Seeing Dallas like this is devastating. He always seemed so brave and heroic, even up to the second he was captured. Here he is begging for his life to be ended.
What? If he had listened to Ripley ONCE none of this would have happened. Dallas ignored quarantine protocol, let Ash keep the Alien and dismissed the ship's damage when she tried to warn him they needed more repairs.
Sarah G. Moore yes, I agree that he shouldn’t have commanded Ripley to break protocol. At the same time though I couldn’t say what I would do in his position. They were at work, I feel like if following a work rule would cost me my life I’d probably break it myself. He made a dumb mistake keeping the alien that there’s no justification for. What I was saying in my previous comment is that this scene is so jarring because Dallas was stoic, confident, and given the situation chilled out the entire movie but in this scene he is visibly is pain begging for someone to end his life. It’s difficult to see.
Dauda András That was the point, Ridley Scott really wanted to get across the point that these people weren’t superhero’s or really exemplary in any way. They were just working joes making a paycheck.
@@someordinarydude9147 I dunno they seemed all about following the rules when it came to checking out that beacon, plus I've always wondered how much Dallas knew about that special order involving the crew being expendable because Ripley had that figured out pretty much within the first minute of being captain. Plus Cocooning Dallas didn't really make a lot of sense seeing as how the Alien was just killing everyone else, if it Cocooned Dallas you'd think it would've Cocooned Lambert, and possibly Brett too, I could see it killing Parker because he wouldve put up quite a fight, but without a queen to lay eggs to make more aliens cocooning really makes no sense, unless the alien was planning to pilot the ship back to LV426, but I don't even think the animal has thumbs Focker.
@@djones2170 It did cocoon other crew members. I’m also not saying that they weren’t professionals, I’m saying that when shit hit the fan they weren’t the type of people ultra attached to their jobs or roles. They would make the more humanistic choice over one that puts the corporation first. The thing about Dallas knowing doesn’t make sense, if he did he wouldn’t of been one of the first people to go to the beacon. He would of let someone else go and get killed. He wasn’t high up in the company or rolling in the dough. He would not have been on board for death for corporate greed.
This is a really powerful scene, but anyone who has watched it in context - as part of the film - will understand immediately why it was cut. It kills the pacing of the escape scene stone dead. The whole ship is literally a ticking bomb at this point - it made no sense for Ripley to be in a desperate hurry to get away, then suddenly take 5 minutes to stop in her tracks.
@@EyeMixMusic Going back and forth to try and stop the self-destuct, hiding behind corners to see where the Alien is... You do understand what "fast paced" means right?
I feel like this could have fit if they'd jammed it in RIGHT BEFORE she started the self-destruct sequence, after finding Lambert and Parker. Pin it in there as her taking a different route to avoid where the Alien MIGHT be, and stumbling across this. That way it doesn't kill the tension of the escape, but still has the affect of "solidifying" Ripley in her new role as the hardened survivor.
I love the original film. However I never liked the scene with the Alien blocking Ripley's path to the shuttle and then she goes back to stop the destruction sequence. I think the film would have been for more terrifying if Ripley, Lambert, and Parker came across this scene together before they split up. This would have made Ripley going to start the destruction sequence while Parker and Lambert gathered the supplies for more intense. Kane's death with the chestburster is horrific and shocking. When they see that the Alien takes you to be slowly tortured by being changed into another egg is just as dreadful and extremely frightening. Then the pace for the rest of the film is non-stop. When I saw the director’s cut of Alien I felt the film was more terrifying than the original.
@@dwleroy The peek around the corner and the frightened look she has immediately after seeing the alien is one of the best shots in the film, and worth it for that on its own. Also her trying in vain to stop the autodestruct is a great watch.
Agreed. Instead of this happening during the self-destruct sequence, it should have been what convinces Ripley that blowing up the ship really *is* the best course of action.
It’s too bad the scene didn’t fit in the climax of the movie. The perfect scene placed in a bad spot. And Sigourney Weaver’s performances are so believable she perfectly balances between being a determined badass and on the brink of a panicked breakdown at all times. It really makes the movie more terrifying seeing a genuine human reaction even in such a brave protagonist
They could’ve used this as the impetus for her to blow up the ship. She sees this and is so unnerved, she decides she’s just going to blow everything up.
This is one of many reasons why Alien is one of if not my most favorite Horror movie of All Time! And in my top mentions of GMOAT (greatest movie of all time)
this actually gives the alien hive more of a purpose, it's this giant organic machinery that you strap someone to and it partially assimilates them to turn them into an egg, slowly, while alive. Scarier than a queen, although not as efficient since you need two hosts to make an egg and grow the parasite.
It also adds a new interpretation to the space jockey scene as the cocoon resembles the almost bionic binding that surrounded it. Taking the film on its own and especially in the context of 1979 its the fear of the unknown that haunts the viewer forever. Still my favourite horror movie of all time.
@@jj80808 I doubt the "space jocket" - the Engineer - was being cocooned, doesn't make sense that it would take so long, as he was like that for quite a while.
@@SStupendous I really didn't think about the Elephant nosed Space Jockey. Your absolutely 100% correct. Cocooning seems like different people were calling the movie direction at the same time, and later on.
@@amqru I have no idea. It must have the ability to reconstruct flesh. I do know some xenos are able to molt into a queen in the absence of one. What I'd like to know is how it made all of that organic growth on the walls. It's like a habitat changer for them. The exist to further their own existence and breed.
@@MrRepoman197 that's actually exactly how it works. They re-utilize biomass to create the eggs and face huggers. There's a reason why the facehuggers look like two hands pressed together and splayed out. That's quite literally what it is; two human hands fused together with additionally incorporated biomass, along with spinal cord to serve as the tail for balance and additional grip.
I never thought Xenomorphs were that terrifying until I saw this. The way they breed is excruciatingly painful to those they use as breeders. I would rather be eaten alive than slowly morph into an egg. UGH!!
Me tooo i was shocked, i heard stories about people morphing into cocoon but i nevere believe in that and now... I will watxh this movie again, tonight and i will find with this scene or maybe i will come back here.
It’s in the novelization by Alan Dean Foster. I first read it when I was a teenager in the 80s. It’s worth a read if you’re a fan, some great stuff that isn’t in the movie because of cuts.
It's been a while since I read it, but I think in the book there are 3 people in the Alien hive and Lambert is the one least "eggified" and asks to be killed. Dallas is more eggified, like Brett is in this scene, then there's an actual egg, assumed to be Brett. Having all 3 stages shows the reader/viewer the life cycle of the Aliens- living captive ---> egg --> facehugger --> chestbuster ---> Alien (xenomorph). This version 1) Allowed a single alien to multiply and create more eggs and 2) Really solidified Geiger's horrific vision of the alien.
@@Keltibarian Went back and checked, it's all correct except Lambert isn't there yet.But it does indicate Dallas is cocooned and Brett looked like one of the eggs from the derelict ship (although Ripley doesn't know that). Page 245 of the paperback.
I understand why they cut this scene. The climax of this film is very tight, and follows a swift pace. This scene does detract from that tension, but in my opinion it remains possibly one of the most terrifying aspects of the film.
If they put this before she begins the self-destruction sequence, it's perfect. ALSO, the scene was clearly unedited dude! There are jumps in the film, and stutters in the action. If they had edited it to be part of the flow of the action, removing the obvious moments when it was roughly put together, there would have been no slow down in the action at all.
Stylistically eggmorphing is far superior to the queen. Makes it so that the alien has no purpose besides inflicting pain and terror. Queen makes it seem like aliens are some sort of a beehive that has a purpose.
THIS is apparently the scene in which Ripley was remembering in Aliens when the Marines came across that female colonist cocooned & she kept saying "Kill me!" As she heard Dallas say to her here! That makes that scene more chilling. Next time you watch it think of THIS!
Yes! And equally - when she says it's too late, they're already being cocooned like the others, she's talking about something she knows about from this experience, not just hypothesising.
@@BurtonMKelsoThat's nice but eggs are actually created by a queen, not by dissolving people into eggs. Therefore it cannot be canon. Not only that, but deleted scenes in any movie are never canon, what is canon is the final product that the writers, directors and producers all deemed to be canon. The first draft of a book and the final book will be completely different, is the first draft also canon to you? No matter the contradictions? Why is it different with deleted scenes?
@@cadkls Yes, a first draft is canon. That’s been layed down as an official rule in The Universal Declaration Of Story Telling And World Building Of The Collective Human Imagination, which was penned by Charles Dickens and Jrr Tolkien in 1757. They further elaborated this in letters written to each other in 1985. Extremely common knowledge.
💯 yes.....soooo brave. She did what others could never do. When this movie came out it was like holy 💩. With Sigourney Weaver playing Ripley I don't see another and I hope they will never attempt a remake. There should only be one with a possibly a part 2 (original)😀
I have mixed feelings. It stops the pacing dead in its tracks, and Ripley spends a LOT of the self destruction countdown time here. On the other hand, it's a haunting, quiet scene, with Dallas' desperate and plaintive wails. The way it's played suggests to me that he's in great pain and that asking takes all he has, but that the transformation itself is a painful, horrific, uncaring process.
