Why I'm Not a Fan of Orangetheory Fitness
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2022
- Orangetheory Fitness is holding the fitness industry back. In this video, CEO and Founder of Gymnazo EDU Michael Hughes shares his opinions about what he doesn’t like about OTF (and other boutique HIIT workout gyms like F45, Barry’s, etc.), what you didn’t know about orangetheory fitness, what you should be wary of and more.
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Thanks for watching! What are your thoughts on Orangetheory and other franchise boutiques like it?
I'm sorry I wasted 11 minutes watching this video. Seems like you're promoting your own business. OTF works for me.
Thanks for the video, Michael. I'm a middle-aged man that has had dozens of gym memberships over the years and
The thing I do like about OT is that it gets people moving that might never have moved. Hopefully some of these folks graduate to going somewhere else to doing fitness that is actually more science based. You are right on a lot of levels. Resistance training is where it is at. Not cardio.
You spent 11 minutes saying what OTF does wrong but providing clear examples of those movements would actually give you some credibility. Not OFT fan at all btw
Mmm, I hear what you are saying, but the best fitness program in the world is pretty useless if you don't stick with it - that's my problem with most gyms and other fitness offerings. People tend to stick with OTF - it's incredibly fun. I've been a member for over four years and I've learned an amazing amount about proper form even though I've been a medium range jogger and active in resistance training for over 40 years. Is OTF perfect?, of course not, but I love going and have built strong relationships there with like-minded folks. I still do a couple of nights a week at Planet Fitness to fill in my weight training gaps, but OTF keeps me motivated and keeps my 60 year old body feeling pretty damn good. I think you make some excellent points - just wanted to throw in my .02...
Hard to trust a video that puts down a recognizable brand in order to then create an advertisement for their own.
I agree but also disagree; I don’t think OTF should be the only thing you do if your an athlete or goal is building muscle. But doing OTF 2/3 times per week to get a good cardio burn, and learn new exercises is fantastic. Also in 2023 the templates have been significantly improved and redesigned with new movements. I have never run into untrained coaches. Experience may vary.
I love OTF. It makes me feel great.
While these critical videos have valid points, what we are actually seeing in reality is that OTF works, and people are sticking with it. The definition of “sustainable” needs a bit of nuance and rethinking. Is there any sport, for example, that is sustainable over a lifetime? Yet nobody argues that people should refrain from playing any sport, really. There are many, many OTF goers who have been there for almost a decade. What we also see, is that there are many OTF goers who do it for a few years, then transfer their confidence and skill to a more traditional gym where they can scale their regime better. It’s simply not the reality that people are injuring themselves in droves and it’s not helpful to imply that OTF is dangerous (I can’t speak for some of the more intense boutique fitness gyms like CrossFit or F45) because it deters people from trying for themselves. Additionally, I hear the criticism that at certain studios, coaches aren’t correcting bad forms enough. So is going to a traditional gym where you’re completely unsupervised the better alternative for “normal” people?
Orange TF will survive and it works depending on your goal. If you need personal coaching and a sense of community, it is by far the most affordable option. It is the only option I could afford. It provides structure, consistency and a guaranteed calorie burn that a lot of people are unable to achieve on their own. It gets you moving. Yes, you are right in that you need to combine it with a more comprehensive workout routine and proper nutrition but this is no reason to not do OTF. You are also right in that one must not over do it or one can cause repetitive stress injury. I love and rec OTF to anyone who can see the value it provides.
Not everyone wants to be an athlete. It gets people moving so they have a better quality of life and it's cookie cutter so they can talk to their friends about it and everyone is included. "How was that work out today?" "Oh my gosh I'm going later." "Wow you did 8mph on the tread today?"
I’m a fairly devoted OTF’er and I don’t disagree with anything you said. I reserve time to do my own dynamic warmups, mobility and cooldown. I’ve brought up the lack of these to the studio owner too.
What do you recommend for men in their early 40's?
Appreciate you sharing your thoughts. I agree with some of the points here, specifically lack of cool down/warm up and not enough emphasis on proper form/movement quality. Also, totally agree about the “orange theory after burn effect.” The extra calorie burn in the hours after class is vastly exaggerated and not backed well by the science.
Thank you for looking after people's benefits over profit.
Very cool video!! Great insights 👏
I love OTF, good results and it keeps me going !!!!
I live in Austin and back in '20 we were hit by the massive gym closure that affected everyplace else, only we were carpeted (almost) by 24 Hour Fitness clubs. Most of those closed in their bankruptcy reorganization plan, but the one near me which was 1 of 4 that was supposed to survive didn't. Up my street a new OTF opened, 5 minutes away, which I joined. From the very start I had problems, in that, try as I would to get answers from them as to how I could integrate this with my gym workouts (expecting those to be possible soon again), I got none. The head coach wouldn't show and discuss with me templates for classes she had recently lead, and when I travelled to another OTF on the other side of town (22 miles away) because I saw he had a football player build and in class (he guested at our studio), he gave me largely the same treatment. Yes, he did explain the differences between the 3 workout types (endurance vs strength vs power) but again I never saw how these could play into what I design and do for myself. He basically implied by ignoring this linkage that I need to sign up for unlimited classes at OTF (for maximum gain with them) and skip going to the gym. He took my picture with us side-by-side, sporting big smiles and giving the "splayed finger" splat point hand sign, to keep me happy. "Great salesmanship !" I thought. As you pointed out in your video they're great at marketing psychology. My overall experience is that most of the coaches (90% women, which is fine by me) though athletic are NOT athletes ! They've gone to ACE or NASM or NSCA or whomever for their CPT, but they don't know, especially from sports use of their bodies in their own lives and possibly from schooling, what they're leading and why they're leading it : whether it succeeds for the physical consequences of those particular people in their classes, or it fails. They just enthusiastically bark out a template. I must also say I've participated in 2 "Mayhem" workouts right before summer, but backed out of, after 2 classes into it, an October "Hell week" workout. Had I not, I would have injured my left knee because in doing high numbers of squats, if you go down too low (break the horizontal), it becomes a knee exercise, rather than a quad + glute. I have benefited from OTF in getting very close now to running a 6 minute mile, and I regularly equal people 20 years under me in time times / distances (I'm 62), but I fear I may be jeopardizing this (thank God no injuries yet), have reduced my contract to 4 classes per month (I otherwise train at home having all the same equipment) and will cancel it in August. I may buy a class card to show up when I want, say 20 times a year (have been doing 8 per month). We have more gyms now, I will row on Town Lake this summer, and intend to smarten myself up with some books to become my own PT (I have Bill Pearl's excellent "Getting Stronger" from way back in the 80's, a superb text for sports conditioning). I will probably check out your online classes and may stop out to SLO to say high and maybe even spend a week. A college landlord whom I worked for lives there (Scott Starkey, maybe you know him ?) and I would like to see him too. I believe that if in whatever I do I can't do it intelligently and with excellence, it's not worth doing ! OTF has certainly inspired / perspired me as you noted, but apart from cardio gains it's a dark tunnel. Here's to the light which you guys are trying to turn on ! Sorry about the length here. Ed in Austin
I've seen so much bad form in these boutique gyms and the trainers just yell, keep going!