Rivian R1S 70-MPH Highway Range Test (135kWh Large Pack Quad-Motor)
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- Опубликовано: 31 окт 2022
- Kyle hops in the Rivian R1S to perform our usual highway range test! Join him as he finds out just how far this SUV will go with the 4 motor, 135kWh, all-terrain wheel / tire variant at a 70mph constant speed in a loop-style test. The official EPA estimate for the Large battery pack with Quad-Motor is 316 miles.
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As a European, love to see those American roads. Great test and video as always!
Thanks Kyle. Revisiting this after your tests on the max pack. Changed my configuration back to quad motor R1S with all terrain tires
From Rivian, "The Dual-Motor and 21" wheel combination is the most efficient, with the 20” and 22” wheels having a range reduction of 10-15% and 5-10% respectively." That means that with the 21" tires the R1S should easily reach 300-325 miles of range at highway speeds. That is better than my Model Y and great for a full size three-row SUV. And the dual-motor is expected to be even more efficient. Well done, Rivian!
same range as the model X while being way less efficient
@@a-don13 This is a Range Rover full size SUV competitor, not a crossover as the Model X. This Rivian can tow 7700 lbs, go off-road, carry Kayaks, cargo boxes and even a roof top tent. Has tons of extra cargo space, almost 15 inches of ground clearance, etc. Again, this is the quad motor version with the off-road wheels and tires. I expect the dual motor with the 21" wheels to be more efficient. It won't be as efficient as the Model X because the boxy shape of the car results in a higher drag coefficient, a trade off that many people are willing to make for a more spacious and utilitarian vehicle. On top of everything, the interior quality is just at a different level. Finally, you are saving between $28-38K if you compare apples to apples. ($92K quad motor Rivian vs $130K Plaid Model X and $84K Dual motor Rivian vs $112K LR Model X.)
@@ThePacalino I was impressed with the R1S but this range test tipped the scale for me tbh.
Generally for people wanting to buy an SUVs at this price range (assuming all Tesla models drop back down to normal pricing eventually and all Rivian models stays the same) the model X is so much quicker, way more efficient, and has a more comfortable 3rd row seating (which was surprising to me considering the boxy shape the R1S has). On paper I had R1S over model X few months ago but now it's slipped down for me.
At 135 kW, it's got almost twice the battery size of a Model Y, but also less efficient.
Awesome test Kyle!
How lovely that you meet a e-transit van and you were the inspiration for them buying it. Well done!
Thanks Kyle!
That dome was doppler weather radar
Pretty solid result for a real-world 70 mph test! Considering it’s a full off-roading rig shaped like a brick. Just surprising that R1T is slightly more efficient.
So rated for 314 and comes in at 285?
@@testing12357 With the 20in wheels the car is spec'd with its rated at 276miles, 316 miles if you go with the 21 road tires. So actually a few miles above rated epa
Kyle, you produce the best, most useful videos - thank you!
Great video! As always! Wonder what would be the range with street tires? Maybe 5%-10% more?
Can’t get enough R1s content thank you! Really considering ordering one of these regardless of the wait time. Gives more time to save lol.
LOL! It's the only thing that gets me through waiting for my reservation to build!🤣🤣🤣
Very useful
Would love to see an in the mountains test.
Kyle needs to find his Espa bun equivalent.
That sphere looks to be some sort of Doppler Radar. BTW there are no Starlink Ground Stations in Colorado. Closest to Fort Collins would be Evanston, Wyoming. There is also one in Dumas, Texas and another Inman, Kansas.
Finally.. Thank you
Thanks for another in depth vid. I'm really interested in this test for the max pack with 21".
If it does a similar ratio to test vs claimed range that might equate to 360 miles between charges.
It's pretty impressive with the big all terrain tires.
love this suv
Have you determined if the R1S has the same vampire power drain issue as the R1T, or has that been solved in both?
Getting this as a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 4xE (PHEV) replacement. I had to get off road capabilities because I did that with 』 I'd be curious to do a off road range test because on jeep I'd get 22 to 24 mpg on roads and never more than r miles off oad before gas engine kicked on.
I do like the sound of the quad motor on this truck! Love the side and rear profiles look too; the front is growing one, nut never displease me
Rivian has all wheel sizes/variants for sale on the website. Pricing is listed there and then you need to call them to place the order.
Holy Smokes! Great Video!
You're wrong about those wheels! They are the best looking! :)
Ah so "Neat" = "Not appealing at all" ... I LOL'd when you said that here because in your other video with the family and R1S, you said "Okay neat" when everyone realized how tight the legroom is with infant carseats.... NEAT!
