What's it like to lose your job when you're middle class? | James O'Brien - The Whole Show
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
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I am in the same position as many callers. Worked my way up from lower working class to middle class through hard work and continued upskilling. Now I am 55 in an ageist profession (Marketing and Advertising) and presumed incorrectly to be to old school or they believe me to be overqualified. I am back in the same position I was 10 years ago when my unfair dismissal and subsequent financial distress contributed to the break up of my marriage. There is no inheritance coming my way to save me ever given my background. I support my ailing mother and my two boys. I have dipped into my savings but now the well is dry.
There is always something in my interview that stops them from employing me even though I am desperate. I often get asked won't I get bored.
I have also been told that there is a lack of cultural fit.
After so many knockbacks one starts questioning one's self-worth. I am constantly online applying for roles, doing free courses etc I feel like a runner constantly training but never allowed to enter the race.
FYI. I had to sell the family home 10 years ago as we could not keep up with mortgage repayments. Here we go again.
You may as well jump on seek and Google jobs overseas and see if you can get a "skilled visa" or "employer sponsored visa" with the extended family. Nothing to lose asking the question. If parents protest tell them sun vs cold. Which is better for ageing well?
GET THE CONSERVATIVES OUT
Remember if you are on universal credit and you get sanctioned for not looking for enough jobs or late to the job centre interview ,you can ask for a 'Mandortary reconsideration.
No matter what it is appeal 🙏
At least there's someone in the media who talks sanity rather than just right wing fear mongering
Don't you get it, he's being used to justify the existence of the others. Otherwise LBC would lose even more subscribers.
Bully obrien doesn’t talk sanity 🤣 he is a mouthpiece for kier starmer.
@@anonomous8719 I only recently came across O'Brien on LBC and at first I thought he was great. But after listening to him over the last year on a variety of subjects my estimation of him has slightly changed. Regardless of the topic of the discussion callers often get drowned out by his anecdotes,life experiences or just taking over them whether in agreement or otherwise.
@@anonomous8719Bully?! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Here in The US when you fall down they just kick you.
No we just expect you to at the very least attempt to stand up on your own, we can't will you to try
Nice cope, a bit bland but tried and true. @@williamelewis464
@@williamelewis464how about those already standing reach a hand down?
New hospitals when we can't even staff the ones we have?! Ludicrous.
The collapse of the NHS is so clearly manufactured it's not even funny.
And I had to go to the jobcentre when I was 20 until 24, back in 2010, and it was dehumanising. It impacted my mental health significantl; so much so that I believe it contributed to my nervous breakdown in 2011 (which continues to effect me today). I had to go in to one earlier this year after 14 odd years (for an ESA checkup) and it felt exactly the same.
Victoria is about to find out. They will offer her jobs at a certain point VERY soon. And when she says that is two hours away from my home, I can't afford to pay for five hours childcare plus pay my bills on that salary. And the advisor will say? Drumroll please. "Are you refusing this job opportunity?" And she will blink in shock because she just explained, sensibly, why that job can't work. "Because if you refuse more than three suggestions, I will have to sanction you..." And you will have your already meager support cut. She is about to find out for real.
You feel inferior like whatever hardwork you did meant nothing. Which could make you feel like looking for work is pointless.
Tories just have contempt for everyone who isn't rich. Be they your British Tories, or my Canadian Tories. Nothing but unfiltered contempt.
And it's only made worse by their bootlickers.
What's it like to lose your job when you're Sangita Myska, James?
They are tone death and smug about firing her.
James O Coward is a champage socialist pretending to be a working class champion.
@@DLG24 tone Death XD
just ask Sangita
Quite.
Go ask Sangita!!
I would love for Sangita to impersonate a caller and call and say the troubles she had when she got fired .
Sunak - "don't talk about the past"
Also Sunak 0 "Jeremy Corbin!!"
Why doesn't he just ask sangita ?
Priceless :D
Well, look on the bright side it won’t be long then conservative MPs will be looking for a job themselves
First caller doesn’t know what their monthly salary is which is a concern. No way £90k annual is £7k per month on a net basis. I agree that it’s tough, especially living in Richmond, when you lose your job, but not knowing net take home doesn’t make it seem you’re that worried about your finances
I fast forwarded through this segment. It sounded too much like rich people problems to my working class/low wage ears.
So much of what people phoning in about losing a job when on a middle-class income/lifestyle reminds me of Gerald in The Full Monty.
Ditto
the problem we have these days also is that councils do not match people skills with jobs, local councils have been removed from localities and see unemployed people as a burden which should exist so they have a job themselves.
