Not try... cotnrary to what media portraits.. the reis no invisibility. There is obfuscation of the signal. But a pattern is there, the laws of physics demand it and no kind of tech can remove it completely. IF you keep exposing it, eventually the enemies will figure the pattern. That is why All stealth planes when overexposed ten to get less and less effective.
I'm fairly confident that RCS is intentionally increased for all low RCS aircraft for this exact purpose. This is done for f35 so I'd be shocked if it isn't done for the rest.
@@TealJoshIT is not a matter of size, but of pattern. It does not matter how small the RCS is, if the pattern is observed enough times it can be isolated and then one can make a software to track it. Contrary to wht the simplistic explanation is given for the F35 pods that are said to extend the RCS signature, they are there to CHANGE the pattern, not the size of the return. The B2 was created before the Backpropagarion algorithm that can detect such patterns was created (in fact is the very same algorithms that is the base of all modern AI), so it probably had no safegurads against it as the F35 has.
The B-2 is the only plane that the Air Force considers the correct choice for a preemptive nuclear strike so yes that would be considered a 'bad day' lmao
Yah, it’s almost exclusively used on “first day of war” missions where the enemy airspace is more contested. Its capabilities arnt needed for most mission the us flies today.
@@tpkdm71 The issue with that is your not escorting it with your standard F-15/F-16's, or even F-35's. You've got straight up F-22's providing escort a little bit away. If it gets pinged just once its pretty much useless, but at the same time them 22s will have already picked up and fired at whatever is coming.
@@ThebaconmurdererSo, where in Finland do you think the new airbases etc are being built atm ? I mean, large part of rus nuclear going above north pole aiming towards NA are almost in arty range of Fin (yeah did that, ouch)
@@Thebaconmurderer i mean even if its found that doesn't mean they can shoot it down. The radars used to find a plane and get a weapons lock on it are 2 different Beasts alltogether. Even if they find a B2, unless they can direct fighters to it they likely still wont be able to shoot it down. There has only been 1 case of a stealth bomber shot down (not a B2 iirc) and the only reason they were able to do it because they knew it was coming and the plane was exposing angles by taking turns it shouldnt have made
The B-21 programme originated in about 2000 at the very earliest, and the newest aircraft actually in service is the RQ-180 which had its first flight in 2010 and came from a programme started in 2005, with roots in the late 90’s. Although if we’re talking about engines, he is probably correct as the B21 uses a derivative of the F119
i’m sure it’s very capable of it already and already tested it with a dummy bomb. stuff like that moves faster than you think. it’s just on a need to know basis
@@masonagent4009they could already be using it. if a serious empire-ending war were to break out with the US, i sort of fear what the government may unleash
Oh yeah it'll be years. The b2 won't dissappear ofmver night. When they say they're talking about retiring a platform it probably has a solid 10-20 years left lol
@@redactedrider7606 B-2 will still be usable even with degraded stealth capabilities. They had series of avioncis upgrades, they are tested, capable and have lot of life left in them. Somebody just needs to make a decision.
maybe they say the B2 is retiring so the other block doesn't focus on radar detection. But keep it around anyways or maybe have something 10x more advanced.
Why would the other block stop focusing on radar whe the b21 is already in service, along with the f22 and f35? Edit:(b21 is not yet in service, planned to enter service 2027. The point still stands)
With the difference in stealth capability between the US and its enemies, they might as well give up anyway 😂 Even if/when they detect the bumblebee going mach 2, their SAM radars can't get a lock, so it doesn't matter that they know you're there, they can't do shit about it
I don't believe it will retire until the air frames give out. Once the B-21 becomes a thing then I believe the B-2 will be nuke only. while the B-52 will be a fleet destroyer because it can carry 21 or more long range cruise missiles on its wings and is faster than any ship.
When the United Nations Navy needs some Martians dusted in the Belt, they’re going to be flying in with B-52s equipped with Epstein Drives. The BUFF will outlive the USA.
@JoeBlake-nc5zb you realize that's everything? Boeings new engines have a 90000lbs thrust and the people I work with say it's garbage. It may be a hassle and break a lot but it's capabilities do makeup just like the bone and other military equipment.
@@afcgeo882 No the B52 would stay, it's pilots would die. A Single B52 can change a battle, and B1-s strike fear into the enemy, the B2 is meant to be a Ghost, you never know if its there but just the fact that it could should be deterrent enough
One time while driving cross country while I was passing through Washington DC I had a B2 escorted by two fighter jets do a low fly by right over me. One of the coolest things I’ve ever seen. They are so much bigger and strange looking in person. Looks like an alien craft
My fav B-2 story is when they revealed the bomber to officials and military folk they pulled the plane all the way out of a hanger in front of a large stand for an audience. Well a journalist had gotten wind of this event and had a plane fly him over the base and got a bunch of photos of the plane from above. These photos would go on to reveal a bunch of classified angles the wing shape and vents which can help radar identify it. Was a whole snafu and recently when they revealed the B-21 Raider its replacement they made sure to only partially pull it out of the hanger and place the bleachers at a very specific angle to limit how much you could see of shape of overall plane.
@@Tex_actualIt isn't the b52 itself that is scary, it's what follows. If you're a fighter pilot, you'd be scared straight. A b52 is always escorted by planes you won't see before it's too late. I have my deepest respect for the American armed forces.
@@nicholascaburian7209It did, in fact, leave the chat. But in all seriousness, I get your point that the b-29 is the only plane to drop nukes in war. My counterpoint is that the b-52 fleet is always on standby to do the same thing x1000. If a b-29 flies at you, you’re getting one bomb. A b-52? You’re writing your will in shorthand
Hi, from a military brat who was stationed at Tinker AFB! I spent summers plane spotting on the flight line. Were you there during the Space Shuttle years?
