The Mystery Of MacBook Speakers
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
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MacBook Speakers are so far ahead of everything else out there.
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Apple DOMINATES the audio game so hard.
Can your speakers/headphones tell the difference from that early recorded sample?
First to comment on your comment. yeay
Yes even on my pixel 4a I can clearly hear the difference
yeah its a shame the only close comparison might be dell xps but still the bass and brightness on apple is amazing
I could clearly tell the difference on a JBL Flip 5
but Samsung and apple are identical in phone loudspeaker (at least in samsung flagship phones). i dont know audio quality of Samsung laptops
The most surprising thing for me is that, many audio centric brands sign off and put their logo on these devices, Bang and Olufsen, Dolby... The 2015 chassis MacBook Air had better sound than a newer HP Spectre with B&O speakers, I think.
Ya. The audio brand logos and “certification” we see on laptops are pretty much worthless from what I’ve seen. If anything, the presence of those Audio brands on a device is a just a warning sign that they’ll probably suck lol
Just marketing gimmicks…like Dolby Atmos on sound-bars 😅😂
The B&O on my 2019 Spectre x360 15t gem cut absolutely sucks. It's tinny and crackly, everything sounds like garbage. My new 2021 MBP 16" is light years ahead.
I have a spectre and it sounds like a string between two aluminum cans.
I tweaked both the B&O app and Dolby Access to make the laptop louder and beefier but it still sounds like shit.
HP stands for Hijuep*ta in my language.
Which is basically like just a "son of a b*tch"
That huge audio lab they invested in outside Apple Park just keeps paying off. Tons of modeling, tons of testing, tons of tuning, and sharing that across the whole speaker and mic line. Crazy it took so long, but the audio team is becoming as important as the camera team and I'm here for it
Nice to see you here
On tablets Apple has better speakers as well (m1 ipad pro sounds noticeably better than the best android tablet samsung galaxy s8 ultra). And for me audio is a BIG deal!
I think Rene has hit the nail on the head here as to why Macbook speakers are so good. The fact apple makes dedicated audio hardware and that audio lab makes it inevitable that any speakers from any apple device will end up being great in their particular category. The only other laptop hardware manufacturer that I can currently think of that makes non gaming headphones would be Microsoft themselves with the surface headphones/ buds. My question to Rene and Dave would be if they expect Microsoft themselves to catch up to apple in the laptop audio department considering the fact they do make and sell headphones too?
@@Iwaslemon87 Great Question!
You should post it as a separate Comment!
Already noticed with their 12" MacBook 2015 that sound seemed to come from the besides you. They have their sets of speakers tweaked in that well.
As an Audio Engineer who frequently watches tech reviews, Most people are not aware of how to explain audio and acoustics to a general consumer let alone professionals shopping for new tech. Thank you for your concise and effective explanation of this topic
not to mention the slightly dodgy graphs haha
is this problem software or hardware related ?
same thoughts. brilliant explanation.
I was quite persuaded by a lot of self acclaimed audiophiles, Who like to say that good sound is not just good bass i agree somehat, but they make bass heads sound like stupid techno nerds
@@Karim-uknwmg702 Both, but which one more, idk. I will say though In portable devices, software matters a LOT more it's called psychoacoustics where you use tricks to make the speaker sound bigger/larger than it actually is.
Reviews are fine and all, but you should make more content like this. This is good.
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In the words of Dave.. This is good stuff.
@@AxxLAfriku don’t drop out mate
yeah, we need more quantification reviews like this. I mean any reviewer can say "this is good this is bad" on stuff, but measurement by numbers and backed up by science makes the review much more dependable.
Even you're right he should make more
This was great that you measured it. MacBook speakers are just so great.
plenty of great windows laptop speakers too. My tiny 13inch asus sounds like a proper desktop setup, those speakers are designed/tuned by harman/kardon!!
@@manuelight lol
@@manuelight they just paid harman kardon to use their brand in fact all audio from windows laptop is realtek audio
@@manuelight nope
@@manuelight Care to compare those laptop speakers to the 14" MBP? 😆
When I upgraded my 2009 MBP to a 2021 M1 MBP, the speakers are what surprised me the most. They are insanely impressive! The sound isn’t just loud, it’s rich and deep too. It sounds better than my TV.
I have an M1 mac, 1st macbook. Previously had XPS, I have like Sony, Audio Technica headphones since I'm allergic for the laptop sound and I was constantly using them. Since I bought the M1 I think I had to use them twice because my wife wouldn't stop speaking :D
No offense, but your tv must be pretty trash
Top brand TV's also have really bad audio now.
It's like the manufacturers are so confident that buyers are either deaf or will also buy soundbar/speakers themselves.
@@williamg7138 most TVs have bad audio, I think they do it because, customers will anyway install external audio systems
How small are the holes on the MacBook Air M1 speaker grills
You’re the first channel I’ve ever seen to quantify speakers like this and show visually comparable frequency response curves. Super cool stuff. Great video
*literally every music production channel ever
@@PranshuNigam11 lol as a creative director I hate watching audio production channels because they’re so in the weeds even for someone that loves audio and uses it for work. Yes they need to be for their audience but most people aren’t their audience whereas Dave has a super broad generic audience and he breaks it down so easily.
THIS
Exactly
Totally agree.
As an audio engineer I found this video very interesting and I'm glad someone made a video about this. It always seemed odd why Macs have very good speaker systems while Windows laptops promote Dolby Atmos, but actually still sound not even close to Macs.
I still want to point out some things on the graphs (just some suggestions in case of future audio comparisons) :)
- The x axis begins at 80 Hz not at 20 Hz meaning the bass and sub-bass is missing entirely
> It now looks like the MBP can play every audible frequency except the lowest frequency while in reality the MBP cuts off at the base frequency of low human voices while the graph doesn't show the bass (< 80 Hz)
- Every line should be normalized to hit the same maximum for showing the frequency response except if it is the intention to also show its max loudness compared to others
> It can be quite misleading since you want to compare the frequency response and not the max loudness. Normalizing them makes it easier to spot the graph's differences
- Also some kind of methodology would be great, maybe in the description or something (I guess this was a simple sine sweep at 1-2 seconds, which distance to the microphone, position)?
> That's just some good practise in general so that one could replicate the results. What would be especially interesting is, if the measurement mic is calibrated. Usually good measurement mics feature a calibration file to correct for the mics individual deviation from the ideal "neutral" sound. I'm not sure if this has or hasn't been used and without that calibration, the mic's own deviation could offset the results of the graphs in certain or all frequencies.
