One more thing: You may just need TIME. RNG is just that. The only thing that can beat the odds is rolling the dice as many times as it takes to hit your goals. Unless you're absolute min-maxing, you WILL get decent artifacts given enough time and trial. Journey on friend. Vidmilo's great video on artifacts: ruclips.net/video/8jX1sb4K6xo/видео.htmlsi=eT0yQDNFXnEZ-WGL My ultimate artifact guide: ruclips.net/video/X_R5aVbCmYs/видео.htmlsi=fdj7cP4GkFdvUALV build better characters: ruclips.net/video/NFS08nx5vYM/видео.htmlsi=DYoqDeqTniyt8wub build better teams: ruclips.net/video/MlZDYV9mlOc/видео.htmlsi=Ti_dpryGifeL4vuA best combat tips: ruclips.net/video/GM_8kJq7o_8/видео.htmlsi=Pt25FHzcbdNtKGd7
Vidlo's video is goated it's my personal baseline when i was starting the game last year. This is good as a base since you're building like 8 characters as new players since ain't gonna lie unless you're building a hyperteam everyone is gonna contribute almost equally, then test abyss then decide upgrades from there
Yes and it takes a lot of time to get that exp. Its really horrendous, I saved 70 resin which is 105 runs in an artefact domain, and its not enough to give 8 characters at least a full set of lv 20 Artefacts, that arent even good just focused on mainstats right now.
I remember coming across Vidmilo's video myself back when I was just beginning to farm artifacts and it was great. I wish he did more vids, but I assume real life took him out of our screens too soon.
This is so good. I rarely comment on RUclips, but this is the perfect approach, and it's so rare from content creators. Good on you! Most Genshin RUclips content is toxic form a player's perspective because it assume's all people are willing to fully spend on resin for 4 years to get the best possible relics, then only use them on 2 teams to get the most amazing Abyss clears instead of equipping all their characters to get the most fun version of the game. You're one of just a couple of content creators who understand that. the game is supposed to be fun, not competitive. Great stuff
As someone who has been playing since the beginning im just NOW understanding character building and artifacts. The feeling of going back to older builds and knowing why and how i messed up my characters is really...a feeling to feel lol.
I know what you mean, the first few months I played the game I kept sacrificing “Energy Recharge” and EM artifacts to the strongbox thinking why would I ever need them, lol.
i know the feeling, as someone who stopped playing for over a year and only came back around 4.2, i feel like i had to relearn a lot of things especially how to properly build my charas (mine weren't even bad before, but i was a bit complacent in that i stopped farming when they were "good enough" and then moved on to other things). i tend to build a lot of my characters too instead of hyperfocusing on just a select few, and i think that stretched out my resources a lot 😅 i'm not a big abyss person but it was only mid fontaine when i really started pouring more energy into building my characters well, especially my supports who have so much better sets now than back then (i.e. shinobu for a hyperbloom build and literally everyone with the emblem set). that's also how i found jello's channel and it's been really helpful 😄 so yea now i feel like i've found renewed purpose in the game, now that i actually kinda know what i'm doing (or at least aiming for) lol also have i found a fellow exo-L? hehe
Each point of Nahida's Elemental Mastery beyond 200 will grant 0.1% Bonus DMG and 0.03% CRIT Rate to Tri-Karma Purification from All Schemes to Know. A maximum of 80% Bonus DMG and 24% CRIT Rate can be granted to Tri-Karma Purification in this manner. So basically if you have 1000 elemental mastery you gain 24% crit rate for Nahida.
Crit is like the foundation to a building - without it, your building would crumble. But nobody's buying a house that is entirely foundation, even if it's the best foundation you've ever seen.
The better way of measuring it is how many useful stats you get from the whole set. Assuming main stat is correct, abyss typically requires 16ish useful stats from all pieces. All pieces with crit rate and crit damage alone are merely 10 useful stats.
43:27 i feel like this was not emphasized enough, but generally burst reliant characters (e.g. Bennett, Xingqiu, Xiangling, etc.) getting your ER requirement takes more priority than getting a good crit value/other offensive stat (as shown in this part of the video). Xiangling can't deal damage without her burst, Benny can't buff without his burst etc. Some TC's even say ER is the most important stat in genshin until its not. Xingqiu for example, i would rather play a 30crt rate, 80crt dmge, 200ER xingqiu than a 60crt rate, 120crt dmge, 120ER xingqiu. The "until its not" here is very important, basically once you reach the comfortable ER% you prefer, then you start going for other stats. (though this is not applicable to all characters since not all characters in genshin are burst reliant, the perfect example of this is Yoimiya where you can just totally ignore her ER, even has a signature artifact set that actively not let her burst 😂).
it's more than that favonius the best weapon in Genshin is reliant on crit being more or less guaranteed. For that purpose crit rate is much more important than crit damage. Because they fodder energy to your characters that's how that weapon works in general.
@@Boutneus12 Mora doesn't save resin. And the teapot doesn't give talent books. I assume you meant xp cards. But still, those don't save resin either. If you are using resin on leylines, you are wasting resin. Just don't waste resin in the first place. You are saving resin by not doing leylines. Not by getting that stuff in the teapot. Be patient and you will get enough cards and mora with time. At ar 60, advanture xp is turned into additional mora instead.
When you go to Akasha CV, if you go to your account and expand one of your characters you will see Category that says "Show substat priority", it will show what substat gives the biggest damage on your build for a *specific rotation on a specific leaderboard*. Don't take it as a 100% match to your account, because ranking depend on constellations, weapons, and team mates. It's just to give a general idea which substat would have the most weight.
@@fluff0000zz akasha.cv is a third party website that ranks public profile builds against eachother. It bases the ranking off of solely your artifact quality and what the optimal damage your character would do in a rotation/ single hit. Some characters won't have a ranking like Tighnari ATM), some (like Xiangling or Furina) will have many rankings to choose from. Just pick the one that best fits your build
Akasha recommendation is great but also inaccurate. It has my Childe, Tao, Sayu, Benny, etc hitting X max dmg (in specific comps) yet I'm doing 100s of thousands more dmg in open world than what the calculator says. Imo Akasha is simply a flex database
Jello impact being the people's goat. I swear artifact is a balancing act and a lottery at the same time it isn't funny Great video dude helps new players or people that's confused
One thing ive noticed through my 3yrs of playing the game is 2 valuable substats is ALWAYS better than 1 roll of crit. Even in extreme examples like double attack buffed Raiden from Bennet and sara (both with highest base atk weapons), and raiden on ATK% goblet, she would rather have 2 atk% rolls than 1 crit.
Often yes but if its two lowest rolls vs 1 max roll, maybe not. Also, maybe not if its ER and the value is diminished from already meeting your energy requirement.
Getting and leveling a new 5* artifact has TWENTY TWO LAYERS OF RNG! TOTALLY ABSURD AND EVIL! 1 - which set drops 2 - which of the 5 artifacts drop 3 - which main stat 4 - 3 or 4 line start 5 - which substat line 1 6 - how much of the sub stat line 1, min roll to max roll 7 - which substat line 2 8 - how much of the sub stat line 2, min roll to max roll 9 - which substat line 3 10 - how much of the sub stat line 3, min roll to max roll 11 - which substat line 4 12 - how much of the sub stat line 4, min roll to max roll 13 - lvl4 which stat goes up 14 - lvl4 how much does it go up 15 - lvl8 which stat goes up 16 - lvl8 how much does it go up 17 - lvl12 which stat goes up 18 - lvl12 how much does it go up 19 - lvl16 which stat goes up 20 - lvl16 how much does it go up 21 - lvl20 which stat goes up 22 - lvl20 how much does it go up Thats not even taking into account that drop rates for the stats you want are skewed so heavily towards the bad stats we avoid. Flat Atk/HP/Def are the most likely to show up, then % stats, then the stuff we really want way below being Crit, ER and EM. Not just substats either, of course Elemental Dmg, Crit, EM, and ER mainstats are the hardest to get on their relevant artifacts. AND THEN your only allowed to farm artifacts a few times a day because it cost a limited resource to get them, the same limited resource you have to use for character and weapon enhancement materials and the Exp and money needed to do everything in the game so if your farming artifacts you cant be getting your other materials and vice versa. The artifact system is atrocious and aggressively anti-player.
