion 5* bows and standard likes throwing amos at me instead of lps and Dehyas
I agree with most of the takes here, aside from Ayaka's C2, Wanderer's weapon choice. Ayaka's C2 actually opens up some interesting reverse melt comps that are actually quite fun and powerful to use since the smaller ones also provide Cryo application. In the video, Jello has stated that Cash Overflow (Wriothesley's weapon) is mostly better, but based on my personal experience, you normally wouldn't want the fluctuating HP mechanic (Furina or other fast healers) on Wanderer as it can be better utilized elsewhere. You really want a shielder for Wanderer as he can be knocked off the air quite easily. He is fine in his normal hypercarry team (Bennett, Faruzan (c6 + ToM preferably), and Shielder(preferably C6 Thoma)), as he is ranged; he has little to no problem playing the circle impact provided by Bennett. His own signature weapon, Tulaytullah's Remembrance, makes his rotation from N2 -> Charged to just spamming normal attacks, which where he shines in. Pair that with Desert Pavilion artifact set, he gets a free 20% attack speed increase(after the initial charged attack to proc the artifact bonus).
He is fantastic in c6 Noelle, Albedo, Gorou, Furina teams. Due to the buffing power of Furina and Gorou your c2 burst will actually do some worthwhile damage. The team might not have the fastest clear times but it is very very easy to clear an Abyss in one try. It is most noticeable in AoE situations. I would not pull for his c2 at all but if you have it then it is worth using. The last video I uploaded was using the team in fact.
For me, the most transformative thing is having the units at all 😅The only constellations I ever went for was Yelan C2 to make her supposedly "on-par" with Xingqiu, but honestly I regret that and in hindsight tbh it seemed like misguided advice, and kinda wish I went for a Hu Tao or Shenhe instead.
Just too mention something crazy about Zhongli, he has one of the few constellations that just breaks the game, (HEALING !!) (SHIELD EVERY ONLINE PLAYER ON YOUR TEAM INCLUDING HEALING C6) (BIGGER AREA FOR ULT ) ( A SECOND ELEMENTAL SKILL) Is there anything this guy cant do ??? only character i went full out on and i felt like a god playing with other people online, he is THE online support character . But yeah best to just keep him at C0, just wanted to talk about this big boy and how crazy he is.
This is such a great video! This is a great focus on who people might main. I’m not somebody who will really plan ahead well, but it helps to know all these things as I invest anyways!
I returned to Genshin during Furinas banner and just based on a gut feeling, without even having done the story, went for c6. Definitely worth imo. No need for a healer, no need to ever swap to the healing stance. If i had to play the game with just one character instead of four, she would by leagues and bounds be my number one pick.
I regretted pulling for c2 Ayato for 160 wishes as a welkin player. He's my first 5 star and I'm so hyped that time to get him so I cant rid of using my c0 Diluc on abyss as soon as possible. Now I had 170 fates, 0 pity -- I'm planning to pull for neuvi then if I won his 50/50 and get him early, I'll try to pull for Kazuha. Then if I also won Kazuha and get him on early pity, Ill go for Furina. I had 5-streaks of winning a 50/50 and praying that I win them all. Mercy on me gacha godsss!
I want to say that for Cyno, R5 of the Ballad of the Fjords is only a smidgen behind his signature in quickbloom, while his C2 gives him 50% damage bonus which is pretty massive, so I wouldn't really consider it for any BP andies out there. However, I know that extremely dedicated Cyno simps tend to prefer to play him in aggravate because that focuses more on his personal damage, at which point his signature is more noticeably ahead of other options, and of course dedicated f2p or welkin-only hoarders don't have access to BP weapons. All of that said, I personally believe that the weapon wins out over constellations in nearly every single circumstance where you want to lightly vertically invest in a character out of affection, because the signature weapon comes with the two massive benefits of 1) being removable if you ever want to do a c0r0 clear with your fave to prove a point to the haters and 2) drip! Constellations (usually) aren't visible, but weapons are! Lastly, just a note from a Mandarin speaker, I highly recommend stylising Xiao's name as "shao" like they do in the EN dub, rather than "jao". It's easier to say and much more comfortable to listen to!
Cyno quickbloom allows his personal damage to shine and his hyperblooms. I have his C2 and since I now pair him with Furina I've decided to switch him over to an EM goblet which is great when you have his BiS. I don't recall what weapon you're talking about I don't think that it can be a smidge behind when Cyno's BiS provides so much crit and benefits his quickbloom playstyle.
@@Radi340 it's the new battle pass spear and at r5 it gives 27% crit rate and 240 EM. the sheer amount of EM makes it close to staff of scarlet sands when Cyno's doing a lot of transformative damage, though obviously it doesn't overtake the sheer amount of crit and attack that staff gives. the gap does widen with C2 and Furina since as you said that combo lets him run EM goblet, and Furina's hydro is relatively slow as well.
@@god9303 also I don't know if what I said is necessarily still true post-Furina since she's such an insane support for him, his performance has always been better in quickbloom (and its how I prefer to play him) but I remember closer to his debut I did see several camps preferring to run their heavily invested Cynos in aggravate 🤔 so I could be wrong and speaking on outdated presumptions anyway
I would put Zhongli in C2, since it a) gives him a coop shield, which if you play with people who die easily is probably the best way to protect the team, and b) let's him use his burst without having to spend field time to also cast his shield.
