Why Everyone Is OBSESSED With Arc Browser

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  • Опубликовано: 3 ноя 2023
  • Arc Browser has conquered the precious “default browser” setting of thousands of people in the tech scene. Why? In this video I am breaking down Arc browser, its psychology and design that are making people ditch chrome and the genius strategy behind @TheBrowserCompany (the startup building Arc).
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  • @daelra
    @daelra 6 месяцев назад +1036

    I must work in a totally different tech industry. This is the first time I've heard of Arc. There's a lot of features here that remind me of Edge to be honest.

    • @pettycrimesandmisdemeanors
      @pettycrimesandmisdemeanors 6 месяцев назад +134

      Well you see it's vewy exclusive club for vewy exclusive nerds. Please don't shove me back into the locker where I rightfully belong

    • @3ace846
      @3ace846 5 месяцев назад +50

      the moment split screen came up, i also thought of edge lol

    • @kipchickensout
      @kipchickensout 5 месяцев назад +16

      I've only heard of arc when I researched different kinds of browsers tbh

    • @mycelia_ow
      @mycelia_ow 5 месяцев назад +25

      @@pettycrimesandmisdemeanors So it's just like Arch Linux. I guess it's meta to use Arc in Arch, super nerds.

    • @Gigusx
      @Gigusx 5 месяцев назад +12

      @@mycelia_ow actually they're (by their own admission) very far away from releasing Arc on Linux :D

  • @altrogeruvah
    @altrogeruvah 4 месяца назад +618

    Artificial scarcity as a marketing strategy is as ancient as water, definitely not a secret. Experiencing FOMO over a web browser is goofy as all hell though.

    • @The8merp
      @The8merp 4 месяца назад +17

      Google tried that tactic with it's facebook like social network and look how that went lol

    • @mykolaputko
      @mykolaputko 4 месяца назад +23

      As a person who uses Arc, I promote it for free because it simply works better than any other software 🙂

    • @joekickass8943
      @joekickass8943 4 месяца назад

      In fairness, Google is cursed...@@The8merp

    • @classicmax1
      @classicmax1 3 месяца назад +26

      @@mykolaputko "works better than any other software" is a ridiculous thing to say about any software.

    • @ajtatosmano2
      @ajtatosmano2 3 месяца назад +11

      @@classicmax1 no it's not. but in this case it's ridiculous.

  • @hisham_hm
    @hisham_hm 5 месяцев назад +149

    Artificial scarcity is a dark pattern.

  • @IveNeverStoodUp
    @IveNeverStoodUp 3 месяца назад +28

    is this an ad?

  • @lIlIllIlIllIlllIllIIIIIIIIIlII
    @lIlIllIlIllIlllIllIIIIIIIIIlII 5 месяцев назад +44

    Absolutely no one: arc
    RUclipsrs: wHy EvErYoNe UsEs ArC

  • @m.guedes
    @m.guedes 6 месяцев назад +195

    This video is more a pitch to BCNY than something that informs me about the psychology of the product. Good to know about it, Arc is in my radar now, but the video does nothing to explain to me why it has been considered better.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 6 месяцев назад +40

      the different GUI is why it is "considered better". My man it's just a web browser, it won't download more RAM for your PC or walk the dog for you

    • @enricotartarotti
      @enricotartarotti  6 месяцев назад +29

      It is both in a way. The key takeaway of the psychology of arc is how they reinvented the basics of how a browser work instead of building on top of industry-standard foundations and that's the killer part (plus all the growth stuff like the invite system). For sure I also peppered in some suggestions and things I wish they improve, they are very active on socials and communities so I definitely do hope they see this video! Anyways, thanks for the constructive feedback 🖖🏻

    • @Harshsomad
      @Harshsomad 6 месяцев назад

      @@marcogenovesi8570 you're weird , get help

    • @duvipearson6251
      @duvipearson6251 5 месяцев назад

      LMFAO@@marcogenovesi8570

    • @nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384
      @nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384 5 месяцев назад +15

      well only script kiddies and designers are using arc... actual developers still use firefox...

  • @HowPortal
    @HowPortal 6 месяцев назад +14

    Ads getting creative. you dont even know you are watching a ad.

  • @makiskouloumparitsis9203
    @makiskouloumparitsis9203 6 месяцев назад +97

    Never heard of this browser ever before

  • @mack.attack
    @mack.attack 3 месяца назад +62

    Seems like an undisclosed advertisement to me. Vivaldi has had these features for years.

    • @punintendedd
      @punintendedd 2 месяца назад +2

      I use vivaldi on windows and it does most of what I like from arc, but it's a lot less clean. It still occupies far too much vertical real estate unless there are some settings I have not yet found.

    • @Charlie-xh2nf
      @Charlie-xh2nf 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@punintendeddhide the address bar? I love how much space you can get in vivaldi

    • @me.maeself
      @me.maeself Месяц назад

      @@punintendedd i customize vivaldi until the browser just consist of strip of tab icon at the left and the address bar that's so small. All the website i use looks like native app in PC now.

    • @me.maeself
      @me.maeself Месяц назад

      good marketing over the ideas that exist for years.

    • @innerbloomset
      @innerbloomset 29 дней назад

      Exactly. And you can easily customize Vivaldi even more...

  • @social.elenakrittik
    @social.elenakrittik 3 месяца назад +89

    "... everyone is obsessed" i would like to hear who is that "everyone" you're referring to.

    • @gravity00x
      @gravity00x 3 месяца назад +13

      nobody.

    • @fuqis
      @fuqis Месяц назад +1

      nobody 😂😂 the discord is dead

    • @YoghurtEquity
      @YoghurtEquity 4 дня назад

      Upmarket Mac users, darling.
      If y'all were in these circles you'd also feel "everyone" was using it.