The thing is you just don’t need anywhere near perfect artifacts to clear content. So it’s not really a problem that perfect artifacts are unavailable That being said a rerol or pity system of some kind would be nice
39:22 - Cracked Neuvillette build 😇 IMO I don't like gambling xp on so many of those single crit all other bad substat pieces trying to get a unicorn that rolls all into crit. The odds are just not in your favor, it's a waste of xp. Better to filter for solid start as baseline (3 liner with 2 good subs or 4 liner with 3 good subs), that way even when you "fail" at crit you can still end up with useful pieces like crazy high ER.
for new players i also want to stress out that talents are as important as artifacts! sometimes crowning or leveling talents up to 9 is easier, more efficient and just simply better than farming endlessly one domain.
I know this is a 7 month old comment but I came into the comments to say exactly this. New players need to focus on character levels/weapon level/talent levels first. Those upgrades are guaranteed. Artifacts aren't.
24:46 definitely hang onto that double crit Husk piece that rolled into Def% - most characters that use Husk use Def as their primary stat, so that is basically equivalent to a double crit piece that rolled into Atk%, and two of the characters who use it (Itto and Noelle) use Redhorn Stonethresher as their preferred weapon, and that thing comes with slightly over 90% crit damage, increasing the probability that your build reaches the point of primary stat being more valuable than crit - and if it exclusively rolls into Def% from where it currently is, it becomes a nigh-perfect artifact for Yun Jin, whose Burst provides Def-scaled bonus damage that benefits from the damage amp and crit of the character performing the Normal Attack to trigger it, not her own.
One of the things I do to save time is if my character has a signature weapon (or any upgrade over their best F2P option), I'll usually stop farming their set a bit early since the weapon makes up for a lot of power. It still allows my character to be "on par," but saves a TON of time (especially if I'm waiting for a sand/goblet/crown upgrade). Another thing is to keep EVERY goblet you get unless it has 3+ flat stats on it (ones basically useless for every build). I've been burned so many times by not keeping ATK goblets and then I get Shenhe or Xianyun and only have crit-focused ATK goblets to choose from. Saving a few extra artifacts every week and ensuring you don't get burned in the future is SO worth it. I still have like 50 DEF goblets waiting around for a character that needs them but it's FINE lol
me => actively Getting Crimson Witch => Maréechaussée is the biggest scam ever xD only good for Neuvillette, Lyney and Wrothesley, ppl should stop copium about this...
Generally what I aim for is: 30~40CV for Flower and Feather, 20~30CV on your off piece and 15~25CV for the 2 remaining set pieces. I also take into account other useful stats like stat%, ER and EM with may lower my expected CV threshold. How much I value each will change depending on the character. Those CV values are values that are achievable without having to over farm the same artifacts. Usually achievable in 1~3 weeks of domain farm for a specific set.
@@demkadeem It depends a lot on luck. Usually your off piece ends up being a elemental goblet. You only go for a different off piece if you drop a usable/decent on set elemental goblet. Dropping a good elemental goblet and getting good rolls on it is the rarest thing in the game. Even after 3 years most of my elemental goblets aren't cracked. My best ones are two 48CV for electro and one 41CV for Animo with are amazing but other elements rover between 25~35. And another thing that is extremely rare/hard to get is a circlet with more than 20CV on substats. I only have one that reached 35CV, all the others are 25CV or below. @ I have being rarely farming artefact domains for a very long time. Getting better ones are extremely rare now so its not worth the effort.
"Usually achievable in 1~3 weeks of domain farm for a specific set." Not for me lol. I'll spend that long just trying to secure the mainstats with a 4 piece set bonus.
@@Elrog3 Usually is not a guaranteed... You can play the game for 10 years and never get it the same way you can get it in 1 day. All you can do is pray for the RNG gods.
You should NEVER use 5* artifacts as fodder! All it does is saves you some time in the short run. Artifacts in this game are all about the long run. You can farm 9 five-star artifacts per day (assuming you're not replenishing resin), that's 34k exp. If you need artifact exp so much, you need to farm free 1* and 2*, it doesn't take much time and you can get up to 60k free exp each day. I prefer to just wait and farm domains. One domain run for 20 resin gets you roughly 14700 exp, 3780 of that is your only 5*. Why would you ever use it as exp? Strongbox ratio is actually not 3:1, but 2:1. Out of, let's say, 90 artifacts you get 30 pieces (of the particular set - that's huge), but then out of those 30 you can get another 10, and another 3, and another 1 new artifact. In summary out of 90 artifacts you get 44 chances to roll something decent. And it doesn't require time (resin). And there are rumors, that chances to get a 4-liner from strongboxes are higher, than from domains. This doesn't apply to the leveled 5* artifacts, ofc. Those should be used for leveling.
Using 5 stars as fodder instead of strongbox is very bad advice. Especially early, the strongbox is your only resin efficient source of sets that are paired with an unwanted set. VV in particular. The other thing, it costs around 60 five star artifacts to get one to max level, they are worth way too little. That's at least 20 new artifacts from the box, 400 resin value, 800 if you only wanted one set from a domain. And then there is the fact strongbox has a higher probability to give 4 rows so it both gives you overall better artifacts especially early on but saves artifact exp on fewer pieces you need to raise to level 4 to see whether they are trash or worth upgrading.
How many players like me were being told : "Don't use your fragile resin before AR45" and did it anyway? I maybe used half or 2/3 of it but if I knew. Why is it that I had so many fragiles back then?
In my opinion, artifacts are the single worst thing about genshin impact and if their rng factor gets reduced (which it won't) it would make the game much more enjoyable in general
I’m at a stage now where most of my main damage dealers have all artifacts at level 20 (though more than a few could use better replacements) and my sub-DSPs and supports have a range of leveled and unleveled, bad, and nonexistent pieces. Meanwhile I have quite the collection of locked unleveled pieces with “potential” just waiting until I’m done building my characters before I start testing them to see if any of them turn out to be good. I JUST realized while watching this that instead of taking all the artifact fodder I earn to slowly “finish” leveling all my characters’ pieces I should be rolling some of my pieces-in-waiting and foddering the disappointments for my supports and sub-DPSs that still need the XP which should allow me to kill two birds with one stone. I guess I didn’t think through my build everyone first plan to the end point where I end up with a bunch of partially-leveled pieces that aren’t very good with no one to feed them to.
It’s also funny how the artifact RNG completely sublimates all gambling urges. Instead of being tempted to pull on a banner I’m being tempted to use fragile resin for another three artifact runs that will get me another set to feed into the strongbox.
I disagree with #7 in your artifact bible. You don't need to say not to be afraid to spend teapot currency on arti xp. It should be the main thing you get. If you are trying to get as strong teams as possible long term, you should never fodder lvl 0 5 star artis. Use them all at the strongbox. If you are trying to get to where you can 36 star as early as possible and are less concerned with getting stronger after that, there might be times when it makes sense to fodder lvl 0 5 star artis. But it shouldn't be the normal way you use them.
2 months of all my resin on Deepwood for my new Nahida. Literally only 2 x EM sands for EM drops and both had garbage sub-stats. So unfun to not have some way to guarantee a basic build like Honkai's self-modeling resin. Or at least put every set into the strongbox system ffs. I don't mind the artifact grind, but not having some gradual way to guarantee a set over time is pretty disheartening.