I feel like if it had been shot so that it happened before she sets the SD countdown, it would have been the best of both worlds, allowing the powerful scene without killing the fast pacing that comes with escaping the ship.
@@petery6432 In the book it occurs before the countdown. No idea why anyone assumes it should appear in the middle of the countdown, where of course it would be totally dumb and kill the pace.
People do strange things when they experience terror, like for instance Lambert trembles with fear over the sight of the Alien, so she doesn't jump out of the way
It slimed him with its hands when it grabbed him in the tunnels. Slim and goo sweat and drool out the xenomorph body. The slim hardens like a spider web. Then the xenomorph internally infects him with enzymes with the point of its tail. The enzymes breaks the body down into a metamorphosis this, turning him into an egg.
@@0b6dm68 yes. I’ll break it down in a National Geographic Channel form Dallas is a human who’s about to be unsuspecting prey for the xenomorph. Xenomorph grabs him in the air ducts. It’s hold is 20 times that of a chimpanzee making it impossible for Dallas to move. It’s body constantly sweats and stools out mucus slime enzymes which become thick rapidly when exposed to oxygen. Getting all over Dallas as he is dragged back to its hive. Upon arrival, the creature then slithers its tail from behind Dallas’s neck. The tip of the tail is the xenomorph stinger. Quickly it penetrates it’s prey once in the desired area and releases fluids which carry maggot like creatures to eat away from the inside out similar to new age screwworms As they do, the body begins to break down allowing the growth of a new yoke as mass is molded into the hive itself which is alive, morphing the yoke, coating it with a shell casing.
2:28 - Ripley: “Dallas!” 2:37 - Dallas: (groans) 2:43 - Dallas: “Kill me”. 2:50 - Ripley: “What did it do?” 3:04 - Ripley: “Brett”. 3:17 - Ripley “I will get you out of here! I will get you on to the shuttle!” 3:22 - Dallas: “No”. 3:28 - Ripley: “What can I do?” 3:30 - Dallas: “Nothing”. 3:57 - Dallas: “Kill me”.
I'm pretty sure the 3:30 is "Mercy", rather than "Nothing.", with Dallas trying to let Ripley see that killing him is a mercy rather than trying to save him
As far as I'm concerned, I see no reason why this can't be canon. Xenos are meant to breed fast and set up hives, if no Queen is present the lone wolf Xeno can simply create eggs through humans while waiting to mold into the Queen stage, where it would then mass produce them.
Eggmorphing was originally to be witnessed during the climax of Alien, when Ripley discovers Dallas and Brett cocooned in the Nostromo's hold, with Brett being transformed into an Egg. The entire sequence was cut as director Ridley Scott felt it slowed down the final act of the film. However, the scene did appear in the movie's novelization, and was referenced in the novelizations of the sequel films.
, it couldn't become a queen: it's lifespan according to one source was a matter of weeks or even days. And it was male. A male is a drone. Finally, to produce a queen, would need royal jelly, and the alien would very carefully select a perfect " specimen" to impregnate, which happened to Ripley in Alien3.
@@MidnightatMidian , I have to give you a thumbs up on that. When I called it male, it was because when the embryo is implanted inside a living host, it takes on the characteristics of it's host: if it's male,it has male characteristics, ( it raped Lambert with its tail) or a dog, it runs on all fours ( Alien3), just to name a few. But you're right, it was actually an it. I just wanted to clear it up.
Well, we never actually saw anyone egg-morphing. It looked more like what Aliens did, where Xenomorphs captured humans to be used as hosts for the newly born units. Eggs were already onboard the Sevastopol, but since only one Xenomorph entered the premises and started hunting people one by one and there were no traces of Alien Queen, it is to be believed that people were in fact going through egg-morphing. A strange combination of both movies.
@@markocvetkovic6877 the devs confirmed there was a queen "down there somewhere in the cacophany of sevastapol station" but didnt want her to be seen as they wanted to emulate the feeling of the first movie more than the second. If you listen closely you can aparntly hear her in the hive part of isolation. I think that when one Xeno is alone it may egg morph a few victims and then one of them may turn into a queen. Fun to theroize about tho!
@@a_catsThe 2010 video game Aliens vs Predator has precisely that happen in the Alien story arc. The alien you play as, “Specimen 6” eventually molts into a queen as a replacement for the previous queen who was killed. Unsure how canon that is though. 2003’s AVP: Extinction for the PS2 also featured praetorian aliens being able to molt into queens, but only if they originated from pure strain eggs/facehuggers
As a young Alien fan back in the 80s this scene had mythical status , we heard about it but never saw it, it's a great shame it was cut, this was Gigers take on the Aliens reproduction cycle the Queen was Cameron's idea
True. And the immersive experience they provided helped a lot. In France, the first movie is called Alien: the 8th passenger. I always liked the full name but it's wrong. Jonesy is the 8th passenger, the alien is the 9th. We are the 10th. That's how immersive it is.
@bastidface thank you so much I am so glad I am not the only one that considers both Alien (1979) directed by Ridley Scott and The Thing (1982) directed by John Carpenter the greatest sci-fi horror movies ever created as well:).
This scene establishes that the ship has become unsafe and it’s the right course to blow it up. In the theatrical cut seeing the whole ship blown up to kill a single critter only to later find out it escaped with Ripley feels like a huge self-own.
That was actually the entire point. The Alien was smart enough to figure out what was happening and itself went and hid in the escape shuttle DELIBRATELY as a survival instinct. It was the only part of the ship not making much noise. Ripley makes the choice to blow up the ship for her own survival, whereas the Alien hides in the shuttle for its own survival. The point being that at this point in the film, Ripley and the Alien are both attempting to survive. They're alike in that one way. The Alien is acting for its own survival and so is she.
@@colliric also, the reason the alien was slow to get ripely in the shuttle was for many reasons. 1. It didn’t view her as an immediate threat. 2. We can see the goo dripping off it and all over the controls by it. A new hive was in the making.
I feel like if this scene had been kept in the movie (the whole five minutes, not the butchered version we had in the 2003 director’s cut) upon its release in ‘79 then this would have brought the house down. I don’t think ANYONE would have seen a scene like this in a movie before. People would have been running from the theater. The sheer horror of the idea that the Alien not only captures you but sticks you to the wall and turns you into goo as well.
@@joshuastrittmatter4188 when the xenomorph grabbed Dallas, it’s hands smear goo all over him. It’s the same goo that’s scene when he places his hand on the floor in both the theatrical and directors cut. Another scene in both cuts is when the camera focuses on the wall in the tunnel which is dropping a substance. Dallas was practically in its hive. As the alien goo thickens, it restrains Dallas from movie. The xenomorph then injects enzymes that break the body from within. Maggots form and grow from inside which come out the hosts pores. As they feed off Dallas matter, they harden up and form the egg casing. The rest of Dallas is used as a yoke.
Matt 3838 what would have made this scene even more horrific is if Dallas told Ripley that he needs to take a shit real bad. The moment he goes in his pants is when he asked her to kill him. He doesn’t want to turn into an egg with shit in his pants.
No, because whilst this is terrifying and explains why dallas' body or blood weren't found, it would have obstructed the hive related lore behind the xenomorph
Alex Davies that’s why it had to have happened before the self destruct. The hive would have prompt rilpley to go self destruct. 1 xenomorph on earth means the end of the world.
@JR422 000 The concept of a "queen" wasn't a thing until James Cameron did the sequel many years later. And actually a colony with a queen is much less terrifying because it's something with which we are very familiar here on earth (think bees, ants, termites). The idea of a victim being morphed into an egg is completely and utterly alien (pun intended) and therefore a helluva lot scarier, imo.
@@MoonchildDog I agree. Its like Rich Evans said in the Half in the bag Alien commentary "the queen was a bad idea because they gave the franchise a boss. A video game boss"
I read about this scene even before I saw the movie, and it always seemed illogical to remove it, as it both completed the creature's life cycle and provided the final gruesome shock about what the alien was doing with it's victims. I'm glad they reinstated it in the Director's Edition and thanks for uploading it uncut here.
It had patient issues because Ripley is supposed to be in a rush but she spends quite a while in the chamber which wouldn’t make sense because the ship is soon going to blow up and you can’t just waste valuable minutes of the movies time
@@hannothestupid2064 True, and that's what Scott said about it, but as the director's edition showed, it can be done with a bit of careful editing. My opinion is that it was crucial to explaining what the creature was actually doing and how it's life cycle is completed. Without the scene, it simply appears that the monster kills for no reason.
It was removed because it causes the frenetic escape scene to come to a screeching halt. It makes no sense for Ripley to stop dead in her tracks to look at this and take her sweet time to react when she's pressed for time. Had it been placed before the start of the self-destruction sequence (like maybe shortly after discovering Lambert and Parker dead), it wouldn't have impacted the pacing and would've worked wonderfully to reveal more about the xenomorph. But alas, that's not how it was filmed.
@@xen0bia I agree, that would have been better. In any event I think they did a pretty good compromise in the director's edit. I like your pseudonym. Alita rocks!
Completely agree. I read the novel before I watched the movie. And this scene completely terrified me as a kid. It was slightly different tho, the cocoon were more like bags and were hanging from the ceiling.
