It's a movie, but it's got purpose right? It seems to be that Nina had a much more objective view of things. It seems that the only reason R. had to stay in his marriage was his daughter. He had begun looking for sg else long ago, he wasn't happy, he wasn't satisfied, and maybe divided in two he felt free. On the whole I've learned that love isn't simple at all and that some love is better than none. We are all imperfect and have to choose between love and any other alternative.💕🌄🎄✨🎼
A really touching movie, but there is never an excuse for getting involved with a married man. My heart goes out to his wife and daughter and little Eric. Thank you fot sharing. Richard Crenna is always good ❤
Lingsay wagner as a mistress??? how did i miss this wonderful tragic movie of Lindsay wagner no less.. im an avid fan ...the dramatization of TV movies are always so intense and never boring.. this is why i made sure to watch every single movie of hers
Beautiful houses (homes). A tragedy. I think that a good thing about this movie is that it allows a window into the future. Honesty may be hard, but the truth will always be less hard to accept than lies. The wounds that we may cause prevent us from making mistakes we should and can avoid. How beautiful to see the personal struggles between selfishness and love, and how love can prevail! 🎄✨🎼🕯️🕊️
This is so sad. It's just ashamed that this happens because people are so selfish and self-centered that they think they can pull this off and get away with it. It's no different, even in short term affairs. In the end someone always gets hurt. No one thinks about the other person.
I love Richard Crenna. He had a handsome face that was well-liked by children. My favorite scene of him is when he says, "Nobody made Rambo. I made Rambo." It's about one hour and two minutes into that movie, R.I.P.
I was very pleased when Richard's wife finally met with Beth and got a chance to look at little Eric.She made the right decision to make sure that Eric would be financially provided for. Both women shared a deep love for Richard.
The writers should have kept Richard and Joanne's characters in their early to mid 50s. There was no way she was passing for 48. But, as a kid I remember 50 year olds looking older than what they were in 1984.
This is the second time youtube is recommending this. Of course with different titles and thumbnails. Guess watching again can't hurt. It's a good movie.
His wife said she’ll be 50 by the time she graduates law school 😂, She looks at LEAST 60/65 they were married for25 yrs, if she was 18 when they got married she’s 43.😂 There’s NO WAY she’s 43. Make the actors fit the roll.🙄😂
Touching, frustrating, sad and angry;resolution. I love Lyndsey Wagoner, Alice Richard Cremona even more! In any movie or show, he is so versatile, good looking and a fine actor!
I saw this years ago. I have always enjoyed Richard's movies. The other actors/actresses are good as well. What is absolutely annoying are the obnoxious commercials -- I think they occur every 5 minutes or so. Those ads spoiled the movie for me.
To be loved by both women and the children he loved. What a life and maybe worth all the work it was. That is likely what killed him. Sorry for those left behind.
Some relationships like this one start because people don't tell they are married. After that feelings and circumstances start playing a big role and it becomes a fight that everyone wants to win.
I realize that my comment will go against the grain of many in society today but "8 stolen years" was appropriately said. You stole from his wife. You stole from his daughter. You stole what wasn't yours. He lived a double life while lying to his wife, daughter, church, and everyone. The betrayal is deep. When two people make a commitment in marriage VOWS, they are never to be broken. Society is becoming so far removed from the seriousness of adultery. Adultery is a very serious thing in the eyes of the Creator of Heaven and Earth which is where marriage laws originally come from and the authorities of this Earth are supposed to be adhering to. Marriage laws are so binding that the new testament says that even if a man puts away (divorces) his wife except for fornication, and marries another, he commits adultery: meaning that the 2nd marriage is nothing more than adultery. These are the facts, as ugly as they sound, and adultery is not allowed any more than murder is. Words to live and die by. Wickedness can seem innocent. This is deception.
Maybe why society has degraded so lo as to not get involved n marriage. They liv together and evn hav children. It is the accepted norm. It's easier to just walk away if feelings wane rather than go thru the legal and financial ramifications. Yes, the othr woman is n the wrong here, esp to hav a child. In the movie Lindsay wasn't greedy. Sad movie but impressively executed. 👍
Things like this happened after 9/11. There were some men with two families and neither family knew of each other. The spouses only found out when it came to cash Life Insurance policies and transfer real estate.
Theme of wealth property disputes, intelligence says be prepared in eventuality rather than leaving ugliness behind , make use/ distribute of everything while living and in your full senses.