Software I could recommend is FuzzMeasure which gives you more control about that data. I'm not sure which software has been used for this video.
I'm happy that someone finally made a video about this. The things I've pointed out are just good practise points I've had to check while writing my research papers and I'd thought it's worth sharing. I know your videos aren't research papers and that time for such videos is limited. But maybe my feedback helps you or someone else. Keep up the awesome videos! :)
+1 on the normalization of the graphs. Seems like you can make (almost) any speaker a winner in this comparison with enough gain.
It is also very important to note that FR is not everything.
I do think he wanted to show the sensitivity of the "amplifier-speaker system" so deliberately not normalise it. But surely it should be done with more control.
How small are the holes on the MacBook Air M1 speaker grills
@@admiralhood8646 They're pretty small
I got my first MacBook pro M1 14 inch on my job. My jaws dropped when I've heard the sound from speakers. I've never heard anything like that from pc laptops.I'm sure 16 inch is even better. It's so good I don't use headphones when I can. Waiting for M2 16 inch to upgrade to.
My coworker has that 14 inch and I own my 16 inch, the difference is quite noticed. This is my first macbook btw, I'm surprised and addicted to it.
Apple always cared deeply about the stuff you can’t just put on a spec sheet. Rich audio. Fit and finish. Aluminium and glass. Big trackpad.
Steve Jobs engrained this deeply into their DNA and I hope they never lose it.
you nailed it! but windows loosers only boast about raw performance and ofc GaMiNg
@@ImpactSpace android too!
the unibody construction and glass trackpad (no more worn out patches!) are what i consider the best stuff that came out during apple's golden age. with M1, i think we're approaching a golden age 2.0
@@ImpactSpace you can use both you know. windows PC for gaming and MacBook for productivity and general use is my go to !
@@sarangkulkarni4963 this is the way
Dave, I wonder if there’s some computational audio going on, maybe built into macOS itself. I installed Windows 10 via Boot Camp on my 2019 16” MBP and noticed a huge difference when running Windows: the max volume was much quieter, and it sounded tinnier (less bassy?) in general. Might be interesting to test in a future video-running Windows or Linux, then playing audio on the same built-in Mac speakers.
I've noticed exactly this difference when running Windows via Boot Camp on on my 2018 MBP!
Interesting! It’s safe to assume that there’s at least an EQ tuned by Apple to perfectly match the speaker system.
You probably loose that EQ-profile in windows, although it should be possible recreate manually if 1) Apple provides an audio driver for Win with EQ and 2) there is no other computational stuff going on.
Apple have the ability to perfectly tune things cus they do the whole stack from hardware to software in-house, something which you definitely notice when running windows on a Mac.
This, exactly! When you run windows on it, the audio sounds terrible. Quitte like a generic Windows laptop. Even with all Apple drivers installed. So probably MacOS does something with the audio, or has a different hardware approach
i think the reason that macbooks speakers better than windows laptops is because the macOS itself.
Back in year 2000 people used a tool called DFX on Windows to enhance the audio that comes with highly compressed Real (a video format) video . It always made quite huge difference, where sound from cheap headsets and speakers became much richer and dynamic in quality, obviously a result of heavy computational modification and not as simple as an EQ profile! I think in audio world you cannot get 10 dollar worth of audio for 1 dollar worth of equipment, generally speaking. So here we have the possibilities: 1) MacBooks (Pro line) simply come with audio units that are superior in quality. 2) MacBooks aluminium body, its structure and integration can enhance the audio quality mechanically 3) MacBooks apply sort of clever DFX effect designed to make the frequency response look better in measurement and ear.
I've never personally watched a video about speakers that is this informative, thank you for the obviously large effort you put into your videos and especially this one
You don’t realize how damn good the MacBook speakers are until you hear them in person. It’s an experience in itself.
I just got the latest M1 MBP's and yes, they sound amazing. You can actually hear the bass on songs!
For real. When I got my Macbook for work and it made that first sound when it powered up I was like daaaaammnn. Truly impressive.
I remember seeing reviews before I bought my 2019 MBP 16" and hearing about how good the speakers were, but yeah, it's definitely still surprising when you actually use it yourself.
Facts
fax, just got the 16" 2021 MBP and the first time i played a song. god damn, better than the bose speakers
I love these “conversation” tech topic videos. Its a fresh air type beat from review vids but also cause dave adds details and personality that isnt replaceable.
Theres just something unique about dave2d vids that you know carry info along side his personality/tastes but yet is presented in a down to earth and dialogue opening type of way.
Great vid, love to see more of these vids 👏👏
I hope you include the audio graph in every laptop review from now on. Incredibly useful.
not useful at all, who doesn't use speakers or headphones, or earphones...
That would be great. I have a 2019 Razer Blade and the speakers are terrible! No bass and only just loud enough at max volume for my quiet living room, insane! Previous to this one I had an MSI 63VR which was way better. I'd have got another MSI if I'd known what I know now about the speakers in this one.
@@sssaaa9043 your comment makes no sense...
@@sssaaa9043 so you don't use an audio???
@@nofood1 It makes a lot of sense. He's saying most people don't use the actual laptop speakers, and use speakers/headphones instead.
Doing the entire industry a huge favor here Dave. Hopefully manufacturers can get the message!
Manufacturers cheaping out on purpose everything they think people don't care about:
My 2018 Dell Precision originally cost 2200$ (bought new old stock from eBay for 1200$ two years later) and has, for example great screen they originally charged an additional 400$ for because that is expected from a workstation but the repro is quiet and without low ends while the output from the audio jack sounds like cheapest Aliexpress MP3 player on the market, so you are pretty much stuck with wireless phones.
My old 2006 model Dell XPS got worse repro than current smartphones despite costing 2000$ and don't get me started about the screen, you probably get a better one on today's premium smart wash machine. Also, the battery died after two months of everyday use because, yet again, the manufacturer did not expect somebody will use a 17,3" gaming/multimedia laptop as a mobile device away from el. plug, so they put cheap battery with a limited number of cycles in, and called it a day...
