I think he exhausted himself in the first round thinking he was gonna get a knockout, then couldn't believe how tough Nate was and got worried the rest of the fight about trying to pace himself so he didn't gas out because he realised he couldn't stop Nate walking forward like a zombie.
@@lidaaletap2646if it were 6 rounds he wouldn’t need to worry about the extra 4 rounds at the end, and would be able to go at a higher intensity for the 6 rounds
Styles make fights, Nate not being a traditional boxer made Jake look a bit worse. He still had a decent performance, nice improvement on the left hooks and the fact that he had career high punch output while going 10 rounds for the first time is impressive.
woodley or askren werent traditional boxers either jake paul def doesnt train as hard anymore as he did before. it was a horrible performance from jake
@@backbone93 Tyron Woodley 2 fight was his worst performance yet tbh, absolutely snoozefest. The KO came Outta nowhere and became the saving grace or it would have been a career ending decision win for Jake.
@@harryh-z4qgeordie made out Diaz was a joke in his last video he should just eat humble pie and admit Diaz was better than he thought and Jake can’t actually compete against a boxer
Agreed. But that’s also bc in boxing years he’s still extremely new. So much more to learn. We’ll see if he has the athletic ability and IQ to compete against truly skilled fighters if those fights ever happen.
Yh I think he's the biggest example of how powerful hype can be, especially to those who see his resume at face value i.e he's fought against several UFC fighters, but they don't go further and realise none of them are really strikers in the first place.
The biggest difference I noticed from this fight and tommys was his energy and gas..especially going 10 rounds, he still looked pretty fresh at the end, considering.
This was Jake's 1st fight since he lost his 0? Losing can make a difference in hunger/mentality to train and get better. He may have also wanted to stand in the pocket and bang against someone like Nate because it would 'prove he's a BMF' - Looking at Jake's previous opponents I don't think many will have come at him like Nate did. Hard to look good! He'll have learned a lot.
You'd imagine that Jake would've wanted to train his ass off and really show that he could beat Tommy in a rematch. Losses should help build fighters, not break them. It's still not an excuse as to why Jake performed against Nate Diaz exactly like how he did against Anderson Silva.
Nate is bmf in mma where he uses his main skill jujitsu to really finish ppl this was his first boxing match of any kind and he much smaller than Jake yet walked him down so no this doesn't make Jake bmf or antthh close at all Nate destroys him in mma one or two rounds before he is submitted guaranteed
I've seen so many people saying "jake got worse." I definitely didn't take that away from last fight. He was punching a fridge with wheels on a downward slope, no matter how hard you hit it, it doesn't take any damage & it still keeps coming. I feel like Jake improved his cardio, I've noticed he's punching through his opponents, meaning he's not just making contact but pushing their head back and digging in body shots.
I thought he looked good as far as footwork and wasn’t so flat footed. Left hook defiantly improved, and output for a 10 round fight was real good too. I thought him fighting Nate would have him not look as good as we thought since Nate is unorthodox
Don't know why people keep saying Jake's performance was bad. In my opinion his footwork was way better because he circled the ring when pressured rather than just walking straight back into the ropes like he did with Silva and Tommy. Jake also threw way more straight punches and combinations like the uppercut left hook and a lot of good body shots. In my opinion Jake improved as a boxer. Is he world championship level, no, but can he beat guys like ksi and other influencers, yes. The only tough test right now for Jake is Tommy. I think Jake proved he can deal with pressure and has good stamina so that makes the ksi fight much easier. We've also seen that Jake has a really good chin because he's been hit with big shots and not once been dropped to the canvas.
How can his footwork be better when Nate wasn't even cutting off the ring Nate was literally walking at him and still catching him and getting him against the ropes can you imagine a proper boxer who actually cuts of the ring!
Maybe it’s just me but I think he looks better. People are just expecting knockouts imo. Ofc there’s still a lotta gaps but he’s a lot better off the back foot, more composed, more stamina, better timing. The problem with jake is that he sometimes fights to the level of his opponent and stop boxing for a bit and over throws and fights his opponents fight. He needs to do better at fighting his fight
Completely agree with you, thought Jake’s footwork and balance was a lot better as well - made him far better suited to throw the combinations you saw in the first round. Diaz is quite good at making opponents look bad because of his awkwardness and durability as well, plenty of positives to look at for Jake but there’s always room for improvement.
Besides his output, I didn't really see anything that made me believe he'd had improved leaps and bounds in the last 6 months. Not a lot better but I do believe he's beginning to stagnate his progress a little
On point as always. Personally I think Jake looked the best against Gib, his left hook and straight right were so sharp. He just seems sluggish at the moment, and I think he gassed after going all out in Round 1 against Nate.