Unfortunately the wife knew he was cheating on me yet she chose to stay married to him. Life is complicated sometimes things happen that no one expects.
I think that's a very good point and maybe an important focus in this movie, we may convince ourselves of sg we like and want, and ignore all the signs that indicate the opposite. Is it really love or is it pride? The anger she shows is more a result of deception than of the adultery itself, but she understood she had deceived herself.
@@sandyfields678I believe that most of us wouldn't, if we knew sg like that would happen. I also believe that many of us can forgive adultery (at least once), but I believe also that deception is sg that shouldn't be accepted out of dignity. 🕊️🕯️⚠️🧡
Literally, no point depending on a man's professed loyalty ladies, it never lives up to one's expectations, and thankfully forcing someone really isn't our idea of romance and love ❤😊
Human beings need to understand [ of course coming in my discussion shows] love is limitless boundless, you keep pets you love, you love your children , parents, friends, nature world issues with passion, then don’t smear love sensual or otherwise for another being, it’s very much there, bound to happen more than once in your life, foolish to think it cannot ,on the other hand responsibilities, duties grounded as in families are bounded you must carry them through.
What a selfish woman Nina is. She was very comfortable having a house on the beach with her son and just enjoying the good times. She even broke the sculptures when she found out the stupid man have bought them and oh, was she hurt believing he told her she was talented. The man on her part didn't have the guts to ask for a divorce if he truly loved her. When some one cheats, eventually ends up in a horrible mess to everyone involved.
TRIVIA: JOANNE WOODWARD:- Born: Joanne Gignilliat Trimmier Woodward February 27, 1930 (age 94-in 2024) Thomasville, Georgia, U.S. Joanne has been widowed since 2008, lived for many years in Westport, Connecticut, where she and Newman raised their daughters. She retreated from public life following a diagnosis of Alzheimer's disease in 2007. Woodward last publicly appeared in 2013.
That conversation the 2 women had at the end was spot on. A mistress can physically leave but the emotional attachment will always be there. So you are locked in. Love is a strong thing. Both women are willful victims of a man that won't or for whatever reason can't make up his mind and he burns the candle at both ends. He doesn't get burned but the women feel the burn. It's the same when it's the woman stepping outside the marriage. I think in both cases what sets it all off is each is seeking a need they aren't finding any longer in the marriage. But society has dictated it's till death you part so they feel obligated to stay or be put on a guilt trip by bible bangers.
Poor good wife who struggled through the numerous infidelities, & lies & deceptions of her wicked hubby. Special kudos to her for making sure little sweet boy taken care off. Adulterous self-absorbed now dead hubby loved NOBODY but himself. Attention seeking feel good worthless man. Silly adultress mistress does not know what love is. If she did she would keep her dirty heart & hands off someone else's hubby. Grow up! Get a life! Both Children are innocent players in this sordid story.
Today wills have to on audiovisuals with will maker clearly saying how and what to be done according to his ‘ will’ I guess ,along with written which can/ are manipulated not that audiovisual voice layovers tracks cannot but those can be found out with experts help, and it’s made easy today with your camera video phones selfie record and send it to your lawyer and whomsoever you want to, and as my mind is in tech also I might create an app of it😊
This movie is trash. Glorifying adultery, lack of morals or empathy. It’s complete selfishness. The unmitigated gall & nerve of that mistress was infuriating. And we wonder why the moral fiber of our country is in the trash.
saw the movie around the wee hours of the morning thinking will just check it out for a few minutes because of Lindsay Wagner & Joanne Woodward but the story and the script got me glued till the very end and it's now 4:21 in the morning. I'd say this is a very good movie well written and edited not to mention the fine acting . Magnificent portrayal of triangles that happen everyday in our society. The hurts, the pains, the betrayals. But what can we do we're all subject to err as humans subject to the caprices of our natural make up, blinded most of the time by concepts of and need for love, sex, comfort, etc. I'll stop before i make a dissertation of some sort and make a fool of myself . I'll recommend this movie to those who are about to embark on the "foreverness" thing and to those studying sociology. To recap, this movie is beautiful. Now I'll just brew coffee and wait for the stock market to open in 2 more hours and ride the quantum ETF stocks for a few dollars. Thanks for posting !!!!❤💙💚🦜🦆🐊🌳🌲💐☘🍅🎀🎇☕☕☕
Do you think marriage is an archaic notion?