Very close to R1T!
That Dome is probably a Doppler Radar Station.
As far as wheels, I'd get the off road pack with rhe protection for off road and have service center add 21" road tires to have both. Though having 20 inch off road is fine. I was used 35s on my Jrrp
That's the weather radar used by Colorado State University at their Horticulture Field Research center :)
I considered a rivian for my business (drive around 340mi/day) or hybrid f150. Can't seem to find a EV with enough range but would love a rivian
289 miles very impressive considering all terrain tires at these highway speeds and 10 kWh buffer to absorb some of degradation over 300k mile or so lifespan.
Until these EVs reach the same distance as ICE is when I call it impressive...until then not impressed.
I don’t want to be that guy but I do agree. I want an EV but for $70k plus on less than 300 miles range is a no go for me. I ended up buying Accord Hybrid with 500-600 miles to the tank haha
@@acatic80oh I didn’t realize you drove 289 miles every single day
@@jakeschwindt7393 some people do
@@acatic80ev's have similar range to cars in the 1980's into the early 2000's. Some exceptions, but by and large true.
We're all electric and travel is so much more relaxed. You can't drive 600 miles without a stop and you shouldn't. With our model Y long range we go roughly 200 miles then plug in at a customer care center and add about 150 miles while we use the bathroom and stretch our legs. At level 3 chargers that takes 15 min.
I drive my model 3 Performance between 250 and 280 miles per day. It costs me about $70 per month to drive that much. I was spending $900 per month in my Subaru outback plus oil changes once a month.
Both cars were well under $50k each after the tax credits.
Waiting isn't bad because EV's are only going to come down in price as battery tech improves. We're choosing to enjoy them now because for us they pencil.
Screw the moderate weather tests…I want to see a range test in 30 degrees or lower. Where I live I get 4 months of that type of temp usually.
What’s the iPhone holder? Like that it leans on dashboard. Thanks.
Lansat station. Could be for weather, or may be for data purposes.
How much did it cost to charge the batteries backup
what "wind" app are you guys using?
Will be interesting to see range test only on Conserve mode :)
Did the interior lights charge to red on its own?
Does it finally have a heat pump?
That dome looks like a weather radar dome.
What do similar petrol and diesel cars get?
Great video,Kyle, my guess was 290.. love those vehicles
neat station wagon
How much does it cost to charge the rivian? If it’s 40 cents at a charger, would the math be, 135 x .40 = 55 dollars for a full 100% charge?
That is the full battery size, you won't deplete all the way down to 0 kW. You are correct on math, but an ICE SUV would be significantly more to fill with gas. Also, most American's can charge for a fraction of that at home (for my Tesla I pay .04 per kW). So I can fill my car for roughly $3-$4.
An idea for your reviews - tires.
Ok, so hold on here for a bit - I don’t mean like Tire Rack reviews.
I mean as to how it impacts range and, maybe over time, how well the hold up.
Obviously, one must make sure they are good (safe, stop well, good handling, etc)
Why am I bringing this up?
Well, I have long been a Yokohama tire fan - from tack tires to performance road tires to GT tires.
However, after having played with and researched the new Cross Climate 2 tires from Michelin, I picked them when needing to replace my Tesla Model S tires that were Yokohama AVID GTs (a great tire for the PNW as it does really well in the rain and the cool mornings on my drive to work and still handle well on the dry days on the drive home)
The Cross Climate 2 tires are really amazing in the snow and cold - but we don’t get snow often enough to justify dedicated winter tires on my daily driver. They are very close to as good as dedicated winter tires but they don’t suck in warmer, drier times.
*HOWEVER* there is a big difference between the AVID GTs and the Cross Climate 2: I get around 17% less range with the Cross Climate 2. (That is at best and in same conditions)
This made me think about what the range of difference in driving efficiency is for tires of similar quality. (I don’t really care about ultra-efficient tires that have horrid stopping distances, etc - tires are the key to safety as they are what keep the car on the road and translate all of your inputs into actual motion)
The other thing that is interesting is tire life on EVs - but that is being potentially covered elsewhere. The reason I am bringing this up is that you do so much with range and efficiency reviewing, there is a whole additional factor that would need to be looked at.
PS - I think the Yokohama AVID GTs were actually better than the Tesla OEM tires - they handled well, had slightly less road noise, and may have been a bit better in efficiency (don’t have the right data for that as the travel habits changed around the same time I had to replace the OEM tires with the AVIDs so the data is not directly comparable)
Ideaal tempearture for EV-s are 12 C until 21 C / 53.5 until 70 F . Wind 0 until 9 m/sec = 0 -21 mph .