I got C1 Raiden from zero pity in a 10-pull near midnight on my birthday back in January. I got her the day her banner dropped but decided to do one more multi to basically end the birthday festivities a week later. Imagine my surprise when I skipped and saw Raiden's splash art. The funny thing was that I llistened to her happy birthday lines before that, so I guess she just wanted to give me one more gift. I want cons(and/or 5* weapons) for all the archons eventually so I'm pretty happy with that. My little sister is still upset any time I bring up my good gacha luck though.
For Yae Miko I would say c2 is the best. I used her since she was released, pulled for her on three banners and now I have her at c6r1. From my experience while Kagura gives her some additional damage and better consistency, it doesen't make THAT much difference in comparison to the Widsith to overshadow her c2. Mostly because she really enjoys any of 3 buffs Widsith can provide, so it is less of a casino for her. As for her c2, it's just fantastic. It gives her a significant boost in damage, but even more importantly, it fixes her range problems. After this con I pretty much never had problems with enemies running out of range. Also she enjoys either Nahida or Chevreuse on her team a lot, but I'd still say it's c2 tier for her.
I gotta say cyno’s weapon was probably the best decision i made as a f2p, amazing stat stick and i never realized how easily i could build him because of it
I got Cyno’s weapon instead of Haran for my Ayato in the last banner, wondering if that means I should pull for Cyno now too since I quite like him x-x
@@GohHuiTing if you like him then go ahead, hes super fun!! im a pretty loyal cyno main but i do have to give some of his flaws, like how his burst is so long and you need a good amount of ER. You can play him f2p on an aggravate team or a quickbloom team with barbara as the boom proc. Rn i run him with nahida, fischl and barbara but im saving for baizhu and furina
Hi! I been loving your guides had have been watching them since I got back into the game around Navia's banner. Have you done something in this video similar to the BP weapons or comparing them? Regardless thank you for constantly pumping out these guides, Neuvillette and his C1 will come home
c1 nahida is a good QoL, since she automatically gets 1 stack of pyro/hydro buff from it, even if you don't have a pyro/hydro unit in your team. But since her optimal constellation is c2, it really is a moot argument.
Yae is definitely c2 or weapon. Her weapon increases her skill damage by ~20% c1 is difficult to gauge, I like to say ~10% damage (Aggravate team with Fischl as battery, bursting every rotation, saving ~20% ER -> crit/Atk/EM rolls) c2 is ~25% skill damage over c1 or using the ~10% damage from c1 it's 37.5% skill damage over c0 (18.75% per constellation). On top of that there's the huge range increase. Barring c6 her c2 is basically her best constellation.
"Her(yae) c2 is a nice damage increase" I'd argue the main selling point of her c2 is the range increase. Everytime i go on my friend's account i'm baffled at how small her range is at c0. With c2 her totems can target basically anywhere in the spiral abyss boundaries the range increase you get from it is insanely comfy.
Great video! I've always struggled with weapons in general and have avoided the weapons banner because of the general feedback that it's a ripoff. Now that I know how some of them have real value, I'll give it a go. Thanks!
Genshin impact plan 😅 Saving for C6 Tsaritsa While also pulling other fatuis on the way Honkai star rail plan 🤔 I'm kinda planning to get E2S1 acheron if she do well without silver wolf
I have been playing for a couple of months now and while I like new character I actually started to think about constellations (as I have no way to play all characters anyway). So good timing and in my case I will probably go for weapon or cons for Neuvillette.
1. Xianyun should be with Yelan, her c2 is amazing.
2. One thing I kind of danced around but didn't get to say is: the nice thing about vertically investing is it lightens the load your artifacts have to do for you. which is nice to have less stress when farming to still dumpster the abyss.
true. i did experience with my raiden c2. although i have good artifacts on her like 67/157 CR and 250 ER without engulfing and with c6 chev overload she does above 400k damage in her ult. which i never achieved in 1 year of playing this game
I was about to comment that.. Xianyun c2 gives so much damage boost.. so you want to get that if you want to max her..
Its sad that i couldn't even get C1 for Xianyun but I got her weapon at least and she buffs a lot
No. 2 is what I have been doing since the very beginning
*Baizhu* should also be on c2, as it consolidates his off-field support role for hyper-carries with long on-field time (he can _only_ support on-field Cyno _properly_ with it, for example).
We Alhaitham mains know his best constellation is Nahida C2
Furina c1 has bigger damage increase per primogem.
Still, getting nahida’s c2 is equivalent in damage to getting alhaitham to c2r1
@@polychromaahuh furina c1 increase the primogem damage???
@@polychromaa idk about that, nahida c2 is broken, def shred gives u a bit more dmg then furina c1 and then you have 20% increase for hyperbloom dmg, what are like third of the team dmg and are not effected by furina c1. I'd argue they are at least the same in primogem spend(that's nahida c2 around double furina c1).
Furina c1 is just cheaper upgrade.
@@user-eo4it2rn1f a 5 star can easily cost 160 pulls. Nahida from c0 to c2 can easily cost 320 if you get unlucky. Furina c0 to c1 only costs 160, which is half as much. C1 Furina is more damage per primogem investment, cheaper, and arguably more versatile
@@ferend4038 using furina instead of the other 2 xingqius potentially allows for less hyperblooms and more quicken uptime. Talent damage and quicken damage is already a bigger percentage of the teams damage than before furina. Additionally, c1 furina nullifies kuki’s lackluster fanfare stacking. Not only is furina’s c1 cheaper, it is also more cost efficient
For anyone who have Neuvillette, i will highly recommend you to pull for his c1 first then his sig because not only will you get 100% resistance to interruption but you can also run him double hydro with furina without losing his 3rd draconic stack
thank you! I came here to see which one is better because i don't have Kazuha so i will pull for him and i was debating if i should get Neuv C1 or his Weapon.
