A World Without Beethoven? | Music Documentary with Sarah Willis (full length)
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- "What would the world be like without Beethoven?" That’s the provocative question posed by this music documentary from Deutsche Welle. To answer it, the film explores how Ludwig van Beethoven's innovations continue to have an impact far beyond the boundaries of classical music, 250 years after his birth.
What would be missing from jazz or from film music, for example, if Beethoven had never created his many innovations? Would the concert business exist as we know it today? And how has it changed the role of the artist?
Sarah Willis, horn player with the Berlin Philharmonic, sets out on an entertaining and informative journey in search of answers. She meets people from around the world - musicians, managers and even politicians - to follow the traces of Beethoven’s influence.
Sarah’s journey begins with the most famous four notes of classical music and their immense influence on pop music. "It all started with Beethoven," says Scorpions guitarist Rudolf Schenker about the preeminent role the composer’s influence has played in the development of the rock riff. Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull) speculates: "Maybe he just spilled his coffee and it happened to become 'Da-da-da-dum.'" Jazz trumpeter and Grammy winner Wynton Marsalis explains what Beethoven's last string quartet (No. 16, Op. 135) has to do with the rhythm of jazz. "Star Wars" film composer and multiple Oscar winner John Williams praises Beethoven as the master of sounds that create images. And pianist and composer Gabriela Montero adds, "His music is valid at all times.”
At the 2022 International Classical Music Awards, "A World Without Beethoven?" won the prize in the Video Documentaries category. The jury stated: “A world without Beethoven? It’s simply unimaginable. In Martin Roddewig’s film, the famous horn player Sarah Willis of the Berliner Philharmoniker travels through the realms of rock and classical music, jazz and film scores. In interviews with musicians and managers, the documentary shows how profoundly Beethoven’s innovations have shaped the music of centuries to come. This film is witty and highly entertaining.”
CHAPTER
(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:01:42) No Rock Riffs Without Beethoven?
(00:13:13) No Concert Business Without Beethoven?
(00:26:22) No Political Music Without Beethoven?
(00:38:08) No Concept Albums Without Beethoven?
(00:53:33) No Movie Soundtracks Without Beethoven?
(01:04:20) No Precise Tempo Without Beethoven?
(01:12:45) No Jazz Without Beethoven?
CAST AND CREW
Presenter:
Sarah Willis
With appearances from:
Ian Anderson (Instrumentalist, Singer and Composer)
Thomas Angyan (Director Gesellschaft der Musikfreunde 1988 - 2020)
Billy Bragg (Singer-Songwriter)
Clive Gillinson (Executive and Artistic Director Carnegie Hall)
Matthias Goerne (Baritone)
Alexander Hoetzinger (Music Producer and Drummer)
Paavo Järvi (Conductor)
Norbert Lammert (President of the German Bundestag 2005 - 2017)
Jan Lisiecki (Pianist)
Katie Mahan (Pianist)
Wynton Marsalis (Trumpeter and Director Jazz at Lincoln Center)
Gabriela Montero (Pianist and Composer)
Gaby Moreno (Singer-Songwriter)
Van Dyke Parks (Composer and Arranger)
Rudolf Schenker (Guitarist)
Johanna Staemmler (Violonist)
John Williams (Composer)
Horst Wittner (Managing Director Wittner GmbH & Co. KG)
Director:
Martin Roddewig
A production of
Bernhard Fleischer Moving Images BFMI
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I fell in love with Beethoven’s music as a young boy-it spoke to my heart in a way I couldn’t explain. To this day I still lose myself in his music-the greatest composer of all time!
Very Well said
Yes me too 💞
I TOTALLY AGREE
Beethoven is GOD!
I've tried to get into him and the other greats, but just can't do it. I do appreciate them tho for what they did for music and respect their genius. I'm actually envious of people who do "get it", cuz I bet it's amazing to get enjoyment out of it.
Beethoven is the greatest composer of all-time
No doubt
@@felixlehwalder2758 Amen 💞
No. There's no such thing as all time has not yet happened as people continue to compose music.