I think if they could have figured out how to work this into the narrative between the Ash killing and the Alien attack on Lambert and Parker, it would have made a powerful point to the calculated fierceness of the creature as a "predator" to any life form.
I like the Predator reference in resurrection when Ripley 8 beats the mercs and the scientists say some what of a Predator lol and funny how Predator was also owned by Fox at the time
I do not understand the Predator references here. My comment was "predator" as a noun, not a pronoun. That was non-existent in the original story that I am talking about here. All the AVP stuff has nothing to do with the original "Alien" film.
This makes the scene with the thousands of eggs in the derelict more horrifying, until you see Aliens and then it's just "there must have been a queen here."
@@geonerd Yeah, basically a munitions transporter or even a freighter on it's way somewhere. Possibly to delivery or possibly to help launch bioweapons at a target somewhere in the galaxy.
Absolutely chilling and effective body horror scene, but best left as an extra in view of the franchise. Ridley said it slowed down the action in the finale, but it may have been a case where it was simply too horrifying.
No, I don't think they cut it out because it was TOO horrifying for the horror film. It was probably, as Ridley said, it would ruin the pace and believability of the escape scene, and that makes sense. He didn't say that just to hide his real opinion that the scene was too spooky.
It would ruin the pace but interestingly enough, in Aliens, when Ripley saves Newt, there was a sense of urgency that had to be slowed right down and it worked so well. I think it still could have worked and gives even more of a reason to destroy the creature
This scene made this species much more terrifying. That's not to say that the more familiar Queen-based aliens in the second movie weren't terrifying enough, but they were at least more familiar.
I love this scene, maybe if it was featured before the self destruct system scene it may not of slowed the pacing but it’s harrowing seeing Dallas like that and what remained of Brett’s corpse.. even with the Queen introduced in the second film it shows how a drone can survive alone.. love it! I’m so happy they referenced this scene in the novelisation of 3 🤌🏼
After seeing the movie in the theater, I remember flipping through a magazine on the making of the movie. It was fascinating, but there was a picture of Sigourney practicing how to use a flamethrower. I always wondered about that because I didn’t remember her ever using one in the movie. Now I get it (42 years later.)
I first saw the cocoon footage on the old laserdisc issue of Alien & I have to say I actually preferred that version to the more 'final' polished one seen in the 2003 directors cut, it had no music as I recall & the fact you could hear Dallas' eerie whimpering in the dark long before Ripley finds him added to the unsettling nature of it, all that being said, given that this is during the destruct countdown sequence, you can also understand from a narrative & pacing stand point, why Ridley cut it from the og theatrical version.
When this was added into the (so-called) Director's Cut, it was put in the wrong place. In the script it happens right after Ripley discovers Parker and Lambert are dead and before she starts the self-destruct process. So the alarms would not have been going.
True but AFTER she starts the self destruct she doesnt have much time to piss about so you can see why they wanted it before she arms the self destruct. She simply doesnt have 5 minutes to waste like this. So in this case ship about to explode>alarms going off in terms of continuity errors.
@@ryantogo8359 Yup I did you mongoloid. Its a deleted scene. You CANNOT nitpick because the entire fucking reason it was cut originally was because it struggles to fit. Whichever way you slice it they looked at this scene and decided something doesnt work. Now stfu.
@@ryantogo8359 Check your own comments retard. Theyre getting deleted too. 🤣 And yes I obviously did, its just a mentally stunted moron like you cant tell.
This movie scared the hell out of me the first time that I saw it. I was totally not prepared for it. I think the trouble with new movies is that they show you too much in the previews now.
So unfortunate to have had this scene removed from the theatrical release.... It would have brought a very dynamic and disturbing element into the Alien character. Wow, I am so intrigued and blown away by this scene....the utter need of procreation exhibited by the Alien.... It leaves quite an impression in the mind, indeed! yes, I can go on and on. Extraordinary cinematic viewing par excellence!
yeas ago I heard about this delted scene and though the egg morhping was a brillant idea ! so I didn't understand why it was cut out of the movie, watching the very first seconds of this video I understand why. The scene should have been used before the countdown, but maybe it was not possible, too long since I saw the movie I can't tell where I'd have put the scene.
While I understand the more "stoic" acting of Sigourney in the DC version, I still prefer the cut scene on the ALIEN dvd where she was more emotional and crying (which just felt more appropriate for having to kill the last remaining member of her extended family... not to mention: in an earlier script, Dallas was her lover. Granted, you are talking about a relationship that was maybe a few weeks old, but having to burn to death someone you were becoming attached to wouldn't be something you could just emotionally shrug off).
Absolutely the right choice to cut this scene from the theatrical release. With that said, it’s probably one of the greatest and most important deleted scenes of the entire franchise!
They should have kept this scene. Yes, it slows the pacing, but this is so important when it comes to world building. Not to mention how gruesome this sequence is.
@@catadjusterZ He saw the Directors Cut release. It was re-released to cinemas. I watched it on the big screen too. It includes this scene and the airlock scene.
I was shocked the first time I learned he wasn't an animatronic and they actually had the guy up there strapped to the wall. His face is so eerie and creepy looking. Like it's not even the same person we saw earlier.
This is so terrifyingly sad and grim. I felt the agony in Dallas' voice as he was being practically "absorbed" into the encrusted mass surrounding them. It must've been soaking wet and frigidly cold down there too.
This deleted scene is the most disturbing to me as you see can Brett's fate that has now befallen Dallas. It makes what happened to Cain, Parker and Lambert easier to take.
Ripley's actress' acting in this is top tier.You can just see the pain,the sadness and the disgust all mixed together,knowing that burning her friend alive is the only way to end his suffering.
In every Alien movie there's always someone asking to be killed. Here it's Dallas, in Aliens it was the colonist they find in the processing station, in Alien 3 it was Ripley herself and in Resurrection Ripley's clone.
To be fair in 2 and 3, wanting a mercy kill because a creature is about to burrow out of your ribcage and wreak havoc on your friends is a pretty reasonable request
I used to watch this movie alot in late 1989 when I was a teen, and I haven't seen it much since. I always thought all those crewmembers were killed by the alien, but this totally blows my mind to find out only now after all these years that this was the fate of the crew. I can't remember well the later scenes of the film, but if they could've added this in before Ripley set the ship to self destruct, then they should've.
@@martinharris5017 They should've included it in there then. In fact, if this triggered Ripley to blow up the Nostromo, then she need not have turn Dallas into a human torch.
@@germanicelt I don't think there was much human left! However the whole point was that Dallas begged and she could not bear to see him suffer a moment longer. Don't forget this is a horror movie and part of the horror was Ripley having to make some horrific, spur of the moment decisions. I doubt she would have paused to think logically under the circumstances. The other aspect is that she wanted to destroy all that the Alien had done. This was it's lair and she burned it down as an emotional response not a logical action. That's my take on the scene anyhow:)
This scene should have added in Movie but before she started Self distruction, So both Dalles and Rest of the crew members death leaded her to start self district and ending scene makes more sense
I always thought Dallas would have been Cocooned like we see people in Aliens. Never realised this scene existed till now🤯. Imagine the time and effort that went into designing and making the practical effects for this scene, only to end up on the cutting room floor.
Interesting scene, I remember when I was a kid reading the Aliens book and Ripley mentioned about seeing a hive before but on a smaller scale. So this is where, never seen this scene before.
this scene is mirrored in Alien Resurrections when Ripley 8 finds the monster lab where other clones are. The same emotional memory is raised from Ripley to Ripley 8 makes this scene a lot more important.
I actually made an edit of this scene so it doesn't run soo loong. I cut it down to less than half. After viewing it i realized that it was still too long and i cut it down a bit more. Ridley was right, it goes against the fast paced mayhem of RipLey trying to get off the ship. It would have been a good scene "before" all of this. Perhaps after Brett or Lambert or Parker are killed off. Of course all the yellow siren alerts would have to be shut off. That would & should work.
Most of these edits were made strictly for time. In those days, a 2-hour film shipped to the movie theater in 8 big cans of film, costing $1500 per print. Once you get over the 2-hour mark the cost becomes prohibitive. So, even very interesting scenes like this had to go.
Trick missed with this movie is it didn't show how these two were cocooned and at that time the interaction with the Alien while he cocooned them the terror they experienced would make interesting viewing ...
I consider this scene canon myself, it made no sense to cut it out because of pacing when it could’ve easily been edited in BEFORE Ripley starts the self destruct. I like that it gives the Alien more mystery than just “Queen lays eggs” as it suggests to me that when a lone Alien has no hive or Queen it will make one and use humans as the material to make eggs (making way for a Queen) I wish another director picked this idea up again in the sequels as a way to confirm that an Alien can do this to people when a Queen is not present, in my eyes I think slowly being turned into an egg as your internal organs are being melted and digested into another form of matter is a horrific concept.
Good scene in one way, but too slowly paced - just check the age she takes climbing down the ladder, and scouting the chamber. Sudden, shock discovery would have been more punchy. And as others have said, at the wrong point of the movie. Would be better just before setting the ship to self destruct, not before. I can see why Ridley left it out. Even aside from pacing problems the film presents, it also robs us of a horrific imagining what might have happened to Brett and Dallas - and that's possibly scarier even in the imagination than this scene is on screen. I don't think the scene disturbs canon. A warrior drone might be able to slowly produce eggs if necessary with captured prey, and the Queen once born from a specially nurtured egg, is preferred thereafter - being much more efficient herself at creating them en mass.