I disagree I think Jake Paul’s best fight was Nate Robinson he stepped in with the jab and had power and uppercut right hook roll and didn’t look tierd but when he fought Ben askren he looked more skinny and worse boxing is wierd becuase some people are good and start off super strong and some decrease but then get way better at boxing
Jake and JJ are actually very similar in terms of their level of attributes but with different styles and Jake shows better technique and timing more than JJ who is more unorthodox and shows/ uses his power more. That fight would definitely be a close one now that we see Tommy and Nate both having success from putting pressure on Jake and "roughing him up" because JJ can do that. Even though I want JJ to win and Nate's success gives me hope at the minute, Jake is still looking technically better as a boxer so that will be close and Tommy will be a very difficult test for JJ like he was for Jake and should be the betting favourite no doubt, maybe JJ will surprise everyone again like always but that shouldn't be expected like its a guarantee its far from that. Good vid Geordie 👏👍
i defo think he looks better more technically, didn’t see him throw his overhand right cricket bowl punch much i think mate being an awkward pressure fighter who can take shots made it hard work for jake
As an unbiased fan of both jake and jj, i think jake seems to have plateaued somewhat however he powered through this fight and i think it will teach him a lot going on. A lot of these new fighters struggle when they get flustered and struggle to maintain the jab IMO
and also as a sidenote TG i'm so happy to see you uploading and doing well, as someone who has experienced a lot of grief you have really helped me push through those dark times and i wish only the best 4U
@@Jamesolaa As an unbiased admirer of JJ and a person who does Not like Jake Paul what so ever ( I don't hate Jake Paul but I don't like him I never did and never will ) to me even though he lost Jake looked better when he was going against Tommy Fury. He looked more technical. And he slipping good shots. But here he looked sloppy. I mean, certain times he looked good but the majority he looked sloppy. And this is what happens when you fight a pro boxer and then go right back to another Older MMA Fighter. Now don't get me wrong, yes Nate Diaz is a Boxer and is a Dog. But he is older and weather you believe me or not Jake keeps fighting opponents who are Older MMA Fighters or Older Pro Boxers! No one in his level or slightly above his level. Jake fought an older retired NBA Player Nate Robinson who was NOT a boxer and NEVER DID ANY BOXING IN HIS LIFE!!! then gets all excited then saying he can beat Canelo Alverez in 2 years.🤨 Like WHAAAAT?!?!?!?!?! NO the heck you can't! This is a reason why I don't like Jake Paul. And if you like that I'm a Hater of Jake Paul... Then that's on you because a hater wouldn't explain his reasonings for hating. I don't like Jake Paul as a person or what he is does or what he is doing. Period.
People need to cut the kid some slack. He's coming off his first loss it definitely hinders his fight mentality. No one would have thought he would have beaten all these MMA fighters 2 years ago or even compete with someone in Viddal Riley's sights.
I mean if anyone actually bought into his spiel about being world champ then I have some snake oil to sell them 😅. You can't speedrun boxing, and I hope these influencer boxers start to realise that
Two things... I think this fight called for such a drastically different style that that's why Jake looks completely different. Tommy = finesse technical point scoring boxing and Nate = cardio heavy awkward slugfest. Second, I think Jake is WAY ahead of where he should be. His KO's are actually causing us to expect more from him than is probably reasonable. One amateur fight and going ten rounds for his eighth fight against a seasoned pro fighter? That's insane for that career milestone. Literally unheard of for any other boxer. While he expects a lot of himself, we shouldn't be surprised if he's behind in any area.
Expectation will be high for a fighter who has the Money to fund the most elite training camps possible.. He has the best Boxings Coaches on the Scene along with the best nutrients Coach along with the best Strength and Conditioning mentor, he even has a breathing coach!! Jake Paul and KSI are lucky enough to be able to spend Millions and Millions on the Worlds best to learn the art of Boxing, Whereas other Fighters just turning Pro don’t have that option.. So yes he should be doing big things..
I slightly disagree I think his performance was below average but his fitness has improved massively he was really gassed in his last fight which only went 8 rounds and doing 10 rounds now his fitness looks much better.
I think it's easier to look like a boxer when you're fighting a boxer, like Tommy. When fighting someone like nate it's very hard to look clean and polished when he is trying to turn it into a scrap all the time
Jake looks good when he stays on the outside against guys who stand in front of him and are either a) slower than him, or b) have a reach disadvantage. He's gotten a little better at countering when being pressured, but he has no inside game whatsoever. About what you might expect from someone who is a high level amateur athlete who has been training hard at boxing for several years: he's got some good tools, but he also has some big holes in his game that a world class boxer would exploit.
I think a lot of people forget that Nate can make anyone look bad. The fight against Leon was fairly competitive and he even cracked him right at the end, and look what Leon has gone on to do after that, he put a masterclass on in the 2nd Usman fight, so to say Jake didn't look great against Nate, of course he didn't, that's what Nate does. Nate is essentially the most successful journeyman in MMA, and he transferred all of his skills to boxing. And those skills are to smother his opponents offense, get them running backwards and make them work twice as hard for half the pay off. And Jake still won convincingly, so even though it wasn't the technically sound display of boxing most people were looking for, but it was never going to be that. What that was, was a test of will and discipline to not get into a toe to toe scrap, and while there were small windows where Jake was reeled in, for the most part he avoided it and that is a success in itself. So for me he showed a level of adaptability in dealing with an extremely awkward opponent, and looked ok doing so. Now, does that mean he's going to beat Canelo? The answer is still no. But I was slightly more impressed with this fight than I think people are giving Jake credit for.
Jake explained why he got so close to nate. He said its because nate had no power close together. But nate was getting points so he changed his game plan after the 5th round
Its simple. He was fighting an unorthadox guy over a someone polished and textbook boxer. Nate is difficult to deal with in making things ugly and his style of fight and Paul got lead into that.
Tbh I think he looked a little more impressive, technically, against nate. I think in the fury fight it was a slightly slower paced fight in comparison, it was two young guys very aware that their gas tanks aren't very tested. Whereas Diaz was just so hitable but so durable and just kept walking forward and i think with Jake he made a good decision not to punch himslef out early and kinda cruised to a decision. Against tommy I thought he was very messy and was just looking for big shots constantly
I’m not a boxing expert. But it seemed to me Paul was hunting for that “Unconscious Nate” highlight reel knockout. By the time he realized that wasn’t happening, he blew a big chunk of his load already.
There are people in boxing who subconsciously adjust to the level needed to win. Meaning if you need 50 percent you use 55. I had a problem like this as a fighter. Always won but my coaches hated it I'm just guessing though.
