2023 Lexus ES vs Toyota Camry Full Review: Biggest Differences and Updates
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Today, Dustin from Performance Lexus is reviewing the Lexus ES vs the 2023 Toyota Camry! Which car best suits your lifestyle?
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I would have compared a base Lexus ES and compared it to a loaded Camry which would put equipment & price more comparable. Nobody goes from a base Accord to a Lexus. Because the base Lexus inherently comes more loaded than any base Accord, you're comparing apples and oranges.
Thanks for the feedback! It's been a little tougher to get certain models of Toyota's to compare so we only had access to this package Camry at the time! However I'm hoping in the future that we can compare a more comparable package!
You are correct, Honda's upper tier is Acura and Toyota's is Lexus. Most would compare the Accord to the Camry as they are on the same platform. Here he is comparing 2 vehicles from the same company in regards to sedans. Signifying that a fully loaded top trim Camry could be in likeness just as good as a Lexus ES ??? base level trim or a bit better. The cost difference and vehicle materials often separate the common vehicle from the more luxurious or sporty vehicle tier. Therefore, the common Honda Accord nor the Toyota Camry is no match to a Lexus ES ??? sedan. We could compare the Lexus ES ??? to the Acura Integra.
I agree with you 100%. Really strange comparison.
@@richscott2483what in the hell are you rambling on about?
Stupid comparison
Thanks for your reviews, they helped us decide on an ES 350, we're looking forward to it !
These are both very good vehicles. They each serve more or less the same purpose. I happen to own a 19 es 350 and I can tell you it is a superb car. I have driven multiple camrys and they are really great if you are a little price sensitive. Either way, you will be happy.
I changed from a 2020 Toyota Camry Executive, which is a very good car and I was very satisfied with it. The Lexus is literally better in every way, a true Premium luxury sedan. The engine, gearbox, controls, hi-fi, materials, sound dampening, chassis, real Premium feeling of a much bigger car. I can say that I have never been so satisfied with a car and it does not even occur to me to exchange it for another one, both 300h models are equipped with the Lexus ES Prestige plus, I will exchange them for Luxury in 1-2 years. Now I understand why more than 90% of Lexus buyers will never buy another car again ☺️
Love that! Congrats on your decision and thank you for watching!
Question, in 2025, will you finally have an option for AWD and Hybrid F sport performance@@PerformanceLexusNiagara
They use the exact same transmission and engine.
Yeah, the ES is getting a huge update and facelift so expect tons of new things for it including how all the Toyota hybrids now also being AWD, if you want better, upgraded, updated ES 300h hybrid with AWD, wait for it. They will reveal it soon, we might even get ir in 2025 early 2026
My 2002 ES300 4th gen ES shared the Camry platform. Starting in 2013 (6th Gen) the ES350 used the Avalon platform
I owned this exact model ES and it's a great car.
I might as well just pay extra for the ES…you get a better built car with a more luxurious interior and more powerful engine.
Love that idea!
Buy cpo used.
How can you compare a Camry 4 cylinder to ES 350 that is only a V6?
Use to have es 350 base model , now i have 2023 Camry se nightshade which is very cool car but if you can afford Lexus definitely go with Lexus
What made you go with the Camry from your Lexus , what issues did you come across or Icks
@@sergioramirez1693 money moneyyy Lexus es 300h is obout 50k , but overall camry hybrid is decent car
@@vahagnkarapetyan1162 Did your Lexus have any rattles or other noises?
@joelthorne7434 I see some great deals on used es350h. That would have also been a great option. I'm considering one myself.
IT depends on our budget & choices if we can afford pricy $50k Lexus ES 350 & much lowered $30k Toyota Camry w/ almost the same comfort driving machine. If we can afford the 50k go ahead. But if we can't afford 50k go to Toyota Camry also almost the same performance of the Es lexus 350.
Greetings mechanical engineer and engineering project manager from a big three firm here is my take . #1 you should have done a comparison between a BASE Lexus ES 350 and a CamryXLE. overall though good comparison
I am 40 and this is my 4th Camry and next car will be an ES 340.
First of all slight differences- the Camry has slightly more head room but the Lexus has the advantage in front and rear leg space.
Both are smillar improve the Camry CLE is $35000 the base Lexus ES 350 is $38,000. The base LE is $25000 but it’s bare of the bars
I say since it sits only $3000 more might as well get the base ES 350 OR you could have option B.
F Sport is a bit more about $7000 but if you get it just 2 years used; you can get 30 percent off that MSRP. I have seen 2-3 year old F sports go for 42000,45000 and base go 3800
Nobody will mistake the F sport for a Maserati or a Porsche but it does make it fun to drive.