This "complete" scene is actually comprised of two different versions of it - IIRC, both are from the laserdisc release. That's why you see footage like Dallas' reactions (turning towards Ripley/turning away just before he's incinerated) being shown twice. Even in its truncated form, the scene still throws the pacing off. We don't need the sudden last-minute reveal that Dallas is alive/being converted into an egg, just to kill him off moments later, after it was presumed he died in the vents. Nothing about the creature indicated it had made a hive. Ripley stops what's she's doing, in a tense escape sequence, to saunter around and look at the walls of the hive.
If this scene had occurred before the self-destruction countdown, it would have worked. In fact, it would have given them a legitimate reason to explode the entire vessel.
im glad this scene was deleted because this Aliens or any future movies wouldnt make sense. as because of Aliens, we know that the Xenomorph needs a Queen to lay eggs. and the Xenomoprh( Kanes Son) in Alien- was a drone- not a queen.. deleting this opened up the whole analogy of an insect heirarchy
I wish this scene was kept in.. made the alien even more alien and creepy. It does throw off the pacing and screeches it to a halt, but maybe that just makes it even the more impact full. For Ripley to witness the absolute horror and tragedy, one would imagine that she could be distracted momentarily and her empathy is what stops her briefly from escaping.
This deleted scene and the "spider crawl" scene from THE EXORCIST are legendary. I saw the cocoon scene in a Director's cut and felt it could have worked. Especially showing the nature and evolution of the creature, but it may have slowed down the pace of the film which is just about perfect. The scene of Regan coming down stairs on all fours backwards should have been cut because the idea of all of the HORROR happening in ONE ROOM makes it creepier. EVERY time the audience hears stuff they know when bedroom door opened we will be shocked to shit!! It ruins that Pandora's Box of trouble that worked so well.
IMHO Alien" is more about dread than action or pacing. A slow paced scene with the space ship about to blow up and the possibility of an alien attack in sch environment would have truly terrified the viewer. The fast paced escape was almost like a relief.
When the original movie came out, I read the novel before seeing it. This scene was in the novel and it really stuck in my head. It was THE scene I remembered. I was always disappointed when I didn't see it on the big screen.
This is the raw scene this was also cut down and put in the 2003 directors cut. This 5 minute scene is cut to about 3 minutes in the directors cut the scenes in this without audio are the scenes that were cutout for the directors cut in 2003. And the release cut has none of this
The egg-morphing would have been a better choice, if the movie would not have had a sequel. The morphing explains the Alien species way of reproduction quite simple and logical. Alien 2 / Alien needed two things: 2.) something NEW, that the people have not seen in the 1st movie and 2.) the stereotype of an evil "big boss", some goal for the hero/heroine to defeat in order to achieve a satisfying ending. Killing yet another alien drone would merely be a repetition of the 1st movie. And thus, the idea of the Alien queen was born. I suspect they already planned the sequel by the time they cut the original movie, and that's the reason why they cut the egg-morphing. I personally would not have bothered if both ways of procreation would have been left as canon. Imho, they just did not want to confuse the un-enlightened part of the audience. 🙃
Seeing Dallas like this is devastating. He always seemed so brave and heroic, even up to the second he was captured. Here he is begging for his life to be ended.
What? If he had listened to Ripley ONCE none of this would have happened. Dallas ignored quarantine protocol, let Ash keep the Alien and dismissed the ship's damage when she tried to warn him they needed more repairs.
Sarah G. Moore yes, I agree that he shouldn’t have commanded Ripley to break protocol. At the same time though I couldn’t say what I would do in his position. They were at work, I feel like if following a work rule would cost me my life I’d probably break it myself. He made a dumb mistake keeping the alien that there’s no justification for. What I was saying in my previous comment is that this scene is so jarring because Dallas was stoic, confident, and given the situation chilled out the entire movie but in this scene he is visibly is pain begging for someone to end his life. It’s difficult to see.
Dauda András That was the point, Ridley Scott really wanted to get across the point that these people weren’t superhero’s or really exemplary in any way. They were just working joes making a paycheck.
@@someordinarydude9147 I dunno they seemed all about following the rules when it came to checking out that beacon, plus I've always wondered how much Dallas knew about that special order involving the crew being expendable because Ripley had that figured out pretty much within the first minute of being captain. Plus Cocooning Dallas didn't really make a lot of sense seeing as how the Alien was just killing everyone else, if it Cocooned Dallas you'd think it would've Cocooned Lambert, and possibly Brett too, I could see it killing Parker because he wouldve put up quite a fight, but without a queen to lay eggs to make more aliens cocooning really makes no sense, unless the alien was planning to pilot the ship back to LV426, but I don't even think the animal has thumbs Focker.
@@djones2170 It did cocoon other crew members. I’m also not saying that they weren’t professionals, I’m saying that when shit hit the fan they weren’t the type of people ultra attached to their jobs or roles. They would make the more humanistic choice over one that puts the corporation first. The thing about Dallas knowing doesn’t make sense, if he did he wouldn’t of been one of the first people to go to the beacon. He would of let someone else go and get killed. He wasn’t high up in the company or rolling in the dough. He would not have been on board for death for corporate greed.
This is a really powerful scene, but anyone who has watched it in context - as part of the film - will understand immediately why it was cut. It kills the pacing of the escape scene stone dead. The whole ship is literally a ticking bomb at this point - it made no sense for Ripley to be in a desperate hurry to get away, then suddenly take 5 minutes to stop in her tracks.
Proper sequencing would have made this scene the last bit of motivation she needed to get off the ship.
The pacing was slow as molasses anyway. This scene would have added extra terror to it and made it less boring.
@@M1tjakaramazov Alien was made in a different era and at the time this was a very intense movie.
@@M1tjakaramazov Err...no, that's wrong. The escape scene was very fast paced. You have watched the film, right?
@@EyeMixMusic Going back and forth to try and stop the self-destuct, hiding behind corners to see where the Alien is... You do understand what "fast paced" means right?
I feel like this could have fit if they'd jammed it in RIGHT BEFORE she started the self-destruct sequence, after finding Lambert and Parker. Pin it in there as her taking a different route to avoid where the Alien MIGHT be, and stumbling across this. That way it doesn't kill the tension of the escape, but still has the affect of "solidifying" Ripley in her new role as the hardened survivor.
I love the original film. However I never liked the scene with the Alien blocking Ripley's path to the shuttle and then she goes back to stop the destruction sequence. I think the film would have been for more terrifying if Ripley, Lambert, and Parker came across this scene together before they split up. This would have made Ripley going to start the destruction sequence while Parker and Lambert gathered the supplies for more intense. Kane's death with the chestburster is horrific and shocking. When they see that the Alien takes you to be slowly tortured by being changed into another egg is just as dreadful and extremely frightening. Then the pace for the rest of the film is non-stop. When I saw the director’s cut of Alien I felt the film was more terrifying than the original.
@@dwleroy I ain't reading all that
@@dwleroy The peek around the corner and the frightened look she has immediately after seeing the alien is one of the best shots in the film, and worth it for that on its own. Also her trying in vain to stop the autodestruct is a great watch.
100% agreed. They just put it before the auto destruct sequence and after she finds Lambert and Parker. Simple.
Agreed. Instead of this happening during the self-destruct sequence, it should have been what convinces Ripley that blowing up the ship really *is* the best course of action.
This changes everything because when she goes back to LV426 she knows what that resin tunneling is. Created by the creature.
When Burke tells her there are families on LV426 and she repeats "families" in a hushed, horrified tone. She was thinking about this scene.
It’s too bad the scene didn’t fit in the climax of the movie. The perfect scene placed in a bad spot. And Sigourney Weaver’s performances are so believable she perfectly balances between being a determined badass and on the brink of a panicked breakdown at all times. It really makes the movie more terrifying seeing a genuine human reaction even in such a brave protagonist
They could’ve easily made the self-destruct sequence 10 minutes longer. Problem solved.
Right! Sigourney made such a wonderful protagonist because she was so good at balancing resolve to survive with sheer, panicked terror!
@@ElMistroFerozOr make her have to go down there to get a key or smt to activate the self destruct
They could’ve used this as the impetus for her to blow up the ship. She sees this and is so unnerved, she decides she’s just going to blow everything up.
This is one of many reasons why Alien is one of if not my most favorite Horror movie of All Time! And in my top mentions of GMOAT (greatest movie of all time)
this actually gives the alien hive more of a purpose, it's this giant organic machinery that you strap someone to and it partially assimilates them to turn them into an egg, slowly, while alive. Scarier than a queen, although not as efficient since you need two hosts to make an egg and grow the parasite.
Corpses can be eggmorphed too though, so they could use people who had already been chestbursted to create more eggs
Cocooning wasn't given enough attention in the movie or sequel .
It also adds a new interpretation to the space jockey scene as the cocoon resembles the almost bionic binding that surrounded it.
Taking the film on its own and especially in the context of 1979 its the fear of the unknown that haunts the viewer forever. Still my favourite horror movie of all time.