He 100% looks better and didn’t throw just 1 punch/jab the whole time. He threw combos. Cardio was great. Looked like a totally different fighter after getting a new team
Made some great points, from a guy that’s been training for a while, styles do have a big impact on this, some guys you can look good and some guys you can’t, it’s just the game, he can have a bad performance and still be improving, hope to see him keep getting better
Nate came forward like a beast and smothered the punches. I think jake did well not throwing any wild punches. I think jake was basically duped into fighting nates fight. Learning is on a curve he isn't going to just get way better every time. He needs to just iron out his game plan.
No he got winded trying to take Nate Diaz out. Similar to what happened to Anthony Joshua when he tried to take out Klitschko and Andy Ruiz. I know, two different caliber of competition, but the concept remains that if you try to force a KO to happen amd it doesn't, then you'll get winded.
U need to understand the styles yes both put on volume but nate does It In such a awkward way Its tougher to see those punches and react to them yeah they dont have much behind them but nates goal was to land a high number of shots. Its way tougher to get out of the way of those kind of punches than normal punches
I actually think that this is a step in the RIGHT direction for him even though he didn't look as good. In the Tommy Fury fight, we didn't see much solid footwork from Jake, if at all. Here, even though his footwork isn't good, he is beginning to develop them. Sometimes, you need to expose your weaknesses in order to improve upon them. You need to get into a heated battle with poor footwork in order to learn from your mistakes and improve upon them. Hope I'm making sense.
I think it was more Nate’s style that caused this performance, IMO jakes best performance was against silva. Jakes power is still there but it didn’t feel like he was trying to knock Nate out
I think that jake looked great against nate because he looked more composed and he didn’t get sloppy towards the end like he has done in the past and actually looked good as the rounds went on
Lol the fact people think after 6 years this KSI vs Jake fight is still gonna happen...KSI has already said if he beats Tommy he's not fighting Jake...neither of them will accept the other is above them or the "ace side" which is why this will never happen, if KSI beats Tommy he'll retire or make stupid demands that Jake wont do or if KSI loses to Tommy Jake will defo not see him as the ace side and then its a stale mate. 6 years of fighting 40 year olds and punchbags and we're still no closer to this fight happening, about time people got over it and stopped supporting them fighting 40 year olds and punchbags and demanded this KSI vs Jake fight and hated on their opponents and maybe something would change but while your all running out paying to watch them fight skinny twigs and 40 year old men why would they ever do the main fights? If im a RUclipsr and i have fans who will keep paying and supporting me fighting people i know i can beat up why would i stop??? all they're doing is mentioning the fight to hype their events to sell tickets go back and watch.....plain as day! they only tweet at each other or mention this fight in interviews when they've got events coming up otherwise they're quiet, all being taken for clowns.
I think this is well argued, but harsh. You can't be in complete control of your trajectory, so your skills are on show as favourably as possible each fight. He fought a tough opponent, it was messy and scrappy at times, but by far he was the tidier, more effective boxer. I don't support Jake, to be clear, was rooting for Nate, but props to the lad. He isn't a "boxer" though, if I want to prove myself at 100m I must race against 100m athletes, not triathletes who do sprints.
i dont think you are giving Jake enough credit for how much he improved when close range he use to grab and hold he throws a better uppercut and won a lot exchanges on the inside
People aren’t seeing Jake Paul has been on the decline since he left Mosley the first time, him vs Anesongib was a competitive fight because we knew the factors both fighters had beforehand, ever since every fight has been labelled as competitive due to accomplishments in other sports. Jake went from learning to box with Shane to learning how to set up a game plan to beat mma fighters with bj morris, just look at the way he controls range in the gib fight compared to any other of his fights at all.
I think Jake's biggest thing to focus on from here is *his fight IQ adaptability to read what's best to do in the moment as it unfolds. *Balance, movement, distance management to keep at range from clinches *throw out a cluster of not full power distraction shot's to create openings for his more power damaging shot's.
Jake isn't bad but he just has a way to go still, I think he is willing to go there but I also think he lost a bit of credibility going back to fighting mma fighters, also getting taken the full 10 by nate hasn't helped
had the same thoughts but i think he just didnt have to stay on his A game because of nates awkwardness, would rather see him fight a boxer to really see if hes improved, we learned nothing about his boxing but i guess his cardio holds up
You say Nate Diaz is still the same Nate Diaz but then say Paul should have ran through him. Is anyone suprised the man who used to be brought in by Andre Ward for his camp went the distance with Paul even though he’s past his prime ?
Jake has been in the Gym without a break for 3 years, after the Fury fight he was back in the Gym 2 days later he said. The best way to get past a plateau after years in the Gym is to take a month or two break. Then when you come back refreshed mentally & physically then improvements happen naturally in my experience.
I genuinely think Jake fights differently when he’s truly uncomfortable with who he’s against. Might sound obvious but I think he’s truly intimidated by Nate Diaz and I think he’s also scared of JJ deep down in his mind.
I see this is working out very well for jake He won the fight which is most important bit, but then there is so many unanswered questions to keep everyone wondering😂 So next time interest will be huge again
100% he needed to just keep smashing that jab but when fought in past those that come forward none stop they seriously frustrate you as you when you want to reset they keep coming and sets you off a bit but saying that he did have a bit of time to reset and hit some hard left jabs and also stomach area to then bring his guard down then go back upstairs. But yeh all in all I didn’t see much that says any chance of world level but hey he surprised me with some decent uppercuts
This is the one fight alot of people didn't expect Jake to knockout nate maybe a stoppage at most but definitely not knocked out Nate is a hard guy to knock out
I feel like the narrative was always gonna be something negative towards jake's boxing ability no mater what if he got him out there i think the narrative would have been that was such an easy fight, are you kidding me?