@@BlueBaron3339 From this point of view....ok
@@felixlehwalder2758 Thank you. I love the work of many composers, particularly Gustav Mahler, but I never thought of music as something finished. And it's all about what speaks to you. Symphonic music is nearly the reanimation of another soul and the very act of creating the music fills me with awe. I hope music on this level continues to be created as long as humans are 😌
Beethoven is my favorite composer, his spirit lives on through his music 🎶
Thank you, DW and Sarah Willis, for this wonderful, thought-provoking doc about Beethoven and his influence on so many aspects of music, and life in general. I've been having a love affair of sorts with LvB for the past several years, and the more I learn about him and his music, the more amazed I am! Sometimes I think he represents some of Mankind's highest achievement.
What a superb documentary. Perhaps some people believe that Beethoven is from a different age and old fashioned. But like other great composer's music, it endures, and will do so forever.
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Then what composer from that era wrote music that isn't old fashioned?
Well, Beethoven is from a different age and his ideals reflect this, but I doubt his music will become irrelevant any time soon and neither will his influence.
I loved Ian Anderson saying he pictures Beethoven riding around on a motorcycle! I want a T-shirt with that image on it!!
Since I was a kid (many many moons ago) I have been telling all people around me about who Beethoven was and what he created, and believe it or not many looked at me as if I was mentally disturbed. I am still learning Beethoven and he still amazes with all he created in his life. We all need a god in our lives, he is mine.
He has become my musical god, as well! Never mind the skeptics, if you can inspire even one person to experience Beethoven for themselves, your enthusiasm for LvB will have been worth the effort. 🎶💕
a great figure in history and an inspiration to all who know him!
Mine too, Babak.
Informative and entertaining documentary about the greatest composer of all time. I have been enjoying his music fo over six decades now. I never, ever tire of it.
A fantastic documentary about modernity of Beethoven! Well done Sarah!
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He was able to put his feelings, good and bad, into musical forms that everyone can relate to because we feel the same emotions. I was reminded of my youth when you showed the Kinks and Stones but had never realized how Beethoven influenced them but somehow I always knew that if he could come back to life today that within a year or so no one else would be able to compete with him in composing any form of music.
Beethoven achieves immortality through his great music. He had a difficult life: a drunken, abusive father; death of four of his siblings; the child prodigy and composer; being the bread winner for the family at the age of just 18; court musician in Bonn; going to Vienna to further his career; the mood swings and depression; the custody battle over his nephew; the deafness which took hold whilst he was still young; denying himself a long term loving relationship in order to dedicate himself to his music; the political upheavals including the siege on Vienna. Through all this adversity he composed some of the greatest music the world has known. I love Mozart too, but you often feel that Mozart's genius level was such that it all came so easily to him; Beethoven had to struggle and work at it, eg the various revisions over the years to Fidelio, his only opera. He also left his body to science, and had a great sense of humour, even though the deafness made him seem socially awkward and lost in a world of his own. Everyone in the world should get to know Ludwig van Beethoven's music. My favourites include symphonies 1, 3, 5,,6,7 and 9; the piano sonatas, especially the later ones; the songs; the late string quartets. The world would be a better place if more people got to hear Beethoven's great music.
Without Beethoven my life is unimaginable.
I have loved Beethoven the man and the music my whole life. Love seeing other folks who admire him.
Simply the best
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He is my lifeline. Without him, my life is unimaginable like the whole world.
I do not know and understand why people feel boring when they listen to classical music.
@@anenglishmanplusamerican7107 Gustav Holst, Henry Purcell, Vivaldi z Mussorgsky?
This was fantastic. I recently got into his music, coincidentally the 250th anniversary. It was really special watching this production. Well done. Made me feel connected to so many other fans even though most of my peers find it boring music. They couldn't be more wrong!
Sarah Willis what a multifaceted person! 💙
Since being “run over” by the Eroica Symphony some 60 years ago, not a day has gone by I haven’t thought about, and been inspired by the music of Beethoven. One of the most extraordinary and influential human beings to have ever walked the planet. Music is a drug (and Beethoven’s my pusher.) Thanks to all concerned for a fascinating and informative film. Music is truly, “A higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy” (Beethoven)
I LOVE "Music is a drug (and Beethoven's my pusher)". I feel the same way!