I highly recommend the F sport so it is not your grandmother Lexus
I say stick with the Lexus ES because the engine has a better performance it’s the time tested V6
If you want to get a V6 on a Toyota Camry you’re going to be paying the price of Alexis and ES anyways so you might as well just get the Lexus
You could also up for the hybrid version but I wouldn’t recommend this because although you get 44 to 45 miles per gallon, it goes 0 to 60 seconds in 8.1 seconds at least the ES 350 even the non-F sport one goes 0 to 60 and 6.5 seconds
Honestly even the base ES 350 without the F sport is fine the sport gives it some suspensions and performance and handling you get that sporty fun vibe.
How do I know this because my friend is owner and manages Alexis dealership in Las Vegas he lets me test drive new Lexus and Toyota vehicles for100 days and write a 10 page report
Like I drive the GX 500 overtrail + 20204 that is not yet out in the market
I love your review
Thanks so much for watching and for the feedback!
Camry feel smaller inside, but I do like that you can get it without a sunroof, so i don't bump my head on the ceiling, but wish you could get it with better sound proofing, glass,
If you’re more into comfort Lexus is the way to go. Camry has also a comfy ride unless you get the TRD because it has the stiffer suspensions. For me Camry is good enough.
Lexus ES is a much more attractive looking vehicle than the Toyota Camry.
Yea.. i`ll pay $2 for that looking.
Thanks for sharing your video last year i went to milton toyota to buy a used 2018 camry SE 4 cylinder very nice to drive i used to owned a 1998 camry V6 XLE very smooth but it is a body roll when i turned but the 2018 camry SE very comfortable and firm no body roll i think because of the suspension is better than the 1998 camry ok take care bye from milton Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
Thanks for watching!! I definitely agree that the 2018 Camry has way less body roll than those older generations for sure! Milton is not too far, so if you ever decide to upgrade to a Lexus make sure you pay us a visit!
You missed on one: open and snap close both trunks. Unfortunately the one on the ES sounds much more cheap then the one on the Camry. It is also the shortest one and the most unpractical one as the Camry's is much more wider
Went from IS350 to ES350. More room and smoother ride, but handling is very different. You hug the road with the IS, but float over the road with the ES. I really like the look of the new Camry, but not a fan of 4 cyl engines.
Just bought an f sport es 350 omg way better then German engineering
omg i was waiting for this comparison as i just bouth es300h yesterday 2023 model😂😂❤❤❤❤
Good on you. You will love the hybrid. I have the ES300h, Ultra Luxury trim with additional options. Love the car and amenities. Getting 42+ MPG mostly city driving (short trips). I had her ceramic coated three days after we got her home and it's well worth it. Find an Independent person (detailer) that will come to your home and it will save you money.
@@randy74989 i got two lexus. lexus ux250h 2023 and es300h 2023.😂😂 .i love both of them
@@randy74989 anyway thank you
I bought my ES300h a month ago and loving it. The drive was so smooth and stable. When you need speed, the car will give you a boost. Nice and quiet from the inside while driving on the freeway. I get around 44 mpg, mostly freeway.
The ES shares the same platform at the Avalon. I heard that this was changed from the Camry Platform 10 years ago.
The ES is super smooth.
Yes you’re correct. My 2002 ES300 4th generation shared the Camry platform. Starting in 2013 (6th Gen) the ES350 used the Avalon platform
Would love the Camry with turbo i4, without hybrid
I have an SE Nightshade hybrid.
I love my ES ❤ ! As described , the ES is a Camry in a tuxedo .
But how do they drive ???
I have a 2007 camry xle and i love the car. Very durable
Es sind zwei super Autos.
Der Toyota ein Alltags
alles könner.Viel Auto zu
einem sehr guten Preis.
Der Lexus ist ein Flanierer
für Menschen die Luxus
wollen.Vermutlich das
Beste Auto der Welt in
seiner Klasse.
Egal ob Toyota oder Lexus
nach 500000 Km laufwn
sie beide noch und können
es verdoppeln ohne auch
nur einmal den Fahrer im
Stich gelassen zu haben.
Das ist Qualität.
Should compare lexus es 350 ultra luxury to the camry xle
Thanks for the comment! I definitely was hoping to film the XLE however it's been hard to get my hands on one! Perhaps a video for the future!