@@jj80808 I doubt the "space jocket" - the Engineer - was being cocooned, doesn't make sense that it would take so long, as he was like that for quite a while.
@@SStupendous I really didn't think about the Elephant nosed Space Jockey. Your absolutely 100% correct. Cocooning seems like different people were calling the movie direction at the same time, and later on.
the thing i like most about this scene is that it gives far better reason to destroy the nostromo because there might be facehuggers in those pods
That’s actually what’s happening,
The humans are being turned into face hugger eggs
@@Rom-ju5tf how
@@amqru I have no idea. It must have the ability to reconstruct flesh. I do know some xenos are able to molt into a queen in the absence of one. What I'd like to know is how it made all of that organic growth on the walls. It's like a habitat changer for them. The exist to further their own existence and breed.
@@MrRepoman197 that's actually exactly how it works. They re-utilize biomass to create the eggs and face huggers. There's a reason why the facehuggers look like two hands pressed together and splayed out. That's quite literally what it is; two human hands fused together with additionally incorporated biomass, along with spinal cord to serve as the tail for balance and additional grip.
@@monsterfanatic5344 Your description gives me Dead Space vibes and I love it.
I sounded somewhat like Dallas during my last hangover.
Lmaoooo very good
"I'm just trying my hardest to not just throw up right now.....*Blueghh*"
I never thought Xenomorphs were that terrifying until I saw this. The way they breed is excruciatingly painful to those they use as breeders. I would rather be eaten alive than slowly morph into an egg. UGH!!
trha2222 completely unnecessary politics but ok
@@jacknichols8912 LOL.
@Schnake Eyes still just completely unnecessary to bring politics into a video of a deleted scene from alien
You make a comment analyzing an aspect of how a film frightens you and suddenly you get politics. Right...
I honestly don’t know what’s worse morphing or feeling your ribs explode open yeah the morphing is a slow death but debatably less painful
That Alarm background sound always get me !
Its sounds so panic and disturbing at the same time
Yes!! 😩
True scary!
@@trustaman90s It's really the true sign of,"There's no time to fuck around!"
I’m sure Dallas knew this and knew his suffering would soon be over. Then Ripley came along and ended it sooner. Thank God!
Would make a great alarm clock!!!
What the.
Been a fan of this movie for forty years and I only just knew of this deleted scene.
Me tooo i was shocked, i heard stories about people morphing into cocoon but i nevere believe in that and now... I will watxh this movie again, tonight and i will find with this scene or maybe i will come back here.
@@badmanfromchina6188 Watch the Directors cut of the movie and you’ll see there’s quite a few deleted scenes in it - including this one
It’s in the novelization by Alan Dean Foster. I first read it when I was a teenager in the 80s. It’s worth a read if you’re a fan, some great stuff that isn’t in the movie because of cuts.
Declan Quinn They’re in the novelization by Alan Dean Foster as well.
It’s sad to know there are a lot of things we don’t know about… 😮
It's been a while since I read it, but I think in the book there are 3 people in the Alien hive and Lambert is the one least "eggified" and asks to be killed. Dallas is more eggified, like Brett is in this scene, then there's an actual egg, assumed to be Brett. Having all 3 stages shows the reader/viewer the life cycle of the Aliens- living captive ---> egg --> facehugger --> chestbuster ---> Alien (xenomorph). This version 1) Allowed a single alien to multiply and create more eggs and 2) Really solidified Geiger's horrific vision of the alien.
It's so beautiful...(sniffles)
Nah. Parker and Lambert were hauled into the airlock by the Alien. Ripley encounters body remains ….
No, in the books, Dallas motions toward Brett with his head and says "that used to be Brett"
None of that is in the book.
@@Keltibarian Went back and checked, it's all correct except Lambert isn't there yet.But it does indicate Dallas is cocooned and Brett looked like one of the eggs from the derelict ship (although Ripley doesn't know that). Page 245 of the paperback.
I understand why they cut this scene. The climax of this film is very tight, and follows a swift pace. This scene does detract from that tension, but in my opinion it remains possibly one of the most terrifying aspects of the film.
If they put this before she begins the self-destruction sequence, it's perfect. ALSO, the scene was clearly unedited dude! There are jumps in the film, and stutters in the action. If they had edited it to be part of the flow of the action, removing the obvious moments when it was roughly put together, there would have been no slow down in the action at all.
Stylistically eggmorphing is far superior to the queen. Makes it so that the alien has no purpose besides inflicting pain and terror. Queen makes it seem like aliens are some sort of a beehive that has a purpose.
THIS is apparently the scene in which Ripley was remembering in Aliens when the Marines came across that female colonist cocooned & she kept saying "Kill me!" As she heard Dallas say to her here! That makes that scene more chilling. Next time you watch it think of THIS!
This scene is cannon for me
Yes! And equally - when she says it's too late, they're already being cocooned like the others, she's talking about something she knows about from this experience, not just hypothesising.
An alien pops out in that scene. The captive wasn't being turned into an egg.
@@BurtonMKelsoThat's nice but eggs are actually created by a queen, not by dissolving people into eggs. Therefore it cannot be canon. Not only that, but deleted scenes in any movie are never canon, what is canon is the final product that the writers, directors and producers all deemed to be canon.
The first draft of a book and the final book will be completely different, is the first draft also canon to you? No matter the contradictions? Why is it different with deleted scenes?
@@cadkls Yes, a first draft is canon. That’s been layed down as an official rule in The Universal Declaration Of Story Telling And World Building Of The Collective Human Imagination, which was penned by Charles Dickens and Jrr Tolkien in 1757. They further elaborated this in letters written to each other in 1985. Extremely common knowledge.
I wish this scene was in the main film. Just to see Ripley make such a hard decision that almost no one can do, only makes me love her even more
💯 yes.....soooo brave. She did what others could never do. When this movie came out it was like holy 💩. With Sigourney Weaver playing Ripley I don't see another and I hope they will never attempt a remake. There should only be one with a possibly a part 2 (original)😀
I have mixed feelings. It stops the pacing dead in its tracks, and Ripley spends a LOT of the self destruction countdown time here. On the other hand, it's a haunting, quiet scene, with Dallas' desperate and plaintive wails. The way it's played suggests to me that he's in great pain and that asking takes all he has, but that the transformation itself is a painful, horrific, uncaring process.
I feel like if it had been shot so that it happened before she sets the SD countdown, it would have been the best of both worlds, allowing the powerful scene without killing the fast pacing that comes with escaping the ship.
@@petery6432 In the book it occurs before the countdown. No idea why anyone assumes it should appear in the middle of the countdown, where of course it would be totally dumb and kill the pace.
People do strange things when they experience terror, like for instance Lambert trembles with fear over the sight of the Alien, so she doesn't jump out of the way
@@ghostlightx9005 They assume it, because in the scene, you can hear the self-destruct alarm blaring....
@RED PILL PORTAL You're right, allowing them to suffer unimaginably is better for society.
The characters are given a fate worse then death. This is powerful horror.
While I love the movie Aliens this is a much more terrifying explanation for how the creatures reproduce.
It's actually an alternate hermaphroditic method, in the absence of a queen. Much, much slower but also far more hideous and horrifying.
@@frankberst729 It was the original way of reproducing the way Giger imagined it. The queen is just an invention of James Cameron.
@@MidnightatMidian this is so much better and terrifying than the Queen concept.
@@MidnightatMidian Man, that Geiger was one twisted $%#^@.
NO IT ISNT
was always fascinated by this scene, the actual state of Dallas and pain he seems to be in, what the Alien must of done to him, horrifying
It slimed him with its hands when it grabbed him in the tunnels. Slim and goo sweat and drool out the xenomorph body. The slim hardens like a spider web. Then the xenomorph internally infects him with enzymes with the point of its tail. The enzymes breaks the body down into a metamorphosis this, turning him into an egg.
Literally having his genetic material and body changed every second, while he's alive. Being turned into an ovomorph.
@@Filthy_Larry was it feeding him some weird alien slime?
@@0b6dm68 yes.
I’ll break it down in a National Geographic Channel form
Dallas is a human who’s about to be unsuspecting prey for the xenomorph. Xenomorph grabs him in the air ducts. It’s hold is 20 times that of a chimpanzee making it impossible for Dallas to move. It’s body constantly sweats and stools out mucus slime enzymes which become thick rapidly when exposed to oxygen. Getting all over Dallas as he is dragged back to its hive. Upon arrival, the creature then slithers its tail from behind Dallas’s neck. The tip of the tail is the xenomorph stinger. Quickly it penetrates it’s prey once in the desired area and releases fluids which carry maggot like creatures to eat away from the inside out similar to new age screwworms
As they do, the body begins to break down allowing the growth of a new yoke as mass is molded into the hive itself which is alive, morphing the yoke, coating it with a shell casing.
@@Filthy_Larry so it inserted slime and maggots into Dallas!?!? 🤮
2:28 - Ripley: “Dallas!”
2:37 - Dallas: (groans)
2:43 - Dallas: “Kill me”.
2:50 - Ripley: “What did it do?”
3:04 - Ripley: “Brett”.
