I buy a 2year old phone used from a dealer with warranty every 3-4 years or so. Still going strong on OnePlus 8 Pro- does the job, and if it gets stolen or breaks, not much lost
I still have OnePlus 8 pro aswell lol, it was such a good phone. Too bad it's all cracked and barely useable. If it was fully useable I would have still been using it till today
This is why I caved in with China phones like Vivo and Oppo (but not Huawei for the same marketing reasons) thanks to their price to performance ratio. In my broke country Philippines, An S24 Ultra would cost me 5 months' worth of average paycheck as an Accountant while giving me the same features from the S23U with a new processor and AI gimmicks, While Vivo's X100s would only cost me 1 month paycheck while giving me like better features than the S24U with a lesser cost. Yeah, I would get a China ROM over the Global, but the China ROM made google optional rather than mandatory, hence giving me more freedom. The China spyware barely concern me than the NTC sending me spam messages with useless facts.
Truth be told, there is NO spyware on China phones. I work in Software Firmware dev at Android and have checked them. No spyware. You should be more concerned about US spyware
Phones using the same crappy sensor and artificially increasing the size of a photo from 2 MPX to 200 MPX is serving the purpose of killing two birds with 1 stone: 1.- They make average consumers who know nothing about photography think that the only thing they should care is the size of the image and not the quality and size of the sensor which is the only thing that matters. 2.- By making that crappy 2 MPX sensor artificially resize every photo into 12 MPX, 50MPX, 100MPX or even 200 MPX, they make sure that your storage runs out immediately after taking a couple of pictures. And now that they've taken away the external micro SD storage, they force you to either buy the most expensive model with the most storage or buy their cloud service for you to store those crappy absurdly heavy images. They're making us run out of storage by artificially resizing all photos to unnecessarily big sizes because they've successfully fooled the average consumer into thinking that the most Megapixels, the best a photo will look. That way they save money without needing to increase the size of sensors, keep reusing old sensors, blame bad quality on "cheaper models" by keeping the editing software for the most expensive ones, force you to buy the most expensive phones with the most storage, force you to buy theyr cloud service and also they've been forcing us to use their expensive Bluetooth headphones by removing the headphone jack. We already got the best phones some years ago. Now we're gonna start getting crappy phones behind constant pay wall to unlock anything
they are not using the same crappy sensor, thats just straight up wrong. they are adding more megapixels to new sensors, but it doesnt make a difference because of rapidly diminishing returns and laws of physics. there isnt enough light to go into the sensor to make anything sharp, thats diffraction at play (and thats why many aps-c lenses don't let you turn the aperture lower than f/16). the only phones that upscale low resolution images into absurd sizes are fake chinese ewaste phones that pretend to be flagships from known brands, said flagships do the opposite: they combine adjacent pixels to make 12-24mp images. imo the pixel binning is dubious and the best thing they can do is use the junk (noisy and blurry) data to feed the image processing algorithm (also its a cope for not having a separate telephoto lens)
@@corktail7900 It doesnt make a difference detail wise because spatial multiplexing in multi-bayer CIS imaging + demosaic is dreadful for anything other than HDR. Multi-bayer sensors weren't built for more detail. They're pretty much all 12-12.5MP sensors natively. They can just market it as higher due to "technically" being correct (subpixels). If they'd use a standard 24, 41 or whatever the detail gain would be very noticable. (First gen of 108 was a QB, so 27MP, natively, and honestly beats out pretty much everything out there (texture & detail wise) especially in raw.
@@corktail7900 not only the "Chinese ewaste phones" but also phoned that are bought by a huge chunk of the population which can't afford a flagship like the Galaxy A series. For example, my previous Galaxy A14 and A15 were announced to take photos in 50 megapixel resolution and all that, yet the sensor has an actual lower resolution and the camera app just artificially increases the size and weight of the file. Some phones might have a better sensor or a better post-edit software, but they all are indeed inflating the size of the photos (and taking away native tools to resize photos to save storage) so we buy the bigger models, cloud storage and so on
Tbh the technological (in terms of phones) jump between 2022 and now is really small. Like if you got any phone from 2 years ago and it was priced above 400$ its most likely still totally fine to use. Great video btw, Im stunned.... The sound quality, editing and the execution is great!
@Techsnowball My Chinese spyware Redmi note phone from 2022 is still doing absolutely fine. I'm amazed by how smooth it operates and the only big downside is the camera I guess
car companies do the same. look at every 2.0 VAG (volkswagen aldi group) engine. they have at least 3 or 4 different power outputs depending on trim and its all purely limited by the ECU programming. BMW and benz are also guilty of this to a lesser (but still huge) degree)
@@Techsnowball you don't realise how scummy this sounds?? "Oh, i wanted to make Samsung look bad but realized their foldables are actually durable so i just deceptively inserted a clip of another phone snapping while talking about Samsungs Z Fold". Having no journalistic integrity is one of the easiest way to NOT grow a loyal audience gee.
i think apple has done it before, but nowadays its not the same. Phones just get so many new updates that the old processors can't really keep up. Thats why if you get a phone from 5 years with a flagship processor it still keeps up well, but a phone from 2-3 years ago with a low end cpu LAGGS
Crap this reminds me of my Infinix Zero 30. After an update I recieved few weeks ago it's performance becomes worst even the charging speed. Funny enough it times well that I already owned it for a year.