My personal rule is never use a 5 star artifact as EXP fodder unless it's 16+ Every 5 star you feed, is 1/3 of a potential god piece. Artifact EXP is free, 5*artifacts cost resin.
Artifacts are not even hard to obtain by beginning players, but also people who played from the start. and it's also one of the factors that i don`t recement late starters to even start playing the game. i changed my mind during 3.0., except form archons. i now pull for characters where i get the good artifact rolls for first. for example. the maruche hunter/golden troupe domain. i got good artifact set out of them so it was justified too wish and build for characters like furina, charlotte, i lost my 50/50 on neuvelette but i have his weapon and a good artifact set so for me it`s now even justified to spend money to get them because preparation is already done,. but when navia launched and i did her artifact domain., i didn't receive a good set. so no I'm not wishing for her. let hoyo first give me a good reason to get the characters because i don`t want to get a headache after i pay for characters just to know they are not going to perform good because i get def/hp rolls on characters that need att/crit. its reverse psychology and for my wallet it works. because i have a group of characters that i now have regret pulling i wish they were better. because i have got all character and standard banner characters before 3.0. but didn't 36 star the abyss because i was slapping artifacts on them that weren't good enough. even though i have most characters c2. after 3.0 i focused less on getting and building characters and getting the right artifact stats for them and skipping a lot of characters so i have finally the resin to spend on doing A TON of domains, and now i finally have some decent sets with good rolls for those characters. so i`ve skipped a lot of characters after 3.0 but i gor better characters for them in return and ive spend arounbd 4k before 3.0 and "only" 600 after untill now 4.4 and i`ve got a lot better characters now then with those 4k i`ve spend. so the bottom line is that the RNG on the artifact is preventing me to spend on this game, if the RNG wasn't on the artifacts or grindning artifacts didn't require resin, ive would have spend a lot more
Just a reminder that the overhype of crit is based on the meta of atk being buffed with Bennet and/or Noblesse. It's much easier to get your baseline ER, EM, elemental goblet, and a high main stat than a crazy high crit value. Unless you're skyrocketing over 2500 atk, it's only about 2% worse while being outrageously easier to farm. It can even be better than crit in HP or EM teams.
ER is super super important! I know we are all super fascinated with 45+ CV artifacts, BUT those impressive stats are useless if you have low atk and poor ER. It’s good to have a nice balance, that allows you to burst often enough, and still give you enough atk to do decent damage. Talents is also key aswell! Atleast getting to level 9 is good for you,and atleast having a small understanding of your teams. Using the right characters rotations helps a lot too!
He’s definitely swapping around artifacts. I highly doubt he has 75 30+ CV artifacts for all 19 characters. Those goblets and circlets getting passed around like a sex worker lol 😂
About 28:20 I do casual overworld artifact routes either in public transit (too laggy for combat) or to reset my brain after Abyss or other event minigames. It feels like the gain is there but it isn’t big. (Written guides show the math of how much EXP)
Finished my daily fodder run while watching, 15 mins well spent. Need to refill the store after updating Mike's build now that she's C2 so I'll be ready for Clorinde 😊
Great guide! I would love more content for the part "Pick two teams and build them first". I struggled a lot finding teams that don't get countered every second abyss. Nilou is often at a huge disadvantage, Raiden just always works since her teams usually feature 3-4 elements, Neuvilette rarely works on one side but still excels in the other side. - I would love if someone would actually evaluate teams and count the number of recent abyss floor 12 where the team worked.
FANTASTIC VIDEO!! Tysm for this one, it is just perfect, and your 18 pts bible just recaps everything perfectly in a nutshell!!! You should really consider a teaching career, honestly.
My balance for when artifacts is good enough is: The character can clear abyss 12 in a rotation that don’t favor said character. This is my “go to” when i farm for a character.
In regards to artifact farming routes, I do one that takes about 5-10 minutes and it's pretty chill once I got it memorised. It's not the biggest amount of xp (not enough to level a piece to +20), but since you can go a while without getting good pieces, if you keep farming the route daily then that effort will show when you finally do get a good piece and decide to level it.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that the transient resin averages out to give more artifact exp per coin. 1200 coins nets you three domain runs, which averages to 43,545 artifact exp while the same number of coins put toward (3.333 purple) potions is 33,333 artifact exp. However, you earn about 2k coins per week so it might be worth taking the transient and then a couple of the exp potions to make up the 2k balance.
My understanding is that if you were to fodder your 5 star artifact when counting the resin the bottles give you the bottles are better value. But the fact that artifact domains can actually give a 5 star artifact, they bottles are technically only better value than other resin items if you feed your artifacts. The true answer is that you should get whatever resin items you are lacking. There’s nothing more optimal than that.
I already commented my interest in the artifact farming route video, but I just got through to the end of the video and I gotta say you did a great job summarizing all the important points AND giving us examples of how to do this. You have really matured into a solid understanding of Genshin's systems and many players benefit from watching you. Thank you!!
Farming artifacts around the overworld is completely useless because they are such low stars! They should drop more 4 stars in the overworld in the harder areas.
Just mix it up. Instead of focusing on character or domain, hop between a few. It'll take longer before you have one strong character, but it's a game, so having fun matters more. Also, you can change how you run the domain as well... instead of always taking the same team, play different ones. And maybe do it in co-op. Just little things to add variety. Ideally, early on, swap between the various domains with a good 2 piece artifact set bonuses, as you can then run those 2 piece pairings on characters.
I used to do it every day, the xp boost is very useful (lvl 0-12 daily). It's pretty chill, zooming around with sound of artifacts popping out of crates is really relaxing. It takes about 10-30 minutes depending on loadscreen and if you have overworld speedy units like Yelan, Sayu, Wanderer, Xianyun, etc. Stopped around the debut of Star Rail because upkeep on both games at once was getting too much, plus after 3 years my builds are good enough to not need the boost. I have noticed that my max artifacts are constantly overflowing now though, since I don't have the extra daily xp to test multiple pieces and chain fodder them anymore.
I'm finally trying to get into the endgame and I'm trying to get good sets for my Nilou and Shogun teams, so I'd love a farming route video. I'm struggling so hard with arftifact exp. I subbed a while back, great vids. 😊
one question: my furina has, 89:233 crit ratio is this normal ? i am not whale , i am f2p... and i think its quite high, when i told people my nahida have 1493em they say lower the em because it will affect the gameplay. so should i lower the crit ratio too?!!!
Thanks for your videos. I wish if would have learned sooner about not taking 5 star artifacts to 20 if they're not "good enough". Your content has helped me so much the last two months as someone who had only played three months total before starting to play for real around Christmas. I've been able to work on catching up my characters, builds and even account in a much more optimized and intelligent way than I ever would have if I tried to figure out everything on my own through trial and error.
Would enjoy an artifact route video! I still do it at AR60. I feel like leveling using 1-star artifacts is too expensive - I've been trashing 1-star artifacts for Mora and using the 2-4 stars for fodder instead.
Thanks for the video, it's very detailed and informative. I realized that I may have foddered good goblets now... oh well :') I also love the artifact bible, really good summary for a complex topic. I recently just started doing artifact farming routes, but I'd still like to see your opinion of it. You often make a lot points that I've missed. Currently, I'm of the mind that it's good if you want something to do when you're out of resin and you still want to or have time to play.
Personally i value Substats in general like this: Crit DMG > Crit Rate > ER > EM > HP% > AT% > Garbage So when do I say an artifact is good? 1: Main stat is what i want. 2: It has 3+ stats above "Garbage" 3: (optional) it starts out with 4 stats (reduces RNG) This is PERFECT for getting floor 11 of the abyss. You will need to be much pickyer for the 36 stars... but this is a nice BASELINE regardless of artifact for GOOD results. Note: Now i value HP% this much because there are a LOT of characters that scale with HP, almost any Hydro has some sort of HP scaling. And not getting one shotted is nice. And i find that HP is more valueable than DEF in terms of survivability. So unless i specifically am building DEF, thats the worst stat i can see.