I feel Jake needs to go down to 175 or something. He can definitely make the weight considering he still dosen't look as shredded as he should at 185. Even his coaches said in the past that they aim to compete at 175 in future against other pro boxers.
I agree if I'm honest with you, Jake needs to fight more boxers. So why not take on someone higher up than Tommy ?? what about Craig Richards ''Spider''
Regardless, i enjoyed the fight. He couldnt finish Nate. But Jakeout boxed him. Nate ate Jakes biggest shots, he got wobbled of course, but he was always in the fight.
I stand corrected as i did a quick search... however, Mike Tyson had 15 fights in 1985 more than 1 a month. Jake needs to step up the and try aim for 6 fights a year
The fact Nate Diaz isn’t even a real 170 pound fighter but Jake struggled to beat him in a sport he’s never competed at 185 pounds should tell he’ll never get anywhere near a high level
Nate is one of those guys with that weird almost novice style clunky style.... And as any fighter knows it's hard to look good against awkward long fighters... And that's how Jake looked. For me anyway.
Geordie, during round 4, it’s clear that is jake off round for him to take a rest and coming back stronger in the next round. It just shows a good ring iq
I think I must really not know boxing, cause to me all I saw was Nate punch Jakes head for the last 5-6 rounds, I guess Jakes knockdown counts for more?
2:34 98-91 x2 and 97-92 is outclassing nate diaz wdym he didnt outclass him like jorge did? you actin like jorge wasnt gettin slapped and considering jorge looked gassed in the later rounds vs usman (granted 1 week) and colby im sure nate wouldve had even more success if it wasnt for the cut
I think he exhausted himself in the first round thinking he was gonna get a knockout, then couldn't believe how tough Nate was and got worried the rest of the fight about trying to pace himself so he didn't gas out because he realised he couldn't stop Nate walking forward like a zombie.
plus it’s 10 rounds 💀 if it was 6 he probably takes Nate out
@@TrophySubBro wtf are you on about, he had 10 rounds to knock him out, and he couldn't 🤣
@@lidaaletap2646if it were 6 rounds he wouldn’t need to worry about the extra 4 rounds at the end, and would be able to go at a higher intensity for the 6 rounds
@@lidaaletap2646not saying I personally think that’s what would’ve happened but I think that’s what the previous commenters logic was
@@lidaaletap2646he meant if it was 6 rounds he could of went for it more
Styles make fights, Nate not being a traditional boxer made Jake look a bit worse. He still had a decent performance, nice improvement on the left hooks and the fact that he had career high punch output while going 10 rounds for the first time is impressive.
woodley or askren werent traditional boxers either
jake paul def doesnt train as hard anymore as he did before.
it was a horrible performance from jake
@@backbone93 Tyron Woodley 2 fight was his worst performance yet tbh, absolutely snoozefest. The KO came Outta nowhere and became the saving grace or it would have been a career ending decision win for Jake.
@@backbone93wasn’t horrible at all his cardio was actually very impressive for how fast the fight went and started at
Hes going full rounds which is good I agree
Nate also isn't a power puncher, he's just a volume puncher.
Thought exactly the same. This fight actually made me think he's not sharp enough to properly compete with Fury.
Why not just give Diaz credit
@NonSlimy had 3 fights in 2 years
@seanquinn8790 kind of a separate point isn't it. Fair play to Diaz but he's not a boxer
@NonSlimy yeah it's a great achievement, I'm just saying I think he struggles against Fury if theres a rematch
@@harryh-z4qgeordie made out Diaz was a joke in his last video he should just eat humble pie and admit Diaz was better than he thought and Jake can’t actually compete against a boxer
Class vid as always Geordie, but I think Jake isn’t plateauing, he’s just being exposed for not being as good as he wanted people to believe.
Agreed. But that’s also bc in boxing years he’s still extremely new. So much more to learn. We’ll see if he has the athletic ability and IQ to compete against truly skilled fighters if those fights ever happen.
facts
@@fitflik4784 we have already seen that he cant
I don't see how they're different or how you've gathered the one rather than the other.
Yh I think he's the biggest example of how powerful hype can be, especially to those who see his resume at face value i.e he's fought against several UFC fighters, but they don't go further and realise none of them are really strikers in the first place.
The biggest difference I noticed from this fight and tommys was his energy and gas..especially going 10 rounds, he still looked pretty fresh at the end, considering.
His gas tank improved massively
A proper boxer putting the pressure on Jake will demolish the fool!!!!🙄
I mean you can have a good gas tank by the end of the fight for the amount of breaks nate took
A bit wierd how he was already breathing heavily inside the 2nd round 😂😂😂😂
The magic of EPO 😊
This was Jake's 1st fight since he lost his 0? Losing can make a difference in hunger/mentality to train and get better. He may have also wanted to stand in the pocket and bang against someone like Nate because it would 'prove he's a BMF' - Looking at Jake's previous opponents I don't think many will have come at him like Nate did. Hard to look good! He'll have learned a lot.
Your most definitely right Tommy let him get distance I think he landed stronger cleaner ships of Tommy
You'd imagine that Jake would've wanted to train his ass off and really show that he could beat Tommy in a rematch. Losses should help build fighters, not break them. It's still not an excuse as to why Jake performed against Nate Diaz exactly like how he did against Anderson Silva.
Nate is bmf in mma where he uses his main skill jujitsu to really finish ppl this was his first boxing match of any kind and he much smaller than Jake yet walked him down so no this doesn't make Jake bmf or antthh close at all Nate destroys him in mma one or two rounds before he is submitted guaranteed
I've seen so many people saying "jake got worse." I definitely didn't take that away from last fight. He was punching a fridge with wheels on a downward slope, no matter how hard you hit it, it doesn't take any damage & it still keeps coming. I feel like Jake improved his cardio, I've noticed he's punching through his opponents, meaning he's not just making contact but pushing their head back and digging in body shots.