My trusty Samsung Galaxy Note 8 is now 7 years old and I STILL have no incentive to switch to any other daily driver. New phones may be faster, but other than that, they may even be worse than my old brick. I have a headphone jack, they don't. I have the fingerprint sensor in an ergonomically optimal spot, many new phones have it in worse places. And once this phone will finally die or become incompatible with crucial things, I might rather try out a small brand with unique phone features. I am glad, that as a tech nerd, I don't fall for the ever climbing numbers. To this day I am proclaiming, that 4K screens in smartphones are ridiculous. 1080p is perfectly fine and eats less battery. My Note 8 has quad HD resolution, and for most of it's life, I have set it to 1/4 of that and I keep completely forgetting about it, because it makes almost no visual difference. Insanely high charging speeds make no sense, because you are rarely ever in such an urgent position, that it is viable to severely wear down your battery by charging crazy fast. Huge megapixel numbers make no sense, because which normal user would ever have use for such a crazy resolution, and most of it is interpolated anyway. Honestly, I really don't know, what I should aim for, once I can no longer use the Note 8 to full extent. Maybe I'll try out a really crazy phone like the Tank 3. Being an adventurer, it would be really neat to have a battery pack with me all the time and the phone lasting for a week with it. But also, seeing things realistically, it is a lot of weight I always need to carry and which makes the phone not really usable for unusual things, like strapping to the handle bar of the bike for navigation. But I guess, I'll pass this headache on to future-me. Because who knows, how long I can still stick to the Note 8. Maybe it's gonna be good for another 3 years?
Carriers today offer the retail value of most flagship phones allowing you to upgrade for free or on a massive 800 dollar discount. You should never pay full price for a phone when T-Mobile, Samsung, and Verizon all offer 800 trade ins on phones younger than a Series 10 iirc. If not it might be for the 20s but either way if you paid 800 or more for your phone getting that money back and getting a new one is probably the best deal out there.
That's definitely a good deal to trade it in, but for one, the new phone e.g pixel 9 should not cost that much in the first place, it you wait like 4-5 months in drops alot in price, and then if I buy it used it's even cheaper, so if u keep buying ultra phones at half the price and then reselling them every year that's even cheaper l, but I guess more work
I absolutely agree. That's why I love Chinese phones such as Vivo, OnePlus or Honor. Both offer exceptional value for money with a camera actually better then Samsung and iPhone. For example vivo x200 pro bring portrait photography to the next level.
Dude they gave me $800 to trade in my Samsung Galaxy S22 for an iphone 16 pro. I got the iphone 16 pro for basically $200. I was so shocked they took my S22 worth $200 and basically gave me an iphone 16 pro. I'm sure its these types of deals that make it seem like everyone is willing to run out and sdhell out $1100 for the new phone every year.
In the video I didn't say anything about foldables, I just said they exist, I simply put the Huawei foldable snapping for some funny b-roll since the Samsung foldables actually survived the bend test lol.
I don’t have issues with companies doing shady things, they’re all evil in my opinion but I hate when fan boy of each side pretend they’re favorite company is a saint and can do no wrong
3:58 Sony did the same thing until a few years ago, they intentionally disabled the RAW option on their phones, even on the most expensive flagship phones, because they thought that if you can't shoot RAW with their phones, then you probably gonna buy a Sony camera too, the most ridiculous thing about this is that they actually forgot to disable the RAW shooting on one of their low-midrange phones and because of this you couldn't shoot RAW with the most expensive Sony phone, but you could shoot RAW with that cheap crap. 4:21 Those phones are actually shooting 12 megapixel RAW images, so the 108MP and 200MP is very far from reality. You can divide any image into any amount of pixels, but the image quality won't become better.
There are professionals, that probably think they are relatively ethical, that go to work every day with the job of tricking consumers. These kinds of marketing tricks have a real impact on people's lives and the economy.
First time thinking about how marketing works? It's not just phones. The purpose of marketing is to get people to buy things. That's the point. All businesses do it.
Awesome video, but no one needs a high end phone , its a nice option. Phone makers still make budget and mid tier phones, also refurbish phones with warranties.
acsualy Samsung has renamed the Neo lineup to Fan Edition in 2017 before they discontinued it in 2019. phones in the lineup: Galaxy S Plus (2011) CPU: Snapdragon S2 model: GT-I9001. Galaxy S2 Plus (2012) CPU: Broadcom BC28155, model: GT-I9105, GT-I9105P. Galaxy S3 Neo (2013) CPU: Snapdragon 400 model: GT-I9301I. Galaxy S5 Neo (2015) CPU: Exynos 7580 model: SM-G903F, SM-G903M, SM-G903W. Galaxy Note Fan Edition (2017) CPU: Exynos 8890 model: SM-N935F, SM-N935F/DS. Nfe was the last one ever made in the series. but samsung reused the name for high tier phones starting with S20 fe
Biggest gimmicks: -Multiple cameras with small sensors - High number of megapixels I'm looking at you Samsung . Why have 4 cameras when instead you could offer 2 cameras with big sensors ? Like a 24mm and an 85mm. Oh , and by the sensor size of the S24U the most they should have anything in between 12-48 MP.