Bring back Sangita
Why?
@@yington she is great
A journalist is meant to go against the grain and ask hard questions, she did that.. or else it's not news, it's propaganda
@@ladycanada35 Did she say she'd rather be back?
@@croneryveit9070 doesn't matter, it is your loss and the reason I'm not clicking on your videos anymore.
What it's like? For a start if you get redundancy you will get no help from dhss you then start gobbling up said redundancy pay your mortgage till you find another job and if you can't find one your forced to sell you cars when the money fom that's done you put the house up for sale pull the kids out of school college and move somewhere cheaper.I consider my self lucky in that I had a trade to go back to We the family returned to Scotland moved into rented accommodation went self employed and was able to run a successful business until I retired.
Like your dad this was 1990 YorkShire earning 40k whatever that is now and like your dad I did my 50 years paid tax and stamp
Glad you are making a shout out for Gary!
I'm in Chicago, IL in the US. And the more I listen to the LBC news, the more it mirrors the US issues or vise versa. Our Healthcare system has been appalling over the past 3 years. 15 years I had the same family doctors office, and 2 different PCP's. Now, it's hard to count all of my doctor changes. And the quality of care continue to diminish.
We have had privatized prisons, then they become a 'business' they fix nothing, worse mistreatment of prisoners, etc... not to mention the early release of
The Sewage that's been unloaded in Lake Windemere. I believe THE WHO has had mentions, of water quality, diminished, tainted to no return. Homelessness, we have people living in tents all over town. Our Housing Authority here, has been investigated. They have over 500 properties that are unused, they have sold properties. However the monies never put back into their system. We have had a housing crisis prior to the bus loads of immigrants.
Bottom line we share a multitude of issues. It's the middle class is becoming poorer, and the rich are getting kick backs, tax breaks all over the place. I'm sure you remember, Jeff Bezos, Owner of Amazon made $11 billion, 3-4 years ago, he didn't pay ANY TAXES. I'm mean, what the....
I like all the news on LBC... however, James O'Brien is my favorite to listen. Keep up the great work all, ta.
That's thanks to Reagon & Thatcher = neoliberalism = the enemy of the disadvantaged!
10% of Bezo's fortune could save 41 million from starvation. Come 'Judgement Day' is all I can say!
If you applied for Jobseekers allowance then you are on UC. Period.
8:16 im taking bets on how long it will be till they float the idea of children's being allowed to work and bring back the work house for those undeserving poor ...
I think (or maybe misremembering) IDS spoke of "work houses" a few years ago. These Tories would bring back sending children down chimneys is they thought it would get a vote.
Have they tried maybe like investing a few hundred pounds in a valve that doesn't fail open and pump tens of millions of gallons of raw sewage into our lakes if the telephone line goes down? Like, maybe the valve should fail closed and call an engineer on 24/7 standby? Just a thought.
Like, I'd be happy to pay a 5 pound a month for a sim card data plan if the lines are all dodgy?
This man is gem
Sangita?
Speaking philosophically on political constructs & statute law (i'm allowed - as a philosopher) ""That which is used by all should be in public hands, that which is used by many or the few but not all should be in the hands of private enterprise. Confusing or debilitating either ethos will inevitably lead to corruption and will decrease the stabilty of the civilisation that created it". oh, btw way? The beaten generation - great album, still go back to it ocassionally
I had sympathy for Victoria until she mentioned a husband!
Norman Tebbit is alive so his ghost doesn’t even have a job.😂
After watching this, I’m pretty sure LBC need to find Nick a nursery (or maybe he could manage year 3) placement
The final item with the Danish Professor was gold standard radio, thank you.
What income range currently defines 'middle class' in the UK?
According to our Scottish government which may also apply to the UK in general the average individual annual wage is £27500 ? I could make that with one full and one part time job,just. I would definitely not consider myself to fall into the lower middle class let alone middle class ! Nor do we own our own property.
It's a mindset.. Middle class in the UK are people who don't do manual labor.
I just assume that the English electorate are fine with this as they stand and point at 'boat people' ruining their lives.
Jumped up milk monitor!! 😂 Nailed it
I found I stopped getting responses to job applications after my 50th birthday.
James' lake remind me, when I was a kid, I was taught Japan famous mountain was mount Fujiyama. (It's mount Fuji, Yama is the japanese word for mountain)
Would that be the remake of "The Great Escape" sponsored by McDonald's where the German officer said "have a nice day?"
The guy that rang in that lost his job:-
Why can't he club together with his other mates to work together
Or sell a house or car?
Are there not Career Consultancy agencies in UK? Do these people not have networks or able to mind map their skills into new career paths?
