The Rivian R1S Has Arrived And We Answer All Of Your Questions!
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- Опубликовано: 25 окт 2022
- Kyle, Max, and Alyssa dig into the start of our R1S coverage by answering your questions and showing you around the electric SUV!
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SHOWING THE FOLLOWING WOULD BE GREAT…
FULL SPACE USABILITY WITH MIX AND MATCH STARTING FULL SIZE LUGGAGES AND ADDING FOR WHATS LEFT SMALLER SIZE LUGGAGES WHEN THIRD ROW IS UP AND IN A 6 SEAT CONFIGURATION WHEN ONLY ONE OF THE THIRD ROW SEATS WOULD BE UP. HOW MANY PIECES CAN GO IN INCLUDING WITH THE EXTRA SPACE IN THE FRONT TRUNK AND THE ADDITIONAL SPACE TAKING OUT THE SPARE TIRE UNDERNEATH THE FLOOR.
🇺🇸 geeks geeks and MORE GEEKS. GEEKS always live in fantasy lands! Like cockroaches... see one, more hiding. Geeks aren't smart like nerds, just ANNOYING!
Alyssa is a nice calm complement to Kyle's hyper talking.
FYI, just got kneel mode updated. Only works in all purpose and Conserve. As soon as you set it to park, the vehicle lowers. You can disable the vehicle lowering from the steering wheel if necessary. You can enable or disable kneel mode in settings.
It's really seamless since you can barely feel the vehicle lowering or rising because it doesn't rise until you reach a certain mph.
Thank you for pointing out the situation with car seats. So many reviewers don't seem to notice or mention that, and it's kind of a dealbreaker when having young kids.
I visited Huntington Beach, CA, yesterday - I saw an R1S making a U-turn, and let me tell you, it took off. All the windows were down, and 2 small kids were strapped in their seats. It was awesome to watch when the tires made the asphalt burn!
Just want to say how much I've enjoyed the videos with you and Alyssa both....your concerns balance each other well.
Could you guys test to see if a piece of 4x8 plywood fits easily into the back between the wheel wells, similar to how the R1T
Only a week? Man Rivian needs to let you guys have it for at last a month so we can get all that good content
3 weeks later there will be a video of how Kyle put an order for an R1S and a week later Rivian called him and said they have an unclaimed car 😂😂😂 same as with his R1T
@@sek3988 And what's wrong with that?
@@aniruddhaiyengar8788 of course, nothing if you are not the one among the people who ordered a car 1-3 years ago and heard nothing from Rivian )))
Honestly, with all the product feedback Kyle gives them, I’d be OK with that @@sek3988, lol.
@@aniruddhaiyengar8788 whats wrong with skipping the line at amusement parks, the bank or at a restaurant?
You have a great point on the tilt of the second row for car seats. Our Enclave does the lift and tilt which means we don’t have to remove the seat which is critical with 3 kids.
Always fun to see how long Kyle is willing to let Alyssa talk before immediately interrupting her, sometimes he can't even take a breath first like at 9:30
LMAOOOO
He's really rude.
Kyle is a poor conversationalist. He's always busting to start talking again, without properly interacting with the other person's comments. Very annoying to watch, I can only cope with a few minutes before quitting. Sad, because the content is great.
Totally agree. Very dismissive and belittling of her thoughts and opinions.
@@tomlewitt Spoiled rich kid that was probably never told no his entire life. Probably why he felt absolutely no qualms or remorse about jumping over tons of people in line to get a Rivian for himself too. 🤷♂
Kneel mode is great from the little that I used it. Shift to park and it drops from standard to low which is great for those of us who are vertically challenged.
The R1S is the best EV on sale today IMO and thats the option of someone whos owned a model Y, driven multiple S& X and owns a Mach E and 10 Lightning Pros as part of my work fleet
I really wanted an R1S (and the Fisker Ocean). The Mach-E we ordered is barely in our price range, the R1S is quite a way out of it now after the price hike and interest rate increases. Will be living vicariously through you this week!
I am gonna flip my R1S and bad as I want to keep it. I got this blue with white interior
@@mattbrew11 did you end up flipping it? Make a profit?
@@justinstewart3248 yes I did because i ordered it long before the price change. Made about $11k
@@mattbrew11 did you end up getting another EV?