3:17 - Ripley “I will get you out of here! I will get you on to the shuttle!”
3:22 - Dallas: “No”.
3:28 - Ripley: “What can I do?”
3:30 - Dallas: “Nothing”.
3:57 - Dallas: “Kill me”.
I'm pretty sure the 3:30 is "Mercy", rather than "Nothing.", with Dallas trying to let Ripley see that killing him is a mercy rather than trying to save him
@@DisemboweII absolutely! Here you can clearly hear that Dallas asks Ripley to put him out of his misery.
3:30 is actually worse.... he says: "Mercy!"
It's in the DVD subtitles!!! :O
@@DisemboweII yes. It's in the DVD (2003) subtitles. .... so disturbing :/
I always thought Dalllas says “Burn me” the second time ? Am I wrong?
As far as I'm concerned, I see no reason why this can't be canon. Xenos are meant to breed fast and set up hives, if no Queen is present the lone wolf Xeno can simply create eggs through humans while waiting to mold into the Queen stage, where it would then mass produce them.
Eggmorphing was originally to be witnessed during the climax of Alien, when Ripley discovers Dallas and Brett cocooned in the Nostromo's hold, with Brett being transformed into an Egg. The entire sequence was cut as director Ridley Scott felt it slowed down the final act of the film. However, the scene did appear in the movie's novelization, and was referenced in the novelizations of the sequel films.
, it couldn't become a queen: it's lifespan according to one source was a matter of weeks or even days. And it was male. A male is a drone. Finally, to produce a queen, would need royal jelly, and the alien would very carefully select a perfect " specimen" to impregnate, which happened to Ripley in Alien3.
@@luthermcgee432 Most of all, there was no ''Queen'' whatsoever in the original film. This concept was invented years later by Cameron for Aliens.
@@luthermcgee432 Also there was no indication about the sex of the alien in the original film, it could be male or female.
@@MidnightatMidian , I have to give you a thumbs up on that. When I called it male, it was because when the embryo is implanted inside a living host, it takes on the characteristics of it's host: if it's male,it has male characteristics, ( it raped Lambert with its tail) or a dog, it runs on all fours ( Alien3), just to name a few. But you're right, it was actually an it. I just wanted to clear it up.
Alien Isolation copied this so well! Love the game!
Well, we never actually saw anyone egg-morphing. It looked more like what Aliens did, where Xenomorphs captured humans to be used as hosts for the newly born units. Eggs were already onboard the Sevastopol, but since only one Xenomorph entered the premises and started hunting people one by one and there were no traces of Alien Queen, it is to be believed that people were in fact going through egg-morphing. A strange combination of both movies.
@@markocvetkovic6877 the devs confirmed there was a queen "down there somewhere in the cacophany of sevastapol station" but didnt want her to be seen as they wanted to emulate the feeling of the first movie more than the second. If you listen closely you can aparntly hear her in the hive part of isolation. I think that when one Xeno is alone it may egg morph a few victims and then one of them may turn into a queen. Fun to theroize about tho!
@@michaelsloanedog No when they're by themself they become a queen. The xeno in the first film would of eventually become a praetorian then queen.
@@trollzynisaacjohan1793 is that canon?
@@a_catsThe 2010 video game Aliens vs Predator has precisely that happen in the Alien story arc. The alien you play as, “Specimen 6” eventually molts into a queen as a replacement for the previous queen who was killed. Unsure how canon that is though. 2003’s AVP: Extinction for the PS2 also featured praetorian aliens being able to molt into queens, but only if they originated from pure strain eggs/facehuggers
As a young Alien fan back in the 80s this scene had mythical status , we heard about it but never saw it, it's a great shame it was cut, this was Gigers take on the Aliens reproduction cycle the Queen was Cameron's idea
all the stories about it where all lies. this scene never happened it was never shot. this is a deepfake AI film.
Brutal. This and Carpenter's "The Thing" are the greatest sci-fi horror films ever.
True.
And the immersive experience they provided helped a lot.
In France, the first movie is called Alien: the 8th passenger. I always liked the full name but it's wrong. Jonesy is the 8th passenger, the alien is the 9th.
We are the 10th. That's how immersive it is.
💯
@bastidface thank you so much I am so glad I am not the only one that considers both Alien (1979) directed by Ridley Scott and The Thing (1982) directed by John Carpenter the greatest sci-fi horror movies ever created as well:).
Agree. Aliens is the greatest sci-fi action film ever.
This scene establishes that the ship has become unsafe and it’s the right course to blow it up. In the theatrical cut seeing the whole ship blown up to kill a single critter only to later find out it escaped with Ripley feels like a huge self-own.
Great point
That was actually the entire point. The Alien was smart enough to figure out what was happening and itself went and hid in the escape shuttle DELIBRATELY as a survival instinct. It was the only part of the ship not making much noise. Ripley makes the choice to blow up the ship for her own survival, whereas the Alien hides in the shuttle for its own survival. The point being that at this point in the film, Ripley and the Alien are both attempting to survive. They're alike in that one way.
The Alien is acting for its own survival and so is she.
@@colliric I’m not questioning Alien’s judgement, only Ripley’s and screenwriter’s.
@@colliric also, the reason the alien was slow to get ripely in the shuttle was for many reasons.
1. It didn’t view her as an immediate threat.
2. We can see the goo dripping off it and all over the controls by it. A new hive was in the making.
@@Filthy_Larry How was the hive in the making? The ship blew up
I feel like if this scene had been kept in the movie (the whole five minutes, not the butchered version we had in the 2003 director’s cut) upon its release in ‘79 then this would have brought the house down. I don’t think ANYONE would have seen a scene like this in a movie before. People would have been running from the theater. The sheer horror of the idea that the Alien not only captures you but sticks you to the wall and turns you into goo as well.
And on top of all of that, who knows just what the creature does to you to make you do so.
Horrifying to think of.
The movie blob rings a bell
@@joshuastrittmatter4188 They force feed you this goo stuff that changes your whole DNA and molds you into what they need. It is truly horrifying
@@joshuastrittmatter4188 when the xenomorph grabbed Dallas, it’s hands smear goo all over him. It’s the same goo that’s scene when he places his hand on the floor in both the theatrical and directors cut. Another scene in both cuts is when the camera focuses on the wall in the tunnel which is dropping a substance. Dallas was practically in its hive.
As the alien goo thickens, it restrains Dallas from movie. The xenomorph then injects enzymes that break the body from within. Maggots form and grow from inside which come out the hosts pores. As they feed off Dallas matter, they harden up and form the egg casing. The rest of Dallas is used as a yoke.
@@Filthy_Larry oh my god this really would have brought house down back then
This scene should have never been cut out of the movie
This should have been before she decided to go self destruct. One xenomorph means the end of the world.
Yeah, it shouldn't have been. This could have been the single most disturbing scene out of the whole film.
Matt 3838 what would have made this scene even more horrific is if Dallas told Ripley that he needs to take a shit real bad. The moment he goes in his pants is when he asked her to kill him. He doesn’t want to turn into an egg with shit in his pants.
No, because whilst this is terrifying and explains why dallas' body or blood weren't found, it would have obstructed the hive related lore behind the xenomorph
Alex Davies that’s why it had to have happened before the self destruct. The hive would have prompt rilpley to go self destruct. 1 xenomorph on earth means the end of the world.
They really should’ve kept this scene it’s really fascinating and horrifying.
@JR422 000 I think the queen was made only by James Cameron in Aliens
@JR422 000 The concept of a "queen" wasn't a thing until James Cameron did the sequel many years later. And actually a colony with a queen is much less terrifying because it's something with which we are very familiar here on earth (think bees, ants, termites). The idea of a victim being morphed into an egg is completely and utterly alien (pun intended) and therefore a helluva lot scarier, imo.
@@MoonchildDog I agree. Its like Rich Evans said in the Half in the bag Alien commentary "the queen was a bad idea because they gave the franchise a boss. A video game boss"
The fact that it defiles your body and you suffer after it gets you is scarier than a queen.
very glad they cut it out, Alien works 1000x better than all the sequels because of unseen events and non clear images.
I read about this scene even before I saw the movie, and it always seemed illogical to remove it, as it both completed the creature's life cycle and provided the final gruesome shock about what the alien was doing with it's victims. I'm glad they reinstated it in the Director's Edition and thanks for uploading it uncut here.
It had patient issues because Ripley is supposed to be in a rush but she spends quite a while in the chamber which wouldn’t make sense because the ship is soon going to blow up and you can’t just waste valuable minutes of the movies time
@@hannothestupid2064 True, and that's what Scott said about it, but as the director's edition showed, it can be done with a bit of careful editing.
My opinion is that it was crucial to explaining what the creature was actually doing and how it's life cycle is completed. Without the scene, it simply appears that the monster kills for no reason.
It was removed because it causes the frenetic escape scene to come to a screeching halt. It makes no sense for Ripley to stop dead in her tracks to look at this and take her sweet time to react when she's pressed for time. Had it been placed before the start of the self-destruction sequence (like maybe shortly after discovering Lambert and Parker dead), it wouldn't have impacted the pacing and would've worked wonderfully to reveal more about the xenomorph. But alas, that's not how it was filmed.
