Magic - Two way switch wiring made easy with a kinetic wireless switch.
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- Опубликовано: 7 мар 2020
- We take a look at a new kinetic switch system which is ideal for two way light switch wiring.
A quick and easy way to convert one-way circuits into a two way switch with no additional wiring.
In a previous video, we looked at an EnOcean switch with a separate receiver. This version, by Quinetic, uses a similar energy harvesting technology. The Quinetic version has a master switch with a built-in wireless receiver and relay. The master switch can be paired with other Quinetic wireless switches to form two way and three-way (intermediate) switch configurations.
The master switch does not need a neutral connection. A great way to add an additional light switch location in bedrooms and hallways. A huge time saver for electricians, avoiding the need for additional wiring, chasing and two way switch connections.
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I love a magic switch ❤️
GSH Electrical ... they should have used that as a trade / product name 🤔
Thank you for the demo 👍
Love this gents! 👌🏻🙌🏻
Thanks as always for your support Dan 👍
Excellent switch love this. Clever sparkys will use this all day long to reduce time and costs. Gaz your the man
Brilliant switches and brilliant video. Well done guys.
Awesome video guys. Gaz was like an excited puppy 😂
Thanks Richard... just being me 🐶
Gaz is always like an excited puppy !! 😀
Informative and educational as always. I am considering using this tech in my home make over.
Absolutely brilliant !
I've this product and it worked a treat.
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This was very informative and funny! Thank you! 🙂
Wonderful video lads 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
I love love love this and I am not talking about just the tech. Banter..... :)
I will use it from Monday 100%
Quality video again
good video lads
We are currently using these throughout a 500 year old cottage that can’t have the wall touch. Such a great idea. Still find it funny my old man is a old time spark and still doesn’t get it hahah
Really rapid Gaz👏👏👏
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Electric plugs have been out for years, got some for my tv.
A rather sensible R&D from the previous inventions...👍👍
A quick question, is it possible for a single remote switch be paired to more than one receiver base unit i.e one(1) master Remote Switch controlling two(2) Receiver base unit simultaneously??🤔
Love the video. Great presentation. Can you get similar with built in receiver for thin light switch built into door frame?
Or could you use the two cables to the light switch to wire to receiver and then blanking plate over (I don't actually need that light switch)? Advice would be welcome.
PMSL. Love Gaz’s humour...
Great video thanks would be interesting to see working with led bulbs and service life may be only five years.
Can these be controlled via Wi-Fi and used as a smart switch?
Hey Gary, have you come across a gadget called Walabot in wall imager, seems it's only reliable for dry wall though and not so good for concrete and plaster.
I love the Quinetic range. I have installed the versions with the controllers that go next to the light fitting. I now have a client that wants his two way circuit made into three way, how is that achieved? Do we install the switch with the controller in the first point then cable out the other switch and add two Qinetic switches?
I would like to use one of these switches and connect it to two receivers? Use case is an indoor switch to switch on outdoor lights together, some on the outside of the garage, and some on the outside of the house. I know you can have multiple switches to one receiver, but can you have one receiver to multiple switches? Couldn't find anything on their web site about it.
If using the grid switch version does that module also encompass the receiver module or would that have to be bought and installed separately?
Hi, I have 2x2ways switches and I want to replace only one of them with a wireless one. So I'd keep the switch upstairs as it stands while replacing the one downstairs. Would this be possible?
Can you demo how you would use this quinetic switch in an existing 2 way switch arrangement (adding a third switch) with a diagram to make it clear. Lee below had to do something similar but i would like to see one of your videos showing this.
Like the look of these Quinetic switches but i have a double switch socket in the downstairs hallway that operates the downstairs with one switch and the upstairs with the other switch. But upstairs there's a single rocker switch that only operates the upstairs light. Would it be possible to install a Quinetic switch upstairs that would operate both the upstairs light and the downstairs light and one downstairs that would operate the downstairs light and the upstairs light. Not to switch both on at the same time though.
What make are these and how far away will they work from each other
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Can I use this to replace a pull cord switch in bathroom and instead have a push switch
As usual a great presentation, with humour!!! Now where can I get the two gang grid switch mentioned at the end of the video?
On your board can you link all the three switches together ?
Hi there,
Love your videos
Can you please post a video with 2way 2gang quinetic switch?
I love the idea, I want to use it however I have with my current 2 way 2gang switch a web of cables going in it
Hey guys, I love these switches and use them regularly. Unfortunately, I did discover a limitation. I needed to create an intermediate position on a lighting circuit that shared a back box with another lighting circuit (seperate two way switching for upstairs and downstairs hall lights). The existing wiring was three plate, and the two (and three) gang receiver switches 'common' the line internally (L in, L1, L2, L3 out). In order to get the intermediate and two sets of two way to work, I had to send the downstairs switched line back up to my receiver switch position using a core of the original strapper cable with two gang wireless switch over the existing downstairs switch point. This meant the downstairs light was now being supplied by the upstairs circuit line. So at this point I have created a situation, A shared switched line crossing to another circuits Neutral. The only way I could correct this was to combine bot circuits before the OCPD.