Being in Missouri B-2s fly over often, and I’ll tell you man, those things are so loud they shake your brain. The first time I heard one I didn’t even see the plane but it was ROARING overhead for a solid 3 min before my buddy pointed it out
My Grandmother was a QA/QC Inspector for Lockheed on the B2. She used to say the same thing "Your going to have a bad day, if they have to use the Stealth." She never told us everything she worked on as it was classified; but I did get to collect a lot of cool patches from pilots.
@@the_reality_coach HMMM, Northrop built the B2 with their major sub-contractor being Boeing. Lockheed built the F117 Stealth Fighter. I'm not saying it isn't possible, and I'm not calling you a liar, but you may be mistaken. My ex was QA on the B2 and I myself worked several years on the final assembly plant creating secure areas so other outside contractors could work on the building. Both projects were going on at the same time...In the WIKI they are connected as far as having experience in stealth technology from the SR71 and U2, but in reference to the F117. Lockheed was indeed in a design competition for the B2 but they never built anything as far as I know.
@@andyfletcher3561She QA'd Avionics and Structural For F-117A & B-2 Spirit out of Sunnyvale, Ca . Apparently She QA'd Components (don't know what) for Lockheed Martin & NASA out of Palo Alto under the Shuttle Program. She was with Lockheed from '70-'90 then retired. I wish I could ask her so many things, She Passed in 2013.
@@the_reality_coach I was able to take mine to the first two Shuttle landings at Edwards AFB. She passed about a year later. Aside from my younger brother, she was the only relative I cared for.
Makes sense, the stealthier the plane the “smaller” it is. The more target practice you give to the enemy eventually makes the plane anything but stealthy.
"Plane is stealthy and we don't want our enemies to learn to detect stealthy planes so we'll just stop flying stealthy planes." Is asinine. Stealth (being able to detect the enemy on your radar before they can detect you) is the #1 thing that keeps pilots alive
Yep, that's why the F-35 comes with a box you can place on the rear fuselage that enlarges the radar cross section. It's used for patrol and scramble to identify interceptions. Makes no sense to fly up to a Russian AWACS (A-50) in stealth config.
Makes sense.. you don't want enemies getting their radars on it to be able to recognise it later on.. also, it's like the nuke.. if you actually see a B2 in the air, when US never sends it abroad, it means some shit is actually about to go down and it's not some training
They had a rotation of them stationed on Guam at Anderson AFB when I was stationed there a few years after 9/11. I refueled them on the flightline. Very awesome aircraft.
Our adversaries don't use the right types of radar though. It's all old cold war Era radars that are falsely advertised as being anti stealth because of a fluke during the campaigns in Yugoslavia
She nailed it with keeping it away from radar, that’s the reason the F-117 ended up getting shot down ultimately. It showed its hand too many times and an ancient soviet radar caught it in a sweep, the biggest part of stealth aircraft no one talks about is actually not using it until you absolutely have to.
The F-117 had its bomb doors open when it got targeted. So that was little bit a special case, because the open bomb bay does have a bigger radar signature.
@@heyyo162 ultimately it didn’t matter that it had its bay open, it was known where the F-117s were coming from it was only a matter of time before a SAM finally got a good lock. There were already close calls prior to the shoot down.
B2s have done 15,000 mile bombing missions. Thats what they were made for. And yes they are difficult and expensive to store and maintain, but thats the cost of having an Airplane that can fly across the world, destroy or nuke multiple targets, and then fly back home completely undetectable for 99.99% of the mission. And don’t even bring up S400s, those systems can’t even detect and stop low visibility cruise missiles that are dropped right on top of them.
B2's are made for covert missions and when crap hits the fan. 52's completely obliterated Iraq over 50 years after they were made while being escorted..
Even with the b21 coming i to service we should absolutely not retire the b2s. They are still useful and carry something like almost twice the payload. And i personally think they should convert a couple to stealth tankers.
Didn’t they just reveal the new B2 model? I can’t remember what it’s called but it’s essentially the B2 but with more capabilities like being able to control a fleet of drones for an escort and a bunch of other crazy stuff
OPSEC much?.... We're coming in from the north, below their radar. Elaine Dickinson : When will you be back? Ted Striker : I can't tell you that. It's classified.😊
I used to live in Warrensburg MO 15miles from whitman. The B2 used to fly over our playground all the time during recess. I even drew it in a few art projects as a child. Coolest plame ever to me because i never got to see a blackbird or concord fly of couse.
I got to see the last flight of the blackbird. well the 72. Was in class and a sonic boom made the supplies in our closet fall. Ran outside and scanned the sky. Saw a tiny black dot. Was really cool. Eventually got to see one at an air and space museum in arizona.
Coming back from StL to Kc I made a detour to drive by Whiteman and chill for awhile, got to see 2 B2's circling the base. One of the coolest things I've ever seen.
I live about a 15 minute drive from Arrowhead Stadium and they used to circle my house waiting for the flyover on game day . We also see them when we go to shoot at the range . Sometimes 2 to 6 at a time . They have a unique sound and if they are at certain angles you are hard pressed to see them .
Interestingly enough, the F-15EX with 22 missiles has a huge cross section. You want that. A big honking flying missile platform that can down and entire wing from far away saying yoohoo to all those fancy X-band radars. Next you fly a drone with that cross section profile and you keep the enemy with their tail under their trembling legs.
The F-15EX is just a long-range missile truck, it's designed to operate well outside the contested airspace itself so the radar cross-section of it is entirely irrelevant. It's not meant to go anywhere within 100 miles of enemy fighters. It is meant to carry an absolute boatload of AIM-240 that can be guided onto target with datalink by the stealth fighters that CAN safely operate in contested airspace but can't carry as many missiles themselves (and can't fire any themselves without compromising their stealth). It's also got massive fuel reserves, like the F-15E that came before it, giving it substantially longer operational range and loiter time than other BVR fighters for CAP roles even if aerial refueling capabilities are compromised.