  • @grizeldiSLO
    @grizeldiSLO 6 месяцев назад +118

    Feels like a product the mac using hipsters would love, but everyone else would just say "huh, neat." and go back to whatever they were using before.

    • @deletedchanneI
      @deletedchanneI 6 месяцев назад +3

      migration curve is really hard

    • @zacanger
      @zacanger 5 месяцев назад +20

      Mac hipsters don't love it either. It's just pointless random widgets stuck on top of Chrome stealing data, what's the point?

    • @deletedchanneI
      @deletedchanneI 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@zacanger btw, vertical tabs are so great in arc)

    • @The8merp
      @The8merp 4 месяца назад

      @deletechannel vertical tabs exist in every other browser either directly like in Vivaldi or as a plugin like Tree Tabs in FireFox, it's a ancient concept

    • @people287
      @people287 4 месяца назад +6

      @@zacanger The vertical tabs are great (imo), and the workplace integration is actually a gamechanger for me. Being able to toggle between personal/work1/work2 profiles without having to fumble through a bunch of different windows as with Chrome got me instantly hooked.

  • @legalize.brokkoli
    @legalize.brokkoli 6 месяцев назад +24

    No Windows version, no Linux version, no Android version; but everyone is obsessed with the Arc Browser. Bubble up, folks.

    • @RationalBeing-rh1zf
      @RationalBeing-rh1zf Месяц назад

      They also email download link, I mean if it's that private why it wants my email address?

    • @ToxiEpic
      @ToxiEpic Месяц назад +2

      there is a windows version of arc
      and I'm using it rn.

    • @legalize.brokkoli
      @legalize.brokkoli Месяц назад

      @@ToxiEpic 5 months ago, when i wrote the comment above, there was no windows version. The one in existence right now is still in beta.
      But you knew that, right.

  • @darthvader2980
    @darthvader2980 5 месяцев назад +17

    I tried, and didn't like it. The non negotiable placement of tabs on the left side of the screen alone turned me off. I use Vivaldi now, and like it much better.

  • @juann268
    @juann268 3 месяца назад +75

    Imagine ditching Brave for a browser that requires you to create an account just to open it, and that "archives" everything instead of closing or deleting it, and which will definitely "never sell your data" in the future.

    • @kodaxmax
      @kodaxmax 3 месяца назад +9

      It sounds ridiculous, but this has already become the norm for so many things. Even your printer probably requires a login and companion app etc.. It's insane.

    • @svgPhoenix
      @svgPhoenix 3 месяца назад +5

      ​@kodaxmax which is why I bought a cheapish laserjet from Canon. Plug in to power, sign in to wifi, done. It's made for an office but at least I'm not paying with my soul

    • @SkyrozzB
      @SkyrozzB 3 месяца назад +2

      I wouldnt necessarily say that brave is a better option knowing what they have done in the past. idk if theres any browser I trust these days

    • @Gaxi2
      @Gaxi2 2 месяца назад

      ​@@SkyrozzB
      What have they done so bad??

    • @SkyrozzB
      @SkyrozzB 2 месяца назад

      @@Gaxi2 for example the affiliate link "scandal" they had some time ago. Also if I remember correclty, braves ceo had to leave mozilla because of his views and I believe he made some comments about covid as well. Brave is by no means a bad browser because of that stuff imo but it's not really better than every other browser either (except maybe chrome)

  • @warpspeedscp
    @warpspeedscp 4 месяца назад +66

    Yeah I uninstalled when I was presented with a mandatory login screen.

    • @irtizababar2203
      @irtizababar2203 2 месяца назад +1

      What's the logic in this, you do know the site you are on also requires a login, atleast to be able to use the basic features?

    • @warpspeedscp
      @warpspeedscp 2 месяца назад

      @@irtizababar2203 sure, but why should a browser need that info right off the bat? I havent seen even a single browser that requires one to log in mandatorily before they are even allowed to use it. So why should I not hold arc to that standard?

    • @erik3018
      @erik3018 2 месяца назад

      @@irtizababar2203RUclips is supposed to remember my subs/watch later/history and let me post comments. Arc is supposed to let me browse the web so what do I need an account for?

    • @esachs3
      @esachs3 2 месяца назад +3

      the device you are watching this on requires a sign in

    • @warpspeedscp
      @warpspeedscp 2 месяца назад +4

      @@esachs3 nonit doesnt

  • @Stevie2049
    @Stevie2049 5 месяцев назад +76

    Is this an ad? I work in tech and I’ve never heard of this in my life.

    • @Baban443
      @Baban443 3 месяца назад +8

      Same

    • @Yuki-HoYo
      @Yuki-HoYo 20 дней назад +4

      It’s famous in the Mac community

    • @danilol9417
      @danilol9417 13 дней назад +1

      yes this video is sponsored

  • @MrVidification
    @MrVidification 6 месяцев назад +63

    Thousands of videos such as this one and key developers having the right contacts for magazine and media coverage might be the key to success 🤩 If I must have space I'll just hit F11 for full screen. I keep things basic. The extra features have been around for some time via extensions in other browsers. Vertical bookmarks which most browsers can do may be enough for some too to lessen the space used at the top of a screen. More features incorporated by default is a nice idea, but I think in the long run the browser will be analysed most in relation to security.

    • @NKCubed
      @NKCubed 4 месяца назад +2

      I tried to turn firefox into arc and it was an aweful experience

    • @Unicarn5279
      @Unicarn5279 3 месяца назад

      You can just use a vertical monitor for more vertical reading space. Vertical bookmarks won't work well with a 9:16 aspect ratio. It's a neat feature, but it's definitely not an attractive one for me since I use a vertical monitor.