Alienware 18 from 2014 later received a driver update with software noise canceling to deal with noise that comes from his own audio jacks, you cannot make this up, especially when you consider that despite all of this, Dell still makes some of the best Windows laptops with decent warranty service, so you can imagine the quality of components you get on average from its competitors... When you look at laptop screens from times before iPad and smartphones with IPS screens proliferated, you see the same trend of putting the cheapest possible screens even into expensive laptops as long as they were not multimedia-oriented Made in Japan Sony and Toshiba pieces or supposed built mobile workstations for graphics like Dreamcolor display on HP, PremierColor on Dells, etc.
So, yeah, Apple pushing computer manufacturers to raise the bare minimum for a long time, yet when you look at Louis Rossman's RUclips channel about his Apple repairs experience, Apple products suddenly don't look that great either, in fact, they stop looking good completely, and you still need to buy external web cameras on most of the high-priced laptops because again, manufacturers cheapening out below what you find on 100$ smartphones well until recently. One can imagine how long it takes to get the largest (so-called 1-inch sensor) from smartphones until it is put on at least 2000+$ laptops for having some resemblance of dynamic range image with decent detail that doesn't make you look like a beautifying filter put on the plastic doll...
The only way things get better is when professional and owner reviews will be pointing out these flaws because once people know about them, it is hard to pretend for users that they don't exist, while when they get fooled by the hype, users are more/very likely willing to defend manufacturer choices with various excuses (like that they don't need better repro and audio jack quality on 2000$ laptop than what is on smartphones because they won't use it anyway) just to not look stupid...
With highly customizable laptops like Panasonic FZ-55, Framework, and a few others where you can distribute the cost over a longer period by adding some components later instead of buying an all-in-one solution full of cheap components, there is perhaps some chance to get high-quality components laptops at somewhat reasonable prices even students can afford once economy of scale kicks in at least for niche desktop replacement/gaming category...
That audio experience of Dave moving through the frequencies was insane. Really cool
Simply Low pass filter
It's not the technicality of it what's impressive. Your comment is like saying "he just used PowerPoint lol" to someone who was very impressed by a college seminar. The impressive part of this video is showcasing an issue which is very real but it's very very hard to show through a yt video, not the tools he used. And we know that the bad speaker quality on laptops has been bothering Dave for a long time now, so it is nice to see him explaining something that can be abstract to people not familiar with nice quality audio in a very simple and effective way.
Edit: I think I replied to the main comment, I was trying to respond to the "It's just a low pass filter" guy.
@@Ganqes Hater spotted
@@AdityaGupta-om8ez naw, just facts. Kellan probably just has never heard a commonly used filter sweep before in a DJ set.
@@Ganqes ok
As an audio engineer, speaker cabinets are one of the most influential to the sound which not a lot of people realise, the denser and heavier it is the better the sound will be projected.
So knowing that it's understandable that the only windows laptop that sounds closer to the mac is the one with a metal body.
Brilliant content as always!!
That doesn't matter at all 🤣 Speaker cabinet inside the laptop is plastic anyway, macbook simply has the correct tuning with dsp and loudness compensation and impressive drivers with real push-push woofers
First, the sound card and how good is DA converter. Second, the type of speakers they are using. Third, crossover and eq. And the fourth, cabinet. Also, drivers might have some impact too.
As an audiophile and producer, I loved this deep dive into analyzing the MB speakers. Apple is absolutely the top dog when it comes to on-board speakers!
Apple homepod and homepod mini have great speakers. 2 of them can shake whole room.
As an audiophile myself, I can't remember the last time I use built in speakers on any laptop or TV. Even when traveling, I will use a Bluetooth headset. The only use a built-in speaker has for me is the boot up sound.
well, you dont speak for the rest. Many people love to use the onboard speakers for many things. adding that fan noise is not an issue anymore.
@@ImpactSpace agree. i sleep with earplugs on at night (loud snorers at home) and i try not to wear anything during the day so my ears can "breathe". it's nice when i can actually hear things clearly via on-board speakers. the windows laptop my office provides is half the volume of my mac when it's at full volume, and i can never hear anyone properly during a concall. yes, there are headphones and earphones. but i'd like for these to be optional, not must-haves. let's not excuse bad tech.
Audiophile/producer that uses onboard speakers LOL
So, I have been hearing about lows, mids and highs when people talk about speakers and headphones but I never quite understood them properly. This video presented these things so visually, now it all makes sense to me.
Awesome video. Great work Dave!👏
For real, I always got lost when I heard this being talked about
It may be simplified too much, but usually low is a spectrum for bass, mid for vocals and high for treble
@@nhs.14 that's probably why my ears love bass a lot with treble and the highs mixed in there
@@HShango you may like to buy a nice headset then, because I don’t think laptop speaker will come close to get flat wave on all spectrum, because iirc it’s a lot to produce sound on such a low spectrum considering how small the size of laptop speaker chamber. There is a reason why subwoofer usually is way bigger then the speaker itself.
for those wondering what the music sampled at 0:22 is. it is called No Ego - Single Third Dimension & Supermans Feinde. enjoy :)
I've heard reviewers (including Dave2D) say "X speaker is better than Y speaker", "Z's speakers are the best from the competition", and so on, but sadly we weren't given measurements or anything to show how much better it was. So I am really glad to see that you have a way to demonstrate that now to, us, the audience! Really hope that other tech reviewers start including FR graphs on devices like smartphones and laptops whenever they mention how good a device's audio is. (And if you have fell down the audiophile rabbithole like I did, yes I know that FR graphs aren't everything.)
I think the same issue affects trackpads on windows, its mind boggling how hard it is to find even a half decent trackpad. The best external trackpad for Windows are the Apple Trackpads.
Although its closer with Microsoft Precision Driver touchpads, I agree. Apple is better in terms of touchpads and speakers than 99% of Windows laptops.
Agree 100% Apple is miles ahead of anyone else with their trackpads. Even the tiny one on the Magic keyboard case for the iPad is better than pretty much any windows laptop I have used.
there's no way I can go back to a Windows notebook after life with a MacBook pro trackpad. Nothing comes close.
I'm always so frustrated using a Windows laptop trackpad. Nothing in the Windows line comes close to an Apple trackpad. Even the separate Apple trackpad device works better than a Windows trackpad.
I used to think this as well once I switched to a MacBook but nowadays there’s not all that much difference in trackpads between good windows laptops and a MacBook. My current laptop is a Zephyrus G15 and it’s trackpad is a lot better than the one I used to use on my last windows laptop in 2017 (which I used before the MacBook) and I don’t really feel all that much of a loss switching from the MacBook trackpad to the Zephyrus.
