MKBHD reviewed our Arc browser... (CEO reacts)
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- Опубликовано: 20 янв 2025
- This felt like a big moment, so we just had to put Josh Miller, CEO of the Browser Company, on camera.
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The Verge: "The Arc browser is the Chrome replacement I’ve been waiting for"
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I like this trend I think Nothing started, of CEOs being transparent and showing that they care about what the community is saying and how they get improve their products.
transparent literally
Yeah, surprising nobody thought about it, CEOs actually caring about community is excellent marketing.
Yeah carl pei from nothing also is transparent
It's just a PR trick
@@tbqhwyf nevertheless, I think it works.
This is so dope. We need more transparency like this. Imagine if Tim Cook or Craig Federighi reacted to tech reviews?
Imagine if they gave 2 shits about the product & not exclusively sales, I guess
You are talking about two guys that essentially are the representation of Apple (after Steve Jobs and Wozniak, of course) - the company whose one of the core values is privacy. In other words - absolutely never ever gonna happen :D
Yeah tim cook should see the trolls
I switched over to Arc last year and haven't looked back. And, to be honest, I didn't really think it would be a game-changer like it is. Love it and look forward to the weekly updates and behind-the-scenes videos.
HUGE PLUS ONE! Rooting for the team, excited for their windows launch. It’s prolly gonna go even more mainstream then
Is it available for linux machines?
I want to switch so bad. Ive been on what seems the longest wait list ever.
@@wil5367 I can send u an affiliate link if u want
@@ismaels3471 please I would love to try it for PC. I’ve been on a waitlist forever also
Arc spaces + key board shortcuts + the COMMAND BAR (Cmd + T) = Top 3 Game Changing Features
I actually look forward to opening up Arc and separate all my interests into separate spaces, dividing my tabs into its appropriate topic. My search experience definitely feels a lot smoother and more intuitive now🙌🏽
"Hope he doesn't have an android"
That's probably my biggest pet peeve for app developers. 75% of the market is Android and some will essentially just treat it like that market doesn't exist. Negative points for that one.
Yes he thinks USA is the world market
Because most of the money comes from iPhone users who have money
@@gewdvibes But Arc is free so that argument is baseless here
@@andrean40 Something about launching a product and not being able to use it kinda sucks. Probably the 90%+ of the Arc team uses iPhone
@@gewdvibes tell me you never ran business without telling me you never ran business
Just got into arc. Doing the reaction video was genius. Just makes everything feel real.
the funny thing is, even the way they describe Arc makes it sound really awesome, and they barely scratch the surface of what it's actually capable of
I am a fan of this recent 'trend', of smaller tech companies having this kind of transparency and 2-way dialogue with both their users, and the larger community surrounding their products and services. I know it's a lot to ask of companies, but I am personally a huge fan when companies are up front like this. Great work Browser Company. Love what you're attempting in the browser space, and I wish you all the best in your future endeavors. 🙌
Hey Josh and the rest of the Arc team. I absolutely love Arc and am using it everywhere I go. I understand that with your Swift-everywhere approach, Android might be hard, but not having at least some way to sync my tabs over to Android affects me daily. Global mobile market share says that Android is the dominant mobile platform, so not having any support there will really constrain your growth. And the tension here will grow exponentially when you put out the Windows release
expanding on this, if they release on Android it might allow them to do a ChromeOS release which would further grow the fanbase. Right on MKB's team, David was using a Chromebook and releasing on the Play Store opens up that option for him and others to make the full switch.
I think it would be a good opportunity for this company to do what even chrome is struggling to do that is to create a seamless transition between all the devices on which you use ARC. So for example some of the features such as the saved tabs, or spaces, can really be a gamechanger when it comes to communication between android and windows.
It's kind of experimental, but you can write apps for Android in Swift. They're also doing their Windows app in Swift!
