#1 Mrs Hudson #2 Mary Morstan #3 Irene Adler #4 the restaurant guy who was at Study in Pink #5 Mike (I forgot the last name) (he was the one who introduced them to each other)
@@rubyrichardson2160 and she is not joking. There are many moments on the show that people will tease about their relationship but as joke, but in this moment Irene is not kidding... I mean... right???
@@druidriley3163 exactly. why would it matter what the bartender thinks of them? or anyone else. let them assume Johnlock is a thing and just go with it. that at least would have meant some character progress (if you allow John to start with this denial thing early in the show) and the damn writers acknowledging their own frustrations.
@@granville7 that's not the point. it turns out that sherlock has a habit of correcting everyone, literally everyone, including the restaurant man. and sherlock corrected everything he said afterwards, but not the part where the man said they were a couple and even showed a small smile. if we ship, it's bc we have a reason.
Mrs Hudson is for sure no.1. Then the waiter. And the hotel owners from Hounds. And even Sebastian from The Blind Banker, if you picked up on that little moment.
@@notquiteneutral2590 which was actually his sister. who John also text cheated on mary with. She never counts. Because she has super powers or some shit and can make people do weird things like kill their families.
Evidence of Johnlock: 1. When John is called Sherlock's date, Sherlock doesn't deny it. 2. Sherlock tells John that they're gonna be sharing a flat. 3. Mrs. Hudson ships them, and she has a motherly instinct, so she knows. 4. John says, "You're unattached, like me" to Sherlock. 5. At the restaurant, Sherlock turns John down and says he's married to his work. Sherlock is amazing at deductions and never gets them wrong (except for Harry). How could he get this one wrong??? 6. John kills a man for Sherlock a few days after meeting him, even if it's against his moral code. 7. Sherlock asks John out to dinner even if he doesn't eat. ALL IN THE FIRST EPISODE.
amazing how much material they can give in the literal first episode… (Also, Sherlock does get deductions wrong sometimes!! It may be different in the BBC version, and if it is I apologize, but in the original bookseries Sherlock makes a point to let John know he can document his failures, as well as his successes, as he wants to let everybody know even he, Sherlock Holmes, is wrong sometimes.)
You know what just came into my head: Since Rosie is now living with both Sherlock and John, they’ll be needing a kids room for Rosie, which means john and sherlock basically have to share one bedroom😍🥲
I just love that during that whole conversation between Irene and John Sherlock is literally just standing right next to them eavesdropping on their conversation like he really wants to know what all that leads to😂😩😌
Насчёт книги не скажу, но по поводу экранизаций, не во всех это так. В некоторых они правда просто хорошие друзья. Например, в Советском фильме. Но в Шерлоке да, в Шерлоке они пара, ахах)
I love how Sherlock doesn't deny that they aren't a couple. It's funny because that is exactly what I do with my best friends when people say we're a couple. I love him, Sherlock is so me. 🤣
i’ve just started reading a study in scarlet. i really thought that it was going to be....less gay than the show (idky) but NO i’m only 48 pages in and they are already in love like- stamford: yeah sherlock can be a bit quiet sherlock, when he first met john: OMG HEY MY EXPERIMENT WAS A SUCCESS LET ME TELL YOU ALL ABOUT IT AND ILY, MOVE IN W ME PLEASE
Let's be honest, Irene, the bar guy in the S1E1, the inn owners in S2E2, Mrs. Hudson, and even John's ex-girlfriend and wife ships Johnlock They're the embodiment of the fandom
was the rick roll really necessary?! 🤨😂 also. your boyfriend is oblivious! poor him, he hasn't been enlightened yet. he hasn't seen the wonders of johnlock.
its amazing how after 3 almost 4 years ppl are still out here making vids and edits srsly the sherlock fandom is the most patient and insane fandom i’ve ever had the pleasure of joining like how are we still alive tf
If they really don't want Johnlock to be canon, why the heck did they put so much effort into making it look canon only to say that it isn't? And then end the whole series with Sherlock and John's marital bliss, them raising their child and solving crimes together for old times sake, I mean. That's the perfect happy ending there if it weren't for the angst that we have to go through because the directors said BUT NO. nOt GaY.