I used windows laptops all my life but recently switched to a Macbook air. I was stunned by the audio quality. When watching movies, I thought the ring bell in the scene was in my own house, because the quality was like better than real life hahaha
The spatial audio from the speakers is also absolutely amazing. It can literally project sound to appear to come from your far right or left (or behind you), waaay beyond what you'd expect from a stereo speaker setup
wait what? u mean a macbook speaker set can do that or just the airpods?
It doesn't work with speakers
Ok let’s calm down buddy. I have an MBP and it’s really good, but not stereo speaker setup good. Unless your setup is a $30 shitfest
Same experience with my MBP 13 M1, I swear it spooked me out a bit when I heard the door open on my far right only realizing it’s a sound from what I was watching. Impressssssive!
@@MrJoesquarepants SAMEEEE i was shocked on my 14" because the sound was literally coming out from.. outside the laptop?!!! literally like 15cm away from my MacBook
The most surprising thing about the MacBooks for me is the stereo imaging. I have literally heard an 'external" sound is coming from the left of me, paused a video to hear what it was, only to discover it was the Macbook producing it! It seems to vary by model as the M1 Air seems slightly more pronounced in this regard than the Pro.
I thought I was the only one that ever noticed this. I got a 2020 13 inch MacBook pro back when it was new a few years ago and was SUPER shocked at the sound quality coming from such a small laptop. Plenty bass and mids and highs are crisp and clear. Also very loud. It also sounds amazing with dolby atmos on apple music.
It's not just the frequency response. But also the amazing stereo image of the Macs which is further enhanced by headtracking.
???
The sound of the iPad Pro sometimes scares me. You can even "hear" things behind you. Their audio processing is absurd.
@@LtdJorge In the mobile department it's way closer competition though. Later Samsung tablets have amazing sound quality also, even with the effect of you hearing things behind you.
@@LtdJorge Any particular demos or movies/clips you can recommend? Got an iPad pro recently & want to test out these cool quad speakers 😎
they have headtracking just for audio? that's so cool
Even the M1 MacBook Air's speakers sound amazing. Quite an improvement over the 2013 MacBook Air I had.
In my experience my 6 years old half price acer laptop sound much better and louder than my new macbook air m1 13inch
@@kvm. my experience my iphone sounds better than my acer predator
@@thesaint5991it may be but I don't own iPhone so I can't comment on this
@@kvm. An acer laptop from 6 years ago?! That's unlikely lmao
I even prefer playing sound on my m1 mbp than my homepod when i work on my desk
Apple works hard starting from drivers to acoustics (enclosure, desk/table/room/listening distance, psychoacoustics), and add on processing to interact all those things, then integrating it all together as part of the computer design. Because they have fewer models, the ROI is much higher.
The can also be more consistent because of the few models they sell. Imagine HP testing a gazillion models for frequency response? what is surprising is that most 3-4K laptops can't keep up with a MPB from 2018
This is a very important video. I can imagine it’s been like a silent frustration for a lot of Windows creatives.
And it’s not just the speakers, it’s about the mics too. A music RUclipsr, Mary Spender, did an experiment where she simulated needing to create music in a pinch while away from her studio gear.
The results she got were very usable and of solid quality.
The only place where iMacbooks has been behind was in front-facing cameras, and I think they’re starting to face that as well.
Well this is something I've been complaining about for years, it is good to see a popular RUclipsr speaking out about it in a dedicated video. Maybe manufacturers will finally listen. The annoying thing is that a lot of people justify this by saying "who uses the external speakers on a laptop anyway, just get headphones!" but one of the reasons they are using headphones IS because the speakers suck. It is like the touchpad situation, they used to say "just get a mouse, who uses the touchpad!", fortunately manufacturers started to improve the touchpads on PC laptops for the last few years. Hopefully they will also do something about the speakers situation.
I was about to say "anyone serious about audio doesn't use the internal speakers for anything they actually care about the audio quality for", and while there is some truth to that I think you're right. Just because it's never going to be actually good quality audio coming out of the laptop speakers doesn't mean it can't at least be bearable like the MacBook speakers. I just bought a Windows laptop also so I guess I'll be more frustrated about this soon hahah
100% agreed
On point! Even for just sharing a youtube video with someone or casually watching something on the couch, most laptop speakers aren't good enough for even that. I thought I didn't care about that (same as a good trackpad) when I bought a Dell Latitude 7490 3 years ago. I recently switched back to a Macbook Pro (14 inch 2021) and damn, those things make a huge difference. I couldn't even watch some Netflix in bed with the Latitude's speakers because dialogs were so hard to understand, I was shocked at how bad those were...
@It’s not plagiarism it’s the same person You think your usage applies to most people but it does not. There are a lot of people who use the speakers on their laptops.
Yea, I love my Sennheisers, but ever since I got the 16” I don’t find myself putting them on nearly as often. Not to mention there are many situations, when using headphones is just simply off the table.
Thank you so much for featuring our song "No Ego" in your video. It is a great honor that you have chosen our song to evaluate the quality of the MacBook speakers!
This is something I’ve been saying forever. As an audio engineer and a speaker designer/fabricator these are issues that just the burn me up. Lol. Whyeee must they ALL suck ?! Apple nailed their sound years ago.
Then, you must be very qualified to answer the question. So, what would you say that Apple did from a technical standpoint, that puts them way ahead of the competition?
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@@vijeykumar7429 I'm also a loudspeaker designer. I'm guessing passive radiators & dsp action
@@vijeykumar7429 Replying to follow the response. But to add I think the situation is similar to their displays too. Idk how they do it but the contrast ratios on their displays are higher than regular displays, and it does make a noticeable difference. Both my iPad and my 13 MBP have better contrast than my Dell U2720Q 4K monitor, and that is a top of the line model. They are also the only laptop makers which have a non matte anti glare coating too which means better clarity whist still reducing reflections. I reckon apple has a few patents on their technologies and is why other manufacturers can’t catch up, simply because they don’t get access to the same technology.
@@jesselam5867 agreed about the color accuracy and contrast ratio. although most new laptops in 2022 at $700 are starting to catch up by providing 100% srgb, and some like asus even provide DCI-P3 on some of their OLED vivobook models.
it's also true that apple provides matte coating options on premium glass display, but most lower end laptops have a matte plastic screen anyway. they might not feels as premium as glass, but also don't suffer from reflection quite as much.