Like, I don't understand why people just buy the newer model even though their phone is still capable and future-proof. If it's still functional, then there's no reason to upgrade then. That's another issue.
Well for me, i either crack my phone or just see a cool feature like 100w charging and fantasize how cool it would be to have it. But I don't bother fixing my phones because I don't want the exact same thing again, I'd rather just pay a little more than the repair and get something new and exciting.
This video has never been so true, I was like a die hard trying to get a S series Samsung but I stopped and just thought and researched and realized a few of the points mentioned in this wonderful video. Thanks for making this to make it even more clear for me!
Imo, might be Apple was the reason why Samsung having this tactic since you mentioned Note 20 until now (ehem FE). They were focus on refinement rather than ground breaking. Making Samsung boring, their target market is only on higher end market in US. But lacking behind in other regions due to more choices than their A series. Samsung innovation is dead since S10-S20 years
After Samsung galaxy s10 series, samsung wasn't that really innovating anymore. Also buying old or last years flagship it's more worth than buying newer budget phones anyway.
Im basically immune to all of this. Except 1, when buying m2 ipad pro (for professional work - art). Because the next gen uses oled… instantly selling the m2 ipad pro not because i want the m4, but because i dont want to degrade to oled in the future. OLED in a PRO line product. Nah, mate, im out the ecosystem.
What other options are there? Its basically only apple Samsung google and one plus in the states no more htc or Motorola Our options are naturally limited but I am accustom to the note line because I use the S pen feature a lot to take notes so I don’t forget things to write down numbers to write down ideas really quick the is really useful
@Techsnowball Samsung phones pack wayy more features and customization options than Pixel phones such as DeX that's probably why, Pixels are always behind in a lot of the little things and the Tensor chip is literally worse than Exynos 2400 chip but I don't understand how google gets a pass but samsung using exynos is mocked like crazy
really solid vid, with solid points, one thing id recommend is maybe turning down/off the screenshake effect that is present in many scenes, its a bit too distracting
I still use a 2017 S8 that I bought second hand. I hope it runs until 2027/8. TBH, all I notice is a bit of lag when switching apps. But TBH, it's not annoying. Plus, the pleasure of saving € 500 every year unlike those who want the latest stuff is so satisfying.
🗿 i only buy something which has somewhat oke camera like samsung a33 5g. And 5g is a must. Oke and it has to support usb tethering. 😶 And i use a laptop.
i know i could probably get the red magic 9s pro for gaming because s24 ultra is overpriced like apple...but i just like samsung design and plan to buy an open box s24 ultra when it comes down in price. those phone prices drop a lot after 3 years...
Hear me, samsung s series fan edition is launched at extreme high price because after few months they discount and make it look like 50k INR phone is now 35k INR so go grab your samsunggg, especially in india offline market is highly manipulated with these tactics. Also note that A series a55 was launched at 40k for 12gb ram varient while s23 is selling in flipkart with discounts for 40k INR.
i do know that the FE models drop in price alot, but they are released half way through the S series lineup, so those thones are also heavily discounted, and by then they also become very cheap when buying used. Also, a year or two down the line, it still doesn't make sense to buy FE when the S model is probably like 40k
@Techsnowball yeah, In India only the s20 fe was considerable, and then on I think they just make something with fe name so that they could cover that market where people still believe fe is a vfm premium device. Samsung has become a clown company, their buds 2 pro used to look different and was priced good but then with buds 3 pro the design looks more like airpods pro and also price increased too much in india where OnePlus and other Chinese have good tws at cheaper prices.
They all make great "mid-range" phones that are better than anyone needs. But they're smart and they know if they put out "flagship" models for the price of small used cars (it's just a PHONE remember), they can make lots of money from fools who'll pay them. So much BS and phone snobbery. Like you can tell the difference between chips and everyone's doing hardcore gaming 12 hours a day on their phone or something. Get a Galaxy A55. Best phone I've ever owned. Go out in the sunshine. Get a dog.
4:42 I have done the calculations, and the sensor size between the S22 Ultra and S24 Ultra's main cameras are negligible, leading to (shocker) noticably smaller pixels on the 200MP sensor!
theres IS an explanation why they put 200mp, and it kinda make sense. but in the real world it barely makes a difference and we would just be better off with a larger sensor.