It’s part of the airforce’s combat readiness. There’s always bombers in the air around the clock. It’s also part of like she said. The recent show of force missions and deterrence
B-2's aren't used not because we are afraid to use them but because they are a part of the Strategic Nuclear asset deployment. We only use them at Defcon levels not seen since the cuban missile crisis.
I wonder how much it would cost to restart B1 production. It's fast, decent legs, can carry a large payload, relatively small r.c.s.; It's perfect for a hypersonic delivery platform.
I will never forget growing up in Missouri where most B-2’s are stationed. Getting to see one fly low and silent right over your head in the pitch black of night (looks like a UFO!) or one time having them in actual 3-plane formation flying training sorties all day directly over our house are memories I will never forget 🙂
The Northrop Grumman USAF B-2 Spirit is rather quiet flying overhead. Reasons are both the jet engines intake and exhaust are located on the upper surfaces of the wing. The exhaust is muffled and vents allow exhaust gases to mix with cooler ambient air reducing heat signature.27. mai 2022
Unlucky radar scan. It was the third radar scan from the sam site when normally they only do two, but on the third one the F117 had its bomb bay doors open and when theyre open its minimal radar signature becomes very large and they launched a missile right at it.
@@ThePointlessBox_ I’m already knowing it’s other factors that go into radar detection… the biggest failure is human error which is good keep going Merica I need my planes at its best when I get into office
This isn't how it was shot down. She is talking about the op for learning to detect radar cross sections by pattern recognition, the Nighthawk went down because it lost its stealth, not from the opfor learning. (As mentioned by others, the bomb doors were open, unlucky timing).
I remember seeing the B2’s in The Sum of All Fears movie and Russia said, “Their stealth bombers have taken off, that is the sign.” When in reality they’d never know if they took off 😂
The B-52 is far from stealthy. Yet with upgrades over the decades, It is still operating. It is still feared and respected by enemies and allies around the world
Some things, you want to come with fanfare. You want to show the entire world what is about to happen in 4k, and that you give not a single fiddler's fuck what they got to say about it. That's what Grandpa Buff is for.
My friend flies a B-2 and he often gets asked in bbq how often does he piss and sht on the aircraft, we always laugh on how he recreate those moments but not until i think during the bombing raids on Syria in 2017. His tone changed not the always proud with his stories type. He was asked and he calmly and like staring out of nowhere said that their aircraft was pinged not once but 13 times during the sortie. We asked what is ping and such and he said its when an enemy radar tries to track you and the ping is the warning that they are getting there to almost having a hit on you. We asked that isnt the B-2 the most stealthy and advance aircraft of the USAF and he said well adversaries are catching up.
You're lying and so is your friend...if he isn't a made up "My friend". BS! This comment is as dumb as the woman jawing on about something she is full of shit about!
The only way he could have gotten pinged 13 times is if he opened his bomb bays 13 times. Either that or some low frequency early warning radar was setting it off
I'm awaiting the B-3 with it's mind shifting cloak of uninvisibility. Slated to cost $3 trillion a pop and play unlimited Richard Simmons dance grooves in the cockpit.
It's almost like this has been done in response to certain parties acting with shameless aggressive maneuvers and attempts to tell the United States they cannot operate in international waters. Weird.
@tiberianexcalibur when some of our closest allies and major national security interests are constantly being threatened of invasion then yes, the USA has every right to be in INTERNATIONAL waters very close to an aggressor communist state. If China leaves Taiwan and the rest of SE Asia alone, Russia leaves Ukraine, and North Korea stops threatening to nuke Japan and the rest of the world then maybe the US can finally sit at home and stop being a global military power.
I heard someone say that the US military only retires a weapon when it has something better to replace it. Which makes me think they either have the B21 flying already or something else they aren't talking about.
They've already publicly unveiled and named the B21. They don't do that type of thing until the aircraft is already functional and has completed quite a bit of flight testing. It may not be officially certified for many things because that's a long and complicated process, but I would be willing to bet everything I own that if something popped off tomorrow the B-21 would be fully capable of being utilized as necessary in an emergency situation.
Funny cause I saw two B-2s land and take off in Croatia about 3 months ago. it was very late , possibly 2-3 in the morning. It was apparently an emergency touch and go stop. I’ll never forget that.
I’m not saying the pilot is wrong, but didn’t USAF say that detecting an aircraft is different from being able to put a missile lock on it. Although I guess the more chances you give them, maybe they’ll get a missile lock signature someday.
Except this is also kind of bullshit, considering we intentionally flew B-2's over Korea in 2013 as an intentional show of force. The point of the B-2 is nuclear deterrence, so you also want them to know you're around sometimes. It's not just the Lancer's and B-52's that are showy sometimes.
so they are used a lot now. which means there are way more hours being put on these airframes. how many do we have? how many hours are left on these airframes? what do we plan on replacing them with?
Spent a year in University 10 miles from Whiteman AFB. Only once did I see a B2 pop out if the clouds but oh so cool to see it! Amazing aircraft. I remember the day they flew nonstop and return from Yugoslavia. Some of my friends knew the pilots who did that mission
Back in the early 90’s I was driving south on hwy14 from China Lake towards Edwards AFB, when the B2 was in tests. I didn’t see it until it turned and when it leveled out it completely disappeared from view again. Even in full daytime, it’s difficult to see in visible light. Can’t imagine a computer trying to interpret radar signals and accurately ‘type’ such a small signature.
This is why we need a replacement for the B-1 that has similar characteristics but improved capabilities to complement the capabilities of the B-2 and B-21.
Intercept with fighters. Anti air can see stealth but cant "lock" it making its missiles useless. Most systems don't just use radar but combine with infrared and in IR stealth shines like anything else. There is a reason america doesn't fly jets over rival airspace anymore. The adversary can and will learn to detect and overcome your advantage if you let them. All that being said steal is still amazing and there is a reason stealth tech is gaurded on the same level as nuclear tech.