I still think they did end up that way on purpose for us to see they are a couple, but they don't wanna be too obvious nor get criticized by media and stuff bc after all in the original stories they are not a couple - or at least not in an explicit way. Idk, I kinda get their fear if that's really whats happening, although I do not agree with it - or I am just too optimistic
@@NicoleSonagere yeah I think the same. I do like it that way to be completely honest. It keeps the viewers interested and it's always a clever tactic to leave such things for people's interpretation. So if there sre people who don't want Johnlock to be canon, they are happy because it has not been confirmed, but as for us, it is obvious that they are not bros at all. All the clues are right there. So we are happy with the happily ever after. We can handle that little angst, no biggie. So like, everyone's happy. The series is open for all types of audiences.
Well John never said "I'm straight", he just said "I'm not gay" he also just said "we're not a couple" though he could easily have said "we're just friends, we're not in love" instead of "Sherlock was never my boyfriend" he could've said "I was never in love with Sherlock" but he didn't
right?? like honestly i think the typical response from a straight man when hearing someone say he's dating a guy would be "i'm straight. i don't have feelings for him" but instead John's response is always "i'm not gay" or "he's not my boyfriend" which can very easily indicate that he's bi/pan and has some kind of feelings for Sherlock. and then there's Sherlock who never even tries to deny it when someone assumes he's dating John, even tho he always corrects ppl when they're wrong. they're both hopelessly in love with each other they just don't realise the other likes them back. "the love is mutual they're just idiots" kind of situation
People will say "And they were besties" Historians will say "And they were roommates" And I will say : THERE IS ONLY ONE BEDROOM IN SHERLOCK'S APARTMENT IT'S SAID BY MRS HUDSON IN THE FIRST EPISODE
we all love how the shows plays with this theme and laugh at the utter hilarity in an edit like this. But if we think about it soberly it is really sad, isn't it? John feeling the need to deny being Sherlock's date, bf, whatever at any given moment. The show (at least one of the writers is gay) uses our deeply ingrained uneasyness and awkwardness, our own probable rejection when confronted with it personally, as fertile ground for a joke. Being called 'gay' makes us uncomfortable, we therefore avoid behaviour others might interpret as gay. Try this: John showing open signs he loves Sherlock, like helping him in everything, lending an ear, giving advice, guidance or counsel, or more mundane things, domestic things or being generous in touching him [in public]. How many of us will call that 'gay' even when neither of them ever has any desire to get physical in a sexual way? As long as being gay is frowned upon (even when tolerated), or the term 'gay' can be used to insult/shame people or make them uncomfortable, we won't see much genuine emotion between [male] friends. There will always be that awkward 'John' behaviour of constipated or stunted emotions. Truly sad.
Well put, but in the case of this show, I'm not convinced. I find the running joke funny as hell. There is always a little mancrushing between the two, but it need not be interpreted as them being gay. Either one or both. The way the show embraces the idea of homosexuality as normal is perfectly fine and welcome It's not sad. I don't think they are making people feel ashamed. The truth is there are still many many people in the closet or a little embarrassed to be publicly gay. This show has a character that may be one of those people. I personally don't think he is. John is just lovingly attracted to his best friend on all levels. And he taught Sherlock how to love more. I think it's one of the greatest male relationships ever put "on film."
@@djmotise Whenever someone so much as implies that John might be attracted to men, John loses his marbles. Instead of just, I don’t know, laughing it off with his BFF. The biggest villain of the show, Moriarty, is coded as gay. Eurus, the evil lunatic, is also coded as lgbt+ (she says she raped someone and when she was finished with them, she could no longer tell their sex - it’s put in a way that suggests that she’s not heterosexual). Then there’s Irene the lesbian who 1) is a promiscuous asshole and 2) somehow falls for Sherlock, i. e. is ‘fixed’ by a man. But sure, the show 100% embraces the gay and gives lgbt+ folks the much needed representation.
Okay just because there are a lot of gay condonations in this show doesn't mean there is automatically a gay or lesbian writer. They might be trying to open the world up to the possibility of two men being gay and letting people accept it in their own way. It is at this point just a running joke and even if they were gay it doesn't change the context of the show. Personally to me, I think if they are gay fine if they aren't fine. Because they are both great characters together and they are funny as hell with or without the gay jokes.
@@522nibbles mycroft, mark gatiss is gay and co wrote most of the scripts of the series. So he might actually influenced the "John and sherlock are gay for each other" thing a lot. I mean I love how it's so clear but vague enough to interpret it how you wish. And most ppl see what's going on.