I was pretty shocked by the iPad Pro 12.9’s speakers and each iPhone feels like it’s getting progressively better. Especially at 3d audio simulation.
Yeah, my iPad 10.2 sounds better than my Thinkpad and it doesn’t even have surround speakers
I think iPhone sounds better than most laptops, which is ridiculous
Yeah very true the iPad pros have stereo sound played quadraphonically.
@@v5k456jh3 it does sound better than a lot. The 3d audio effects really wrap around your head. No clue how they do that.
Yep my iPad pro speakers blow my zephyrus m16 speakers out the water and the m16 is one of the better windows laptops when it comes to speakers...
I loved the video Dave. Coming from a guy like me that is into tech but not knowledgeable about all the nitty gritty, this helped a lot because I’m about to buy a new MacBook and onboard sound is important to me
Last year linus took a dig on cameras in windows laptops and this year some companies worked on them. Really hope companies also listen to your video so we get better sounding laptops next year
Nobody even glanced at laptop cameras until the pandemic hit. Covid and Zoom calls are probably the biggest reasons why manufacturers implemented better cameras
Thank you for bringing this up. I recently bought a Razer Blade 15 as I had to have a Windows laptop and 5 minutes into using it I was absolutely shocked at how bad the speakers were to the point I genuinely thought they were defective (razers aren’t cheap laptops so i thought i was getting apple like quality somewhat). I have been a Macbook user for a number of years now and I must have been spoilt to not even notice how much of a different league apple is atm on their MBP16 especially
I think it u had a speakers defect cause i bought my razer blade 15 almost 2 years ago and they have the best speakers ever THX atmos and everyone that listens to my laptop are blow away how amazing they are
My friend bought one for it he’s a DJ and he loves it
@@DToFlyChannel copium
I was mindblowned when I switched over to a macbook for the first time. Couldn’t believe the speaker quality.
I have an iPad Pro M1. One of the first things that shocked me was the sound quality. It’s trippy, I stopped using my Bluetooth speaker plus it has a way of making the sound seem like it’s coming from right there and elsewhere. It’s hard to explain.
You run the various audio frequencies out of phase with one another so it seems the audio is coming from inside your head or beyond the boundaries of the device
Something like Dolby Atmos or any other format that uses psychoacoustics
I agree from my 2020 iPad Pro as well.
@Unknown oh so that’s what it is… cool
Heck, my late 2013 15” MBP still beat most other modern Windows laptops. I just think on board audio is further down other manufacturers requirements lists than at Apple. It’s weird.
Difference between an average tech RUclipsr and Dave2D 🔥
My 16” MBP from 2019 has better sound quality than my on the go JBL speaker. I was blown away at that moment.
when I upgraded from the 17" MBP I was totally surprised by the enhancement in sound. The stereo imaging was really good and for the first time ever I enjoyed listening to music using the laptop only.
Short answer: OEMs do not care. It’s an afterthought. Long answer: PC ecosystem is very fragmented like the Android ecosystem as many different companies, parts, drivers, etc involved. Apple owns the whole stack and spends millions on getting things like speakers ‘right’.
And frankly, I think many types of users also do not care.
I use a 2021 14" MacBook Pro for development work, but I plug it into a larger monitor, attach an ergonomic keyboard and mouse, and use headphones.
I only use the MacBook standalone under 10% of the time, only when I need it to be portable. During which I just miss my monitor, keyboard, and mouse (but its battery life is amazing, I must say)
Even if you love working in Starbucks or you're a student, are you really going to be blasting your laptop speakers in the library/classroom/café?
So are premium speakers worth it on a laptop? Only if you mostly use your laptop standalone and while you're at home. (And don't have a TV, a Hi-Fi system, or a desktop)
Your answer doesn't make sense. Owning the whole ecosystem doesn't make Apple more competitive, the opposite is actually true. The reason why Androids and Windows laptops do not have a better sound system is because there are way more consumers that value better prices than better sound. The Android and Windows market is way more competitive so if you spend more to release a laptop with better sound people might want to go for the very similar but cheaper alternatives. In the iOS / macOS world there isn't alternatives that similar so they can afford to do these things because there isn't as much competition. This is also the reason why everything comes first in Android. There is way more pressure to differentiate from competition in the Android space so manufacturers are always coming up with new things to get the edge.
@@Tetex this answer is not true at all, importance of components in devices is chosen by manufacturers and Human background. No one cares what the customer wants OEM’s want what they can sell you most effectively.
Low price doesn’t equal necessity for bad sound and low manufacturing quality
The main reason is human background has always drove the pc market through chip manufacturers and specifications because that is the marketing way of selling Windows Laptops and has been for years.
Market being competitive doesn’t change the fact that competitiveness in wrong areas stomps the progress of the segment in the future that is why companies always eventually end up following Apples footsteps in certain areas.
The reason why IOS devices don’t come up with inventive new hardware is not even close because of “non competitive Market” but is simply because Apple isn’t hardware component company, they don’t create components and their main focus isn’t hardware but is and has been for year Fanbased ecosystem for longevity of customers.
If you make devices for milions you can’t put in the newest technologies because of supply issues, quality check issues etc… it has literally nothing to do with market not pressuring Apple.
OEMs can order speakers and assemblies in any way that they please. Might be a cost-cutting issue
@@Tetex You're right - Apple isn't competitive because they have the competition beat by such a large margin that it's not even funny at this point. It's not really a competition at this point. Microsoft is scrambling to catch up by mimicking MacOS in their Windows 11 release, Surfacebook Pros look like Macbook Pro ripoffs, and not once have I seen people lined up outside of stores to buy the latest Acer or MSI gaming laptop yet people still scramble to buy the latest releases from Apple. What you fail to realize is that Apple is competing with all of the Windows OEMs and so their "walled garden" approach is what makes them stand out and makes them, by far, the strongest brand in the personal computing space.
The Pro Q visualization with the music was so good!!
Dave, You have gone to be the upper echelon of tech reviews expecially when it comes to laptops.
You discuss things that other techtubers wouldn't normally discuss and I'm all here for it.
I’ve had my 2019 15” MBP since launch and I’m still impressed with the speakers every time I use them. Incredibly deep, full, and rich sound out a laptop. I genuinely think they sound better than my HomePod minis (not as loud but a fuller sound.)
