VENOM 3: The Last Dance Trailer BREAKDOWN and Spider-Man Cameo EXPLAINED + What is Sony Doing?
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‘’The something to do with spiderman universe “ cracks me up! 😂😂
Im convinced the creatures attacking Venom arent other symbiotes, but the symbiote natural predator: Xenophange.
Yes!!!! The Hunted story line.
I like that a lot more cause I was thinking if those were supposed to be symbiotes that's extremely disappointing.
yep. as soon as i saw them, i knew
I hope
that sounds super cool, but that being synced up with the "my home has found us" line just doesn't make sense to me, unless they're doing another "misdirect" like how they put spider-man in the morbius trailer.
actually the mexican sign says: "Dont get lost", instead of "dont miss out".
That's the literal translation. "No Te Pierdas" is modern slang for "Don't Miss Out." The slang phrase was used a lot in the Spanish dub of Dragon balls in the outro. Where the narrator would say, "No te pierdas el próximo capítulo" meaning "don't miss the next episode"
It could basically mean the same thing just with different context
@sixto91lara I'm Nicaraguan. I have never in my life heard or experienced any instances where "No te pierdas" is used as a slang term for "Don't miss out"
It's not a slang term at all, lol. "No te pierdas [insert thing to not miss out]" is not a slang, it's just basic Spanish.
"No te pierdas, es peligroso" means "Don't get lost, it's dangerous out there". If you just leave "No te pierdas", it literally means "Don't get lost".
Now, "No te lo pierdas", THAT means "Don't miss out". The "lo" in here literally stands for "it".
I don't know where you got this piece of info about it being a slang term, I can assure you, it is not
Mexican sign? lol I didn’t know the sign could have an ethnicity, what’s the signs gender?
@@mc-joestar6199There's got to be a noun after "pierdas" for it to mean "don't miss out". Otherwise, the correct Spanish for that is "No te lo pierdas". The sign does indeed say "don't get lost".
The graffiti in Mexico actually says "don't get lost", but it's meant like, "don't lose yourself".
Danny Rojas is wearing the same shirt in that bar. He might have freaked out after seeing some weird guy disappear and then find symbiote goo. Danny Rojas had his family snapped. Probably coping with seeing venom/Eddie disappear as if it was another snap (in his mind)
This Danny is evidently from Venom's reality, not the MCU
@@joshuacollins9316 what the hell are you talking about? How on earth would you know for one. Two, Sony has a long history of bait and switch type things in trailers.
If it’s the same venom verse, you’re saying that venom was in his own universe and disappeared only to reappear in his own universe? Makes no sense.
@@user-xp3mn9we3m how? How on earth does that make sense? So Eddie was asking Danny about Thanos and Hulk then disappeared. Where did he go? Right back to the chair he was sitting in?
@@westcoastavenger He’s not in the MCU, the other version was.
1. We see Eddie talking with that guy at the bar while he’s in the MCU, and then Eddie is sent back to his own reality at the end of No Way Home.
2. And this movie appears to pick up right after the No Way Home ending considering Eddie is still in Mexico and is wearing the same clothes.
So if Eddie was sent back to his universes and this movie is set right after NWH, then that guy at the bar is a variant of the bar tender from the MCU, and is not the same exact one.
@@westcoastavenger and yes that’s exactly what happened with. venom in NWH. He was transported to the MCU because of Dr. Stranges spell, sat in a bar during the events of the movie, and then was teleported back.
Right now Tom Hardy is Venom, as RDJ is Ironman, as Hugh Jackman is Wolverine etc.
Doom
They did us dirty with that end credits scene in both venom 2 and nwh
Bowie’s song is Space “ODDITY”, not “Odyssey” 😉
They're clout posting so I doubt they double check their scripts for trailer breakdowns with the amount of mistakes they make.
Who cares the song stinks
@@the_cheap_ones Oo...edgy opinion.
The venom horse - absolute insanity.
I just can't understand the Mordo actor's (can't remember his name offhand) inclusion in this movie.....they could have cast ANY actor to play that military character, why *him* specifically? 🤔
I'm thinking it HAS to be intentional. There are so many other actors to play a military general, and he's gotten too much screen time already for it to be a "blink and you'll miss it" role. My theory is this is somehow before he found the Sorcerer Supreme *or* a variant of him that is yet to be injured/whatever prompted him to find her
IF I were to hazard a guess, OP, I'd have to say that the inclusion of a Mordo variant is done deliberately because of the line he said at the end of the first Dr. Strange movie where he muses that there's too many magic users. Maybe he had knowledge of Strange's spell that went pear shaped, and he's now involved in this universe trying to track him down OR trying to sew up loose threads that were left behind when the spell went all caca.