    • @NKCubed
      @NKCubed 3 месяца назад

      @@Unicarn5279 doesn't that make the problem even worse for horozontal tabs? plus there's a keyboard shortcut for hiding/showing the vertical tabs, I feel like they'd work even better with a vertical aspect ratio?

    • @NKCubed
      @NKCubed 3 месяца назад +1

      (vertical tabs aren't about getting more vertical space, they're about being able to read more tabs at once instead of having to have another scroll bar at the top of your browser)

    • @Unicarn5279
      @Unicarn5279 2 месяца назад

      @@NKCubed No, because then whatever page I am on is obstructed, since most modern web pages are designed for 1080x1920 when you switch to portrait mode. I removed the taskbar from my vertical monitor (I use a vertical taskbar) to avoid this issue, and this browser would re-introduce it.
      Using Firefox, I have no issues with reading my tabs until I have about 20 tabs open, but once I am at that point I just use the scroll wheel to scroll through them.

  • @ltfringr
    @ltfringr 3 месяца назад +109

    5:44 the fact that you didn't even mention Linux says a lot about who this project is actually for

    • @trejohnson7677
      @trejohnson7677 3 месяца назад +10

      ? the majority share of the market?

    • @ltfringr
      @ltfringr 3 месяца назад +19

      @@trejohnson7677 ...yup. The majority of society that has never even given a second thought to who controls our lives.

    • @lintee_12
      @lintee_12 3 месяца назад +17

      i dont get your point... the company doesnt have a linux version like 90% of all software compaines... like genuinley what is your point? it seems like youre just trying to make an excuse to say you use linux.

    • @ibnu7942
      @ibnu7942 3 месяца назад +15

      firefox is good enough we don't need this "better" browser shenanigans

    • @lan_dev
      @lan_dev 3 месяца назад

      FVCK Linux bro.

  • @Ludix147
    @Ludix147 6 месяцев назад +41

    You missed one thing, the Browser Company is not 100% based in NY, they're very remote aswell

  • @Xtrems
    @Xtrems 4 месяца назад +66

    This browser promotes the kind of web that stands in direct opposition to all of my beliefs of what the web should be.

    • @Action2me
      @Action2me 3 месяца назад +8

      And what are those beliefs?

    • @Xtrems
      @Xtrems 3 месяца назад

      That the web should consist of many small web pages, primarily built with pure html/css, and have as little web apps as possible, and zero corporate monoliths akin to facebook, twitter, google etc. @@Action2me

    • @qwoolrat
      @qwoolrat 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Action2me
      arc promotes:
      - corporate web
      - data-hogging (need an account to use the browser, tabs are archived not closed)
      - web apps
      - a closed source ecosystem
      - growth over profits
      - artificial scarcity
      - putting ai unnecessary places???
      last 3 are especially suspicious
      it's made to quickly become an industry standard and eventually make profit with lower expectations, usually by selling data
      pls beware of any AI startup with multi-million yearly losses

    • @nyetu
      @nyetu 3 месяца назад +4

      @@Action2me everything that is not releated to this 'browser' arc

    • @kreatur_
      @kreatur_ 3 месяца назад

      Keep using Internet Explorer then you oldhead

  • @sidgillespie5879
    @sidgillespie5879 3 месяца назад +6

    It's proprietary. And you said it's not selling data. If the piece of software is not open source, you cannot know if the thing sells you data. You must know that, especially if you're a tech channel!

  • @realEchoz
    @realEchoz 3 месяца назад +37

    a proprietary browser? what tech industry is this? the cell phone review industry?

    • @siliconhawk9293
      @siliconhawk9293 3 месяца назад +7

      exactly. if i see a proprietary browser i look the other way. no way in hell i am using that. fuk even chromium is open-source. but firefox all the way

    • @realEchoz
      @realEchoz 3 месяца назад

      @@siliconhawk9293100%

    • @busimo
      @busimo 3 месяца назад

      @@siliconhawk9293 I absolutely hate the vertical tabs but Arc has a few features that are amazing

  • @swarupbhc
    @swarupbhc 3 месяца назад +12

    I'm happy with my old good friend Firefox, it's best for me.

  • @shubhamjadhav_7
    @shubhamjadhav_7 3 месяца назад +4

    I still use Mozilla Firefox

  • @DipJyotiDeka
    @DipJyotiDeka 3 месяца назад +2

    Artificial scarcity is fine for a hardware product, where scaling is difficult. For a software product, it makes no sense.
    Not that I would ever touch a browser without extension support.

  • @velvetvideo
    @velvetvideo 5 месяцев назад +8

    I use Vivaldi and Firefox. No intention of leaving any time soon.

  • @joshd108
    @joshd108 5 месяцев назад +20

    Aren’t most browsers free? Opera, chrome, Firefox, edge, safari?

    • @HaseebHeaven
      @HaseebHeaven 4 месяца назад +2

      But they sell data aswell

    • @cherubin7th
      @cherubin7th 3 месяца назад +1

      @@HaseebHeaven Arc is closed source, so they probably sell your data too. If you don't want that use degoogled chromium or Firefox.

    • @DipJyotiDeka
      @DipJyotiDeka 3 месяца назад +5

      @@HaseebHeaven Pretty sure google can track you no matter which browser you switch to.

    • @DePhoegonIsle
      @DePhoegonIsle 3 месяца назад

      @@HaseebHeaven Ya, but that's the open secret, for however you feel about it. That said though, would you trust a company pushing a product where you spend most your time with, that has no viable way of making money?