On the flip side of your argument, what does it say about society when any deep friendship or tactile affection between 2 men is automatically presumed to be homosexual? Women are allowed to cohabit with their female friends and hug them in public without being assumed to have a sexual relationship with each other, but two guys Who share a flat, hug each other or stand too close together must be sexual partners. Men are consistently deprived by society of platonic expressions of friendship to one another. Even the fandom who are gay themselves and enthusiastically support a gay relationship between Sherlock and John are still making this error without being homophobic about it. This faction in fact was incensed against the writers For their so-called gay baiting… In the end Moffat and Gatiss Didn’t make this pair overtly gay enough to please more of the fans Who would’ve only been satisfied with a full on sex scene. We all do a disservice to friendship by considering it as inherently lesser of a relationship than one that includes getting naked with each other. In fact I think the reverse might be more true. Lovers and sex partners often come and go throughout life but a pure and devoted friendship between two individuals untainted by sexual politics and jealousy is a rare and beautiful thing, particularly between men. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was dealing with fan interpretations of his famous pair being homosexual from the very beginning, but that was never his intent. Moffat and Gatiss were playing around with the humor but to the end Dr. Watson steadfastly insisted that he was heterosexual. Why assume that he is either lying or self delusional about this? It is after all the 21st century, not the 19th century. As for Sherlock Holmes, then as now he enjoys winding his flatmate up and mocking societal conventions. Sherlock Holmes is asexual, and he is so uninvested in the idea of sexual/romantic relationships that he would say absolutely no need to deny or affirm anyone’s perception of his association with John. He doesn’t deny that he’s John’s boyfriend out loud because ultimately he doesn’t care what people think. Not because he believes himself to be in love with John in that way. John is his best friend, likely his only friend, And their friendship is intense because They are each other’s primary relationship in addition to being brothers in arms in crime solving. Danger and proximity binds people together and they don’t have to be sleeping together for this to happen. This transcends romance and becomes something even greater.
It's pretty obvious People only assume that John and Sherlock is a couple when Sherlock is around You don't just assume two men hanging out together are a couple And they all know Sherlock You see what I mean ;)
isnt it *so funny* how sherlock always has to have the last word as john out it, but he says *nothing*, not a *word* when someone assumes him and john are together?
Oh this one hurts, it hurts because it's so obvious yet it's probably never going to be canon. Well, maybe who knows, I just hope they don't pull a Supernatural.
I’ve only just finished s1 and I already love Johnlock so much. I totally get it now! I’ve heard about people shipping them for years. After one episode and all the hints in that very first episode alone made me love them. ❤️
@@NicoleSonagere I will! Thank you and this video is awesome. I very carefully tried to watch Johnlock videos before finishing the show but I was spoiled that there’s a somewhat happy ending for them even if they don’t happen in canon.
i have two wolves inside me. one of them is my obsession with fictional romance that keeps shouting that John and Sherlock are in love and are married and everybody knows it. the other is my aromanticism that is shouting that John and Sherlock aren't romantically involved but they're also not purely platonic and their bond is too strong and emotional for others to understand
I mean there is indication that he had frick with irene, and also that he flirts with John and also that he is asexual so I just think of sherlocks sexuality as 'whatever works'
This is why I belive sherlock was openly gay before he met John because everyone sherlock knew before John assumed John was his boyfriend they didn't ask why they moved in together they just assumed they were dating because its obviously sk out of character for sherlock to have a close friendship that's isn't beyond just friends
i didnt even ship merthur as fast as i shipped johnlock first episode restaurant scene got me understanding why they had so much ao3 fics 😩😔 johnlock skipped all the tension and just straight up got married
Irene: he doesn't flirt back:(
John: Wym? He always does.
Lmao
Literally said that
@@moonlight.z6543 yoo for real😂
Yes john we knew that he always flirt backs with you...
Also John: But what does that mean tho
Let's be honest here. Non of us is "Johnlock-fan #1". That honor goes to Mrs Hudson. And right after her is that nice restaurant-man.
And third is Irene lmao
Agree, u are totally right there
@@emmamiller2245 yess
And fourth probably the entire scotland yard
#1 Mrs Hudson
#2 Mary Morstan
#3 Irene Adler
#4 the restaurant guy who was at Study in Pink
#5 Mike (I forgot the last name) (he was the one who introduced them to each other)
John : I'm not actually GAY!
Irene : Well.. I am.
Me : LMFAO
"actually" 😏
I like that comment she made because she's saying I'm not straight and you're not gay but we both fell for sherlock holmes
"But look at us both."
@@rubyrichardson2160 and she is not joking. There are many moments on the show that people will tease about their relationship but as joke, but in this moment Irene is not kidding... I mean... right???
THAT ALWAYS GET'S ME IT'S SO FUCJING FUNNY
sherlock corrects everyone about everything EXCEPT when people say that they are dating
it's about THAT !!!