Dudes footwork improved to hes not fighting flatfooted to
@@imzedic6765yes he was fighting moving backwards now I’ve never seen that
I agree.
nate is a career 155-170 pound fighter. He stepped up two weight classes. If he bullied Jake..that speaks on it.
That analogy was absurd
I thought he looked good as far as footwork and wasn’t so flat footed. Left hook defiantly improved, and output for a 10 round fight was real good too. I thought him fighting Nate would have him not look as good as we thought since Nate is unorthodox
Don't know why people keep saying Jake's performance was bad. In my opinion his footwork was way better because he circled the ring when pressured rather than just walking straight back into the ropes like he did with Silva and Tommy. Jake also threw way more straight punches and combinations like the uppercut left hook and a lot of good body shots. In my opinion Jake improved as a boxer. Is he world championship level, no, but can he beat guys like ksi and other influencers, yes. The only tough test right now for Jake is Tommy. I think Jake proved he can deal with pressure and has good stamina so that makes the ksi fight much easier. We've also seen that Jake has a really good chin because he's been hit with big shots and not once been dropped to the canvas.
He ok for amateur but he has no future as a pro. Sorry to break it to you🤷♂️
How can his footwork be better when Nate wasn't even cutting off the ring Nate was literally walking at him and still catching him and getting him against the ropes can you imagine a proper boxer who actually cuts of the ring!
@@AiryedThat doesn’t mean his footwork hasn’t improved
Jake pauls perfeomance was good i thought.
@@saifkabiri5715definitely not you are absolutely correct the undercard fighters were better
Maybe it’s just me but I think he looks better. People are just expecting knockouts imo. Ofc there’s still a lotta gaps but he’s a lot better off the back foot, more composed, more stamina, better timing. The problem with jake is that he sometimes fights to the level of his opponent and stop boxing for a bit and over throws and fights his opponents fight. He needs to do better at fighting his fight
Completely agree with you, thought Jake’s footwork and balance was a lot better as well - made him far better suited to throw the combinations you saw in the first round. Diaz is quite good at making opponents look bad because of his awkwardness and durability as well, plenty of positives to look at for Jake but there’s always room for improvement.
This is it much improved performance since Tommy fury.actually threw similar to a pro good stamina as well normally gassed by 8th round
Yeah this jake was also not only looking to throw the overhand right. He mixed it up nicely
Improved whilst fighting another 40 year old retired mma fighter after losing to the one real boxer he’s ever faced…. Funny that
facts if you say he got worse vs when he fought tommy you’re delusional the activity was the game changer
Besides his output, I didn't really see anything that made me believe he'd had improved leaps and bounds in the last 6 months. Not a lot better but I do believe he's beginning to stagnate his progress a little
you can only progress so much, given that he started boxing only in he's 20's
It’s clear you’ve never trained or fought. No one who has fought or trained would ever expect someone to make dramatic progress in 6 months
On point as always. Personally I think Jake looked the best against Gib, his left hook and straight right were so sharp. He just seems sluggish at the moment, and I think he gassed after going all out in Round 1 against Nate.
I disagree I think Jake Paul’s best fight was Nate Robinson he stepped in with the jab and had power and uppercut right hook roll and didn’t look tierd but when he fought Ben askren he looked more skinny and worse boxing is wierd becuase some people are good and start off super strong and some decrease but then get way better at boxing
Jake and JJ are actually very similar in terms of their level of attributes but with different styles and Jake shows better technique and timing more than JJ who is more unorthodox and shows/ uses his power more. That fight would definitely be a close one now that we see Tommy and Nate both having success from putting pressure on Jake and "roughing him up" because JJ can do that. Even though I want JJ to win and Nate's success gives me hope at the minute, Jake is still looking technically better as a boxer so that will be close and Tommy will be a very difficult test for JJ like he was for Jake and should be the betting favourite no doubt, maybe JJ will surprise everyone again like always but that shouldn't be expected like its a guarantee its far from that. Good vid Geordie 👏👍
Again the low level of competition allows KSI to do that. Jake is a level or two above KSI.
KSI would never be able to take those power shots that Nate took.
@@PMrazif KSI beats Tommy Fury, what will you say then?
@@PMraz 😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️
@@michaelogbuabiaHe's absolutely right. Jake is for sure a level ahead of KSI in terms of actual boxing fundamentals.
Nate’s unorthodox style probs threw Jake off.
Jakenwas embarrassing lad
i defo think he looks better more technically, didn’t see him throw his overhand right cricket bowl punch much i think mate being an awkward pressure fighter who can take shots made it hard work for jake
I agree he just lost his edge
As an unbiased fan of both jake and jj, i think jake seems to have plateaued somewhat however he powered through this fight and i think it will teach him a lot going on. A lot of these new fighters struggle when they get flustered and struggle to maintain the jab IMO
and also as a sidenote TG i'm so happy to see you uploading and doing well, as someone who has experienced a lot of grief you have really helped me push through those dark times and i wish only the best 4U
@@Jamesolaa As an unbiased admirer of JJ and a person who does Not like Jake Paul what so ever ( I don't hate Jake Paul but I don't like him I never did and never will ) to me even though he lost Jake looked better when he was going against Tommy Fury. He looked more technical. And he slipping good shots. But here he looked sloppy. I mean, certain times he looked good but the majority he looked sloppy.
And this is what happens when you fight a pro boxer and then go right back to another Older MMA Fighter. Now don't get me wrong, yes Nate Diaz is a Boxer and is a Dog. But he is older and weather you believe me or not Jake keeps fighting opponents who are Older MMA Fighters or Older Pro Boxers! No one in his level or slightly above his level. Jake fought an older retired NBA Player Nate Robinson who was NOT a boxer and NEVER DID ANY BOXING IN HIS LIFE!!! then gets all excited then saying he can beat Canelo Alverez in 2 years.🤨 Like WHAAAAT?!?!?!?!?! NO the heck you can't!
This is a reason why I don't like Jake Paul. And if you like that I'm a Hater of Jake Paul... Then that's on you because a hater wouldn't explain his reasonings for hating. I don't like Jake Paul as a person or what he is does or what he is doing. Period.
People need to cut the kid some slack. He's coming off his first loss it definitely hinders his fight mentality. No one would have thought he would have beaten all these MMA fighters 2 years ago or even compete with someone in Viddal Riley's sights.
Nice to see TG actually be critical of Jake for once
Had to be after that performance
I mean if anyone actually bought into his spiel about being world champ then I have some snake oil to sell them 😅. You can't speedrun boxing, and I hope these influencer boxers start to realise that
Two things... I think this fight called for such a drastically different style that that's why Jake looks completely different. Tommy = finesse technical point scoring boxing and Nate = cardio heavy awkward slugfest. Second, I think Jake is WAY ahead of where he should be. His KO's are actually causing us to expect more from him than is probably reasonable. One amateur fight and going ten rounds for his eighth fight against a seasoned pro fighter? That's insane for that career milestone. Literally unheard of for any other boxer. While he expects a lot of himself, we shouldn't be surprised if he's behind in any area.
Expectation will be high for a fighter who has the Money to fund the most elite training camps possible.. He has the best Boxings Coaches on the Scene along with the best nutrients Coach along with the best Strength and Conditioning mentor, he even has a breathing coach!! Jake Paul and KSI are lucky enough to be able to spend Millions and Millions on the Worlds best to learn the art of Boxing, Whereas other Fighters just turning Pro don’t have that option.. So yes he should be doing big things..
I slightly disagree I think his performance was below average but his fitness has improved massively he was really gassed in his last fight which only went 8 rounds and doing 10 rounds now his fitness looks much better.
Plus he looked a lot better on his feet not flat footed like in his previous fights
100%. jake needs to switch on. after the nate fight, i think the hype has died down because people can see through jake's boxing ability
@@ITzzDecortyeah as he’s looking good especially with that Kronk style
@@ITzzDecortthe hype has been going away for a while now Jake losing ironically enough helped him out a bit
Fitness or "supplements"??
I think it's easier to look like a boxer when you're fighting a boxer, like Tommy. When fighting someone like nate it's very hard to look clean and polished when he is trying to turn it into a scrap all the time
Jake looks good when he stays on the outside against guys who stand in front of him and are either a) slower than him, or b) have a reach disadvantage. He's gotten a little better at countering when being pressured, but he has no inside game whatsoever. About what you might expect from someone who is a high level amateur athlete who has been training hard at boxing for several years: he's got some good tools, but he also has some big holes in his game that a world class boxer would exploit.
Not even world class Tommy isn't world class and exploited them
@@Airyed Fair point. Tommy exploited them, a world class boxer would clown him.
@@LionAndALamb a world class boxer would kill him
I think a lot of people forget that Nate can make anyone look bad. The fight against Leon was fairly competitive and he even cracked him right at the end, and look what Leon has gone on to do after that, he put a masterclass on in the 2nd Usman fight, so to say Jake didn't look great against Nate, of course he didn't, that's what Nate does. Nate is essentially the most successful journeyman in MMA, and he transferred all of his skills to boxing. And those skills are to smother his opponents offense, get them running backwards and make them work twice as hard for half the pay off. And Jake still won convincingly, so even though it wasn't the technically sound display of boxing most people were looking for, but it was never going to be that. What that was, was a test of will and discipline to not get into a toe to toe scrap, and while there were small windows where Jake was reeled in, for the most part he avoided it and that is a success in itself. So for me he showed a level of adaptability in dealing with an extremely awkward opponent, and looked ok doing so. Now, does that mean he's going to beat Canelo? The answer is still no. But I was slightly more impressed with this fight than I think people are giving Jake credit for.
Jake explained why he got so close to nate. He said its because nate had no power close together. But nate was getting points so he changed his game plan after the 5th round
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Its simple. He was fighting an unorthadox guy over a someone polished and textbook boxer. Nate is difficult to deal with in making things ugly and his style of fight and Paul got lead into that.
Tbh I think he looked a little more impressive, technically, against nate. I think in the fury fight it was a slightly slower paced fight in comparison, it was two young guys very aware that their gas tanks aren't very tested. Whereas Diaz was just so hitable but so durable and just kept walking forward and i think with Jake he made a good decision not to punch himslef out early and kinda cruised to a decision. Against tommy I thought he was very messy and was just looking for big shots constantly
I’m not a boxing expert. But it seemed to me Paul was hunting for that “Unconscious Nate” highlight reel knockout. By the time he realized that wasn’t happening, he blew a big chunk of his load already.
The thing with Jake Paul is he says he wants worlds titles but then fights mma fighters
There are people in boxing who subconsciously adjust to the level needed to win. Meaning if you need 50 percent you use 55. I had a problem like this as a fighter. Always won but my coaches hated it I'm just guessing though.
He 100% looks better and didn’t throw just 1 punch/jab the whole time. He threw combos. Cardio was great. Looked like a totally different fighter after getting a new team
Jake’s gone backwards since Woodley. A pretty decent amount too
The difference was he was more afraid of Tommy so he had to be switched on, I think he thought he’d take Nate out easy enough
Made some great points, from a guy that’s been training for a while, styles do have a big impact on this, some guys you can look good and some guys you can’t, it’s just the game, he can have a bad performance and still be improving, hope to see him keep getting better
This fights makes me realize that the gap between Jake and KSI isn't as big as everyone thought.
its still big imo
Nate came forward like a beast and smothered the punches. I think jake did well not throwing any wild punches. I think jake was basically duped into fighting nates fight. Learning is on a curve he isn't going to just get way better every time. He needs to just iron out his game plan.
True Geordie’s analysis is always so solid and comprehensive 💯
He talks out of his arse
Hey Brian why’re you paying people to write these comments
@@BlackWolf-el3gu I just wrote what I genuinely believe m8
@@vivekbindra4590 😏
He wasn't facing a boxer with Diaz.. Diaz made him fight like that
No he got winded trying to take Nate Diaz out. Similar to what happened to Anthony Joshua when he tried to take out Klitschko and Andy Ruiz. I know, two different caliber of competition, but the concept remains that if you try to force a KO to happen amd it doesn't, then you'll get winded.
He definitely didn't get worse but I don't think his at that level yet to beat Tommy Fury in a rematch
I think Nate is a walking Zombie and made it look that way, but if Jake fought Darren Till for example, he would have looked greatly improved.
U need to understand the styles yes both put on volume but nate does It In such a awkward way Its tougher to see those punches and react to them yeah they dont have much behind them but nates goal was to land a high number of shots. Its way tougher to get out of the way of those kind of punches than normal punches
I actually think that this is a step in the RIGHT direction for him even though he didn't look as good. In the Tommy Fury fight, we didn't see much solid footwork from Jake, if at all. Here, even though his footwork isn't good, he is beginning to develop them. Sometimes, you need to expose your weaknesses in order to improve upon them. You need to get into a heated battle with poor footwork in order to learn from your mistakes and improve upon them. Hope I'm making sense.
My opinion is it was a look he hadn't seen before and was just adjusting as best as he could.
I think it was more Nate’s style that caused this performance, IMO jakes best performance was against silva. Jakes power is still there but it didn’t feel like he was trying to knock Nate out
Silva was 47 lol
Bit like rocky,. Nate burnt him out early jake thought he could stop him early
I think that jake looked great against nate because he looked more composed and he didn’t get sloppy towards the end like he has done in the past and actually looked good as the rounds went on
Lol the fact people think after 6 years this KSI vs Jake fight is still gonna happen...KSI has already said if he beats Tommy he's not fighting Jake...neither of them will accept the other is above them or the "ace side" which is why this will never happen, if KSI beats Tommy he'll retire or make stupid demands that Jake wont do or if KSI loses to Tommy Jake will defo not see him as the ace side and then its a stale mate.
6 years of fighting 40 year olds and punchbags and we're still no closer to this fight happening, about time people got over it and stopped supporting them fighting 40 year olds and punchbags and demanded this KSI vs Jake fight and hated on their opponents and maybe something would change but while your all running out paying to watch them fight skinny twigs and 40 year old men why would they ever do the main fights?
If im a RUclipsr and i have fans who will keep paying and supporting me fighting people i know i can beat up why would i stop??? all they're doing is mentioning the fight to hype their events to sell tickets go back and watch.....plain as day! they only tweet at each other or mention this fight in interviews when they've got events coming up otherwise they're quiet, all being taken for clowns.
“Arm punches” my god he really knows his boxing vocabulary
Do you think a little bit of his problem is the coaching change because Jake said leading up to the fight that they had to rework his entire style
he got better with footwork to get him off the ropes. Better combos as well he got better overall
Only way to get better in boxing is to fight consistently better opposition, which Jake simply isn’t.
I think this is well argued, but harsh. You can't be in complete control of your trajectory, so your skills are on show as favourably as possible each fight. He fought a tough opponent, it was messy and scrappy at times, but by far he was the tidier, more effective boxer.
I don't support Jake, to be clear, was rooting for Nate, but props to the lad.
He isn't a "boxer" though, if I want to prove myself at 100m I must race against 100m athletes, not triathletes who do sprints.
Gotta love James toney the only boxer who stepped foot in the cage like nate said in a real fight these boxers fury included get smoked 😮
i dont think you are giving Jake enough credit for how much he improved when close range he use to grab and hold he throws a better uppercut and won a lot exchanges on the inside
People aren’t seeing Jake Paul has been on the decline since he left Mosley the first time, him vs Anesongib was a competitive fight because we knew the factors both fighters had beforehand, ever since every fight has been labelled as competitive due to accomplishments in other sports. Jake went from learning to box with Shane to learning how to set up a game plan to beat mma fighters with bj morris, just look at the way he controls range in the gib fight compared to any other of his fights at all.
actual facts
Jake was back with Shane for this Diaz fight tho lol
the camp change could set back the progress for a bit but be better in the long run
«That was a shot behind the head… Jeeezez christ» hahah
Geordie: Jake is getting worse
Wade: Jake has now evolved
I think Jake's biggest thing to focus on from here is *his fight IQ adaptability to read what's best to do in the moment as it unfolds. *Balance, movement, distance management to keep at range from clinches *throw out a cluster of not full power distraction shot's to create openings for his more power damaging shot's.
I think if Jake wants to beat Tommy fury he has to continue to grow with his team a fight vs Jorge Masvidal next
Jake was trying to knock out Nate, he was trying to survive Tommy
I thought he got better. His footwork and combinations was better and I wanted Nate to win. Also his cardio had definitely improved
He looked good, but nate looked bad
He wasn’t expected to look good😂
"I backed him against Ben Askren, I even bet on him"
Even Ben Askren bet on Jake Paul to win, it wasn't a hard call.
