Reef Tank Ozone - Crystal Clear Water in The Marine Aquarium using a ozone generator
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
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Ozone is an amazing advanced way to take your aquarium to the next level. Ozone has many benefits for your marine aquarium including providing crystal clear water, reducing smells, breaking down coral toxins, breaking down organics and many possible advantages such as improved skimming and a possible PH boost. Now these benefits can come at a cost. Ozone "can" break down your skimmers or reactor plastics if its not rated for ozone. Ozone in large quantities can be dangerous to your tank inhabitants and can be unhealthy for you!
If you are going to use ozone use cation and do so after properly educating your self. today video barely starches the surface into my journey of ozone. If you do plan on implementing a similar system do your research and remember Less is more!
I plan on doing a more in depth video on ozone once i can conduct some more test and verify some of my theory's! stay tuned :)
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I've used ozone on an older skimmer with great results. My generator puts out 25 mg/hr so I reduce it by half. Now I have a brand new skimmer and went without the ozone for 3 days as it broke in. The water started getting yellow by the end of day 2. Today (day 3)I connected the O3 to the venturi intake (at 15 mg) and let it run for 12 hours. The difference is amazing. Water clarity is remarkable.
2 questions
1) how long should I run it for each day?
2) can O3 cause damage to the venturi/skimmer plastic?
Great video and beautiful aquarium. Thanks.
Nice caricatures of you and Wife on the back I believe on the 2:48 count
Very interesting video like someone said before it takes a lot of your time and effort to do this videos to teach us , and am sure we all appreciate your time and effort so is not in vane so keep doing it please .
Happy to help! thanks for letting me know you appreciate it! these are the type of comments that fuel me to do it! I appreciate your support!!!
Dev, really cool video. Quick question, is ur prob setup before or after your protein skimmer?
the ORP probe is in the same chamber as the skimmer
Bell rung! Your videos are of great quality and content.
Your Amazing Wil Santiago Reefing! Thanks so much!
Very intersting results. I'm curious to know how your ORP develops over time. I've thought about adding ozone to my system as well but haven't hit the trigger yet.
Do you have a video with your PAR readings or will you do one updated with the ozone running?
I actually took one.. but for some reason it didnt make it into the video :| there was a 20-40 par increase (pretty substantial) after running it for a few hours. If you do try it start super low! I have been turning mine down a bit more each night :)
I've been waiting for this vid...great results now drop the Amazon link for the generator
The one i got has an european plug, I'm hunting for something thats good (and not over kill) with a US plug.. I dont want to link to one thats to high of an output for safety purposes!
Great video Devin . What brand was that ozone ?
Told you it works well. It will work more efficiently with a drier installed at the pump input.
+Ellery Wong I think a quick DIY silaca gel one May be in order :)
Hi Daven great video as usual....i noticed you are using Coral box skimmer. Can you tell me which model is it and how has it been performing? Any issues or anything you would have liked different in it? I m about to buy a skimmer and have narrowed down to either Coral box Cloud 9 or Bubble Magus Curve 9......thanks buddy...
The skimmer is a could 9. A little overkill for my tank but it has been solid and issue free. I could prob do a good review video on it if you want
That's cool! Is it necessary to run it every night? Would once or twice a week be sufficient?
Yes I believe it would be. So far I have turned it down a little more each day to try and find the ideal nightly minimal dose :).
friend good night! What are the best models of ozone generator equipment I can see for my 500 gallon reef? grateful for the support. hugs from Brazil
There are 2 different methods. UV which is silent has a UV bulb that air passes by - takes more electricity to run. Or corona discharge makes a little buzzing sounds and the electricity /sparks break up the o2 as it passes through. both do the job and have pros's cons. every brand uses one of the two so they are all pretty similar at the end of the day.
Checking in to see if you recommend ozone for reef tanks? What size would I need for a reefer 450?
Great video,! Did you notice if it cleared up diatoms ?
Im struggling on my 1200ltr to get my ozome to work, i dont seem to grt any water clarity. Can you help or advise on a better ozone.
Set a defer command on the APEX so some time elapses before cycling on and off at the ORP setting You have. Mine is set for 1 hour delay before coming back on, but whatever u want. It also gives the skimmer time to work better when off as it seems to affect the skimming capability on mine, but maybe I have it turned up too much.
Excellent suggestion, thanks
I've been waiting on this video Reefdudes. We'll talk later and hopefully you can give me some tips on how to integrate mine.
Sounds good! i see lots of benefits using a small amount! I'm seeing a nice PH boost as well! (bonus!)