Sad they discontinued the Avalon to see a comparison
What I would’ve done and what I’m looking for is I would’ve compared a base Lexus ES 350 to a fully loaded Toyota Camry the price difference isn’t that much between the two it’s about $4000
That had to be a Canadian Camry. The U.S. SE version has silver and black 18" wheels (these were from an LE model) and it has a self-supporting hood. Also, a 4 cyl. engine is availaable w/o AWD. A 6 cyl. engine is available, too. Not a bad video but the presenter is quite the novice.
I mean the license plates literally say Ontario..
Granted it's not made anymore, but the Avalon was the Toyota equivalent of the ES.
Lexus ES 350 is at same
Class level as the Avalon not the Camry.
I owned a Toyota Camry prior and now I own a 2023 Lexus ES 350 and I cannot compare.
Lexus is a great and luxury car.
You forgot to mention that the Camry is available in all wheel drive if you get the 4 cyl
Ahh yes! I did forget about that! Thanks for watching!
This comparison would have been more relevant when the ES was still based on the Camry platform, not the now discontinued Avalon
No one in the real world cars about platforms. They’re looking at two comparable vehicles within the same physical dimensions.
People do care ( not cars ) about platforms and parts.
Why do you think Ford Fucked up Jaguar, because they started building Jaquars on Ford platforms.
Why were Ford Lincoln Mercury doomed, virtually the whole product line.
The ES was, for many years a clone of the Camry with some wood and leather for a few thousand more, and the performance was identical. Not anymore, hence why this comparison is not as relevant as it use to be.
@@dontdoxmebro Toyota made a conscious decision to build the ES on a different platform; Avalon, to distant it from comparisons with the Camry
Feel like the Camry can do without the fake side vents.
I have a Lexus ES300 hybrid 2015. The best car I ever driven my life. Love Lexus forever however, expensive. I think I need to get a second job to afford to buy a new one in the future hehehhe
Great to hear that you love your 2015 ES 300! I'm sure it will last a long time anyway! Thanks for watching!
Project Engineering Manager here on my 4th Toyota Camry. I am waiting for 2025. Lexus question for you, in 2025, are you going to have a Hybrid AWD version? If Lexus comes up with a Hybrid AWD F Sport Performance and Handling, I don't care if it is $50,000 I will buy it. Both are great cars but I prefer the lexus. If you look at the base le and compare it to the base Lexus the price difference is noticeable about $12,000. However, there is not much of a price difference between the luxury XLE 35,000 and the base Lexus ES at 39,000. I will drive this car for many miles and for 8 years so I need something reliable yet luxurious.
Hi there! Thanks for watching! So I haven't found any official release yet, however I do think with the next fullmodel change. Lexus might collaborate the IS and ES models together for an all wheel drive platform. HOWEVER right now this is just speculation. I do hope it happens!
@@PerformanceLexusNiagara Lexus might collaborate with the IS and also the Toyota Camry I heard that in 2025 the Camrys will hate AWD. If that is the case One would assume since they have the same platform, if the Camry has it, the Es will as well
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does the Camry have a cd player?
Only vhs sadly
@@mateusznikicik8770 gosh, that's too bad... I was hoping to watch DVDs, at least, maybe even blurays, while driving.
I own an Avalon. ES has been ON THE AVALON platform/chassis since the late 1990's. ES completely went to Avalon Chassis after 2006 and has no similarity to Camry but Avalon as far as the chassis.
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Wym 😂 the 2002 camry and Lexus es are nearly identical. Maybe top 2 though
The base model camry is great value for money, now the Lexus is a luxury car so for me the comparison is not fair .
"The mirror shape doesn't create any more aerodynamics but it looks like it does, which is important." Ummm... no, no it isn't, at all.
I got a 21 XSE Camry and it has more features than the 350 (some trim levels).
The XSE Camry is very well equipped for sure! Great choice! Thanks for watching!
Love the XSE but damn that 4cyl is noisy. Its better with the 6 for sure. TRD Is nice with the V6 but its an LE V6. Add the Premium package to the ES and its no comparison.
Love my Lexus
Drive them both, and you will see that the Lexus IS a way better car to drive.
They need more power under the hood.
For the money the Camry offers great features especially comfortable seats and heated steering wheel.
what about ride quality? Sure ES beats Camry, this is the major thing to be considered for the price than the only similar looks of the vehicles ..
Very good point! I should have done a video more focused on driving experience for sure!
The ES 350 is the best built sedan for the price you can buy !! It's just that simple !!
Love that! Thanks for watching!
How about apples to apples. No oranges. TOP V6 Camry, TOP Lexus EX. Now that would help. But nice video.