I can't see him being used because they couldn't cast literally anyone else for that role, especially knowing he was already Mordo in the MCU.
Like you, I believe that the casting was done with intent and purpose. He wasn't cast just because no one else would work.
Maybe he are in debt in some cassino and needed the money idk
@@ZuriBirminghamI don’t think Sony has licensing for Mordo. So I’m pretty sure this is actually chiwetel ejiofor playing a completely different character sadly.
They'll bait and switch and it'll be Terrence Howard when the film comes out 😂
"It shouldn't have been the "Something to do with Spider-Man" universe, it should have been the "Everything to do with Venom" universe."
No disagreement there.
That “something to do with Spider-Man” is so cringe 😂
Not if you look at it as Keaton breaking the 4th wall as an inside joke to the audience 😂😂😂.
@@Byronic19134He should have said "Something to do with Birdman"
But the Something to do With Spider-Man, I think Universe is so funny😂
SWS:ITU for short
There won't be Spider-man, Sony doesn't like giving fans what we want
I hope that the MCU spider- man eventually bond to the symbiote in avengers secret wars.
"No te pierdas" on its own means "don't get lost". If it had said "no te pierdas el show" for example, then it would mean "don't miss the show"
I’m convinced that the scene of them revisiting the bar from the NWH Post-Credit scene is actually a red herring that will not show up in this film at all, similar to much of the teases in the trailer for Morbius.
Last dance refers to his last movie as a babyface. Looking forward to a heel turn.
PLEAASE
"The Last Dance" is probably referring to the last take Sony is going run with Venom before they sell it to Disney
Nah it’s referring to the dance he’s going to have with ms Cheng
Sony will never sell the rights back willingly
Imagine Sony owns Marvels rights, their movies will be like based on the comics, so accurately.
A 'Kraven's Last Hunt' adaptation is something I have been talking about for a long time. That was absolutely one of the better Spider-Man story lines spanning three of the comic book titles. They could easily make a solid trilogy of films from that story.
Lol I caught that “he’s your ward” reference talking about Peter Parker…Dr. Strange from infinity War sees you, Ryan! Lol
Remember Connors was from Amazing Spider-Man and you established that Venom should be in that same universe.... so it would make sense it would be him Living life as he got a 2nd chance.
why do i have the feeling they gonna make this a car crash where the parents of peter die and doc connors lost his arm trying to save peters parents
Exactly my thoughts! I just said to myself, "we're gonna see him lose his arm in a car accident in that scene for sure. "
Call back to iron mans parents dying the same way??? Maybe different universe? Who knows
@@dopedswaggproduction and steven strange losing his wife... im starting to think the "carcrash" is a nexus point 🤣😋
SYMBIOTE IS LIFE!
Please include Black Cat in Spider-Man 4.
Venom left two parts of itself. Both bars got a deposit. Carnage left a part of itself for the detective. Maybe the story is Venom is actually dropping parts of itself everywhere.
The hive mind is connected across universes after all
@@DQNPRSN exactly
This kind of exactly what I said. Maybe my post ended up on the bottom and no one saw it. But I agree. It would be an easy way to have a Venom or Variant in every Reality. Also to bring him into the MCU
@@anthonybarbierojr.4306 never saw it. Sony is dumb but not entirely stupid. They couldn’t just not use the symbiote from Venom crossing over. Honestly think that was the plan the whole time. Venom was never meant to stay (in his current iteration).
I fucking love Tommy. I hope Ryan continues to invite him on to chat. He's fucking hilarious! And has that care free, charming big brother type of vibe
New rockstars fucked up getting rid of mt and tommy. The two with the most personality.
@@gabrielruiz219 💯 💯 💯
@@gabrielruiz219their loss
@@gabrielruiz219 seems like they got so big its mostly about the nr brand rather than the creators, save for eric who seems to be the face of the channel. its a business after all
venom being so excited is one of the best parts of the trailer imo
Dock Ock Spider-man movie? That's insane, that comic run lasted over a year! You can't possibly give us doc ock as Spider-man in one movie, you have to set up the Parker, and set up Parker''s death / loss of his body in a way that we actually care about Parker, and then set up Parker's redemption when he gets his body back. That's a mini-series, or two seasons or at least 2 or 3 movies and you'd still be cutting out loads of the story to make it work. That's CRAZY.
I rather they do ben Riley instead of miles Morales. IMO not superior spiderman
I reckon hes the same bartender whos just having a drink after it had closed and so hes sat on the other side
Same clothes and just has his hair down instead of tied back. I think he's wracking his brain on what he's just seen and seeing.
I’m so sad man I love Tom hardy as venom I dont want it to end I wish marvel owned this franchise they would’ve got best out of hardy and venom !
So true
The “Something to do with Spider-Man, I think” Universe 🤣. Love it when Colton, Tommy, and Briana are on. Like Ryan, they have some of the most fair/objective, and entertaining commentary on RUclips. General positivity is so much better than forced negativity from others.
Okay I need the something about Spider-Man shirts now.
The question I have is why did marvel upload the trailer for venom 3 but didn’t in venom or venom 2
Yeah how come nobody is talking about that? I thought I was losing my mind for a second until I searched up trailers for Kraven and the previous venom films and realized that none of them had Marvel Entertainment in them but this new trailer.
But they have Madem Web uploaded in Marvel RUclips channel, It's nothing
@@GamersLK-FanBoy oh yeah it might be nothing
It may have some connection to Peter Parker's storyline. The wish of Stan Lee hope for.
Venom 2 has a prologue in which the year set is 1996 and then says 25 years later.
What?
@@demoniccharcoal the first 7 minutes of venom 2 there is a prologue where they show a young shriek and young kasady which is set in the year 1996. Then it says present day (I went back and looked and it doesn't say 25 years) but still it would have been at least 20 years from their age differences from the past to the present....idk I wanna know why Conners is in the van
Im ready for Sony to sell the rights already 🤣
I liked Venom 2 let there be carnage I don’t care what people say but Venom 3 the last dance will be better.
oooooh, would die to see Craven`s Last Hunt made perfectly as a movie
The drama between SONY and MARVEL is a disadvantage to fans. Give fans what they want and the money will follow. Venom vs Spiderman must happen.
Love watching all three of you together. Very entertaining. Very informative. Thank you. Appreciate you
What if? Because the Venom Symbiote left in the MCU fell off of Eddie Brock then because it wasn’t attached to a host when the spell sent everyone that knew Peter Parker back to their own realities a piece of Venom was sent into all realities? Therefore ensuring a Venom in every reality.
What the hell was that giant thing with a bunch of legs?
Xenophage
Xenophages they are predators that fight symbiotes in the comics.
"this is going to sell the video" bro tommy you missed the punch on that joke mad hard. The delivery was just off HAHAHA
Spider-Man bonding with the piece left behind will break Doctor Strange’s spell
Yessir
So perhaps they've seen the new resurgence of love for Andrew Garfield's Spidey, then saw the same happen with Hayden in Star Wars so they said lets do it, make it all around that Spider-Man?
+1 for callback to epic 90's legends Erasure
Ryan, i adore you guys more than ever for the Venture Bros/Major Tom reference. This is the quality nerd content I come here for!
felt like Tommy Bechtold was gonna go into a Tim Dillon style Venom rant, felt the vibes a little bit
Watch that kid actually be Peter Parker 😂😂😂
The craziest part of the Kraven movie is that the entire life of Madam Web, from first trailer to digital release, came out in between the first two trailers.
Venom 1-3 takes place before The Amazing Spiderman films.
Dr. Connors/Lizard is traveling with young Peter Parker and his family in the van, way before becoming a doctor. This explains the two arms and the long hair to try and make him younger.
This explains why Tom Hardy’s (Eddie Brock/Venom) are not familiar with other super people. There would have been news footage of Lizard/Electro/Rhino that he would have seen before. So, yes Pre-Amazing Spiderman.
I believe the military version of Mordo in the trailer is prior to visiting The Ancient One. He mentions feeling LOST in Doctor Strange 1, before The Ancient One heels him.
(Per the bar scene) After he parts ways with Strange, does the MCU Mordo fall back into his military version perhaps looking for new mythical solutions, the symbiotes, arriving just after Eddie Brock vanishes.
Could Mordo become the MCU Venom?
That makes sense cant use Garfield so they doing the Deadpool thing when he was alive in xmen frist class kinda of way
Honestly it would make total sense for the personality as well because Peter was a vital part of Connor’s character in the TASM movies
Pea….Tear….*griffin flies by* Griffin!
If i had a Symbiote i would choose Carnage.(Who would you choose?)
Venom actually
I like venom more than carnage
@@lkayde1996 he was really cool, but i actually think riot is the best. I forgot about him earlier, but I know choose riot
I always assumed the hive mind Venom was referring to was Knull. Hmm
I mean Sony's Miles film had what we could assume is Earth 616's Prowler & all these variants have been popping up in different universes other than their own. It's possible that this is Venom's last dance in Sony's universe before he goes to MCU. Im not sure but I havent seen anything where Tom Hardy says he is done playing venom, just that this is the last film in the trilogy. Vulture gets transported into Morbius' universe after peter's 2nd attempt at the spell w/ Strange. It's possible that they tampered with those spells too much that it cause holes in other universes. Wong did say in NWH that the first spell crosses the dark realm between known & unknown meaning they don't know it's full consquences & part of that ended up being the tears in the multiverse related to Spider-Man. "The multiverse is a concept in which we know very little about" - strange. I heard that line & took it as all these Sony & MCU films exploring the multiverse are these characters figuring it out for the first time & trying to see what's causing this universal travel. It could have been peter's wish in NWH, kingpin's collider in into the spider-verse, strange & chavez's adventures into the multiverse w/ Wanda going through them as well, Beast popping up in the Marvels ending. All these characters don't fully understand what's happening & it's all unraveling. I think its best to take these films as we're going to have to see where they all go with this instead of trying to connect dots or try to theorize what might happen
I heard a rumor when Venom 3 was announced that it would dive a little into the multiverse. If that's true it could explain the confusion presented in the trailer.
Don't forget there's been a lot of evidence that Sony misrepresented themselves when hiring the actors in for Massage Web, leading them to believe it was an MCU project.
I just want the Deadpool movie to have Deadpool say “well that takes care of the Fox universe. Now let’s go kill the Sony universe!” And be upset with ending up in the MCU.
Glad I'm not the only one... Glad someone finally said it...
Are they able to use Ben Riley? I could see them making Ben Riley the main Peter Parker in their universe if they can't use Peter.
I hope so 🥺 ...spiderman noir live action should be good.but scarlet spider is a favorite
You guys remember those cast and crew shirts from a while back with the green scratch marks and the green 3? I think maybe that wasn’t lasher but the lizard instead.
Maybe Sony put that whole bar scene in the trailer just to fuck with us and that scene is never in the film.
They could skirt the Chiwetel issue by only referring to his Venom character as ‘Karl’. No last name, no title, no allusion to sorcery. This would give Sony plausible deniability and let the audience make the connection themselves.
Now that Madame Webb is out, I'm less afraid to say I enjoyed Morbius haha
THANKS for this, ScreenCrush Gang!!!! And great commentary at the end, Ryan!!!!
In this movie i believe Kurt Connors Lizard is a variant from the Cheech and Chong universe
The end of the last Indiana Jones movie was set in Syracuse, Sicily. With the Romans siegeing the city. It was a Greek colony city, but was part of Rome after. Archimedes designed defenses like catapults to defend the city, but was killed when it was captured despite the Roman general ordering he be spared
So does this mean venom is never going to be in another movie, or the venom movies are done, but he will be in other movies like the Spiderman ones?
Who knows because marvel and sony are not in sync
I think the foundation is going to make symbiote soldier similar to agent venom.
Tbh I think marvel is doing this movie too cuz when I was at the movies watching the bad boys new movie the trailer for venom popped up n it said one of the studios that is associated with the movie is marvel n it was just yesterday night
What if mordo is just hiding his abilities like Martian man hunter
I don't have any in-depth knowledge of how all of this works, but I have a hard time believing Fiege didn't see NWH before it was released. Like, how could Sony have tricked him with that post credit scene?
11:11 never noticed how much this character looks like Negan from the Walking Dead Sereis
OMG how have I only just subscribed???? I've been watching you consistently for years
To suggest that KF wasn't fully aware and on board with Venom left behind is ludicrous. It's fully possible that Venom was "shedding" which is why he left it behind in the MCU and he could have left some behind in the Venomverse too.