I get your point, but he does so much dmg by himself, especially with his weapon, that having a shielder or Dehya on his team/dead slot for just interrupt res is not even a problem lol 😭Also his weapon is pretty transferable, so I like that a lot (slaying with my Klee on Furina teams with it ngl ngl)
@@Szczurzyslawa his signature is not guaranteed unless you have so much wishes saved, then yes you can go for it. But this is only my preference cuz I've been using him since 4.1, I'll recommend his c1 over his signature because then you won't have to use a shielder everytime using him and you can use two hydro characters which also gives hydro resonance
@@lighty2884 Yeah as I said I totally get you! I was lucky to win his weapon on the homa banner so there was no losing there, hence, I decided to pull and have no regrets hah. I have really bad artifact luck so having such a huge crit stat stick is great for me specifically
thank you for this!! i already have c1 kazuha and i really really want neuvi so i've been wondering as well, hope i win his 50/50 🥹 if i have extra wishes and the weapon banner is decent i might go for his sig but also..... i want to save for furina cons too hahaha
c1 wrio makes him just a better character and gives him like 30% dmg increase its def the better option
His wep isn't even that much better than other 5* weapons
Lyney main here, C2R2, giving his take. His C1 definitely makes the rotations feel snappier and shorter for max stacks. It also gives himself his own personal healing capabilities outside of utilizing his burst for an extra stack, which is sooo comfy.
It’s hard to say which to commit to though, cause his weapon is also so good for him. I think C1 for more comfort, and weapon for damage.
I personally got the weapon first, and then invested in cons. I think vertical investment should be:
1st- either c1 or First Great Magic
2nd- the one you didn’t get prior
3rd- C2, I felt a BIG boost from this, very nice.
Past C2, I guess you’re truly a certified Lyney main, props you’re committed to the Top Hat Sleeper Agent.
R2-
That hurts to read
@@bonyeni yeah was hoping for an Aqua for Childe, but lost that one to another Lyney weapon. I figured I’d just double down.
Xianyun roll priorities are C2 (basically doubles her buff) > Weapon (team dmg buff and energy for XY) > C1 (comfort). She should be in the same tier as Yelan on your list.
you're right pinned
Only reason I went for her weapon over cons was cuz I didn’t have any good f2p weapons for her and I wanted the comfort of ER and healing over dmg. But will definitely get her c2 on her rerun!
THIS IS SUCH SCARY TIMING! I was just thinking about how to plan for possible constellations for the future! Can't wait to watch!
My daughter has and loves Furina, Navia, and Diluc, among others. She shares Navia's weapon with Diluc and sees a significant difference with that versus his 4* claymore.
As someone who mains Diluc and really wanted to get Navia too (but I lost the 5050 unfortunately) she has great taste! I too looked longingly at Verdict, but I was just simply too poor. She's so lucky to have all three *and* Furina!
I only need one constellation, and it's Dehya's C1.
I only need one weapon, and it's Dehya's weapon.
It is a cowardly destiny that refuses me both of these things, but I will not give up.
Did you get the weapon?
C2 Kazuha is peak convenience for building your other characters. For Aggravate and VVape you just don’t have to stress about getting enough EM substats anymore.
As a c2 Nahida haver and c1 Furina haver. Yes the power and flexibility they provide really trivializes the abyss. I love that they bring so many characters’ c0 performance up to being strong. I prefer that over hyperinvesting into onfield DPSs. But for those who like to main a specific character, this way of ranking is quite helpful. Great video idea and I agree with most of your takes. Again I value flexibility so I would put some of the more universal signatures higher but for what the list is trying to do I think you nailed it
I got Baizhu C1 on accident and it's pretty damn good. It lowers the ER requirements so much that mine just wears Dragonslayers and I always have his burst on cooldown. Can't imagine him without it.
I only have Baizhu at C0 but at like level 9 friendship bc of how often I use him. His ER requirements can be rough to get his shield back up. C1 is definitely something I’m considering next time he reruns!
I feel like sacrificial is easily equivalent to that. I have sac instructor baizhu and I could easily ramp up my burst with full hp% and still heal quite big. So c1 is kind of redundant. Maybe cuz I have good ER substat but that's my take.
Asher?
@@jazzywuzzydoubunhgu2944 For sure, it's something to get if you love him of course. I just use mine with Beidou all the time and I like snapshotting her burst.
Raiden signature weapon is very great, not only in Bennettless teams, 85% of ER makes her teams and herself work so smooth in case of pressing bursts by cooldown. I actually feel like for now if you want to use her as carry or even in rational you should have her on C2R1, it’s really enjoyable.
it's true i forgot to talk about what a great QOL upgrade it is
Before I got my C1R1 Neuv my account was in rough shape, I was having tons of trouble clearing domains and bosses solo, the abyss was a joke, my main DPS was Tighnari and I had terrible artifacts for him because they were so annoying to farm. Neuvillette just shot my account up so much it's unbelievable, the game can still be challenging at times but I no longer fear any monster or boss.
Ever since I’d gotten two raidens in two consecutive single pulls, I’ve been pulling for C2 archons and literally reduces artifacts-farming by TONS !
since youre almost done with making guides on everyone in the game, its nice to see you make new types of content for the playerbase. keep up the good work and i hope you get mona soon
Wanderer definitely does not prefer Wriothesley's weapon, it's an option when you run Furina teams but Wanderer Furina teams are extremely clunky to play. Both Faruzan and arguably Zhongli are required on his team. Cashflow is just objectively worse in this team unless you get hit on purpose.