You're a genius-
Holy shit wait-
Thank you for the employment, I needed this in my line life😆
Omg... Yes yes that
i like how johns all like hES NOT MY BOYFRIEND or like HES NOT MY DATE and sherlocks just like :) and doesn't deny it
why should he? it's great fun and riles up his doctor friend. nothing kinky will ever happen between them anyway.
@@granville7 let the imagination run free sir or ma’am or them ❤️
I love this series. And yes, I waited for years for John to just give up when someone assumes they're a couple and go 'whatever'.
@@druidriley3163 exactly. why would it matter what the bartender thinks of them? or anyone else. let them assume Johnlock is a thing and just go with it. that at least would have meant some character progress (if you allow John to start with this denial thing early in the show) and the damn writers acknowledging their own frustrations.
@@granville7 that's not the point. it turns out that sherlock has a habit of correcting everyone, literally everyone, including the restaurant man. and sherlock corrected everything he said afterwards, but not the part where the man said they were a couple and even showed a small smile. if we ship, it's bc we have a reason.
Everybody keeps talking about sherlock and john but no one's talking about how we got rickrolled on the bottom left
😭😂
For real though
i do not mind
🤣 hahahahahahaha
What's the whole point of the rickroll?
Mary Miss Hudson and Irene Adler are the biggest Johnlock shippers change my mind
Mrs Hudson is for sure no.1. Then the waiter. And the hotel owners from Hounds. And even Sebastian from The Blind Banker, if you picked up on that little moment.
Angelo erasure
Don't every forget about the gay couple from the inn in Hounds of Baskerville
@@lindseysquire8417 Yeah
"Sorry I don't have a double room for you guys"
"Does yours snore?"
What about Mary?
'We're not a couple"
"yes,you are"
KSKSK Xd
John was the first & last person to whom Sherlock asked for DINNER! 😂
RIGHT
unless you count Culverton Smith’s daughter who he imagined (“You’re suicidal, you’re allowed chips.”)
@@notquiteneutral2590 which was actually his sister. who John also text cheated on mary with. She never counts. Because she has super powers or some shit and can make people do weird things like kill their families.
even the people sherlock is closest to think john is his boyfriend.
even johns WIFE thinks they r dating
I love how Mary is just like: We're all in a polyamorous relationship and I love it
Yes she s just like you should go back to dating because im dead
Mrs. Hudson is liteally a representation of the entire fandom watching John and Sherlock flirting with eachother haha
Evidence of Johnlock:
1. When John is called Sherlock's date, Sherlock doesn't deny it.
2. Sherlock tells John that they're gonna be sharing a flat.
3. Mrs. Hudson ships them, and she has a motherly instinct, so she knows.
4. John says, "You're unattached, like me" to Sherlock.
5. At the restaurant, Sherlock turns John down and says he's married to his work. Sherlock is amazing at deductions and never gets them wrong (except for Harry). How could he get this one wrong???
6. John kills a man for Sherlock a few days after meeting him, even if it's against his moral code.
7. Sherlock asks John out to dinner even if he doesn't eat.
ALL IN THE FIRST EPISODE.
T H E F I R S T E P I S O D E
LMAOOO THE ENDING “ ALL IN THE FIRST EPISODE” HAHA thanks for the laugh
@@torgynz2856 😂Glad you found it funny! It's true though!
amazing how much material they can give in the literal first episode…
(Also, Sherlock does get deductions wrong sometimes!! It may be different in the BBC version, and if it is I apologize, but in the original bookseries Sherlock makes a point to let John know he can document his failures, as well as his successes, as he wants to let everybody know even he, Sherlock Holmes, is wrong sometimes.)
"sharing a flat???" when i first heard that i spat out my choccy milk
The text are making this so much better tho-
EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS IS YES
“and Sherlock Holmes is a very lucky man.”
I love how no one asks if they’re together, they just assume
So obvious no one wants to ask 🤩
@@NicoleSonagere periodt
I dont get it your boyfriend needed CONVINCING when it was so obvious
You know what just came into my head:
Since Rosie is now living with both Sherlock and John, they’ll be needing a kids room for Rosie, which means john and sherlock basically have to share one bedroom😍🥲
That's what I needed for a good weekend - Thank you
DYYDUGJGH YES
When PPL say: this fandom is so innocent.
Me: check the comments and change your mind
John: "People might talk"
Sherlock: *Admires gun in secret*
Me: Ohhhhhhhh boi somebody is G a y
That whole scene was just jkjsksksjss
You know how people daydream about their crushes? I daydream about John and Sherlock confessing.