I heard another military youtuber saying that same thing about rocket launches as a show of force. Every time you do it someone is studying how you do it.
The other tactical bit is the scare factor. If you have stealth craft flying by your airspace it means your testing air defense for weakness or its a possible attack. It raises all sorts of alarm bells.
Spirit of missouri was shot down over Serbia and crashlanded in Croatia. They tool it of the roster and made a new one, showing it the first game 2 years after the war. The same old tech with a twist that destroyed f117 did the b2.
You don’t want adversaries having multiple opportunities to test radar systems to try and track them.
Not try... cotnrary to what media portraits.. the reis no invisibility. There is obfuscation of the signal. But a pattern is there, the laws of physics demand it and no kind of tech can remove it completely. IF you keep exposing it, eventually the enemies will figure the pattern.
That is why All stealth planes when overexposed ten to get less and less effective.
I'm fairly confident that RCS is intentionally increased for all low RCS aircraft for this exact purpose. This is done for f35 so I'd be shocked if it isn't done for the rest.
its slow and not able to maneuver and super expensive. it is extrememly vulnerable to attack
@piffdaddy420 dafuq are you smoking? Please explain your sef.
@@TealJoshIT is not a matter of size, but of pattern. It does not matter how small the RCS is, if the pattern is observed enough times it can be isolated and then one can make a software to track it. Contrary to wht the simplistic explanation is given for the F35 pods that are said to extend the RCS signature, they are there to CHANGE the pattern, not the size of the return. The B2 was created before the Backpropagarion algorithm that can detect such patterns was created (in fact is the very same algorithms that is the base of all modern AI), so it probably had no safegurads against it as the F35 has.
The B-2 is the only plane that the Air Force considers the correct choice for a preemptive nuclear strike so yes that would be considered a 'bad day' lmao
Yah, it’s almost exclusively used on “first day of war” missions where the enemy airspace is more contested. Its capabilities arnt needed for most mission the us flies today.
@@tpkdm71 The issue with that is your not escorting it with your standard F-15/F-16's, or even F-35's. You've got straight up F-22's providing escort a little bit away. If it gets pinged just once its pretty much useless, but at the same time them 22s will have already picked up and fired at whatever is coming.
@@ThebaconmurdererSo, where in Finland do you think the new airbases etc are being built atm ? I mean, large part of rus nuclear going above north pole aiming towards NA are almost in arty range of Fin (yeah did that, ouch)
@@Thebaconmurderer i mean even if its found that doesn't mean they can shoot it down. The radars used to find a plane and get a weapons lock on it are 2 different Beasts alltogether. Even if they find a B2, unless they can direct fighters to it they likely still wont be able to shoot it down.
There has only been 1 case of a stealth bomber shot down (not a B2 iirc) and the only reason they were able to do it because they knew it was coming and the plane was exposing angles by taking turns it shouldnt have made
@@lightking1000they shot down a f-117 by shooting the missiles as it's bomb bay door was open, it was practically a shot in the dark.
The raider is coming over with friends...and it doesn't announce itself until it's leaving.
Cringe
@@FarrierrI assure you a 500lb JDAM isn’t “Cringe”
@@FarrierrThe B-21 Raider is the replacement for the B-2... read a book
😂😂😂 love it
@jeffg.c.8948 cringeception 💀💀
Remember kids; Fighter pilots make movies, bomber pilots make history.
/yawn
@@01hafkeeit’s historically accurate tho
@@01hafkee🤓
The new term for strategic bomber is hypersonic missile
@@01hafkeedude said /, this is RUclips buddy not your Reddit circlejerk
My rocket science teacher was a retired jet engine engineer and said the newest plane we know about is at least 35 years old.
The B-21 programme originated in about 2000 at the very earliest, and the newest aircraft actually in service is the RQ-180 which had its first flight in 2010 and came from a programme started in 2005, with roots in the late 90’s. Although if we’re talking about engines, he is probably correct as the B21 uses a derivative of the F119
@Formula1st are we not counting the KC-46's then?
@@PDitty757 how is that relevant?
@@Formula1st wouldn't the MQ-4C Triton be newer? Although I guess that's a navy plane
@@bee5440 perhaps but I’d say it’s more of an upgraded RQ-4 than a new plane
B2 won't retire until the B21 is certified to drop the B61 which will take longer than you think.
i’m sure it’s very capable of it already and already tested it with a dummy bomb. stuff like that moves faster than you think. it’s just on a need to know basis
@@masonagent4009they could already be using it. if a serious empire-ending war were to break out with the US, i sort of fear what the government may unleash
Oh yeah it'll be years. The b2 won't dissappear ofmver night. When they say they're talking about retiring a platform it probably has a solid 10-20 years left lol
@@redactedrider7606 B-2 will still be usable even with degraded stealth capabilities. They had series of avioncis upgrades, they are tested, capable and have lot of life left in them. Somebody just needs to make a decision.
The b21 uses the same fire control computer as the f35 which is already certified. 2030-2035 im guessing .
B-2 spirit RCS: “ever seen a bird drop 47 couches?”
maybe they say the B2 is retiring so the other block doesn't focus on radar detection. But keep it around anyways or maybe have something 10x more advanced.
Why would the other block stop focusing on radar whe the b21 is already in service, along with the f22 and f35?
Edit:(b21 is not yet in service, planned to enter service 2027. The point still stands)
With the difference in stealth capability between the US and its enemies, they might as well give up anyway 😂
Even if/when they detect the bumblebee going mach 2, their SAM radars can't get a lock, so it doesn't matter that they know you're there, they can't do shit about it
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I don't believe it will retire until the air frames give out. Once the B-21 becomes a thing then I believe the B-2 will be nuke only. while the B-52 will be a fleet destroyer because it can carry 21 or more long range cruise missiles on its wings and is faster than any ship.