@@justinstewart3248 I will when an ev truck can tow a decent range. Likely gonna be the next gen lightning or perhaps the cybertruck but its freaking ugly
That's quite an ambitious amount of content production for only one week. 😊. Can't wait for all those videos to watch! I've noticed that since I got my first EV in late 2020...I've become sort of a RUclips EV video junkie. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
me too, and I don't even have an EV yet. lol
I like that you can close the lift gate with the tailgate down so you can stand on the tailgate to load items on top of the vehicle. If you just had a one piece lift gate it wouldn’t be possible.
Bring it out to Nebraska so we can see it. :) Because I'm with Alyssa, I want it!
Definitely would say as a reviewer you should get more on car seats. We change cars every 3-4years as I love SUVs. Our family consists of 6 people
but with in-laws and kids friends always joining us on adventurs it’s very important for me to know car seat conversions.
Can you try to get a highway range impact from a hitch-mounted bike rack (with bikes on it, preferably ;-)? That would be incredibly useful and something I've never seen anyone do (but really want to know).
They need to enable Apple Carplay and Android Auto. You guys should press them on this issue!!!
Gee I wish Rivian was in Australia. Magnificent vechiles
Me 2, I believe they're coming here, but it's when, and best guess on price I've heard is about $160k starting
Totally agree with Alyssa, the red looks super nice. Great video!
Car seats in 2nd row AND 3rd row - achors are there on all 5 spots. I would love to see a video with car seats in various spots - rear facing tandem in 2nd/3rd row, 2 side-by-side in 60/40, etc. Can you get into the 3rd row if using 2 seats in the 2nd row in the 60 side? Lots of questions.
Thanks for another great video Kyle. Do you know if this uses the same subwoofer as the truck? How does the Meridian stereo sound with all the extra air space? Also, is the huge towing discrepancy between T and S all due to the wheelbase? Or are there hardware differences?
Manual lower tailgate is a positive, not a negative - one less thing to fail and so easy to do by hand
+1 on talking about car seats. Good to know these things!
I love your videos. They are super informative. I have learned a ton from the review, range tests, charging videos, etc. The only thing that feels a bit too much is that it appears as though you make fun of Alyssa sometimes. She’s amazing and can hold her own, but it just doesn’t seem necessary.
Thanks for the great reviews. I feel like the reviews of the Rivian are generally skewed towards the positive and often for good reasons. That said, would be great to get your take on what you don’t get with a Rivian that you would expect in a $90K+ “adventure vehicle.” A few things I’ve noticed:
Lane keep assist (when not on pre mapped roads). It’s unclear to me if that is available outside of “Driver Assist.” I ask because most cars today provide lane keep assist without a pre mapped road constraint. There's a lot of adventures on off the beaten track roads...
Full size spare - I don’t think you can call an SUV a true adventure vehicle without one.
Range - I haven’t heard anything lately about the 400+ mile extra-large pack for the R1S. While I agree charging infrastructure will improve, I don’t think that solves the problem of EV vs ICE for long road trips to remote locations. We’re years away from that being as ubiquitous and easy as gas.
A few buttons - Don’t think all touch screen is as safe as having some buttons. I much prefer the way Jeep has integrated touch screens with traditional buttons.
Panoramic roof - would you prefer something that had a sliding cover like old school moon roofs.
Glove compartment, Poor quality cameras, Rear view mirror that provides rear camera view
Also interested at some point in thoughts re accessories.
Center console. For those of us that want more usable space between the front seats, something that provides additional cup holders, trays, while also providing open or closed storage below it.
For those that don’t care about a camp speaker, what other accessories could go there (small cooler?).
I’m coming from a Landcruiser so you could check out sites like Slee Offroad for great off roading and overlanding items:
Rock rails, drawer systems, rear tire mounting systems, winches, etc.
BTW - many of the above add a lot of weight which further argues for an extra larger battery pack.
I have, too, always said that the Rivian is the electric Range Rover. They may fall short in certain luxury amenities (but not by much), but the off-road capabilities and the luxury it does have seems to rival that of RR.
Looks pretty sweet! Snow last night and today along Peak2Peak.
I remember when my previous Boxer first refused to jump up in the back of my TDI. She was just old and probably had arthritis. I said “hup” and she walked around to the side door.
I saw one in Hesperia, CA in a canes drive through ordering food lol 2 weeks ago
I completely agree the RRC comparison
I'm loving the R1S! Seems like the perfect EV SUV 👍🏼
This is gonna be a fun week!