YES
mHM!
Every other line Mrs Hudson says to John has the subtext ‘oh bless your heart, in sure you’ll get over being in denial one day’
I dOn'T sHaVe fOr ShErLoCk HoLmEs
I just love that during that whole conversation between Irene and John Sherlock is literally just standing right next to them eavesdropping on their conversation like he really wants to know what all that leads to😂😩😌
I love how im just casually being rick rolled this whole time
John and Sherlock being a couple since 1890s*
You are 100% right, dear friend
Насчёт книги не скажу, но по поводу экранизаций, не во всех это так. В некоторых они правда просто хорошие друзья. Например, в Советском фильме. Но в Шерлоке да, в Шерлоке они пара, ахах)
It's a masterpiece. ♡ I'm glad that fandom is still alive. Please don't stop doing that. Bless your work 🙌🏻🧡
Thank you so much!!!
2:52 "ARE YOU ALRIGHT" the sheer panic in his voice.......my heartttt
I love how Sherlock doesn't deny that they aren't a couple. It's funny because that is exactly what I do with my best friends when people say we're a couple. I love him, Sherlock is so me. 🤣
UUMMMMM, so you don't deny when people say you and ur best friend are a couple? Do we have another Johnlock here 👀🤭
@@NicoleSonagere Who knows. We haven't figured it out yet. 🤣🤣
@@Kyra-gg5gs Figured it out already?
@@norazulkifli2517 I like her as a friend 🤣
i’ve just started reading a study in scarlet. i really thought that it was going to be....less gay than the show (idky) but NO i’m only 48 pages in and they are already in love like-
stamford: yeah sherlock can be a bit quiet
sherlock, when he first met john: OMG HEY MY EXPERIMENT WAS A SUCCESS LET ME TELL YOU ALL ABOUT IT AND ILY, MOVE IN W ME PLEASE
Right??!!! When I first read it, I felt so confused about HOW THE F**K people can't see they are in love since - like - FOREVER ??
literally two chapters in and i was so surprised with how enthusiastic sherlock was to show john about his discovery
holy hell. they’re mega giga gay
Gods this was my exact same reaction
Let's be honest, Irene, the bar guy in the S1E1, the inn owners in S2E2, Mrs. Hudson, and even John's ex-girlfriend and wife ships Johnlock
They're the embodiment of the fandom
Sherlock always corrects everybody on everything they get wrong but when people assume he and John are a couple he says NOTHING.
was the rick roll really necessary?! 🤨😂
also. your boyfriend is oblivious! poor him, he hasn't been enlightened yet. he hasn't seen the wonders of johnlock.
i wanna like but lets keep it at 69😉
"Can we expect happy news by the end of the week" or smth like that were Mycrofts words after the first quote... Yass
"Might we expect a happy announcement by the end of this week?"
PLEASE MAKE MORE LIKE THESE P L E A S E
I WILL! THANK YOU :))
"We're not a couple"
"Yes you are"
my favorite tbh
its amazing how after 3 almost 4 years ppl are still out here making vids and edits
srsly the sherlock fandom is the most patient and insane fandom i’ve ever had the pleasure of joining
like how are we still alive tf
Right?! We deserve another season and an award for best fandom 😪👌
And you’re still earning fans too. I finally just found time to watch this show and fell in love with the idea of Johnlock instantly
If they really don't want Johnlock to be canon, why the heck did they put so much effort into making it look canon only to say that it isn't?
And then end the whole series with Sherlock and John's marital bliss, them raising their child and solving crimes together for old times sake, I mean. That's the perfect happy ending there if it weren't for the angst that we have to go through because the directors said BUT NO. nOt GaY.
I still think they did end up that way on purpose for us to see they are a couple, but they don't wanna be too obvious nor get criticized by media and stuff bc after all in the original stories they are not a couple - or at least not in an explicit way. Idk, I kinda get their fear if that's really whats happening, although I do not agree with it - or I am just too optimistic
@@NicoleSonagere yeah I think the same. I do like it that way to be completely honest. It keeps the viewers interested and it's always a clever tactic to leave such things for people's interpretation. So if there sre people who don't want Johnlock to be canon, they are happy because it has not been confirmed, but as for us, it is obvious that they are not bros at all. All the clues are right there. So we are happy with the happily ever after. We can handle that little angst, no biggie. So like, everyone's happy. The series is open for all types of audiences.
@@malikisbae6875 yep yep!!