Nope
No. But I do think that believing that some magic will keep it together or make it great is. ❤
No
an absolute subtle archaic model of control
Although I would never share my husband with anyone.
He sure left behind an honorable legacy, didn't he. Two brocken hearted women.
It's a movie, but it's got purpose right? It seems to be that Nina had a much more objective view of things. It seems that the only reason R. had to stay in his marriage was his daughter. He had begun looking for sg else long ago, he wasn't happy, he wasn't satisfied, and maybe divided in two he felt free.
On the whole I've learned that love isn't simple at all and that some love is better than none. We are all imperfect and have to choose between love and any other alternative.💕🌄🎄✨🎼
And adult involving all time at kids 😢❤❤
Two women with lots of special moments to remember.
A really touching movie, but there is never an excuse for getting involved with a married man. My heart goes out to his wife and daughter and little Eric. Thank you fot sharing. Richard Crenna is always good ❤
There's never an excuse for a married man to seek out having an affair with a single and/or married woman.
Never get involved with a pilot They always I mean always cheat
He wouldn't have a beard back then for an airline pilot job
Only if you don't know he is married.
It's a movie. Fiction.
Excellent movie, excellent script, excellent character performances ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Lingsay wagner as a mistress??? how did i miss this wonderful tragic movie of Lindsay wagner no less.. im an avid fan ...the dramatization of TV movies are always so intense and never boring.. this is why i made sure to watch every single movie of hers
She was always beautiful, Joanne Woodward too
A very lovely story,thought provoking.
Many thanks for the upload 😊
Beautiful houses (homes).
A tragedy. I think that a good thing about this movie is that it allows a window into the future. Honesty may be hard, but the truth will always be less hard to accept than lies. The wounds that we may cause prevent us from making mistakes we should and can avoid.
How beautiful to see the personal struggles between selfishness and love, and how love can prevail! 🎄✨🎼🕯️🕊️
Joanne Woodward gives a powerhouse performance. She takes my salute
The stellar cast is equally impressive.
Another good actor that died too soon. RIP.❤❤❤
He was a great actor Richard Crenna he was in Rambo the first one . Gone too soon 🙏
Watch him in THE SAND PEBBLES.
👍👍👍
Agreed.
This is so sad. It's just ashamed that this happens because people are so selfish and self-centered that they think they can pull this off and get away with it. It's no different, even in short
term affairs. In the end someone always gets hurt. No one thinks about the other person.
Any movie with Richard Crenna, I definitely got glued watching it.
Thank you for uploading❤
I love Richard Crenna. He had a handsome face that was well-liked by children. My favorite scene of him is when he says, "Nobody made Rambo. I made Rambo." It's about one hour and two minutes into that movie, R.I.P.
I was very pleased when Richard's wife finally met with Beth and got a chance to look at little Eric.She made the right decision to make sure that Eric would be financially provided for. Both women shared a deep love for Richard.
But he sure left a mess...
That was excellent. Very gripping. Not a boring or slow part at all. Thanks!
A really great movie!It shows the pain the victims were left with.
Extremely brilliant movie.
His older wife got to go home to Paul Newman. So she didn't care. Lol
Awesome
I can’t believe how dowdy they had Joanne Woodward portrayed. She was only supposed to be in her 40’s lol. At first I thought she was his mother!
That hair do is
And in real life he was 4 yrs older than Joann.
The writers should have kept Richard and Joanne's characters in their early to mid 50s. There was no way she was passing for 48. But, as a kid I remember 50 year olds looking older than what they were in 1984.
Joanne Woodward is in this tv movie wow love her !
This is the second time youtube is recommending this. Of course with different titles and thumbnails. Guess watching again can't hurt. It's a good movie.
Excellent true to life story
His wife said she’ll be 50 by the time she graduates law school 😂, She looks at LEAST 60/65 they were married for25 yrs, if she was 18 when they got married she’s 43.😂 There’s NO WAY she’s 43. Make the actors fit the roll.🙄😂
What a good movie!
Touching, frustrating, sad and angry;resolution.
I love Lyndsey Wagoner, Alice Richard Cremona even more! In any movie or show, he is so versatile, good looking and a fine actor!
I Have Seen This B-4 Many Years Ago. Great Movie Depict.
No one wins in an affair while married!
I saw this years ago. I have always enjoyed Richard's movies. The other actors/actresses are good as well. What is absolutely annoying are the obnoxious commercials -- I think they occur every 5 minutes or so. Those ads spoiled the movie for me.
To be loved by both women and the children he loved. What a life and maybe worth all the work it was. That is likely what killed him. Sorry for those left behind.
Im cryi g thru it near ending,..wow..❤❤
This is a very precarious situation to be in
Some relationships like this one start because people don't tell they are married. After that feelings and circumstances start playing a big role and it becomes a fight that everyone wants to win.
The actor who played t junkie in Super Fly showed his acting chops in this role.
Love this movie! ! Thank u For sharing it
I realize that my comment will go against the grain of many in society today but "8 stolen years" was appropriately said. You stole from his wife. You stole from his daughter. You stole what wasn't yours. He lived a double life while lying to his wife, daughter, church, and everyone. The betrayal is deep. When two people make a commitment in marriage VOWS, they are never to be broken. Society is becoming so far removed from the seriousness of adultery. Adultery is a very serious thing in the eyes of the Creator of Heaven and Earth which is where marriage laws originally come from and the authorities of this Earth are supposed to be adhering to. Marriage laws are so binding that the new testament says that even if a man puts away (divorces) his wife except for fornication, and marries another, he commits adultery: meaning that the 2nd marriage is nothing more than adultery. These are the facts, as ugly as they sound, and adultery is not allowed any more than murder is. Words to live and die by. Wickedness can seem innocent. This is deception.
Amén
Maybe why society has degraded so lo as to not get involved n marriage. They liv together and evn hav children. It is the accepted norm. It's easier to just walk away if feelings wane rather than go thru the legal and financial ramifications. Yes, the othr woman is n the wrong here, esp to hav a child. In the movie Lindsay wasn't greedy. Sad movie but impressively executed. 👍
Well said🙏🥰🌹🫶🙌🙌🙌🥰🥰🥰🥰
Pilots world and a cop an a professional sports player always
@@diannemiller1895 💯
Things like this happened after 9/11. There were some men with two families and neither family knew of each other. The spouses only found out when it came to cash Life Insurance policies and transfer real estate.
Theme of wealth property disputes, intelligence says be prepared in eventuality rather than leaving ugliness behind , make use/ distribute of everything while living and in your full senses.
Unfortunately the wife knew he was cheating on me yet she chose to stay married to him. Life is complicated sometimes things happen that no one expects.
Then do not get married..
I think that's a very good point and maybe an important focus in this movie, we may convince ourselves of sg we like and want, and ignore all the signs that indicate the opposite. Is it really love or is it pride? The anger she shows is more a result of deception than of the adultery itself, but she understood she had deceived herself.
@@sandyfields678I believe that most of us wouldn't, if we knew sg like that would happen. I also believe that many of us can forgive adultery (at least once), but I believe also that deception is sg that shouldn't be accepted out of dignity. 🕊️🕯️⚠️🧡
Women stay for the money
It kept u glued to your seat. It was an interesting movie ..men cheat all the time 😢
Literally, no point depending on a man's professed loyalty ladies,
it never lives up to one's expectations,
and thankfully forcing someone really isn't our idea of romance and love ❤😊
The moral of the story is ; always do a background on your husband ! And you should always have the number of a private investigator! Have a nice day!
Nice movie😊😊😊
great film. thank you
Human beings need to understand [ of course coming in my discussion shows] love is limitless boundless, you keep pets you love, you love your children , parents, friends, nature world issues with passion, then don’t smear love sensual or otherwise for another being, it’s very much there, bound to happen more than once in your life, foolish to think it cannot ,on the other hand responsibilities, duties grounded as in families are bounded you must carry them through.
Yes, love is duty
Very good movie. Much better than the crap that is on tv.
Beautiful movie 🇹🇷🙋
It's 13:18 already looks like a great movie thanks for sharing :))
I hate that parents and children kiss on the mouth.
We need to put the blame where it belongs,he took the vows and while the women pay so do the children.
Very gut movies ❤
Wait. She is suppose to be In her 40's. I thought she was 60 +. What bad casting
60 now is the new 40
@@lizabliss1426 😂 not really, only in our fantasy land
Joanne Woolworthis Paul Newman wife, Linsey Wagner, RICHARD Cremona are one hell of a cast!
Typically a Gentleman's Business man and his wife also-ran a spearwheel
True nature of men.wonderful woman,the Wife ❤
Lila is Aunt Bedelia! Portrayed by Viveca Lindfors.