Thank you for another review. These are freaking "adventure vehicles" I want to use it for overloading! So what is the range with tire pressures at the lowest and driving in dirt. Maybe do the White Rim trail in Canyon Lands National Park.
Great Video. It’s Definitely time to make OG Dave a Grandpa. Lol😂 Keep up the Great work Kyle.
That's what I was thinking with all the car seat talk. 😂😂😂
Kyle I have the 20’s and they are impressive… makes the S look much tougher… I also have an RR Sport with 22s so I’m used to that look and feel yet believe the S needs the 20s for the look … on another point … slamming it from a dead stop 😂… noticed that if I happen to hit a small bump or what not the S will porpoise a wee bit … the first time it happened I couldn’t pin point what I was feeling other than slightly sea sick 😂… my theory is it’s so damn heavy that the suspension cannot handle the harmonic action from all the momentum caused by that bump impulse .. as a slight ding I’ve never felt anything like that in the RR sport but it’s over 2k lbs lighter … I’d like to know if you can replicate what I’m experiencing, and that’s in Sport mode lowest height. Regards, Bob
Can't wait to see more
Alyssa has much better taste in colors than Kyle. Limestone FTW!
The Rivian SUV with 400 mi range will be a winner.
Crhome slats , vinyl roofs , wood panels , over wide car stop lights is American legends car on very IMPORTANT parts /desings to regnonazed that is made in USA . Simply like that.
Kyle, thanks for the great vid on the R1S. One measurement I have not seen anyone do is the interior length from rear lower tailgate all the way to the infotainment screen, as well as to the front windshield. The measurement would be useful for folks who load long objects such poles, paddles, or a 10’ longboard surfboard by folding down the 3rd row and 2nd row middle seat pass through.
Are you able to measure this?
Bump
Love this style of freestyle video!
I wasn't really sure of Rivian Blue. But, now I'm sold!
Could you speak to the change in handling and ride quality between wheel and tire options? Cheers!
The best ride comes in the 21s with embarrassingly smooth tires. The best handling comes in the 22s. The best looking only set that is appropriate for a vehicle with these capabilities are the 20s. The are the most forgiving and low speeds and really great tires for all conditions
Keep up the good work gang
Yeah I think I just heard you say that all the safety driving features go off but the cruise when using the towing mode with electrical hook up? I ordered an r1s but My sq8 does keep all safety features while towing.
We have a deposit on a R1T but I'm still gonna watch allll the R1S videos because I'm super curious.
I would like to see efficiency/range test with roof top box. I think it would a common use case for Skiers.
Most car seat friendly seats don’t matter because you can’t use latch once a child reaches 35-45 lbs depending on the car seat so using the belt is the only option. It’s works ok if the belt is integrated into the seat but when it’s on the pillar it doesn’t matter for 3rd row access. Then they have to go through the hatch or climb over.
Kyle...in a hoodie...doing a review! Who'd a thunk? Kidding aside, thanks again Kyle and Team for a great review. Would look nice beside my Mach-E
Don't remember if I've said this before but Kyle reminds me of the friends I would grab drinks with back in the day.
The R1T is fantastic and I love mine, but man, the R1S is awesome. Wish they hadn’t killed the 5 seat version.
It's tough because they can each do things the other can't. It'll feel a bit better having R1T when R1S is more common :)
Yep, have no desire for the third row.
curious to see second row comparison, particularly with kids and car seats.
You can still pull the 3rd row easily. And if you want a flat floor make a shelf and find matching carpet
I'd love to see you put the donut on in the middle of a trail and let us know how it feels. I already consider a spare a necessary mod for real offroading for the R1S but would love to see what the intended solution actually does.
Good intro review. Don’t quite understand the reason for the split rear hatch? I guess if one had something long it might not slide out to the rear as easily with the lower hatch closed?? The big bump in the rear floor with all the seats down seems like a miss for convenience for use of the area. Makes it difficult to slide things in from the rear towards the middle row seats. Also, for loading lumber. What’s the width and length of the rear area. Can one carry a 4x8 sheet of plywood or Sheetrock? What’s the loading height dimensions to the rear of the “tailgate” with the suspension at its lowest vs. highest? Thanks again.
Hope to see some live streams during the testing!
How does the Meridian sound system compare to the Bowers and Wilkins in the BMW iX you tested?
