Peter Frampton - How Did He Get The Talk Box that made Him FAMOUS? - YOU DECIDE
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2020
- This clip features the great Peter Frampton and Nashville session producer and steel guitarist, Pete Drake. Pete was not the inventor but was an innovator of the talk box. Pete Drake was on the "All Things Must Pass" session with George Harrison and that's where he met Peter Frampton.
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![Roger Troutman on The Talkbox [Video Soul - 1987]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/L_CBZkd2tGE/mqdefault.jpg)
Still love his guts!
Wow, okay??
I graduated in 76'. You could not go anywhere, any party, walk through any apartment complex on a Friday or Saturday evening without hearing his "Frampton Comes Alive" album emanating from someone's apartment.
I was nine years old in 1976 & can attest to this.
I was born in 82. Always wished i could have experienced the 70’s.
So true!
Peter Frampton a story of giving back. I'm a sound engineer, that worked at a casino in Canada. Peter was playing two nights in the show room. One of the cooks that worked there has a daughter with amazing guitar skills. She asked the house engineer what time sound check on the first day was . That day her daughter waited near the elevators, when Peter got on so did she. She said hi and presented Peter with a recording of her playing. Just before show time, low and behold there she is side of stage. Peters touring engineer set up an, IEM mix for her. She watched the show and got comfortable with the IEM. The next day sound check, there she is with her guitar. That night Peter told the story of her jumping on the elevator and giving him the recording. Commenting that he was doing the same thing, when he was trying to get a foot in the door. She came out and played two songs with Peter and ripped a couple of solos to standing ovations. What a great guy never forgetting where it starts. Thank you Peter, one of the great memories, in my 30 year in the business.
IEM / in ear monitor.
That’s a great story... Peter is a really good guy. A couple years after our first induction concert in 2007.... Uriel Jones... one of the Motown Funk Brothers passed away. He was a really good person... he and I became very good friends in short order. Felt like a life long friendship from the start. I asked Peter if he would like to perform with the Funk Brothers at the induction and he flipped out saying yes!!! I’m a huge fan of their’s from the beginning. He sang Signed, Sealed Delivered and “Shotgun” with them that night... It was great.Funny thing was they had no idea who he was... never heard of him but after that night they recorded with Peter and they too became good friends., When Uriel passed , I flew to Detroit for his funeral. Me and Funk Brother Bob Babbitt were the only two white people there until I turned around and standing next to me was Peter. He flew there by himself.. no body knew...That tells you what kind of a person he really is... Best... Joe
@@MusiciansHallofFameMuseum Wow, what a touching story, he is a genuinely great, giving human being.
Class.
What casino. I’m in Canada too
Wayne Deadder River Rock. Vancouver
He is so nice. I had a crush on Peter Frampton when I was a kid.
So did I! And I still do.
Peter Frampton is another world treasure. He’s been going through some medical problems as of late; I hope he overcomes them so that he can continue playing.
Very thoughtful Ricardo... Peter is a great guy and has been a big supporter of the musicians Hall of Fame from the start giving his time and talent to help induct the Motown Funk Brothers and years later Don Felder... Peter was also inducted into the MHOF in 2016. Best.. Joe
I wanted to throwup everytime I heard Do You Feel Like I Do :-0.......
John Caldwell maybe you feel like I do with poor SRV; he’s been played to death.
@@vayabroder729 back in what 75 or 76 they played that Framton album to death. Every FM station from Dallas to Houston wore the grooves off that album. Now I love SRV, jimi and Jeff Beck! Some 50 years later I'm still listening to jimi. For some reason I don't get tired of his work.
John Caldwell got that right! Who can ever get tired of Jimi? Pure genius like Jeff Beck.
Frampton was red-hot when I was 14-15 years old. My best friend and I knew every note on Frampton Comes Alive. What a positive and beautiful soundtrack for two summers
Peter smiling and positive as always. What a great person, musician and performer.
Peter Drake was an absolute legend
even when he just plays lay lady lay so effortlessly it just sound absolutely insane
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Simon… joe
Glad to see Bob Heil gets credit for PF's talk box sound. Bob Heil is an amazing innovator when it comes to sound production. Plus he's a HAM Radio guy which is another plus for me.
Yes...Heil is the one to be given credit. He operated a sound reinforcement business in Illinois ...he had provided PA equipment for the Grateful Dead's shows in St Louis after the band's equipment was confiscated in New Orleans because of drug bust.