The weapon banner isn't looking really good tho 🥲
I'm not gonna lie, I'd argue c1 or c2 or weapon for Nilou.
c1 makes here on-field actually viable due to the longer duration. There's also her ring lasting long, causing more blooms for the team.
c2 has the same increase to her bloom teams as c2 nahida, which is honestly insane
Then again, I'm speaking as a nilou main without key and a vape build too.
Edit: apologies about c1 nilou, it only increases damage for on-field stance, not duration, but the ring still lasts longer.
nah, i happed to draw the key by dumb luck (I didn't know what i was doing when i drew on that banner), and i've played nilou with and without it. the buff to nilou is insane with the key. i mean night and day difference.
@@arizona_anime_fan How about the 4-star AoT sword? It's the only HP% sword. I felt that she's packing a lot more punch after I pulled that sword.
@@xdragon2kKey gives a lot more HP, and the EM transfer from Key's passive is also insane for the one triggering bloom
@@xdragon2k jamie had video on that topic. The conclusion was that this sword is still more close to literally any other em sword then to her sig. Her signature is actually crazy and you can even argue versatile(it can be used by furina/kukie/kirara etc)
Key still better because of the amount of stats and also without key you can't max your buff. For C2 nahida vs nilou i agree its almost the same with C2 nahida gives you more satisfying big damage and C2 nilou is more comfortable to play
Edit : C1 nahida for nilou is also good because you get trigger interval reduction which usually you can't get
Solid video. Sadly im a "drip over functionality" kinda guy, so its always gotta be weapon over cons for me 😂😂😂
Same, I can’t slay enemies but at least I can still slay in other ways
@@FroggycolouringIn what way exactly? Show the fact that u are a gacha addict way? Nothing but a junkie aren't u?
Same bro. I usually pull on the weapon banner and if I get the weapon I go for the character. It feels wrong to not use them with their weapons.
This thumbnail is actually insane tho, really eye-catching also for the good use of color
Everyone says "don't do it, you'll regret it" but some people just don't understand. I always go for C2 R5 on 5*s and C6 for 4*s. I also level up to 8 everyone's Normal Attacks. I get worried they won't be able to defend themselves. 😅
Ah, so you found the excessively vocal “characters over constellations” group 😂
I ignore them because I play off-meta team comps with bad artifacts that need carrying by 5* weapons or overpowered supports.
I also level normal attacks because it helps out in domains and Abyss runs when you know you don’t need the whole elemental burst rotation to end the encounter.
so u max out there weapons even if their cons are better?
To clarify for Wanderer, his optimal rotation actually changes drastically based on his weapon/cons/artifacts. For highest value, Wriothesley or Neuv’s weapon and using CA spam will get you the most bang for your primos. Go Furina, slap Marechausse on him. You could also go for C1 or C2. But they’re less of a bump.
At C6 though his signature is better and NA spam is better. Echoes of an Offering also becomes his BiS set. So if you got Wes or Neuv’s weapon for him they just go down the drain.
For Nahida, her weapon is actually just straight up worse in pure aggravate teams than R5 Wandering Evenstar. So gotta keep that in mind. Her C1 is actually really good for the extended burst duration in pure aggravate if you play those teams.
Baizhu’s C2 increases his damage by a crazy amount. It’s like 30-40%. So it’s worth considering if you’re using him.
Sounds like going for Neuvillette's R1 would be a decent double-duty, to just swap it out to Wanderer when the mood strikes.
10:17 According to leaks, Chiori's signature is exactly that weapon.
For Klee, I'd say C2 is better, because it gives her the rare def debuff.
For Yae, C2. It boosts the damage her E and that range boost. Meanwhile, Widsith exists, and we have Troupe and Furina, both of whom provide a lot of DMG, lowering the value of the DMG the weapon provides, while in aggravate teams, there's often Nahida, who buffs EM, which gets turned into DMG...
For Navia, I believe her cons are the way to go, especially if you are a BP payer. But the weapon has so much drip ;)
thank you thank you THANK YOU! i've had all my fave characters for a while now so i've been wondering what to pull, this video is a lifesaver and definitely made me reconsider what i want to invest in
For Neuvillette, if you spend money on the game, I would get C1 over weapon. R1 Sac Jade is only 10% behind his sig, and R5 is within 1% in furina teams. Its cheaper to buy 5 battle passes than to get guarantee his sig, even if funding it exclusivly through welkins over 10 months. Sac Jade also comes with all the other benefits of the paid battle pass.
Naah bro. I have c0 neuvillette with his signature. Signature weapon is a significant upgrade to him. Check it once again . There is a huge difference in the dmg.
C6R5 nuev user(yes i whale, dont shit on me),the sig is just too good compared to any other weapons out there,like it reduced ur overall energy cost and u can run a hp circlet(if needed)
@@DailyCatalyst101 I think you have to compare it to a good 4 star weapon + his c1 bonus vs his signature without bonus. This difference is not that big then. You no longer need a shielder and you can use Furina without restriction. His personal damage will not be as high but the team damage will be higher because you can use stuff like Fischl, Kazuha, Furina and now you can just tank attacks that would normally interrupt you.
That is true. Some characters are just too good with their signatures. Neuvillette is one of such character. using zhongli with petra works great with neuvillette. I Use Furina,Neuvillete,Jean and zhongli. will get c1 soon.
