The Handlebar Dilemma
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- Опубликовано: 10 мар 2022
- It was time to update my competition trials bike, so naturally I went for the new Crewkerz bar and stem setup. My favorite competition rider (Jack Carthy) uses this setup, so I was anxious to check them out! The real dilemma came when I had to figure out how far forward to roll the bars. Full commit and roll them all the way, or keep it mellow?
In this video, I tested out three different positions to see which one worked best. This is definitely going to take some time to adjust to, but I'm excited to see how they impact my riding long-term!
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Nice new bar and stem. I’ve been thinking about changing my stem on my comp bike, but current fork is cut at an angle, which would mean I need to replace them also. I want something with a little less rise. I agree with where you left the bar in the end, that’s similar to where I run mine. I see some extreme positioning sometimes, I just can’t do it myself! Enjoyed the content 👍🏾
Thanks so much! I ran into this exact same problem on my Jitsie mod bike. I've heard good things about the Crewkerz forks, but that would've required a special headset and all sorts of messing around to get it right. Feels weird to ride this bike at the moment, but hoping that it clicks soon!
it would be great if you did not compare only how bike feels on back wheel, but also compare other tricks like gaps(to front/back wheel), sidehops, pedalups, front to back. front to back is the most interesting :D
Good call for sure - working on a part two that is going to dive into those moves for sure. Anxious to get the brakes dialed so I can really test it!
Great topic!!!
Thanks! I'm definitely still learning this one for myself, but felt like it would be fun to share the journey with this bike.
Two years have gone by since this one Aaron, the answer is still the same!! Ask Jack Carthy... But then, some old school WTB drop bars would take it beyond with no effort at all!
Ha! I still can't figure out where to put my bars, no one really seems to agree - even over in Europe!
@@SuperRiderTV Frankly, bar positioning, be it roll forward, back or elevation is ever evolving for each of us. There really is no right/wrong way to set 'em. Find a magic spot where trials works with minimal effort, Bazingaaa!!
You could also use a 150mm straight stem and flat bar (like 20 years ago cross country bikes) 😂
i admit i laughed on how you describe the bar angles, because I tried it too. Super weird feelings but best to set on the general use....
Haha it felt so strange at first! Slowly starting to adjust..
@@SuperRiderTV on my first ride on a pure trials bike, all my experience about mtb and bmx were defeated. As if, I haven't ridden a bike. But takes time to fully understand different setups specially that I am a short guy on 26 inch bike.
Totally agree. When I finally got my first competition style bike, I had to relearn (or give up) some of my favorite techniques.
i feel you, i just couldn't say it... nice!
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Over rotation can give reach issues. Pogos like a dream (pogo stick?) but other moves are spoiled. If lifting & swinging the backend is important, bias forward. If popping the front up is important then bias back. About 15degs either way should be noticeable with midpoint being in line with the stem. Beware wrist ache, these machines hammer your wrists 🤙
Good call for sure - so anxious to get some time on this modified handlebar setup. Feels like a big learning curve, but I know it'll be worth it once I settle back in!
@@SuperRiderTV definitely worth persevering. For what it’s worth, anyone learning to ride both styles needs to be chilled about the different feel between a street trials and these contraptions. Each has its operating mode, related but different. Best example is the bunny hop. Street bike it’s almost automatic. Stock bike it’s plain odd or a no but you find a different way is simple. However, no question in my mind that learning both styles expands both styles.
Agreed. I’ve been riding both for a while - but a big change I recently made was to focus on 26” wheels, no matter what style. I think the 24” and 20” bikes were holding back my riding overall, since I was switching between them so often and never really getting comfortable.
If you have the same tutorial about stem, I still wonder the size i should pick and the degree
Charlie Rolls has a really good breakdown on bars and stems on his Patreon. He convinced me to go longer and roll my bars further, and the end result was surprising to me. I thought it would make the bike feel longer, but somehow my wheel swaps actually got better and the bike felt more stable. Total opposite of what I would have thought.
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This is not something we normally do with MTBs but I got the point. In other words, MTB riders are forced to exert a lot more power and balance when they are on back wheels. Well, maybe I'm just making a convenient excuse for my lousy back-hops.
I did something similar for my MTB, but instead of rolling it forward, I experimented with different riser bars to get the maximum results. In a similar way, it was interesting to find out how much the different angles and rises could make a difference on the riding.
I believe there could be a profit of rotating the bar "backwards" on a long high rised stem. Because you kinda have a long leverage, but you apply a force at a shorter shoulder (I'm not sure I can even explain it in my native language).
But I don't see a point of rotating the bar down (over a line with a stem). This way you kinda cancelling a bit of a rise.
I think everything changes a bit once you get on the back wheel, especially when it comes to rise. Making this video was a big experiment to find the best spot for me, but everyone has their own preference. I’ve never seen a trials bike with bars rotated backwards - but then again, until Jack Carthy came along, no one rotated their bars this far forward. We’re always looking for the next great idea! 🙌
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You are way to small for that setup.
What do you recommend?
HI. That real long bike with the mega highriser bars are way to large for your body. Better get a short 26 or ride 20 inch. By watching your video i saw that you couln't get your upper body over the bars to do stuff live coust because of the massive distance.