I’m glad you liked it. Without doubt, his music is the ultimate panacea and pick-me-up for millions. The great mystery, is that no one can explain how, or why it works. We are just grateful that it does, and that we discovered it.
"...run over by the Eroica Symphony..."
Yup, that's exactly what it's like when you first get Beethoven.
Glad I’m not alone ! It makes you wonder just how many of us have been involved in this life changing experience. Ludwig has a lot to answer for !
I love eroica.
The idea that these metal songs are in some way comparable to Beethoven's 5th symphony is ludicrous. It's not the theme, it's what is done with the theme that matters. The rock bands here mentioned take a simple theme, parade themselves in tight clothes and pomposity, and do nothing musical, while Beethoven takes a simple theme and uses it as a launchpad for deep exploration of musical and spiritual space.
Delsin the members of these heavy metal groups are not good enough to empty Beethovens chamber pot ! His music is light years ahead of there's.
I don't need crappy popular music to justify my fondness for Beethoven's genius.
What I have liked most about this documentary is establishing influence of Beethoven on contemporary music
We are glad you liked it! 😊
Once someone asked Beethoven whom he admired as a great composer and he said: I consider Handel to be the greatest composer to have lived. What a modesty of the great composer
a world without him maybe nothing would be the same and I never want to live in such a world without Beethoven as I always wish to meet him after life, thats all...
Thank you! No matter what colour we are - we feel the same internal vibrations!
I don’t think the music of today would be possible without Beethoven. One can even talk about music before and after Beethoven.
Thank you Sarah Willis...great documentary...
The Fifth Symphony is not "one of the most famous music pieces" in music history.
Beethoven was, still is, forever will, be one of the few unchallenged and invictus genius Mankind has gave raise to.
The Fifth is not only a "piece of music"... The Fifth Symphony graces each listener with the most powerful description of the inevitability of the Universe, like a road that builds itself while it progresses forward, the feeling of which is what the word "AWE" was invented for...
Thank you for this service, it is highly appreciated.
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Very beautifully said, Antonio.
What a documentary!!! Viele danke!!!
This is the MOST beautiful documentary I've ever seen. Perfectly done and match, every part is perfect like a... Beethoven score. Greetings from Costa Rica 🇨🇷
Thanks DW and Sarah Willis for this entertaining documentary. Sarah rightly said towards the end: "...his innovations and ideas are everywhere".
Watching this for school but I have to say, I really enjoyed this!
Thanks for this great work, Sarah (and all others who helped to put this great doc together) - you're a wonderful ambassador for music!
Bach, Mozart, Beethoven..the miracles of humanity for music
Absolutely agree 💜💜💜
And all German/Germanic :-( :-)
@@michaeltroke7239 it’s true
And Verdi I would say
@@perotolic2217 and Schumann and Schubert 💜
This was a very well produced documentary. Sarah Willis is a true gem.
May Beethoven live forever!!!!! What a wonderful documentary (Thank you Sarah and everyone)! Love John Williams. THANK YOU SO MUCH FROM BRAZIL!
About the last scene - Beethoven is present in everything. Even those who have never heard before feels unconsciously his presence in current music. Therefore, it becomes really unimaginable.
Beautiful doc. Thanks DW.
Excellent presentation.Thanks to DW and sarah willis for this video.Beethoven is universal. He may be born in Germany but he crossed all the boarders with his unbelievable talent of music.He touched very nice Indian Raga a few measures in Symphony no 2 third movement.I bought Air tickets to Bonn this year in the month of May to go to his house and some parts of Austria. Unfortunnately this CORONA Virus spoiled the whole world.Anyway we have to move on and on.Regards from India.
What Corona virus its NOT the plague
He was born Bon Germany 🇩🇪
I was not expecting such a great outlook on Beethoven, I knew there was more to the music & a connection but this has open my eyes to the true connection of music, the greatest language in the world. I have a tiny Beethoven bust, he's the greatest rock star ever.