Great test, I was able to put 290 miles on my R1T with 70 miles left on the battery. That was the max I was able to do. Average speed was like 60mph traffic and all. East cost NY to ATL.
So you were the one holding up traffic 😂
@@tpike32 new video coming average speed 67 mph Atl - Charlotte 280 miles on 90% battery 60 miles left.
@@tpike32 good one tho 🤣 I was going speed limit for the most part. Some traffic slowed me down so it helped with range. Thanks to DC road work avoid at all cost.
Truck shape is more aerodynamic than a squared SUV. Smaller backend helps
The dome (20:04) could be a doppler radar
edit: don't think it is. doesn't correlate with the doppler radar map
While I really like the 70mph tests you do, I'd also really like to see 80mph as I (and many people I see on the highway/freeways) probably are closer to that speed most of the time. 2.3miles/kwh hour is already painful in terms of cost to charge and time it takes to do so...I am really curious what that drops to at a more common highway speed for many of us (heck, it is the speed limit in a growing number of areas).
We already have this video posted, check out the one before this
I cruised 80 in our Cayenne, but now only 70 in our RX. I can’t imagine 80 in a brick like the Rivian R1S!
Atmospheric air pressure makes a huge difference. What was it today vs when you did the truck?
Source for your statement on it being “huge”
you mean wind??
My anxiety level just shot up with 0% charge! LOL!
Yes, suspenseful!
Also, the mile of off road is kind of "perfect" for the very off-road capable vehicle :)
Ive noticed that a good general rule of thumb is to subtract 50 miles from the rated range. Sometimes 75 depending on the driver.
According to Rivian which says on those tires it should only get 276 miles. This proves it does better than the EPA advertised range.
Still no Apple CarPlay?
Typical Kyle complaining about the car infront going 25 mph while passing numerous signs showing speed limit of 25 😂
It derinitely needs wind seperators at the back of wehicle.
I have to imagine 1 mile of dirt road really affect the test though.
"the typical Kum 'N Go."
HEHEHEHE
So $90.000 and you need to be mindful of the wind, the inclination of the terrain, the weight you are carrying, have scientific applied tire pressure, external weather conditions.
I guess more Rivians for you
The S is 2 miles more by the EPA not two less.
280 miles on full charge for that price could be better. Who will want to buy it used in a few years when it gets sub 200 miles in cold weather on a used battery when newer Rivians will likely have much better efficiency due to better BMS/batter/drivetrain/heat pump/motors.
Apple Watch Ultra...nice.
Keeping momentum? Does Kyle not know that driving slow is more efficient? :)
Dome is a Weather Radar
Whatever your future holds. The Tonka comment you made. Made my day.
you did a rolling stop at the stop sign :) (Nitpicking!!)
Would the dual motor get better range or worse range?
I'm guessing better range because less power demands with fewer motors
Not sure, I know conserve mode that he used on this test deactivated 2 of the motors…so we was technically using dual motor already. Different setup on the motors of course, so not sure how that will affect efficiency.
dome. looks like a VOR station for aircraft
Yeah that’s radar
I love the R1S, but its far too expensive.
Spending $90K+ for any electric vehicle simply makes no financial sense. I do agree that it is nice to have the money to throw around. Maybe I will win the Powerball jackpot.
Especially when you can buy a Chevy Bolt EV for $34K fully loaded.
Spending $80-90k on a nice Tahoe/Expedition/etc doesn't make financial sense either, but they are all over the place.
You're complaining about others going under the speed limit?
No, he's complaining about others going the posted speed limit. On Halloween, with trick or treaters.
@@RealGaryGR No, he's complaining about people going under the speed limit. That's how he got stranded in the F-150 Lightning. 25:02. He's even going under the 75 limit on interstate.
So basically the range is 200-210 in real world. An ok range and a terrible charging time. We are clearly not there yet. Batteries should be 0-100% in less than 15 minutes to make this technology reasonable. Also we need at least 10,000x more charging stations. Until then, gasoline wins all day long.
People forget Telsa X/Y are lighter and only have dual motors at best the Rivian has quad motors - everything is give and take ;)
plaid has three
70 mph. No one does that. Posted I-70 is 75 and everyone is doing 80-85. Also when a normal person gets down to 30 or 20 SOC they are looking for a charger. At any rate. You drive for 2 hours and charge for a day at Kum and Go? LOL!! Too funny!
48 psi is really high...wow
It’s not
Really need the Max Pack for this to be a true adventure vehicle, which by definition means long road trips at 75+ mph. Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe has close to 400 miles of range. The massive new Toyota Sequoia has almost 500. Subpar range combined with all the other things you don't get with a Rivian are ultimately going to be the downfall of the company.
And the Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe has the huge advantage of fueling up on road trips. 5 min gas stops vs 30+min stops at a problematic DC fast charger in a full EV. I've got the same powertrain in my Wrangler 4xe, love it!
Show me a test where a sequoia get 500 miles of range at 75-80mph 😭 maybe at 60-65 but definitely not 80mph plus
Fair enough on the Sequoia point, but most vehicles benchmark around 65. My Rivian averages 1.75 mi/Kwh driving around 80, which translates to about 230 max range. No bueno for an adventure vehicle
@@daadreeb6582 that’s better than my pos 2022 model 3 long range and 2021 model y long range. The model 3 I can’t get anything more than 270 100-6 percent the model 3 I went from 100-3 percent and only got 220miles at 70mph in fl with no hills. Air temp at 72
I don't consider driving on a paved highway an adventure. The R1T can do some good tricks offroad though that no other EVs can.@@daadreeb6582
pretty sure thats a water tower lol
I don’t like the fact of being conservative while charging. It’s like you compromising while trying a premium car. Do a video where you driving like you do regular ice cars. No compromise in speed features no nothing then we can see the real mileage.. also this thing won’t give 200 miles in harsh conditions heck even 200 is being generous.
Or get the 20s on the R1S and swap them with your R1T 22s 😅
Maybe I can trade in all 4 of my cars to get this... Ughh Wish it was below $70k..
@@JimSpence Your maintenance on the plug in hybrid will be cheaper too. I never needed break pads on my BMW 530e nor my Pacifica Hybrid and put over 70k miles on each of those before I got rid of them. I only had 2 oil changes on each as well. Still prefer my full EVs though. Hopefully GM will make these more affordable with the Equinox and other models.
@@JimSpence Disagree on saving money on the EVs that are in the $40ks. I have an ID4 and I am saving a ton of money in fuel. Once you get above $65k, the savings are a wash or gone.
Your Rivian coverage is great, but it's a really bad look to carry on about how slow someone is driving when they're going the posted speed limit. On Halloween, with trick or treaters in sight. You should reflect on that.
Yep he drives to fast there and complained on camera like a total prick.
Just looked up the price of one of these in canada. $105,000 for a GOD DAMN SUV FML !! no thanks !!
How much does a comparable equipped Range Rover go for there (Panasonic roof, highest horse power, Meridian sound system, etc)?
@@fpartidafpartida Who the F would buy a Range rover ? those are the worst vehicles on the road, not only do they suck ! they are the fastest depreciating vehicle !.. BTW what's a Panasonic roof ?
Talk less, stay focused, edit these videos and delete unneeded or irrelevant commentary and content.
26:30 289 miles at 70 mph is your answer. Not very impressive with that size battery pack. 😢. Wait till degradation kicks in. Remember too, this was unladen. Add towing or pax and gear and your mileage will drop substantially.
Yes, but it's a truck. Drag coefficient has to be way high.
So over 4 hours of driving at highway speed without stopping? Not bad!
Also pax and gear will affect highway range very little. Most of the energy spent at 70mph is aerodynamic drag.
I agree 289 miles is great for an ev. But for that size pack, everyone was expecting more, for reference the Tesla model x does the same or so with 100kwh.
@@bm4122 Yep but that makes all the sacrifices for aero.
You complained about someone going really slow at the end of your journey. I don't think it was that slow, and I will let you into a secret that most people know. Most forms of mechanical powered transport go further if driven slowly. This is especially true of EV's. Do you actually know what you are talking about ?
When the battery is dead at the end of his 70 mph tests, speed is important as he is trying to coast into the station. Its physics. If a car is going 50 mph and has no power left, it will coast/glide a further distance than if that same vehicle was going 25 mph. Watch more of his videos. You will find out Kyle knows what he is doing.
@@gregpochet4812 He apparently doesn't from a safety perspective. Very disappointing...
@@gregpochet4812 Even if it means running over a few trick or treaters. I hope this guy never has children.
driving 25mph and having to constantly accelerate vs going 40 mph and taking it easy is vasty different, going slow the vehicle has to work harder to get going again. Some of my worst efficiency is when I'm driving slowly with a feather foot around town vs just going a near constant 30-50 mph
Truck for the rich
Why not just drive normal
I like your President Trump hair style