My baseline is 75% crit rate. If you’re a statistician I forget what it’s called but there’s is actually a higher chance based on the way things roll that actually makes 75% a higher crit rate than what it shows and something like 25% is lower than it shows, I forget though. For Crit dmg it’s just as high as I can get it without sacrificing crit rate. For ER I only take into account cost vs teams. Arleccino for example is my new favorite and doesn’t need much ER since she’s always paired with a pyro character and doesn’t depend on her burst having constant uptime AND it’s not super high cost. For all other stats it’s just taking what I can get but I generally move into farming previous artifact sets that I can’t get strongbox. The only one I really farmed that much for was my Yae Miko, mine is only C1 so I actually don’t need to do Golden since her dmg is pretty 60/40 for skill/burst
11:00 well i think i'll end up doing a video myself on this, but to me it's as follows: 60-70 C.Rate is enough no matter the character. There are exceptions. However, Crit dmg, should be as much as possible, after that, atk/hp% or EM (for Dendro) then ER. Ignore the 1:2 rate when it can be 1:4.
New player? Try this: focus on main stat only, ignore substats. You will save A TON of farming time and resources. You will shield yourself against the frustration of Artifact RNG. You'll feel happy when getting good substats, but not crappy when you don't. You'll be able to have more sets ready for more characters faster. You will clear all difficult content regardless.
Been farming artifact investigate points every single day. Very quickly max level artifacts to lvl 20. However it is still too expensive - takes too many fodder artifacts _and mora_ to test out all the KIV artifacts that could potentially yield marvelous results. The typical case unfortunately is new artifacts would just be marginally better and worse in other areas (e.g. lose ER or ATK).
I have mine at 40 crit 80 critical with the artifacts I have never really started farming for artifacts AR 45 banked over 270000 exp maxed out weopans and talents at level 8
Finding the perfect artifact is like maxing character talents... You could spend an endless amount of time in an unforgiving domain that spits DEF pieces in your face OR you can stop being addicted to the gatcha within the gatcha and make your character a king/queen. Do it. Do it now. I know you all neglect your talents and hoard your crowns!!
I would like if we could upgrade 4* artifacts to 5* and they'd get a free extra stat to roll. So like if you get a 4* circlet with your main stat, and it has double crit and ER, you might wanna keep that, and upgrade it to 5* where it gets a free 4th stat and then you can roll it up from 1-20. I think it would make artifact farming so much nicer if I could also look at 4* again.
Interesting vid! Yes, about the levels of characters, I level them to lv 71, for those that I hardly or will even use. Max to those I would use. Why lv 71? To get the final free wish at lv 70, and to remind myself final wish is gotten so 71 as a marker.
i still dont know and i need help tbh :( idk how get anything more then purples rn and i cant even get good stats i have some blizzard peaces i am not ar 40 yet but i am ar 38 so was a lil worried about it
Anyone can get the best artifacts they want with a credit card...most CCs do it. However, what is the point? Genshin is clearable with just main stats and sets on any synergy team.
when you put a crit value weapon onto your character to see the stats go up: 😈😈😈😈 when you put all your best artifacts onto one character ignoring the sets just to see stats go up: 😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈 haha love the video dont do what i mentioned above ;)
I get what you’re saying bro. At first you just need to get the artifact sets you need and start off with low standards and just try to build a little cv with other useful stats for the character. Once you start getting better pieces then you can set your standards higher and focus on double liner crits and the highest quality artifacts.
60/120 is breaking point for crit bing better than attack under assumption that you can freely choose between stats. Not very realistic assumption so not sure about practical value of this.
The problem is you have to set a benchmark somewhere. Of course it’s arbitrary and you have to work with what you have, but it’s nice to have a little something in mind to work towards for most people as opposed to everything being a nebulous “it depends”
Depends on other factors. Lets say you play for 2+ years, have 9/10 understanding of game concepts, 8/10 mechanical skill and a tight roster of liked characters. Then you can get away with smth around 45/90. However a casual console/mobile player who is bad at math might need 70/150 and some 5* weapons/cons to compensate. From some anecdotal evidence of mine id say that 60/120 is good benchmark for an average Joe who is dedicated enough to watch the guide.
There buffs given by your other characters play a huge part too. Bennett giving such a huge buff to atk means that for the teams that use him atk reaches those diminishing returns much faster than crit does for example
One more thing: You may just need TIME. RNG is just that. The only thing that can beat the odds is rolling the dice as many times as it takes to hit your goals. Unless you're absolute min-maxing, you WILL get decent artifacts given enough time and trial. Journey on friend.
Vidmilo's great video on artifacts: ruclips.net/video/8jX1sb4K6xo/видео.htmlsi=eT0yQDNFXnEZ-WGL
My ultimate artifact guide: ruclips.net/video/X_R5aVbCmYs/видео.htmlsi=fdj7cP4GkFdvUALV
build better characters: ruclips.net/video/NFS08nx5vYM/видео.htmlsi=DYoqDeqTniyt8wub
build better teams: ruclips.net/video/MlZDYV9mlOc/видео.htmlsi=Ti_dpryGifeL4vuA
best combat tips: ruclips.net/video/GM_8kJq7o_8/видео.htmlsi=Pt25FHzcbdNtKGd7
thnk u for his consise breakdown
Vidlo's video is goated it's my personal baseline when i was starting the game last year.
This is good as a base since you're building like 8 characters as new players since ain't gonna lie unless you're building a hyperteam everyone is gonna contribute almost equally, then test abyss then decide upgrades from there
Yes and it takes a lot of time to get that exp. Its really horrendous, I saved 70 resin which is 105 runs in an artefact domain, and its not enough to give 8 characters at least a full set of lv 20 Artefacts, that arent even good just focused on mainstats right now.
I remember coming across Vidmilo's video myself back when I was just beginning to farm artifacts and it was great. I wish he did more vids, but I assume real life took him out of our screens too soon.
This is so good. I rarely comment on RUclips, but this is the perfect approach, and it's so rare from content creators. Good on you!
Most Genshin RUclips content is toxic form a player's perspective because it assume's all people are willing to fully spend on resin for 4 years to get the best possible relics, then only use them on 2 teams to get the most amazing Abyss clears instead of equipping all their characters to get the most fun version of the game. You're one of just a couple of content creators who understand that. the game is supposed to be fun, not competitive. Great stuff
As someone who has been playing since the beginning im just NOW understanding character building and artifacts. The feeling of going back to older builds and knowing why and how i messed up my characters is really...a feeling to feel lol.
no your just learning ofc meta shift like xangling new artifact
bruh 💀
I know what you mean, the first few months I played the game I kept sacrificing “Energy Recharge” and EM artifacts to the strongbox thinking why would I ever need them, lol.
Start a second account and do it right even if it's ftp I did and it's worth it
i know the feeling, as someone who stopped playing for over a year and only came back around 4.2, i feel like i had to relearn a lot of things especially how to properly build my charas (mine weren't even bad before, but i was a bit complacent in that i stopped farming when they were "good enough" and then moved on to other things). i tend to build a lot of my characters too instead of hyperfocusing on just a select few, and i think that stretched out my resources a lot 😅 i'm not a big abyss person but it was only mid fontaine when i really started pouring more energy into building my characters well, especially my supports who have so much better sets now than back then (i.e. shinobu for a hyperbloom build and literally everyone with the emblem set). that's also how i found jello's channel and it's been really helpful 😄 so yea now i feel like i've found renewed purpose in the game, now that i actually kinda know what i'm doing (or at least aiming for) lol
also have i found a fellow exo-L? hehe
Excellent video to add to your website which links back to your RUclips channel.