Great video, I am for one, one of the people that upgrade every year, Went from Xiaomi 10 Pro -> 11 Ultra - 12s Ultra - > 13 Ultra and now currently 14 ultra, the upgrades was most felt with 11 Ultra and 14 Ultra, I can afford it but companies make us feel like every year our top end phone is already outdated.
in short if you are Not using your phone for work that actually makes you Money and only to talk chat and browse the web and watch videos then even the cheapest phones will do trust me i was buying new flagship phones every year up to 2018 i think since then i use a crappy Mate 20 i got to replace my broken Samsung before buying the next Samsung S what ever version but i decided i won't and it been 6 years with that old very stupid locked down phone yet i don't miss any features i don't use the camera other then scanning documents so i don't care how good it is and i definitely don't play games on it and in many ways this old phone is better then the new ones hell the cheap new phones have more features then the flagship phones like SD Cards
Just 1+ released 13 series....it just took the path of apple and samsung...not innovating more came with a polished one .. Losing interest in smartphones 😐
Tbh im using a Huawei P60Pro (with GMS) and I don't feel the urge to change my phone I jumped from my Huawei P30 to this one and i think im gonna do the same in 2 or 3 years for the P90 models lol ,no need to upgrade too early
Thanks for commenting. I noiteced that super slow mo is missing on the s24 fe even tho its on the s20 fe, it also looks like it isnt on the s24 ultra, this is prob to sell on their ai, also on the 200 mp stuff, i think you ment that the pixel size is too small, that makes the image look more like 50mp. Sorry for bad english
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@@Spiffy_SiFF 🙏🙏🙏
Facts! 😂
Never judge an RUclipsr by their number of subscribers.
Quality Content. Subbed. I hope you'll keep the videos authentic even when you get famous.
@@Farhaz303 bless you, what a nice comment
I buy a 2year old phone used from a dealer with warranty every 3-4 years or so. Still going strong on OnePlus 8 Pro- does the job, and if it gets stolen or breaks, not much lost
I still have OnePlus 8 pro aswell lol, it was such a good phone. Too bad it's all cracked and barely useable. If it was fully useable I would have still been using it till today
This is why I caved in with China phones like Vivo and Oppo (but not Huawei for the same marketing reasons) thanks to their price to performance ratio. In my broke country Philippines, An S24 Ultra would cost me 5 months' worth of average paycheck as an Accountant while giving me the same features from the S23U with a new processor and AI gimmicks, While Vivo's X100s would only cost me 1 month paycheck while giving me like better features than the S24U with a lesser cost. Yeah, I would get a China ROM over the Global, but the China ROM made google optional rather than mandatory, hence giving me more freedom.
The China spyware barely concern me than the NTC sending me spam messages with useless facts.
Realme is good too
Truth be told, there is NO spyware on China phones. I work in Software Firmware dev at Android and have checked them. No spyware.
You should be more concerned about US spyware
bro X100S ai is so good
But what about scammy 2 year OS support when samsung offers up to 7 year OS support?
@@marten6578 When I mean same features, I don't include Samsung's gimmicks.
Planned obsolescence and gatekeeping will destroy the world.
No, human stupidity does.
it's already destroying it
Finally a tech channel which aint compromised by the tech companies just yet. I kove finding these gems before they get big
Phones using the same crappy sensor and artificially increasing the size of a photo from 2 MPX to 200 MPX is serving the purpose of killing two birds with 1 stone:
1.- They make average consumers who know nothing about photography think that the only thing they should care is the size of the image and not the quality and size of the sensor which is the only thing that matters.
2.- By making that crappy 2 MPX sensor artificially resize every photo into 12 MPX, 50MPX, 100MPX or even 200 MPX, they make sure that your storage runs out immediately after taking a couple of pictures. And now that they've taken away the external micro SD storage, they force you to either buy the most expensive model with the most storage or buy their cloud service for you to store those crappy absurdly heavy images.
They're making us run out of storage by artificially resizing all photos to unnecessarily big sizes because they've successfully fooled the average consumer into thinking that the most Megapixels, the best a photo will look. That way they save money without needing to increase the size of sensors, keep reusing old sensors, blame bad quality on "cheaper models" by keeping the editing software for the most expensive ones, force you to buy the most expensive phones with the most storage, force you to buy theyr cloud service and also they've been forcing us to use their expensive Bluetooth headphones by removing the headphone jack.
We already got the best phones some years ago. Now we're gonna start getting crappy phones behind constant pay wall to unlock anything
Very good points 👏
they are not using the same crappy sensor, thats just straight up wrong. they are adding more megapixels to new sensors, but it doesnt make a difference because of rapidly diminishing returns and laws of physics. there isnt enough light to go into the sensor to make anything sharp, thats diffraction at play (and thats why many aps-c lenses don't let you turn the aperture lower than f/16). the only phones that upscale low resolution images into absurd sizes are fake chinese ewaste phones that pretend to be flagships from known brands, said flagships do the opposite: they combine adjacent pixels to make 12-24mp images. imo the pixel binning is dubious and the best thing they can do is use the junk (noisy and blurry) data to feed the image processing algorithm (also its a cope for not having a separate telephoto lens)
@@corktail7900
It doesnt make a difference detail wise because spatial multiplexing in multi-bayer CIS imaging + demosaic is dreadful for anything other than HDR. Multi-bayer sensors weren't built for more detail. They're pretty much all 12-12.5MP sensors natively. They can just market it as higher due to "technically" being correct (subpixels).