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Rudolf Schenker, casually sitting next to one of the most sought-after and expensive instruments in history, the Yamaha CS-80 😳
Very interesting documentary about the importance of Beethoven. As a great Beethoven fan I loved to watch it.
Absolutely brilliant doco, great presenter. Thanks for posting.
Growing of age in the 1950’s/1960’s one of the most popular newspaper comic cartoons was Charles Schultz’s “Peanuts “. The character Schroeder was a pianist obsessed with Beethoven. A few decades later I understand why😁
Oh yezzzzzz, fans, learning from Beethoven how to pull out the genius nature is never enough, he is a never ending inspiration fans
Dumb question but any excuse to listen to Beethoven is a good one. Thanks!
I saw it yesterday on DW-TV but am sooo happy to found it today on youtube. Really, many, many thanks to DW for upload it so fast for us!
Hi and best wishes from Normandie, France. I watched the doc video with great interest. I also can't imagine my life without Beethoven and other great composers . But I want to add Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninov to your list. OUR LIFE WOULD BE UNBEARABLE WITHOUT MUSIC.
Absolutely gorgeous. Magnificent. Thanks for this. Regards, from Chile.
Nice documentary DW/Sarah. Hopefully will bring more people from different musical cultures into the world of Beethoven
Very interesting documentary. I agree with you: a world without Beethoven, impossible! On the contrary, I don't agree with Marsalis: even if many people don't know B., they have surely heard his music, but they don't simply recognized it
Now that is a world that I would not want to live in! Bethoven is the most wonderful human being!
A great documentary with right concept analyzing different aspects of Beetoven's music and explains them with the well chosen examples. - Greetings, Heinz
Thank you for spending time on Beethoveen's First Symphony. Not usually profiled. Bravo!
Thank you for this magnificent documentary.
My fav composer and incomparable even by other standards. I feel like people know him but don't really appreciate him.
Brilliantly thought out documentary, inspiring in all aspects! (Now I will think of Beethoven when I bump into a motorcyclist!) Kudos!!!
Not without vices, but great work and a unique look at the greatest of them all. Thanks
Beethoven was the very first composer I had ever known when I was five. Since then he has been with me for almost seven decades
This documentary is wonderful. Thank you!
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Beethoven not only changed music he resurrected IT from mere abstraction to emotionally❤️🔥passionate compositions breaking up the ground of consciousness from abstract rules to the Super🎺, 🦸Uber, Sound🎸of🎹Rockin💎Jewels!🥁🎻
Sarah, I love this video, Thank You💙💙💙
Aunque lo entiendo en su mayoría, pero me encantaría compartirlo con las personas que no entienden el idioma inglés. Muchas gracias. Bravo!!!
I went to a talk by Jonathan Biss at the Wigmore Hall and one thing has always stayed with me. He said that of course Beethoven was not influenced by anything anybody else was composing because he could not hear anything. So all his inspiration came from within him and only him !! What a musical mind !!!
But, but, Beethoven didn't go deaf until he was in his 40s (around 1814). I'm sure he was influenced by plenty before then. Definitely by Mozart, Bach, and Haydn, for three.
@@michellsmorgcycle4161 you are right
@@michellsmorgcycle4161 and many others as well.
wonderful documentary!
Simply fantastic!!!
extraordinary content and so contextually accurate
Bravo Sarah!!!
Great program but I have to stop right here and say that my mind is completely blown that Beethoven was instrumental in popularizing the metronome! That is just fascinating - I certainly can't imagine practice without one - even if it is usually my phone these days. I think we need to see a whole show about Beethoven and his co-author in that article - Anton Salieri!
Awesome doccie, thanks
Wonderful documentary, congratulations and thanks a lot!
Thanks for your comment, we're glad you enjoyed our documentary 😊
BRAVO, Sarah!!
Beautiful !
Wonderful series --- glad I discovered this.
And we are glad you liked it!
This is the type of content, that I throw any TV set out of the window for- Thanks great lecture.
We're glad you liked it! 😊
Been waiting for this!