Yeah you're right because I was going to download it on my PC but since it doesn't sound like its coming to android I didn't bother. I do have an older mac mini and an iphone 13 but they aren't my daily drivers. If they announce development for Android I'd consider trying it though.
100% agree!
You guys deserve the attention you're getting, I've fully switched to Arc the day I downloaded it because of how innovative it is in comparison to something that was in complete stagnation, the browser. Beautiful work.
frankly, as somebody who uses Arc for very similar ‘light user’ reasons to David, that awesome thing about Arc is that it feels like something that’s actually made for human beings lol.
Hard to pitch to a very tech-centered crowd on that alone though.
it's still v1 on windows😭
Loved this video, great from a marketing standpoint. Loved the openness and personal touch, excited to try the product 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
The easiness to set spaces for your personal, work, and side job is the main thing I told people the plus point of Arc. The other thing the immersiveness since Arc could make you feel like using a native app with the sidebar hidden without having to download the real app
Usually I switch back to Chrome after 1 month trying new browser, but it's a solid 4-5 months now with Arc. Can't wait for the mobile version.
Sad about his Android comment though :'(
Safari and Chrome both have what is called "Tabs Group" it's the same way as Arc spaces. I use it in Safari all the time, and it syncs across your iCloud devices.
isnt this available in Firefox already ? Pinned tabs, Containers, Tree tabs, etc.
@@stryyker9 There are some similar features, sure, but the implementation and execution are miles apart and everything is just done with a different mindset. For Chrome to have different profiles open simultaneously, I think you need multiple windows open. Not so with Arc.
@@BryceDriesenga Yeah but firefox has had this feature for literal years now. Doesn't seem like enough reason for another chromium browser to exist imo.
My 3 favorite features of Arc:
1. Pinned tabs have their own home/anchor URL that you can easily hop back to
2. PiP that automatically opens can you navigate away from a playing video
3. Walled-garden style profiles that you can isolate in separate spaces. There is already so much power in organization with the spaces concept, and having separate profiles increases that by an order of magnitude.
Can you please send me a invite for my windows computer
I usually say this: It let you create different spaces with different accounts and histories, one for my company, one for my podcast and one for my daily use and I don't need to log in and log out from each account plus, the attention of small details is insane.
But if I have to be honest I don't think that Arc solves the problem of the tabs. I still have a lot of tabs opened and the vertical layout does not help me either, I'd like to have small previews instead favicons and titles that most of the time don't help me to understand if I need that opened tab anymore
Ciao Riccardo!! Its so cool to see you here, how are you?
I agree. I would have a bunch of tabs and some folders lying around my pinned section for my projects, and having a preview mode would be great for reference
Spaces sound like containers extension for Firefox...
I only use my browser for personal use 99.9% of the time, so that feature isn't a selling point for me. Any other reasons this would be a good browser for someone who doesn't need an easy way to switch between work and personal use.
@@theboxofdemons Picture in picture from youtube everytime I change tab or the easel feature that let you save website on a canvas and let you add notes on it.
Back in 2022, the Verge touted Arc as the Chrome replacement we’ve been looking for and described it as ‘much more opinionated and much more complicated than your average browser.’ Indeed, it is not only much more complicated for the user but clearly too complicated for the developers who couldn’t readily port it to Windows, Linux, iOS, and Android. And bizarrely, Arc existed only in the Apple world, where 99% of its user base is adverse to complexity. To quote Steve Jobs, “Simple can be harder than complex: You have to work hard to get your thinking clean to make it simple.” Arc, on the other hand, embraced complexity and tried to convince users to put their noses to the grindstone to discover the Arc way. Now that Arc has pulled their head out of there 🫏 , it’s probably too late.
I’m not joshing here; I’m moving to Arc due to this video. The CEO’s reactions are so genuine feeling and the fact it’s endorsed by MKBHD and his team without sponsorship is just icing on the cake.
Excited to be using Arc!