But I'd die for a fanfic-scene of Johnlock just like Moriarty and Sherlock's in S03 by that goth fan hahahaha
@@NicoleSonagere YES! That's literally the only thing we need. If we get that, even a remake of that scene with Johnlock, I can die happily.
Isn't it nice that mrs hudson isn't homophobic, considering her generation
Yeah, now that I think about it, it's actually refreshing that an old woman could be so supportive..
it's 2021 and I'm glad to see that we're STILL not over Johnlock
It's 2024 and we're STILL not over Johnlock.
love how sherlock just basically just confirms it all the time HAHA
Well John never said "I'm straight", he just said "I'm not gay"
he also just said "we're not a couple" though he could easily have said "we're just friends, we're not in love"
instead of "Sherlock was never my boyfriend" he could've said "I was never in love with Sherlock"
but he didn't
R i g h t
right?? like honestly i think the typical response from a straight man when hearing someone say he's dating a guy would be "i'm straight. i don't have feelings for him" but instead John's response is always "i'm not gay" or "he's not my boyfriend" which can very easily indicate that he's bi/pan and has some kind of feelings for Sherlock. and then there's Sherlock who never even tries to deny it when someone assumes he's dating John, even tho he always corrects ppl when they're wrong. they're both hopelessly in love with each other they just don't realise the other likes them back. "the love is mutual they're just idiots" kind of situation
@@moonlight_dulcet Exactly!
It's so funny and it's right)
"Sherlock wasn't my boyfriend" no John he _wasn't_ he _is_
People will say "And they were besties"
Historians will say "And they were roommates"
And I will say : THERE IS ONLY ONE BEDROOM IN SHERLOCK'S APARTMENT IT'S SAID BY MRS HUDSON IN THE FIRST EPISODE
they share a bed?
I showed this video to my dads in order to convince them to watch Sherlock.
did it work???
@@NicoleSonagere They're the biggest fans now, it actually annoys me XD
even though they haven't quite finished yet
@@skulduggerypleasant6439 yyessssss!!! I made it hahahahaha I'm glad we could bring more people to the dark side!!
@@NicoleSonagere me too! they're gonna be so disappointed when they click "next episode" after the final problem tho :(
@@skulduggerypleasant6439 I'm working on a video about s4 - a way to make our lives happier after it! Hope they approve it too!
john bi panic is what i live for
*"A WOMAN?!"*
John: **obnoxiously clears his throat**
Me: AWWWWWH
Mrs. Hudson and Mary both shipped it so hard
Irene and Mrs Hudson being wholesome for 3 minutes and 40 second straight
I love how everyone's canonically a JohnLock shipper even in the show
we all love how the shows plays with this theme and laugh at the utter hilarity in an edit like this. But if we think about it soberly it is really sad, isn't it? John feeling the need to deny being Sherlock's date, bf, whatever at any given moment. The show (at least one of the writers is gay) uses our deeply ingrained uneasyness and awkwardness, our own probable rejection when confronted with it personally, as fertile ground for a joke. Being called 'gay' makes us uncomfortable, we therefore avoid behaviour others might interpret as gay.
Try this: John showing open signs he loves Sherlock, like helping him in everything, lending an ear, giving advice, guidance or counsel, or more mundane things, domestic things or being generous in touching him [in public]. How many of us will call that 'gay' even when neither of them ever has any desire to get physical in a sexual way? As long as being gay is frowned upon (even when tolerated), or the term 'gay' can be used to insult/shame people or make them uncomfortable, we won't see much genuine emotion between [male] friends. There will always be that awkward 'John' behaviour of constipated or stunted emotions. Truly sad.
Well put, but in the case of this show, I'm not convinced. I find the running joke funny as hell. There is always a little mancrushing between the two, but it need not be interpreted as them being gay. Either one or both. The way the show embraces the idea of homosexuality as normal is perfectly fine and welcome It's not sad. I don't think they are making people feel ashamed. The truth is there are still many many people in the closet or a little embarrassed to be publicly gay. This show has a character that may be one of those people. I personally don't think he is. John is just lovingly attracted to his best friend on all levels. And he taught Sherlock how to love more. I think it's one of the greatest male relationships ever put "on film."
@@djmotise Whenever someone so much as implies that John might be attracted to men, John loses his marbles. Instead of just, I don’t know, laughing it off with his BFF.
The biggest villain of the show, Moriarty, is coded as gay.
Eurus, the evil lunatic, is also coded as lgbt+ (she says she raped someone and when she was finished with them, she could no longer tell their sex - it’s put in a way that suggests that she’s not heterosexual).