People are confused about the same actors playing different parts, but they forget that Aaron Taylor Johnson is in the upcoming Kraven film by Sony. Now he has already appeared in the MCU, as a completely different character.
"Don't get lost" is a more common translation for "No te pierdas".
Military guy enters bar following a lead on Eddie and a light shines on the bar table and this piece of Venom appears. Cut scene...
Thank you to the beautiful person that threw that Venture reference in there! Earned a jolly thumbs up
Colton Ogburn is right, the child in the film is really supposed to be a 10-year-old Peter Parker. This has to imply that the Venom, Morbius, Madame Web and Kraven films all take place in a slightly different universe from The Amazing Spider-Man films. Peter was already 17 in the first Amazing Spider-Man film and is an adult by the time he returns to his universe at the end of No Way Home, so I don't know what Sony is trying to do. The only thing I can think of is that Venom The Last Dance takes place 10 years after Madame Web, since Peter Parker is a newborn at the end of the film.
Tommy when mia from breakroom good to see him on my fav breakdown channel ❤
"No te pierdas" does not translate to "Don't miss out", it actually means "Don't get Lost"
New Rockstars said "with Sony assume ineptitude and not 4D chess" and I totally agree lol.
I loved how goofy that We are Venom part was
I like how Colton took out his earpiece to continue the gag that he doesn't know he's in a TV 😂
I thought Morbius and Madame Web were already in the same universe as Tom Harry's Venom.
They could be but in madame web Peter was born in 2003 but supposedly Peter will be 10 years old in venom 3 in 2020 explain that also when venom and Eddie went back to earth 688B venom could’ve shed another piece of himself at the bar where that agency captured that one not the one in the MCU
I am excited for the movie and the direction I think that Sony is going. It feels like Sony said are we gonna sale or take a shot at this. I think they're taking a shot to clean it up and continue forward. Let's hope.
I like the theory that The Venom movies take place in the 90s, but I'm pretty sure they hinted at it being around 2018-2020 in both movies. Andy Serkis even said the prologue of LTBC (which happened in 1996) took place 25 years prior to the events of the film.
That tommy pitch for a sceen crush short film was great
lmfaooo I love how Colton takes out his earphones pretending they started to malfunction when his intro was going on.
I agree, Ryan. Sony needs to grow a pair and do something, like they have with the Spiderverse, that will turn everything upside down while still drawing us into the characters and their struggles. Good storytelling will sell itself🤷♂️
In checking IMDB, Chiwetel Ejiofor (among others) doesn’t have a character name.
I so want it to be Karl Mordo, even if it’s never mentioned.
THANK YOU RYAN!
All my friends were getting mad about Christo playing the bartender and I’ve been saying he was a variant!
The bar scene is probably not even in Venom 3. Just marketing from Sony
Miss Chen has a nice pair of stems
Not only Chiwetel Ejiofor plays Mordo in the MCU, but also Russel Crowe is playing Kraven's father in that movie. Russel Crowe is Zeus in the MCU.
Even if this actually is the last Venom movie, that doesn't mean that he can't be in like a billion teamup movies, or as a cameo role. Look at Iron Man. The final movie was directly after the first Avengers movie, but Tony was still around for like a hundred movies after that.
This looks way better than the second. 1st being the best
I would love it if lizard is from another universe and the tva just turn up
That means "doing get lost" or "don't lose yourself"
My hope for the No Way Home post credit scene with the Symbiote being left behind was for Peter Parker to end up with the black suit in Secret Wars. The dream would be that the scene with Chitwel's character is part of Earth 616's scientific division of a military branch that has been tasked to contain the Symbiote. They eventually use it to make suits for space or something and when the final incursion happens that creates Battleworld, that tech is left in a ship that Peter and some other heroes stumble across to get new suits and boom Spider-Man in the black suit for Secret Wars and since it took awhile for the comics to say the suit was the Venom symbiote they would do the same in the MCU so when Marvel finally rips Spider-Man and all their characters away from Sony they can create an actual Venom storyline that works and respects the comics and us fans.
Excellent video, and I agree with Ryan - the April fools video about Madame Web was one of my favorites!
2:02 I thought this meant "don't lose yourself"