Yes! Was waiting on this
If you put a fitting on your lid so that the air coming out is recirculated back into the skimmer but leave that open port on your silencer open, you don't need to use the carbon on top anymore. It's one thing I took from the LifeReef skimmer and incorporated to my reef octopus sro3000 skimmer. Keep an eye on your rubber hose on your skimmer. My old RLSS db6i skimmer I dry rotted from using ozone as it wasn't made for it. I have a ozotech Poseidon series that I run at the lowest setting and restrict airflow to it so it doses less. I do that so I could run the skimmer 24/7 if I wanted but I don't. I don't because by the next day my skimmer stops producing anything. My ORP averages 415
I told the apex to turn off ozone when the ORP hits 350.. i guess could raise it a bit more.. I keep turning it down slightly on a daily basis until it peaks there rather than turning on and off.. other interesting bit is seeing a PH boost! There is a ton of other benefits im noticing but that will be in the second video once i can confirm it all!
What size is your tank and how much ozone are you using?
at 10 percent of my generator which is at around 22mg/hr if i don't use an air restrictor on the feed side. with the restrictor almost completely closed almost 90%, its roughly 2mg/hr. you truly don't need a lot of ozone and its better to keep it at a super low dose spread out through out the day (or night like i do) than multiple "big" shots for short times. when i first was learning to using ozone i had it cranked up really high and i noticed that all my corals started to look deflated and some of them were closing up, i was over dosing and a lot. it can hurt the fish and burn their gills if you use too much. since then i started reducing it to as small of a dose that i can while doing the white bucket test (fill up a 5 gal bucket of tank water against a white bucket and fill up a 5 gallon bucket of clean fresh salt water and compare the colors) now, my tank water is just as clear as fresh salt water.
my tank is a Red Sea Reefer425xl and it's up against a white back ground corner so you notice really quick if the water ever starts getting that yellow tint lol.
Each day i have turned it down a bit more.. i think they key is to find the smallest amount that gives results.. Thanks for sharing your experience with it!
My ph swung up to 8.5 normally 8.3 using same ozone generator but yours looks to be the opposite way maybe doesn't matter?
I only run mine at night when ph is naturally falling. I’m not sure there is any coronations
Great results
In your opinion how much do tank size ratings really matter for ozone? If your tank was twice the volume couldn’t you just run it longer?
you would likely get a similar effect, and lower amounts would be safer :)
So this model is still for sale on Amazon im going to try it a hour a day with a water change and stir up a lot of gunk my mum would be so proud lol any more info you found would be great
Hi, I'm planning on doing the same to my tank. Can you share the program you wrote for your apex for orp control. Thanks.
My current ozone code
Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Time 00:01 to 06:00 Then ON
If ORP > 410 Then OFF
If Output Skimmer_10_4 = OFF Then OFF
Thank you for the video. Kindly share the link of ozone generator
Give me another week and I will. I just want to make sure its for sure good before a recommend it.
hi, great video. what size ozone generator(10-100mg/h?) for my 210g system. Thanks a lot for advice
5-50mg/h and i run it about 50% so 25mg ish Yep, i would say running the 10-100 at 50% would be about right... Its always best to start it low and work it up until you find just enough to get the job done
thanks for advice. thumbs up
Hi I just wonder if you have the good air input, because mine when face and look at the led air input is on the left side and ozone output on the right.
I have a different skimmer now so can’t confirm but as long as it’s getting sucked in it will work
Hi friend .
which ORP do I have to set in the Sander redox potantial to get optimal results in reef aquarium?
Whats your current level?
Ozone is great, water will be crystal clear, but is expensive in my country indonesia
Hi are you still running ozone? Have you noticed ORP has risen since when the ozone is not in use?
Yep still am for a few hours anight :) goes down when feeding, up at night after ozone
@@ReefDudes how long should i run the ozone at nightime ? for 300gal system
Ho Buddy,
did you see a big diference on the skimmer skimate? mine went from a dark muddy skimate to a liquid yellowish water. can you help me with that?
Mine is still super dark.. just less stinky! Try turning down the ozone a bit or setting your skimmer to a dryer skim
From theoretical point of view ozone should decrease your skimmers effectiveness. Generally speaking ozone breaks down large organics into smaller molecules. Larger organic molecules are more likely to get skimmed from a theoretical standpoint. Personally ozon makes a lot of sense if followed by active filter media or a refugium with macro algea, since the smaller organics are more readily available for uptake for macro algea. Or for any of the bacterialogical steps leading to nitrification (higher O2 availability improves denitrification, ozon directly reacts at a high k rate with NO2 changing it to NO3 making the NO3 availability higher) so it makes total sense your skimate turned more yellow. (source: wastewater engineer)
Do you run the output of your skimmer through activated carbon?
RooBurry it’s a good idea to do so
@@ReefDudes I've read it is also, but do YOU? :) You talked about putting carbon on top of the skimmer cup, but not the output of the skimmer itself in the water.
RooBurry just the top. I fell that I run it at a low enough concentration that is more or less half life’d and used up by the time it exits. With ozone I feel you should only use “just enough”
@@ReefDudes Thanks for the response(s). I have a 450 gallon setup, with a Nyos 220 Skimmer. The water output on it isn't that "nice" or shaped in such a way that putting a bag of carbon on the output is that easy.