YES! Great idea! I might have to wait for the stars to align where both Toyota and Lexus dealerships have one in stock but if that day comes I'll for sure do a video! Thanks for watching!
ONE CAR TWO BADGES THAT'S IT.
Yep one with premium interior. The 2 are not even close. The Avalon was close to the ES
Should have done a test drive comparison.
Great idea! Maybe I'll do a part 2 to this video and focus on the driving aspects!
Camry SE to save money.
Lexus is a luxury car brand owned by Toyota
I love all that camry plastic 😂
The dash of that camry is simply hideous.
Absolute dealbreaker
I’ll take the Camry and save about ten thousand dollars.
The 2025 Camry is bettter than the ES by a mile.
Performance Lexus. And you're reviewing the Lexus ES. Well, there is nothing "performance" about the ES model. I owned a 2013 ES 300h. I bought it brand new. It was the most boring vehicle I have ever owned. The brakes were useless. I was terrified that it would stop before hitting somebody. The calipers were too small for a vehicle of that weight. The factory claimed you would get 44 MPGs. Not even close. The best I could do was around 35 MPGs. And that was on a good day, with a lot of traffic. Lexus make some great cars, but this isn't one of them. Buy a Camry. But then again, it's overpriced as well.
Your claims are nonsense
Es looks very sexy. Camry looks kinda weird,-
There is no difference same car just different look
I'm 3 minutes in and all you talk about is lines on the grill. Wasted 3 minutes of my life..
Not sure its a good idea to spend 6 minutes on styling.
ES 350 Infotainment system placement is a mess and hard to reach. You are 6'1" with long arms. The interior is not very appealing as the 2023 Camry is in its 6th iteration as an 8th Generation even though outdated still better than the ES 350's interior. My brother is 6'4" does has a difficult time entering the 2023 Camry because its ground clearance is 5.7 inches. If you are taller than 6 feet the Camry maybe not be right for you. Okay! my final verdict is the 2023 Camry XSE V6 fully loaded is the best choice. The 2023 ES 350 interior is a complete failure. To obtain wireless Carplay and Android Auto for the Camry buy the Ottocast U2-X Pro dongle for $99.
Thanks for watching!! That is some great feedback! I don't think I've had too many guests that are 6,4 try out the ES yet, so I will for sure keep that in mind when showing vehicles etc.
@@PerformanceLexusNiagara Thank you! Right or wrong, everyone has their opinion, and sometimes easier to say nothing at all or give a compliment. I have never been in a Lexus vehicle but I suppose when the opportunity arrives I will. I realize that RUclips offers many advantages and also can be discouraging due to competition for viewership. Maybe you will get some deserved help from a willing sponsor to allow you to develop further. The Topic, your Presentation, clarity, precise dialog, and having very good video editing skills can only enhance and attract a larger audience who hopefully commit to becoming a subscriber. I believe everyone deserves a chance to better their lives. I subscribed to your channel. You're welcome. Wish you the best. Do the things you are passionate about, be with family and friends, be happy, stay well, and may you have much success.
Soo the Lexus is just pretty much just a more expensive Toyota
That Camry is gorgeous!
Some people love to spend money for a label.....BOTH TOYOTA ENGINES.
Nah the lexus ES is superior. You just a bum
"Both Toyota Engines". and how is that a bad thing? Lexus is Toyota. Should they Put in A garbage unreliable BMW or Mercedes engine or stick with the reliable 2GR-FKS ? I hear this stupid comment all the time from people who don't own either car. There is a night and day difference between both. sorry to tell you. Its not just the engine.
Both are the most basic, middle class, middle aged, sex deprived, i only care about getting from A to B sedan than any other vehicle on the road.
😂😂😂
Totally, I’m only considering them because the German brands are fun, they put a smile on your face but they are just money pits.. Guess you cant have everything
Lexus > Toyota
Amateur hour
Totally
I got a camry because it kinda looks like an ES 350 haha
Thanks for watching! Great choice!
No folding rear seats for an executive car ? My goodness!
His head was clearly touching the ceiling on the back seats of the es lexus.
Very poor compare to the german rivals.
I think the thought was no one was gonna use the car for hauling. I agree though. dumb decision.
White sneakers with that outfit!
It’s the same car the Lexus is a luxurious version of the Camry
That's the beauty of it ain't it? And the Camry is not an ES its based of the Avalon. That was a decade ago but people still stuck in that era
this review is a joke
ES is $15,000 more than the Camry,plus if you drive the ES,people think your an idiot for spending 15k more for a Camry wanna be!
Bunch of verbal diarrhea
Horse compare Donkey