Finally someone talked about this in detail. Thank you. Watching is movies on a Macbook Pro 16 inch is such an amazing experience. Sometimes I forget that the sound is coming from a laptop. Action and horror movies sound like a mini cinema.
I’m convinced there is a very specific reason why manufacturers of windows laptops don’t care about it: it’s difficult to put it in numbers and advertise it.
Windows manufacturers have a lot of competition and people who buy these usually compare specs.
Improving the speaker system, which you can’t put in a spec sheet won’t give you an edge in selling.
I was an apple hater most of my life, because I was comparing specs and didn’t understand why people would by apple products which worse specs but higher price.
The M1 MacBook Air was my first Mac and I realized how many things in there are amazing, that I never cared about because there weren’t on any spec sheet: keyboard, screen, trackpad, speakers… but all these significantly improve user experience. So apple really tries to make the best product, not the products that can be advertised best. And I believe that’s why many people hate apple, because when you never experienced it, it seems grossly overpriced.
I know how people who avoid apple choose their products, no one will put speakers into consideration because you can’t really compare them on paper. Hence, there is no reason for manufacturers to improve them.
Bingo. As someone said it above, Windows laptops are a commodity item, and Apple devices are not. And as I said before on another comment, when you're a company trying to kit out your employees with a device, you'll go with good user experience 99% of the time. All Apple needs to do is be competitive, because no amount of performance gain (measured in minutes/seconds) will ever make up for the hours of extra employee productivity you get when you give them something that's light, with a great keyboard, trackpad, speakers, battery life, and screen. When something feels great to use, people use it more. When your engineers are paid $80/hr, an extra half-hour they might stay logged in to watch a RUclips video with a coworker a good screen and great speakers, you're already up $80 on your purchase.
We don't like apple because it's an overpriced piece of technology that used shady marketing techniques by a ruthless CEO.
And yes I've used macs, they are decent.
Those who shell out 2.5k on a master race PC are just as dumb, btw.
Same here, the quality of life on Macbooks are amazing compared to Windows laptops. I'm a first-time Mac user too and I have an amazing experience with it so far.
"And I believe that’s why many people hate apple, because when you never experienced it, it seems grossly overpriced." Hard agree. I had to use a coworker's Macbook for a couple of days and while it did take me a while to get used to it, the platform quickly grew on me.
That said, the 'cost of living' in MacOS is higher too, if you aren't looking at the right waves 🏴☠, so I bought many of the apps I'd get on Windows for free (granted, most of them are good).
Disagree. you can put a number. The frequency response, there are lot of audio nerds out their who would go crazy for frequency response numbers. Don't believe me? head on the headphone review youtube...
@@arunashamal the truth is that when people are buying laptops the last thing they are gonna check is how good the audio sounds people just want to hear the words "dolby atmos". dolby atmos means nothing literally everything says dolby atmos these days. (at this rate, in five years children toys will start saying dolby atmos lol) the same goes for andriods they will advertise 5000mah batteries, 120hz screens, and etc. Apple does less hardware stuff and more software stuff and you can't describe software quality of life features in quantitative conclusions.
Apple has also been investing heavily into audio the last few years. As someone in music production they've pushed heavily into spacial audio and incorporating that into their own programs like Logic Pro for creators as well as introducing it to Apple Music for customers. They want to be the kings at directional audio and making it easier to create and listen to spacial songs on Apple hardware.
Can't wait to try out vision pro, this is probably the most advanced wearable ever
you should have tested the surface laptop studio too.
the surface's speakers DEMOLISHED the xps 15's speakers in LTT's video
The audio drivers were broken it was later said in another video
still shit compared to macbooks
Apple has audio engineers and full control over their hardware. My guess would be that most pc laptop makers aren't as vertically integrated when it comes to the engineering resources available.
PC Manufacturers simply place and route reference designs provided by their suppliers such as Intel, NVidia, Analog Devices, etc. into their PCBs. Apple, on the other hand, will source highly configured and internally designed parts for their machines. The Wintel platform is simply more profitable for manufacturers because most of the components are stock. The cost of R&D is spread across all the manufactures, allowing them to make a significantly larger profit.
Bull****. By that logic, all Bluetooth/RF speakers must be horrible sounding. It's purely done to save costs as companies have realised Laptop and TV buyers don't pay much attention to audio before purchase.
Cost might be the reason. I can get 2 Gaming Laptops in cost of 1 Macbook in India
@@m4xxxxxxxx-d7i More shit is still shit. Quality over quantity.
They got a lot of tech form the purchase of Beats
Never knew you can simplify sound frequencies to understand that easy... loved it
It's funny how Dave2D taught me how those audio frequencies work better than every other audiophile RUclipsr.
This some what TRUE ?! Better than anyone audiophile in youtube hahaha
I had the privilege of meeting a senior Apple engineer who headed speaker manufacturing in Taiwan. Humble guy and all he could tell me is that they have a Moto of “making products that they can be proud of”. When it comes to speakers on these devices, they certainly deserve that accolade.
This is one of the things that make MacBooks feel like more of a complete package when purchasing laptops: the audio experience out of the box (mic, speaker, headphone output) is always good enough for most use cases. Of all the windows laptops I've purchased, some had ok speakers and some had ok headphone outputs, but there was always something lacking in audio that I needed to make up for with extra speakers/dac amp purchases. It just feels like someone at Apple actually cares about what I hear when I use my laptop.
I feel like most of these companies are thinking if we just put a powerful gpu in gamers will buy it. If we just put an amazing OLED screen with a fast cpu and creators will buy it. Then right before they finalize the design they go ohh we need speakers just as a fallback layer for when they don’t use headphones and grab random off the shelf components without tuning the speakers or designing the chassis to actually create the best sound.
Yeah that's pretty much my takeaway as well. That's essentially what Windows laptop users i've known have all felt or said. Things like the speakers or the track pads don't have to be good because they're using their own peripherals anyway. "Just give me CPU/GPU/RAM power, a good screen, and a nice keyboard. I'll bring the rest".
such a shame how many corners these windows laptops cut. now the only thing I want to see on my MacBook now is some gaming support. perfect laptop in every other aspect
Windows laptop buyers just don't care that much to be honest, especially gaming laptop buyers. And the funniest part is that they kept complaining about how expensive Apple products are and complete ignore these small but important aspects that an average laptop user actually needs. What they care is just specs like CPU RAM GPU and SSD, not even display since most of them would just hook up their own monitors anyway.
@@VMYeahVN also applies to batteries on them too, apple put on the 16 inch MacBook Pro the biggest battery cell you can legally put on an aircraft, meanwhile on most high performance windows laptops, about 4ish hours on a charge with reduced performance, not to mention the amount of wasted space you see on them around the battery area
@@GlaciaDay the average laptop user is getting $500 laptops.... let alone they are not getting all their media from a laptop but from their phone...
Interested in how the surface books would stack up, the front firing speakers seem pretty cool.
Ngl my iPhone speakers sounds better than my gf’s surfacebook
I have one. They are alright but it doesn't get very loud.
I have Surface Book, they do sound good but never had a chance to compare it side by side with MacBooks. But MacBooks just sounds still better if I remember, but that was a limited test on mine since I didn't own it that time.
The question is how the Surface Laptop Studio stacks up. Surface Book line now is being replaced by Laptop Studio and it has a different design.
hhhmmm.... Make me wonder why Dave2D haven't though about this? Is it maybe those he mentioned was already some of the best Windows laptops could offer in terms of speaker performance?
*coughs
Depends. By themselves they're OK. Compared with the macbooks they're crappy as well
Believe it or not, the speakers are so good in some ways, there were couple of times I actually didn't mind playing music directly from the MBP 16" without extended speakers.
Mind boggling really.
Dell XPS L502X was probably the only laptop I can think of that was able to come really really close to Apple and probably beat Apple in those low and high frequency ranges. It had some quality woofers and sound profile.
I just wanted to share my experience. With my gf we wanted to watch a movie that is not in netflix / amazon / disney so I "purchased" it and connected the MBP14 (m1 pro) to the TV via HDMI. We watched all the movie and in the credits when I approached to unplug the HDMI cable I just figured out the sound came from the MBP, not the soundbar... that's the quality and volume that they have accomplished.
Yea, no. I work with a brand new M1 MBP and the audio is fine for what it is (a portable laptop), but I would definitely notice the difference between these and a semi-decent pair of speakers. You might want to upgrade your soundbar.
@@gilfhunter42069 Or better yet sell the soundbar and buy some quality 7.1 surround sound speakers with ceiling mounts for a Dolby ATMOS setup, that'll knock your socks off.
@@gnaved If price doesn't matter, what brand do you recommend for a soundbar and what brand do you recommend for a proper Atmos setup??
@@PSYCHOV3N0M im not sure about specifics, but try looking into Linus Tech Tips they have quality reviews in the home upgrade series about soundbars & home theatre audio
Bro called me poor and single in 10 languages
I just recently switched from the M1 MacBook Air to the 14 in MacBook Pro and at first I thought the speakers would sound the same or maybe slightly better, but I was blown completely away. It's night and day. I don't know how apple does it but they completely dominated with the sound system on the MacBook Pro. It's so good it's like it's not even a laptop speaker system.
Nice take! Well done 👍
I would add, a laptop’s enclosure contributes to the quality of respective sound profiles.
The MBP’s essentially sealed, encapsulating more of the spectrum, directing essential sound upward with the more tactile vibes going down and through one’s desktop or body.
Most PC laptops I’ve ever handled are basically rather loose layers of plastic clipped or welded together.
Aside from enclosures, Apple seems to have invested significantly more into special processing which further enhance any shortcomings of micro driver arrays in such tight spaces - providing the listener a truly impressive audio experience.
I would love to have seen a Surface device compared, Microsoft has the world's quietest room and the speakers are a selling point of Surface.
this is by far my favourite video on your channel. well details and very well researched. loved it
Great video! I'd happily watch a follow up, comparing these with cheap external speakers
Somebody once told me, in the past, don't remember exactly who: "You want a great sound experience, out of anything you're using? Use headphones" and, to be fair, it's clear that kind of hardware is improving - at least, trying to - time after time but nothing compared to dedicated, well balanced and tuned drivers aimed right at your greasy ears.
Still, the software thing where you select the frequency range was pretty cool.
I could watch that moving frequency response graph for hours it’s mesmerizing
Would love to know more about the internal details of Apple/Windows speakers.
Windows laptops use lower quality speakers generally, the speakers are also underpowered where apple I'm sure had a powerful amp and dac, also windows drivers ...
@@BrandonTobiasKingT Back this by data and measurements, show internals, and you have yourself a video!
@@DaniilVodopian lol we have evidence of this driving teardowns of apple stuff and most high end windows pc's but your are right
me too. I think i know how they do it, but it will be nice to see the cold hard science of their audio solutions. Driver and enclosure parameters, amplifier power, dsp details....
@@BrandonTobiasKingT That isn't true across the board. My ASUS laptop has great speakers! I customized the EQ in settings to my taste and they sound great, with lots of bottom end (not quite as much as the 22w JBL/ Harman Kardon speakers on my 2011 Dell XPS lol. That thing sounded like an actual Bluetooth speaker, not just bassy and loud, but big sound stage. I mean, the drivers they were using, were from some of their Bluetooth speakers.
Back to my ASUS. It has 2 woofers and 2 tweeters. The two woofers are reasonably sized and have 2x 4w RMS smart amps that safely drives them to their utmost ability (same as what the better phone speakers out there use).
I'll let you in on a little secret Mr Dave, Apple spends more on r&d than some companies are worth.
Are you okay Dave? Where are you?
I too was surprised when hearing speakers from apple products (macbook/ipad/iphone) for the first time, the presence and depth of the sound they produce is surprisingly big, coming out from such a thin and light device
it’s not just macbooks, even my ipad mini speakers still sound great up to this day
Actually I am here for your evolution into a DJ, because that fade at @1:20 was freaking dope.
I recently bought my first Macbook (MBP 16" 2021) and, even though I heard about it on every YT video, the one thing I was not expecting to be this good was the speakers! Every person I tell my opinion of the Macbook to, I first mention the speakers! They are straight up amazing!
I hade 2011 mac and the speakers where the beat out of every laptop I had. I was blown away.
The iPad Pro speaker system also blows me away. I don’t know how Apple does it.
the fact that you can get away with producing music with just the speakers on these macbooks is incredible
You can't
It’s crazy. And I imagine a serious workflow pull for many Windows-only creatives.
