Warehouse Guitar Speakers Shootout! | ET10, Green Beret 10 and G10A | Fender 68 Custom Vibro Champ

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  • Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024

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  • @jw112mail
    @jw112mail Год назад +23

    I like the Stock speaker

  • @kevinschuckvk
    @kevinschuckvk Год назад +10

    The green beret was my fav but actually followed by the OG speaker in close second. killer video dude!

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  Год назад

      Totally! I honestly agree. I think the Green Beret and ET10 brought some cool textures, specifically in the dirty tones, but I was impressed with the pairing of the stock speaker. Turns out it was well-matched to this amp.

  • @Dorachagi1
    @Dorachagi1 Год назад +11

    What a difference! Of the WGS speakers I preferred the Green Beret, but really liked the Celestion a lot as well, between those two it's very close for me.

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  Год назад +5

      That's kind of where I arrived too, to be honest. I'm leaning Green Beret after the whole experiment, mainly because I like the driven tones a bit better. More full/rich breakup. And the cleans are close, but there is a nice texture to the GB that adds something interesting to both clean and dirty.

    • @ElyRiverBlues
      @ElyRiverBlues Год назад +1

      That's what my ears told me as well. I'm keeping the original speaker in mine - it's very well suited to the amp, which it should be tbh!

    • @christopherquine
      @christopherquine 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@AmbientEndeavors Awesome comparison. I like the GB too. Was it 4 ohm?

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  7 месяцев назад +1

      @@christopherquine yes, all were 4 ohm to match the amps load req. Thanks for watching!

    • @ver251209
      @ver251209 7 месяцев назад

      Same

  • @mikeyohe4750
    @mikeyohe4750 6 месяцев назад +3

    The Green Beret has a hi fi sound - adds depth and dimension. Celestion 10-30 is number 2.

  • @tctrio
    @tctrio Год назад +8

    Dang, the exact amp that I was considering swapping the speaker out of! Incredible timing. 🙌

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  Год назад +1

      Oh right on! How does this affect your thinking!?

    • @tctrio
      @tctrio Год назад +1

      @@AmbientEndeavors It reinforces that swapping the Ten 30 is a great idea. 🤣 I actually was leaning toward the ET10, but I'm a little surprised at how boxy it sounds compared to the other two IMO. I was inbetween the WGS ET10 and the Jupiter 10SC, but the Green Beret was my favorite of these, so that may have to be the one to consider against the Jupiter.

    • @westinclinard8189
      @westinclinard8189 Месяц назад +1

      what did you end up putting in it?

  • @RICO_SUAVE21
    @RICO_SUAVE21 Год назад +7

    Each speaker was drastically different to my ears. I liked the stock speaker the best.. but with that said the WGS speakers sound new/stiff/unbroken-in.. I think all the speakers will sound even better once their very nicely broken in and smooth out a bit… Also, I wonder how different combinations of those speakers would sound in a 2x12 cab?

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  Год назад

      Both great points. The stock speaker does have a good 10+ hr head start, and I agree it holds its own! I committed to the green beret and might have to do a follow up after I’ve broken it in a bit more.

  • @Frankinsteinguitar
    @Frankinsteinguitar 6 месяцев назад +2

    Speaker comparisons are tough with new speakers as each will change tone as they break in with playing. All new speakers sound crisp and trebly until their surrounds soften up with use.

  • @TheSkinwizard
    @TheSkinwizard Год назад +4

    These speakers are made in a tiny town in KY where I live.. wild!

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  Год назад

      Paducah! I was through there on tour years back, nice little town :)

  • @GiantPinhead
    @GiantPinhead Год назад +4

    Great video. Your playing is wonderful. To my ears the AlNiCo speaker sounds more musical and exciting than the two WGS ceramics. The tone is sweeter and your playing sounded more dynamic, almost like a blanket had been taken off the amp. By far my favorite. The stock Celestion sounded pretty good to me, and I like it better than the two WGS ceramics.
    Maybe not surprisingly I put a WGS AlNiCo 8" in my 64 Vibro Champ and it sounds superb.