Like cuz the Mom say"l do it for you and mi❤❤😢
What a selfish woman Nina is. She was very comfortable having a house on the beach with her son and just enjoying the good times. She even broke the sculptures when she found out the stupid man have bought them and oh, was she hurt believing he told her she was talented. The man on her part didn't have the guts to ask for a divorce if he truly loved her. When some one cheats, eventually ends up in a horrible mess to everyone involved.
The husband was a huge jerk and the women are better off without him.
TRIVIA:
JOANNE WOODWARD:-
Born: Joanne Gignilliat Trimmier Woodward
February 27, 1930 (age 94-in 2024)
Thomasville, Georgia, U.S.
Joanne has been widowed since 2008, lived for many years in Westport, Connecticut,
where she and Newman raised their daughters.
She retreated from public life following a diagnosis of Alzheimer's disease in 2007.
Woodward last publicly appeared in 2013.
Ah! February 27 is my birth date as well🎉😊
That conversation the 2 women had at the end was spot on. A mistress can physically leave but the emotional attachment will always be there. So you are locked in. Love is a strong thing. Both women are willful victims of a man that won't or for whatever reason can't make up his mind and he burns the candle at both ends. He doesn't get burned but the women feel the burn. It's the same when it's the woman stepping outside the marriage. I think in both cases what sets it all off is each is seeking a need they aren't finding any longer in the marriage. But society has dictated it's till death you part so they feel obligated to stay or be put on a guilt trip by bible bangers.
Or MAYBE by the needs of his FIRST wife and CHILDREN!
Very btfl movie with so much lessons
Joanne looks80 yrs old🎉
Mighty God..what a life to live SMH 🤦♀️
Enjoy her character in The Long Hot Summer
Poor good wife who struggled through the numerous infidelities, & lies & deceptions of her wicked hubby. Special kudos to her for making sure little sweet boy taken care off.
Adulterous self-absorbed now dead hubby loved NOBODY but himself. Attention seeking feel good worthless man.
Silly adultress mistress does not know what love is. If she did she would keep her dirty heart & hands off someone else's hubby. Grow up! Get a life!
Both Children are innocent players in this sordid story.
Today wills have to on audiovisuals with will maker clearly saying how and what to be done according to his ‘ will’ I guess ,along with written which can/ are manipulated not that audiovisual voice layovers tracks cannot but those can be found out with experts help, and it’s made easy today with your camera video phones selfie record and send it to your lawyer and whomsoever you want to, and as my mind is in tech also I might create an app of it😊
Too many ads, I'm out of here😒
Couldnt hear it.
The wife looks 80 years old that hair cut is awful this movie didn't fit the actors she said she's be 50 by the time she graduated she looks 80 now
This movie is trash. Glorifying adultery, lack of morals or empathy. It’s complete selfishness. The unmitigated gall & nerve of that mistress was infuriating. And we wonder why the moral fiber of our country is in the trash.
@dd4run At no time did this movie "glorify" adultery but your buttons were certainly pushed. I wonder why.
@@lisas8244 You're wondering and i know.
Evidently it is really EASY to slide into the role of mistress...
We all r h7mans wjo error slong wxy..good movie.w fin3 sctors....
So predictable,so boring ,so immoral..typically 1980s film..
My how funerals have changed.
Mediocre , lots of nice knitwear on the women 😊
My ex husband had affairs.
It sucks
1:27:43
The wife looks too old
saw the movie around the wee hours of the morning thinking will just check it out for a few minutes because of Lindsay Wagner & Joanne Woodward but the story and the script got me glued till the very end and it's now 4:21 in the morning. I'd say this is a very good movie well written and edited not to mention the fine acting . Magnificent portrayal of triangles that happen everyday in our society. The hurts, the pains, the betrayals. But what can we do we're all subject to err as humans subject to the caprices of our natural make up, blinded most of the time by concepts of and need for love, sex, comfort, etc. I'll stop before i make a dissertation of some sort and make a fool of myself . I'll recommend this movie to those who are about to embark on the "foreverness" thing and to those studying sociology. To recap, this movie is beautiful. Now I'll just brew coffee and wait for the stock market to open in 2 more hours and ride the quantum ETF stocks for a few dollars. Thanks for posting !!!!❤💙💚🦜🦆🐊🌳🌲💐☘🍅🎀🎇☕☕☕
1:35:32