😁👍
That's what lured me to this video. Bob is featured on a lot of ham YT channels I watch. Always been a fan of his mics. Have one at my station connected to my main KW TS990S. 73 de KI1Y
He use to show up at our ham buddies "pizza day" here in Springfield Mo several years ago. Great times.
@@raybin6873 that’s cool I’ve lived in Illinois all my life was it in the Chicagoland area? I’m about to look it up just wanted to say that’s cool
I like Peter Frampton when he was with humble pie
Love him so much to this day … that smile is everything . He deserves hall of fame over so many others who have gotten the honor
Frampton! Simply put...the worlds truly a better place with him in it! So appreciate his commitment to authenticity! Very much seems like a man that DIDN'T sell his soul!!!
Excellent Presentation. Peter Frampton is such a humble soul,
salt of the earth. ♡
Thanks Norman.... Joe
That's why he was in Humble Pie! Natural Born Boogie is my fav song of all time!😅🎶💙🎶
I've seen Peter in Frampton a couple times. Sounds great live.
I knew Pete Drake personally, and he showed me how to play a few things on the pedal steel guitar many years ago. I also knew his wife, Rose. You can actually make one of these talk boxes from an inverted horn driver. I have a home-made one for the 70's. I am also a big fan of Peter Frampton. Unfortunately, I never had the honor and pleasure to meet him. Maybe someday??? "Show me the way" :)
I love how anyone that's ever met George Harrison does a perfect impression of him
When Frampton Comes Alive! came out in 1976, every band playing high school dances had to learn all of those tunes. I couldn't afford the Heil Sound version of the talk box, so I made my own out of a piece of plastic tubing from the local hardware store, and a 15-watt horn from Radio Shack; the whole outfit probably cost me $20.
Thanks for sharing Patrick....Joe
Pete didn’t give Frampton the talk box but he definitely Showed Him The Way! 🎸🤖
Drake wouldn't even sell Frampton one or help him acquire one! Frampton asked him and offered to pay him ("Name your price...") and Drake selfishley said, "No, this is mine, I invented it and it's mot for sale." For years Drake went around telling anyone who would listen that Frampton & Joe Walsh had stolen his idea and threatened to sue them for patent infringement. He also threatened to sue Bob Heil. They all told him, "Bring it on, sue us one and all and we'll see you in court!" He never launched that lawsuit. Why? Becaue he knew he didn't have a leg to stand on, much less a case for any kind of litigation, in civil court or otherwise against any of them.
please don't quit your day job for comedy
@@errorsofmodernism9715 Oh I thought that was pretty funny.
Excellent. We all owe you a beer
I think we need to hook Frampton up to a lie detector, because "somethings happening". "All I wanna be" is on the side of truth to find out who gave him the squock box.
Still one of my favorite albums. Frampton comes alive!
Thanks 77..... Joe
Saw Frampton and Bowie together in 1987.
Best guitar player I saw live.
Never saw many dead ones.
Peter Framton is one of the greatest players ever in my book changed my life
We will always love you Peter. You got a lot of us through the 70's!
Talk box didn't make Frampton famous. It was his ability to play and sing! The talk box was just a gimmick.
@doubleheadergr Jeff Beck did before all of them you named I think.
I guess Frampton was the one that really showcased it as part of his sound and popularised it with his clever use of it on his iconic songs.
WITH YOU....I seen Frampton at the Fillmore...at least 8 years before the talk box..... Frampton was established by 17.... He was the sound of humble Pie....marriott....had the vocals....Frampton was the guitar strength ..........
@doubleheadergr Amen to that.
That's the thing about the talk box or any guitar effect. You gotta have talent or it's just a gimmick.
Framptom is such a master with that talk box, great troubadour n humble to boot! Thank you Peter for all of great music, n song writings god bless you!
Pete Drake is my cousin it's cool to see video of him.
The first time I heard a Talk Box live (a Bob Heil one) was Joe Walsh & Barnstorm, 1974 at Winterland, San Francisco. At the time I didn't realize anyone else could hear it... I just thought it was the LSD I had taken.
What a sympatic guy Peter Frampton is!
Peter is such a class act. Got that double live album when I was 15 and played it till the needle wore out. Wish I could have seen his show once.
On tour summer 2023 Never Say Never
Very cool. In 1975 I worked for Bob Heil and built talk boxes and mixers. 10 years later I was a staff writer for the Tillis folks... in Pete's old building and studio. Loved this, Joe... Thanks.