HI Kyle about the second row child seat thing If I remember right the Volkswagen atlas as a seat that a baby seat can stay into position and you can still get access to the 3 rd row.
i agree with you on the rear end looking a bit odd, feels like it needs a rear spoiler to give it a little more depth.
You know, Rivian could just implement a on/off feature based on customer personal preference to automatically air down and let the car sit in the lowest mode while parked all the time. Therefore, its in the lowest mode automatically when trying to load items or ingress the car.
Here for the dog. I'm concerned about the drool from dogs into the speaker grills in the trunk 🫣 My dog would drool into my XC90s return vent in the same location 😂
Dog mode should be able to mop up dog drool.
Thank you!
3000 miles on that R1S and it looks like the inside of all 4 tires was worn down more than the rest of the tire tread. Wonder if that's just an alignment issue or if it has something to do with the geometry of the air lift system. Other than that, it looks like an awesome rig though I could never afford one.
Towing test with a airstream basecamp would be a good way to see what the consumption is like with something small and aerodynamic.
one must have the rivian should implement as soon as possible is a 7-11kW onboard inverter to power stuff like the ford has.
That will have to come from a pretty serious redesign based on what ive seen in an R1S teardown. Likely will come but zero chance it does in the next couple years
Having that split tailgate means that when you pop the gate, the bottom will prevent anything thst has shifted from falling out. Likes tomatoes in the top of the groceries, after the bags shift.
Not such a bad idea!
Also gives a great place to sit and change or eat lunch like the gear tunnel door
I wonder how well stove gap covers will work in those rails?
I think this might be the best vehicle ever made. I want one so bad!!!!!!!!
I have an R1S on order and AFAIK the crossbars are the same part no as the ones used for the R1T, they basically mount on same part of the roof and same widtg
The shorter wheelbase is great for off-road. Is the approach and departure angle as good or better than the R1T?
Better, is my understanding.
Approach is the same departure us obviously much better
With the 2nd and third row seats down, how long a sleeping area can you create? (Tailgate closed.)
I’d love to see a side by side by side of a full size Chevy Tahoe, Ford Expedition and R1S.
In Rivian Stories, someone has developed a set of photo overlays to compare the R1S to many SUV makes and models, including the Tahoe and maybe also the Expedition.
Recently saw the Rivian outside of an REI and had a 15 minute conversation with the new owner. Really nice design, even better in person. Love everything about it (except the headlight design). On a related note, i just don't get the Cyber truck. It will be anti-climactic when it finally comes out.
I felt sorry for Alyssa 😂 i love this car.
Kyle: well this is rubbish, this is bad, my God Range Rover is better at that 😂
Alyssa, just smiles and meditates 👍🏾 I still like it.
Kyle STOP 😂
Rivian just moved my R1S date from First Half 2023 to Oct-Dec 2023. 😭 Enjoying my GV-60 while waiting. 🙃
Can’t wait to get one in the UK. Will you guys come over and show us how to drift it. Lol
A piece of wood, as opposed to rubber, with one edge routered into a T shape (viewed from the end) would work for those rear channels.
It would.havr been nice if you can mount the camp kitchen at the back of the third row Seats where you can pull the kitchen and cook.
I think a smart vinyl wrap company could make a body color matched wrap, just to cover the roof and C & D pillars. THAT would be a sharp and simple fix.
Need to test the efficiency with the donut spare on.
Cool dude💙💙
Her ears perked up when she heard "It's got girth"
Can we also get a real life scenario with a family of six heading to the airport. We travel by plane to CA and across seas so suitcase are always a issue. We also travel across country by car, so to see a real life example with 2 car seats & a crap ton of suitcases/ supplies.
Most R1S have a single magnet front trunk floor and don’t have a 12V.
Need to see a dog try to jump into the back of the R1S. It seems higher than most other SUVs.
How many Banana boxes can you get in it? HaHa
In "Pet Comfort", are the driver's (and front passenger's) window switches disabled? With my Tesla, in "Dog Mode" Manchester Terrier rolls down the windows for my other two dogs to hop out and run into traffic. I refuse to leave my dogs in the car alone because of that. I've been begging to have all the window switches disabled in Dog Mode, but so far, no dice.
And before anyone suggests it, "Window lock" can be overridden by the driver's position window switches, even in Dog Mode. The front passenger's window also operates with window lock activated.
u r absolutely right about the chrome accent in the back.
chrome is completely passe, it needs to be blacked out .
FOR WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBILITY: 1. What’s the width of the rear door opening? 2. Is the 2nd row floor flat with the 2nd row seats removed? What’s the front seat to ground measurement at the lowest settings?
please also for the first time check how good the trip planner works, especially with respect to prediction of energy consumption based on terrain, speed, weather,... I dont care so much about the average consumption on a specific road but more how good the planner finally works for longer trips and how reliable it works
From what I gather from Rivian forums it’s not great and nothing like Tesla’s. Not entirely rivian’s fault since they have to rely on 3rd party charging networks. So you’ll still have to reply on ABRP and PlugShare for road-tripping, unlike tesla. With time it will get better but that will take years.
@@miami3863 interesting bcs most german and korean evs that I checked in the last montsh works similr good or sometimes even better than Tesla here in Europe. But the Mustang MachE has also problems :)
Better Route planner is better than anything anyone else has
@@mattbrew11 you can go back and forth with which one is better. But the simplicity and convenience of Tesla’s native onboard route planner is still unmatched. ABRP is good but then most people also use PlugShare to confirm if the chargers are open or if they’re any good. And then a dozen apps to charge. To EV enthusiasts that’s fun. To the general public that’s a turnoff.
Wish you guys could compare this vehicle to the Land Rover lr3/4 regarding 2nd and 3rd row headroom and highway comfort.
Think it’s a shame the R1S didn’t keep the same wheel base as the R1T and just shortened length by just 1 foot instead of 2. That would have allowed for square second row doors and made reaching the 3rd row easier, full one piece windows that fully open, and probably maintained similar towing capability of the R1T. Also it’s a complete miss to not have the 3rd row powered like literally all other manufacturers (hell my 2011 Lincoln Navigator L has it).
Guess I will be waiting for the EV version of the ford expedition max or Lincoln Navigator L.
For car reviews considering babies, check out “the car mom” she raves about the ford expedition and Lincoln Navigator.
the dream would be an R1T that looks like a 4Runner 3rd series!
I have an etron like yall...well, this is my third etron 🥴 and my question is: Is the quality level in this car the same as the etron? I don't want hard plastics, or hollow sounding panels......I love the etron because of how everything I touch--even down to the knee pads in the center console for the front seats-- are leather and feel great.
The R1S seems like a Premier level Tahoe or Denali GMC....but it doesn't feel look like it competes with a luxury German/British SUV
I would say part of that is by design; it’s rugged and cheaper feeling than out and out luxury products because it has this “adventure” vibe going on. The materials feel high quality and durable but not soft. Door quality and mechanical parts seemed really solid and up to par with price rivals like the German products. Functionally though, the manual second and third row seats will feel cheaper compared to the competition.
Looks so much like the Grand Wagoneer on the rear side view
Hi, can you plz do Audio system comparison between R1T vs R1S
R1S has more speakers and watts
How much space is there behind the third row with it up?
You two are great together! I love the different perspectives you both give. It's nice to see. I am a huge Rivian fan boy....will they be reducing the price? They are out of most people price range.
Far as I know they do have cheaper models planned with 2 motors instead of the current 4 motors that the R1T and R1S come with.
SHOWING THE FOLLOWING WOULD BE GREAT…
FULL SPACE USABILITY WITH MIX AND MATCH STARTING FULL SIZE LUGGAGES AND ADDING FOR WHATS LEFT SMALLER SIZE LUGGAGES WHEN THIRD ROW IS UP AND IN A 6 SEAT CONFIGURATION WHEN ONLY ONE OF THE THIRD ROW SEATS WOULD BE UP. HOW MANY PIECES CAN GO IN INCLUDING WITH THE EXTRA SPACE IN THE FRONT TRUNK AND THE ADDITIONAL SPACE TAKING OUT THE SPARE TIRE UNDERNEATH THE FLOOR.
I wonder if the towing capacity is reduced due to the added weight of the bigger cabin, and extra seats compared to the R1T. This additional weight would reduce payload capacity, and in turn, decrease the towing capacity overall. Also, they could be accounting for 6 adults in the SUV while towing, which would again, eat into the payload, and therefore the towing capacity.
It’s most likely due to the shorter wheelbase
Would like to get your experience with idle energy drain/reduction on the R1S.