MPs can afford to lose there job
Someone tell this Oligarch, Most of the jobs that are offered are paid the minimum in the economy. The minimum in the economy. You work for a year like a fool, and your only joy is not to end up homeless....WOW, HUNT😢😢😢😢
James, are you alluding to Sanita?
no, and the amount of wasted time you spend on someone being released from their contract with a massive buyout of the remaining portion shows which tax bracket you live in
@@williamelewis464 you sound jealous.... are you poorly employed?
A bjt of realism. She was pulling in 7 grand a month and most probably 12kper month between them. When it’s someone on a low wage, we don’t get the same coverage, bjt someone who’s middle class and we have to feel dreadful for them
We never stop hearing about those on a lower incomes and people like her pay the taxes.
@@stephenmurray2851 Yea. We tell them to get a better job. Nobody should feel bad for middle class people going homeless. It'll teach them a lesson.
@@alfsmith4936 What lesson?
@@stephenmurray2851 How to budget
@@stephenmurray2851 I replied earlier but RUclips seem to have censored it. Maybe their bots think they're middle class now..
Isn't it the case that In Scotland and Northern Ireland where police powers are devolved crime is falling but in England and Wales crime is rising?
Now!
1:22:42 those who would give up a little essential liberty for a little added security will in the end inevitably receive neither
How much land does the Russian Federation want? It borders 14 countries including Norway, Finland and China and is in dispute with Japan over some islands and not far from Alaska (Baring straits).
"What's it like to lose your job if you're middle class?' why is being middle class and losing your job in any way different to losing your job if you're working class,part time ? If you're a Conservative Middle class voter you can find plenty of zero hours contract jobs out there,but work more hours !
as to Mel Stride? Ask him - if you ever get chance - to say he would be happy and be able to pay his mortgage and put food on the plate if he was made redundant or lost his job and had to go for a job he is qualified, i.e. tour guide, and if he could generate a job and income to serve his present wage as an unqualified member of a politica partyl that got the job just by being a member and no qualifications. Long question, make it rhetorical
We already have one of the most surveillance heavy populations in the world. As far as I'm aware it's largely ineffective, so why the need for more?
How unfortunate to be a doppelganger.
First caller, the type of person that voted Tory and when he hears about us poors struggling for money, agrees with Tory talking points about just take a low paid minimum wage job at Amazon or go replace the now banned seasonal European farm workers. That's what Brexit was for wasn't it. To get rid of immigrants doing low paid menial labour that our unemployed work shy working class plebs could do. He's obviously not trying hard enough
What does it feel like when you lose your job when you are WORKING class and just married? Something Mr O'Brien will never know!
What’s it like to earn 7k a month on top of your husband the doctor, and not save any for a rainy day James.
I feel like James might know someone he could to call ask whats its like to lose their job, hmm...
You have lost the plot , your dad would have , absolutely no chance now,
James, let the security guy speak your interruptions break his flow and direction
Love the show btw. One of the best on air
The opposite is a moral decline.
That's been and gone mate. Morals are what poor people have.
@@alfsmith4936 I can do you a special deal on morals.
@@andal7404 I'll only corrupt them.
@@alfsmith4936 Assuming you have none of your own to sell.
@@andal7404 I sold them to a Russian dealer when they were worth something.
Are Reformuk standing a candidate in your constituency?
If you need to work then you are not middle class!
Historically it was bank managers, Doctors and those in mid/upper management roles, government civil servants etc who were deemed as "middle-class".
That’s not true. Teachers, social workers and vicars are classic middle class roles, all on between 20-30 thousand a year. There’s no way they can afford to stop working - they’d starve
I can only assume you are American..
@@minui8758 None of those professions have ever been 'middle class'. Thatcher started all this back in the 80's when she managed to persuade half of the working class (over 95% of the country) that being working class was something to be ashamed of. Work hard, buy your own house and a nice car and you will become middle class - and half of the country fell for it! This was her real legacy as a politician because ever since then the working class have been to divided to ever get a better deal for themselves and their families.
If your family live in their family stately home with butlers and maids then you can be considered middle class.... otherwise me, you, teachers, social workers and vicars will have more in common with the homeless than with the likes of Reece Mogg.
We remain peasants and always will be.
@@mickreaddin4979 Wrong. The Upper classes are royalty and the aristocracy. The middle classes were the land owners who collected the money. The rest of us who did the actual work were the peasants.
Nowadays we have fellow peasants who are quite wealthy... but if their family home isn't a stately home with miles and miles of land.... you can't change who you are just because you become rich!
this guy is hella pessamistic