I’m actually running the 160 now so
I’m Assuming it’s pretty similar I also only run ozone from 1am
Onwards when everyone (should) be in bed as another level of precaution. But again only run just enough to get that crystal clear water :)
What’s the best number for ORP, my ORP has s between 304 and 320 normally
300-350 is a good range
Are you still using ozone?
Sure am
Does it ruin your skimmer? I'm interested in trying it but I have an expensive skimmer. :\
@@ReefDudes
I AM SO LATE TO THIS LOL.. i bought an Et-200. Trying to get it working. i just noticed that your "input" is opposite from the manual. so i guess either way works?
Director of in/out doesn’t matter. So your good!
@@ReefDudes Appreciate that i have it 100% and its not making a dent. So i dunno and i only have 350 total water volume. wish they had customer service. lol
Oh wait maybe its too damp out there? its in my fish room in the garage humidity might be high.
Hi, I fond after running ozne with the apex after a month or so that my orp no longer seems to drop even though visually I can see its not as clear, ill be interested to see if you have this happen to you, I just manually run it everynow and then to clear it up.
Maybe there is nothing left to break down? How many mg for how many hours were you running yours Simon?
It doesn’t rid of particulates, but breaks them down smaller. You gotta run good carbon to remove particulates. Don’t rely solely on ozone
That's definitely crystal clear I can see ure pumps at the other end lol
The camera does not do it justice!
What all is needed to run the O3?
The generator and some form of a reactor are the basics. Maybe I’ll do an updated video on it this weekend d
Only thing i missed was an explanation on ORP, other than that interesting video
Daniel Salt ORP is oxidation reduction potential and applies to the water chemistry's ability to remove impurities through oxidation
ORP is the oxidation reduction potential of the water.. the ozone is made of 3 oxygen molecules, one of which is released and will latch onto organics in the reaction chamber and oxidize it (break it down). Ill try and explain it more when i do the the followup video ill try to dive into it more.
Cheers, i see the term being used frequently (due to apex has the probe i guess), but as i dont measure it myself i have never endulged myself with that knowledge.
Is it related to the value of redox/conductivity of the water?
Redox/ORP yep!
I would think that you'd want to keep orp constant.
I just used it for trends to see when things go outside of the norm
Can you share the link on the purchase of the ozone generator?
Yes I can, however this was one has an EU plug..i have been trying to find the same one with a US plug to save people the hassle of converting it... unless of course your inthe UK! :)
ReefDudes yes that will be fine
I am in the us side
HI NICE PLUMBING YOU HAVE IN YOUR BUILT DO YOU HAVE A VIDEO OF YOUR PLUMI NG I LOOKING FOR IDEAS THANKS.
Sure do! well I should..check out the early videos in my playlist - ruclips.net/p/PLUwsp9cjKoiOwrcC_2WzMQizuuST4ur7c
THANK U BUT I DON'T SEE ANY PLUMBING THERE
Try this one, i go over most of my equipment!
ruclips.net/video/TrU0k-4xsqs/видео.html
if all else fails i can make one just on plumbing :)
Did ozone discolor your skimmer acrylic?
No it has not. I contacted the company first to verify they used ozone safe acrylics. So double check with the skimmer manufacture first! :)
Have you noticed you are not cleaning your glass alot less running ozone
I still have to clean it but water is clearer
Hi friend.
Don't you afraid of the Ozone?
I see the ozone is in your house.
I want to buy Ozonizer too, but I afraid.
what do you say?
if I buy Sander ozonizer certizon 100 + redbox and potantiol controller.
Can I get relax?
If you are worried, put carbon on the holes of your skimmer lid to absorb and only use a small amount of ozone.. less is more!
ReefDudes
Thank you so much for your reply.
But, what about the bottom outlet the skimmer from which the water comes out into the sump, is there no fear that ozone will be released and poison the fish?
Some put carbon there, i don't worry about it as i run a very low concentration of ozone. It have a very short half life and only lives for a few seconds in the water
ReefDudes
Thanks.
If I have 700 l net water.
ozonizer 100mg per hour for marine water.
is it enough?
or I need 200mg
im only running 25mg /h ish on my 120g ish tank for about 4-5h a night
How noisy is it?
Pretty quiet
Thanks I have the Enaly Ozac Plus 200 on order but expecting it to be quite loud from some reviews have seen, the only youtube vids of it running have music overlay, probably for a reason.
Good tip! ill be sure to include more silent audio clips in future updates
Had there been a update
Maybe I’ll do a ozone video next week
@@ReefDudes I seen the one update you had that wasn't too long ago. But I really want to add on with my Nyos 220 skimmer.
@@waynebowles I’m doing that now :)
@@ReefDudes I definitely saw that lol just a little nervous to pull the trigger. I appreciate the writing back though.