Thanks for the feedback Lee - and the great solution to a real life problem - We bet a bit of head scratching went on when you discovered the challenge!
Hey do you have a link for these 2 way switches
Do we have a product code for this switch ??
Can this switch be used if you want a third switch. I have one switch at the bottom and one at the top of the stairs but want another switch next to the bedroom door.
Brilliant I have a 3 gang switch which feeds to 2 ceiling lights and under cabinet lights. How can I use this to make 1 ceiling light a two way so I can light the room up when I enter via the rear door?
Brilliant concept which I would like to employ. I have a 3 gang switch on a 2 plate configuration. This switch serves 2 ceiling and under cupboard lights. I would like to set up this type so that we can enter the house via the rear and use the fob to turn the kitchen light on as we get near the door.
The switch as you can imagine is crammed with cable any suggestions.
Any idea on the price of such wizardry
Will this switch work when the feed/loop etc is taken down to the switch rather than at the ceiling rose?
It will work as long as there is a permanent Line & its corresponding Switched Line...
Hi,
Very nice
Can you please share the name/place where I can buy this?
I looked it to it and found few but are not same like the one you presented.
Need the one exactly like yours.
Thank you for your guidance.
Hi ,
I am back after posting 2 years ago.
Do you have a tutorial with 2 way 2 gang switch?
Thank you
ooooh gadgets!! i like the grid switch version, wonder if it would still work with a chrome or stainless cover plate?
Fair point - one to investigate further!
look forward to that video.. keep up the good work
Love these - already got four applications for quinetic switches in my house:
1) Two way dimmer switch so that I can dim lights in a room with a door at each end (standard two way only lets you have one dimmer).
2) Added a "wall lighting circuit" in lounge so that I can turn on either ceiling or table lamps from switch by door.
3) Added switch outside bathroom as redesign left pull switch dangling behind heated towel rail.
4) the standard one where you need a switch in a different place due to a room rearrangement.
Great video.. Thanks... Can you get these in a 2 gang version?
Yes and grid switch versions
How long can these switches work for
The only hard task is convincing the customer to accept that some of the switches in their home (the ones with the receiver) have to be those bizarre square paddles that don't match with the rest of their standard grid switches? Wouldn't it be also great if they made sender units (in addition to receiver units), so you could send switching signals from other "analog" devices - for example pair timers/programmers with quinetic receivers in shops, schools and offices and allow for scheduling of the on/off times but also provide manual control from light switches for tasks performed during off times or days off etc. And I'd also like to be able to pair one switch with multiple quinetic grids simultaneously (one master switch for the entire floor/building in addition to the usual number separate switches)
You can’t have a kinetically powered sender unit via a conventional switch and a sender unit. You could have one that battery or mains powered, but that’s not what kinetic switches are, so not their USP.
anyone have a link to this product ?? like what is the Part number where can i buy it from?
The paired switch - does it use a battery? If so, how long does it last?
It uses kinetic energy of the switch operation - no batteries 🔋
NEXT STEP, 'receiver in grid switch form' !!!!
Is it possible to blank off the receiver module and put the switch on another wall? Or would I have to buy 2 switches?
The receiver needs power and wired to the light
Hi Guys, How do I convert my bedroom into a hotel-style light system. At the moment, I have a light switch that turns the main bedroom light on and 2 bedside lamps are plugged into the mains. I want a 2 gang light switch (one for the main light and the other for the bedside lamps). I also want an individual switch for each bedside lamp near them.
and the range is?
Part numbers, links to website?
Checkout TLC electrical wholesale
I assume it has batteries, how long will they last and can they be changed? Also is there an expected lifetime?
Steven Hopkins .... it uses magic, if your not in the circle then you cannot know 😂
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no batteries, kinetic energy !
@@craigpatterson4269 it must need to store the energy, I struggle to believe one operation of a switch can generate enough electricity to send that signal. Unless it's got a really long throw maybe.
@@stevenhopkins2925 google quinetic switches
I am sure there will be completely wireless switches with a sticky tape at the back and you can put whereever you want.
This is brilliant!! I was told when I started my level 2 election course that elections are wizards 🧙♂️😂😂
Change the LOAD and I would like to see how you power a fan or other electronics.
Hi. Do you have a product code please?
Just Google Quinetic - TLC Ekectrical
Why does this refuse to work with a 5ft fluorescent tube? I then changed it for a led tube and no joy but I guess this may be down to the light fitting. Works fine when tested with a corn led bulb!