If they'd use a standard 24, 41 or whatever the detail gain would be very noticable. (First gen of 108 was a QB, so 27MP, natively, and honestly beats out pretty much everything out there (texture & detail wise) especially in raw.
@@corktail7900 not only the "Chinese ewaste phones" but also phoned that are bought by a huge chunk of the population which can't afford a flagship like the Galaxy A series.
For example, my previous Galaxy A14 and A15 were announced to take photos in 50 megapixel resolution and all that, yet the sensor has an actual lower resolution and the camera app just artificially increases the size and weight of the file.
Some phones might have a better sensor or a better post-edit software, but they all are indeed inflating the size of the photos (and taking away native tools to resize photos to save storage) so we buy the bigger models, cloud storage and so on
Tbh the technological (in terms of phones) jump between 2022 and now is really small. Like if you got any phone from 2 years ago and it was priced above 400$ its most likely still totally fine to use. Great video btw, Im stunned.... The sound quality, editing and the execution is great!
thank you
@Techsnowball My Chinese spyware Redmi note phone from 2022 is still doing absolutely fine. I'm amazed by how smooth it operates and the only big downside is the camera I guess
car companies do the same. look at every 2.0 VAG (volkswagen aldi group) engine. they have at least 3 or 4 different power outputs depending on trim and its all purely limited by the ECU programming. BMW and benz are also guilty of this to a lesser (but still huge) degree)
I guess that's why you gotta know your stuff. So easy to trick an average buyer
Home boy knows how to ANALYZE lol! This information is true. Good analysis.
Thank you bro
0:18 why even show this when it is not a Samsung? To get people on your side?
literally says in the video it's not samsung
I really wanted to show a foldable snapping but I realised they survived jerryrigeverything tests
Bro just admit your company isnt god on earth
@@Techsnowball you don't realise how scummy this sounds?? "Oh, i wanted to make Samsung look bad but realized their foldables are actually durable so i just deceptively inserted a clip of another phone snapping while talking about Samsungs Z Fold".
Having no journalistic integrity is one of the easiest way to NOT grow a loyal audience gee.
@@dannywolff4836 gee I even said it's not a Samsung, the video is nothing even to do with foldables
I absolutely hate the fact that Apple doesn't allow ProRaw on the entry level phones.
Even though each entry model has last year's pro chip ...
exactly, iphone 16 is miles ahead of 12 pro
I work on a repair shop and i can tell you all phone don’t have the value you think
Same here blood
Same, a 150 buck phones have a 80 dollar screen lol
Nothing sold is true to their value. Something is worth what people are willing to pay for it. Take diamond for example. You can research about it
1:15 Notch 👺❎ Chin 😝✅
yeah i can't beleive i made that mistake... lol
Good thing I decided to buy the S23 Ultra rather than the S24 Ultra. Even the dealer told me that there's no major difference between them.
Just get a Sony Xperia phone, one phone with all the pro features, and no storage scam because you can have sdcard up to 1tb now.
They purposely making old phones slower is the biggest scam ever
i think apple has done it before, but nowadays its not the same. Phones just get so many new updates that the old processors can't really keep up. Thats why if you get a phone from 5 years with a flagship processor it still keeps up well, but a phone from 2-3 years ago with a low end cpu LAGGS
Crap this reminds me of my Infinix Zero 30. After an update I recieved few weeks ago it's performance becomes worst even the charging speed. Funny enough it times well that I already owned it for a year.
yup, we need to push this one onto everybody's homepage
The best phone for the money is buying last year's flagship because the best tech from 1 year ago is better than the second best tech this year
This is why every phone I ever bought is bought used
same
My trusty Samsung Galaxy Note 8 is now 7 years old and I STILL have no incentive to switch to any other daily driver. New phones may be faster, but other than that, they may even be worse than my old brick. I have a headphone jack, they don't. I have the fingerprint sensor in an ergonomically optimal spot, many new phones have it in worse places. And once this phone will finally die or become incompatible with crucial things, I might rather try out a small brand with unique phone features.
I am glad, that as a tech nerd, I don't fall for the ever climbing numbers. To this day I am proclaiming, that 4K screens in smartphones are ridiculous. 1080p is perfectly fine and eats less battery. My Note 8 has quad HD resolution, and for most of it's life, I have set it to 1/4 of that and I keep completely forgetting about it, because it makes almost no visual difference. Insanely high charging speeds make no sense, because you are rarely ever in such an urgent position, that it is viable to severely wear down your battery by charging crazy fast. Huge megapixel numbers make no sense, because which normal user would ever have use for such a crazy resolution, and most of it is interpolated anyway.
Honestly, I really don't know, what I should aim for, once I can no longer use the Note 8 to full extent. Maybe I'll try out a really crazy phone like the Tank 3. Being an adventurer, it would be really neat to have a battery pack with me all the time and the phone lasting for a week with it. But also, seeing things realistically, it is a lot of weight I always need to carry and which makes the phone not really usable for unusual things, like strapping to the handle bar of the bike for navigation. But I guess, I'll pass this headache on to future-me. Because who knows, how long I can still stick to the Note 8. Maybe it's gonna be good for another 3 years?