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@@AzureDrag0n1 ya about that with c1 he gets 1 stack instantly from his passive and also he can deal over 18k/hit if build right all alone
Great guide. Xianyun C2 is the one to go for tho. Buffs her so much and she glows!
Definitely will get C1 Wriothesly. I enjoyed playing him the most.
I needed this. I just started playing 6 months ago and after pulling for Kazuha next month, I had planned on saving for Navia constellations (she's one of my top 3 along with Noelle and Barbara); as many as I can possibly get (or at least c2). With rumours of Nilou rerunning around the same time, I was a bit torn on whether I should pull for Nilou or not (especially considering I just got Nahida). As much as I want to be greedy and grab every possible constellation for Navia that I can this year, I probably should put more priority on getting a couple other characters.
I definitely wanna get c2 raiden at some point. I've maining her for 2 years now. after getting furina, childe and alhaitham that's my next priority
I have c3 raiden and everything became too easy for me. I think c2 is amazing enough.
It’s pretty great, I sometimes find myself avoiding using her in the abyss because I smash everything too quickly now. Best of luck in your pulls
If I can bring some help being a Zhongli main and following your topic of "what you want if you main this":
Zhongli is just C2 because using Burst give you the skill shield without the hold animation, and it makes justified to actually use his burst in a rotation what is kinda what we mains want to look him do hahaha, this even support your build where you build Favonius and Crit rate, fav ER is enough to burst every rotation in almost every team as solo geo, and the energy particles from favonius are a ton more reliable than the particles your pillar can generate, so with C2 you dont waste time doing Hold E + Burst and yppou just Burst + get a shield + get particles from burst crit triggering fav + your burst deal considerable dmg because is probably gonna crit.
I like that, burst casting shield is a good justification to use his burst
You just need c2 r1 Furina... JUST THAT
Such a whale thing to say xd
Not r1
But regardless Remember I don’t have any cons for power haha
Np, I just find it funny 😄
I managed to get c1 Neuvi in double legendary, but since c0 is more than enough the c1 is just sitting there xd. When there is an abyss where he and Furina can't solo I'll unlock that Con
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:20 Disclaimers
02:05 Yoimiya
02:28 Furina
02:51 Note
04:03 Nahida
04:30 Neuvillette
05:11 Yelan
05:33 Eula
05:55 Xiao
06:50 Nilou
07:00 Raiden Shogun
07:40 Ayaka
07:55 Zhongli
08:28 Kazuha
08:52 Hu Tao
09:11 No standard banner
09:22 Venti
09:31 Klee
10:11 Albedo
10:40 Ganyu
11:15 Itto
11:27 Shenhe
11:50 Yae Miko
12:07 Ayato
12:35 Cyno
12:47 Wanderer
13:12 Wriothesley
13:27 Alhaitham
13:52 Xianyun
14:09 Baizhu
14:53 Childe
15:15 Kokomi
16:05 Navia
16:41 Lyney
17:14 Final Thoughts
🙏 thank you
based adding to description thank you
As a Baizhu C2 haver, I recommend for Cyno teams, you can have dendro applied for longer and won't need to leave his burst before the end.
I got yae miko in 2.5 and finally saved enough to C6 her this banner. Definitely not optimal but was it worth it? Yes 🙈🙈🙈
Love your videos I’m a new subscriber
If you play Co-Op it is nice to have Zhongli at C2 for being able to Shield Everyone. And for myself I like his C2 to get a shield without putting down the Pillar.
For Wriothesley I would say his C1 is better than his Weapon as the Fontaine Craftable Catalyst is really good on him.
For Baizhu I would even suggest C2. Having him off field, i.e. Attacking with Wriothesley or any other active character, triggers Baizhu's C2 and it will summon a smaller Variant of his E, which heals the active Character and also applies Dendro to the Enemy.
For Shenhe: Isn't her C2 also viable in boosting other Cryo Character?
A big thanks for your clear explanation! thank you for sharing your experience and your kindness 😊
for neuvilette i think it's important to mention that if you have the BP weapon (sacrifical jade) on r5 the damage increase he gets from his signature weapon is only around 7% if i remember right.. So at that point his C1 would def have more value
Problem with sac jade is it only lasts for 10 secs, so he's required to be swappy. It becomes pretty useless when I'm on coop too, that's why I'll just get the weapon instead of maxing my refines. 🥲
But, who would prefer buy BP 5 times just to get that weapon with full refinement? I think people will buy genesis crystals instead if they had money
@@hafizhperdana well, it’s alot cheaper still. It’s around 10 bucks per month to a total of 50 in the span of 5months. That’s way more affordable than trying to get a 5* weapon in a time span of 20 days
It's likely chiori's weapon will work well with albedo but we wont know till we see it.
Well, you can see it if you look for it. Like her kit, it isn't hard to find. Of course, she and her weapon are still in beta, so subject to change.
Me reading just the title and skipping to end:
"Does this guy really recommend getting ZL spear to transform my account?"
9:36 C2 Klee is 23% Def shred on enemies hit by her mines (great for her own damage as well as supporting the rest of the team (ex. Xiangling or Furina) and even letting her be a good, albeit not the most practical, full support for an Atk scaler with TTDS+Pyro Resonance if you want).
I think C2 is better than weapon because R5 Widsith is great on her; IIRC only the Fontaine crit catalysts are better (if played with Furina). That said, I do prefer Kagura over Widsith because I don't like the 33% chance of getting the EM buff.