@@xen0bia I agree, that would have been better. In any event I think they did a pretty good compromise in the director's edit.
I like your pseudonym. Alita rocks!
Completely agree. I read the novel before I watched the movie. And this scene completely terrified me as a kid. It was slightly different tho, the cocoon were more like bags and were hanging from the ceiling.
I think if they could have figured out how to work this into the narrative between the Ash killing and the Alien attack on Lambert and Parker, it would have made a powerful point to the calculated fierceness of the creature as a "predator" to any life form.
Except the predator itself. They preyed on aliens.
I like the Predator reference in resurrection when Ripley 8 beats the mercs and the scientists say some what of a Predator lol and funny how Predator was also owned by Fox at the time
I do not understand the Predator references here. My comment was "predator" as a noun, not a pronoun. That was non-existent in the original story that I am talking about here. All the AVP stuff has nothing to do with the original "Alien" film.
Logically this scene was like take place after lambert and Parker are killed
@@jonnybirchyboy1560 How?
This makes the scene with the thousands of eggs in the derelict more horrifying, until you see Aliens and then it's just "there must have been a queen here."
Well I always thought they were being transported away on the ship before it crashed on Acheron or LV-426.
The only thing that doesn't make sense to me is that the eggs were way too small for the space jockey.
@@TheFacelessStoryMaker Me too. A weapon transport ship?
@@geonerd Yeah, basically a munitions transporter or even a freighter on it's way somewhere. Possibly to delivery or possibly to help launch bioweapons at a target somewhere in the galaxy.
This resembles the clone scene in Alien Resurrection. "Kill me" followed by Ripley torching the place.
Alien 1 : Dallas says " kill me"
Alien 2 : A girl says " Please, kill me!"
Alien 3 : Ripley wants to die
Alien 4 : Ripley clone " Kill me"
its the other way around
Absolutely chilling and effective body horror scene, but best left as an extra in view of the franchise.
Ridley said it slowed down the action in the finale, but it may have been a case where it was simply too horrifying.
Nah, too slow.
Should have been put in after Ripley found Lambert and Parker
No, I don't think they cut it out because it was TOO horrifying for the horror film.
It was probably, as Ridley said, it would ruin the pace and believability of the escape scene, and that makes sense.
He didn't say that just to hide his real opinion that the scene was too spooky.
They definitely could've fit this scene in before the countdown was started.
It would ruin the pace but interestingly enough, in Aliens, when Ripley saves Newt, there was a sense of urgency that had to be slowed right down and it worked so well. I think it still could have worked and gives even more of a reason to destroy the creature
Amazing how the look and feel still looks good to this day. I love this film.
This scene made this species much more terrifying. That's not to say that the more familiar Queen-based aliens in the second movie weren't terrifying enough, but they were at least more familiar.
I love this scene, maybe if it was featured before the self destruct system scene it may not of slowed the pacing but it’s harrowing seeing Dallas like that and what remained of Brett’s corpse.. even with the Queen introduced in the second film it shows how a drone can survive alone..
love it! I’m so happy they referenced this scene in the novelisation of 3 🤌🏼
After seeing the movie in the theater, I remember flipping through a magazine on the making of the movie. It was fascinating, but there was a picture of Sigourney practicing how to use a flamethrower. I always wondered about that because I didn’t remember her ever using one in the movie. Now I get it (42 years later.)
I first saw the cocoon footage on the old laserdisc issue of Alien & I have to say I actually preferred that version to the more 'final' polished one seen in the 2003 directors cut, it had no music as I recall & the fact you could hear Dallas' eerie whimpering in the dark long before Ripley finds him added to the unsettling nature of it, all that being said, given that this is during the destruct countdown sequence, you can also understand from a narrative & pacing stand point, why Ridley cut it from the og theatrical version.
This scene should have been kept in. It should have been inserted after Ripley discovered Parker and Lambert. More incentive to set the self destruct
Exactly
Considering Dallas was the leader, and a sympathetic person, to see him in such a horrific predicament is just terrifying.
If they kept this scene, there wouldn't have been a need for a Queen and the sequels would have had to go in a different direction.
They could still have exploited the concept of a queen by saying along the line of it's emergency way of breeding when there is no queen
By nature the aliens simply capture and cocoon. Maybe they don't know there aren't any eggs around?
I think its because the queens produce like 15 eggs per hour. Correct me if im wrong tho
@@adraawhitemoon8995 exactly! and it actually happens in nature! (partenogenesis!!) :)
@@adraawhitemoon8995 I'm pretty sure that's how it is in the current canon (at least, that's how it's explained in the novelisation of Alien 3)
This is the most terrifying scene in the whole film. Spending just a moment imagining what Dallas and Brett are going through makes my bones ache.
Just a great scene, better to have it now than never.
When this was added into the (so-called) Director's Cut, it was put in the wrong place. In the script it happens right after Ripley discovers Parker and Lambert are dead and before she starts the self-destruct process. So the alarms would not have been going.
True but AFTER she starts the self destruct she doesnt have much time to piss about so you can see why they wanted it before she arms the self destruct. She simply doesnt have 5 minutes to waste like this. So in this case ship about to explode>alarms going off in terms of continuity errors.
@@jmlaw8888 did you even read the op's comment, smoothbrain?
@@ryantogo8359 Yup I did you mongoloid. Its a deleted scene. You CANNOT nitpick because the entire fucking reason it was cut originally was because it struggles to fit. Whichever way you slice it they looked at this scene and decided something doesnt work. Now stfu.
@@jmlaw8888 no you obviously didn't. And you're also not bright enough to keep from getting your comments deleted, smoothbrain 😂
@@ryantogo8359 Check your own comments retard. Theyre getting deleted too. 🤣
And yes I obviously did, its just a mentally stunted moron like you cant tell.
This movie scared the hell out of me the first time that I saw it. I was totally not prepared for it. I think the trouble with new movies is that they show you too much in the previews now.
So unfortunate to have had this scene removed from the theatrical release.... It would have brought a very dynamic and disturbing element into the Alien character. Wow, I am so intrigued and blown away by this scene....the utter need of procreation exhibited by the Alien.... It leaves quite an impression in the mind, indeed! yes, I can go on and on. Extraordinary cinematic viewing par excellence!
Absolutely disturbing.
I love it.
This scene by far is the most disturbing in alien1...after all these years 1st time seeing this!
yeas ago I heard about this delted scene and though the egg morhping was a brillant idea ! so I didn't understand why it was cut out of the movie, watching the very first seconds of this video I understand why.
The scene should have been used before the countdown, but maybe it was not possible, too long since I saw the movie I can't tell where I'd have put the scene.
While I understand the more "stoic" acting of Sigourney in the DC version, I still prefer the cut scene on the ALIEN dvd where she was more emotional and crying (which just felt more appropriate for having to kill the last remaining member of her extended family... not to mention: in an earlier script, Dallas was her lover. Granted, you are talking about a relationship that was maybe a few weeks old, but having to burn to death someone you were becoming attached to wouldn't be something you could just emotionally shrug off).
This scene is even more powerful when you consider that the earlier draft of the script had Dallas and Ripley as lovers.
Absolutely the right choice to cut this scene from the theatrical release. With that said, it’s probably one of the greatest and most important deleted scenes of the entire franchise!
They should have kept this scene. Yes, it slows the pacing, but this is so important when it comes to world building. Not to mention how gruesome this sequence is.
this movie is playing today and sunday at my local theater. will definitely go and see it on the big screen.
This would have proved the "Queen hive" theory BS and showed Ridley's original scope on this which he tried to do with Prometheus.
I saw it as soon as it was released in the cinema ... I was 14 ... this scene was not cut ... like the airlock scene too.Great.
Are you daft?
@@catadjusterZ He saw the Directors Cut release. It was re-released to cinemas.
I watched it on the big screen too. It includes this scene and the airlock scene.
I was shocked the first time I learned he wasn't an animatronic and they actually had the guy up there strapped to the wall. His face is so eerie and creepy looking. Like it's not even the same person we saw earlier.
Fuck man, I actually was thinking that was an animatronic in this clip. Brilliant work by the makers
plot-twist: the guy who played brett (harry dean stanton) was also actually placed inside the egg..... :3
This is so terrifyingly sad and grim. I felt the agony in Dallas' voice as he was being practically "absorbed" into the encrusted mass surrounding them. It must've been soaking wet and frigidly cold down there too.
This deleted scene is the most disturbing to me as you see can Brett's fate that has now befallen Dallas. It makes what happened to Cain, Parker and Lambert easier to take.
Ripley's actress' acting in this is top tier.You can just see the pain,the sadness and the disgust all mixed together,knowing that burning her friend alive is the only way to end his suffering.
The alien cocoons mimic that of the Engineer Ship Interior
I like the director's cut because it brings back this horrifying scene. I like the idea that the drones can breed too.
In every Alien movie there's always someone asking to be killed. Here it's Dallas, in Aliens it was the colonist they find in the processing station, in Alien 3 it was Ripley herself and in Resurrection Ripley's clone.
To be fair in 2 and 3, wanting a mercy kill because a creature is about to burrow out of your ribcage and wreak havoc on your friends is a pretty reasonable request
This should've been canon because it is much more terrifying.