24:11 what do you mean bad? If that rolls CR it's insane on this set
That raiden is cracked
I’m a simp what can I say
Wait how does nahida give herself crit rate? I’m confused
Each point of Nahida's Elemental Mastery beyond 200 will grant 0.1% Bonus DMG and 0.03% CRIT Rate to Tri-Karma Purification from All Schemes to Know.
A maximum of 80% Bonus DMG and 24% CRIT Rate can be granted to Tri-Karma Purification in this manner.
So basically if you have 1000 elemental mastery you gain 24% crit rate for Nahida.
Petition to see Jello trying out and testing every single artifact farming route to help us decide which farming route to pick.
By farming route, you mean testing all applicable artifacts to see if they’d work well or like which domains to farm? Or smth else?
Finished the video, just disregard what I said 😭
I need this please!
@@iunanimous1983can YOU tell me what you were trying to me.
~commenting after watching 2 minutes~
well never mind, i also found out what farming route. its been so long since I heard anyone mention artifact farming routes
Crit is like the foundation to a building - without it, your building would crumble. But nobody's buying a house that is entirely foundation, even if it's the best foundation you've ever seen.
The better way of measuring it is how many useful stats you get from the whole set. Assuming main stat is correct, abyss typically requires 16ish useful stats from all pieces. All pieces with crit rate and crit damage alone are merely 10 useful stats.
Substat is like buying a new car (High CV+ Artifact) or a broken down car (Triple Flat Stat)
43:27 i feel like this was not emphasized enough, but generally burst reliant characters (e.g. Bennett, Xingqiu, Xiangling, etc.) getting your ER requirement takes more priority than getting a good crit value/other offensive stat (as shown in this part of the video). Xiangling can't deal damage without her burst, Benny can't buff without his burst etc. Some TC's even say ER is the most important stat in genshin until its not. Xingqiu for example, i would rather play a 30crt rate, 80crt dmge, 200ER xingqiu than a 60crt rate, 120crt dmge, 120ER xingqiu. The "until its not" here is very important, basically once you reach the comfortable ER% you prefer, then you start going for other stats.
(though this is not applicable to all characters since not all characters in genshin are burst reliant, the perfect example of this is Yoimiya where you can just totally ignore her ER, even has a signature artifact set that actively not let her burst 😂).
it's more than that favonius the best weapon in Genshin is reliant on crit being more or less guaranteed. For that purpose crit rate is much more important than crit damage. Because they fodder energy to your characters that's how that weapon works in general.
God dayum, who let Jello cook. This is gourmet
Do your teapots. Those potions give a lot of artifact XP.
Ong I got like 300 of each lmao
@@grrah3939same. I farm too much and have constant supply of trash blue and purple. I even strong box +4 golds lol. I don’t fodder any fr exp.
This. I buy them every week. If you have high adepti energy you can afford to buy all the big xp potions and the resin every week.
Waste, just do your overworld farms. Save teapot for mora and books which literally save resin spend
@@Boutneus12 Mora doesn't save resin. And the teapot doesn't give talent books. I assume you meant xp cards. But still, those don't save resin either. If you are using resin on leylines, you are wasting resin. Just don't waste resin in the first place. You are saving resin by not doing leylines. Not by getting that stuff in the teapot. Be patient and you will get enough cards and mora with time. At ar 60, advanture xp is turned into additional mora instead.
i try helping my friend (ar 56) with artifacts, then they say they play for fun, but then complain they dont do as much damage as me
@@TheeGayGod do i know you???
@@TheeGayGod "I know you but you don't know me" what is this the conversation between traveler and amnesia wanderer??
When you go to Akasha CV, if you go to your account and expand one of your characters you will see Category that says "Show substat priority", it will show what substat gives the biggest damage on your build for a *specific rotation on a specific leaderboard*. Don't take it as a 100% match to your account, because ranking depend on constellations, weapons, and team mates. It's just to give a general idea which substat would have the most weight.
Good tip
Whats that?
@@fluff0000zz akasha.cv is a third party website that ranks public profile builds against eachother. It bases the ranking off of solely your artifact quality and what the optimal damage your character would do in a rotation/ single hit.
Some characters won't have a ranking like Tighnari ATM), some (like Xiangling or Furina) will have many rankings to choose from. Just pick the one that best fits your build
@@fluff0000zza website to compare your artifact strength.
try searching akasha genshin
Akasha recommendation is great but also inaccurate. It has my Childe, Tao, Sayu, Benny, etc hitting X max dmg (in specific comps) yet I'm doing 100s of thousands more dmg in open world than what the calculator says. Imo Akasha is simply a flex database
Jello impact being the people's goat. I swear artifact is a balancing act and a lottery at the same time it isn't funny
Great video dude helps new players or people that's confused
One thing ive noticed through my 3yrs of playing the game is 2 valuable substats is ALWAYS better than 1 roll of crit. Even in extreme examples like double attack buffed Raiden from Bennet and sara (both with highest base atk weapons), and raiden on ATK% goblet, she would rather have 2 atk% rolls than 1 crit.
Often yes but if its two lowest rolls vs 1 max roll, maybe not. Also, maybe not if its ER and the value is diminished from already meeting your energy requirement.
Getting and leveling a new 5* artifact has TWENTY TWO LAYERS OF RNG! TOTALLY ABSURD AND EVIL!
1 - which set drops
2 - which of the 5 artifacts drop
3 - which main stat
4 - 3 or 4 line start
5 - which substat line 1
6 - how much of the sub stat line 1, min roll to max roll
7 - which substat line 2
8 - how much of the sub stat line 2, min roll to max roll
9 - which substat line 3
10 - how much of the sub stat line 3, min roll to max roll
11 - which substat line 4
12 - how much of the sub stat line 4, min roll to max roll
13 - lvl4 which stat goes up
14 - lvl4 how much does it go up
15 - lvl8 which stat goes up
16 - lvl8 how much does it go up
17 - lvl12 which stat goes up
18 - lvl12 how much does it go up
19 - lvl16 which stat goes up
20 - lvl16 how much does it go up
21 - lvl20 which stat goes up
22 - lvl20 how much does it go up
Thats not even taking into account that drop rates for the stats you want are skewed so heavily towards the bad stats we avoid. Flat Atk/HP/Def are the most likely to show up, then % stats, then the stuff we really want way below being Crit, ER and EM. Not just substats either, of course Elemental Dmg, Crit, EM, and ER mainstats are the hardest to get on their relevant artifacts. AND THEN your only allowed to farm artifacts a few times a day because it cost a limited resource to get them, the same limited resource you have to use for character and weapon enhancement materials and the Exp and money needed to do everything in the game so if your farming artifacts you cant be getting your other materials and vice versa. The artifact system is atrocious and aggressively anti-player.
The thing is you just don’t need anywhere near perfect artifacts to clear content. So it’s not really a problem that perfect artifacts are unavailable
That being said a rerol or pity system of some kind would be nice
39:22 - Cracked Neuvillette build 😇
IMO I don't like gambling xp on so many of those single crit all other bad substat pieces trying to get a unicorn that rolls all into crit. The odds are just not in your favor, it's a waste of xp.
Better to filter for solid start as baseline (3 liner with 2 good subs or 4 liner with 3 good subs), that way even when you "fail" at crit you can still end up with useful pieces like crazy high ER.
Never tell me the odds that 7.8% Crit could go nuts
Great mindset. don't add more random to what already randomized. In short less random is good 😅
for new players i also want to stress out that talents are as important as artifacts! sometimes crowning or leveling talents up to 9 is easier, more efficient and just simply better than farming endlessly one domain.
I know this is a 7 month old comment but I came into the comments to say exactly this. New players need to focus on character levels/weapon level/talent levels first. Those upgrades are guaranteed. Artifacts aren't.
