Mapo if you're ever tempted to play this game again in your own time, I recommend you pay some attention to the NPCs -- there's a lot more effort put in to them, there's a lot of NPC interactions and mini-story moments you're missing by leaving everybody behind
I like that while in the original game tanks felt like a part of enviroment, here it really feels that marines are actively throwing more and more stuff against you.
Mapocolops i really love this gameplay of Black Mesa, but you are missing a ton of dialogue by not making friendly npc follow you, a lot of funny and lore related conversation ^^
Got to echo a lot of what the comments are saying regarding NPC dialogue. The fact that you've reached the end of Surface Tension by the end of part 4 it feels a lot like you're powering through the game without much of a second thought. I can understand why that might be the case if you've been marathoning the entire Half-Life series back to back. In all honestly through, Black Mesa goes to great lengths to not only improve the games visuals and gameplay, but also the characters and dialogue. The opening chapter before the disaster has so much amusing dialogue you get from hanging around and observing the NPCs or interacting with the guards you can easily spend an hour there. The rest of the game does the same thing, extending character dialogue to have them discuss the situation amongst one another or comment on things you find as you explore with them. It really helps to bring them to life so much more than the original. Even the emergency broadcasts and military chatter you hear over the various radios throughout gives you some idea of what's going on outside the facility. :)
Yeah, you have no idea how painful it is - in any playthrough of this game - for players to completely ignore the dialogue without a second thought. I love Mapo, but gosh
My favorite part of the Earthbound chapters are the intense shootout parts with large battles that have multiple phases. Like at the dam for example. You ambush a group of soldiers, they call for backup, you take out the backup, rush into their stronghold on the dam, then you either face their reinforcement helicopter head-on and force it to retreat or you jump into the water. The segments like that really shows off the brute power they have over the place and helps to illustrate their descent into powerless retreat by the end of the chapter and in the subsequent one, little disappointed that you keep leaving everyone behind though
I can't believe he stick his nose in every corner, yet he completely miss the entire Xen Enclosure part (sure you see it later on, but here it looks stunning when you see it for the first time)
Loving this play through so far, though I think you should really take in what the game truly has to offer especially when it comes to dialogue and npc interactions. They’ve really put a lot of effort into npcs you interact with and more detail into their own little scenes if you manage to bring them along and keep them alive until their endpoint. It’s pretty lively in contrast with what HL1 presented. Although I don’t mind if you keep going the pace you’re at, it’s your playthrough after all and still engaging nevertheless
yeah it's a bit disappointing mapo keeps referring to it as a "fresh coat of paint." i think playing all the subsequent HL games has maybe caused him to forget quite how different HL1 is compared to this. he keeps saying "is this the part where ___ happens?" or "i don't remember this part," that's because a lot of portions are much different and modernized
@@DrLobot It feels like it, he is skipping a lot of areas and aren't exploring any of the side areas at all. He has missed a ton of areas already that he just ran past.
Imo I love playing it in hard cuz that’s the difficulty I feel is the most canon like, nothing gives you a big rush and feel like an actual dangerous man as being able to defeat big groups of marines.
Alyx mentions in hl2 that Breen was Gordon's administrator, so an administrator for the anomalous materials lab, meaning his office was probably around the area in the chapter "office complex".
So! Tanks and Vehicles in general are more generous in this since you can hit them anywhere to deal damage. The reason why "aim for the turret" was ever a thing was because the chassis of these vehicles were part of map geometry or entities that don't do anything. But since the vehicles are now their own monster entities, mappers can just place them on maps no different from any other NPC. Yes, Surface Tension IS the longest chapter since it's basically several combat arenas one after the other. The layouts in general have been changed to make the buildings you rummage through make more sense. Beyond certain key locations and landmarks, it's hard to trust your own memory on this.
Fairly rare though. I’ve broken every crate in the game and the ones that usually have loot are from older parts of the game that haven’t been updated much
1:36 Just "A little bit"? Lol, you have no idea. You'll be pogging your whole playthrough in Xen when you get there, boi. And well, I have to say it, I know you're playing at your own pace and enjoyment and that's great, but I think it would be better if you were trying not to rush the game so much, paying attention to the details in the game like dialogues and features would impress you a lot. This is not half-life 1 where you've already seen how the plot goes, this game has a lot of new things, even in the earthbound (Pre-Xen) chapters. Take this as a huge feedback, you're already doing great in this playthrough, but you can do better in order to get the best of your opinions and perspectives about this game. This was the reason we highly reccomended you to play it: To see what do you think deeply about the whole game progression. The same as you did during the Whole Half-Life 2 and its episodes.