Thanks Wilbur... joe
Peter Frampton is on tour once again ❗ don't miss your chance to see him LIVE..... He is performing in Windsor Ontario Canada March 16th 2024 and then throughout the USA afterwards. Probably the best guitarist that ever lived. I saw him live back in 2011 when we lived in the USA and it was definitely the highlight of my 5 years living in the states.
Bob Heil is the inventor of the “Talk Box” and that has been recognized by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame who had inducted him into it for that invention. Bob is a brilliant and multi-talented person. His electronic knowledge extends through amateur radio, and I have talked with him on 2 meters. He is a very friendly and kind man.
Mr. Heil certainly sells a boatload of microphones for amateur radio being backed by Joe Walsh, who is an amateur. Smart, multi-talented people who have added so much.
I want to say he also helped The Who do Quadrophenia(?) after meeting them at the Mississippi River Festivals in the St. Louis area back in the 70's. Whenever Peter would come to play St. Louis, he would talk about Bob, since he lived (still does) in the area.
Hey Keith, I don't know if you know this, but your wife is cheating on you...
No. Bob Heil didn’t invent it. Here’s Pete Drake, the actual inventor of the talk box, on the Jimmy Dean Show demoing it:
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“Recognized by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.” Lmao. Like that means anything.
There's so many wrong certain people
Frampton comes alive was my first concert and I went with my son 35yers later when he did The Frampton comes alive 35 tour. I still have both tickets . Best time's of my life
I got to see Peter last Oct, (2019) his second to last show on his farewell tour. Feel blessed. 🙏🏼
Saw Peter with Ringo. Peter stole the show. Nice genuine humble guy. I spoke to him on a radio call in.
I’ve been seeing several vids lately of Frampton sitting for interviews.. quite a few different ones actually and most seem like they were filmed during the last 5 or 8 years I think. A man of his talent and success in his field could easily sit back, refuse interviews, and surround himself with only the elite. A really big thumbs up to him for remaining so humble, approachable, and also so supportive of others. I get the sense that he would not have hesitated to give credit had he been given a talk box.
I've heard a bunch of those station id's in the 60's. Never knew Pete was the performer on them, but I did know about his box because "Forever" was a hit and I liked it.
Peter Frampton made the talk box noticed, he was already a well known and super talented musician!
Frampton is an awesome and underrated guitarist.
Using the word underrated in youtube land IS way to OVERRATED.......TRUE story !!
@@shanghunter7697 you're phunny. True story.
they say it's because he was pretty haha
@@shanghunter7697 Frampton underrated ??????? I don't think so...... Maybe you underrate him?
Well this is mindblowing!!!! We grew up playing Peter Frampton songs, and yeah, we were blown away by the talk box. I've got to do some Pete Drake homework!!!! Thank you Joe!
My father knew Bob Heil and we used to go to his music store in Marisa, ILLINOIS. My dad was a Corvette design engineer and Bob wanted to know about fiberglass. Ye Olde Music was the name of the store, seemingly in the middle of nowhere in this small town. Always loved the way Pete Drake’s steel guitar blended with the organ in George’s song Behind That Locked Door (written for Mr Dylan). I met George when I was a kid, he seemed like the ultimate hippie to me.
Yes sir! I remember my dad driving me to Ye Old Music Shoppe in 1973 to get a brand-spankin new Les Paul Standard! This was to replace the Rickenbacker that my deranged neighbor destroyed. Anyway ... great time with dad. The Les Paul was $400 new! Still my #1. I think most of the major touring acts that came through St. Louis would head over to Marissa. I remember walking in the store just awestruck. One of Pete Townsend's smashed guitars was hanging from the ceiling. Speaker cabinets o plenty had just come in off the road from BTOs latest tour. And tons of other memorabilia. Plenty of gear. Time with dad? Priceless.
Bob Heil has produced affordable high quality microphones and accessories for years. Not only does he produce microphones for the entertainment industry he is also known for the same quality microphones for the Amature radio community. From what I have learned is that Bob no longer makes the Talk Box but I am looking at various plans on the Internet to make one from scratch.
Man this video brings back great memories from the seventies. Love that music!
That's Amateur radio guys. Most people refer to it as "ham radio." I've been licensed since 1969. With today's technology Amateur radio has never been better and you don't have to be an electrical engineer to become involved. He makes the best microphones and accessories. You'll never me a nicer guy. Thanks Bob for all you do!