  • @PragandSens
    @PragandSens 3 месяца назад +4

    average mac/iphone user brain

  • @BosonCollider
    @BosonCollider 4 месяца назад +5

    No linux version means it is basically doomed if they want to break into the tech industry

  • @gullible119
    @gullible119 3 месяца назад +3

    Arc is the biggest marketing gimmick ever.

  • @Omidion
    @Omidion 4 месяца назад +5

    "Product Manager in tech", so were you always an manager (like finished a type of management college) or did you "rise" from a Developer position into a Product Manager ?

  • @raphaelcardoso7927
    @raphaelcardoso7927 3 месяца назад +4

    can't wait for the open source community to learn all the lessons from it and implement a FOSS alternative xD

    • @gravity00x
      @gravity00x 3 месяца назад +1

      already partly available "tree-style-tabs"

    • @maryhadid
      @maryhadid 2 месяца назад

      @@gravity00xsidebery too!

  • @t3chnicolor
    @t3chnicolor 6 месяцев назад +88

    My tech friend loves it, so I tried it, but I hate vertical tabs. I just can’t get used to them. Also, no arc for windows…I switch platforms multiple times a day. So it was back to Firefox for me.

    • @BendyLemmy
      @BendyLemmy 6 месяцев назад +13

      Tried vertical tabs years ago in Firefox, again with Vivaldi, sticking with Firefox now without the vertical tabs.

    • @ringguy2420
      @ringguy2420 5 месяцев назад

      you must be very stupid to hate vertical tabs

    • @tamalchakraborty5346
      @tamalchakraborty5346 5 месяцев назад +3

      Same here. I wanted to love arc and be the cool guy around. But the performance was just horrible. The fans would spin up most of the time and it was resource hungry. Sticking to Firefox.

    • @DaveEtchells
      @DaveEtchells 4 месяца назад

      @@tamalchakraborty5346Ah, important to know that it’s a resource pig. I’ve been using Chrome even though I hate Google and having all my data hoovered up, but use a variety of plugins that I haven’t found on other browsers; it’s plugin ecosystem is huge. That said, it’s also a resource pig and I sometimes have to hunt down pages that are eating loads of CPU.
      I wish that plug-ins could be universal somehow.

    • @tubester358
      @tubester358 4 месяца назад +3

      I use several browsers, switching from time to time. Vertical tabs is one of the most powerful productivity features IMO and pretty indispensable. Available on Edge and Vivaldi by default. It's great if you always use the browser maximized or full screen. Edge displays them better than Vivaldi IMO.
      It makes sense coz most sites limit the content of the page to specific widths and the sides of the page remain empty when the window is wide, vert tabs let the content stretch up higher. Responsive sites also handle making the sides narrower better than making the window shorter.
      Together with a sidebar to pin webapps most browsers can function close to Arc already. I just like the idea of diff work spaces built-in & a more customizable sidebar

  • @oryanol
    @oryanol 6 месяцев назад +16

    "Everyone?" I never heard about it, and no one talks about it in the tech community 🤷🏿‍♂. Anyway, this browser is super similar to Microsoft EDGE.

  • @_sayandas
    @_sayandas 5 месяцев назад +17

    The vertical tab thing is cool but it takes WAY more space than a single top bar. So small window size for main content.

    • @detective2221
      @detective2221 5 месяцев назад +1

      I cant get used to vertical tabs

    • @amr1t_
      @amr1t_ 3 месяца назад

      I think it only works well on pretty high resolution monitors tbh. It feels great on my macbook pro screen but using arc on an external 1080 monitor the sidebar feels huge

    • @notbad8170
      @notbad8170 11 дней назад

      Vertical space is much more valuable that horizontal space, so I like them

  • @dave7244
    @dave7244 3 месяца назад +9

    A lot of these features have been in other browsers at one point in time e.g. Opera did the vertical splits about 20 years ago.

    • @Asidders
      @Asidders 3 месяца назад +4

      Most of that stuff Opera did is in Vivaldi now.

  • @oglothenerd
    @oglothenerd 3 месяца назад +4

    It is a proprietary web browser, and it is free. There is no way they aren't taking some sort of user data they can sell!

    • @danilol9417
      @danilol9417 13 дней назад +1

      selling users data is nothing new in the tech industry

    • @oglothenerd
      @oglothenerd 13 дней назад +1

      @@danilol9417 Yeah, and it bothers me to no end.

  • @twtwtwtw
    @twtwtwtw 3 месяца назад +5

    I remember doing the vertical tab bar on the side in opera years ago and vivaldi can give you great control over the layout, placement, organization of your tabs and views too.

    • @gravity00x
      @gravity00x 3 месяца назад +2

      i was confused, like, vivaldi did this for almost a decade now and nobody cared?!??

  • @thatmoooocow
    @thatmoooocow 3 месяца назад +3

    Below this video youtube recommended me "Arc Browser is a joke" from Chris Titus

    • @gravity00x
      @gravity00x 3 месяца назад +1

      the irony of life

  • @Rocksteady72a
    @Rocksteady72a 3 месяца назад +17

    Every other year there feels like there's a surge of people *swearing* the next big browser is here. "It must be! Dozens are using it!"

  • @4stringed
    @4stringed 3 месяца назад +4

    That's basically everything that Vivaldi browser already does...