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  Год назад

      Thanks! Yeah the alnico was so distinct when I popped that in. Definitely more airy top end as you kind of described. I did like the breakup of the Green Beret but the stock Cele sounded sweet across most of the gain sweep.

  • @detlord86
    @detlord86 15 дней назад

    Crazy but after all, the stock Celestion was the best clean to my ears. The Green. Beret sounds great for the dirty tones!

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  15 дней назад

      tend to agree! I was impressed with the stock pairing. I too like the GB for gritty tones, it added some complexity to the breakup, to my ears.

  • @tomcarmody5471
    @tomcarmody5471 Месяц назад +1

    Well done video, very easy to jump back and forth. I liked the stock the best. It was the most Fendery.

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching ! Yeah the stock speaker really fits the amp well.

  • @swervature
    @swervature Год назад +1

    And yet there're still people who believe a speaker is a speaker is a speaker. When we were kids we'd find the rattiest stereo speakers we could find at the pawn shop down the street and put them in our ratty old amps, just to see what it would take to blow one out, lol. Got a lot of great tones out of a few of them before they died.
    Great comparisons!

  • @larrys009
    @larrys009 10 месяцев назад +6

    Nothing wrong with the stock speaker....but....if I were going to pick one to swap in...I would pick the Green Beret.
    Nice work!!

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  10 месяцев назад +1

      thanks for watching! That's the one I stuck with after the vid. I really loved the breakup from the GB

  • @natman6905
    @natman6905 Год назад +2

    I've been saying for years that the two biggest upgrades you can make are pickups and speakers. No need to change guitar or amp (necessarily). They are also the least expensive changes to get the tone you're after...

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  Год назад

      It certainly is an oft overlooked modification. There’s a lot of variation that comes from a speaker swap in terms of freq response, headroom/breakup, etc

  • @ramilrodriguez8340
    @ramilrodriguez8340 11 месяцев назад +3

    G10A all the way!! Actually, after I listened to the comparison few times have to say that my favorites on the clean are the celestion and the g10a followed by the green and et10 last. Overdriven green first, then g10a, then et10 and celestion last. Thinking about possibilities setting the eq to each speaker to taste, I would probably take the green because I liked the character of the low end and I believe you can dial the bass knob higher and get more punchy low end without been flabby (cleans would’ve sound better to me with bass knob higher than where it was), the mids were the most beautiful to my taste and the top end is sweet. Thinking about proper speaker to match the amp I would take the g10a. The celestion sounds very good but the low end felt kind of too loose to my liking on the overdriven sound. I guess that the et10 can sound way better with the amp eq different (more bass, more treble).

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  11 месяцев назад +1

      all really good observations! The G10A feels polarizing to me, and it's the most unique to my ears. It has a bit of that honky vintage Fender feel (that likely suits these old amps well, but that I personally don't love). The GB was the one for me, mainly because I liked the way it broke up the best, and it retained a good amount of the sparkle/clarity in the cleans as well. You're right, a lot of it can be affected by some EQ knob turns too. Thanks for watching!

  • @RdamplificationUk1
    @RdamplificationUk1 4 месяца назад +2

    The metal cage is fitted for the amp to be compliant with CE and UKCA. Hot tubes are classified as a hazard also, direct access to the tube sockets, if amp is on, is also a hazard with the user potentially being exposed to lethal high voltage. That is why nearly all amp manufacturers are having to provide some physical protection around tubes now.

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  4 месяца назад

      ah! That makes a ton of sense - thanks for the info.

    • @robertparkerjratx
      @robertparkerjratx 19 дней назад

      See, in America, we were all under the impression it was solely because people were continuously stealing tubes out of amps in music shops. 😂🇺🇸

    • @RdamplificationUk1
      @RdamplificationUk1 19 дней назад

      @@robertparkerjratx there is that too :)

  • @craigcooper2430
    @craigcooper2430 6 месяцев назад +2

    Stock or GB 👍🏻

  • @Lesjaye
    @Lesjaye 6 месяцев назад +3

    Stock 10-30 speaker rules!!

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  6 месяцев назад

      it's surprisingly good. Pairs well with this amp.