“Kmmmiiiiiiii Huhhhhpweezzz...”-Dallas
I think he actually says burn me
@@annamaillia1552 im pretty sure he says "kill me" sorry for being late btw
41 years ago people! 41 freaking years! 👌👌
What does that have to do with anything?
Movies this past decade are shit in comparison, except for super hero films.
@@averageplayers5288 smoothbrain
I used to watch this movie alot in late 1989 when I was a teen, and I haven't seen it much since. I always thought all those crewmembers were killed by the alien, but this totally blows my mind to find out only now after all these years that this was the fate of the crew.
I can't remember well the later scenes of the film, but if they could've added this in before Ripley set the ship to self destruct, then they should've.
In the book and original screenplay it happened immediately before the destruct was activated. Made more sense.
@@martinharris5017 They should've included it in there then. In fact, if this triggered Ripley to blow up the Nostromo, then she need not have turn Dallas into a human torch.
@@germanicelt I don't think there was much human left! However the whole point was that Dallas begged and she could not bear to see him suffer a moment longer.
Don't forget this is a horror movie and part of the horror was Ripley having to make some horrific, spur of the moment decisions. I doubt she would have paused to think logically under the circumstances.
The other aspect is that she wanted to destroy all that the Alien had done. This was it's lair and she burned it down as an emotional response not a logical action.
That's my take on the scene anyhow:)
This scene should have added in Movie but before she started Self distruction,
So both Dalles and Rest of the crew members death leaded her to start self district and ending scene makes more sense
I always thought Dallas would have been Cocooned like we see people in Aliens. Never realised this scene existed till now🤯. Imagine the time and effort that went into designing and making the practical effects for this scene, only to end up on the cutting room floor.
Now just imagine if the Runner Alien in Alien 3 used this method instead of waiting for the Queen to appear.
Interesting scene, I remember when I was a kid reading the Aliens book and Ripley mentioned about seeing a hive before but on a smaller scale. So this is where, never seen this scene before.
Imagine spending weeks building that set and then having it deleted from the movie...
this scene is mirrored in Alien Resurrections when Ripley 8 finds the monster lab where other clones are.
The same emotional memory is raised from Ripley to Ripley 8 makes this scene a lot more important.
The tension is unbearable!
Love how this scene mimics a medieval victorian gothic castle dungeon.
I actually made an edit of this scene so it doesn't run soo loong. I cut it down to less than half. After viewing it i realized that it was still too long and i cut it down a bit more.
Ridley was right, it goes against the fast paced mayhem of RipLey trying to get off the ship.
It would have been a good scene "before" all of this.
Perhaps after Brett or Lambert or Parker are killed off.
Of course all the yellow siren alerts would have to be shut off. That would & should work.
Most of these edits were made strictly for time. In those days, a 2-hour film shipped to the movie theater in 8 big cans of film, costing $1500 per print. Once you get over the 2-hour mark the cost becomes prohibitive. So, even very interesting scenes like this had to go.
Aliens crafting their own eggs is far better than having a queen that lays them, and makes them appear more alien in their biology.
Well, an American director has to simplify and make things a little obvious for his audience, right?
@@donniecatalano whatever garbage country you're from would've never been able to make any part of this movie in the first place, 🤡
Trick missed with this movie is it didn't show how these two were cocooned and at that time the interaction with the Alien while he cocooned them the terror they experienced would make interesting viewing ...
I do wonder why the director cut didn't fully restore this scene.
It's part of the 2003 director's cut.
@@Testingthisname How exactly does it do that?
I have a theory that the Brett cocoon has different head sculpts. The face looks different in each scene.
The craziest thing about this is the Alien does all this in like a 24 hour window
it was actually dying at the end it had a 7 day life cycle hence what was happening rapidly here.
@@chasam1234 dur the durrrr smoothbrain
I consider this scene canon myself, it made no sense to cut it out because of pacing when it could’ve easily been edited in BEFORE Ripley starts the self destruct.
I like that it gives the Alien more mystery than just “Queen lays eggs” as it suggests to me that when a lone Alien has no hive or Queen it will make one and use humans as the material to make eggs (making way for a Queen) I wish another director picked this idea up again in the sequels as a way to confirm that an Alien can do this to people when a Queen is not present, in my eyes I think slowly being turned into an egg as your internal organs are being melted and digested into another form of matter is a horrific concept.
Good scene in one way, but too slowly paced - just check the age she takes climbing down the ladder, and scouting the chamber. Sudden, shock discovery would have been more punchy. And as others have said, at the wrong point of the movie. Would be better just before setting the ship to self destruct, not before.
I can see why Ridley left it out. Even aside from pacing problems the film presents, it also robs us of a horrific imagining what might have happened to Brett and Dallas - and that's possibly scarier even in the imagination than this scene is on screen.
I don't think the scene disturbs canon. A warrior drone might be able to slowly produce eggs if necessary with captured prey, and the Queen once born from a specially nurtured egg, is preferred thereafter - being much more efficient herself at creating them en mass.
Vulnerability on the ladder is scary.
This "complete" scene is actually comprised of two different versions of it - IIRC, both are from the laserdisc release. That's why you see footage like Dallas' reactions (turning towards Ripley/turning away just before he's incinerated) being shown twice.
Even in its truncated form, the scene still throws the pacing off. We don't need the sudden last-minute reveal that Dallas is alive/being converted into an egg, just to kill him off moments later, after it was presumed he died in the vents. Nothing about the creature indicated it had made a hive. Ripley stops what's she's doing, in a tense escape sequence, to saunter around and look at the walls of the hive.
@@miljeuta Yeah, easy prey if it can ambush with that spike.
If this scene had occurred before the self-destruction countdown, it would have worked. In fact, it would have given them a legitimate reason to explode the entire vessel.
im glad this scene was deleted because this Aliens or any future movies wouldnt make sense. as because of Aliens, we know that the Xenomorph needs a Queen to lay eggs. and the Xenomoprh( Kanes Son) in Alien- was a drone- not a queen.. deleting this opened up the whole analogy of an insect heirarchy
I can't believe they edited Alien on PowerDirector
I wish this scene was kept in.. made the alien even more alien and creepy. It does throw off the pacing and screeches it to a halt, but maybe that just makes it even the more impact full. For Ripley to witness the absolute horror and tragedy, one would imagine that she could be distracted momentarily and her empathy is what stops her briefly from escaping.
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😭 No! But it had to be done
Darn it! I was expecting this scene, not only I’m sad but I’m mad
The sound design on this is by far the most terrifying part, hearing Dallas groaning before you actually see him makes it for me
This deleted scene and the "spider crawl" scene from THE EXORCIST are legendary. I saw the cocoon scene in a Director's cut and felt it could have worked. Especially showing the nature and evolution of the creature, but it may have slowed down the pace of the film which is just about perfect. The scene of Regan coming down stairs on all fours backwards should have been cut because the idea of all of the HORROR happening in ONE ROOM makes it creepier. EVERY time the audience hears stuff they know when bedroom door opened we will be shocked to shit!! It ruins that Pandora's Box of trouble that worked so well.
IMHO Alien" is more about dread than action or pacing. A slow paced scene with the space ship about to blow up and the possibility of an alien attack in sch environment would have truly terrified the viewer. The fast paced escape was almost like a relief.
When the original movie came out, I read the novel before seeing it. This scene was in the novel and it really stuck in my head. It was THE scene I remembered. I was always disappointed when I didn't see it on the big screen.
I know this was cut because it’s horrific, but I find it really adds to the horror of everything.
Eh, it’s not really so much horrific as it is just overkill
No, it was cut due to the pacing of the climax being better without it.
This is the raw scene this was also cut down and put in the 2003 directors cut. This 5 minute scene is cut to about 3 minutes in the directors cut the scenes in this without audio are the scenes that were cutout for the directors cut in 2003. And the release cut has none of this
And thats why it was deleted. In the 2nd film Ripley didnt know about any nests
Not sure why they didn't leave this in, its very terrifying and explains where the others went.
4 minuten! ...und es saugt einen in diesen Film! Wahnsinn! Wie gut und welche immersive Qualität!
Reminds me of Alien vs Predator when Lex finds Sebastian cocooned and as she’s trying to help him he begs her to put him out of his misery
Well they also directly reuse this in Alien resurrection with the botched Clone Ripley.
I hate it when they make a lot of scenes which then they hold back from an enlighted audience. We want to see it all in one integral version goddamn !
The egg-morphing would have been a better choice, if the movie would not have had a sequel. The morphing explains the Alien species way of reproduction quite simple and logical.
Alien 2 / Alien needed two things: 2.) something NEW, that the people have not seen in the 1st movie and 2.) the stereotype of an evil "big boss", some goal for the hero/heroine to defeat in order to achieve a satisfying ending. Killing yet another alien drone would merely be a repetition of the 1st movie. And thus, the idea of the Alien queen was born.
I suspect they already planned the sequel by the time they cut the original movie, and that's the reason why they cut the egg-morphing. I personally would not have bothered if both ways of procreation would have been left as canon. Imho, they just did not want to confuse the un-enlightened part of the audience. 🙃
I hope release ALIEN the Director´s cut on 4K
Soooo they used that concept for the 2nd one…Genius…