  • @ego-lay_atman-bay
    @ego-lay_atman-bay 4 месяца назад +12

    The funny thing is, many browsers have been putting features from arc into their browsers. For example, brave got a sixebar that allows you to stick bookmarks, tabs, and mote in it, which is pretty much the same as arc.
    Personally I will never use arc, or any arc features, all because I like having my tabs on the top of my screen. I know they get really squished when I have a bunch of tabs, but I also like having the websites centered, which they wouldn't be if I have a sidebar. I just can never get used to a sidebar in my browser, because I don't want to seel like I'm switching between different files in my code editor. One thing that I think desktop browsers really should have is a way to add scrolling to the tab bar. I mean, code editors that have tabs (vscode) make the tab bar scrollable, so it can show all the title of the tab. Plus, mobile browsers have had that since forever.

    • @pitjesgv
      @pitjesgv 4 месяца назад +2

      I use my arc Sidebar hidden. I can put my mouse on the left side of my screen to make it appear or press cmd + S. It works the same way as your code editor where you can just scroll through all tabs and you can drag and drop tabs to have them splitscreen

    • @ParasAryan
      @ParasAryan 2 месяца назад +2

      most of the features are already present in vivaldi long before arc was even a thing.

  • @nocontrol2543
    @nocontrol2543 5 месяцев назад +2

    Not open source, earns it an automatic "I don't care".

  • @sferro21
    @sferro21 6 месяцев назад +23

    Loved the video. Haven’t tried it yet but I previously tried Sigma OS: really enjoyed but it was buggy so went back to chrome. Interesting to see what they come up with with the monetisation process 🎉

    • @grissee
      @grissee 6 месяцев назад +5

      sigmaos is webkit based, while arc is chromium based so it's more stable

    • @Bernardoskau
      @Bernardoskau 5 месяцев назад +1

      Why tf would someone name it sigma 💀

    • @Eugensson
      @Eugensson 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@grissee Both Chromium's Blink engine and the Apple's WebKit are based on the KHTML engine.

    • @XueHuaPiaoPiao69
      @XueHuaPiaoPiao69 5 месяцев назад

      Orion is also a nice browser, but it's more of an alternative to Safari than SigmaOS/Arc. Doesn't have a lot of features, but it's so efficient

    • @jonasak
      @jonasak 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Bernardoskau Sigma is a Greek letter.

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM 4 месяца назад +14

    let me get this completely clear, nobody is "ditching chrome" in fact arc browser is based on chromium, which is just chrome.
    ditching chrome for chrome with sprinkles on it.

    • @arctic_haze
      @arctic_haze 4 месяца назад

      You can ditch Chrome if you switch to Firefox. Most of the rest are really Chrome in a disguise.

  • @typosbro_
    @typosbro_ Месяц назад +1

    I just got my Arc through Windows waiting list and this is literally the first thing I searched😂

  • @armaanii
    @armaanii 6 месяцев назад +63

    Free, but nothing is free. If something is free, chances are you are the product in some way. Even if its not data.

    • @CodexBS
      @CodexBS 6 месяцев назад +22

      literally every web browser... what are you trying to say?

    • @user-di8kl4cc5u
      @user-di8kl4cc5u 6 месяцев назад +30

      Have you heard of open source license?

    • @sboinkthelegday3892
      @sboinkthelegday3892 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@user-di8kl4cc5u Ah, loicense, the literal pass that prevents anyone without one to use. Artificial scarcity is a value product. Yes, it stifles competition by disallowing the technology to enter into the competitive capitalist market, because those competitors would be monetizing it and actually funding their operations.
      "Open" stuff is funded by the luxury of people working out of their basements who don't have to worry about banana economy, because all the food in the stores near their basement is secured by exploitation.
      In "closed' economy all you need is the money to license it. In "open" economy, now were talking going to beg from the creator for a gentleman's promise, that you're in their little club of being ALLOWED to promote them by crediting and promoting them. It's a social credit pyramid scheme, and the MONEY has to come from YOUR pocket because inestors would compromise some vacuous integrity of your anti-capitalist cause.

    • @PavelShevchuk
      @PavelShevchuk 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@CodexBS Safari is technically not free because you must buy a piece of hardware to run the app

    • @swagmuffin9000
      @swagmuffin9000 5 месяцев назад

      @@user-di8kl4cc5u lol exactly what i was going to say

  • @CringePoop
    @CringePoop 4 месяца назад +4

    Vivaldi seems like an actual cult. But unlike Arc, it's much more customizable, available for everything, and doesn't require an invite. The only problem is that it can be buggy sometimes.

  • @jogoeire
    @jogoeire 4 месяца назад

    Really great video. Love the focus on business plan / market fit.

  • @tubefaze
    @tubefaze 3 месяца назад +3

    Extensions? Linux support?

  • @DePhoegonIsle
    @DePhoegonIsle 3 месяца назад +3

    Ya.... The instinct to not trust what appears to be a trap is flaring up pretty high right now. a NY based 'browser company' that is using a invite system & is building a cult like community, for a browser and in a clip mentions boost for monetization, while also using AI summaries for web pages (which is to say google got flack for topic summarization, and this one is going to cut out the need for going to a site all together).
    Ya, not only does the 'boosts' as possible monetization bother me, but the fact that AI tooling is baked so deeply into the browser that you'd have to be crazy to not think the tooling set would be able to look sideways and see your history.
    This is on top of the in group, thing and quite honestly an instant dislike for 'artificial scarcity', as that's only ever done harm to anything that's not a game, and even then, it's a lie in most games.
    Ya, I don't think another NY startup that's some how 'reinventing' some core thing, and proposing to do it for free with no reasonable map of sustainability is a good thing. Seriously, it's really damn'd easy to just flip that switch, and if I had to be honest I could just default to MS Edge without a second though. Does MS get my data.. ya, but I will never have to worry about MS panicing and suddenly fliping the Product (edge) around trying to make a profit ... off of you searching the web. This will happen, arc will change and I can't think of one valid reason to switch from Edge to arc, and that's assuming I had an invite code right now or immediate access to it.
    You mean the same tech space that is used to push trends and shape what the narrative is around products?.. Ya this will backfire.