That's what's been going on with the f117. They "retired" it but it's still operational.
B52: you’re gonna have a bad day
B2: you’re not gonna enjoy your last! 💀
Thank you Grandpa Buff.
When the United Nations Navy needs some Martians dusted in the Belt, they’re going to be flying in with B-52s equipped with Epstein Drives. The BUFF will outlive the USA.
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Lancer is a monster of an aircraft
And a monster to try and fix , for all its cool capabilities those who really know it call it a fucking piece of shit 😂
The bone still has the largest bomb load at 75000lbs
@JoeBlake-nc5zb you realize that's everything? Boeings new engines have a 90000lbs thrust and the people I work with say it's garbage. It may be a hassle and break a lot but it's capabilities do makeup just like the bone and other military equipment.
@@mr-kukukachu7691 oh for sure
@@ryansouthworth668 it’s fucking wild
I went to the Rose Bowl one year when they had a B2 flyover. It was so quiet. It was insane. Made me very happy to be American.
The old BUFF pilots did tell the young B2 pilots, the day they retire the B2, well fly you home on our BUFFS, they where right.
B-21 looks at this and says - well, now that's creepy territory....
The plane would retire… not its pilots.
@@afcgeo882 No the B52 would stay, it's pilots would die.
A Single B52 can change a battle, and B1-s strike fear into the enemy, the B2 is meant to be a Ghost, you never know if its there but just the fact that it could should be deterrent enough
BUFF is here to stay. Might be in service for 100 years...
@@angelosasso1653 I believe the b52 to be the pinnacle of bomber design, at least when it comes to general purpose use
The B-52 is a warning, the B-2 is the find out part of the curriculum
One time while driving cross country while I was passing through Washington DC I had a B2 escorted by two fighter jets do a low fly by right over me. One of the coolest things I’ve ever seen. They are so much bigger and strange looking in person. Looks like an alien craft
My fav B-2 story is when they revealed the bomber to officials and military folk they pulled the plane all the way out of a hanger in front of a large stand for an audience. Well a journalist had gotten wind of this event and had a plane fly him over the base and got a bunch of photos of the plane from above. These photos would go on to reveal a bunch of classified angles the wing shape and vents which can help radar identify it. Was a whole snafu and recently when they revealed the B-21 Raider its replacement they made sure to only partially pull it out of the hanger and place the bleachers at a very specific angle to limit how much you could see of shape of overall plane.
Sounds fake, how did a journalist fly in a plane over restricted airspace?
Pretty sure the Russians have satellites
@@thomassandoval8025 Probably high and outside the airspace with a very good telescopic lens.
@@SendarSlayer
LOL...dumb response!
BS!
B-52 probably top 5 most feared plane of all time
Depends on context. Your fighter pilot I don’t think you’re scared of a B-52. If you soldier in the back line, you’re probably fucking terrified.
@@Tex_actualIt isn't the b52 itself that is scary, it's what follows. If you're a fighter pilot, you'd be scared straight. A b52 is always escorted by planes you won't see before it's too late. I have my deepest respect for the American armed forces.
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@@nicholascaburian7209It did, in fact, leave the chat.
But in all seriousness, I get your point that the b-29 is the only plane to drop nukes in war. My counterpoint is that the b-52 fleet is always on standby to do the same thing x1000. If a b-29 flies at you, you’re getting one bomb. A b-52? You’re writing your will in shorthand
Doubt that man, it's gonna be the WW2 planes. Maybe the A10 or ac130
“A bad day”
That’s the understatement of a lifetime
Used to see B2s on the flightline from time to time while I was stationed at Tinker afb. Such a damn beautiful aircraft
@@benjaminhodge5110 I said from time to time lol
Hi, from a military brat who was stationed at Tinker AFB! I spent summers plane spotting on the flight line. Were you there during the Space Shuttle years?
Being in Missouri B-2s fly over often, and I’ll tell you man, those things are so loud they shake your brain. The first time I heard one I didn’t even see the plane but it was ROARING overhead for a solid 3 min before my buddy pointed it out
My Grandmother was a QA/QC Inspector for Lockheed on the B2. She used to say the same thing "Your going to have a bad day, if they have to use the Stealth." She never told us everything she worked on as it was classified; but I did get to collect a lot of cool patches from pilots.
For Lockheed? Are you sure? Was her name Pat by chance?
@andyfletcher3561 Yes, she did for Lockheed. No Her name wasn't Pat.
@@the_reality_coach HMMM, Northrop built the B2 with their major sub-contractor being Boeing. Lockheed built the F117 Stealth Fighter. I'm not saying it isn't possible, and I'm not calling you a liar, but you may be mistaken. My ex was QA on the B2 and I myself worked several years on the final assembly plant creating secure areas so other outside contractors could work on the building. Both projects were going on at the same time...In the WIKI they are connected as far as having experience in stealth technology from the SR71 and U2, but in reference to the F117. Lockheed was indeed in a design competition for the B2 but they never built anything as far as I know.
@@andyfletcher3561She QA'd Avionics and Structural For F-117A & B-2 Spirit out of Sunnyvale, Ca . Apparently She QA'd Components (don't know what) for Lockheed Martin & NASA out of Palo Alto under the Shuttle Program. She was with Lockheed from '70-'90 then retired. I wish I could ask her so many things, She Passed in 2013.
@@the_reality_coach I was able to take mine to the first two Shuttle landings at Edwards AFB. She passed about a year later. Aside from my younger brother, she was the only relative I cared for.
Makes sense, the stealthier the plane the “smaller” it is. The more target practice you give to the enemy eventually makes the plane anything but stealthy.