Just picked up s21fe for £139 1 years warranty and working perfectly and still supported 👍
Classic medium fries approach from McDonald's
I will just wait for few months and the FE price will be almost half for what it was launched at. And that will be the best time to buy the phone .
Carriers today offer the retail value of most flagship phones allowing you to upgrade for free or on a massive 800 dollar discount. You should never pay full price for a phone when T-Mobile, Samsung, and Verizon all offer 800 trade ins on phones younger than a Series 10 iirc. If not it might be for the 20s but either way if you paid 800 or more for your phone getting that money back and getting a new one is probably the best deal out there.
That's definitely a good deal to trade it in, but for one, the new phone e.g pixel 9 should not cost that much in the first place, it you wait like 4-5 months in drops alot in price, and then if I buy it used it's even cheaper, so if u keep buying ultra phones at half the price and then reselling them every year that's even cheaper l, but I guess more work
Its called the decoy effect .
one of the famous examples is the iphone small pros and plus
I dont feel a sense of urgency, i feel a sence of accomplishment when my 2019 phone still competes with these overpiced pieces of glass.
Bro has less than 1K subscribers but bro uploaded a banger of a video. Nice going bro..
much appreciated
I absolutely agree. That's why I love Chinese phones such as Vivo, OnePlus or Honor. Both offer exceptional value for money with a camera actually better then Samsung and iPhone. For example vivo x200 pro bring portrait photography to the next level.
Hm theyre using the same strategies so you buy theyre ultra phone a few months after you bought their pro models.
You funny. But those phones is absolutely crap
@@serrael-182 Oneplus is one..phone. Buy it, be happy :)
Dude they gave me $800 to trade in my Samsung Galaxy S22 for an iphone 16 pro. I got the iphone 16 pro for basically $200. I was so shocked they took my S22 worth $200 and basically gave me an iphone 16 pro. I'm sure its these types of deals that make it seem like everyone is willing to run out and sdhell out $1100 for the new phone every year.
5:42 I've been say this for years. Its a phycological trick all businesses do
Why talk of Z fold phones and then show a Huawei Maxe XT phones. Z Fold phones are reliable. I am feeling you're biased because of that.
In the video I didn't say anything about foldables, I just said they exist, I simply put the Huawei foldable snapping for some funny b-roll since the Samsung foldables actually survived the bend test lol.
I don’t have issues with companies doing shady things, they’re all evil in my opinion but I hate when fan boy of each side pretend they’re favorite company is a saint and can do no wrong
whos being a fanboy ?
@ talking about the commentators saying “Apple is better or Android is better” not about your video
@@samuelleblanc4331 yeah, most companies are guilty of alot of things
3:58 Sony did the same thing until a few years ago, they intentionally disabled the RAW option on their phones, even on the most expensive flagship phones, because they thought that if you can't shoot RAW with their phones, then you probably gonna buy a Sony camera too, the most ridiculous thing about this is that they actually forgot to disable the RAW shooting on one of their low-midrange phones and because of this you couldn't shoot RAW with the most expensive Sony phone, but you could shoot RAW with that cheap crap.
4:21 Those phones are actually shooting 12 megapixel RAW images, so the 108MP and 200MP is very far from reality. You can divide any image into any amount of pixels, but the image quality won't become better.
So very true. Still rocking an S21 ultra and an iPhone 11. They function so well still. It's not like the days of old where phones were truly shite
Exactly. I bought my s20fe rather than A52 or A72. I agree that this FE is a really good phone. But the recent FEs are worse.
They need to make unlocked bootloader mandatory
2:10 Can't believe there are people that have money to just go "Oh let me buy the ultra instead".
Who do you think Ultras are sold to?
In terms of trading deals...competitors will literally take off half of the price of their phones if you trade in a competitors phone....
There are professionals, that probably think they are relatively ethical, that go to work every day with the job of tricking consumers. These kinds of marketing tricks have a real impact on people's lives and the economy.
Anything for the money these days
First time thinking about how marketing works? It's not just phones. The purpose of marketing is to get people to buy things. That's the point. All businesses do it.
You just earned yourself a new sub! When you get popular and at the same level of famous youtubers, please remain the same and authentic.
Awesome video, but no one needs a high end phone , its a nice option. Phone makers still make budget and mid tier phones, also refurbish phones with warranties.
Fomo is weak these days because new phones have not much to offer...a phone from 5-6 years ago is STILL perfectly usable today
acsualy Samsung has renamed the Neo lineup to Fan Edition in 2017 before they discontinued it in 2019.
phones in the lineup:
Galaxy S Plus (2011)
CPU: Snapdragon S2
model: GT-I9001.
Galaxy S2 Plus (2012)
CPU: Broadcom BC28155,
model: GT-I9105, GT-I9105P.
Galaxy S3 Neo (2013)
CPU: Snapdragon 400
model: GT-I9301I.
Galaxy S5 Neo (2015)
CPU: Exynos 7580
model: SM-G903F, SM-G903M, SM-G903W.
Galaxy Note Fan Edition (2017)
CPU: Exynos 8890
model: SM-N935F, SM-N935F/DS.