@@elizabethlundin3112I agree
You're a godsend Jello. Thank you.
24:46 definitely hang onto that double crit Husk piece that rolled into Def% - most characters that use Husk use Def as their primary stat, so that is basically equivalent to a double crit piece that rolled into Atk%, and two of the characters who use it (Itto and Noelle) use Redhorn Stonethresher as their preferred weapon, and that thing comes with slightly over 90% crit damage, increasing the probability that your build reaches the point of primary stat being more valuable than crit - and if it exclusively rolls into Def% from where it currently is, it becomes a nigh-perfect artifact for Yun Jin, whose Burst provides Def-scaled bonus damage that benefits from the damage amp and crit of the character performing the Normal Attack to trigger it, not her own.
One of the things I do to save time is if my character has a signature weapon (or any upgrade over their best F2P option), I'll usually stop farming their set a bit early since the weapon makes up for a lot of power. It still allows my character to be "on par," but saves a TON of time (especially if I'm waiting for a sand/goblet/crown upgrade).
Another thing is to keep EVERY goblet you get unless it has 3+ flat stats on it (ones basically useless for every build). I've been burned so many times by not keeping ATK goblets and then I get Shenhe or Xianyun and only have crit-focused ATK goblets to choose from. Saving a few extra artifacts every week and ensuring you don't get burned in the future is SO worth it. I still have like 50 DEF goblets waiting around for a character that needs them but it's FINE lol
me => actively Getting Crimson Witch => Maréechaussée is the biggest scam ever xD only good for Neuvillette, Lyney and Wrothesley, ppl should stop copium about this...
Generally what I aim for is:
30~40CV for Flower and Feather, 20~30CV on your off piece and 15~25CV for the 2 remaining set pieces. I also take into account other useful stats like stat%, ER and EM with may lower my expected CV threshold. How much I value each will change depending on the character.
Those CV values are values that are achievable without having to over farm the same artifacts. Usually achievable in 1~3 weeks of domain farm for a specific set.
Real talk, these are good and sane stopping points 👍👍
I feel like your off piece should be cracked
@@demkadeem It depends a lot on luck.
Usually your off piece ends up being a elemental goblet. You only go for a different off piece if you drop a usable/decent on set elemental goblet.
Dropping a good elemental goblet and getting good rolls on it is the rarest thing in the game.
Even after 3 years most of my elemental goblets aren't cracked. My best ones are two 48CV for electro and one 41CV for Animo with are amazing but other elements rover between 25~35.
And another thing that is extremely rare/hard to get is a circlet with more than 20CV on substats. I only have one that reached 35CV, all the others are 25CV or below.
@ I have being rarely farming artefact domains for a very long time. Getting better ones are extremely rare now so its not worth the effort.
"Usually achievable in 1~3 weeks of domain farm for a specific set." Not for me lol. I'll spend that long just trying to secure the mainstats with a 4 piece set bonus.
@@Elrog3 Usually is not a guaranteed... You can play the game for 10 years and never get it the same way you can get it in 1 day.
All you can do is pray for the RNG gods.
Rosaria being the only crit rate buffer: 🗿🗿💅💅 *gigachad theme*
How dare you forget Geo Traveler 😭
@@planetary-rendez-vous I’m sorry😭 I forgot they existed.
You should NEVER use 5* artifacts as fodder! All it does is saves you some time in the short run. Artifacts in this game are all about the long run.
You can farm 9 five-star artifacts per day (assuming you're not replenishing resin), that's 34k exp. If you need artifact exp so much, you need to farm free 1* and 2*, it doesn't take much time and you can get up to 60k free exp each day. I prefer to just wait and farm domains.
One domain run for 20 resin gets you roughly 14700 exp, 3780 of that is your only 5*. Why would you ever use it as exp?
Strongbox ratio is actually not 3:1, but 2:1.
Out of, let's say, 90 artifacts you get 30 pieces (of the particular set - that's huge), but then out of those 30 you can get another 10, and another 3, and another 1 new artifact. In summary out of 90 artifacts you get 44 chances to roll something decent. And it doesn't require time (resin). And there are rumors, that chances to get a 4-liner from strongboxes are higher, than from domains.
This doesn't apply to the leveled 5* artifacts, ofc. Those should be used for leveling.
Using 5 stars as fodder instead of strongbox is very bad advice.
Especially early, the strongbox is your only resin efficient source of sets that are paired with an unwanted set. VV in particular.
The other thing, it costs around 60 five star artifacts to get one to max level, they are worth way too little. That's at least 20 new artifacts from the box, 400 resin value, 800 if you only wanted one set from a domain.
And then there is the fact strongbox has a higher probability to give 4 rows so it both gives you overall better artifacts especially early on but saves artifact exp on fewer pieces you need to raise to level 4 to see whether they are trash or worth upgrading.
How many players like me were being told : "Don't use your fragile resin before AR45" and did it anyway?
I maybe used half or 2/3 of it but if I knew. Why is it that I had so many fragiles back then?
In my opinion, artifacts are the single worst thing about genshin impact and if their rng factor gets reduced (which it won't) it would make the game much more enjoyable in general
finally building my furina so this vid came at the perfect time!! ty jello
Petition to see Jello make the best mint farming route.
I’m at a stage now where most of my main damage dealers have all artifacts at level 20 (though more than a few could use better replacements) and my sub-DSPs and supports have a range of leveled and unleveled, bad, and nonexistent pieces.
Meanwhile I have quite the collection of locked unleveled pieces with “potential” just waiting until I’m done building my characters before I start testing them to see if any of them turn out to be good.
I JUST realized while watching this that instead of taking all the artifact fodder I earn to slowly “finish” leveling all my characters’ pieces I should be rolling some of my pieces-in-waiting and foddering the disappointments for my supports and sub-DPSs that still need the XP which should allow me to kill two birds with one stone. I guess I didn’t think through my build everyone first plan to the end point where I end up with a bunch of partially-leveled pieces that aren’t very good with no one to feed them to.
It’s also funny how the artifact RNG completely sublimates all gambling urges. Instead of being tempted to pull on a banner I’m being tempted to use fragile resin for another three artifact runs that will get me another set to feed into the strongbox.
@@sfoanna Same, gambling with artifacts is more fun
I disagree with #7 in your artifact bible. You don't need to say not to be afraid to spend teapot currency on arti xp. It should be the main thing you get. If you are trying to get as strong teams as possible long term, you should never fodder lvl 0 5 star artis. Use them all at the strongbox. If you are trying to get to where you can 36 star as early as possible and are less concerned with getting stronger after that, there might be times when it makes sense to fodder lvl 0 5 star artis. But it shouldn't be the normal way you use them.
I've been waiting for this video since the community post.
Thank you for all the help as a new player your guides have helped an unbelievable amount.
2 months of all my resin on Deepwood for my new Nahida. Literally only 2 x EM sands for EM drops and both had garbage sub-stats. So unfun to not have some way to guarantee a basic build like Honkai's self-modeling resin. Or at least put every set into the strongbox system ffs. I don't mind the artifact grind, but not having some gradual way to guarantee a set over time is pretty disheartening.
My personal rule is never use a 5 star artifact as EXP fodder unless it's 16+
Every 5 star you feed, is 1/3 of a potential god piece.
Artifact EXP is free, 5*artifacts cost resin.