@LoveStrangeDr already got access; student email address. 😜
I want to try it, but I don't use anything Apple, and it seems like that's all they'll support for a while unfortunately. Until they come to both Windows and Android, I'll have to stick to Firefox. I really hope they do because there are so many features in Arc that seem awesome to be able to have, especially as a web developer.
This video is what introduced me to the browser, and WOW. I'd pay for this. Seems crazy I got it for free. It's what ChromeOS should have been.
@@tbuk8350they’re already on windows
yo quit joshin bro
Have just bought a new Macbook yesterday (my 1st Apple product) and can now finally use this browser and I'm loving it so far
Just watched this video and instantly joined for the waitlist. I love how enthusiastic was this . I can definitely feel the excitement and love for what you do even from the screen. I am currently getting trained on CS, i hope some day our paths gets crossed.
Found Arc through the MKBHD video and now I'm on the waiting list, looking forward to it!
I came over from mkbhd’s podcast and wanted to see your reaction and at the same time add insights to what arc is. At this time I mainly have my daily tasks in my iPad Pro and would love to see or even beta test the Arc Browser for iPadOS. I have a windows laptop too but since the iPad Pro is more portable I put most of my tasks here instead of my laptop. Looking forward to trying this out!
A browser must be compatible in every os Linux, Windows . There are so many tech enthusiastics who prefer Linux!
I have switched over entirely to Arc and love it... Spaces and easels are just amazing. Sad that, as an adroid users, I won't get my mobile synch anytime soon but easy enough work arounds exist.
Like what? Android user too
I’ve never used it and i am not fully sure of how it even works . Although , one thing i have to say is that i really like it when both the CEO and the company are both that open with their consumers, it makes it more human and i think there’s a big lack of that in many companies. I’ve watched this video of MKBHD and i hope this brings even more light and recognition on "the browser company". Can’t wait for it to launch on windows so i can try it as-well !
Keep up with the good work! Can't wait for the mobile, windows and linux versions!!!
Arc is such a magical browser, and I really hope it becomes more widespread and continues to add incredible features! :D
I really hope you end up porting it to Linux and Android. It seems to me that, even with just Windows, porting Arc to a different language and toolkit (maybe Kotlin and QT like many apps or GTK like most browsers) would be easier than porting Swift to Windows in an actually stable way, and that would also allow for a much easier transition to other platforms. Vertical tabs in browsers like Firefox are really nice, but Arc seems to add some really nice extra features.
why would any Linux users who first and foremost are open source focused would use proprietary browser?
@@eruno_ Because not all Linux users are resistant to using proprietary software. For examples of groups of Linux users that might want to use it, look at Steam Deck users and Chrome OS users. Personally, my reasons for using Linux are complicated and hard to explain, but they're related to things like tiling window managers and choice between desktop environments, not it being open source.
@@linuxsbc
I understand and mostly overgeneralised, but I think the fact still remains that majority of Linux users are more into privacy, open source than any other user group. So while the Arc on Linux may in fact attract some users I don't think it would be worth for them just looking at potential user base and work required.
@@eruno_I think the main use would be for programmers who use multiple OSs
@@corvacopia most programmer i know that run multiple os run them through virtualization, WSL, or via cloud remotely. Main driver are either mac/windows.
I’m currently using Vivaldi and after watching this I started watching other videos from the arc channel. It looks incredible. Would love to give arc a try! Just joined the waitlist 😄
Why don't you make a version for linux ???
arc is beta soo it may not work for linux for now
I'm interested. Oddly I found this before the Waveform clip/show segment.
I do think you should know that he uses both iPhone and Android, together, daily. So the lack of cross platform use will be a deal breaker.
For me, I have a Mac, which I use periodically, a Windows laptop and an Android phone as my dailies. I'm with Marques on the requirement for cross platform. While I know Chrome is heavy, I'm invested in Google's ecosystem and love that I can just pick up from wherever I left off on any device.
Get this and I'm in.
I can't process tabs in sidebar.