Nfe was the last one ever made in the series. but samsung reused the name for high tier phones starting with S20 fe
ZTE Axon A41 Ultra 220$ Snapdragon 8 Gen 1, 256gb storage, 144 Hz OLED, great camera and build!
been using pixel 6a for 2 years which i bought at offers time.
i never feel to upgrade until I watch new videos of phone
I only upgraded my 6a because I cracked it lol, and if I didn't crack it, I would probably still use it for another year till 2025
Biggest gimmicks:
-Multiple cameras with small sensors
- High number of megapixels
I'm looking at you Samsung .
Why have 4 cameras when instead you could offer 2 cameras with big sensors ? Like a 24mm and an 85mm.
Oh , and by the sensor size of the S24U the most they should have anything in between 12-48 MP.
The improvements are there, but is not as big as it used to be
I never forgot about Samsung note 7 exploding and the meme of the fan edition that followed was just hilarious
The last sentence in this video is 💯 and feels so damn good to do but only if we're staying within our financial means.
No, I don't feel that I need to buy anything. There are sufficient phones at 200-300 range that do all that a phone should do while lasting 2 days.
I will keep my phone for more than 6 years thank you! Had a Note 3 4g fo 10 years i will not upgrade until i see a huge difference.
Like, I don't understand why people just buy the newer model even though their phone is still capable and future-proof. If it's still functional, then there's no reason to upgrade then. That's another issue.
Well for me, i either crack my phone or just see a cool feature like 100w charging and fantasize how cool it would be to have it. But I don't bother fixing my phones because I don't want the exact same thing again, I'd rather just pay a little more than the repair and get something new and exciting.
smartphones are over-rated but i still think if you find a used phone it could be a good deal
This video has never been so true, I was like a die hard trying to get a S series Samsung but I stopped and just thought and researched and realized a few of the points mentioned in this wonderful video. Thanks for making this to make it even more clear for me!
🙏🙏
Imo, might be Apple was the reason why Samsung having this tactic since you mentioned Note 20 until now (ehem FE).
They were focus on refinement rather than ground breaking. Making Samsung boring, their target market is only on higher end market in US. But lacking behind in other regions due to more choices than their A series. Samsung innovation is dead since S10-S20 years
1:15 notch????? You mean a BEZEL
Yep I messed that up
After Samsung galaxy s10 series, samsung wasn't that really innovating anymore.
Also buying old or last years flagship it's more worth than buying newer budget phones anyway.
Yep, just gotta ignore the fear of missing out
What I want to go for, but inflation in my country is crazy.
Im basically immune to all of this.
Except 1, when buying m2 ipad pro (for professional work - art). Because the next gen uses oled… instantly selling the m2 ipad pro not because i want the m4, but because i dont want to degrade to oled in the future. OLED in a PRO line product. Nah, mate, im out the ecosystem.
Wait so you're NOT buying the M4? What are buying then
What other options are there? Its basically only apple Samsung google and one plus in the states no more htc or Motorola Our options are naturally limited but I am accustom to the note line because I use the S pen feature a lot to take notes so I don’t forget things to write down numbers to write down ideas really quick the is really useful
I know that the S24 FE was not the best deal of all time, since the a55 is almost the same.
But I wanted to have dex and 7 years of updates.
Fair enough. I'm just curious, why not go for a pixel 8?
@Techsnowball Samsung phones pack wayy more features and customization options than Pixel phones such as DeX that's probably why, Pixels are always behind in a lot of the little things and the Tensor chip is literally worse than Exynos 2400 chip but I don't understand how google gets a pass but samsung using exynos is mocked like crazy
@@nafeeahnaf6296 Tensor chips are literally just Exynos chips with a different name and specs, both made by Samsung in the same factory
Gotta love it when the algorithm treats me with exceptionally good content like this after a long week. Amazing work. Subbed!
thank you
really solid vid, with solid points, one thing id recommend is maybe turning down/off the screenshake effect that is present in many scenes, its a bit too distracting
Thank you 👍 is it that hand-held effect when I zoom in to text and stuff? I'll definitely tone that down thanks for that.
Understood alot about the urgency .. Thank you ..
Quality content. Subscribed, liked and shared. Keep it up bro. Love you.
Much appreciated 😊
Any sort of Marketing is designed to scam u not just smartphones
I upgraded from redmi note 10 pro to galaxy s23 FE. I think im shopping pretty smart.
That's a pretty big upgrade
I still use a 2017 S8 that I bought second hand. I hope it runs until 2027/8. TBH, all I notice is a bit of lag when switching apps. But TBH, it's not annoying. Plus, the pleasure of saving € 500 every year unlike those who want the latest stuff is so satisfying.
It's good that youre happy with what you have
the easiest way to not get scammed is to make your software u can throw anything at the device u got
Me buying a chinese phone that gave me the portable ps2 of my dreams....
I was thinking of upgrading, not anymore. My S21 fe still running as new
Mainly skipping apple but everyone is an apple fan boi now 😂
I got the iPhone 16 pro max after watching the apple event and what a load of shite!