Then there’s Irene the lesbian who 1) is a promiscuous asshole and 2) somehow falls for Sherlock, i. e. is ‘fixed’ by a man.
But sure, the show 100% embraces the gay and gives lgbt+ folks the much needed representation.
Okay just because there are a lot of gay condonations in this show doesn't mean there is automatically a gay or lesbian writer. They might be trying to open the world up to the possibility of two men being gay and letting people accept it in their own way. It is at this point just a running joke and even if they were gay it doesn't change the context of the show.
Personally to me, I think if they are gay fine if they aren't fine. Because they are both great characters together and they are funny as hell with or without the gay jokes.
@@522nibbles mycroft, mark gatiss is gay and co wrote most of the scripts of the series. So he might actually influenced the "John and sherlock are gay for each other" thing a lot. I mean I love how it's so clear but vague enough to interpret it how you wish. And most ppl see what's going on.
On the flip side of your argument, what does it say about society when any deep friendship or tactile affection between 2 men is automatically presumed to be homosexual? Women are allowed to cohabit with their female friends and hug them in public without being assumed to have a sexual relationship with each other, but two guys Who share a flat, hug each other or stand too close together must be sexual partners. Men are consistently deprived by society of platonic expressions of friendship to one another. Even the fandom who are gay themselves and enthusiastically support a gay relationship between Sherlock and John are still making this error without being homophobic about it. This faction in fact was incensed against the writers For their so-called gay baiting… In the end Moffat and Gatiss Didn’t make this pair overtly gay enough to please more of the fans Who would’ve only been satisfied with a full on sex scene.
We all do a disservice to friendship by considering it as inherently lesser of a relationship than one that includes getting naked with each other. In fact I think the reverse might be more true. Lovers and sex partners often come and go throughout life but a pure and devoted friendship between two individuals untainted by sexual politics and jealousy is a rare and beautiful thing, particularly between men. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was dealing with fan interpretations of his famous pair being homosexual from the very beginning, but that was never his intent. Moffat and Gatiss were playing around with the humor but to the end Dr. Watson steadfastly insisted that he was heterosexual. Why assume that he is either lying or self delusional about this? It is after all the 21st century, not the 19th century. As for Sherlock Holmes, then as now he enjoys winding his flatmate up and mocking societal conventions. Sherlock Holmes is asexual, and he is so uninvested in the idea of sexual/romantic relationships that he would say absolutely no need to deny or affirm anyone’s perception of his association with John. He doesn’t deny that he’s John’s boyfriend out loud because ultimately he doesn’t care what people think. Not because he believes himself to be in love with John in that way. John is his best friend, likely his only friend, And their friendship is intense because They are each other’s primary relationship in addition to being brothers in arms in crime solving. Danger and proximity binds people together and they don’t have to be sleeping together for this to happen. This transcends romance and becomes something even greater.
mAn I am so happy by the fact that the fandom is staring to be more alive and active :'))✨✨✨✨ I am going to cry ah-
Btw beautiful video✨
It's pretty obvious
People only assume that John and Sherlock is a couple when Sherlock is around
You don't just assume two men hanging out together are a couple
And they all know Sherlock
You see what I mean ;)
isnt it *so funny* how sherlock always has to have the last word as john out it, but he says *nothing*, not a *word* when someone assumes him and john are together?
I love how sherlock is always like "NO that's dumb!" until someone ses that they are dating then Hes like "...... ._.
Mrs. Hudson is the number one Johnlock shipper
THEYRE SO IN LOVE PLS
They are always adorable
I love how Sherlock is just like.....
Where are you going?😂😌😌😂😂😂
Never have I shipped a ship so hard in my life i-🤗🤗🤗
I love Mrs. Hudson, she's so adorable
Correction- Almost everone knows that their in love
*Sherlock and Watson are just too oblivious to realize*
Even in the book they just act like a long married couple
T h a n k y o u
2:46
Coming out to my mom but she already knows
Someone introducing the trio:
This is Mary, her husband John, and this is John's boyfriend Sherlock
That was amazing, i just finished to rewatch the serie yesterday and i needed some more Johnlock 🙏🏻
Hope your boyfriend was able to see the light 😂
Thankss!! We need more johnlock stuff, and im gonna do iittt!!
Im praying for him to see it hahahaha
1:49 she sounds so much like Mrs Hudson there 😯
Irene and Mary would be up for being in a polycule, nobody can convince me otherwise.