Artifacts are not even hard to obtain by beginning players, but also people who played from the start. and it's also one of the factors that i don`t recement late starters to even start playing the game. i changed my mind during 3.0., except form archons. i now pull for characters where i get the good artifact rolls for first. for example. the maruche hunter/golden troupe domain. i got good artifact set out of them so it was justified too wish and build for characters like furina, charlotte, i lost my 50/50 on neuvelette but i have his weapon and a good artifact set so for me it`s now even justified to spend money to get them because preparation is already done,. but when navia launched and i did her artifact domain., i didn't receive a good set. so no I'm not wishing for her. let hoyo first give me a good reason to get the characters because i don`t want to get a headache after i pay for characters just to know they are not going to perform good because i get def/hp rolls on characters that need att/crit. its reverse psychology and for my wallet it works. because i have a group of characters that i now have regret pulling i wish they were better. because i have got all character and standard banner characters before 3.0. but didn't 36 star the abyss because i was slapping artifacts on them that weren't good enough. even though i have most characters c2. after 3.0 i focused less on getting and building characters and getting the right artifact stats for them and skipping a lot of characters so i have finally the resin to spend on doing A TON of domains, and now i finally have some decent sets with good rolls for those characters. so i`ve skipped a lot of characters after 3.0 but i gor better characters for them in return and ive spend arounbd 4k before 3.0 and "only" 600 after untill now 4.4 and i`ve got a lot better characters now then with those 4k i`ve spend. so the bottom line is that the RNG on the artifact is preventing me to spend on this game, if the RNG wasn't on the artifacts or grindning artifacts didn't require resin, ive would have spend a lot more
Just a reminder that the overhype of crit is based on the meta of atk being buffed with Bennet and/or Noblesse. It's much easier to get your baseline ER, EM, elemental goblet, and a high main stat than a crazy high crit value. Unless you're skyrocketing over 2500 atk, it's only about 2% worse while being outrageously easier to farm. It can even be better than crit in HP or EM teams.
ER is super super important! I know we are all super fascinated with 45+ CV artifacts, BUT those impressive stats are useless if you have low atk and poor ER.
It’s good to have a nice balance, that allows you to burst often enough, and still give you enough atk to do decent damage.
Talents is also key aswell! Atleast getting to level 9 is good for you,and atleast having a small understanding of your teams.
Using the right characters rotations helps a lot too!
As someone with 19 top 1% characters without any resin refresh, I'd say this video is pretty accurate
doesn’t sound realistic, drop the uid
@@bigcheese3520 could be top 1% on the likes of Alloy and Amber
He could also be swapping around artifacts which is pretty ressin efficient i personally hate it bc its anoying to swap around
He’s definitely swapping around artifacts. I highly doubt he has 75 30+ CV artifacts for all 19 characters. Those goblets and circlets getting passed around like a sex worker lol 😂
@@GoonzRUs712 💀
I'd like to see arti routes n if worth please
Make an artifact farming route for the new LIYUE region please.
No one has made a Chenyu Vale Artifact route yet.
new players ha ha... i have been playing for 3 years n still have no clue about artifacts good or bad 😅
About 28:20 I do casual overworld artifact routes either in public transit (too laggy for combat) or to reset my brain after Abyss or other event minigames.
It feels like the gain is there but it isn’t big. (Written guides show the math of how much EXP)
It takes about 20 min to farm 100 pieces once you memorise your route.
It's enough to level a 5-star piece from +0 to +16, or from +16 to +20, or some 5 pieces from +0 to +4.
Finished my daily fodder run while watching, 15 mins well spent. Need to refill the store after updating Mike's build now that she's C2 so I'll be ready for Clorinde 😊
So my Furina has 205 Cv her stats are 71/249 crit with 160 Er and 40k Hp should i stop farming more?
These stats on Furina are phenomenal I’d stop honestly
Great guide! I would love more content for the part "Pick two teams and build them first". I struggled a lot finding teams that don't get countered every second abyss. Nilou is often at a huge disadvantage, Raiden just always works since her teams usually feature 3-4 elements, Neuvilette rarely works on one side but still excels in the other side. - I would love if someone would actually evaluate teams and count the number of recent abyss floor 12 where the team worked.
FANTASTIC VIDEO!! Tysm for this one, it is just perfect, and your 18 pts bible just recaps everything perfectly in a nutshell!!! You should really consider a teaching career, honestly.
My balance for when artifacts is good enough is: The character can clear abyss 12 in a rotation that don’t favor said character.
This is my “go to” when i farm for a character.
In regards to artifact farming routes, I do one that takes about 5-10 minutes and it's pretty chill once I got it memorised. It's not the biggest amount of xp (not enough to level a piece to +20), but since you can go a while without getting good pieces, if you keep farming the route daily then that effort will show when you finally do get a good piece and decide to level it.
Bro make a reaction video on all character demos, it will be fun!
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that the transient resin averages out to give more artifact exp per coin. 1200 coins nets you three domain runs, which averages to 43,545 artifact exp while the same number of coins put toward (3.333 purple) potions is 33,333 artifact exp. However, you earn about 2k coins per week so it might be worth taking the transient and then a couple of the exp potions to make up the 2k balance.
My understanding is that if you were to fodder your 5 star artifact when counting the resin the bottles give you the bottles are better value. But the fact that artifact domains can actually give a 5 star artifact, they bottles are technically only better value than other resin items if you feed your artifacts.
The true answer is that you should get whatever resin items you are lacking. There’s nothing more optimal than that.
I've been a subscriber since you're like 2k sub, it makes me happy to see your Genshin figure collection grow.
I already commented my interest in the artifact farming route video, but I just got through to the end of the video and I gotta say you did a great job summarizing all the important points AND giving us examples of how to do this. You have really matured into a solid understanding of Genshin's systems and many players benefit from watching you. Thank you!!
Farming artifacts around the overworld is completely useless because they are such low stars! They should drop more 4 stars in the overworld in the harder areas.
It’s just for EXP
@@JelloImpactI am talking about EXP, 1 and 2 star artifacts give you almost no EXP.
@@THESocialJusticeWarrior small exp adds up, it's one free lvl 20 every 3 days.
@@Shiwayarihow much time per day?
@@THESocialJusticeWarrior17 minutes
I have great characters but I hate artifact farming, any help for those who can’t stand farming endlessly?
Just mix it up. Instead of focusing on character or domain, hop between a few. It'll take longer before you have one strong character, but it's a game, so having fun matters more. Also, you can change how you run the domain as well... instead of always taking the same team, play different ones. And maybe do it in co-op. Just little things to add variety.
Ideally, early on, swap between the various domains with a good 2 piece artifact set bonuses, as you can then run those 2 piece pairings on characters.
Do people actually farm art routes every day or am i the odd one out ?
I used to do it every day, the xp boost is very useful (lvl 0-12 daily). It's pretty chill, zooming around with sound of artifacts popping out of crates is really relaxing.
It takes about 10-30 minutes depending on loadscreen and if you have overworld speedy units like Yelan, Sayu, Wanderer, Xianyun, etc.
Stopped around the debut of Star Rail because upkeep on both games at once was getting too much, plus after 3 years my builds are good enough to not need the boost.
I have noticed that my max artifacts are constantly overflowing now though, since I don't have the extra daily xp to test multiple pieces and chain fodder them anymore.
wanna see the video pls
I'm finally trying to get into the endgame and I'm trying to get good sets for my Nilou and Shogun teams, so I'd love a farming route video. I'm struggling so hard with arftifact exp. I subbed a while back, great vids. 😊
it would be great to see a video from you for artifact routes
one question:
my furina has, 89:233 crit ratio is this normal ?
i am not whale , i am f2p... and i think its quite high, when i told people my nahida have 1493em they say lower the em because it will affect the gameplay.
so should i lower the crit ratio too?!!!
Nope that’s a fantastic crit ratio! Unlike EM it’s very hard to have too much crit
@@JelloImpact ok, thanks for help, I appreciate a lot 😊
With 70 crit rate and 140+ crit damage you'll be hitting 100% of the time, but exactly at 70-140 it's like 98℅ of the time.