In 1974 I used my Mini Moog synthesizer through a Talk Box for the Jobriath recording of Weightless Love. I still have the first original unit made out of wood. It's in perfect condition.
Saw an interview w/ Jeff Beck and refers to this effect, and Framptons taking it to a whole nother' level, in a respectable jealous tone of voice.
I can’t get enough of these behind the scenes stories. Thank you for the video.
Love Peter Frampton too.
Thank you Jimmy... Joe
Time to get a life, eh?
fantastic story behind an iconic sound in rock history - thank you so much for making and posting!
Went to see Robin Trower open for Frampton years ago.
Frampton absolutely blew me away. The tone. The ability. The vocals. The positive energy he gave off was infectious.
Just the greatest concert.
Bless him. I wish him well with his health. I adore him. He seems so nice
What about Robin Trower, he must have been good to?
Saw Peter open for Journey in early 2000's. Having seen Journey many times, I really only wanted to see Peter live. He didn't disappoint. He does seem genuinely nice.
Enjoyed this so much Joe, Thnx, Yes remember seeing the clip from an earlier show, that Lay Lady Lady piece. Perfect and a nice guy Peter Frampton
Peter Frampton was the first concert I ever went to at 16 years old. I still vividly remember it. The Los Angeles Forum, 1976.
Loved Peter Frampton since Humble Pie days and still do
Almost forgot... One of the first vinyl albums I ever owned was Peter Frampton Live.
Great memories of my childhood and the eclectic collection of music my Mom and I shared.
(my Dad wanted nothing to do with that “Crazy Rock & Roll” noise... 🤣)
Thank you Mr. Chambers!!
You’re welcome RBAD.... Joe
I remember the 70s rock radio and Frampton comes alive. What a great album. Peter Frampton is a great musician, i would love having opportunity to meet him. Great VID THANKS
Thanks for this and many others video.
Like many in amateur audio recording and Ham Radio, I know Bob Heil. He's a very accomplished theater organist, radio amateur operator, super electronics engineer and all around super decent guy. Before COVID he was was holding court at all of the amateur radio Hamfests like Dayton and Orlando. Bob treated everyone like an old friend. I can see how Peter's eye light up talking about him. Same effect it has on Joe Walsh. I hope to see Bob at Dayton this year.
Saw him around 20 years ago, great show and Bob Mayo was playing.
Was that with Journey and John Waite? I saw them in Albuquerque and El Paso, both were great shows!
Glad you gave Bob Heil credit... Thank You...
I watched a television program, it may have been Austin City Limits, where Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown, and Roy Clark made their instruments speak without a Talk Box, just pure playing skill !
Who can forget Frampton comes alive! Wore that record out....got the double casette and ultimately the CD. 1976 that tour came to Detroit....wow! Great show, what a time for music.
Frampton is pure class!
This is a wonderful story! Love getting the detail and history.
Heil sound was one town over I was lucky enough to talk to Bob Heil myself as a child my stepdad was friends with him.
I graduated in 1974. Went to see Frampton in concert at Ohio University in1974.
Just a great guy. Peter; you’re the man
Peter is great Love his guitar writing vocals Always have admired him
Nice guy too met. Him a few times and he invited us to a party once after a show
Thanks Peter
Be well ..
Absolutely great..Mr Peter Frampton.
Thanks for watching David....Joe
Bob Heil in an interview said he made one for Joe Walsh for Rocky Mountain Way then Peter Got one
True, they are both Ham Radio Operators. And Bob invented the electronic one.
Boom, there it is.
Re: the comment about being electronic... they weren't. Just a line in from amp to an EV driver to tube. Shape of your mouth formed the sound and typically the mic amplified it. I worked for Heil in the 80s and built them.
Sorry... I meant 70s 👍
Love it!! Thank you for letting us decide. These sort of things happen.
mVm
Interesting seeing both versions. Also the photo that accompanies the George Harrison story.
Didn't really become a Frampton fan until I went to see Robert Cray in Cleveland and Peter was there with his Guitar Circus. What an extremely likable person as well as an awesome artist! I've been to see him five times since, including two of his acoustic shows which are an absolute delight. Just finished his memoir. I wish him the best of health and hope to see him in concert again in the future. Also, his blues album and his "Now" album are fantastic.
Whoever Invented it, Job well done,... I heard it for the 1st time in 1969... Sly & The Family Stone - Sex Machine.