Probably because there's no path for current through a conventional fluorescent fitting until it's lit.
No dimmers with kinetic switch?
Not in this model but the seperate quinetic units can be dimmable if you get right model
I’ve got a customer that wants to use a quinetic switch to operate garden lights from his shed offfice, but he also wants to be able to switch them with his existing ‘old fashioned’ switch in his kitchen.. does anyone know if this is possible? Tried contacting quinetic directly but no joy.
You’d probably have to replace the old switch with a quinetic one also - otherwise the old switch would disconnect the power to the receiver or face trek from the office to switch on the old switch.
@@efixx thanks for helping! Would that still be the case if the existing switch was wired to the load side of the receiver or directly into the first light fitting along with load from the quinetic switch. It would be powered from a separate source.
I recently used a quinetic switch with a pir flood light which worked without any issue but now my brain can’t compute that to this scenario
If the old switch is off then the lights are off. It’s tricky to work around that.
Where do you get the standard gridswitch form
TLC wholesalers 👍
The third switch you added ? I'm not seeing it listed is there a model number
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Love these switches excellent demonstration. Does Dan from dss get affiliate money for this 🤣🤣
These switches have capacitor inside to allow power to the switch without the neutral.
What happens when the switch is already 2 way and you're adding this as a third switch?
Or the switch is a 2 or 3 gang switch or even a 2 or 3 gang 2 way switch?
That’s a great question - let us think about that one and get back to you.
If you have 2 way switching already you can introduce this switch (Kinetic) at position one and disconnect the 3 core to the other 2 way switch then at position 2 introduce a kinetic switch. You then can add more kinetic switches as you like to this switching arrangement.
They ain’t cheap though - 39 quid each in tlc so minimum of nearly 80 to make a two way work. Still cheaper than hardwiring labour though .Anyone seen them at a better price ?
Some would give a kidney for the alexa modules
Some times I feel I’m still in the dark ages🙁
Since when did Jean Reno get into electricity business?
Love it 🤣
Can
This switch will reduce work electricians have, as diyers will start using them. Just look at push fit plumbers pipe to see that which can happen when you remove skill and knowledge from a job.
Why complain about innovation. This is an amazing leap forward.
Well it will help the DI's out lol, seriously dont look a bad product.
Great product. Shame about the CBBC mentality/maturity style presentation.
That's the only style of presentation you get from this channel.
Lol if you think this is magical, wait till you hear about smart switches. No limitations. Lights not only control by switches but multiple methods. You don’t even need to be at home to turn your lights on or off.
Biggest drawback with these switches is they are damm ugly and don't match any other switches in the house, if they made them to look like a normal switch, then they would be much better. They do solve a few problem in certain situations , but hard wired is much better any day.
Its Quinetic not kinetic
Yes but the name comes from kinetic energy
Is this not theoretically the beginning of the end how can any sparks like this yes it is amazing you can do it but come on! In 20 years we will be put out of a job
Loads more fun stuff for electricians to get onboard with - EV’s, battery storage , load management etc - we’ll need more electricians #morepower
@@efixx i am sceptical about wireless gear
@@maddog-na3685 The old fashioned way never kept a DIYer on a budget away from adding and changing things in their house, at least this is so simple they won't set their house on fire. Products like this can make the difference between somebody actually hiring an electrician for half an hour to add a switch without any worries, and them rather not bothering with it because of all the labour and damage that comes with adding wiring and backboxes. The electrician who can deliver this time has one foot in the door the next time that customer needs more electrical work done to their house, plus there's the free advertisement of somebody telling their friends and family how you managed to install a few extra switches in limited time without any damage or mess.
@@Candisa i am still not down with anything wireless
Wired cctv is better
Wire burglar alarm is better
Wired electrics are better .
@@maddog-na3685 That attitude will put yourself out of a job. I suppose you don't use a cellphone, 4/5G, Wi-Fi, a remote for the TV or the garage door, wireless telephone, radio...?
Just shouting "wired is better" isn't being "sceptical", it's being stubborn and being ignorant by choice, which is another word starting with stu...
Quite a useful bit of kit. Presentation would have been better without the time wasting buffoonery and over-acting. Would have been better too with out an apparently clueless assistant. Despite all the unnecessary chat, these guys did not say what sort of battery the device uses and what the expected battery life is. They also did not say what the range is. It would have been good to know if it copes with a long corridor.
No batteries required
Nice one. Straight up slapped lol
totally agree - to me it was originally not clear what there were actually trying to achieve - if they had said they are simply replacing a hard-wired switch with one with a built-in wireless switch and then adding an additional wireless switch it would have saved me thinking what the hell are they talking about ...
To silly
Gaz says sorry 👍.... 🤣
That's the only style of presentation this channel does.
Don't explain... Please....
How long can these switches work for
Around 100’000 switch operations