Thanks for your videos. I wish if would have learned sooner about not taking 5 star artifacts to 20 if they're not "good enough". Your content has helped me so much the last two months as someone who had only played three months total before starting to play for real around Christmas. I've been able to work on catching up my characters, builds and even account in a much more optimized and intelligent way than I ever would have if I tried to figure out everything on my own through trial and error.
Would enjoy an artifact route video! I still do it at AR60. I feel like leveling using 1-star artifacts is too expensive - I've been trashing 1-star artifacts for Mora and using the 2-4 stars for fodder instead.
I like this video coz my almost 230 CV furina has basically ruined my artifact standards
Thanks for the video, it's very detailed and informative. I realized that I may have foddered good goblets now... oh well :') I also love the artifact bible, really good summary for a complex topic.
I recently just started doing artifact farming routes, but I'd still like to see your opinion of it. You often make a lot points that I've missed. Currently, I'm of the mind that it's good if you want something to do when you're out of resin and you still want to or have time to play.
Personally i value Substats in general like this:
Crit DMG > Crit Rate > ER > EM > HP% > AT% > Garbage
So when do I say an artifact is good?
1: Main stat is what i want.
2: It has 3+ stats above "Garbage"
3: (optional) it starts out with 4 stats (reduces RNG)
This is PERFECT for getting floor 11 of the abyss.
You will need to be much pickyer for the 36 stars... but this is a nice BASELINE regardless of artifact for GOOD results.
Note:
Now i value HP% this much because there are a LOT of characters that scale with HP, almost any Hydro has some sort of HP scaling. And not getting one shotted is nice. And i find that HP is more valueable than DEF in terms of survivability. So unless i specifically am building DEF, thats the worst stat i can see.
My baseline is 75% crit rate. If you’re a statistician I forget what it’s called but there’s is actually a higher chance based on the way things roll that actually makes 75% a higher crit rate than what it shows and something like 25% is lower than it shows, I forget though.
For Crit dmg it’s just as high as I can get it without sacrificing crit rate.
For ER I only take into account cost vs teams. Arleccino for example is my new favorite and doesn’t need much ER since she’s always paired with a pyro character and doesn’t depend on her burst having constant uptime AND it’s not super high cost.
For all other stats it’s just taking what I can get but I generally move into farming previous artifact sets that I can’t get strongbox. The only one I really farmed that much for was my Yae Miko, mine is only C1 so I actually don’t need to do Golden since her dmg is pretty 60/40 for skill/burst
11:00 well i think i'll end up doing a video myself on this, but to me it's as follows: 60-70 C.Rate is enough no matter the character. There are exceptions. However, Crit dmg, should be as much as possible, after that, atk/hp% or EM (for Dendro) then ER. Ignore the 1:2 rate when it can be 1:4.
New player? Try this: focus on main stat only, ignore substats.
You will save A TON of farming time and resources.
You will shield yourself against the frustration of Artifact RNG.
You'll feel happy when getting good substats, but not crappy when you don't.
You'll be able to have more sets ready for more characters faster.
You will clear all difficult content regardless.
Been farming artifact investigate points every single day. Very quickly max level artifacts to lvl 20.
However it is still too expensive - takes too many fodder artifacts _and mora_ to test out all the KIV artifacts that could potentially yield marvelous results. The typical case unfortunately is new artifacts would just be marginally better and worse in other areas (e.g. lose ER or ATK).
I have mine at 40 crit 80 critical with the artifacts I have never really started farming for artifacts AR 45 banked over 270000 exp maxed out weopans and talents at level 8
Do the video
Finding the perfect artifact is like maxing character talents...
You could spend an endless amount of time in an unforgiving domain that spits DEF pieces in your face OR you can stop being addicted to the gatcha within the gatcha and make your character a king/queen. Do it. Do it now. I know you all neglect your talents and hoard your crowns!!
I would like if we could upgrade 4* artifacts to 5* and they'd get a free extra stat to roll. So like if you get a 4* circlet with your main stat, and it has double crit and ER, you might wanna keep that, and upgrade it to 5* where it gets a free 4th stat and then you can roll it up from 1-20. I think it would make artifact farming so much nicer if I could also look at 4* again.
Interesting vid! Yes, about the levels of characters, I level them to lv 71, for those that I hardly or will even use. Max to those I would use. Why lv 71? To get the final free wish at lv 70, and to remind myself final wish is gotten so 71 as a marker.
Papa jello back with another banger!
For my flower and plume I aim for 40+CV, for my sands and goblet 30+CV and for circlet I beg for hoyo to stop fucking me.
When ya have multiple 4 line double crit artifacts not being used. All +35cv. If ya have multiple +40 lol you wild.
Bruhhhh getting a crit damage circlet with no good substats. How heartbreaking lol
Time to grind more artifacts and get Def% roll again 😂
i still dont know and i need help tbh :( idk how get anything more then purples rn and i cant even get good stats i have some blizzard peaces i am not ar 40 yet but i am ar 38 so was a lil worried about it
As an Ar 46 player I still get 5 star artifacts rarely from domains, why do people say guaranteed?
43:44 Uhmm don't do that, 5* trash is all for re-rolling. 3* and 4* and already leveled +4s and poorly rolled +20s for fodder.
WHY IS EVERYONE ROLLING HOT DENDRO GOBLETS AND MINE'S ARE LIKE 19 CRIT VALUE??? Give me some luck PLEASE!
Anyone can get the best artifacts they want with a credit card...most CCs do it. However, what is the point? Genshin is clearable with just main stats and sets on any synergy team.
I thought this was about secrets on how to upgrade your artifacts or like somewhat how to get good RNG... oh well did not finished the whole vid.
STILL farming navias artifacts its the true pain domain literally 3 of her artifacts are dog shes being carried by her feather and off piece
when you put a crit value weapon onto your character to see the stats go up: 😈😈😈😈
when you put all your best artifacts onto one character ignoring the sets just to see stats go up: 😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈
haha love the video dont do what i mentioned above ;)
"Take a deep breath, relax, you're doing fine" caught me off guard bro 😭
My problem is my HORRIBLE BAD LUCK with upgrading
I get what you’re saying bro. At first you just need to get the artifact sets you need and start off with low standards and just try to build a little cv with other useful stats for the character. Once you start getting better pieces then you can set your standards higher and focus on double liner crits and the highest quality artifacts.
Jello you told me this when you still had just like 2k subs… we have like the same exact raiden… still lol.
Game is too easy, couldn't care less about good of bad artifacts, i can clear abyss with the same 8 characters
ez, when it doesn't roll on defense and or hp... I swear, so many artifacts that could've been...
Playing Raiden on Em till she delivers better than hyperbloom or till i get Kuki
Literally got rid of all my % artifacts that wasnt em, er, or elemental % that didnt have a crit stat.
If an artifact has crit. Just lock it, who knows when it'll come in handy.
Are there any characters that having healing bonus on a helm is useful?
60/120 is breaking point for crit bing better than attack under assumption that you can freely choose between stats. Not very realistic assumption so not sure about practical value of this.
The problem is you have to set a benchmark somewhere. Of course it’s arbitrary and you have to work with what you have, but it’s nice to have a little something in mind to work towards for most people as opposed to everything being a nebulous “it depends”
Depends on other factors. Lets say you play for 2+ years, have 9/10 understanding of game concepts, 8/10 mechanical skill and a tight roster of liked characters. Then you can get away with smth around 45/90. However a casual console/mobile player who is bad at math might need 70/150 and some 5* weapons/cons to compensate.
From some anecdotal evidence of mine id say that 60/120 is good benchmark for an average Joe who is dedicated enough to watch the guide.
There buffs given by your other characters play a huge part too. Bennett giving such a huge buff to atk means that for the teams that use him atk reaches those diminishing returns much faster than crit does for example
39:24 Thats the saddest Neuvillete ive seen. No wonder its raining in Fontaine today D: