I noticed at screen time 5.27 the front of the trailer is very high compared to the back. The Rebel is much higher the the other trucks. This induces sway. I didn't see if you had a drop adjustable hitch. I bet if you dropped it 2 inches the sway would be gone. My friend towed his race car home one time nose high and could only drive 30mph because it was all over the road!.
I don't know about the new model Rebel's, but with my 2020 Rebel, I can have ALL the FLUID TEMPERATURES plus the speed in between the TACH and the SPEEDOMETER. It make it nice to View ALL the fluid temps right in front of the driver! I do LOVE my 2020 RAM REBEL!!
I'm pretty sure you only get the advanced trailer info page when you get the trailer reversing assist package. With that package, you basically drive a short route with 90 degree turns with your trailer hooked up and the truck will detect the length, weight, etc, and then you can fine tune it after it's in the system.
I have a 2021 1500 BigHorn 5th Gen and have the "Blind-Spot and Cross-Path Detection" and "Trailer Brake-Controller" options and do not have the "trailer reversing assist" option yet it allows me to setup different trailers and detects the lengths and such after I do a few 90 degree turns.
The sway comes down to the air suspension. A decent anti-sway bar & weight distribution hitch eliminates that; and with the air suspension, the ride is much nicer than truck in that class without air suspension. My personal experiences with the 5.7L HEMI engines has been that you can get better fuel mileage by switching to a premium racing grade oil, as well as choosing different octane fuel to meet the requirements of your driving. If you're driving long distances on the highway, with no load or only a moderate load, then switch to the highest octane you can get at the pump; and stick to 55-60 mph. If you're driving mostly in the city, or with heavy loads, or off-road, stick with 87 octane. Ultimately, you're right about the off-road package impacting fuel economy. Off-road trucks just suck at saving fuel.
Like other comments before. The air ride suspension is mushy, especially in Aero mode. I haven't towed with my 2016 Rebel, but I have towed many trailers at work. ( driller ) Tires also make a big difference. I've noticed ( at work ) that Goodyear's are mushy, and Michelins are more stable. Also, my Rebel runs better on higher octane fuels.
I have a 2021 Rebel Ecodiesel with no air suspension, payload is 1477. My trailer is about the same size as yours (It's a Kodiak 201QB). I tow without a weight distributing hitch, have a Hayes Sway Master installed on the trailer. I've towed over 7,200 miles and never had any sway issues. Like someone else commented, your hitch may be too high. Check the trailer Manufacturer spec to see where your ball height should be when towing. Mine is 18". Diesel provides a lot "calmer" tow experience. My engine revs to 2,800 when it down shifts, only goes to 3,200 at the steepest hills. Normally spins at 1,800 - 2,000 in 7th and 6th gear. AND, I've averaged 13.80 MPG for that 7,200 miles of towing. The exhaust note doesn't sound as good, she doesn't accelerate as well unloaded as that HEMI, but for the towing mission I'd recommend the Ecodiesel.
Might have to start doing as a few of the other channels do. Fill the tank till it shuts off, give it a 30 second count and then top it off. My friends and I have actually been doing that for years
As long as you’re filling the truck the same way. Don’t matter if you wait 30 sec then top off (TFL Trucks), or stop on the first click. Be consistent.
^this. I've been consistent for years and only occasionally have an issue. TFL also has some inconsistent readings from time to time with 3 clicks as well. No rhyme or reason.
You should definitely use a weight distribution hitch and a shorter shank along with the anti-sway bars to improve the stability of your setup. You will avoid sway and the truck will feel much more planted and connected to the trailer with no sagging. As pointed out by someone else, the chains should also be criss-crossed. I really like that Rebel GT. It should make a heckuva tow vehicle once the hitch is properly set up.
It's your tires you have to charge your tires to a better tire and it would take off faster and not go back in forth like it's doing when you pulling a tower
still like the gage set up in the older style ram classic , can put water temp , trans temp, oil temp oil press, all in one setting and large number to see what gear im in still not sure of my next tow rig for my airstream
I have a 2019 Dodge Laramie four-door four-wheel drive Max Tow my payload is 1860 and my Towing is 11320 it is the max tow with the 5.7 Hemi no cylinder delete it's not a e torque it does not have the air suspension I love the way it rides and handles anyway I'm looking forward to doing some toys with Mom good video buddy
I have one and if you don't drive it right it can get out of control and spend around because it have a fast take off .the big engine is sat up as one of the fastest ram trucks out their the Rebel
After watching this video the second time, I beleive if you lowered your "ball hitch", it would level the railer, as it appeared thr trailer was higher in the front than the rear, which may affect the sway you talk about.
I was always told that to utilize a weight distributing hitch the truck had to be somewhat lower, creating an angle that caused the hitch to work correctly. With the self leveling, it looks like in the video that the truck hitch is higher that the load, can anyone explain this?
6395 for the trailer weight. Sorry, that was in the full video but accidentally didn't make it into each of the individual videos when we released them separately.
Tim this is off topic but I know you are trying to keep track of issues with the 2022 Tundra. Here is a new one ruclips.net/video/iQKRYB9vdw0/видео.html
@@CeresOutpost ... I currently own 5 vehicles. All have at least one turbo. With today's synthetic oils, these turbo's should last a very long time. Of course, with regular maintenance.
I noticed at screen time 5.27 the front of the trailer is very high compared to the back. The Rebel is much higher the the other trucks. This induces sway. I didn't see if you had a drop adjustable hitch. I bet if you dropped it 2 inches the sway would be gone. My friend towed his race car home one time nose high and could only drive 30mph because it was all over the road!.
The sway control should be set up for each individual truck because hitch heights may differ between trucks. This may account for the trailer sway.
First thing I noticed...
I don't know about the new model Rebel's, but with my 2020 Rebel, I can have ALL the FLUID TEMPERATURES plus the speed in between the TACH and the SPEEDOMETER. It make it nice to View ALL the fluid temps right in front of the driver! I do LOVE my 2020 RAM REBEL!!
Just got my RAM 5.7 Bighorn quad cab yesturday max trailer package love it
I'm pretty sure you only get the advanced trailer info page when you get the trailer reversing assist package. With that package, you basically drive a short route with 90 degree turns with your trailer hooked up and the truck will detect the length, weight, etc, and then you can fine tune it after it's in the system.
I have a 2021 1500 BigHorn 5th Gen and have the "Blind-Spot and Cross-Path Detection" and "Trailer Brake-Controller" options and do not have the "trailer reversing assist" option yet it allows me to setup different trailers and detects the lengths and such after I do a few 90 degree turns.
The sway comes down to the air suspension. A decent anti-sway bar & weight distribution hitch eliminates that; and with the air suspension, the ride is much nicer than truck in that class without air suspension.
My personal experiences with the 5.7L HEMI engines has been that you can get better fuel mileage by switching to a premium racing grade oil, as well as choosing different octane fuel to meet the requirements of your driving.
If you're driving long distances on the highway, with no load or only a moderate load, then switch to the highest octane you can get at the pump; and stick to 55-60 mph. If you're driving mostly in the city, or with heavy loads, or off-road, stick with 87 octane.
Ultimately, you're right about the off-road package impacting fuel economy. Off-road trucks just suck at saving fuel.
I don't care about MPG. Rather the potent V-8 for reliability and longevity.
Totally agree with the sound thing Tim. Not sure why people think they will miss the sound of an eight. I'm in the quiet camp.
Great series you’re doing on all these 1/2 ton trucks. Definitely information I’d be looking at closely if I was in the market for a new truck.
Like other comments before. The air ride suspension is mushy, especially in Aero mode. I haven't towed with my 2016 Rebel, but I have towed many trailers at work. ( driller ) Tires also make a big difference. I've noticed ( at work ) that Goodyear's are mushy, and Michelins are more stable. Also, my Rebel runs better on higher octane fuels.
it actually says it recommends 89 Plus in the owners manual but not to run premium it will hinder its performance
I have a 2021 Rebel Ecodiesel with no air suspension, payload is 1477. My trailer is about the same size as yours (It's a Kodiak 201QB). I tow without a weight distributing hitch, have a Hayes Sway Master installed on the trailer. I've towed over 7,200 miles and never had any sway issues. Like someone else commented, your hitch may be too high. Check the trailer Manufacturer spec to see where your ball height should be when towing. Mine is 18". Diesel provides a lot "calmer" tow experience. My engine revs to 2,800 when it down shifts, only goes to 3,200 at the steepest hills. Normally spins at 1,800 - 2,000 in 7th and 6th gear. AND, I've averaged 13.80 MPG for that 7,200 miles of towing. The exhaust note doesn't sound as good, she doesn't accelerate as well unloaded as that HEMI, but for the towing mission I'd recommend the Ecodiesel.