I've just realized there is no blood on your hands/weapon model. This feature was disabled by default in latest versions, but you can enable it. Write to the developer console "cl_mdldetailfx_enable 1" without the quotation marks to enable it and "cl_mdldetailfx_enable 0" to disable. Your can test this feature without video and keep it if you like it.
The music in that lobby battle in questionable ethics is so good, I love timing it so I kill the last guy when the song ends, makes you feel like a badass
I’m really enjoying watching you play this! It’s odd to me how it seems you get a surprising amount of rude comments, I really don’t get why. Your playthroughs that I’ve watched have felt genuine and it feels like you care about understanding and enjoying the games you play. Keep up the great work! We definitely need more content creators like you.
I'm glad you said something about the audio mixing being all over the place because those were my exact thoughts playing through this game the first time as well. I wish they had more controls for individual elements instead of just music and then everything else. If nothing else, I'd wish Crowbar Collective would go back and do an audio pass on the project and balance the mixing out.
please pay a bit more attention to the npcs. ik they dont do much in hl1, but they put a lot of effort into their dialogue etc. in certain areas in this game.
This is one of those youtuber things that really shouldnt get on your nerves as much as it does but you cant help but say something. I feel you he's completely missing out on so much I wonder if he's reading comments or is waiting till the game is finshed lmao
Actually this does make more sense, since this game takes place post-geneva convention. While mines aren't banned in military court, they need proper labelling and ease of removal, having them easily seen is a method in this. The objective of the minefield is to control troop movement but having them unlabelled and undetectable is a warcrime.
@@dracmeister imagine the HECU just pulled a "well this isn't a war" and decided to bury the mines. Would make Black Mesa ST so much more tense in the minefield sections.
@@Bumbum62673 Geneva Convention also applies post-war/peacetime. Because if you have hidden/unlabelled mines on, like say, a dirt road commonly travelled by civilians, once these roads become open to travel once more, who's to say the military force who set it up in the first place has come to remove it? If innocent lives are taken by carelessness of soldiers, who'd be accountable? Obviously, when it reaches media outlets, they'd blame it on the military in general. But-hey, uhm. Who's gonna stop the HECU anyway, the Warcrime police? This is the inherent problem with the Geneva Convention, it's really hard to enforce and only covers the countries that signed in to it. I'd probably also take it that the mines are anti-personnel so what'd set them off is lighter than a truck. So a mine with too much sand on it might just blow up tossing more sand around.
1:27:45 that's because you miss the doubleshots most of the time, or hit them with just the edge of bullet spread :) You're mostly wasting ammo and lowering your damage with the longer reloads, you have twice the chance to hit if you use single shots, unless you're really close
If you dont pick up the hive hand right away and you pick it up after you help the security gaurd, he will have something funny to say about the animation
No, he was referring to a cat which they used to test the teleporter that you use to get out of Kleiners lab at the start of the "A Red Letter Day" chapter in HL2.
It's sad they made Questionable Ethics easier that way. I'm the original, it was possible to softlock in the scientist part is all of them died during The event of getting to the eye scanner or when the HECU invades.
Soundtrack deployment in this game is not very well timed, it sounds like you're supposed to be fighting your enemies while the music is playing, but you already disposed of them before the music kicked in at times. Remember that the laser gun can take a helicopter down in one supercharged shot, but make sure to time it well so you don't miss or OVERcharge ;)
I know it’s been over a year, but you should try to take your times on this kind of games, I feel you are rushing all the time for the objective and you miss little gems like the npc interactions and hidden areas.
why does mapo always leave the cops behind? The interactable NPCs follow you and help you out, plus at 1:28:40 you could've met the guy's partner who you left behind
@@Mabra51 you really are though, i love replaying surface tension, its so fun and detailed. and dont complain that is full of HECU, the scientists literally warn you its under complete military control..
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58:20
Look Gordon, a rope. We can use those to traverse pits! -Dr. Coomer
He really did try to use it as a rope 😭
Mapo if you're ever tempted to play this game again in your own time, I recommend you pay some attention to the NPCs -- there's a lot more effort put in to them, there's a lot of NPC interactions and mini-story moments you're missing by leaving everybody behind
I like that while in the original game tanks felt like a part of enviroment, here it really feels that marines are actively throwing more and more stuff against you.
Shame you missed the scientists going "My God! Look at this" and whatnot after you eliminate the military before leaving ethics.
Mapocolops i really love this gameplay of Black Mesa, but you are missing a ton of dialogue by not making friendly npc follow you, a lot of funny and lore related conversation ^^
Got to echo a lot of what the comments are saying regarding NPC dialogue. The fact that you've reached the end of Surface Tension by the end of part 4 it feels a lot like you're powering through the game without much of a second thought. I can understand why that might be the case if you've been marathoning the entire Half-Life series back to back.
In all honestly through, Black Mesa goes to great lengths to not only improve the games visuals and gameplay, but also the characters and dialogue. The opening chapter before the disaster has so much amusing dialogue you get from hanging around and observing the NPCs or interacting with the guards you can easily spend an hour there. The rest of the game does the same thing, extending character dialogue to have them discuss the situation amongst one another or comment on things you find as you explore with them. It really helps to bring them to life so much more than the original.
Even the emergency broadcasts and military chatter you hear over the various radios throughout gives you some idea of what's going on outside the facility. :)
Yeah, you have no idea how painful it is - in any playthrough of this game - for players to completely ignore the dialogue without a second thought. I love Mapo, but gosh
Thats why people wanted him to play Black Mesa first instead of Half life 1. He would be blown away
My favorite part of the Earthbound chapters are the intense shootout parts with large battles that have multiple phases. Like at the dam for example. You ambush a group of soldiers, they call for backup, you take out the backup, rush into their stronghold on the dam, then you either face their reinforcement helicopter head-on and force it to retreat or you jump into the water. The segments like that really shows off the brute power they have over the place and helps to illustrate their descent into powerless retreat by the end of the chapter and in the subsequent one, little disappointed that you keep leaving everyone behind though
I can't believe he stick his nose in every corner, yet he completely miss the entire Xen Enclosure part (sure you see it later on, but here it looks stunning when you see it for the first time)
ikr i was so sad
Pretty sad i guess, but he still did kinda see it. But you know what's really sad and disappointing? He missed the snark cannon.
Loving this play through so far, though I think you should really take in what the game truly has to offer especially when it comes to dialogue and npc interactions. They’ve really put a lot of effort into npcs you interact with and more detail into their own little scenes if you manage to bring them along and keep them alive until their endpoint. It’s pretty lively in contrast with what HL1 presented.
Although I don’t mind if you keep going the pace you’re at, it’s your playthrough after all and still engaging nevertheless
yeah it's a bit disappointing mapo keeps referring to it as a "fresh coat of paint." i think playing all the subsequent HL games has maybe caused him to forget quite how different HL1 is compared to this. he keeps saying "is this the part where ___ happens?" or "i don't remember this part," that's because a lot of portions are much different and modernized
Just wait until he gets to Xen, it’s quite the fresh coat of paint I’ll say that
@@tpd1864blake Sure is, can’t wait!
He is kind of speedrunning this one, isn't he?
@@DrLobot It feels like it, he is skipping a lot of areas and aren't exploring any of the side areas at all. He has missed a ton of areas already that he just ran past.
I always forget how easy easy mode is in Black Mesa, I love the idea of Gordon taking fire from dozens of soldiers and still somehow staying alive
But still dies lol
Imo I love playing it in hard cuz that’s the difficulty I feel is the most canon like, nothing gives you a big rush and feel like an actual dangerous man as being able to defeat big groups of marines.
I'm pretty sure he's playing it on normal difficulty, no ?
Alyx mentions in hl2 that Breen was Gordon's administrator, so an administrator for the anomalous materials lab, meaning his office was probably around the area in the chapter "office complex".
So! Tanks and Vehicles in general are more generous in this since you can hit them anywhere to deal damage.
The reason why "aim for the turret" was ever a thing was because the chassis of these vehicles were part of map geometry or entities that don't do anything.
But since the vehicles are now their own monster entities, mappers can just place them on maps no different from any other NPC.
Yes, Surface Tension IS the longest chapter since it's basically several combat arenas one after the other.
The layouts in general have been changed to make the buildings you rummage through make more sense. Beyond certain key locations and landmarks, it's hard to trust your own memory on this.
58:29 Look Gordon! Ropes! We can use them to traverse large pits.
Those crates besides labelled ones sometime has health and ammo in it. You should not ignore it.
Fairly rare though. I’ve broken every crate in the game and the ones that usually have loot are from older parts of the game that haven’t been updated much
he is so mindful in other games, here he just runs around like a headless chicken
@@shadowpowahful Rambo shooting
57:05 Black Mesa logo :D
Oh shit I kinda see it
That's neat
dw mate, we all died the first time when that lift came up with the box^^
1:36 Just "A little bit"? Lol, you have no idea. You'll be pogging your whole playthrough in Xen when you get there, boi.
And well, I have to say it, I know you're playing at your own pace and enjoyment and that's great, but I think it would be better if you were trying not to rush the game so much, paying attention to the details in the game like dialogues and features would impress you a lot. This is not half-life 1 where you've already seen how the plot goes, this game has a lot of new things, even in the earthbound (Pre-Xen) chapters. Take this as a huge feedback, you're already doing great in this playthrough, but you can do better in order to get the best of your opinions and perspectives about this game. This was the reason we highly reccomended you to play it: To see what do you think deeply about the whole game progression. The same as you did during the Whole Half-Life 2 and its episodes.
I've just realized there is no blood on your hands/weapon model. This feature was disabled by default in latest versions, but you can enable it. Write to the developer console "cl_mdldetailfx_enable 1" without the quotation marks to enable it and "cl_mdldetailfx_enable 0" to disable. Your can test this feature without video and keep it if you like it.
OH SHIT! i thought it was removed. will get it back this way then tnx!
Are they removed radio message from the sniper which tells that Feeman is orange ice pop? Cause I didn't heard it .
@@ilkeribrahim6541 i think they did but there is a add-on that adds its back, its called "Restored Treefrog3 Chatter"
The music in that lobby battle in questionable ethics is so good, I love timing it so I kill the last guy when the song ends, makes you feel like a badass
I’m really enjoying watching you play this! It’s odd to me how it seems you get a surprising amount of rude comments, I really don’t get why. Your playthroughs that I’ve watched have felt genuine and it feels like you care about understanding and enjoying the games you play. Keep up the great work! We definitely need more content creators like you.
24:05 never would i have think to ever see a dev comments used there
I'm glad you said something about the audio mixing being all over the place because those were my exact thoughts playing through this game the first time as well. I wish they had more controls for individual elements instead of just music and then everything else. If nothing else, I'd wish Crowbar Collective would go back and do an audio pass on the project and balance the mixing out.
57:03 if you look closely you will see that it resembles something
57:06 I LOVED this section!
2:21 I've always wondered why you stay crouched when you do that and that's why lol
Hey Mapo, I can't recommend enough that you play Subnautica one of these days! It's a survival game with stunning visuals and a great story
please pay a bit more attention to the npcs. ik they dont do much in hl1, but they put a lot of effort into their dialogue etc. in certain areas in this game.
This is one of those youtuber things that really shouldnt get on your nerves as much as it does but you cant help but say something. I feel you he's completely missing out on so much I wonder if he's reading comments or is waiting till the game is finshed lmao
Try shooting the turrets.
1:15:25 - mines was completely invisable in the original Half-Life, not Black Mesa. Yeah, visible mines make less sense :D
Actually this does make more sense, since this game takes place post-geneva convention.
While mines aren't banned in military court, they need proper labelling and ease of removal, having them easily seen is a method in this.
The objective of the minefield is to control troop movement but having them unlabelled and undetectable is a warcrime.
@@dracmeister thanks for the explanation
@@dracmeister imagine the HECU just pulled a "well this isn't a war" and decided to bury the mines. Would make Black Mesa ST so much more tense in the minefield sections.
@@Bumbum62673 Geneva Convention also applies post-war/peacetime.
Because if you have hidden/unlabelled mines on, like say, a dirt road commonly travelled by civilians, once these roads become open to travel once more, who's to say the military force who set it up in the first place has come to remove it? If innocent lives are taken by carelessness of soldiers, who'd be accountable? Obviously, when it reaches media outlets, they'd blame it on the military in general.
But-hey, uhm. Who's gonna stop the HECU anyway, the Warcrime police? This is the inherent problem with the Geneva Convention, it's really hard to enforce and only covers the countries that signed in to it.
I'd probably also take it that the mines are anti-personnel so what'd set them off is lighter than a truck. So a mine with too much sand on it might just blow up tossing more sand around.
I really enjoy these dim creepy industrial areas, definitely more than Xen in this remake
1:27:45 that's because you miss the doubleshots most of the time, or hit them with just the edge of bullet spread :) You're mostly wasting ammo and lowering your damage with the longer reloads, you have twice the chance to hit if you use single shots, unless you're really close
24:06 That was probably a message to Deniz Sezen, a senior developer for this game.
"Look Gordon, ropes! We can use them for big pits!"
I forgot how awesome the music is in this game! I love the track at 47:20
If you dont pick up the hive hand right away and you pick it up after you help the security gaurd, he will have something funny to say about the animation
Nobody got the Dopefish reference! Oh my god I am starting to get soooo old! Nevertheless THE DOPEFISH LIVES! 29:17
I think they're surviving the double shots because you are only grazing them as they move by.
31:52 thats cause their trained soldiers
1:23:12
He's as small as a hero needs to be, Mapo. He's hero-sized.
Game audio is pretty low in relation to your voice. Other than that, enjoying this series!
Can't believe you're wearing a beanie man, we're in the middle of a record breaking 40C heatwave in the UK :)
And it's freezing Winter on the other side of the world lol
@@Mapocolops people tend to forget that south hemisphere is winter when north is summer lol
1:18:54 imagine doing this in HL: sven (multiplayer). one guy complete the area & other guy block the door
This man really just missed the Snarks
no he didn't?
1:39:27
1:39:27
1:39:27
@@lucialambda oh right. forgot that third opportunity, didnt completly watch it yet. still saw some streamr shoot it lmao
58:27 LOOK MAPO!! ROPES!!1
You have some of the best playthroughs on youtube but this one is not gonna get a like from me
After Black Mesa, I'd like to see you play the short demo of half-life that is its own unique thing called Half-Life: Uplink.
1:28:14 best part
💀
23:03 Remember in half life 2 when barney says he still have nightmares about that cat? well i guess he was referring to this cat on the frame.
No, he was referring to a cat which they used to test the teleporter that you use to get out of Kleiners lab at the start of the "A Red Letter Day" chapter in HL2.
the conveyor belt section was broken beyond belief in half life source. A glitchy skybox would be glitching through the walls
Can't believe he didn't pick up the Snarks in QE D:
Noice
It's sad they made Questionable Ethics easier that way. I'm the original, it was possible to softlock in the scientist part is all of them died during The event of getting to the eye scanner or when the HECU invades.
You're missing out on some neat dialogues by not taking the guards with you.
Soundtrack deployment in this game is not very well timed, it sounds like you're supposed to be fighting your enemies while the music is playing, but you already disposed of them before the music kicked in at times.
Remember that the laser gun can take a helicopter down in one supercharged shot, but make sure to time it well so you don't miss or OVERcharge ;)
23:42 Wait. Pizza box with the CE mark, in America? xD
I know it’s been over a year, but you should try to take your times on this kind of games, I feel you are rushing all the time for the objective and you miss little gems like the npc interactions and hidden areas.
why does mapo always leave the cops behind? The interactable NPCs follow you and help you out, plus at 1:28:40 you could've met the guy's partner who you left behind
Man I hated the canyons in both games. Still get mentally nervous every time I play it😅
i really wish u took more npcs with you
u missed out alot of funny interactions through out this playthrough
1:10:15
"What happened to my health" he says while being shot at by a *tank* .
32:00 you looked in the room but you didnt go in it. There is an HEV charge in there and that's where you get the snarks
The amount of people complaining he missed the xen room but no one complaining how he missed the snark cannon amazes me.
It makes me so sad how much you missed by ignoring the npcs, ngl, one of the main features of Black Mesa :(
On my cheap garbage keyboard I have option to lock Windows key to prevent accidental pressing
What’s the difference between Black Mesa and the original half life because I’m not sure ?
Graphics, new voices, new sounds, basically half life 1 but better
Why is your crouch on toggle? You can turn that off in the options so you don't get stuck crouching when there's action happening.
it's death note 1:19:45
I hated the sewer section.
"Surviving a double shot", You're missing dude, dont blame the game
1:016:17 i have never seen anyone do this
1:28:14 LMAO
You missed a lot of interesting dialogue by rushing through and not let friendly NPC's follow you.
Why does everyone call Xen "zen" ?
...that's how it's pronounced
@@BoogieBrando No.
@@Mabra51 yea
@@BoogieBrando No.
Actually supposed to be Ksen ,but you hear it like zen .
Surface Tension has got to be the worst chapter, it's just HECU everywhere.
Imagine being this wrong
😑🗿
Yes, that's why it's called surface tension.
@@NomadKolibria I'm not.
@@Mabra51 you really are though, i love replaying surface tension, its so fun and detailed. and dont complain that is full of HECU, the scientists literally warn you its under complete military control..
You are constantly nitpicking this game. If it's so bad, why don't you stop playing and play something else?
Example? Not once have I said this game is bad.
What are you talking about
lmao he hasnt been nitpicking wtf