  • @jaco96
    @jaco96 3 месяца назад +47

    > new browser!!!!
    > *look inside*
    > it's google chrome again

    • @kamaravichow
      @kamaravichow 2 месяца назад +3

      Cause people like something that works more than new, all extensions are made for chrome so they just used chrome

    • @jaco96
      @jaco96 2 месяца назад +1

      @vichow firefox has just as many if not more extensions 😭 but that's besides the point; the point is: it would be nice if someone for once actually made a browser and not a chrome reskin

    • @HoldTheHeathenHammerHigh
      @HoldTheHeathenHammerHigh 2 месяца назад

      @@kamaravichow All really good extensions only works with Firefox. Especially now because of Manifest v3.

    • @roberttranceedm
      @roberttranceedm 2 месяца назад +2

      Having a Blink engine from the Chromium project doesn't equal with being the same browser. People fucking need to understand this one thing!

    • @jaco96
      @jaco96 2 месяца назад +2

      @@roberttranceedm my point still stands: it would be nice if someone for once actually made a new browser and not just a reskin of something else. Using the same 2 engines basically creates a duopoly. Honestly the more engines/browser and the more fragmented the market share is the better!

  • @ripdog
    @ripdog 3 месяца назад +5

    I've literally never heard of 'Arc Browser'. Clickbait.

  • @modolief
    @modolief 4 месяца назад +17

    I tried Arc for a few months and it really didn't do anything special for me. I ended up switching to Brave. I use multiple browsers: Chrome for personal email and RUclips, Brave for work, and Firefox for most everything else. I also occasionally use Safari, Chrome Canary, LibreWolf, and Firefox Developer Edition for specialized scenarios.

  • @mendown8045
    @mendown8045 6 месяцев назад +2

    Wow. Wow. This browser is just wow. It really feels insane on Mac machine. Not sure about the other. Thank you!

  • @mounirb174
    @mounirb174 4 месяца назад

    Good intro, good comparative style !
    I'm subscribed !

  • @ReasonX3
    @ReasonX3 5 месяцев назад +12

    I know I sound like some boring dude on a fun party, but it doesn't look to me like a new standard of browsing the internet or something like that. This is still a Chromium browser under the hood, which means that everything works as usual, because this is how the Web was designed and continue to develop - you need everyone use same standards and don't break anything. Otherwise most websites would require specific browser versions to operate. So called, operational system for the Web means nothing more then visual design of the Arc application. In terms of real OS, like MacOS and Windows, any browser is just another application, which means its functionality is limited and can't expand beyond a set of actions that OS provides and allows to do.
    As far, as I understand, what Arc tries to do it to blend it's interface with the interface of an OS system it runs on. But this is still a regular application, not an "operational system".

    • @staskozak8118
      @staskozak8118 5 месяцев назад +5

      with Chrome/Edge i get random heating to 80c+ on m1 for no reason (once in 1-2 days), but not in Arc which surprise me. UX feels more unified, every week updates, UI better for me, new features regularly.
      Yes, you can do a lot in other browsers with apps, but when everything works well out of the box, the experience is much better.
      Using Arc for a year and will pay $5-10/month for using it in future.

    • @rana2hin
      @rana2hin 4 месяца назад

      ​@@staskozak8118bro, you never heard of Vivaldi Browser?

  • @siraaron4462
    @siraaron4462 6 месяцев назад +3

    Dang, when I saw the thumbnail at the top of my subscription feed I thought it was a browser company video for a sec. 😅

  • @SgtRamen69
    @SgtRamen69 4 месяца назад

    The moment I heard they moved tabs to the side I got convinced already. I do that with my taskbar in Windows too, so good

  • @antnoknee
    @antnoknee 6 месяцев назад +1

    Your about to reach 100k!

  • @Anon.G
    @Anon.G 6 месяцев назад +5

    This is me but with vivaldi

  • @paeon
    @paeon 3 месяца назад +2

    If the product are free, you are the product...

  • @chewyro_chewyro
    @chewyro_chewyro 2 месяца назад +1

    Just learned about Arc browser recently, and boy am I never going back to Chrome

  • @eruhinmakhtar9162
    @eruhinmakhtar9162 3 месяца назад +1

    Sorry, I don't think anything can pull me away from Vivaldi. The level of customizability is unparalleled. Plus, mouse gestures are great.

  • @milovangudelj
    @milovangudelj 3 месяца назад +2

    Does anyone remember when they were just starting to put out marketing content? The initial vision was that of a browser that was supposed to be a huge canvas where you could put anything and open website windows all over the place. It was a cool idea, but they must have realised pretty quickly it was kind of an impossible thing to do and switched to something a bit more down to earth.

  • @Eysc
    @Eysc 2 месяца назад

    name of the font? at 04:20 (Progressive Disclosure)

  • @es4199
    @es4199 26 дней назад

    I am surprised you didn't mention a team/business pricing tier. Similar to how slack followed a product led growth plan with invites and spreading in the tech workspace, Arc can also become the defacto collaborative browser that propels teams forward. You can already see how they might be placing the easel feature in the center with collaboration as their strong suite.

  • @stephencooper3583
    @stephencooper3583 6 месяцев назад +13

    It seems pretty solid... but at the same time ridiculously overhyped. Seriously... it's just a browser. And 90% of the features already exist on Microsoft Edge and other browsers.
    Can't help but wonder if they are paying off RUclipsrs to create buzz.

  • @finitesound
    @finitesound 4 месяца назад +3

    Arc is just a discount version of the Sidekick Browser. Literally, same thing with less features.

    • @joosia7452
      @joosia7452 2 месяца назад

      Tried both, now writing this on Arc. It just feels a lot smoother, polished and less cluttered product compared to Sidekick. And ofc it's free, for now at least... But time will tell if I'll go back to Firefox eventually. The learning curve isn't that bad but it's just the rewiring of the damn brain that takes effort, perhaps too much. 😅

  • @vash47
    @vash47 6 месяцев назад +8

    "only mac is supported" so by tech people you mean apple drones? yikes

    • @ToxiEpic
      @ToxiEpic Месяц назад

      There is a version of arc on windows but you need to be in the waitlist

    • @ToxiEpic
      @ToxiEpic Месяц назад

      As of now I am using arc on windows as it loads sites faster than brave and does not crash like chrome on my windows pc (i3 6th gen, 4 gb ddr4 ram, 512gb hdd and windows 11 pro)

    • @Superkuzia15
      @Superkuzia15 28 дней назад

      as the person above me said, they are working on a windows version (which is invite only for now), but it's pretty close to being fully finished as of writing this

  • @ewerybody
    @ewerybody 3 месяца назад +2

    Dude, 0:05 well I'm also working in tech and in my bubble NOBODY is talking about this!! I just see it every now and then on some tech website and it reeks of hype grind. But I'm curious... Maybe I'm mind blown after this video? I'll let you know :)

    • @ewerybody
      @ewerybody 3 месяца назад +2

      OK I'm still underwhelmed.

    • @gravity00x
      @gravity00x 3 месяца назад

      not surprised @@ewerybody

  • @phaberest_
    @phaberest_ 2 месяца назад

    I have to admit it was super easy for me to switch to Arc from Brave and I totally fell in love with it (especially because its floating windows work over full screen apps, so I can watch youtube or even better see the faces of the people I'm meeting while I'm on my full screen Alacritty or Figma). The only problem I see is that it's a Mac only app and is about to launch on Windows but didn't take linux into consideration, at least not at the moment.
    This is definitely something I would pay for, btw.

  • @bilboswaggings
    @bilboswaggings 6 месяцев назад +6

    i need both a mobile and a windows version, and bookmark sync between them
    and having adblock and other addons thanks to firefox is a way better feature set than any other current browser

    • @deletedchanneI
      @deletedchanneI 6 месяцев назад +2

      arc doesn’t offer bookmarks at all 😅 use raindrop or something they say

    • @bilboswaggings
      @bilboswaggings 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@deletedchanneI that is why I say I use and probably will stick to Firefox

    • @sboinkthelegday3892
      @sboinkthelegday3892 6 месяцев назад +1

      I really deeply want two functions out of a mobile browser. Firstly a scroll bar that shows a miniature preview of the ENTIRE page INSIDE the grey area of the scroll bar. And a thumbnail of the visible part outlined as the scroll slider. For comparison see the preview while hovering on the timeline of a RUclips video.
      Secondly, I want a function to retain that as the only visual of the page, while all the elements and links are made into a text-based summary. So you can have a clear side-by-side view of everything that is clickable on the page. For comparison, imagine if you could just view youube in that preview thumbnail, but the video box would be changed to comments and notes timestamped on the video.
      In short, reduce EVERYTHING on a page as "do not load images" function, but still have this little thumbnail of everything that would be visible, and visually formatted.

    • @deletedchanneI
      @deletedchanneI 6 месяцев назад

      @@sboinkthelegday3892 something really special and non-popular

    • @_majoneez
      @_majoneez 6 месяцев назад +1

      arc does offer bookmarks, bookmark folders, and you can even bookmark two split screen websites as a single bookmark so when you open it, both open (he shows this in the video at 3:31 ). A bookmark folder called “YT” is also shown in that time stamp.

  • @wakomikro
    @wakomikro 4 месяца назад +1

    I use and love the built in Samsung browser. I've tried all of them basically. I like some others (really picky) but fine back to this one. It's really good. S10+

  • @jacksonsingleton
    @jacksonsingleton 4 месяца назад +1

    As a "technical" person I used Arc when I first heard about it for about 20 minutes. Leaves a lot to be desired, only people I would consider "tech-adjacent" that are always using some cutting edge alternative hooplah is the exact market that Arc hits upon. I use MacOS, PC and Linux and Arc being on only one of those platforms is an immediate no-go. I'm not going to setup some convoluted keychain system to keep Arc in sync with Chrome/Firefox when those browsers work just as well, if not better, for most developers.

  • @alxmtncstudio2066
    @alxmtncstudio2066 3 месяца назад

    The "only on invite" was literally how Gmail worked his way in back in early 2000. That's how I got in! Worked like a charm
    Also, when you described arc at the beginning, you were describing exactly how I wish chrome to behave, so you sold it to me in less than 5min

  • @reduchimaki
    @reduchimaki 11 дней назад

    6:46 "called 'the browser company', cool name, btw" my thoughts exactly, simple, but it sounds nice!

  • @classicmax1
    @classicmax1 3 месяца назад +2

    whether this was intended as an ad or not, man, you _really_ edited this in such a way that it comes off strongly as an advertisement.

    • @gravity00x
      @gravity00x 3 месяца назад +2

      thats because it IS an advertisement. he took money for this without disclosing it. the script lists all those bullet points, that are insincere at best, because almost everything is already available in different kinds of browsers, like vivaldi or chrome. they just made a script that make it seem like they re-invented the wheel.

  • @CombatArmsTriiCky
    @CombatArmsTriiCky 4 месяца назад +2

    I'm in tech yet I would not switch to anything from Firefox for my personal browser like ever.
    Especially browsers with the chromium engine.

    • @rintintin_
      @rintintin_ 4 месяца назад +3

      AFAIK Arc is built on Chromium
      Also in tech - skeptically switched over to Arc expecting to turn back in a few days, never looked back

    • @darshakparikh5908
      @darshakparikh5908 3 месяца назад

      @@rintintin_ Same.

  • @GolgothaBridge
    @GolgothaBridge 4 месяца назад

    Can you convience me to switch from Opera?

  • @Zender-
    @Zender- 4 месяца назад +3

    Tried Arc for a couple months. It felt a bit... cluncky? Apart from that, its difficult to figure out where exactly stuff is. Like, where are my extentions?

    • @Action2me
      @Action2me 3 месяца назад

      Hover on the url bar and click the icon on the right

  • @deletemadog
    @deletemadog День назад

    Is there any reason for me to create an Arc account just for trying it out?

  • @AmeeliaK
    @AmeeliaK 3 месяца назад +1

    There's not even a waitlist for Linux. Feels like developers are not the target group.

  • @TeleviseGuy
    @TeleviseGuy 2 месяца назад

    It's a neat idea, but nothing beats the satisfying smooth dragging of tabs from the very top of the screen that browsers like Chrome, Edge and Brave do, or the ability to middle-click a bookmark to open several copies of it. Either way, I'm waiting for the Windows invite.

  • @adityashukla7849
    @adityashukla7849 6 месяцев назад +5

    Honestly, I've been watching few of these features in Microsoft edge for a while now. I don't even like these features in edge itself. Guess I'm growing old now... 👴🏼

  • @teh201d
    @teh201d 27 дней назад

    I tried the windows beta for a bit. I now use Edge with vertical tabs on.

  • @Arsalan_2210
    @Arsalan_2210 4 месяца назад

    That Mr. bean finger touch was out of nowhere😂😂😂paired with the windows sound was epic

  • @ericmackrodt9441
    @ericmackrodt9441 6 месяцев назад +8

    I think the design is beautiful and refreshing.
    But it's based on Chromium, I can't use chromium.
    I think it has too many features as well. I just want something that I can type an url and open a site. That's all I need.
    Also, it's not as good for Web development compared to normal raw browsers, especially if you want to keep your browser very organized.
    And the fact it's only available on Mac sucks. I can only use it in my work laptop, not on my desktop.

  • @alexanderminev
    @alexanderminev 6 месяцев назад +4

    It’s sad that I got that invite, but since I wasn’t on Mac I couldn’t get it😢

    • @vasanthan485
      @vasanthan485 6 месяцев назад +2

      yo! I don't have an invite, I don't have a mac either... 😭 BTW how could I get an invite?

    • @alexanderminev
      @alexanderminev 6 месяцев назад

      @@vasanthan485 it’s currently open to anyone. Windows is coming in the winter.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 6 месяцев назад

      time to buy a Mac

    • @vasanthan485
      @vasanthan485 6 месяцев назад

      @@marcogenovesi8570 im broke af

    • @dhairyadoshi508
      @dhairyadoshi508 3 месяца назад

      @@vasanthan485 windows beta sign up has begun, sign up for the waitlist now, got my access today!!

  • @kushekpayev
    @kushekpayev Месяц назад +1

    I know exactly how they gonna make money...they want to create as cool browser as possible, and then Google/Apple/Microsoft make an undeniable offer and acquire them. So they'll got the money, and we'll got all the features of Arc in Chrome but with our data being sold. And that's it. It happens all the time.

  • @fredsvlogandreviews5867
    @fredsvlogandreviews5867 Месяц назад

    This is the first time I am hearing about this browser. I switched to floorp recently. I love floorp.

  • @the_ghost_boy
    @the_ghost_boy Месяц назад

    never heard of this browser before but it sounds awesome, I want it

  • @Asidders
    @Asidders 3 месяца назад +1

    I have never heard of Arc and I consider my self tech-savvy

  • @acrosstundras
    @acrosstundras 4 месяца назад +1

    Vertical tabs don't make sense to me. A tab is like 10% icon, 90% label. And label is horizontal. Screen space is utilized much more efficiently with horizontal tabs.

  • @Iainsane
    @Iainsane 6 месяцев назад +1

    Think it is only available for Mac OS at present.

  • @robbyjvc
    @robbyjvc 3 месяца назад

    Waiting for arc on windows! 😊

  • @teklife
    @teklife 4 месяца назад +1

    Opera 10.10 way back in the day, i think it was around 2009, still had the best features and usability of any browser before or since. it was amazing the amount of shit u could do with that browser. why has no one, including opera, re-implemented to go to the next page when u hit the spacebar at the bottom of a webpage?

  • @DarkChaosMC
    @DarkChaosMC 6 месяцев назад +1

    I used to use it, waiting for a windows release

  • @akbar-sm
    @akbar-sm 3 месяца назад

    I'm using Arc as my main browser for my MBA 13 M2, the only thing I'm sticking to it is the workspace (space) as it integrates nicely with the trackpad gesture and ability to pin websites in vertical tabs, without having to bookmark them.
    I'm looking for those two features / extensions in Firefox or other browsers, then I'm ready to leave Arc.

  • @DxrrkSide
    @DxrrkSide 4 месяца назад +2

    most reviewers forget the super power that chrome has even if sometimes it’s laggy on some computer; Eco system, sync…I mean I can install chrome on another machine and all my stuff is there, from bookmarks, extensions I mean…