Seems John Williams really enjoing that talking :D An amazing Documentary with Sarah!!! Well done :D
this is a great documentary...
this was fantastique!
1:01:00 not even using a shoulder rest. How the heck does she even plays so good like that? 🤨🤔
Super great documentary. Thank you so much for sharing this with us all. 😌🙌🏻✌🏻👍🏻🤗💜
With Mutter, it's the violin that gets tired and needs a rest. :)
Excelente Documental!!!
Thank you! 😊
Great doc:)
great docu
Why all this preoccupation with Beethoven’s symphonies? His 32 piano sonatas are his grand masterpieces.
For me as well, Justice.
Without Beethoven, artists wouldn't compose simple melodies. Got it.
Wonderful. Thanks DW.
With pleasure! We're glad you liked it! 😊
Very impressed with this distinctive work , i really enjoyed and also learned a lot about the great BEETHOVEN .
When I was a little boy,
Way back home in Bonn
My mama told me, I was great.
Then when I was a teenager,
I knew that I had got something going,
All my friends told me I was great.
And now I'm a man,
A woman took me by the hand,
And you know what she told me...i was great.
As a fan of Beethoven, to say that there would not be rock music without Beethoven us frankly ridiculous. A riff is different from the way Beethoven uses his motives. He developed his music using continuous development of motives. Beethoven hugely influenced western music, but Western Africa had more of an influence on rock. Don’t try to pretend that Europeans invented the riff. It’s been present in west African music for hundreds of years. This documentary is a missed opportunity to show Beethoven’s huge impact on western culture, which cannot be denied.
TOTALLY agree, and I'm a Beethoven fanatic haha
Agree. The documentary is not as good as I expect.
I don’t think that is what it was stated. The documentary is filled with examples of how he influenced western culture in different ways.
The supposed influence on rock music is an attempt to drag Beethoven into popular culture. Beethoven Bach Mozart and Handel are the very soul of Western culture perhaps world culture there music will prevail when all else is but a dim memory.
Beethoven scaled the heights and in so doing set a benchmark opus 132 after that all was downhill..Here is an apt comment referring to the Borodin String Quartet's recording :
Eduardo Guerra Ávila
2 years ago
This string quartet touches other dimensions, a place beyond any other Human work can achieve.
The deepness of the spiritual content of this work (specially on the ultra serene adagio) rises to levels that no other art is even close to.
Even a non-believer like me feels the presence of a divinity here and makes me feel I have entered a sacred place.
Beethoven accomplished in this world a mission that we are not yet come close to discover at all his greatness.
legend. respect.
LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN !!!!!!!THE REBEL MAGNIFICENTE IN HISTORY MUSIC!!!!!!!!💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
Thanks
The first rock star Beethoven said I am good, cocky and Charismatic🤘
Wunderbar
Excelente documental! Sería posible conseguirlo con los subtítulos en español? Por favor?
An timely Video given the recent moves to represent and cancel Beethoven totally as a repressive white icon of Western Culture, on the one hand , and the ludicrous claims to appropriate Beethoven as a Black musician whose true racial identity was hidden by racists Western Historians.
Which ever way you look at it, Beethoven was and remains a civilizing figure and Saint of Western and world Culture regardless of his "race". His work is an example of the very best that humanity can achieve. God bless his life and my parents for having exposed me to the wonders of his works...I would have despaired many times throughout my life without his Music!!!!
USA woke mob comes up with this nonsense
Beethoven is worldwide
Cool dass ihr die Scorpiens dazu geholt habt
Hannover 🎉
Magic!
CLASSICAL MUSIC 🎶🎵👌
FANTASTIC DOCUMENTARY. VAN DYKE PARKS THE CHERRY ON TOP!
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Actually, the repetitive motif referred to in this video can be heard in its rawest form throughout the first movement of Mozart's 25th Piano Concerto. Beethoven probably took inspiration from there.
He didn't composed music for the masses he wanted to put a voice to his darken soul, yes he was dark. I believe that he was the original rock star and creator.
Beethoven's late quartets are my inspirations and I am a creator of EDM/electronic music.
..great..