@@wezking3000 lol, they make it sound like such an upgrade don't they
5:08 I felt that😂
Great job on the video man! And yes very true!
Thank you 🙏🙏
🗿 i only buy something which has somewhat oke camera like samsung a33 5g. And 5g is a must. Oke and it has to support usb tethering. 😶 And i use a laptop.
youtube better be paying you ma boy
Not monetized yet lol
i know i could probably get the red magic 9s pro for gaming because s24 ultra is overpriced like apple...but i just like samsung design and plan to buy an open box s24 ultra when it comes down in price.
those phone prices drop a lot after 3 years...
Check price drops of s23 fe, it was 50 percent drop in 5 months
samsung using 8bit display in 2024 is crazy
Hear me, samsung s series fan edition is launched at extreme high price because after few months they discount and make it look like 50k INR phone is now 35k INR so go grab your samsunggg, especially in india offline market is highly manipulated with these tactics. Also note that A series a55 was launched at 40k for 12gb ram varient while s23 is selling in flipkart with discounts for 40k INR.
i do know that the FE models drop in price alot, but they are released half way through the S series lineup, so those thones are also heavily discounted, and by then they also become very cheap when buying used. Also, a year or two down the line, it still doesn't make sense to buy FE when the S model is probably like 40k
@Techsnowball yeah, In India only the s20 fe was considerable, and then on I think they just make something with fe name so that they could cover that market where people still believe fe is a vfm premium device. Samsung has become a clown company, their buds 2 pro used to look different and was priced good but then with buds 3 pro the design looks more like airpods pro and also price increased too much in india where OnePlus and other Chinese have good tws at cheaper prices.
They all make great "mid-range" phones that are better than anyone needs. But they're smart and they know if they put out "flagship" models for the price of small used cars (it's just a PHONE remember), they can make lots of money from fools who'll pay them. So much BS and phone snobbery. Like you can tell the difference between chips and everyone's doing hardcore gaming 12 hours a day on their phone or something. Get a Galaxy A55. Best phone I've ever owned. Go out in the sunshine. Get a dog.
4:42 I have done the calculations, and the sensor size between the S22 Ultra and S24 Ultra's main cameras are negligible, leading to (shocker) noticably smaller pixels on the 200MP sensor!
theres IS an explanation why they put 200mp, and it kinda make sense. but in the real world it barely makes a difference and we would just be better off with a larger sensor.
I was telling that flagships are not that good value phones because now midrange and budget looks good now in cam ui update cpu
Great video, I am for one, one of the people that upgrade every year, Went from Xiaomi 10 Pro -> 11 Ultra - 12s Ultra - > 13 Ultra and now currently 14 ultra, the upgrades was most felt with 11 Ultra and 14 Ultra, I can afford it but companies make us feel like every year our top end phone is already outdated.
if you can afford it then why not
That's nice, but be honest.. have the speakers been a downgrade compared to the 10 Pro? xdd
@@notlahaan yes, the 10 pro speakers was the best everything else that came after it is a downgrade
in short if you are Not using your phone for work that actually makes you Money and only to talk chat and browse the web and watch videos then even the cheapest phones will do trust me i was buying new flagship phones every year up to 2018 i think since then i use a crappy Mate 20 i got to replace my broken Samsung before buying the next Samsung S what ever version but i decided i won't and it been 6 years with that old very stupid locked down phone yet i don't miss any features i don't use the camera other then scanning documents so i don't care how good it is and i definitely don't play games on it and in many ways this old phone is better then the new ones hell the cheap new phones have more features then the flagship phones like SD Cards
i feel like ever company in the world do it now especially in the capitalist usa...
Whenever I upgrade my phone, I look at will this benefit what I use my phone for
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Just 1+ released 13 series....it just took the path of apple and samsung...not innovating more came with a polished one ..
Losing interest in smartphones 😐
ya no shit btw it's not just phones it's literally with everything especially food
Tbh im using a Huawei P60Pro (with GMS) and I don't feel the urge to change my phone
I jumped from my Huawei P30 to this one and i think im gonna do the same in 2 or 3 years for the P90 models lol ,no need to upgrade too early
no sht Sherlock. great content tho, but unfortunately people in need for that info don't get it.
You need to try a spell checker.
i will
Bottom bezel is called chin, not notch
@@viktorbaresic4180 omg Ur right
I have the s24 fe and plan to keep it for 7 years
then you bought the perfect phone for you
Thanks for commenting. I noiteced that super slow mo is missing on the s24 fe even tho its on the s20 fe, it also looks like it isnt on the s24 ultra, this is prob to sell on their ai, also on the 200 mp stuff, i think you ment that the pixel size is too small, that makes the image look more like 50mp. Sorry for bad english
@@BostanMaxim 200mp is complicated because it all gets pixel pinned to 50mp or 12mp anyway. We would benefit more if we just had bigger sensors.
Yo man, id like to get in contact, think i might give u a few good video ideas tbh and ig some cool facts
You can msg me on Instagram - snowballoskar (red picture)
rich gets richer and poor get poorer
sometimes the more you buy the more you save.
I have the Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra!