Getting Ahead of the Plasterer
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2023
- The Sockitz Safety Sheild lets you finish your electrical work before the plasterers start. No more muck in your back box.
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I don’t understand why you would ever put fittings on before plastering. I always bring the boxes level with the plasterboard and tuck the wires in the box so the spread can get a lovely smooth finish . Nothing worse than having having lumpy plaster round the switch .
If I’m using dry lining boxes I mark the positions where they are going on a plan . Then cut them out after it’s plastered.
Plasterers i work with have respect for me and clean out boxes . Many times they say most electricians can’t even be bothered to tuck wires flush in boxes
@@theflesh1072and so do the majority of electricians.
If I tried that with the plasterers I worked alongside when I used to do install, I know for a fact they'd plaster over every switch and socket intentionally.
As if plasterers would be that considerate.
I love your videos eFixx, but this one misses the mark. Great for DIY filling, but no plasterer on earth wants to go round boxes like that.
great idea but meanwhile in the real world that switch wold covered in plaster,
Ive usd these several times on house rewires and i do like them but plasterers dont. They just want to skim straight over.
Would still end up wolloped full of plaster😅
Never in the real world has this happened. Plasterers have the name for a reason because they plaster everything 😅
Thats two lots of second fixing to do, no thanks
Why fix the back boxes so far back in the first place. Either fix them forward more or use deeper boxes.
Awesome, right up to the moment you put the screw covers on 😂
*smh* Why would you put the screw caps in before the painters had finished??? You know them outlets gonna get plastered with emulsion lol
Why use square boxes? In norway and many other countries we use either round or oval-shaped, much easier to cut. The boxes even use lids with points in the center for marking the drywall
This is assuming your plasterer isn’t one of those angry types who will make life miserable however they can because they only want blank walls.
Jobs so nice I’m gonna do it twice!
Bought a 10 pack off of the back of this - SO useful for sparkies like me who can't plaster for toffee.
Why to not use plasterboard box ?
The brass inserts often pull out of the plastic, if you have to do the screws up tight to make an accessory flush...metal back boxes can stand a lot more pressure...
@@Ironic1950 If you are pulling brass inserts out on a regular basis, you need to reasses the way you work.
@@markrainford1219 Mark; the original, thirty-year-old fitting had already failed, then replacing that with a new box (a pretty simple task involving six original wires), the new box failed on one side, but not the other. Put another box in (one with yellow fixings - can't read the make - Appleby) and that has not failed, so likely the poor performance of the brass inserts, rather than my incompetence, as you blithely imply...I had also used a couple of the same box in other locations (again, because the original had already failed), with no brass insert pulling out problems. My preferred solution is to glue a bit of wood behind the fitting, then fit a metal backing box! Never had one of those fail! Skilled and experienced over 50 years, and possessed of considerable mechanical sympathy, so you may wish to reconsider your comment...
That’s the best way to get your cable nicked. No plasterer is that careful around accessories
Lovely video!
Finally got a solution for those pesky plasterers, satisfying innit!
They work for when the painters are next in as well...
You know the mud slingers are going to work hard finding ways of fouling this up, don;t you?
😂
Box marker looks a great tool
Why is the back box so far back, is it not easier to have it maybe a mm or 2 behind the face of the plaster
Why don’t you cut the holes after the plasterer is done? Seems like less work. Where I’m from we do this, and use front mounted boxes, so the box is installed after the plasterer/painter is done
Good ideas 😊
Pointless levelling up the faceplate as it will have to come off for painting anyway, if you use a good painter that is!
I hope Sparkies in the USA see this clip,
We don’t really do too much plaster anymore old chap 😉
What’s the wiha screwdriver at the end with the push button end cap?
where do you get these really fancy outlets and switches? I've never seen anything like them.
Perfect electric
Why you mark N with extra brown ?
Please use some of the ad revenue to buy some suitably sized cpc sleeving.
😂That’s perfect size sleaving
Where's the link?
What about the painters?
Use these at work as i work for a council plasterers hate them if the box is sunk the plasterers get a better finish without second fixing and using these
Can you give me the level app link
A nice fire gap .
Blue and brown wire to the switch ? 🙃 ok why not...
Mobi9me ye kaun sa app ha level 0 krne ke liye
Great idea, but unfortunately the plasterer will still either plaster directly over the switch or splatter it so much much after they have finished there crack pipe and beating one out over the daily star that you’ll have to replace it anyway
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where can i get a 50 USD small flat head screw driver?!
I just noticed you weren’t using the pliers to 100% efficiencylenty, when bending the ends of the copper place the loop in the curved groove to crimp without chinking the soft copper. In mine the groove is at a 45° angle…
neat!
Bro, you just do the most.😅
Get some over to Nick Bundy. He is always getting his back box filled by the Plasterer
Please what's the name
Tape and joint - yes, decorating - yes, plastering - no.
Sparkies doing drywall these days?
There is a gap between the back box and the board… Should be lining the gap with fireproof putty
Why not put a different cover on first, then after plaster is done, remove that and install a new switch plate so you don't have to worry about residual material on the permanent cover? Just keep those temporary covers and take from job to job instead of spending time washing what is not easy to wash.
lets do it 3 times...
There has to be a better way
Those little white screw caps should be a criminal offence to use!
app name
May work.?
Pushes the plasterboard into the whole, no box.. Hey presto! - BOX! Stop doing these fake vids. Also on site, its not a sparks job to cut the boards out. So you are encouraging a new norm. If you sell wholesale that's fine, maybe some of you are ex-sparks, but stop preaching that you are pro-sparks and this is how it is. You are eroding the trade for profit. Why are you 2nd fixing before the final skim and decoration? Also fire regs now insist that the back box touch the plaster... So your 3D-printed yellow box is a load of nonsense...
It’s a Sockitz - safety shield as seen on Dragons Den. The builder cut the boards and which fire regs are you on about and how do they cope with plastic boxes?
Actually had to use something similar in wrongky set boxes in timber frame houses in canada called spark cards. Apparently supposed to prevent a spark from getting in walls causing a fire.
I'm glad some else is thinking this is absolutely ridiculous, as I thought I must be going mad.
@@efixx Reckitts of Hull. Massive factory new build and a refurb. £105M project. Not some fake stuff in your stock room. Also on jobs since. They want the box to meet the accessory.
Who will screw a lid on for the plasterboarder to take it off and cut a hole?! Plasterboarder is just going to smash the board on the proud box, slash the hole out with a knife and done... This DIY stuff for idiots and your are passing it off as professional. Its clown town.
So you’re a slabbed too?
What app do you use for the level
iPhone - measure
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What app is being used as a level?
Is it on Google play store?
It’s the measure app built in to iPhone
@@efixx ah that explains it lol.
Thanks for the speedy response and congratulations on creating an excellent channel 👍
Try it with bricks and mortar
Put those screw caps in again, and it's war!!!!!!!!!
What screwdriver is the button one?
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@@efixx thanks 👍
Waste of time and money
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Not in the US. Try again😂
I was with you till you put those white caps on. Poor workmanship. Give them to clients and say you put em on you take them off in future 😅
Love those square device boxes you guys have in the UK. Best of both worlds aesthetically would be if the devices were more flush and independent of the cover plate as they are in North America.
We have half of that. Look up the MK Grid system - covers are independent.
oh my god, this feel outdated as hell, come on... look at "legrand batibox"
Plasterers ruin a good job
Nup, too much work. Wait till the chalk muncers are done, then doya thing
This is ridiculous. Need to a stop watching this crap 😂
These wordless videos are about as useful as the wordless instructions on an IKEA flatpack...that is, the plastic face extender allows the plasterer to finish the wall without worrying about the sockets being installed after!
Please what's the name
You've a very positive outlook 😂
But there something I have to ask... why do you use rigid wires as well as flexible wires? I thought those cables were only used in America
In the UK we use solid wire in the walls because it doesn't need to be flexible because it should never have to move regularly. We use flexible cable for appliances because it will be moved around daily and solid wire is a) too stiff and b) would eventually break under repeated bending.
But sometimes flexible cable is used in some situations for permanent installations where solid wire might not be appropriate e.g. due to temperature, or for another reason.
@@CoolSteve08 Thank you very much! I'm italian and here we use only flexible wire althoug is not coated (it's a single cable, one for neutral one for live and one for earth) i think flexible wire is much more simpler to pull trough corrugated pipe, I remember once I had to took out 50 meters of some old rigid telephone wire from a private driveway, it took forever because there where a lot of curves and junction boxes, so it was harder because it bent a lot
Hahaha have you actually worked with plasterers? so make a 3rd trip to finish job?
It's called second fix. 1st fix is the rough installation. 2nd fix is finalisation which you will always have to go back for anyway because it is almost invariable that the customer will call at some point and say "hey can you..." for some other little thing...
@@evanstedman7405 If your going back to your 2nd fix, you either made a mistake or you knowingly 2nd fixed before other trades were finished.
@Evan Stedman so first fix, then stick your sockets and switches on after the boarders, then go back again when the plasterers are done? 3 times no?
@@dvrn86 that would be worst case scenario. If the job has been scheduled properly (and this only really applies to new builds or total guts) both trades will be working on site at the same time. Electricians complete the roughin and install the marker plates then the boarders go round behind them and by the time the electrician is finished they can go back around and swap these for the marker plates and the outlets, light switches and anything else. Then the plasterers or painters go round. Then the sparks come back and properly complete the installation of the outlets.
This is just plain wrong. Everything here is the hard way with a lower quality result. Rookie should leave it to the pros
Useless product no one in their right mind would do that
No, just no.
Бредятина, выключать только после чистовой отделки устанавливается, а не весь этот цирк.
За такой ужасный монтаж в России можно и по башке получить.
What is the point of all that? The plasterers do there job before 2nd fix. Why would need to put fanciers on before that.