Energy refund is A4 (2 energy for the team every time her charged attack crits) and C6 (3 energy for the team every 3 seconds during her burst).
I have not been tempted by a five-star C1 as much as Neuvillette's. Like, Nahida's C1 lowers the thresholds needed for those base-kit buffs, but Neuvillette's frees up team compositions even further, and on top of that is the interruption resistance, which is great for an Overworlder like me who's still farming his and others' Friendship. So cracked, to the degree that I look at it with slight scorn in the way I'm sure Wriothesley mains glare at his C1.
My characters already have optimized investments like you mentioned in 0:59. I have c2 furina and c1R1 neuvi and I can pretty much clear everything the game throws my way even with c0 nahida
Mmmm I've heard Kazuha/Neuvillete will be the back half of 4.5 which sounds STACKED.
I KNOW! I’m kind of hoping it’s true bc I want to pull on the weapon banners for both! But at the same time it’s kind of insane that Neuvillette would have a rerun already when so many other characters haven’t yet! But then maybe I shouldn’t be surprised since Hoyo has favorites and Albedo hasn’t been back in forever 💀
@@MugWitch It's less insane when you think of the future characters; if Arlecchino and Clorinde come after them it drains peoples resources and forces them to spend. Plus we'd be due for a Furina rerun directly after.
If you want people to open their wallets, dropping a Neuv/Kazuha -> Arle/X -> Furina/X -> Clorinde/X is a peak way to do it.
And then we're on the eve of Natlan, which means oh no! Time to top up!
@@Evolutez you’re not wrong but it’s still insane to me bc I missed Yelan/Lyney last year and came back during Neuvillette’s run and now Neuvillette would rerun before them or even any of the others I missed. It’s definitely the way to get everyone to open their wallets but damn 💀
And the leaked 4 stars are heizou, layla, and kaveh. Definitely pouring all my primos in those banners.
Imo c1-c4 Zhongli is really worth it imo. C2 especially if you're using as a shielder with a lot of ER. I've found it very useful inside and outside of the abyss.
Btw Neuvillette C3 is much stronger than his C2.
C2 is 10~18% increase in damage (The increase varies with how much CR and CD you have) while his C3 is always a ~21% increases in damage.
Also depending on your team composition his C1 can have 0 value. Its main purpose is to free him from his Zhongli dependency.
You received a new subscriber! I like your dedication of analysing every characters / constellations / weapons, I'm personally now farming for Furina and I'll go with her, probably also I'll take Yelan when she gets a rerun and afterwards I'll try farming some constellations for other characters
Agreed. Character-specific upgrades have a lot of downsides since constellations are irreversible and weapons are usually kit dependent. Pick supportive weapons/constellations as they are much more valuable!!
Great video! Liked the pacing and prefacing with how to get the most power at the start. Keep up the great content.
Also, loved how every 3rd or 4th character is "you really want to go for Furina/Nahida C2"
As a C2R1 Yoimiya haver, I can say that the Pyro dmg bonus boost is pretty good imo. Ive heard people going for C6 Yoimiya but honestly one shouldn't go beyond her C3
Very informative thank you!
Only C6 that is probably most useful is Shenhe C6 because it unlocks Cryo Archon Zhongli.
10:27 Albedo C2 with either( Chiori's weapon or Cinnabar or Festering Desire )
I would argue Eula C1 is higher value for Han her weapon since it’s physical claymore so not many can use it properly, Shenhe and Xianyun are honestly C2 it’s optional but makes the biggest difference similarly Nilou weapon is great for HP but her C2 is better for later if you’re interested on her rerun, Koko is my favorite hydro and I agree she’s easily C1 girl unless you wanted to C6 R1 her.
Awesome vid! ✨After getting a copy of Kazuha, this solidifies my plan to get my Neuvi's weapon and Wrio's C1 first, then dump everything to C6 my Zhongli. 😌
this is actual very useful and informative. thanks.
although i did not know c2 kazuha is good. i have him at c1 and its fun. a consideration really if his rerun is close.
Maybe Lyney c1 for the extra frontload? He already deletes everything tho (what 99/267 does to an mf)
On the other hand, my Ganyu does NOT need vertical investment lol. I have a billion 5* bows and standard likes throwing amos at me instead of lps and Dehyas
Furina C1 is Crazy. 150 fanfare points right after bursting is no joke like 30% dmg bonus.
I agree with most of the takes here, aside from Ayaka's C2, Wanderer's weapon choice.
Ayaka's C2 actually opens up some interesting reverse melt comps that are actually quite fun and powerful to use since the smaller ones also provide Cryo application.
In the video, Jello has stated that Cash Overflow (Wriothesley's weapon) is mostly better, but based on my personal experience, you normally wouldn't want the fluctuating HP mechanic (Furina or other fast healers) on Wanderer as it can be better utilized elsewhere. You really want a shielder for Wanderer as he can be knocked off the air quite easily. He is fine in his normal hypercarry team (Bennett, Faruzan (c6 + ToM preferably), and Shielder(preferably C6 Thoma)), as he is ranged; he has little to no problem playing the circle impact provided by Bennett.
His own signature weapon, Tulaytullah's Remembrance, makes his rotation from N2 -> Charged to just spamming normal attacks, which where he shines in. Pair that with Desert Pavilion artifact set, he gets a free 20% attack speed increase(after the initial charged attack to proc the artifact bonus).
Albedo C2 used to be desirable.
-me, having a c2 Albedo with spindle but haven't used him in like 2 years.