I was thinking the same thing
6:04 Bob Heil, K9EID, ham radio operator and sound guy extraordinaire!
Pete Drake was a legend for that.
Inspired Stevie,Peter, Troutman and many more!
It's amazing that the sound was from the fifties. Yet we artists take an make our own from everyone before us. I grew up listening to Frampton, scorpions, Joe Walsh,etc. I never know it was that old ,such a great feeling. We learn from those around us.
What a wonderful man ❤️
super duper astonish talkbox
Very nice little story! People were so convinced that he could actually make a guitar talk, because they had never seen him use it. Interesting that it was invented so long ago...Thank you!
That interview answered a question i had for a very long time. How did Peter Frampton come up with the box. This was very cool. I remember when I bought his album Frampton comes alive and I still have it till this day. Way to go frampton.
Great Story! Loved it! Always a real treat and a pleasure to watch history music. I wish you continued success! Thank you for posting this.
Angel.... thanks for watching... Best......Joe
Love it!
Beautiful soul
I was in the army in 1976 when Frampton's live album came out, I had just bought my first car and got a cheap 35 dollar 8 track player from sears. I bought the 8 track version of Peters record. It was a double album set and the tape was heavy, My player couldn't pull the weight of the tape and ate it, I returned it to the PX. They didn't want to give the 10 dollars back but had no choice. I then bought the only one remaining. It did the same thing.
I really enjoyed this. Saw Frampton LIVE at Celebrity Theatre about 10-12 years ago. He had such an attentive guitar tech it was a different guitar after nearly every song. He put on an excellent show and is very comfortable with what his older fans want to hear. And GOLLY, just how great was that Pete Drake “Lay Lady Lay” ? Made my day !!
Always been curious as to who made the “Golden Throat Mouth Tube” advertised in Rolling Stone magazine in the 70’s.
This is great!
I met Bob Heil back in the nineties. He was doing Home theaters at the time. We were at Satellite convention and he told me personally that he was the one that built the Heil Talk box for Peter Frampton. He also told me that he went to Peter’s wedding. He told a lot of things about Peter, his wreck and how he almost lost his arm. So Peter’s version is the true one.
Thanks for watching and sharing your comments Jack. I believe you are telling the facts as you were told but as always there are at least two sides to every story. Peter told me there are a lot of things that happened back then that he doesn’t remember. I knew Pete very well and like you believe what Bob said I totally believe Pete. Joe Walsh has a story too which includes Dottie West’s husband involvement with the talk box which I think includes Pete as well. Maybe one day we will figure it out. Thanks again for watching.. Best, Joe
Small correction: the talk box didn't make him famous. He was known for the talk box, but his talent and his music made him famous!
I have an old friend named Bobby Hearn.....old guitar player from york beach ,Maine....He claimed that he had come up with a version of the talk box and showed it to Frampton...back in the 60's...
Wether Peter Frampton got a freebie or not is a funny twist but I was majorly impressed by the guy doing his talk box thing with his pedal steel. Superb !
My 70's crush!!!! :)
You’re a legend Pete! 🙏🏻
Thanks for watching Paulo......Joe
The person who made the talk box really famous was Roger Troutman of Roger Troutman & Zapp. He made many songs using the talk box. His most famous songs using it was "More Bounce" and "California Love" you would've heard the latter at this past Super Bowl halftime show
Thats funny
Thank you
Peter is such a cool guy! I'd love to hang out with him! I always loved his music!
His music was always so uplifting .
Thanks for watching Cheryl….. Joe
The Radio Luxembourg jingles were done by PAMS of Dallas using a Sonovox
Consistently great content, you guys are the best.
Thanks Al..... Best..... Joe
Great job
When I lived in Ft Lauderdale I used to see the box he used on Frampton Comes Alive in a display at the Hard Rock Hotel in Hollywood, Fl. I would just stand there staring at it.
Our group in high School in 1976 bought one I still have it. Heil talk box.
Love Peter
VERY COOL!
Stevie Wonder had the first one and gave it to Jeff Beck when Beck was covering Wonder's composition "Very Superstitious". Later Joe Walsh acquired one which he used on the song Rocky Mountain Way. By then they were commercially available and Frampton began using one.
YESSS, also Sly & The Family Stone recorded Sex Machine FEATURING the Talk Box in 1969!
... fantastically brilliant! 🎼🎶
Thank you Mark.,.. Joe