@@IridiumZero Yes, you can. I have a studio set up with two 8" JBL 308Ps. I'm not stressed at all with the new MBP if I want to produce or demo a track for someone away from the desk. I'm not even letting them off easy, I make pop, dubstep, and drum and bass. Hell I've done rough mixes on the laptop speakers alone and been fairly happy coming back to the studio.
@@samantony4423 808s sounds dog on them
@@lightichigo makes sense. Those speakers are still pretty small, if you want bass to sound big, you need much bigger speakers.
Ur comparison techniques just blow my mind...
I always wondered this too, its so strange no windows laptop even comes close while apple has being doing it for years. Even my ipad pro with its tiny speakers sounds way better than my windows laptop.
waiting for a new video
Thank you for addressing this issue
I noticed this as well. My M1 MacBook Air has impressive sound considering the physical dimensions of the device. Thanks for posting this video as I've always wanted to do a comparison between MacBook vs Windows laptops regarding the speaker sound quality. There will be people who will choose a Mac over anything else just because of this.
@@sumit3416 better than my speakers too lol
Great video, no one really talks about the speaker deficiency issues with mostly ALL window laptops. Why I appreciate my g15 so much
I have been wondering this for so long lol. When I used a 2019 Macbook Pro for the first time I was impressed with how they weren't much louder than my 27" iMac, but when I watched a dolby atmos video demonstration on youtube, I could hear stuff behind me without haing surround sound speakers and that along with how good the bass is on such a small product is impressive asf and is part of the reason why I got the 2021 Macbook when it was time to upgrade and went with the 16" over the 14".
My theory is that the heavy aluminum Mac shell is there for a reason like the speakers. I have thin and lights that harmonic with the shell on certain high frequencies
Pretty convincing theory.
@@koushikroy6259 I recently got my hands on dell xps 9520, which has fantastic speakers better than most windows laptop, xps is inevitably super heavy over 2KG. So heavy equal to better sounds quality potential seems to play out. Apple cannot make super “Air” laptops and reduced speaker setup in macbook airs seems to confirms as well.
You should also measure the impulse response, which is a frequency response that also indicates resonances(which you would ideally want to avoid). It sounds to me, the impulse response is way better for the mac, at least for the mids and highs.
imagine being a windows engineer and hearing 4:15
"it is mind-boggling they cant make it better, and as a windows laptop enthusiast, its almost embarrassing that the gap is so big"
Love this kind of review. I could tell the difference from the speakers in my iPhone. It is crazy how far ahead Apple is… and how long they have been ahead
This is the video that I was waiting for for so long. I always wondered how come a speaker in a small 6-inch phone of mine can sound better than two speakers in my 15.6 inches HP laptop? Also, the cost of the phone in my case is half of the price of my laptop and yet the speakers in the laptop are so bad that I seldom use them. I always use my earphones with my laptop. But even in this video, Dave could not explain what is the reason that windows laptop speakers suck so much?
It's not Microsoft Windows' fault. The laptop hardware vendors are building crappy audio drivers. Microsoft only certifies the drivers as working/stable but the quality of work is all on audio driver programmers (laptop vendor side).
Saw this guy just now in my neighborhood. Nice to meet you Dave.
Apple has the resources to hire the best engineers there are. Most mind boggling are the iPad Pro speakers...
brooooo lmao the iPad Pro 12" speakers are better than most windows laptops 🤣 its insane. it blows my mind
I have a 13” MacBook Pro and an 11” iPad Pro both from 2020. The iPad blows the MacBook out of the water. It’s nuts.
@Maurice Faye The speakers are only half the story. The housing and how to drive the speakers is the other.......
The iPad speakers are way worse than the Samsung tablets. Check them out if you ever get the chance
@Maurice Faye likewise was replying to the original comment. The Samsung speakers are way better than the iPad yet don't get the same amount of credit,
Very interesting video! I think the reason might be that PC manufacturers know that people who care about sound will use external speakers or headphones, while Apple want to always deliver the best and they charge a premium for it.
I love externals but no, that's not it... I use my BD 770pro headphones all the time and honestly my 14" mcbp drwarfs the headpones. Apple is the by far the best when it comes to audio
One of the best sound analysis videos I have seen
One suggestion I have is to install FxSound. It does dramatically improve audio quality in a whole lot of cases.
Thanks for the suggestion, I did install it and I was shocked for how much better my Laptop sounds. I did nothing more than installing this tiny software, it's amazing how much better it works now.
Thanks I will check it out 👍
Great video brother! I’ve been an acoustical engineer for nearly 20 years and I think you did a good job with this. The next step towards understanding exceptional audio is to talk about phase, which is the relative time delay between the various frequencies. Apple also does a great job making sure that the high frequencies arrive slightly ahead of the low frequencies, which results in clearer, punchier audio. Cheers!
A speaker should be made as close to linear in phase as possible throughout the frequency response (turning electrical signal into pressure wave signal), any low/mids/highs phase differences for clarity should be made at the mixing process when creating music etc. Combining multiple speakers (like in a laptop, stereos, home theater etc) should be made with care to ensure that they are in phase with each other or you get those clarity issues. But talking about phase and clarity gets really fast into the circle of confusion.
@@anomuumit exactly! I was just trying to keep it simple 😊
@@robocobrabot "Apple - - making sure - - the high frequencies arrive slightly ahead of the low frequencies - -" That sentence structure caught my eye because it easily gives the impression that a speaker should be designed as an out of phase device (highs before lows).
@@anomuumit yep, I understand, and I think it may be true. Both iMacs I have owned place the high frequency driver ahead of the low frequency driver. Still, this is better than doing things the other way around.
That comparison, has blown my mind!
It would be interesting to try booting up a live linux distro on the MBP and playing the same audio to compare to native macOS to see if they are using some DSP correction.
Awesome video and really representative of what i've experienced with my Windows laptops vs the Macbooks i've owned.
So very true! I have been a Windows laptop user for 15 years and just purchased a M1 MacBook Air a year ago and have been stunned by its audio quality as well as battery life. The only downside is that the Air without a fan has meant that I listen to less music since I don't have to drown out fan noise.🙃
@@rabailey65 Lmao I have an MBA M1 as well and it's amazing that a laptop can be this powerful and have this great speakers, keyboard, trackpad, and screen and be so thin with no fan. It's literally the perfect laptop right now as I really don't have any complaints about it.
Music on MacBook speakers is a joy to listen to. Its surprising how much detail is present on a small speaker setup.