He is fantastic in c6 Noelle, Albedo, Gorou, Furina teams. Due to the buffing power of Furina and Gorou your c2 burst will actually do some worthwhile damage. The team might not have the fastest clear times but it is very very easy to clear an Abyss in one try. It is most noticeable in AoE situations.
I would not pull for his c2 at all but if you have it then it is worth using. The last video I uploaded was using the team in fact.
I highly recommend crushing with your favourite characters
*cries in amber main*
For me, the most transformative thing is having the units at all 😅The only constellations I ever went for was Yelan C2 to make her supposedly "on-par" with Xingqiu, but honestly I regret that and in hindsight tbh it seemed like misguided advice, and kinda wish I went for a Hu Tao or Shenhe instead.
Just too mention something crazy about Zhongli, he has one of the few constellations that just breaks the game, (HEALING !!) (SHIELD EVERY ONLINE PLAYER ON YOUR TEAM INCLUDING HEALING C6) (BIGGER AREA FOR ULT ) ( A SECOND ELEMENTAL SKILL)
Is there anything this guy cant do ??? only character i went full out on and i felt like a god playing with other people online, he is THE online support character .
But yeah best to just keep him at C0, just wanted to talk about this big boy and how crazy he is.
This is such a great video! This is a great focus on who people might main. I’m not somebody who will really plan ahead well, but it helps to know all these things as I invest anyways!
"for albedo... just hope and pray" why is this so real
I agree with you Mr Jello, my C2 Furina and C6 Nahida slap the fuck out of the abyss every time
I returned to Genshin during Furinas banner and just based on a gut feeling, without even having done the story, went for c6. Definitely worth imo. No need for a healer, no need to ever swap to the healing stance. If i had to play the game with just one character instead of four, she would by leagues and bounds be my number one pick.
Accidental C2R5 Navia, going for Mist's.. well.. guess time to double down and save for C6 :D
I regretted pulling for c2 Ayato for 160 wishes as a welkin player. He's my first 5 star and I'm so hyped that time to get him so I cant rid of using my c0 Diluc on abyss as soon as possible. Now I had 170 fates, 0 pity -- I'm planning to pull for neuvi then if I won his 50/50 and get him early, I'll try to pull for Kazuha. Then if I also won Kazuha and get him on early pity, Ill go for Furina. I had 5-streaks of winning a 50/50 and praying that I win them all. Mercy on me gacha godsss!
I want to say that for Cyno, R5 of the Ballad of the Fjords is only a smidgen behind his signature in quickbloom, while his C2 gives him 50% damage bonus which is pretty massive, so I wouldn't really consider it for any BP andies out there. However, I know that extremely dedicated Cyno simps tend to prefer to play him in aggravate because that focuses more on his personal damage, at which point his signature is more noticeably ahead of other options, and of course dedicated f2p or welkin-only hoarders don't have access to BP weapons. All of that said, I personally believe that the weapon wins out over constellations in nearly every single circumstance where you want to lightly vertically invest in a character out of affection, because the signature weapon comes with the two massive benefits of 1) being removable if you ever want to do a c0r0 clear with your fave to prove a point to the haters and 2) drip! Constellations (usually) aren't visible, but weapons are!
Lastly, just a note from a Mandarin speaker, I highly recommend stylising Xiao's name as "shao" like they do in the EN dub, rather than "jao". It's easier to say and much more comfortable to listen to!
arent all cyno teams focused on his personal damage?
Cyno quickbloom allows his personal damage to shine and his hyperblooms. I have his C2 and since I now pair him with Furina I've decided to switch him over to an EM goblet which is great when you have his BiS.
I don't recall what weapon you're talking about I don't think that it can be a smidge behind when Cyno's BiS provides so much crit and benefits his quickbloom playstyle.
@@god9303 I should have said talent damage!
@@Radi340 it's the new battle pass spear and at r5 it gives 27% crit rate and 240 EM. the sheer amount of EM makes it close to staff of scarlet sands when Cyno's doing a lot of transformative damage, though obviously it doesn't overtake the sheer amount of crit and attack that staff gives. the gap does widen with C2 and Furina since as you said that combo lets him run EM goblet, and Furina's hydro is relatively slow as well.
@@god9303 also I don't know if what I said is necessarily still true post-Furina since she's such an insane support for him, his performance has always been better in quickbloom (and its how I prefer to play him) but I remember closer to his debut I did see several camps preferring to run their heavily invested Cynos in aggravate 🤔 so I could be wrong and speaking on outdated presumptions anyway
I would put Zhongli in C2, since it a) gives him a coop shield, which if you play with people who die easily is probably the best way to protect the team, and b) let's him use his burst without having to spend field time to also cast his shield.
i like horizontal investment but when something is really worth it, i might consuder vertical one too, like... Neuvi's C1
I got C1 Raiden from zero pity in a 10-pull near midnight on my birthday back in January. I got her the day her banner dropped but decided to do one more multi to basically end the birthday festivities a week later.
Imagine my surprise when I skipped and saw Raiden's splash art. The funny thing was that I llistened to her happy birthday lines before that, so I guess she just wanted to give me one more gift.
I want cons(and/or 5* weapons) for all the archons eventually so I'm pretty happy with that. My little sister is still upset any time I bring up my good gacha luck though.
You ought to do the vertical investment for standard five stars now that the new banner type is coming, LOL!