"Plane is stealthy and we don't want our enemies to learn to detect stealthy planes so we'll just stop flying stealthy planes." Is asinine. Stealth (being able to detect the enemy on your radar before they can detect you) is the #1 thing that keeps pilots alive
@@joebuckley2180We’ll still fly them just not near hostile or potentially near-peer adversaries.
Yep, that's why the F-35 comes with a box you can place on the rear fuselage that enlarges the radar cross section. It's used for patrol and scramble to identify interceptions. Makes no sense to fly up to a Russian AWACS (A-50) in stealth config.
Think of AI enabled radar
@@patrickgalban1110 where is the adversary radar at the Rose Bowl again?
Makes sense.. you don't want enemies getting their radars on it to be able to recognise it later on.. also, it's like the nuke.. if you actually see a B2 in the air, when US never sends it abroad, it means some shit is actually about to go down and it's not some training
They do fly them abroad. They just don’t advertise when they do. They’ve been forward based in Guam and have flown CONUS to South Korea
They had a rotation of them stationed on Guam at Anderson AFB when I was stationed there a few years after 9/11. I refueled them on the flightline. Very awesome aircraft.
They’re in Australia now.
Our adversaries don't use the right types of radar though. It's all old cold war Era radars that are falsely advertised as being anti stealth because of a fluke during the campaigns in Yugoslavia
@@mgkcjk true, but doesn't mean you should be flashing everyone and hoping they haven't developed the tech
I saw a B-2 flying overhead once, still can't believe how good they blend in in a clear blue sky
'Thats a really bad day when the B2 is used.'
Yeah... I've seen Cloverfield, that wasn't a very good day.
When the spicy Dorito comes out, the day is not gonna be good for the bad guys...
americans are the bad guys... wake up bozo.
Or the "good" guys for that matter.
Shades of Amarillo 🤙🏼
Shadow Dorito
Maybe we might find a giant Sphere on the moon once they start flying.
She nailed it with keeping it away from radar, that’s the reason the F-117 ended up getting shot down ultimately. It showed its hand too many times and an ancient soviet radar caught it in a sweep, the biggest part of stealth aircraft no one talks about is actually not using it until you absolutely have to.
The F-117 had its bomb doors open when it got targeted. So that was little bit a special case, because the open bomb bay does have a bigger radar signature.
@@heyyo162 ultimately it didn’t matter that it had its bay open, it was known where the F-117s were coming from it was only a matter of time before a SAM finally got a good lock. There were already close calls prior to the shoot down.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
B2 is expensive and cumbersome to deploy at distance. It requires an impromptu clean room to store and a lengthy preflight
B2s have done 15,000 mile bombing missions. Thats what they were made for. And yes they are difficult and expensive to store and maintain, but thats the cost of having an Airplane that can fly across the world, destroy or nuke multiple targets, and then fly back home completely undetectable for 99.99% of the mission. And don’t even bring up S400s, those systems can’t even detect and stop low visibility cruise missiles that are dropped right on top of them.
@@TrySomeFentanyl that .01% what happened?
@@zachariahadamsthe bomb bay doors opened.
@@zachariahadamsthat's the part where it goes boom
B2's are made for covert missions and when crap hits the fan. 52's completely obliterated Iraq over 50 years after they were made while being escorted..
I saw a B2 in the sky one night 10KMs out in the desert in UAE (Mira Oasis, Dubai). I was SHOCKED😊
Even with the b21 coming i to service we should absolutely not retire the b2s. They are still useful and carry something like almost twice the payload. And i personally think they should convert a couple to stealth tankers.
B2 looks exactly like what it's for. Pure destruction.
Didn’t they just reveal the new B2 model? I can’t remember what it’s called but it’s essentially the B2 but with more capabilities like being able to control a fleet of drones for an escort and a bunch of other crazy stuff
I think you’re talking about the new B-21 Raider
You will not never know everything the B21 is capable of.
The best solution to this is mounting Luneberg lenses to compromise the Stealth and not give it away to adversaries
Then you might as well send a Bone or Buff
OPSEC much?.... We're coming in from the north, below their radar. Elaine Dickinson : When will you be back? Ted Striker : I can't tell you that. It's classified.😊
Can we just have the full interview WITHOUT THE SIGMA MUSIC
I used to live in Warrensburg MO 15miles from whitman. The B2 used to fly over our playground all the time during recess. I even drew it in a few art projects as a child. Coolest plame ever to me because i never got to see a blackbird or concord fly of couse.
I got to see the last flight of the blackbird. well the 72. Was in class and a sonic boom made the supplies in our closet fall. Ran outside and scanned the sky. Saw a tiny black dot. Was really cool. Eventually got to see one at an air and space museum in arizona.
Coming back from StL to Kc I made a detour to drive by Whiteman and chill for awhile, got to see 2 B2's circling the base. One of the coolest things I've ever seen.
I live about a 15 minute drive from Arrowhead Stadium and they used to circle my house waiting for the flyover on game day .
We also see them when we go to shoot at the range . Sometimes 2 to 6 at a time .
They have a unique sound and if they are at certain angles you are hard pressed to see them .
@@darrellruehter9877 go chiefs!!!
@@simonoutdoors4969
Damn straight ! Lol
Interestingly enough, the F-15EX with 22 missiles has a huge cross section. You want that. A big honking flying missile platform that can down and entire wing from far away saying yoohoo to all those fancy X-band radars.
Next you fly a drone with that cross section profile and you keep the enemy with their tail under their trembling legs.
The F-15EX is just a long-range missile truck, it's designed to operate well outside the contested airspace itself so the radar cross-section of it is entirely irrelevant.
It's not meant to go anywhere within 100 miles of enemy fighters. It is meant to carry an absolute boatload of AIM-240 that can be guided onto target with datalink by the stealth fighters that CAN safely operate in contested airspace but can't carry as many missiles themselves (and can't fire any themselves without compromising their stealth). It's also got massive fuel reserves, like the F-15E that came before it, giving it substantially longer operational range and loiter time than other BVR fighters for CAP roles even if aerial refueling capabilities are compromised.