Jake isn't bad but he just has a way to go still, I think he is willing to go there but I also think he lost a bit of credibility going back to fighting mma fighters, also getting taken the full 10 by nate hasn't helped
had the same thoughts but i think he just didnt have to stay on his A game because of nates awkwardness, would rather see him fight a boxer to really see if hes improved, we learned nothing about his boxing but i guess his cardio holds up
Well you said he's gonna sleep Nate, so yeah he is lol
I think Nate is a walking Zombie and made it look that way, but if Jake fought Darren Till for example, he would have looked greatly improved.
You say Nate Diaz is still the same Nate Diaz but then say Paul should have ran through him. Is anyone suprised the man who used to be brought in by Andre Ward for his camp went the distance with Paul even though he’s past his prime ?
NATES BEEN BOXING WITH ANDRE WARD FOR OVER A DECADE, YOU ABSOLUTE MUTANT
Main difference is Nate constantly comes forward, Tommy was fighting on the outside. Also Jake spent himself in the first round trying to get a finish
I think Nate is a walking Zombie and made it look that way, but if Jake fought Darren Till for example, he would have looked greatly improved.
Jake has been in the Gym without a break for 3 years, after the Fury fight he was back in the Gym 2 days later he said. The best way to get past a plateau after years in the Gym is to take a month or two break. Then when you come back refreshed mentally & physically then improvements happen naturally in my experience.
I genuinely think Jake fights differently when he’s truly uncomfortable with who he’s against. Might sound obvious but I think he’s truly intimidated by Nate Diaz and I think he’s also scared of JJ deep down in his mind.
I see this is working out very well for jake
He won the fight which is most important bit, but then there is so many unanswered questions to keep everyone wondering😂
So next time interest will be huge again
100% he needed to just keep smashing that jab but when fought in past those that come forward none stop they seriously frustrate you as you when you want to reset they keep coming and sets you off a bit but saying that he did have a bit of time to reset and hit some hard left jabs and also stomach area to then bring his guard down then go back upstairs. But yeh all in all I didn’t see much that says any chance of world level but hey he surprised me with some decent uppercuts
This is the one fight alot of people didn't expect Jake to knockout nate maybe a stoppage at most but definitely not knocked out Nate is a hard guy to knock out
And I might be wrong, but ain’t this Jakes first opponent that was orthodox
12:10 “LET HIM DIE! not literally but…ya know” 🤣🤣🤣
Foot work and cardio was way better and no jake had better technique in this fight
I feel like the narrative was always gonna be something negative towards jake's boxing ability no mater what
if he got him out there
i think the narrative would have been that was such an easy fight, are you kidding me?
I heard Jake call out Canelo. Hopefully he’s not serious cause if he is he clearly doesn’t have a grip on reality.
Dude that would be a homicide.
@@jmiahrealone Absolutely!
Is it me or does Jake seem to be getting worse each fight? He seems slow and sluggish and many times allowing Diaz to land multiple punches on him
I feel Jake needs to go down to 175 or something. He can definitely make the weight considering he still dosen't look as shredded as he should at 185. Even his coaches said in the past that they aim to compete at 175 in future against other pro boxers.
Bj flores needs to be replaced
@@eavesdropper0 BJ wasn't even in this camp, Shane Mosley took over again.
@@Vengeance622he doesent wanna do that cause hell lose his weight advantage against these guys he's bigger than.
I agree if I'm honest with you, Jake needs to fight more boxers. So why not take on someone higher up than Tommy ?? what about Craig Richards ''Spider''
Tbh, just don't think this lot should be selling as much as they do... 95% of these matches have looked absolutely dreadful
I fucking hope Jake beats Fury in a rematch
Regardless, i enjoyed the fight. He couldnt finish Nate. But Jakeout boxed him. Nate ate Jakes biggest shots, he got wobbled of course, but he was always in the fight.
I stand corrected as i did a quick search... however, Mike Tyson had 15 fights in 1985 more than 1 a month. Jake needs to step up the and try aim for 6 fights a year
Geordie spitting facts. We don't give two shits about Tommy Fury and we're sick of waiting
The fact Nate Diaz isn’t even a real 170 pound fighter but Jake struggled to beat him in a sport he’s never competed at 185 pounds should tell he’ll never get anywhere near a high level
Still waiting on Edwards vs Usman 3 breakdown. A fighter fighting out of the UK and just 1 video.
Nahh anyone saying jake got worse knows nothing about boxing
Nate is one of those guys with that weird almost novice style clunky style.... And as any fighter knows it's hard to look good against awkward long fighters... And that's how Jake looked. For me anyway.
Imo 2 fights left in jake Paul’s boxing caree: fight winner of ksi vs fury, then mcgregor after he loses in the ufc
Geordie, during round 4, it’s clear that is jake off round for him to take a rest and coming back stronger in the next round. It just shows a good ring iq
Jakes cardio has gotten way better imo
I like to look at the 7-year rule. kind of arbitrary but I don't think Jake will Plateau for another 3 to 4 years
I think I must really not know boxing, cause to me all I saw was Nate punch Jakes head for the last 5-6 rounds, I guess Jakes knockdown counts for more?
Nate had some success but was getting hit with the cleaner, stronger punches which go far to scoring a round.
This is simple if Jake wants to be that guy in boxing he has to learn how to jab more cause he keeps trying to throw that right power shot.
Tommy never walked him down like that also Nate was getting close and throwing short punches
2:34 98-91 x2 and 97-92 is outclassing nate diaz wdym he didnt outclass him like jorge did? you actin like jorge wasnt gettin slapped and considering jorge looked gassed in the later rounds vs usman (granted 1 week) and colby im sure nate wouldve had even more success if it wasnt for the cut
A clear moral victory for Nate. It was man vs Disney child 😂
disney star beat nate 😂
@@mycrazylife408 did he really? Really? Lol. A non boxer? Really? 😁