I got C2 Yelan within 32 wishes on her last banner and she is incredible. even with bad artifacts she was outdoing my better characters.......... lol
For Yae Miko I would say c2 is the best. I used her since she was released, pulled for her on three banners and now I have her at c6r1. From my experience while Kagura gives her some additional damage and better consistency, it doesen't make THAT much difference in comparison to the Widsith to overshadow her c2. Mostly because she really enjoys any of 3 buffs Widsith can provide, so it is less of a casino for her. As for her c2, it's just fantastic. It gives her a significant boost in damage, but even more importantly, it fixes her range problems. After this con I pretty much never had problems with enemies running out of range. Also she enjoys either Nahida or Chevreuse on her team a lot, but I'd still say it's c2 tier for her.
Good news about Albedo regarding weapons.
Chiori's signature is actually looking pretty good for Albedo.
Thanks a lot for this video! It is suuuuper useful.😊😊😊
Yay!
I gotta say cyno’s weapon was probably the best decision i made as a f2p, amazing stat stick and i never realized how easily i could build him because of it
I got Cyno’s weapon instead of Haran for my Ayato in the last banner, wondering if that means I should pull for Cyno now too since I quite like him x-x
@@GohHuiTing if you like him then go ahead, hes super fun!! im a pretty loyal cyno main but i do have to give some of his flaws, like how his burst is so long and you need a good amount of ER. You can play him f2p on an aggravate team or a quickbloom team with barbara as the boom proc. Rn i run him with nahida, fischl and barbara but im saving for baizhu and furina
“Ayaka cons don’t really get good until c4.” - Jello Impact 2024
Hi! I been loving your guides had have been watching them since I got back into the game around Navia's banner. Have you done something in this video similar to the BP weapons or comparing them? Regardless thank you for constantly pumping out these guides, Neuvillette and his C1 will come home
This is good info here,ngl,beginners need to watch n set goal from now
C0 Furina is OP game over for any team.
Was for me
also regarding neuvillette the battle pass weapon from fontaine at r5 is almost as strong as his signature at r1 so he only really needs c1
Im saving for arlecchino and clorinde! Alre is my first priority if i have primod left then it goes to clorinde
I really needed this right now. Thank you! Perfect timing.
c1 nahida is a good QoL, since she automatically gets 1 stack of pyro/hydro buff from it, even if you don't have a pyro/hydro unit in your team.
But since her optimal constellation is c2, it really is a moot argument.
Look ma, fresh jello is video out!
I went for Neuvillette weapon and got 2 Staff of Homas which I'm not going to complain about but man I just want that weapon.
Yae is definitely c2 or weapon.
Her weapon increases her skill damage by ~20%
c1 is difficult to gauge, I like to say ~10% damage (Aggravate team with Fischl as battery, bursting every rotation, saving ~20% ER -> crit/Atk/EM rolls)
c2 is ~25% skill damage over c1 or using the ~10% damage from c1 it's 37.5% skill damage over c0 (18.75% per constellation). On top of that there's the huge range increase. Barring c6 her c2 is basically her best constellation.
"Her(yae) c2 is a nice damage increase"
I'd argue the main selling point of her c2 is the range increase. Everytime i go on my friend's account i'm baffled at how small her range is at c0. With c2 her totems can target basically anywhere in the spiral abyss boundaries the range increase you get from it is insanely comfy.
Nice Vid jello, i wanna ask, Can you make a tier list for 4 star weapons including battle pass weapons?
I can’t pull for xiao as I am saving for arlecchino.
But,I got xiao’s weapon from standard banner,have xianyun,not yet c6 Faruzan tho.
Great video! I've always struggled with weapons in general and have avoided the weapons banner because of the general feedback that it's a ripoff. Now that I know how some of them have real value, I'll give it a go. Thanks!
We will need a standard 5* update now, due to the new Chronicled Wish banner 🎉
Good Production Value!
Yoimiya - Thundering Pulse
Furina - Furina Constellations
Nahida - Nahida Constellations
Neuvillette - Nahida Constellations
Yelan - Nahida Constellations
Eula - Nahida Constellations
Xiao - Nahida Constellations
Nilou - Nahida Constellations
Raiden - Nahida Constellations
Ayaka - Nahida Constellations
Zhongli - Nahida Constellations
Kazuha - Nahida Constellations
Hutao - Nahida Constellations
Standard Banner 5-Stars - Nahida Constellations
Venti - Nahida Constellations
Klee - Nahida Constellations
Albedo - Nahida Constellations
Ganyu - Nahida Constellations
Jellos Child - Nahida Constellations
Itto - Nahida Constellations
Shenhe - Nahida Constellations
Yae Miko - Nahida Constellations
Ayato - Ayato Constellations
Cyno - Ayato Constellations
Wanderer - Ayato Constellations
Wrio - Ayato Constellations
Al Haitham - Ayato Constellation
Xianyun - Ayato Constellations
Baizhu - Baizhu Constellations
Childe - ---zhu Constellations
Kokomi - ---omi Constellations
Navia - ---omo Constellations
Lyney - ---ny Constellations
Genshin impact plan
😅 Saving for C6 Tsaritsa
While also pulling other fatuis on the way
Honkai star rail plan
🤔 I'm kinda planning to get E2S1 acheron if she do well without silver wolf
Gonna manifest for c3 neuvillette even though i literally have 40 wishes right now and i 100% pretty much the current map now AHAHAHAHAHA😂
I have been playing for a couple of months now and while I like new character I actually started to think about constellations (as I have no way to play all characters anyway).
So good timing and in my case I will probably go for weapon or cons for Neuvillette.