I stopped using Arc mid last year because I don't know to setup Profiles or it is not available at the time. But when I heard that Profile is now available and can be tied to a Space. The ease of switching profiles without the need of new windows is a game-changer for me.
Also, I should say that I signed up after watching their review of Arc and I had never heard of it until then. I am looking forward to being able to test it out. I'm constantly switching between Chrome, Firefox and Safari, mainly due to performance issues and I've been getting some major lagging in Chrome lately when on Zoom calls. I'll be curious to see how Arc stacks up to the others, performance-wise.
You got attention (thanks to marques) and I checked your product. I switched back to my previous browser within a day, because a browser has to be cross platform (I’ve got desktop running Linux too and I’ll not sit deliberately in front of my mac every time). You’re missing out on a big opportunity to gain customers (personally I won’t try it again because I’m just lazy). However I wish you guys success because this space needs shakeup!
MBKHD confirmed on this week's episode that he uses it, as he mentioned that you could have it in a vertical view. Keep it up and will try this
I hope Arc Browser really comes to Windows soon, been on the waitlist, really excited to use it 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I need this for pc asap
I am glad Arc got this coverage, because for what I saw it's a really power user take on the browsing experience. Can't wait to try it out on Windows when it comes out.
But since I am pretty locked into the new Bing and Edge AI features right now, I don't know if I will be actually willing to lose those in order to switch to Arc though. And yes... that new Edge browser is a real game changer for search.
Great Video... It was great to see your thought process as a CEO when receiving what i thought was a well "Reviewed" feedback. Especially the part were you are torn between being happy your product is being fully understood or abit challenging although in a positive way because you built something new
I love Arc my few reservations are that sometimes the page does not display correctly even thought I thought it was Chromium under the hood there must be some differences sometimes. But a particular aspect I struggle with is the lack of a page loading bar in dev mode and not being able to refresh the page without using the keyboard shortcut apparently?
Otherwise love the fact spaces can be set (an improvement to this would be to actually separate the signed in sessions between spaces so that we can log into different accounts) and another feature is clearing tabs by itself, really needed.
A really good nice to have that I use a lot is side by side views.
Thanks for the hard work you've been putting on it 🙏
Can you please send me a invite for my windows computer
I’ll be honest. Yes, I tried it on my iPhone and iPad. My main concern was safety. In the beginning, I noticed that there were false answers being given. I took it as growing pains. Today, I use it continuously. It’s effortless and it answers all questions directly with the option of going deeper into your query. A job well done.
arc browser looks like a good amalgamation of a lot of firefox productivity plugins, but since the company does really care about linux or android, it's a big pass for me.
Okay I'm sorry for the inconvenience, I am not a native English speaker, what do you mean by 'big pass', I mean do you like it or not... Because in smash or pass you say smash when you like something and you say pass when you don't like something...
I joined the waitlist and got arc browser on my macbook pro but when i tried to find it for my pc...i found out its for mac only...i dont understand why such discrimination. Ill never use this browser again.
Is there a linux version?
Looking forward to a windows release. You have created something that looks like the first browser I am excited about, ever. That cannot have been easy. Well done!
"Hope you don't have an Android" 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
No mention of Linux. Not interested.
Womp womp
That’s because Arc only runs on Apple devices (Mac and iPhone). They built on Chromium but they used Swift
His daily drive is an Android... So you should make one
@@Boyinthecircle i got the beta on android lol
I get the vibe you paid “this guy” to bring up your browser… I could be wrong, hope I am
I'm part of the 70% of people who have Android, so I guess I'm not using it then.
Ok
To answer your question: Marques uses a Google Pixel.
I smell Michel Scott 👀
I’ll be switching over to it on my MacBook because I’ve started a business doing ITaaS and SaaS for multiple other companies. The spaces that allow different logins and whatnot for each space is a game changer. Instead of multiple logins on my laptop I can have this browser handle the accounts. Perfect. Thank you. Please bring it to android. MacOS and Android are a better combo than you realize.