    • @hillelmusic
      @hillelmusic 5 месяцев назад

      It really does. The Green and the G10 each have nice qualities in their own right, but overall I love the character and vibe of the stock

  • @Lowtech14
    @Lowtech14 10 месяцев назад +1

    Cool comparison. My fave tone was the E10 dirty. Hard to believe that much difference, aside from db’s, between 5 and 7 on the volume knob.

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  10 месяцев назад

      Totally agree! That's really the cross-over point for these little Champs - great cleans up to about 5, and then a bit past that and you can dig in and get great small-amp breakup!

  • @LeeHoMusic
    @LeeHoMusic Год назад +1

    Incredible.... huge difference between the speakers....

  • @paresmi
    @paresmi Год назад +1

    Lovely! Thanks for the comparison. I modded my VCR to run a 5881 at 8ohm 10watts with bigger output transformer and in my quest for the right 10” 8ohm speaker I ended up back and happy with an 8ohm Ten 30. I dig the sound of that green beret though, might have to give that a go at some point.

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  Год назад

      Very cool! I’ll have to look into that mod. I arrived at the green beret because I slightly preferred its breakup sounds, but the stock speaker sure holds its own!

  • @JustinP74
    @JustinP74 Месяц назад +1

    Hmm, if you want a Vox go with the ET10 or G10A. If you really feel the need to swap, then I'd go with the Green Beret. Personally, stock is best flavor. Kudos to fender for speaker selection!

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  Месяц назад

      Agreed they really seem to have got it right for this one!

  • @dallasblues74
    @dallasblues74 29 дней назад +1

    I like the Celestion best followed by the Alnico.

  • @worldgonewrong2049
    @worldgonewrong2049 Месяц назад

    In order of preference (clean and dirty): Green Beret, Stock Speaker, Alnico, ET10. Good demo but gotta turn down that reverb when you're cranking the amp!

  • @misterknightowlandco
    @misterknightowlandco 4 месяца назад

    The most important part of any rig is the least considered part… the speaker. I know most of us, myself included, find it more fun to try new amps, pedals and guitars, but changing the speaker will get you the most drastic results.

  • @ScottMcCulloughBmax419
    @ScottMcCulloughBmax419 5 месяцев назад

    All the WGS speakers sounded like they needed a few hours of playing to loosen up the surrounds and spiders. I've learned never to judge a speaker until it's at least partly broken in so it can reveal its true voice. With that said, the G10A really tickled my ears. Its detail and depth out of the box hinted that it would sound amazing once it had broken in. Nice playing, BTW!

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  5 месяцев назад +1

      hey thanks ! yours and other comments make me want to circle back to each speaker and break em in a bit. I'm running the Green Beret at the moment and it's continuing to mellow out as I play it more.

  • @manueldjeribi488
    @manueldjeribi488 5 месяцев назад +1

    the stock speaker offers the Fender true clean sound. When it comes to distortion, you just have to adapt the settings.

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  5 месяцев назад

      I think the original speaker makes a great pairing for this amp as well.

  • @MrInfinite43
    @MrInfinite43 Год назад +1

    Ive ALMOST changed out my Ten 30s on my 68' Vibrolux RI, many times.......but that sweet rolled off top end works well w my amp, if I need more chime, the bright switch does the trick, but if my amp didnt have that switch, Id go the Green Beret for the greenback sound or the G10a, nice and fuzzy.

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  Год назад

      Totally, I was kind of amazed at how the stock speaker stood up. I actually filmed all the WGS stuff before popping the original back in and man it is a good fit. I think I slightly prefer the breakup of the Green Beret, so it stayed in. That G10a rest gives a unique vibe. Thanks for watching!

  • @misterreality
    @misterreality 9 месяцев назад

    Great comparison. I was thinking of experimenting and switching out the stock speaker, but I actually think it sounds the best. The other speakers seem to lack that punch and clarity. The 10 30 sounds great here.

  • @ianwalker6453
    @ianwalker6453 10 месяцев назад +1

    Celestion for me!

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  10 месяцев назад

      I was surprised how good that stock speaker sounded in comparison! Each of the 4 give a unique flavor though.

  • @danpugatch
    @danpugatch 7 месяцев назад

    Just got the amp 5 days ago and i love the stock speaker although watching this video if i was to do a swap id go with yhe ET110.

  • @tjnugent62
    @tjnugent62 8 месяцев назад +1

    The alnico sounds new. They need 20 hours to break in for the alnico to sound warm. They sound dull at first. How much playing time is on the alnico?

  • @mikeenos4040
    @mikeenos4040 Месяц назад

    Would be nice if you had single coils also

  • @DavidGarcia-pi9wn
    @DavidGarcia-pi9wn 7 месяцев назад +1

    I wanna hear the eminence allesandro speakers
    Made my shrill 65 deluxe reverb sound like the vintage deluxe reverbs I tried at Norma rare guitars
    Extremly fender, still chimney and beautiful
    Just made thit fender sound broken in after decades of playing
    The wgs veteran turns this amp into a low volume rock machine
    I love having incredible tones at speaking volumes

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  7 месяцев назад

      Oo that sounds like something I’d be into!

  • @neilkorsgaard
    @neilkorsgaard 7 дней назад +1

    What a nice guitar! What kind is it?

  • @MW47742
    @MW47742 Год назад +4

    The Celestion sounds best. The others are Ok, but there is no need to swap speakers.

  • @traviscrown9189
    @traviscrown9189 2 месяца назад

    Green beret was more complete. Sounded great clean and dirty. Stock speaker after that.

  • @mikeenos4040
    @mikeenos4040 Месяц назад +1

    I would stay with the original speaker.
    If i had to choose it would be the green beret its the closest to the original

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  Месяц назад

      I feel very similarly. I like the breakup characteristics of the GB

  • @mikeenos4040
    @mikeenos4040 Месяц назад +1

    I assume they were all 4ohm speakers ?

  • @waynedoherty7758
    @waynedoherty7758 Год назад

    wow
    WGS ET10 - An almost voxy vibe in single string distortion with clarity
    WGS Greenback - Marchally vibes
    WGS G10A - A bigger blackface vibe
    I just ordered a WGS Veteran 10, but this is seriously making me consider the G10A instead for handling octave down fuzz. You don't have the Veteran in this roundup but im expecting it to give my vibrochamp a sweeter 'champy' nature. Less sensitive, great breakup, but may possibly still flub out with octave down fuzz 🤔

    • @DavidGarcia-pi9wn
      @DavidGarcia-pi9wn 7 месяцев назад

      Hey brother what did you think of the veteran 30?
      I’m trying to get a less shrill overdriven tone from my champ
      I have a jazzmaster and even messing with the tone settings it makes my ears bleed

    • @waynedoherty7758
      @waynedoherty7758 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@DavidGarcia-pi9wnI love it.
      Doesn’t go as low as the stock, but doesn’t flub out. The G10A would likely be a better choice for low girthy fuzz.
      But the veteran breaks up really easily and sounds amazing in a soft lofi way.
      I run the volume between 4.5 and 6 with an attenuator to shave off a few db.
      It used to sound a bit harsh below 4, but I haven’t tried going that low since the speaker swap to know if it helps in that department

    • @DavidGarcia-pi9wn
      @DavidGarcia-pi9wn 7 месяцев назад

      @@waynedoherty7758 thanks a ton
      I can usually play on 4-5 on the stock speaker
      My guitar just had a ton of Uber shrill upper end harmonic content and I was hoping the veteran was warm enough to atleast lower those while giving me more mids
      I like the hi fi nature of the amp so I think imma try to check some of the allesandro stuff

  • @kbgorden
    @kbgorden 6 месяцев назад

    Go Twins!

  • @AmpleWarning
    @AmpleWarning Год назад +1

    I use one of these amps, absolutely love it. I want to use it in a live setting with a drummer, and think I need a bit more volume/headroom... would a speaker swap help for this? Alternatively, do you think using a vibro champ to drive an external cabinet e.g. 2x10 would do the job? Not looking for clean headroom. Thanks

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  Год назад +1

      great question. I found the green beret to be the best for breakup. there wasn't a big difference in overall volume among the three, and maybe a subtle bump in volume from the stock speaker.
      regarding running through an external cab, yes you'd likely hear a significant volume bump running through more or bigger speakers. I run a vintage champ through a 12" combo cabinet and it sounds huge and much louder than the stock 8".

  • @GuajoloteGonzales
    @GuajoloteGonzales 5 месяцев назад

    Clean there's no much of a difference, as usual, but i will describe how they sounded (to me, at least):
    The Celestion Ten 30: Quite tiny and lacking in body/depth, also it has a little bit of fizziness that i didn't like, but at least, the mids didn't sounded boxy or unbalanced.
    The WGS ET10: An improvement over the Celestion, full bodied response and no fizz, also, quite hi-fi.
    The WGS Green Beret: Very similar to the ET10 in general, maybe a little bit more hi-fi.
    The WGS G10A: Full bodied response, but with a quite annoying fizziness, typical of AlNiCo speakers.

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  5 месяцев назад

      a great synopsis!
      I'm glad you mentioned the fizz of the alnico being a typical thing - I couldn't get past that myself either. perhaps it mellows after being broken in...but it's a definite "thing" and not one I'm fond of at least in this amp. Thanks for watching and chiming in!

  • @brandonjackson5865
    @brandonjackson5865 11 месяцев назад

    Dude, how many Vibro Champs you got ? I’m not hating just jealous. The old white one is gorgeous, I was hoping that was something Fender had done a run of or something, but nope. I think it would be cool for them to offer the current reissue in some different color combinations like they’ve done with the blues jr from time to time. Your old white one is beautiful man , what’s the story on it ? Is it an actual Fender that’s been redone or is it some boutique build ? I’m a Marshall guy myself, but I’ve been wanting one those Vibro Champs since I first heard one, they sound great clean, but man they get nasty in a different way than most Fenders when cranked.

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  11 месяцев назад +2

      an embarrassing number. I'm a hoarder / collector of those specifically. if you get in touch I'll likely make you a good deal on one ;) I think I have 5.
      The white one was a rehoused 70s VC I put in a MojoTone 1x10. It's so great, the alnico 10 really makes it sing. I might have to do a comparison vid of it and the new 68 custom.

  • @oliversplace263
    @oliversplace263 Год назад

    Two Rock uses these for their cabs, correct?

  • @ElyRiverBlues
    @ElyRiverBlues Год назад +1

    Were all the WGS speakers 4ohm?

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  Год назад +1

      Yes! All 4 ohm.

    • @ElyRiverBlues
      @ElyRiverBlues Год назад +2

      @@AmbientEndeavors I ran mine through a Marshall 4x12 cab the other week using the 4ohm input...now that's some serious speaker upgrade! Sounded huge! 🙂

  • @richardwalley2862
    @richardwalley2862 Год назад

    Would you say one speaker had noticeably more bass?

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  Год назад

      I'd say the bass response on the ceramics was all fairly similar, and those a bit more prominent low end than the alnico , but not major differences. There's not a ton of low-end in these champ circuits innately.

  • @hillelmusic
    @hillelmusic 5 месяцев назад

    Anyone else prefer the sound of the stock speaker?

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  5 месяцев назад

      Was honestly impressed by it yea! It's a near toss-up between stock and the Green Beret. I kept the GB in because the overdriven tones were a little more rich to my ears.

    • @andreasocarroll5390
      @andreasocarroll5390 5 месяцев назад

      I prefer stock too!

  • @traviscrown9189
    @traviscrown9189 2 месяца назад

    Putting a British speaker in an American style amp just sounds wrong.

    • @AmbientEndeavors
      @AmbientEndeavors  2 месяца назад

      Idk. I love the Creamback I have in my Princeton.

    • @johnbose7454
      @johnbose7454 6 дней назад

      @@AmbientEndeavors
      Any speaker in any type of amp. It’s all subjective and sometimes cool surprises happen like the creamback in your Princeton. A good sounding speaker will improve most any amp. Regardless of type

  • @MoreThan_Bob1776
    @MoreThan_Bob1776 9 месяцев назад

    Damn this was so fun to watch!!!
    🚬🥃🎚️📻🎵🧲🫀👍