Man these vids would be so much better without the cringe ass sigma music in the back lmao
That is true REMOVE the fucking music.
Why is the full video marked as private? 😢
FYI: the microphone she's talking to isn't placed correctly. It is a side address microphone. Meaning you speak to its side.
yea, would fix that nasally hallow slightly reverberatiung sound. Mainly only picking up reflections and not the original sound wave.
Why have we had so many b2 bombers in the air the last few months? Keep seeing them on flight tracker
I’ve noticed this as well, seems odd.
Because the B21 Raider is going to replace them. So I suppose they can be flown more.
It’s part of the airforce’s combat readiness. There’s always bombers in the air around the clock. It’s also part of like she said. The recent show of force missions and deterrence
I’m willing to bet the flight paths you see them on flight tracker doesn’t really have them crossing a lot of contested airspace
@@kolinmartz yea majority of the time it’s friendly air space. A lot of the times tho they turn transponders off though so I can’t track for long.
Imagine the planes we have that aren’t even acknowledged that we have.
My favorite B2 story was when my pal got an STD from a Knob Nasty he met a Club 66. If you know you know. 509
😂😂😂 you wild dog
B-2 I throught you couldn't see the B-2? What about our new version B-2
Meanwhile I have constant emails about CUI.
Glad I watched this, I’ll not be doing this with my B-2s
B-2's aren't used not because we are afraid to use them but because they are a part of the Strategic Nuclear asset deployment. We only use them at Defcon levels not seen since the cuban missile crisis.
False, we used them in Syria 2017
@@tiberianexcalibur and in their combat debuit in Yugoslavia.
Notice where are both of those locations?
Eastern Mediterranean Sea. That means they are being deployed as a Strategic asset. Read up on cold war military deployment strategy and there you go.
Cant legally say much about the B21 Raider because its hella classified rn
I wonder how much it would cost to restart B1 production. It's fast, decent legs, can carry a large payload, relatively small r.c.s.; It's perfect for a hypersonic delivery platform.
I will never forget growing up in Missouri where most B-2’s are stationed. Getting to see one fly low and silent right over your head in the pitch black of night (looks like a UFO!) or one time having them in actual 3-plane formation flying training sorties all day directly over our house are memories I will never forget 🙂
The Northrop Grumman USAF B-2 Spirit is rather quiet flying overhead. Reasons are both the jet engines intake and exhaust are located on the upper surfaces of the wing. The exhaust is muffled and vents allow exhaust gases to mix with cooler ambient air reducing heat signature.27. mai 2022
That’s exactly how the F-117 got shot down the first time
So they catching pings of the b2 on radar 😮😮😮 America what happened to this is the most stealthy plane in the world claim
Unlucky radar scan. It was the third radar scan from the sam site when normally they only do two, but on the third one the F117 had its bomb bay doors open and when theyre open its minimal radar signature becomes very large and they launched a missile right at it.
@@khalidjordan5903 RCS isnt a static thing, its affected by outside factors
@@ThePointlessBox_ I’m already knowing it’s other factors that go into radar detection… the biggest failure is human error which is good keep going Merica I need my planes at its best when I get into office
This isn't how it was shot down. She is talking about the op for learning to detect radar cross sections by pattern recognition, the Nighthawk went down because it lost its stealth, not from the opfor learning. (As mentioned by others, the bomb doors were open, unlucky timing).
I remember seeing the B2’s in The Sum of All Fears movie and Russia said, “Their stealth bombers have taken off, that is the sign.” When in reality they’d never know if they took off 😂
It’s not hard to know if they’ve taken off. Not harder than any other plane. Just pay off like 3 E-3s on flight line…
Why not? Webcam near the base or dude with the phone or one time sattelite transmitter.
The B-52 is far from stealthy. Yet with upgrades over the decades, It is still operating. It is still feared and respected by enemies and allies around the world
Nobody fear you, especially countries who have hypersonic missiles..
Buff lives forever
That's the whole point. They're not stealthy, so you put them on missions that are about showing off.
Some things, you want to come with fanfare. You want to show the entire world what is about to happen in 4k, and that you give not a single fiddler's fuck what they got to say about it. That's what Grandpa Buff is for.
@@Sinyao ... Yes. It's the flying middle finger of the United States Air Force. It says to the world, FAFO.
I'll never forget the day i seen the b2 fly over chicago, that shit was magnificent
“And that’s why it needs to retire”
Well that escalated quickly
Please. You know the U.S. is serious when Submarines are in the discussion, which we never are because nobody can find us and everything’s classified.
us? you on a sub?
We have a number of subs with nukes too. More than i thought.
My friend flies a B-2 and he often gets asked in bbq how often does he piss and sht on the aircraft, we always laugh on how he recreate those moments but not until i think during the bombing raids on Syria in 2017. His tone changed not the always proud with his stories type. He was asked and he calmly and like staring out of nowhere said that their aircraft was pinged not once but 13 times during the sortie. We asked what is ping and such and he said its when an enemy radar tries to track you and the ping is the warning that they are getting there to almost having a hit on you. We asked that isnt the B-2 the most stealthy and advance aircraft of the USAF and he said well adversaries are catching up.
You're lying and so is your friend...if he isn't a made up "My friend". BS! This comment is as dumb as the woman jawing on about something she is full of shit about!
Bro just made that up lol
The only way he could have gotten pinged 13 times is if he opened his bomb bays 13 times. Either that or some low frequency early warning radar was setting it off
@@joshuasteele343
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I'm awaiting the B-3 with it's mind shifting cloak of uninvisibility. Slated to cost $3 trillion a pop and play unlimited Richard Simmons dance grooves in the cockpit.
If woman starts having this mindset her husband will move mountains for her
shes talking into the top of a side address mic
Crazy how when you constantly fly nuclear capable bombers around someone’s airspace “almost weekly now” they are somewhat hostile towards you.