I really hope you guys make an android version next to the ios, because only supporting ios is a bit of a bummer. Loving what this browser can do so far!
This review is the reason I switched over to Arc. Made me more productive as a creative. Thank you!
CEO: "Hope he doesn't use an Android phone"
Every State on the planet not in America: 😒
No its not@LeoArronChester
This podcast was what introduced me to Arc in the first place, and I can confidently say that I dont want to ever use any other browser.
Hey, just want to let you know that I've been waiting on this for 3 (maybe 4) months now; I use a Windows 2-in-1 (x360 foldable) laptop and your UI and feature set will be perfect for my workflow.
I'm also glad to hear that a mobile version is on its way (and I hope it's going to be a simultaneous iOS and Android drop this time).
Keep up the good work 🙌🏽🫶🏽
Also, yeah, David Imel is such a likeable passionate fellow, I've been a fan of his channel for half a year now and I love the attention he gives to reviews with quality over quantity
So glad this showed up for me today! Switching over literally right now this wasn't even something I knew I needed until I saw it!
This browser looks really cool! It's a shame it's not coming to Linux or Android (as those are the main operating systems I use), and the Windows release is far out. All of the features seem really cool, I just don't own any, and will never own any Apple products (I like that Linux and Android are more open, and I need powerful graphics hardware for my work, which Apple doesn't offer).
I'll keeo following this project, but I'm afraid if it doesn't come to Android or Linux, I'm going to have to keep using Firefox.
will you guys make one for linux, i'd love to try that out !
So I guess Android app is not happening any time soon from his comment 😢
I actually heard about Arc from the MKBHD podcast and I’m trying it now. I got excited for your reaction, congratulations for the great job your doing!!!
Why not an android app?
bc android sucks. I am an android user.
Thanks for sharing the behind the bit of backstory at the end. Please, make a Linux version! 🙏🏼
4:40 "Hope he doesn't use an Android phone." Guess I can stop considering this browser then. If you're not going to support the most popular OS on the planet, then I have no use for your product.
I switched to Arc Browser recently and it is amazing! ARC DELIVERS!!!! In the welcome email they did say there goal was to make internet a magical place like we felt in childhood. They've done it. With that they have brought so many features to stop tab overload and this rough mechanical feeling of browsing internet. And you have had the decency and thought to include us, the very first users as a part of developers in ARC journey. Thank You and more power to you guys. Don't let tech giants eat and gulp you.
When your customers are passionate about promoting your product, you know that's a great product
I'd love to see one for the linux community, probably packaged as a Flatpak
Make a linux version pls!!!
Although I love the functionality of Arc so far, there are some issues I have with it:
1. Randomly the options to close or minimize the browser will disappear(Those red, green, yellow buttons in upper left section of any application), so I'll have to Force Quit the application and then open it open it again. (Happens a few times a week)
2. I cannot sync my Arc browser tabs, profiles, or passwords between different laptops
3. I guess number 3 would be that there's no mobile app out yet (and since I have an Android, it seems I'll have to wait longer as usual)
Alexandra gets it 💚
This video was enough to make me sign up for the waiting list. Well done on coming up with something that looks genuinely innovative in a pretty mature and saturated space.
This was SO fun, and love the ownership over "if they can't explain it, and they are excited about it, it means we built something special". That is 100% me this past weekend when trying to convince another skeptical friend to try Arc 😆
This edit was also fantastic 🙌 appreciate your team making such fun content and congrats on the MKBHD podcast mention-Marques will for sure be using Arc 6 months from now. It'll be so fun too, to hear a follow-up on this video from them 🔥
5:31 I clicked on the most-watched part of the video, thinking there was going to be a huge surprise announcement... 🤣
Saying "hope he doesn't use an android phone" is the worst thing I have ever heard a business owner say.
Used Arc for a bit. I wish I could separate the bookmarks and tabs being the same thing in a particular space. Also don't like how toggling dev tools (if dev tools is already open but not focused) closes dev tools instead of refocuses it. That second one was the deal breaker for me.