PLS MAKE MORE I LIVED FOR THAT, im so happy the sherlock fans are back from the dead again
I WILL!!! THANK U
Remember when the waiter said “date” Sherlock asked John what did he want to eat right away so that John couldn’t deny.
But he denied later lol
Oh this one hurts, it hurts because it's so obvious yet it's probably never going to be canon. Well, maybe who knows, I just hope they don't pull a Supernatural.
But if you think twice... After Mary died John went back to 221b and raised Rosie with Sherlock whom she's probably going to call "dad" too
@@NicoleSonagere Nah, "Uncle Sherlock."
Noo supernatural HURT my heart
@@graceheckley for a kid a man who rises them will inevitably become the father
@@alexandra.kol36 Not unless you teach them something else. "Dad" and "Uncle Sherlock" fits their characters.
"Catch my hand."
1:41, that's my favorite part, especially:
S: Stop smiling
M: It's my wedding day!
S: Shut up, b****
Same lol
thank you for making my day , this truly made me laugh when barley anything can these days JOHNLOCK FOREVER
Thank you sm!!! And I'm glad it helped you 🖤 have a nice day!!
whe i was watching it and heard "ppl might talk'i was like :yes, YES I WILL but when he said "now ppl will talk i almost spilled my tea across table
Love them they are cute together💖❤👬👑
0:45
BAHA
1:25
🤣
1:39
LMAO
2:05
Awwww
2:25
😳
2:40
OH
2:52
Just UNDRESSING him oKay
3:12
😳
THE POOL SCENE JKJSKSJSJ
I’ve only just finished s1 and I already love Johnlock so much. I totally get it now! I’ve heard about people shipping them for years. After one episode and all the hints in that very first episode alone made me love them. ❤️
Enjoy every minute!!! 🧡🧡🧡🧡
@@NicoleSonagere I will! Thank you and this video is awesome. I very carefully tried to watch Johnlock videos before finishing the show but I was spoiled that there’s a somewhat happy ending for them even if they don’t happen in canon.
@@NicoleSonagere I’m back at this video now after months since I finished the show! Ships Johnlock more than ever!
@@Bloodyheroesandlegends aaaa I am glad you enjoyed it ♡ and tks for coming back 😁
@@NicoleSonagere of course! This is one of the funnier Johnlock videos and I was in the mood for that
Everything aside. Molly and irene are so funny and lovable
I'm not in this fandom I'm just looking for a new ship and show to watch but I already ship this so hard🤣 no doubt imma get my soul crushed
GOOD LUCK hahahha but let me know when you finish the show 🖤
I love your editing so much I really laught 😂
I love your comment hahaha ♡ tks I'm happy you appreciate it
i've never thought i'd get rickrolled by sherlock holmes...
Rick Astley in the background is perfect
2:30 peak red hand caught. flustered becoz 3:15 is too flirty to accept. well ooof they keep heart eyesing. its too much. all i can do is ship
John you are great boyfriend sherlock Holmes is a lucky men....
Love you janette...
i have two wolves inside me. one of them is my obsession with fictional romance that keeps shouting that John and Sherlock are in love and are married and everybody knows it. the other is my aromanticism that is shouting that John and Sherlock aren't romantically involved but they're also not purely platonic and their bond is too strong and emotional for others to understand
you could've also included how john shaved his mustache only bc sherlock didn't like it
I love how quick everyone always is to assume they’re dating 😂❤
Oh my god the Fandom is aliveeee thank youuu this is masterpiece💖
John… your Bilbo is showing
This whole video is a rickroll which makes this video 1000% better
And don't forgot last sentence of Mary:
"I know what you will become now i'm not here. "
She knows
(Sorry for my English)
I mean there is indication that he had frick with irene, and also that he flirts with John and also that he is asexual so I just think of sherlocks sexuality as 'whatever works'
The last one takes the cake..😂
This is why I belive sherlock was openly gay before he met John because everyone sherlock knew before John assumed John was his boyfriend they didn't ask why they moved in together they just assumed they were dating because its obviously sk out of character for sherlock to have a close friendship that's isn't beyond just friends
Stan Mrs Hudson, the biggest Johnlock shipper of all time
John: Listen to me I.AM.NOT.GAY 🤷♂️
i didnt even ship merthur as fast as i shipped johnlock
first episode restaurant scene got me understanding why they had so much ao3 fics 😩😔 johnlock skipped all the tension and just straight up got married
I just watched the first two episodes of this one and I’m CONVINCED they’re gonna kiss at some point. Please don’t spoil it.
Omg I thought this fandom was dead thank god my people are still out there ❤️