Might have to start doing as a few of the other channels do. Fill the tank till it shuts off, give it a 30 second count and then top it off. My friends and I have actually been doing that for years
As long as you’re filling the truck the same way. Don’t matter if you wait 30 sec then top off (TFL Trucks), or stop on the first click. Be consistent.
^this. I've been consistent for years and only occasionally have an issue. TFL also has some inconsistent readings from time to time with 3 clicks as well. No rhyme or reason.
Saying this truck is louder, is like say a dog barks. It is the intent of the Borola.
What are the specs on the trailer? Length, weight, tongue weight?
You should definitely use a weight distribution hitch and a shorter shank along with the anti-sway bars to improve the stability of your setup. You will avoid sway and the truck will feel much more planted and connected to the trailer with no sagging. As pointed out by someone else, the chains should also be criss-crossed. I really like that Rebel GT. It should make a heckuva tow vehicle once the hitch is properly set up.
I would crisscross the safety chains. If the hitch pops off, it doesn’t hit the ground. It will rest on the chains until you stop.
I always crisscross the chains.
I wonder how much the decibel level would change with the non-sport exhaust? I know you can only test the trims they give you. Great comparison test.
It would be one of if not the most quiet truck. If you want true real reviews go to TFL.
It's your tires you have to charge your tires to a better tire and it would take off faster and not go back in forth like it's doing when you pulling a tower
still like the gage set up in the older style ram classic , can put water temp , trans temp, oil temp oil press, all in one setting and large number to see what gear im in still not sure of my next tow rig for my airstream
You can still do that on these trucks.
Any 5.7 hemi I’ve had was always a pig on gas towing or hauling anything. Plenty of power, but thirsty.
I have a 2019 Dodge Laramie four-door four-wheel drive Max Tow my payload is 1860 and my Towing is 11320 it is the max tow with the 5.7 Hemi no cylinder delete it's not a e torque it does not have the air suspension I love the way it rides and handles anyway I'm looking forward to doing some toys with Mom good video buddy
Trailer hitch isn't set up correctly. You need to get someone to show you how to set up a trailer properly.
5.7 doesn't take 87 octane gas.
I have one and if you don't drive it right it can get out of control and spend around because it have a fast take off .the big engine is sat up as one of the fastest ram trucks out their the Rebel
After watching this video the second time, I beleive if you lowered your "ball hitch", it would level the railer, as it appeared thr trailer was higher in the front than the rear, which may affect the sway you talk about.
I don't care about MPG. Much rather the reliability and longevity of a V-8.
I want to know if using manual shift mode or paddles and cruising in the top gear if you can mash the gas pedal and it wont change gears?
You have to manually downshift.
Water in tank will make it feel like your ice skating.
Thanks for this vid. I have a Ram 1500 Laramie Hemi eTorque and looking to get a GD Imagine trailer. Which model are you pulling?
21BHE.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Nice! That’s one that I’ve looked at.
good work
I was always told that to utilize a weight distributing hitch the truck had to be somewhat lower, creating an angle that caused the hitch to work correctly. With the self leveling, it looks like in the video that the truck hitch is higher that the load, can anyone explain this?
Can you send its owner catalouge PDF , please.❤
Owner's manual?
Engine oil temp?
Weight
What was the red light on the lower right dash that kept coming on and off?
The GoPro recording light probably.
I didn't look like a light "reflection".. It looked like an actual dash light.
Looks like something....haul
What part of. Nebraska?
Western side. Scottsbluff area.
What's that trailer weight?
6395 for the trailer weight. Sorry, that was in the full video but accidentally didn't make it into each of the individual videos when we released them separately.
@@Pickuptrucktalk That's an average trailer weight, Thanks
Nice there was no traffic!
Well it is Western Nebraska. A traffic jam out here is a tractor holding up traffic…
Between 7-10 mpg, that's a pretty generic/vague range
Tim this is off topic but I know you are trying to keep track of issues with the 2022 Tundra. Here is a new one ruclips.net/video/iQKRYB9vdw0/видео.html
whew, 7 mpg's?? Yikes!! RIP the Hemi 5.7L and WELCOME the ALL NEW Hurricane I-6 twin turbo!! This V8 has always been a slug and thirsty at that!! Lol
Having owned various vehicles with stock turbos - be careful what you wish for...
@@CeresOutpost ... I currently own 5 vehicles. All have at least one turbo. With today's synthetic oils, these turbo's should last a very long time. Of course, with regular maintenance.