The 1950’s is calling
It's almost like this has been done in response to certain parties acting with shameless aggressive maneuvers and attempts to tell the United States they cannot operate in international waters. Weird.
@@CMacK1294US got no reason to operate in international waters 12 miles outside another country that doesn’t welcome them.
@@tiberianexcaliburInternational waters start at 24 miles at the closest…
@tiberianexcalibur when some of our closest allies and major national security interests are constantly being threatened of invasion then yes, the USA has every right to be in INTERNATIONAL waters very close to an aggressor communist state.
If China leaves Taiwan and the rest of SE Asia alone, Russia leaves Ukraine, and North Korea stops threatening to nuke Japan and the rest of the world then maybe the US can finally sit at home and stop being a global military power.
I used the B2 all the time in MW3, such a good killstreak.. ur right, bad day for them
I heard someone say that the US military only retires a weapon when it has something better to replace it. Which makes me think they either have the B21 flying already or something else they aren't talking about.
They've already publicly unveiled and named the B21. They don't do that type of thing until the aircraft is already functional and has completed quite a bit of flight testing.
It may not be officially certified for many things because that's a long and complicated process, but I would be willing to bet everything I own that if something popped off tomorrow the B-21 would be fully capable of being utilized as necessary in an emergency situation.
Funny cause I saw two B-2s land and take off in Croatia about 3 months ago. it was very late , possibly 2-3 in the morning. It was apparently an emergency touch and go stop. I’ll never forget that.
She doesn’t want you to find them but she sure as hell gave you a few places to start looking 😂
This O-6 has no clue what she’s talking about.
Next time, You should get an expert to talk about this. She is just someone who overheard someone talking and is trying to repeat what she heard.
B-2 is the Pickup 🛻 TRUCK for USAF
I feel like this podcast is gonna end up with a War Thunder forum moment
I’m not saying the pilot is wrong, but didn’t USAF say that detecting an aircraft is different from being able to put a missile lock on it. Although I guess the more chances you give them, maybe they’ll get a missile lock signature someday.
Except this is also kind of bullshit, considering we intentionally flew B-2's over Korea in 2013 as an intentional show of force. The point of the B-2 is nuclear deterrence, so you also want them to know you're around sometimes. It's not just the Lancer's and B-52's that are showy sometimes.
I’ve seen them twice flying in the middle of the night really low and both times I thought I was tripping
BUFF loud and proud, its also nice to turn on the broadband jamming as you fly by just to reinforce stealth is not required to pound you to dust
There’s definitely another mystery craft that’s top secret in production
The B1s calling card is the mushroom cloud behind it as it’s entering friendly airspace
so they are used a lot now. which means there are way more hours being put on these airframes. how many do we have? how many hours are left on these airframes? what do we plan on replacing them with?
I’ve seen a b2 in person. That thing makes me believe in aliens.
The greatest thing to fear is what you can't see.
The B-2 is so terrifying there's nothing and then it's there flying over you and nothing else.
I saw a B2 in Denton Texas it was super low and just looked like it was hanging in the sky didn’t even look like it was moving
"Thats a really bad day when the B-2 is used..."
Yeah, for the enemy
Ma'am, i was only asking if you liked flying the c17
Spent a year in University 10 miles from Whiteman AFB. Only once did I see a B2 pop out if the clouds but oh so cool to see it! Amazing aircraft. I remember the day they flew nonstop and return from Yugoslavia. Some of my friends knew the pilots who did that mission
They almost exclusively operate at night
She sounds like the perfect little shill for a defense contractor looking to build the next gen bomber.
It’s a bad day for us when the sneaky nuke machine is used? Ya don’t fuckin say
the AFB in the town I live in flies B 1's.... I find watching them fly to be pretty interesting
Back in the early 90’s I was driving south on hwy14 from China Lake towards Edwards AFB, when the B2 was in tests. I didn’t see it until it turned and when it leveled out it completely disappeared from view again. Even in full daytime, it’s difficult to see in visible light. Can’t imagine a computer trying to interpret radar signals and accurately ‘type’ such a small signature.
Wait... why do you have to be put there and showy in the arctic circle?
What's there to be showy about
One of the bad things about the B-2 is that you’ll have to expand your driveway for it.
We better not retire the B-2 best sneak bomber I've ever seen
This is why we need a replacement for the B-1 that has similar characteristics but improved capabilities to complement the capabilities of the B-2 and B-21.
Would i be correct in assuming thats what happened to the F117?
What are they able to do with a cross-section the size of a marble?
Intercept with fighters. Anti air can see stealth but cant "lock" it making its missiles useless. Most systems don't just use radar but combine with infrared and in IR stealth shines like anything else. There is a reason america doesn't fly jets over rival airspace anymore. The adversary can and will learn to detect and overcome your advantage if you let them. All that being said steal is still amazing and there is a reason stealth tech is gaurded on the same level as nuclear tech.
I heard another military youtuber saying that same thing about rocket launches as a show of force. Every time you do it someone is studying how you do it.
it's a bad day when the b2's out:
proceeds to flyover stadiums monthly.
people below the b2 after this video at a stadium:
OH AH FUC-
I still don't get why they use them? Video cuts short....
It's kinda sad when even the military isn't immune to that horrible affection that is the vocal fry.
The other tactical bit is the scare factor. If you have stealth craft flying by your airspace it means your testing air defense for weakness or its a possible attack. It raises all sorts of alarm bells.
Rattling a saber makes noise, drawing it is quiet
Spirit of missouri was shot down over Serbia and crashlanded in Croatia. They tool it of the roster and made a new one, showing it the first game 2 years after the war. The same old tech with a twist that destroyed f117 did the b2.
Thats why the b21 is already in production, even though theres like 4 videos of the plane on the internet