Seeing the proudness and happiness in your eyes is great. I will try arc now!
here 1 year later... loving this browser on mac, some thing could be do better but its cool, keep going guys
Arc is freaking awesome! I really love it! It makes me feel like that first year or 2 of chrome before it got bloated and stupid. I hope that Arc just keeps getting better and better.
The feature set is awesome, and the fact that it has frequent improvements is amazing. Bugs and features get fixed and added pretty dang quick. As far as features I use, I love the spaces feature, and the air traffic control to go with it. They really streamline browsing when I am working. My work and personal hardly ever blend.
This video was 5 months ago and still no Windows Version? The most used desktop Operating System... Nor Android. Not even a beta?
and probably never on linux...
@@Yoshi-vq3og shouldn't be that hard to port the macOS to a portable binary.
When would be released on Windows... Right now I'm using Edge because I have the vertical tabs and the split screen.
I'm trying out Arc for myself because of this podcast and so far I'm loving it!
First time hearing about you guys. This is great, will def be using Arc from now on and will be rooting for y'all
Besides the fact that this browser looks amazing, excellent choice of music in the background from Lakey Inspired!!! That sold me on the browser itself!!!
I am a windows/ Android User, so I have been on the waiting list for about a year now, not sure if they will ever launch for non-apple users, but to Marques point, Microsoft Edge has been incorporating a lot of Arc features into Edge like verticle tabs, grouping tabs, pin tabs, collections, the list goes on. Edge has been rolling out update with quite a lot of frequency, and unlike Chrome, edge is not a resource hungry monster. Arc needs to hurry up.
Just downloaded Arc and first impressions, so far so good. It is unique in its approach. A bit of fresh air from all the current browsers that just look the same old same old and feel old!!
Mention on the website next to the download button that you need an account to use it.. so that others like me don't waste their time downloading and installing and uninstalling it..
Keep doing what you guys are going. Rooting for the Browser Company!
Excited to try the windows version and try the mobile version. The concept is a fresh approach to the browser market.
as a main windows/android user , i feel disappointed a lot
I switched to Arc 2-3 weeks ago after accidentally seeing it on some Twitch stream. It ticks lots pf boxes for me. But what I really miss is a different logo. The “cartoonish” one currently doesn’t seem to represent what Arc is. And for a visual person as me it actually matters, and makes me sometimes bit sad. At some point I’ll try to change the icon by mysef.
I'm on the waiting list and can't wait. You have cracked the code on browsers. Thank you I struggle with Safari all day and constantly thinking there is a better way of doing this. Seeing you and hearing more about the product makes me want it now.
Get the Windows version out... You know, that OS with over 70% of the market share.
I have a MacBook Pro and use Arc full time but I have an Android phone. Really hope you guys open your browser up to more devices!!! Absolutely love Arc!
I have been using Arc from day one. Never looked back but it still struggle to explain why. That is so interesting.
I am on the waiting list to gain access and look forward to seeing some of these features /unique elements and seeing where the value add is. What the CEO basically said they need a robust “elevator pitch” on each function. If someone from the company see’s this, PM me and would love to help in the change/ comma space as I see this as a market disruptor and can make real inroads within some sectors of industry and not just the general user.
I was sold on the idea of arc but not a android app is a huge bummer . It's really important for me that my browser is consistent throughout my devices . No arc for me it seems
My main browser is Edge. And this seems like a better version of their side-bar. I really like this.
Yes. I LOVE Edge. It is SUCH a good browser.
After watching the podcast, i downloaded it, and i got to say it takes a little time to get used to it but it's really cool.
I'm a premed student and my tabs are a nightmare and so are my downloads. I constantly have to read through research papers, emails, etc. and I hope that switching over to arc works well for me!
Here from the MKBHD podcast, and I can't wait to try this browser when it releases on Windows!